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Well
Hog Zarya into Ana with any other sniper sucks ass
Dva at least can eat nades or pressure snipers
actually recently we've been seeing reaper in dive comps
probs for just negating teams from picking hog and dueling hog if hes played
You watching NA?
kr
It’s in Korea too?
yes
I thought reaper was just NA lol
I see no world where reaper is good on this patch even just snipers roll him
well hes being played
and actually the spark played reaper dive way before the playoff patch
and rolled
That was double shield doe
if reaper is being played in some maps, then theres obvious something reaper does thats appealing
I think tomorrow
Glads will play Dive with Tracer Widow and show that comp is superior
If I see OGE on hog I guess I have to admit that hog comps are superior
i dont think there is a hard meta this time
too early
in t2 we saw a lot variations of the same comp
We’ve also been watching shit teams play
i dont called KR contenders shit at all
oh the bottom 5?
yea they run hog non stop
since they probs knew they couldnt run a dive effectively
but from what we heard the primary comp is dive, and the dps lineup changes a lot
depending on the map
on control maps or maps that have massive highground advantage u see reaper
I just figured reaper would be popular on most control maps due to short sight lines and Rein Sig being more common and reaper fits that rush play style really well
Although that makes me wonder why McCree wouldn’t be played Bc I assume it’s Reaper Mei?
sigma is dead
Okay that’s weird
his peal is now crap and does very little against a dive now
So it’s Rein Dva then?
yea
Are teams doing Bap Lucio or picking Ana for fear of hog?
ana/moria
im referring to KR contenders
That would be the map that como should be good for
but dva just protects teammates better than sigma
I still find it hard to believe that sigma is getting little play
Then again that matrix buff a while ago was massive
Just no one thought about it because sigma was busted
Matrix has no counterplay rn other than demech the dva
It’s uptime is insane
If the dva wants to eat your ult she will
Moira Lucio dive sucks
not if u have reaper
I still don’t know why reaper is played my brain doesn’t comprehend it
think of it like sombra before DS was shit
she negated DS by existing
and if they switched off DS then sombra would still be fine either way
well he makes winston life hell
So does Ashe
Then again control maps have super short sight lines and they promote snowballs heroes which reaper is one
But McCree and Ashe and Tracer and Sombra and Widow are just better picks
mcree in brawl but thats still niche
u can stll run dive on control
I guess it depends what control
but it may be that apac prefers reaper heavily more in dive than NA
if asian contenders is anything to go by
I guess
I understand dive being played but reaper is so shit which is why I’m confused about him
well im gonna assume in KR they like playing faster dives
so no snipers
and if you play lucio+moria then u just rush them and brawl with reaper
Hmmm so it’s just Korea liking fast play
Not reaper being good
Korea just has a different style
yes
yes
he was played a lot
and houston lost to boston because they can't read a meta apparently
and jerry went off
HYDRATION
what the fuck
some are speculating that it was because the bad teams were playing
and that the higher tiers will be more divey
hog is good but i didnt think he would be played in pro play
Apparently a couple of pro players think it won’t be kbbq meta
Or watever name hog/zarya is
was being called zog
Shock will prob want to run dive with smurf
u mean everyone not bottom tier will run dive
Fusion can do watever the fuck they want, with Sado Fury and Poko
I would love to see NYXL Hogba and Bianca Zarya
fusion is homelander
boston won against houston 3-1
washington won against vancouver 3-0 with decay on zarya
pepega teams apparently run double OT as a crutch (scrimbux) while higher teams run the chengdu dive style w/ sombra probably (speculation)
Can't wait for half of the remaining perfect brackets to get destroyed tonight because of the APAC results.
A majority of the remaining ones are like... Boston going all the way to the end ones too, so...
viewership was really good last night too, 50k viewers for play-ins
A majority of the remaining ones are like... Boston going all the way to the end ones too, so...
@upper niche i doubt there would be a perfect bracket, especially with all the crack that apac is on when theres a new meta
Yeah I think they're looking good for keeping their $100k.
wonder how many ppl watched 2 watch and how many just put it on for points
i watched it to watch
i think a lot of ppl did cuz the chat was p active
i cant say for sure tho
chat will always look active cuz ppl spam shit
youtube doesnt earn you points though, only on the website + owl app which doesnt add to the yt viewer count
Every team in OWL has won at least 1 playoff match.
...
Except the Houston Outlaws
they 100% need a new coach and some player rebuilds
keep danteh linkzr meko and rapel as a core and build off that
would be a stable middle tier team
The Boston Uprising officially have 2/3 of their total season wins from the Houston Outlaws
1360
I've been wanting to watch overwatch esports for a while. I downloaded the app and it looks like they've already played a bunch of games. I was wondering if its a bad time to get into watching it or if its been jumping in rn
After looking through the app for a bit, I'm really confused as to how it works and whats going on rn lol
@rich bear you're looking for #lf-players-na there's also r/OverwatchLFT and ELOHell I've heard is good if you want to scout more teams and players
this is serious discussion about OW League, contenders and live discussion when it's on
uggh why am i staying awake for this
thanks boston for fucking up my bracket XD
^
@dry mesa thanks for coming back i guess
What
did you die with the regular season last time you posted in esports
i've watched every game
just don't post here a lot
such a weird thing to say, kinda creepy
is yall's website working?
it wont show me the match
Might be your connection, its working fine for me
can you see the live? i've refreshed it so many times and it says the match is live
its working fine on yt
Lmao, soon as i said that my Wi-Fi died
It was lol
was monkey ulting?
what match is it today
london vs chengdu
The rez saved them :(
oh shit
yveltal's mercy is actually nuts
It is
so many clutch res
Website is being complete ass rn
^
pharmercy on king's row - not sure if that'll work
ashe and mercy?
Choi has a solid hog but idk who would play zarya instead of him
???
LOL
what a c9
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
AMENG
I could not be more WOKE
4:09
Choi has a solid hog but idk who would play zarya instead of him
@feral zodiac smurf
rip shock
smurf has a good zarya tho
nah choi zarya, super/smurf hog
@woven badge
That was the best C9 Ive ever seen
:sadpeepo:
screenshots that precede an epic overwatch league moment
Brbr
why does that c9 scream 'self-inflicted wound x 100' ?
xD
its smooth wdym
anyone have player cams during c9
does the stream look so laggy or is it just me
you're obviously watching the inferior stream
does the stream look so laggy or is it just me
@karmic grotto same here
chinese stream pogU
bm
C9c9c9c9c9c9 by sleep ball
all i know is pain
So
I dolnt see ny winning finals but if this ball comp is good I see ny doing amazing
interesting substitutions from chengdu
obi in the future lol
shusshss
China is just better
nah UK'
I am gonna go to sleep
speaking of which
And then wake up
And hopefully see that boston 3-0 ATL
UK casting 
when
And hopefully see that boston 3-0 ATL
@hot heart hell ye
when did i ask?
doesn't work there
shush
Im so stupid for forgetting apac game is now when im awake at 3am with withdrawals killing me and in need of distraction
Big fucking brain on me dude
hog and ball, here we go
isn't he supposed to be the best ball in the league
why tf is he playing so bad lmao
I don't think ball was the right the pick at all for this meta
I really like how apac teams are not afraid to run different strats out of the meta
rip spitfire
Hes doing fine on ball
Ah
And honestly I think he might look like the best ball
because not a lot play ball but imo0 Mano is the best ball
Watching Ameng is hilarious
rip london 
Ameng: you may be in her dms, but im in london's backline
Eh
We will see mano vs chengdu modt likely
Mano vs ameng I mean
If not the best, hes second
Yveltal massively deserved POTM
yea
WTF - not only are they not doing the opponent selections tonight but they're not even going to update the scores on the website either? holy fuck OWL are getting unprofessional.
selections for what..
who plays who tomorrow night in APAC.
tomorrow? right before the match?
No .. they'll do it today on the chinese stream
... they played 2 hours ago.
Decay and jjanu good teamwork
it finished what, 30 minutes ago?
Scores are updated for me
Is the London match not on their channel yet or am I blind?
I need to watch the last half, I had to go
@vagrant jacinth Yeah, I kinda mean in bracket builder, which is what everyone cares about at the moment.
why it doesnt pull from the same data source is a mystery.
I didn’t watch the Chengdu game but supposedly it was a little funky
Given the tweets I woke up too
Same for me haha
I don't see any APAC data being updated.
I didn’t watch the Chengdu game but supposedly it was a little funky
@tropic herald from what I did catch it was
Who do you see as the leader on https://brackets.overwatchleague.com/en-us/playoffs/leaderboard
holy fuck OWL are getting unprofessional.
@upper niche welcome to season 3 kek
they're probably delaying the witch hunt people are doing really with the perfect bracket
5.2% of fans correctly predicted Boston to win. Best of luck to all of you getting the next 31 matches correct!
1085
and within that 5.2%
they're being even more punishing with those picks
Considering 94.8% of people got boomed after one game
sometimes you keep listening to the voice of reason
I think people feel threatened or personally attacked at the thought of boston winning after looking at their most recent and past performance
nothing was ever on the record they improved so much as they knew what they were doing going into the playoffs
@sullen berry We were going through earlier trying to figure out how they got to the allocated points people are on, they don't even appear to be following their own rulebook for the competition - not that what's in the document makes any sense.
name a better tragedy than the Overwatch League
and honuring their own documentation
@sullen berry UCI 😄
Cali Irvine?
when it comes to following rules, holy fuck the UCI are a joke.
UCI - Union Cycliste Internatle. The international cycling body.
oh a cycling league
I've worked at countless National championships in various disciplines and World Cups, and holy fuck they just ignore rules any time it's convenient. Coming from motorsport where if rules aren't followed people die, it's just frustrating being involved in cycling now.
I want Glads to win babyy
I found this gem in my feed
too small
laughs in overwatch crosshair
Mano's ball is pretty stellar too
such a good costream https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h_FYKDj1yYA
I would have watched this instead were it not for the superior chinese stream
NY must feel super confident in their Dive
why is decay playing zarya and not ashe for washington?
because his zarya is insane
who else would play zarya for them?
JJanu I guess but then who plays hog
@ebon aurora JJonak / Nenne
not sure but feels weird that they hired a hitscan to play tank :D
yeah i mean clearly he is popping of on first map
are you just catching up with that match? In which case I won't spoil it
I mean stitch is also a very good hitscan
So why not have your best zarya play zarya then your great hitscan stay om hitscan
Fuel v Justice is going to be hype
I mean I don’t think Decay was signed because his Zarya its just a nice bonus
Watch justice and boston go much further than expected
boston sweeps shanghai
Chengdu is the meta
I think Wash beats Dallas pretty handily. Boston I can def see upsetting Reign
Bring back AKM Zarya 
boston sweeps shanghai
@true hound reverse sweep
Yes
Wash will spank dallas, Boston v Atlanta could either way which I didn't think I'd say
Myunbang your mom
I still got reign over Boston but new meta anything could happen baby
London will be alot stronger next year
its ok
we started to play worse when aWesomeGuy left
Ye, I'm looking forward to it
boston 3-0 shock when
Season one stage 3
Winston was only played on control
Hog zarya a lot for London
well, they played winston (chengdu) on volskaya
it didn't work
for Chengdu, they did a lot of ball (unsuprising) and zarya/roadhog
151 perfect brackets left
what part are you on rn?
good so you saw the ||hamster C9||
ok that was a sus c9
lol
yeah
god
that was so sad
molly's expression was like the definition of pepelaugh
Clestyn was in the range to hook Ameng D:
maybe was on cd
I mean
dragons reaching the finals is like lowkey 100% probability
unless hog meta just fucks them over
but I wouldn't be surprised if they are like uh no fuck you we're just gonna play dive
Yeah. This does seem like one of the few metas where they're not gonna be a completely dominant force. This relies a lot more on Lip imo
well
Im scared for my Gz bois a little. Nero will probably sub in to play Hog but I've heard their comms and only Rio and Eileen have consistently kept up with English callouts throughout recent games
then again
titans tried saying "fuck u we're running dive"
and got absolutely shit on
You’re comparing titans to shanghai
There is a difference between SHD and Titans though.. just a small one
it's only the best dive team in the league with the best sombra in the league wym
not that big of a difference
ofc
ik
they're basically the same

Shanghai could've beate
they're still a team with incredible players
dw.. i can;t type
Yeah true. They were playing a Decay Zarya and a Washington with Roar on the bench
The titans are simply not as good as Shanghai
True
Stitch was also feeling it yesterday
but the thing is right
with every pro sport or esport
if you are in the league
you are considered the best of the best
true
regardless of how you preform
But the thing is
wrong
In any pro sport or esport
some Kr Contenders teams would beat Titans now.. and by some I mean quite a few
true
@next mesa even when shred lock looks good and it's only when he ults, they still drop the map
Teams can be far worse than others in the same league
also true
Shockwave difference
lowkey shockwave is the only one winning them games
He can't carry with the team the way it is
the team as a whole can be bad and still have amazing talent on the roster
Shockwave to me is like the KSP of Titans but he's not as good
mm
and i feel like that was kinda the case with certain areas of boston
Dallas vs Decay later o.o
like dont get me wrong
Halo is just yikes
if they had coaching staff 100
Everything went wrong, even when it would sync up against Gladiators that one time
i still dont think they would be a top 4
Outlaws strategy staff are pogchamp
but i think they could get 5 seed or 6 seed
Boston could never be above mid table with their current roster
He's not the biggest disappointment, but one of many this season
No matter how good or bad their coaching is
decay will make dallas their bitch
"part ways" with me try to part this 14 inch monster zarya peen
I'm more upset that SMS hasn't found a team, and neither has Miro who went LFT in the past couple months
Was sms looking for a team
Waiting on the big bang Spark energy against Seoul
I thought he was taking this season off
ok ok ok
The brackets have been revealed for Day 2 APAC
who does everyone think is playing in grand finals for na
aka which two teams
He can stay in OWC Korea
Shock fusion
Fusion and then shock
Im hoping for a Charge Shanghai grand final Charge 4-2 Shanghai
Maybe Paris if genji comes back
I refuse to convince myself Seoul has what it takes for the fourth time
If shock actually show up philly will lose
Fusion is goated no contest
my brain just went off
carpe is going to THRIVE in this meta
where snipers run free and the only sheild is zarya bubble?
ProFITS (profit + fits) gesture toby and bdosin are changgoon's untameable children
this is where i think we will see peak carpe
YES
HE WAS THE REASON Y I STARTED PLAYING OW
im trying to beckme fleta
You don't have to turn him into anything
like he has been playing pharah, widow, ashe
genji
because fits is stuck on sombra
fits has good sombra btw but like
He could care less if he was put on Zarya duty for control or if he pops off on his comfort picks
fits usually their hitscan
Profit is a very flexible player tho
they should let illicit handle projectile tbh
Fits sombra is too unsafe
but like
I understand the decision
in having profit in the lineup no matter what
I mean bruh
he's profit
Yes

Totally
They've only ever shown him do a poor job than all other sombra that's not jinmu or glister
like i have been playing ow for a while and i consider myself a pretty good flex support, playing the most ana followed by moira then lucio,
but even then i still for some reason cant get good at bap
Profits one of the few carry factors of dynasty
I just hope toyou can change things up
ok 1 thing i will say abt seoul
seoul does not have good record against spark though
facts
Makes the defiant skins look subpar
^
And they do the red and black really well
even their away skins dont miss
ikr ikr
Do you think it’s better than London skins
yes
I hate the green on Seoul skins. Same with yellow skins. It just ruins them
Much prefer bluer skins or skins like Shanghai and toronto
Even shanghai yellow bits r a bit dirty tho
there is no green doe
wut
I always thought the gold was green.. o well
I thought the tiger was orange kek. I just assumed it was bcos Tigers generally are orange
lol
ngl it still looks green to me
that';s weird. normally after hearing the colour I see it but nah.. im jsut braindead
When you really wanna make sure hog dead
lateyoung
kinda godly ngl
hunters is a dark horse
I think if nyxl sweep them, nyxl will make it to the finals instead of charge
I think chengdu will take them
Clestyn looked good on hog I think
Glister was going off too
I will struggle to carry on watching OWL if Charge lose to NYXL
NYXL fans are too annoying
idk ameng ball is nasty but mano ball aint too far off either
From my experience they are yeah
true. But Yveltal> Anamo 😎
Yveltal is sick
His rezzes mid fight may be punished by better teams but still
I think nyxl is a more stacked team overall though
if they figure out how to balance between jjonak and haksal
They pretty inconsistent tho, depends which nyxl turns up
I think lately they have been doing a lot better
solidified themselves as second best apac team
Still funny how we went from double shield to no shield meta
at least from the teams we seen so far
are nyxl gonna run hotba bianca then?
I would love the return of Hogba
I want chengdu and shanghai to be top 2
idk how charge will do in this meta
I asked Nero on twitter how Gz were in scrims and he didn't tell me :(
I think Charge have good teamwork and coordination as one of their main points and this meta is less of that and more individual plays. (Ofc Happy and Shu etc are beasts but the meta gz were best in was a lot to do with coordinating halts, rocks, blades etc)
Happy is best on stage i think. He turns tf up
He was at his prime stage 4 last season I think and he said on their YT that he feels amazing when on stage. He's still been dirty this season tho.
thoughts on frankie?
Good, not as good as soe though
Well Frankie came from CSGO, Soe at least have a few years in OWL/OWWC
She isnt bad for me
im just going to make a bold prediction. charge will lose to new york and then lose to hangzhou in losers
i just have a weird feeling
yes
I think if dive still is played then Shanghai NY surely win APAC
I think shnaghai wins no matter whats
Ik its boring butt hats just how far ahead they are
On and expect DDing to be released in the offseason
Prolly diem too
can you not?
I think Diem is insane but I really doubt Shanghai keeps him he could go to another team and get playtime there and bring the other team up
Also
Glads 3 - 0 Defiant
Uprising 2 - 3 Reign
Justice 3 - 1 Fuel
I pretend I did not see it
shang9 lul
God yveltal’s mercy
toronto 3-2 boston 3-2 Justice 3-0
Putting my trust in toronto
Prolly shouldnt
But oh well

holy shit myunbong 😂
Agilities Hog sweeeet
I am pretty they going put him at tank
like they did with Decay yesterday
who pop off
Zargilities
I have found out that the OWL has to be the active window for tokens
Because I only got 5 yesterday

Rip me then
I’m gonna leave it open on my phone now lol
Why people saying moth is nervous?
hes nervous
True
It's from one of the comms check videos
Ty
all they did was bring up every moment shock asked if moth was nervous
probably better with audio
My stream hella lagging
that head is just perfectly round
The eggman
Agilities hog, lets go
hmm so basically all the teams with a shitty MT are taking them out
unless they are handcuffed like BOS/VAN
No?
DPS players probably play more hog for past 3 years as he was more dps than tank lol
Its not because of bad mts, just hog is op rn
NO BIRDRING?!
honestly
OGE hog 🙂
Traditionally, before Role-lock and into the first two years of Overwatch, DPS players were the ones on Hog.
It's control, might be playing something weird
just to fuck the brackets
regardless most of the lower tier teams have bad MTs
No Kevster picture lol
F
kevster agro
Gladiators and players going missing for playoffs. Nothing new 😄
@weak bolt Fissure flashbacks
toronto 3-2 i predict
For real
I just actually want my tokens
Kariv on Ana could actually be so clutch
This actually hurts Glads so much
I was jyped
Well we will see what happens
Poor S4 sadge
i'm saying its toronto 3-1
Forcing Mirror back on DPS when they could run Mirror/Space Hog/Zarya
he farms on stream harder than anyone ive ever seen
AYO
i think toronto will win if birdring doesnt play
I say boston 3-2 toronto 3-2 washington 3-0
mirror play a good zarya
DIVE
I haven’t heard that name in a long time...
Lucio 
hard to gauge since its control, but if glads play dive on the other maps, rumors prob true the higher level teams are just running more dive
thats the thing tho
i've looked at fusions and eternals lineups
tbh
i think they'll run the meta
Fusion would fuck in this meta
shock could run meta if they play super on hog
Problem is we don't know what the meta is with the good teams
We are seeing the bad team meta
Choi zarya is poop
i was watching about 4 and a half hours worth of him playing hog yesterday
it was pretty good
i saw some things that could be better
Choi hog is op
but he might be the second best hog on the shock team right now
yeah
choi def will start hog
BTW
Smurf has a nice Zarya
Shanghai have geguri
glads???
The only female player in olw and shes a god hog/dva
the only thing is
emp barrage
if the lower teams play hog zarya or hog dva
and the higher teams run dive
it could be a problem
because hog wins against a winston or d.va every single time
in 1v1's
the only way dive works is with extreme communication
but then again
these are the top teams of pro
so maybe they can pull it off
agilties
Damn agilites
Im tellin u
Mirror got 12% in 20 seconds
Pog Agilities
good first round played by both teams
Kariv and Agilities could carry this hard
zykk doin well too suprisingly
Shaz doesn't look great on Moira
LET THE POINT GO
ye why are they even playing moira
Rein.....
NEVIX REIN?
Rein Hog 
Nevix needs new sneakers

?????????????/
Got to hit those 5 man shatters
Bruh im not even a shock fan but choi is literally gonna play farming simulator 2021
he needs to cover his feetsies
that was such a fast pulse
why is toronto playing in wrong meta
no clue LOL
rein isn't BAD
is hitscan nerf not live in owl
then why they on rein
?
point presence?
KEVSTER
theyre up one they shouldnt int
GOD DAMN
Cuz they dont have ana
maybe it worked in scrims and they didn't expect the dive
point presence with rein in this meta?
they just look arrogant and won't swap
its cuz they have hog mcree
so rein can get them into place
to pump damage
vs no shield break
but rein is dogshit
..
no he isn't
yes he is
Who told you that?
rein is absolute dog in this meta
I think they just hoped for huge point control, but heavily reliant on agilities picks
his only change from when he was the BEST tank in the GAME was 20% reduction in boops
hes outclassed by offtanks
They nerf shield
it woulda beaten a hog comp but it folds to dive
rein wouldnt be that bad
then swap
but they did
but since they did
so hes trash
the ammo change isn't in
is zykk any good
a little
kinda
Winston is the only viable one becasue of the nano, primal rage combo
um
so glads should win via pharah diff technically
nano primal is a meme
right
dog fight
that's a decent PLAT strat
bruh
no offense
nice hook
Its actually good
damn
its a genuine meme
you should get 1 token for each trivia question you get right
Winston against Hog is just sad
because thats an extra 5 tokens
hog is just funnily op
toronto good in this meta
^
only time nano primal has ever been good was when leap was bugged and did 50 damage everywhere
kev on tracer would be so much better
new hog is literally just old hog but without crazy 90 degree angle hooks
yes but everyone else got nerfed
no, he still does 50 less damage per shot
Nano on primal is a waste, its better used to give the winston the chance to get primal quicker
only time nano primal has ever been good was when leap was bugged and did 50 damage everywhere
@silk frost WHAT I MEAN IS, When he jumps in he gets thye nano, the nano fades awaya dn when hes about to die, he primal rages. Its like 3 lives
toronto has emp last fight
glads lost the fight
kev trolling
^
that's not really a combo tho
has kevster got a pick yet
Kinda is
Wow
I mean hes a houston fan so understandable
is glads had a real second dps theyd win
hog is such a raid boss lmao
if
gladiators giving defiant some hope
ez
Birdring payed off by defiant
what did kevster do that round?
ask anyone above gold bro, nano primal isn't a combo
birding is on glads right
im impressed with zykk
i mean, we said control is a bit iffy when boston won, and look how that turned out...
birdring
Birdring is sick
so uhm...
glads right
sickring
yeah
sadge
birdring is glads
why they playing kevster over birdring
ask anyone above gold bro, nano primal isn't a combo
@silk frost Go cheer for your team. Oh wait..
shittt
thats unlucky
wow I like a team bro you really got me
i feel bad for space
thats why defiant looks like the winner
if they lose this his mental will be brokeb
they needa release kev tho
no???
didnt get any value
the things are lining up for the 3rd upset this season
his tracer was clean
get a real dps
playoffs
wtf
i mean kev should not have been on widow lol
dude
not clean enough
dont listen to flexe
but he shud not be released lol
Kevster is like one of the best up and coming talents, you're judging him off 1 map?
single elimination about to be ALL upsets LMAOOO
bro Kev being bad on 1 hero and playing that hero DOES NOT MEAN he's bad
this server actin like YT chat ngl
Watching the OWL during my AP Chem call 

this meta def helps toronto
Wait nvm
ye
numlocked was arguably their worst of the starting 6
have u guys been watfching agilities streams
he farms so hard
poor space
Poor s4 tho

