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balmy wolf
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all the current t2 matches keep pointing towards dive the majority of the time

tropic herald
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I think even if hog is good

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Dva Hog is just better

balmy wolf
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u have less damage but you have constant peel from dva

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it depends on what you want

tropic herald
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Well

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Hog Zarya into Ana with any other sniper sucks ass

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Dva at least can eat nades or pressure snipers

balmy wolf
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actually recently we've been seeing reaper in dive comps

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probs for just negating teams from picking hog and dueling hog if hes played

tropic herald
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You watching NA?

balmy wolf
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kr

tropic herald
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It’s in Korea too?

balmy wolf
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yes

tropic herald
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I thought reaper was just NA lol

balmy wolf
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same, but i check kr contenders last night

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lots of reaper

tropic herald
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I see no world where reaper is good on this patch even just snipers roll him

balmy wolf
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well hes being played

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and actually the spark played reaper dive way before the playoff patch

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and rolled

tropic herald
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That was double shield doe

balmy wolf
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if reaper is being played in some maps, then theres obvious something reaper does thats appealing

tropic herald
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I think tomorrow

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Glads will play Dive with Tracer Widow and show that comp is superior

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If I see OGE on hog I guess I have to admit that hog comps are superior

balmy wolf
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i dont think there is a hard meta this time

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too early

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in t2 we saw a lot variations of the same comp

tropic herald
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We’ve also been watching shit teams play

balmy wolf
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i dont called KR contenders shit at all

tropic herald
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I wasn’t referring to KR

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More so just today’s games

balmy wolf
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oh the bottom 5?

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yea they run hog non stop

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since they probs knew they couldnt run a dive effectively

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but from what we heard the primary comp is dive, and the dps lineup changes a lot

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depending on the map

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on control maps or maps that have massive highground advantage u see reaper

tropic herald
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I just figured reaper would be popular on most control maps due to short sight lines and Rein Sig being more common and reaper fits that rush play style really well

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Although that makes me wonder why McCree wouldn’t be played Bc I assume it’s Reaper Mei?

balmy wolf
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sigma is dead

tropic herald
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Okay that’s weird

balmy wolf
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his peal is now crap and does very little against a dive now

tropic herald
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So it’s Rein Dva then?

balmy wolf
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yea

tropic herald
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Are teams doing Bap Lucio or picking Ana for fear of hog?

balmy wolf
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ana/moria

forest raven
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Boston did run rein sigma on control centre, but you know

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Boston

balmy wolf
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im referring to KR contenders

tropic herald
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That would be the map that como should be good for

balmy wolf
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but dva just protects teammates better than sigma

tropic herald
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I still find it hard to believe that sigma is getting little play

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Then again that matrix buff a while ago was massive

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Just no one thought about it because sigma was busted

balmy wolf
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dva was fine but DS was still too good

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now ds is ded so she returns

tropic herald
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Matrix has no counterplay rn other than demech the dva

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It’s uptime is insane

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If the dva wants to eat your ult she will

balmy wolf
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yea thats why sigma cant do shit against dive or in brawl

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his eat is on 10+ cd

tropic herald
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Wait there’s no way moira is played

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Moira would be so shit

balmy wolf
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yea lmao

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moria+lucio dive

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controls mostly

tropic herald
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Moira Lucio dive sucks

balmy wolf
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not if u have reaper

tropic herald
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I still don’t know why reaper is played my brain doesn’t comprehend it

balmy wolf
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think of it like sombra before DS was shit

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she negated DS by existing

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and if they switched off DS then sombra would still be fine either way

tropic herald
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But

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Reaper isn’t even the best anti dive

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Or anti hog

balmy wolf
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well he makes winston life hell

tropic herald
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So does Ashe

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Then again control maps have super short sight lines and they promote snowballs heroes which reaper is one

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But McCree and Ashe and Tracer and Sombra and Widow are just better picks

balmy wolf
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mcree in brawl but thats still niche

tropic herald
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Wait

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Why are they running dive

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Just go rein dva for control

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Well

balmy wolf
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u can stll run dive on control

tropic herald
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I guess it depends what control

balmy wolf
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but it may be that apac prefers reaper heavily more in dive than NA

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if asian contenders is anything to go by

tropic herald
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I guess

balmy wolf
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at the end of the day, its dive thats being played

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in some form

tropic herald
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I understand dive being played but reaper is so shit which is why I’m confused about him

balmy wolf
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wells he not shit at his niche

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which is being a tank buster

tropic herald
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His niche shouldn’t even be good

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Or better than just being a sniper

balmy wolf
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well im gonna assume in KR they like playing faster dives

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so no snipers

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and if you play lucio+moria then u just rush them and brawl with reaper

tropic herald
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Hmmm so it’s just Korea liking fast play

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Not reaper being good

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Korea just has a different style

balmy wolf
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if u need to play fast then snipers aint it

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u need to set them up properly

quaint cliff
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was hog played in owl

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i missed it

tawdry hamlet
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yes

earnest leaf
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yes

tawdry hamlet
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he was played a lot

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and houston lost to boston because they can't read a meta apparently

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OmegaLUL and jerry went off

digital cloud
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HYDRATION

quaint cliff
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what the fuck

digital cloud
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some are speculating that it was because the bad teams were playing

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and that the higher tiers will be more divey

quaint cliff
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hog is good but i didnt think he would be played in pro play

clear crane
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Apparently a couple of pro players think it won’t be kbbq meta

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Or watever name hog/zarya is

digital cloud
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was being called zog

clear crane
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Shock will prob want to run dive with smurf

balmy wolf
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u mean everyone not bottom tier will run dive

clear crane
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Fusion can do watever the fuck they want, with Sado Fury and Poko

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I would love to see NYXL Hogba and Bianca Zarya

dark hedge
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someone fill me in on what happened

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who won and what did they play

jagged crater
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fusion is homelander

umbral zodiac
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boston won against houston 3-1
washington won against vancouver 3-0 with decay on zarya

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pepega teams apparently run double OT as a crutch (scrimbux) while higher teams run the chengdu dive style w/ sombra probably (speculation)

upper niche
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Can't wait for half of the remaining perfect brackets to get destroyed tonight because of the APAC results.

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A majority of the remaining ones are like... Boston going all the way to the end ones too, so...

umbral zodiac
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viewership was really good last night too, 50k viewers for play-ins

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A majority of the remaining ones are like... Boston going all the way to the end ones too, so...
@upper niche i doubt there would be a perfect bracket, especially with all the crack that apac is on when theres a new meta

upper niche
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Yeah I think they're looking good for keeping their $100k.

surreal patrol
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wonder how many ppl watched 2 watch and how many just put it on for points

frosty herald
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i watched it to watch

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i think a lot of ppl did cuz the chat was p active

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i cant say for sure tho

surreal patrol
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chat will always look active cuz ppl spam shit

frosty herald
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tru

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but they were saying stuff that had to do with the game and stuff

umbral zodiac
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youtube doesnt earn you points though, only on the website + owl app which doesnt add to the yt viewer count

karmic grotto
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Nobody getting it right

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No 100k

silk frost
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Every team in OWL has won at least 1 playoff match.
...
Except the Houston Outlaws

umbral zodiac
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they 100% need a new coach and some player rebuilds

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keep danteh linkzr meko and rapel as a core and build off that

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would be a stable middle tier team

upper niche
grand echo
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I've been wanting to watch overwatch esports for a while. I downloaded the app and it looks like they've already played a bunch of games. I was wondering if its a bad time to get into watching it or if its been jumping in rn

viral veldt
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Pretty good time tbh

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Playoffs

grand echo
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After looking through the app for a bit, I'm really confused as to how it works and whats going on rn lol

sullen berry
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@rich bear you're looking for #lf-players-na there's also r/OverwatchLFT and ELOHell I've heard is good if you want to scout more teams and players

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this is serious discussion about OW League, contenders and live discussion when it's on

woven badge
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uggh why am i staying awake for this

dry mesa
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thanks boston for fucking up my bracket XD

woven badge
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^

sullen berry
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@dry mesa thanks for coming back i guess

dry mesa
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What

sullen berry
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did you die with the regular season last time you posted in esports

edgy tinsel
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@silk frost they've won one

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vs mayhem

dry mesa
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i've watched every game

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just don't post here a lot

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such a weird thing to say, kinda creepy

woven badge
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is yall's website working?

vagrant jacinth
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Lemme check

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Yeah, mine's good

woven badge
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it wont show me the match

vagrant jacinth
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Might be your connection, its working fine for me

woven badge
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can you see the live? i've refreshed it so many times and it says the match is live

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its working fine on yt

vagrant jacinth
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Lmao, soon as i said that my Wi-Fi died

woven badge
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right as you said that it worked on my end lmao

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@sullen berry u joining voice?

vagrant jacinth
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Ball!

woven badge
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iconic tbh

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yo is the players overlay messed up for you

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nvm, fixed

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or not

vagrant jacinth
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It was lol

woven badge
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was monkey ulting?

umbral zodiac
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what match is it today

woven badge
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london vs chengdu

vagrant jacinth
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The rez saved them :(

umbral zodiac
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oh shit

ebon aurora
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yveltal's mercy is actually nuts

vagrant jacinth
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It is

ebon aurora
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so many clutch res

vagrant jacinth
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Just goes for em

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Wonder what's the next map

feral zodiac
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Website is being complete ass rn

woven badge
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^

vagrant jacinth
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Always is

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Website is p garbo

ebon aurora
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pharmercy on king's row - not sure if that'll work

woven badge
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ashe and mercy?

karmic grotto
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off tank meta

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ez

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sinatraa LULW

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SHOCK IS FUCKED

vagrant jacinth
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Jinmu'll make it work

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Well

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Shit

feral zodiac
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Choi has a solid hog but idk who would play zarya instead of him

ebon aurora
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Genji?????

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Jinmu you mad lad

hot heart
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???

karmic grotto
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LOL

ebon aurora
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what a c9

woven badge
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NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

hot heart
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AMENG

sullen berry
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I could not be more WOKE

woven badge
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4:09

edgy tinsel
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Choi has a solid hog but idk who would play zarya instead of him
@feral zodiac smurf

karmic grotto
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rip shock

edgy tinsel
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smurf has a good zarya tho

ebon aurora
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nah choi zarya, super/smurf hog

sullen berry
fervent beacon
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That was the best C9 Ive ever seen

vagrant jacinth
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I weep

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I cri

woven badge
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:sadpeepo:

sullen berry
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screenshots that precede an epic overwatch league moment

vagrant jacinth
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Brbr

wintry kraken
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why does that c9 scream 'self-inflicted wound x 100' ?

woven badge
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Images that precede unfortunate events

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like eating glass in 7 days to die

feral zodiac
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Site is so bad

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Pls blizz fix site

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Holy shit

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Can this stop pausing randomly

karmic grotto
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xD

balmy wolf
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its smooth wdym

woven badge
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anyone have player cams during c9

karmic grotto
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does the stream look so laggy or is it just me

feral zodiac
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LOL

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Ameng

sullen berry
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you're obviously watching the inferior stream

feral zodiac
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does the stream look so laggy or is it just me
@karmic grotto same here

woven badge
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chinese stream pogU

feral zodiac
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LOL

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Bob

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What is it with Chengdu and going off the map

balmy wolf
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bm

woven badge
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rip london

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yo why is the chinese casting set so much better

feral zodiac
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C9c9c9c9c9c9 by sleep ball

woven badge
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all i know is pain

feral zodiac
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Lul

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Bone jiggler

balmy wolf
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So

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I dolnt see ny winning finals but if this ball comp is good I see ny doing amazing

ebon aurora
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interesting substitutions from chengdu

sullen berry
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well you're in for a surprise

woven badge
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obi in the future lol

sullen berry
coral snow
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shusshss

feral zodiac
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China is just better

coral snow
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nah UK'

hot heart
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I am gonna go to sleep

sullen berry
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speaking of which

hot heart
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And then wake up

sullen berry
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there was a london spitfire livestream

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I wonder if they're doing it now

hot heart
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And hopefully see that boston 3-0 ATL

feral zodiac
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UK casting ZaryaLUL

coral snow
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when

feral zodiac
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And hopefully see that boston 3-0 ATL
@hot heart hell ye

coral snow
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when did i ask?

feral zodiac
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ZaryaLUL doesn't work there

coral snow
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shush

tawdry hamlet
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Im so stupid for forgetting apac game is now when im awake at 3am with withdrawals killing me and in need of distraction

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Big fucking brain on me dude

ebon aurora
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hog and ball, here we go

tawdry hamlet
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isn't he supposed to be the best ball in the league

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why tf is he playing so bad lmao

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I don't think ball was the right the pick at all for this meta

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I really like how apac teams are not afraid to run different strats out of the meta

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rip spitfire

balmy wolf
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Hes doing fine on ball

woven badge
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poggers

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lets gooooooooooooo

vagrant jacinth
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Ah

balmy wolf
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And honestly I think he might look like the best ball

vagrant jacinth
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They lost 3-1

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Saw it coming but I'm still sad

balmy wolf
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because not a lot play ball but imo0 Mano is the best ball

ebon aurora
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Watching Ameng is hilarious

tawdry hamlet
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rip london sadthonk

woven badge
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Ameng: you may be in her dms, but im in london's backline

ebon aurora
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Nah Ameng's ball is the best in the league

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Mano is top tier though

balmy wolf
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Eh

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We will see mano vs chengdu modt likely

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Mano vs ameng I mean

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If not the best, hes second

ebon aurora
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Yveltal massively deserved POTM

woven badge
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yea

ebon aurora
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god chengdu matches are fun

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do you think NY pick chengdu or seoul

woven badge
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seoul, 100%

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ny shits themselves when they see chengdu

tropic herald
karmic grotto
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dont treat my team like trash

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atl aint gonna lose 3-0

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but if they do

upper niche
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WTF - not only are they not doing the opponent selections tonight but they're not even going to update the scores on the website either? holy fuck OWL are getting unprofessional.

edgy tinsel
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selections for what..

upper niche
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who plays who tomorrow night in APAC.

edgy tinsel
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They'll do that on the chinese stream..

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like they always do

upper niche
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tomorrow? right before the match?

karmic grotto
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Decay actually winning matches

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Imagine that

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Justice actually supporting Decay

edgy tinsel
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No .. they'll do it today on the chinese stream

upper niche
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... they played 2 hours ago.

karmic grotto
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Decay and jjanu good teamwork

upper niche
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it finished what, 30 minutes ago?

vagrant jacinth
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Scores are updated for me

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Is the London match not on their channel yet or am I blind?

edgy tinsel
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it will premier soon

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YT doesn't upload straight away

vagrant jacinth
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I need to watch the last half, I had to go

upper niche
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@vagrant jacinth Yeah, I kinda mean in bracket builder, which is what everyone cares about at the moment.

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why it doesnt pull from the same data source is a mystery.

tropic herald
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I didn’t watch the Chengdu game but supposedly it was a little funky

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Given the tweets I woke up too

edgy tinsel
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its updated for me

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so like idk what yr saying

vagrant jacinth
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Same for me haha

upper niche
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I don't see any APAC data being updated.

vagrant jacinth
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I didn’t watch the Chengdu game but supposedly it was a little funky
@tropic herald from what I did catch it was

upper niche
tropic herald
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Well it’s a tie between lots of people so

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Is there really a leader

sullen berry
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holy fuck OWL are getting unprofessional.
@upper niche welcome to season 3 kek

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they're probably delaying the witch hunt people are doing really with the perfect bracket

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and within that 5.2%

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they're being even more punishing with those picks

tropic herald
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Considering 94.8% of people got boomed after one game

sullen berry
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Toronto vs Glads

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??

tropic herald
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How could Boston win

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Top 10 Moments Even Science Can’t Answer

sullen berry
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sometimes you keep listening to the voice of reason

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I think people feel threatened or personally attacked at the thought of boston winning after looking at their most recent and past performance

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nothing was ever on the record they improved so much as they knew what they were doing going into the playoffs

upper niche
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@sullen berry We were going through earlier trying to figure out how they got to the allocated points people are on, they don't even appear to be following their own rulebook for the competition - not that what's in the document makes any sense.

sullen berry
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name a better tragedy than the Overwatch League

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and honuring their own documentation

upper niche
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@sullen berry UCI 😄

sullen berry
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Cali Irvine?

upper niche
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when it comes to following rules, holy fuck the UCI are a joke.

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UCI - Union Cycliste Internatle. The international cycling body.

sullen berry
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oh a cycling league

upper niche
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I've worked at countless National championships in various disciplines and World Cups, and holy fuck they just ignore rules any time it's convenient. Coming from motorsport where if rules aren't followed people die, it's just frustrating being involved in cycling now.

tawdry hamlet
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I want Glads to win babyy

sullen berry
idle gorge
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too small
laughs in overwatch crosshair

edgy tinsel
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@upper niche from the chinese stream

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happy?

ebon aurora
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NY picked Chengdu after all

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interesting

true hound
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ameng ball

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will defeat NYXL

ebon aurora
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Mano's ball is pretty stellar too

sullen berry
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I would have watched this instead were it not for the superior chinese stream

tropic herald
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NY must feel super confident in their Dive

ebon aurora
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tbh I'm more curious who they play for DPS

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Nenne/SBB?

hearty cedar
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why is decay playing zarya and not ashe for washington?

ebon aurora
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because his zarya is insane

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who else would play zarya for them?

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JJanu I guess but then who plays hog

sullen berry
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@ebon aurora JJonak / Nenne

hearty cedar
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not sure but feels weird that they hired a hitscan to play tank :D

ebon aurora
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zarya is pretty much a DPS

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but I know what you mean

hearty cedar
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yeah i mean clearly he is popping of on first map

ebon aurora
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are you just catching up with that match? In which case I won't spoil it

edgy tinsel
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I mean stitch is also a very good hitscan

hearty cedar
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yeah

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finished round 1

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thx rinqed

edgy tinsel
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So why not have your best zarya play zarya then your great hitscan stay om hitscan

ebon aurora
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Fuel v Justice is going to be hype

tropic herald
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I mean I don’t think Decay was signed because his Zarya its just a nice bonus

feral zodiac
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Watch justice and boston go much further than expected

true hound
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boston sweeps shanghai

vagrant jacinth
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Welp

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Goodbye nyxl

clear crane
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Chengdu is the meta

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I think Wash beats Dallas pretty handily. Boston I can def see upsetting Reign

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Bring back AKM Zarya PepeHype

feral zodiac
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boston sweeps shanghai
@true hound reverse sweep

next mesa
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London fans

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It's unfortunate

vagrant jacinth
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Yes

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Wash will spank dallas, Boston v Atlanta could either way which I didn't think I'd say

balmy wolf
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Boston 3-0

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Finals will be wash vs boston and boston will 3-0

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Obviously

next mesa
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Myunbang your mom

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I still got reign over Boston but new meta anything could happen baby

stuck radish
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yea

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boston 3-0 shock when

edgy tinsel
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London will be alot stronger next year

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its ok

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we started to play worse when aWesomeGuy left

vagrant jacinth
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Ye, I'm looking forward to it

hidden vault
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boston 3-0 shock when
Season one stage 3

next mesa
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what was the meta in apac

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ball zarya for chengdu and winston zarya ?

raw ermine
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Winston was only played on control

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Hog zarya a lot for London

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well, they played winston (chengdu) on volskaya

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it didn't work

next mesa
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huh

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so zarya

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and hog or winston

raw ermine
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for Chengdu, they did a lot of ball (unsuprising) and zarya/roadhog

next mesa
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yep

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hog and balls torture

raw ermine
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151 perfect brackets left

next mesa
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hahaha

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watching kings row idk about this clestyn guy's hog

raw ermine
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what part are you on rn?

next mesa
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been skimming it

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watched point 2-3 attack and defense

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ok whatever unimportant

raw ermine
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good so you saw the ||hamster C9||

next mesa
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ok that was a sus c9

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lol

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yeah

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god

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that was so sad

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molly's expression was like the definition of pepelaugh

velvet hawk
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Clestyn was in the range to hook Ameng D:

next mesa
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maybe was on cd

velvet hawk
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possibly

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I would love to watch Hunters reach the finals

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with Guangzhou ofc

next mesa
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I mean

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dragons reaching the finals is like lowkey 100% probability

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unless hog meta just fucks them over

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but I wouldn't be surprised if they are like uh no fuck you we're just gonna play dive

velvet hawk
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Yeah. This does seem like one of the few metas where they're not gonna be a completely dominant force. This relies a lot more on Lip imo

unkempt gale
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well

velvet hawk
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Im scared for my Gz bois a little. Nero will probably sub in to play Hog but I've heard their comms and only Rio and Eileen have consistently kept up with English callouts throughout recent games

unkempt gale
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then again

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titans tried saying "fuck u we're running dive"

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and got absolutely shit on

tepid ridge
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You’re comparing titans to shanghai

velvet hawk
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There is a difference between SHD and Titans though.. just a small one

next mesa
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it's only the best dive team in the league with the best sombra in the league wym

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not that big of a difference

velvet hawk
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ofc

unkempt gale
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ik

velvet hawk
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they're basically the same

next mesa
unkempt gale
#

but regardless

#

titans are still pro

velvet hawk
#

Shanghai could've beate

unkempt gale
#

they're still a team with incredible players

velvet hawk
#

dw.. i can;t type

#

Yeah true. They were playing a Decay Zarya and a Washington with Roar on the bench

tepid ridge
#

The titans are simply not as good as Shanghai

next mesa
#

The titans are complete dogshit

#

lol

tepid ridge
#

True

velvet hawk
#

Stitch was also feeling it yesterday

unkempt gale
#

but the thing is right

#

with every pro sport or esport

#

if you are in the league

#

you are considered the best of the best

velvet hawk
#

true

unkempt gale
#

regardless of how you preform

tepid ridge
#

But the thing is

next mesa
#

wrong

tepid ridge
#

In any pro sport or esport

next mesa
#

there's a difference between a superstar and a benchwarmer

#

in any sport

velvet hawk
#

some Kr Contenders teams would beat Titans now.. and by some I mean quite a few

unkempt gale
#

true

sullen berry
#

@next mesa even when shred lock looks good and it's only when he ults, they still drop the map

tepid ridge
#

Teams can be far worse than others in the same league

unkempt gale
#

also true

sullen berry
#

Shockwave difference

next mesa
#

lowkey shockwave is the only one winning them games

sullen berry
#

He can't carry with the team the way it is

unkempt gale
#

the team as a whole can be bad and still have amazing talent on the roster

velvet hawk
#

Shockwave to me is like the KSP of Titans but he's not as good

next mesa
#

mm

unkempt gale
#

and i feel like that was kinda the case with certain areas of boston

next mesa
#

He was more like decay to the fuel

#

he is*

unkempt gale
#

bostons coaching staff was just

#

yikes

velvet hawk
#

Dallas vs Decay later o.o

unkempt gale
#

like dont get me wrong

tepid ridge
#

Halo is just yikes

unkempt gale
#

if they had coaching staff 100

sullen berry
#

Everything went wrong, even when it would sync up against Gladiators that one time

unkempt gale
#

i still dont think they would be a top 4

velvet hawk
#

Outlaws strategy staff are pogchamp

unkempt gale
#

but i think they could get 5 seed or 6 seed

tepid ridge
#

Boston could never be above mid table with their current roster

sullen berry
#

He's not the biggest disappointment, but one of many this season

tepid ridge
#

No matter how good or bad their coaching is

next mesa
#

decay will make dallas their bitch

#

"part ways" with me try to part this 14 inch monster zarya peen

sullen berry
#

I'm more upset that SMS hasn't found a team, and neither has Miro who went LFT in the past couple months

tepid ridge
#

Was sms looking for a team

sullen berry
#

Waiting on the big bang Spark energy against Seoul

tepid ridge
#

I thought he was taking this season off

unkempt gale
#

ok ok ok

sullen berry
#

The brackets have been revealed for Day 2 APAC

velvet hawk
#

Neko should be an OWL flex support

#

still

unkempt gale
#

who does everyone think is playing in grand finals for na

next mesa
#

seoul win

#

pls

unkempt gale
#

aka which two teams

sullen berry
#

He can stay in OWC Korea

next mesa
#

fusion and shock

#

is pretty expected

unkempt gale
#

same

#

yeah

tepid ridge
#

Shock fusion

unkempt gale
#

but then again

#

in what order

next mesa
#

Fusion and then shock

velvet hawk
#

Im hoping for a Charge Shanghai grand final Charge 4-2 Shanghai

tepid ridge
#

Maybe Paris if genji comes back

unkempt gale
#

do you see shock in the losers bracket or shock

#

fusion*

sullen berry
#

I refuse to convince myself Seoul has what it takes for the fourth time

next mesa
#

shock in losers bracket

#

with meta change

#

but they will adjust and win

tepid ridge
#

If shock actually show up philly will lose

unkempt gale
#

wait holy shit

#

no

#

dude

next mesa
#

you can say vice versa

#

@sullen berry I believe

balmy wolf
#

Fusion is goated no contest

unkempt gale
#

my brain just went off

#

carpe is going to THRIVE in this meta

#

where snipers run free and the only sheild is zarya bubble?

sullen berry
#

ProFITS (profit + fits) gesture toby and bdosin are changgoon's untameable children

unkempt gale
#

this is where i think we will see peak carpe

balmy wolf
#

YES

unkempt gale
#

because i think everything up to now was good

#

but not his absolute 100%

balmy wolf
#

HE WAS THE REASON Y I STARTED PLAYING OW

next mesa
#

They are trying to turn profit into fleta

#

someone that can play anything

unkempt gale
#

im trying to beckme fleta

sullen berry
#

You don't have to turn him into anything

next mesa
#

like he has been playing pharah, widow, ashe

#

genji

#

because fits is stuck on sombra

#

fits has good sombra btw but like

sullen berry
#

He could care less if he was put on Zarya duty for control or if he pops off on his comfort picks

next mesa
#

fits usually their hitscan

tepid ridge
#

Profit is a very flexible player tho

unkempt gale
#

ok buy

#

but

#

flexible doesn't mean

#

make this man play the entire dps roster

next mesa
#

they should let illicit handle projectile tbh

sullen berry
#

Fits sombra is too unsafe

next mesa
#

but like

#

I understand the decision

#

in having profit in the lineup no matter what

#

I mean bruh

#

he's profit

tepid ridge
#

Yes

next mesa
tepid ridge
#

Totally

sullen berry
#

They've only ever shown him do a poor job than all other sombra that's not jinmu or glister

unkempt gale
#

like i have been playing ow for a while and i consider myself a pretty good flex support, playing the most ana followed by moira then lucio,

#

but even then i still for some reason cant get good at bap

tepid ridge
#

Profits one of the few carry factors of dynasty

next mesa
#

I just hope toyou can change things up

unkempt gale
#

ok 1 thing i will say abt seoul

next mesa
#

seoul does not have good record against spark though

unkempt gale
#

they have the best skins

#

in OWL

next mesa
#

facts

unkempt gale
#

those black and gold skins

#

holy god

sullen berry
#

Makes the defiant skins look subpar

unkempt gale
#

^

sullen berry
#

And they do the red and black really well

unkempt gale
#

even their away skins dont miss

next mesa
#

ikr ikr

tepid ridge
#

Do you think it’s better than London skins

next mesa
#

yes

velvet hawk
#

I hate the green on Seoul skins. Same with yellow skins. It just ruins them

#

Much prefer bluer skins or skins like Shanghai and toronto

#

Even shanghai yellow bits r a bit dirty tho

next mesa
#

there is no green doe

velvet hawk
#

wut

next mesa
velvet hawk
#

ah shit... that's gold

#

I am.. yeah.

next mesa
#

o

#

interesting

#

yes their whole thing is black and gold

velvet hawk
#

I always thought the gold was green.. o well

next mesa
#

like the tiger

#

gold is more like

#

a shinier yellow

velvet hawk
#

I thought the tiger was orange kek. I just assumed it was bcos Tigers generally are orange

next mesa
#

lol

velvet hawk
#

ngl it still looks green to me

#

that';s weird. normally after hearing the colour I see it but nah.. im jsut braindead

vagrant jacinth
next mesa
#

lateyoung

#

kinda godly ngl

#

hunters is a dark horse

#

I think if nyxl sweep them, nyxl will make it to the finals instead of charge

vagrant jacinth
#

I think chengdu will take them

#

Clestyn looked good on hog I think

#

Glister was going off too

velvet hawk
#

I will struggle to carry on watching OWL if Charge lose to NYXL

#

NYXL fans are too annoying

next mesa
#

idk ameng ball is nasty but mano ball aint too far off either

vagrant jacinth
#

From my experience they are yeah

velvet hawk
#

true. But Yveltal> Anamo 😎

vagrant jacinth
#

Yveltal is sick

velvet hawk
#

His rezzes mid fight may be punished by better teams but still

next mesa
#

I think nyxl is a more stacked team overall though

#

if they figure out how to balance between jjonak and haksal

clear crane
#

Nyxl is crazy stacked talent wise

#

Just can’t deploy

vagrant jacinth
#

They pretty inconsistent tho, depends which nyxl turns up

next mesa
#

I think lately they have been doing a lot better

#

solidified themselves as second best apac team

clear crane
#

Still funny how we went from double shield to no shield meta ZaryaStrong at least from the teams we seen so far

edgy tinsel
#

are nyxl gonna run hotba bianca then?

clear crane
#

I would love the return of Hogba

cobalt spoke
#

I want chengdu and shanghai to be top 2

next mesa
#

idk how charge will do in this meta

balmy wolf
#

Nyxl on ball comps is nice ngl

#

Mano just carries hard

velvet hawk
#

I asked Nero on twitter how Gz were in scrims and he didn't tell me :(

#

I think Charge have good teamwork and coordination as one of their main points and this meta is less of that and more individual plays. (Ofc Happy and Shu etc are beasts but the meta gz were best in was a lot to do with coordinating halts, rocks, blades etc)

#

Happy is best on stage i think. He turns tf up

next mesa
#

I haven't payed too much attention to happy

#

I really should

velvet hawk
#

He was at his prime stage 4 last season I think and he said on their YT that he feels amazing when on stage. He's still been dirty this season tho.

autumn briar
#

thoughts on frankie?

feral zodiac
#

Good, not as good as soe though

worn falcon
#

Well Frankie came from CSGO, Soe at least have a few years in OWL/OWWC

#

She isnt bad for me

cosmic plinth
#

im just going to make a bold prediction. charge will lose to new york and then lose to hangzhou in losers

#

i just have a weird feeling

worn falcon
#

Chengdu gonna reach finals

#

SHD vs Chengdu

feral zodiac
#

Tru

#

But not tru

#

Boston vs chengdu finals

balmy wolf
#

yes

tropic herald
#

I think if dive still is played then Shanghai NY surely win APAC

balmy wolf
#

I think shnaghai wins no matter whats

#

Ik its boring butt hats just how far ahead they are

#

On and expect DDing to be released in the offseason

#

Prolly diem too

green oxide
karmic grotto
#

can you not?

tropic herald
#

I think Diem is insane but I really doubt Shanghai keeps him he could go to another team and get playtime there and bring the other team up

#

Also

#

Glads 3 - 0 Defiant
Uprising 2 - 3 Reign
Justice 3 - 1 Fuel

vagrant jacinth
#

I pretend I did not see it

sullen berry
#

I was there

#

when Spitfire was regained its rightful crown from Shang9

woven badge
#

shang9 lul

balmy wolf
#

Mood killer reinforce

#

true

woven badge
#

God yveltal’s mercy

balmy wolf
#

toronto 3-2 boston 3-2 Justice 3-0

#

Putting my trust in toronto

#

Prolly shouldnt

#

But oh well

deep wolf
#

triple dps pog

woven badge
sage lance
#

holy shit myunbong 😂

woven badge
#

Fuck y’all brackets 😂😂

#

Why would hydration ult there

clear crane
#

Agilities Hog sweeeet

static badge
#

I am pretty they going put him at tank

#

like they did with Decay yesterday

#

who pop off

sullen berry
#

Zargilities

spark shadow
#

I have found out that the OWL has to be the active window for tokens

#

Because I only got 5 yesterday

woven badge
#

Rip me then

spark shadow
#

I’m gonna leave it open on my phone now lol

viral veldt
#

Why people saying moth is nervous?

hazy leaf
#

hes nervous

viral veldt
#

True

sullen berry
#

It's from one of the comms check videos

viral veldt
#

Ty

sullen berry
#

all they did was bring up every moment shock asked if moth was nervous

#

probably better with audio

spark shadow
#

My stream hella lagging

clear crane
#

that head is just perfectly round

sullen berry
#

it's time

vagrant jacinth
#

The eggman

weak bolt
#

Agilities hog, lets go

clear crane
#

hmm so basically all the teams with a shitty MT are taking them out

#

unless they are handcuffed like BOS/VAN

balmy wolf
#

No?

weak bolt
#

DPS players probably play more hog for past 3 years as he was more dps than tank lol

balmy wolf
#

Its not because of bad mts, just hog is op rn

silk frost
#

NO BIRDRING?!

unkempt gale
#

honestly

clear crane
#

OGE hog 🙂

outer zenith
#

Traditionally, before Role-lock and into the first two years of Overwatch, DPS players were the ones on Hog.

unkempt gale
#

fuck the brackets

#

i want boston to win the grand finals

weak bolt
#

It's control, might be playing something weird

unkempt gale
#

just to fuck the brackets

clear crane
#

regardless most of the lower tier teams have bad MTs

spark shadow
#

No Kevster picture lol

unkempt gale
#

but guess what

#

no main tank

#

:))

clear crane
#

o birdring is sick?

#

rip

spark shadow
#

F

karmic grotto
#

kevster agro

weak bolt
#

Gladiators and players going missing for playoffs. Nothing new 😄

karmic grotto
#

also, kevster is a robot

#

WHO IS KEVSTER

spark shadow
#

@weak bolt Fissure flashbacks

lean spire
#

toronto 3-2 i predict

static badge
#

For real

spark shadow
#

I just actually want my tokens

weak bolt
#

Kariv on Ana could actually be so clutch

clear crane
#

This actually hurts Glads so much

lean spire
#

agilities is crazy

#

on hog

spark shadow
#

I was jyped

static badge
#

Well we will see what happens

balmy wolf
#

Poor S4 sadge

unkempt gale
#

i'm saying its toronto 3-1

clear crane
#

Forcing Mirror back on DPS when they could run Mirror/Space Hog/Zarya

lean spire
#

he farms on stream harder than anyone ive ever seen

balmy wolf
#

AYO

lean spire
#

i think toronto will win if birdring doesnt play

balmy wolf
#

I say boston 3-2 toronto 3-2 washington 3-0

static badge
#

mirror play a good zarya

clear crane
#

OGE HOG!

#

awww

unkempt gale
#

REAPER SOMBRA

#

BRUH

static badge
#

DIVE

spark shadow
#

I haven’t heard that name in a long time...

unkempt gale
#

wait a minute

#

dive..

spark shadow
#

Lucio PogChimp

clear crane
#

hard to gauge since its control, but if glads play dive on the other maps, rumors prob true the higher level teams are just running more dive

lean spire
#

jeez zykk

#

toronto got this tbh

unkempt gale
#

thats the thing tho

#

i've looked at fusions and eternals lineups

#

tbh

#

i think they'll run the meta

clear crane
#

Fusion would fuck in this meta

unkempt gale
#

shock could run meta if they play super on hog

weak bolt
#

Problem is we don't know what the meta is with the good teams

#

We are seeing the bad team meta

balmy wolf
#

Choi zarya is poop

unkempt gale
#

i was watching about 4 and a half hours worth of him playing hog yesterday

#

it was pretty good

#

i saw some things that could be better

balmy wolf
#

Choi hog is op

unkempt gale
#

but he might be the second best hog on the shock team right now

#

yeah

#

choi def will start hog

balmy wolf
#

BTW

clear crane
#

Smurf has a nice Zarya

balmy wolf
#

Shanghai have geguri

lean spire
#

glads???

balmy wolf
#

The only female player in olw and shes a god hog/dva

unkempt gale
#

the only thing is

lean spire
#

emp barrage

unkempt gale
#

if the lower teams play hog zarya or hog dva

#

and the higher teams run dive

#

it could be a problem

#

because hog wins against a winston or d.va every single time

#

in 1v1's

#

the only way dive works is with extreme communication

#

but then again

#

these are the top teams of pro

#

so maybe they can pull it off

lean spire
#

agilties

balmy wolf
#

Damn agilites

lean spire
#

Im tellin u

silk frost
#

Mirror got 12% in 20 seconds

clear crane
#

Pog Agilities

lean spire
#

agilities is one of the best hogs in the world

#

legit farming

unkempt gale
#

good first round played by both teams

weak bolt
#

Kariv and Agilities could carry this hard

lean spire
#

zykk doin well too suprisingly

silk frost
#

Shaz doesn't look great on Moira

round cargo
#

LET THE POINT GO

lean spire
#

ye why are they even playing moira

clear crane
#

Rein.....

unkempt gale
#

NEVIX REIN?

sage lance
#

Rein Hog PogChimp

weak bolt
#

Nevix needs new sneakers

unkempt gale
woven badge
#

?????????????/

weak bolt
#

Got to hit those 5 man shatters

balmy wolf
#

Bruh im not even a shock fan but choi is literally gonna play farming simulator 2021

woven badge
#

he needs to cover his feetsies

lean spire
#

reins a good pick

#

cuz they know glads not running ana

sage lance
#

that was such a fast pulse

silk frost
#

not good moira play

#

on either side

round cargo
#

why is toronto playing in wrong meta

unkempt gale
#

no clue LOL

silk frost
#

rein isn't BAD

round cargo
#

is hitscan nerf not live in owl

silk frost
#

no it isn'tt

#

just the hog buff patch

round cargo
#

then why they on rein

balmy wolf
#

?

silk frost
#

point presence?

unkempt gale
#

KEVSTER

round cargo
#

theyre up one they shouldnt int

unkempt gale
#

GOD DAMN

balmy wolf
#

Cuz they dont have ana

silk frost
#

maybe it worked in scrims and they didn't expect the dive

round cargo
#

point presence with rein in this meta?

silk frost
#

they just look arrogant and won't swap

lean spire
#

its cuz they have hog mcree

#

so rein can get them into place

#

to pump damage

#

vs no shield break

round cargo
#

but rein is dogshit

balmy wolf
#

..

silk frost
#

no he isn't

round cargo
#

yes he is

balmy wolf
#

Who told you that?

round cargo
#

rein is absolute dog in this meta

weak bolt
#

I think they just hoped for huge point control, but heavily reliant on agilities picks

silk frost
#

his only change from when he was the BEST tank in the GAME was 20% reduction in boops

round cargo
#

hes outclassed by offtanks

static badge
#

They nerf shield

unkempt gale
#

ehh

#

see

#

heres the thing

silk frost
#

it woulda beaten a hog comp but it folds to dive

unkempt gale
#

rein wouldnt be that bad

round cargo
#

then swap

unkempt gale
#

IF

#

BIG IF

#

they didnt nerf healing

round cargo
#

but they did

unkempt gale
#

but since they did

round cargo
#

so hes trash

unkempt gale
#

rein became trash

#

along with all the main tanks

silk frost
#

the ammo change isn't in

round cargo
#

is zykk any good

silk frost
#

a little

unkempt gale
#

kinda

balmy wolf
#

Winston is the only viable one becasue of the nano, primal rage combo

silk frost
#

um

round cargo
#

so glads should win via pharah diff technically

silk frost
#

nano primal is a meme

round cargo
#

right

clear crane
#

dog fight

balmy wolf
#

I mean

#

Nano and the primal when he is gonna die

silk frost
#

that's a decent PLAT strat

balmy wolf
#

bruh

silk frost
#

no offense

round cargo
#

nice hook

balmy wolf
#

Its actually good

clear crane
#

damn

silk frost
#

its a genuine meme

unkempt gale
#

you should get 1 token for each trivia question you get right

clear crane
#

Winston against Hog is just sad

unkempt gale
#

because thats an extra 5 tokens

round cargo
#

hog is just funnily op

lean spire
#

toronto good in this meta

unkempt gale
#

^

round cargo
#

glads shouldnt be on widow

#

not enough damage for hog

silk frost
#

only time nano primal has ever been good was when leap was bugged and did 50 damage everywhere

round cargo
#

kev on tracer would be so much better

unkempt gale
#

new hog is literally just old hog but without crazy 90 degree angle hooks

round cargo
#

yes but everyone else got nerfed

silk frost
#

no, he still does 50 less damage per shot

weak bolt
#

Nano on primal is a waste, its better used to give the winston the chance to get primal quicker

balmy wolf
#

only time nano primal has ever been good was when leap was bugged and did 50 damage everywhere
@silk frost WHAT I MEAN IS, When he jumps in he gets thye nano, the nano fades awaya dn when hes about to die, he primal rages. Its like 3 lives

lean spire
#

toronto has emp last fight

static badge
#

glads lost the fight

round cargo
#

kev trolling

unkempt gale
#

^

silk frost
#

that's not really a combo tho

clear crane
#

has kevster got a pick yet

balmy wolf
#

Kinda is

round cargo
#

not kinda

#

he trolling hard

static badge
#

Wow

balmy wolf
#

I mean hes a houston fan so understandable

round cargo
#

is glads had a real second dps theyd win

clear crane
#

hog is such a raid boss lmao

round cargo
#

if

karmic grotto
#

gladiators giving defiant some hope

lean spire
#

ez

balmy wolf
#

Birdring payed off by defiant

real gyro
#

what did kevster do that round?

silk frost
#

ask anyone above gold bro, nano primal isn't a combo

round cargo
#

birding is on glads right

lean spire
#

im impressed with zykk

unkempt gale
#

i mean, we said control is a bit iffy when boston won, and look how that turned out...

round cargo
#

birdring

clear crane
#

Birdring is sick

unkempt gale
#

so uhm...

round cargo
#

glads right

silk frost
#

sickring

unkempt gale
#

yeah

silk frost
#

sadge

unkempt gale
#

birdring is glads

round cargo
#

why they playing kevster over birdring

balmy wolf
#

ask anyone above gold bro, nano primal isn't a combo
@silk frost Go cheer for your team. Oh wait..

unkempt gale
#

he is sick

#

cant play

round cargo
#

shittt

unkempt gale
#

rip

#

yeah

round cargo
#

thats unlucky

silk frost
#

wow I like a team bro you really got me

round cargo
#

i feel bad for space

unkempt gale
#

thats why defiant looks like the winner

round cargo
#

if they lose this his mental will be brokeb

unkempt gale
#

agilities on hog

#

with hog broken rn

#

and birdring sick

round cargo
#

they needa release kev tho

silk frost
#

no???

round cargo
#

didnt get any value

unkempt gale
#

the things are lining up for the 3rd upset this season

silk frost
#

his tracer was clean

round cargo
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get a real dps

unkempt gale
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playoffs

karmic grotto
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wtf

clear crane
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i mean kev should not have been on widow lol

unkempt gale
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dude

round cargo
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not clean enough

karmic grotto
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dont listen to flexe

clear crane
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but he shud not be released lol

weak bolt
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Kevster is like one of the best up and coming talents, you're judging him off 1 map?

unkempt gale
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single elimination about to be ALL upsets LMAOOO

silk frost
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bro Kev being bad on 1 hero and playing that hero DOES NOT MEAN he's bad

round cargo
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who is adriel again

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it does

lean spire
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this server actin like YT chat ngl

spark shadow
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Watching the OWL during my AP Chem call WidowLUL

round cargo
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he plays this game for a living

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he should know when to switch

karmic grotto
feral zodiac
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Glads legit losing

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Ffs

clear crane
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this meta def helps toronto

feral zodiac
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Wait nvm

lean spire
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ye

clear crane
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numlocked was arguably their worst of the starting 6

lean spire
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have u guys been watfching agilities streams

feral zodiac
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I've got them down as losing

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GO TORONTO

lean spire
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he farms so hard

round cargo
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poor space

balmy wolf
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Poor s4 tho