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static turret
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Any support line from KR contenders

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To help birdring do his job

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Goose is almost 30yo he wont get better

idle beacon
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and you think an 18year old will help birdring alot better than an 3year OWL experienced player?

clear crane
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I wanna see Kevster’s face

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I’m pretty sure most OWL fans do

static turret
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Lmao

clear crane
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What are they gonna do wen he plays on stage? Just hide him in a box?

static turret
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Stop this shit with experience

vagrant jacinth
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owl's biggest secret

static turret
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Its not that important

idle beacon
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whats wrong with kevster?

static turret
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Biggest secret is why atlanta sub in saucy every series

clear crane
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We know how Saucy looks like

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Where his pic at

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Do the photoshop crap they do for every titans players

idle beacon
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lolol

static turret
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Atlanta could won 3-1 tbh

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But good guy brad and saucy

idle beacon
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so it wasn't because sfs were better in the end?

static turret
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Hard to win being 5vs6

idle beacon
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ah

static turret
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Saucy is non existent

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Vs major teams

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Not his fault

idle beacon
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i fell asleep. so i didnt see the last 2 or 3 rounds

vagrant jacinth
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shock dominated hanamura but that's about it

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atlanta could've won but i think they were sloppy in ult usage

static turret
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Hope erster find good team

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With edison

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No reason to keep rot in Atlanta

vagrant jacinth
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glads actually got stopped lmao

static turret
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They too good for this team

vagrant jacinth
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dreamer's winston pog

idle beacon
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what was that dumb move by that winston?

vagrant jacinth
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oop

idle beacon
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shaking his mouse like being on h

vagrant jacinth
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that should be a cap

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yup

upper niche
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Good news: The website already updated the score. We know who won.

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Or bad news.

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They need to fix this shit.

idle beacon
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what else does kevster play?

clear crane
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Everything

static turret
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2-2 lol

clear crane
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Flex DPS and hitscan. He does it all

static turret
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Glad better on control

clear crane
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I wonder if O2Boss has interest in coaching in OWL

idle beacon
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how would they fix it, akashra? i guess the yt broadcasts are very delayed 🙂

clear crane
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I wonder if he would change his name

tropic herald
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Holy fuck

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Holy fuck

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That was beautiful by glads

idle beacon
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lol big00se

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totally exhausted ^^

vagrant jacinth
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we going all the way

upper niche
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@idle beacon Add a timecode to the video and json object that comes back with the score.

tropic herald
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How could the stream be so far behind that it’s a map behind?

vagrant jacinth
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monkee

upper niche
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Only update the HTML elements based on querying the data from the video stream and that timecode matching or being similar to the timestamp in the json. Easy.

tropic herald
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I smell cap

vagrant jacinth
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lmao

tropic herald
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The stream has always had a minute or so delay

clear crane
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They should just update it to 3-2 LA now anyways

tropic herald
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If that’s what you’re saying

clear crane
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only possible score

upper niche
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It's true. Los Angeles will win this one.

clear crane
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i wonder if these players on Val will be on it next year as well

tropic herald
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Mmm I think the good Los Angeles team wins this one

clear crane
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or Packing10

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I can see some team throwing big money at KSP

vagrant jacinth
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bring in lh already

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i like this val line up personally

upper niche
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KSP to Defiant?

clear crane
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Also can see Lastro dipping for money too

tawdry hamlet
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what a way to finish it matt just scared the shit out of me

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caster pls dont shout im high af

upper niche
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I notice TOR didn't play Surefour again.

clear crane
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yea hes pretty much retired

tawdry hamlet
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I like toronto I wish they had a better season

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Logix is a good hitscan

clear crane
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Toronto is the best "fan-favs" team on paper

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but too bad that doesn't translate to actual wins

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wat a nice boop

vagrant jacinth
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^^

clear crane
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its crazy how these sombras never get reveal from a spycheck

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while running right in front of the dva...

vagrant jacinth
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lmao ikr

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oof birdring

clear crane
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OGE is such a good non-Orisa MT player

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uh? wtf?

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are they overlapping?

upper niche
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yeah, they probably can't hear each other

vagrant jacinth
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yes lmao

upper niche
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they're probably muted to each other so have no idea they're talking over each other.

clear crane
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wow

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deleted

vagrant jacinth
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f

clear crane
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its really funny seeing these mainly hitscan players also take up junkrat duty

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Shockwave, KSP, Birdring(although he can play pretty much everything), Soon

idle beacon
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haven't seen junkrat in ages

tawdry hamlet
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saucy on rat

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that is true rat

clear crane
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BIG BRAIN

vagrant jacinth
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this map is where the junk usually comes out

clear crane
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wtf was that Space.....

vagrant jacinth
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birdring junk too stronk

upper niche
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Space keeps killing my Chrome window 😦

dreamy cave
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um

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is anyone esle getting a error

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?

upper niche
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yep heh

clear crane
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lol Rein Mcgravy

dreamy cave
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unexpected errpr

raw ermine
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gg

dreamy cave
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wtf

tropic herald
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ggs

tawdry hamlet
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poggers

tropic herald
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Lets go@

upper niche
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Chrome refuses to believe the result.

idle beacon
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i knew glads would win

tawdry hamlet
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what is it with valiant and reign recently

tropic herald
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Glads win

tawdry hamlet
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just flopping over

upper niche
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Chrome insists the other team won, and won't accept defeat.

gloomy vector
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well im glad glads won

upper niche
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It's trying to deny LA of a win ;p

tawdry hamlet
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which la tho

upper niche
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You decide 😄

idle beacon
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LA Fusion

clear crane
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wait so top 5 get a week 1 buy?

gloomy vector
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LUL

upper niche
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bye, not buy.

gloomy vector
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i thought so

idle beacon
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Los Angeles Shock

gloomy vector
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is the picking happening now?

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or is it aftershow

upper niche
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Game 1 = 10 v (12 or 13). Game 2 = 11 v other team.

idle beacon
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what are they talkin

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was birdring having a bad season?

upper niche
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Game 3 = 6 v choice of the winner of those two games, or the 9th seed. 7th seed gets to chose from the remaining two, and and 8 gets whoever wasn't picked.

clear crane
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he was inconsistent

upper niche
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That then gives you your top 8, and then we go in to another joke of a highest-seed-randomizes bracket.

clear crane
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Birdring has always been pretty inconsistent

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but peak Birdring is arguably the top DPS in the world

upper niche
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I mean it's a fucking double elimination bracket ffs. Just seed them 1-8 straight.

gloomy vector
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well boston Houston rematch

clear crane
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its the drama

idle beacon
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birdring and fleta were from london, right?

clear crane
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they want fans to anticpate the selections

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lol

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Birdring and Profit

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Fleta was from Seoul

idle beacon
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oh ye profit

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where is fleta now?

gloomy vector
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nerds LUL

ornate rose
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Shanghai

upper niche
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Houston will pick Boston surely, so we'll get VAN v WAS for the other game.

clear crane
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Carrying Shanghai with Fearless

vagrant jacinth
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fleta is on shanghai now

idle beacon
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fleta is in SHD ??

clear crane
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actually no carrying

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but leading

thin kernel
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WAIT WHAT

idle beacon
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NO SHIT?

clear crane
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everyone is doing their part in shanghai

gloomy vector
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i know its not gonna happen but imagine if Houston make it to the semis/finals

true hound
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yes

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go outlaws

vagrant jacinth
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shanghai are insane

clear crane
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Moon is such a good coach

gloomy vector
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yeah dragons are prob gonna win this year

upper niche
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I can see Houston beating VAN, WAS and BOS... and they could beat DAL at a pinch.

clear crane
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idk what the fuck happened with him and Val in the beginning of S2

gloomy vector
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so void mvp?

upper niche
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Maybe TOR too.

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so yeah, I could see HOU making the top 8...

clear crane
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I dont think Orisa is gonna be meta

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so they got a bigger handicap at MT

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unless Ball is played

upper niche
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OWL players I've heard talking don't think Hog will be meta

gloomy vector
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unless the bring Muma Monkey Pepega

clear crane
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GIMMIE MUMA

vagrant jacinth
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if ball is played chengdu about to start stomping

clear crane
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Just gimmie the Linkzr Muma duo once more

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I can see both of them retiring at the end of this season

idle beacon
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ROFL

vagrant jacinth
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yes pls

gloomy vector
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lets get boink in play too OmegaLUL

idle beacon
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i know you know what i'm doing, you can hear it .. what a bad teabagging joke xD

gloomy vector
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or matt

clear crane
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o i forgot hes still on the team

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playoffs are in 2 weeks right?

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so nothing next week

gloomy vector
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i think so

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unless its 3rd tier/2nd tier matches

idle beacon
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was custa an original enVy member?

vagrant jacinth
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playoffs are in 2 weeks right?
@clear crane i believe so yeah

clear crane
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dont think custa was ever on envy

upper niche
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Surely they need the playoffs to start next weekend. There's not enough time to wait another week.

clear crane
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hes too positive for envy

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and they are only allow one postive guy

upper niche
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Hey, remember, Dallas was the team of Taimou and xQc.

vagrant jacinth
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custa good, i like custa

upper niche
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That's enough toxicity and homophobia for the whole league in one team.

digital cloud
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Taimou was homophobic?

gloomy vector
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pvc wasnt a homophob

digital cloud
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since when?

tropic herald
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Don’t forget Dallas had HarryHook too

gloomy vector
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had is the key

clear crane
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taimous has said some pretty homophobic slurs before

vagrant jacinth
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oof

clear crane
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i've never heard anything negative of xqc OUTSIDE of his streams tho

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but his streaming life influenced too much

gloomy vector
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yeah but pvc told muma to suck his balls or something

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but it was a joke

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oh and that he like it

upper niche
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@digital cloud He got fined by the league what, twice for his comments?

tropic herald
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That wasn’t even why he got kicked

upper niche
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I think he was even suspended at one point?

tropic herald
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Well it was kinda

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He got fined for being toxic early

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Then fined for the comment to Muma

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Then suspended for TriHard 7

digital cloud
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when did Taimou get fined?

tropic herald
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Then Dallas said fuck you and dropped him

gloomy vector
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no i wasnt saying he was kicked for that i was saying the homophob thing

true hound
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@digital cloud only during apex

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But Taimou has done a couple of bad things

digital cloud
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so why did he say during league?

clear crane
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thats the thing

upper niche
clear crane
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the trihard 7 thing wasnte ven that bad i think

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and it was mainly on his stream

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he shuda known better

gloomy vector
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yeah

upper niche
tropic herald
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It wasn’t bad just taken out of context

clear crane
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but in terms of just being a bad teammate? i never heard anything negative of that sort with xqc

true hound
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yh Taimou got fined once in OWL and then a few times in apex I recall

gloomy vector
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yeah i havent either

true hound
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I’m p sure they all liked him (xqc)

tropic herald
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Which guy was the one that got warned for pepe memes?

digital cloud
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I never even remembered Taimou being mentioned then, only xqc

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guess it got a bit buried

gloomy vector
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ill be honest i forgot about the trihex thing

true hound
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Pepe memes? Silk thread

digital cloud
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by xqc's thing being so bullshit

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literally everyone uses pepe, white supremacists or no, that sort of thing is stupid

tropic herald
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he used a hello symbol

gloomy vector
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LUL danteh

tropic herald
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And got rolled

upper niche
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hah. in the same google search there's four other events where Taimou was fined.

clear crane
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Pepe should be allowed

vagrant jacinth
clear crane
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wtf is the negative with a damn frog

digital cloud
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apparently it used to be memed by white supremacists for a while

gloomy vector
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the pepe thing was because older people thought it was a symbol of hate that was so dumb

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alot of players got fined for the pepe thing

clear crane
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but thats the thing

digital cloud
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4chan did it as a prank

upper niche
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Punk is an Aussie not a Kiwi right?

digital cloud
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well, it was partly 4chan

clear crane
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ur letting outside influence just make u think its a bad symbol lmao

dreamy cave
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kiwi??

vagrant jacinth
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punks aussie yeah

tropic herald
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Punk is Aussie

upper niche
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@dreamy cave New Zealander

clear crane
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PES_Okay like the okay symbol... doesnt stand for white power... but thats another story

idle beacon
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i thought it's about the ehm

upper niche
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Yeah. The accent is a dead giveaway.

idle beacon
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seedings or whatever

digital cloud
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that was also a 4chan thing

idle beacon
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oh

dreamy cave
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yo

gloomy vector
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well next thursday is gonna be hype

digital cloud
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4chan thinks making symbols into "hate" ones is funny

clear crane
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wats thurs

dreamy cave
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justice vs titans will b a good shit show

gloomy vector
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its the start of the playoffs

clear crane
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oh it starts on thurs?

idle beacon
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i hope ark will win

clear crane
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i think justice rolls titans

gloomy vector
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yeah for the tier 3

vagrant jacinth
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zp talking fax

idle beacon
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lol custa, kick that cat out

gloomy vector
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yes i agree with zp

vagrant jacinth
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same lmaoo

idle beacon
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he's talkin.. facts ?

gloomy vector
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ive never seen flubby

clear crane
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Decay can keep Shockwave in check and then the rest of Justice should be better den Titans

idle beacon
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what is it with this neanthertaler languages

vagrant jacinth
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for the sake of houston fans, no outlul shenanigans pls

gloomy vector
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i know

dreamy cave
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wow humble :0

idle beacon
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oh ark 😄

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hey

vagrant jacinth
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decay gotta carry

dreamy cave
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hes so humble its aggrivating

gloomy vector
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when you are lower bracket you kinda have to be humble

idle beacon
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he can't keep his hands chilled

dreamy cave
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nah man. meme all the way

idle beacon
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i bet he has mental issues

dreamy cave
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bruh wth

gloomy vector
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well you be humble while memeing

clear crane
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the hell kind of assumption is that -_-

vagrant jacinth
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lol what

idle beacon
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he looks like he is already pissed off about talking about this stuff

true hound
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bruh

vagrant jacinth
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uhh

dreamy cave
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right, dont make assumptions based on ppls hands, hes probably nervious

true hound
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Reddit armchair psychology moment

clear crane
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I think Justice win 3-1

idle beacon
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ark is also nervous

upper niche
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Ark's got that crackly-fighter-jet microphone going, good man 😄

vagrant jacinth
gloomy vector
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they goal is to let decay carry LUL

vagrant jacinth
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it'll be 3-2 shitshow i bet

gloomy vector
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their

vagrant jacinth
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just one big meme

dreamy cave
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i want titans to win

true hound
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go pogwave

clear crane
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Technically, Justice could have signed like 4 players past the deadline righht?

idle beacon
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where was decay before?

gloomy vector
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i dont

upper niche
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Washington were supposed to be good this year... and then they weren't :/

true hound
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pogwave is a god gamer

clear crane
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actually 3

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cause 2 retired and 1 with visa issues

vagrant jacinth
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i'd also go titans if i had to pick a side

true hound
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just drop roar

gloomy vector
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i want justice to win 3-0 so the shockwave fan boys will be a little less annoying

true hound
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oi

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being a shockwave fanboy is ok

dreamy cave
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justice finally has good dps but i dont think itll be enough for them to win

true hound
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he’s too good

gloomy vector
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no

upper niche
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The Visa issue thing is going to continue to be a problem while esports aren't seen as a 'real' sport and franchises fill regional teams with people from other areas.

true hound
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decays hard carry is countered by roar throwing

gloomy vector
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i have to respectfully disagree

clear crane
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Wasnt it only an issue this year cause of covid

upper niche
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This is the problem with not having development series.

idle beacon
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what dpes TOR stand for?

upper niche
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Toronto Defiant.

tropic herald
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Wait

idle beacon
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😮

gloomy vector
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omg imagine corey and decay on same team

true hound
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oh god oh fuck

idle beacon
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i dont get it.

true hound
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thatd be nasty

vagrant jacinth
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decays hard carry is countered by roar throwing
@true hound balances it out, justice lose

clear crane
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I think theres too much Corey hype

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he popped off for like.. 2 months

gloomy vector
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true

clear crane
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and thats it

gloomy vector
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but he is a good player

upper niche
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I just do not see the need for them to have these knockout matches.

dreamy cave
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they cant tho, because decay plays hitscan and genji right? cory is also hitscan. most theyll do is ash widow together

gloomy vector
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not the best but good

clear crane
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he was trash all of GOATs (which is not his own fault at all), and then he popped off on Hanzo

upper niche
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Corey will play whatever is meta in Valorant

clear crane
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and then he wasnt too good early this year

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I dont see the hype

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is it cause hes NA?

gloomy vector
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no he was good in the OWWC

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i think a lot of the hype comes from that

clear crane
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I think of OWWC as more of just exhibition

dreamy cave
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i didnt see last years world cup but ill watch this years

clear crane
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dont think theres one this year haha

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unless u want 200 ping matches

tropic herald
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OWWC is probably not happening

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Which is okay

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Who cares about it

gloomy vector
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yeah so that means USA still is the champ PepeLaugh

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i like watching it it just a fun tourney

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its like the widow tourney during the all star match

true hound
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tbf Corey didn’t look too hot because he wasn’t into the game at all by start of szn (Stratus said this I believe)

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by then he def was burnt out of OW and had his eyes on valorant

vagrant jacinth
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reinforce ZaryaLUL

dreamy cave
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30$ says hunters makes it pretty far in the bracket

vagrant jacinth
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i wanna see it ngl

true hound
clear crane
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what a season

gloomy vector
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yeah same but doubt it

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yeah over all good season

clear crane
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lol wtf?

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dpei going all in

dreamy cave
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who is that? dpei?

upper niche
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ugh, September 3rd, a week off? sigh.

gloomy vector
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what why is dpei so toxic LUL

dreamy cave
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who is dpei

upper niche
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How are they gonna do 19 matches in 3 weeks? They need two clear weekends for quarantine and travel before the 2nd weekend of October

vagrant jacinth
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lmao wooow

gloomy vector
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he is head coach

vagrant jacinth
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^^

dreamy cave
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whos choach? glads?

vagrant jacinth
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glads yeah

gloomy vector
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yes

tropic herald
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At least ANS got the final blow record now

dreamy cave
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ehh

tropic herald
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After that good performance I think the GM of the glads is gonna give a good talk to the HC of the glads

clear crane
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dpei has been pretty ass all year

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wonder if they re-sign him

tropic herald
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I think they’ll ask the GM for his word on dpei

clear crane
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also that tweet

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so packing10 doesnt attend owl scrims anymore?

tropic herald
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Packing10 is the GM of valiant, head coach of valiant and he coaches the valorant team

clear crane
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so hes splitting work between immortals team and the VAL

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and dpei has inside info on this that he doesnt attend VAL scrims?

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lol

tropic herald
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It’s probably not hard to find out

clear crane
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well im guessing if LAG and LAV scrim against each other and hes not there

gloomy vector
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yeah thats good spec

tropic herald
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I think it’s power rankings time Bc the regular season ended

clear crane
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so wat team is the best val team now

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i keep hearing G2 and TSM

true hound
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I think sentinels and tsm

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idk

gloomy vector
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sen and G2

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but sen is US and G2 is europe

clear crane
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is Faze any good lol

gloomy vector
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meh

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no bad but others are better

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not

tropic herald
gloomy vector
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well london would have done a little if they got to do the US regions

vagrant jacinth
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understandable

agile pewter
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wait

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are we below the Justice, Fuel, and Defiant after having 2-3 games against the Eternal and Shock

balmy wolf
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are we talking about london?

agile pewter
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no Reign

balmy wolf
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oh sorry

tropic herald
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You’re lucky you aren’t below Titans

agile pewter
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.

balmy wolf
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well losing against titans says a lot

agile pewter
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we almost beat the Eternal and Shock

tropic herald
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But did you win?

balmy wolf
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u didnt win tho

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philly had more maps 5s than eternal or shock

tropic herald
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Also what team did you lose to again?

balmy wolf
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yet their still a top team

agile pewter
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how many other teams above us have brought it close to that

tropic herald
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How many teams above you got 3-1ed by Titans

agile pewter
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eh that is true

balmy wolf
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u also have to remember, almost all teams are focusing on the live patch rn for scrims

tropic herald
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Atlanta was focusing on this one

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They wanted to keep 5th

balmy wolf
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yea it was way more important for reign

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but since glads and la turn it up they couldnt stay in the top 5

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and losing to titans didnt help much

tropic herald
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Glads got hot

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I look forward to seeing them in playoffs

vagrant jacinth
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Same same

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Playoffs gonna be good

tropic herald
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The only team I think that is absolutely guaranteed a top 4 finish at this point is Shanghai so that makes NA super enjoyable Bc I cannot tell you who is going to Korea

balmy wolf
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if dive is still meta after this patch, the i expect dragons to sweep through the bracket again

tropic herald
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dive is meta still

hot heart
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Depending on what kind of dive yeah

tropic herald
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and im fairly certain its winston dva

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that will be played

hot heart
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If its Winston dva

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It has to be shock shanghai finals

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Two of the best winstons in the game

tropic herald
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i dont think shock are super dominant on dive

#

other teams like mayhem philly and gladiators have a nasty dive

hot heart
#

Shanghai have this presence

tropic herald
#

shanghai have confidence backed up by their insane mechanical skill

#

any of their starting 6 could clutch any fight

hot heart
#

It reminds me of last years shock

#

They could honestly tear through playoffs

balmy wolf
#

the big thing that separates dragons from others in a dive mirror is lips sombra

#

best sombra by a mile

hot heart
#

Yeah

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If sombra is meta

#

Shanghai win

tropic herald
#

sombra is going to less prevelant in playoffs but still good i think

balmy wolf
#

in a dive comp?

#

highly unlikely

tropic herald
#

the sombra is definently picked because of double shield being a thing

balmy wolf
#

even in dive mirros u run sombra

tropic herald
#

bc they could whip out double shield whenever

#

actually even in dive mirrors you dont have sombra mirroring most of the time

#

only reason you saw sombra mirrors is bc tracer is banned

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but since there is no double shield

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or a lot less of it the sombra isnt needed

#

you can just go ashe/widow tracer/echo

balmy wolf
#

both countdown cups say otherwise

tropic herald
#

yes but what comp was available to be played anytime during countdown?

balmy wolf
#

there are no pools in the touranments

#

in dive mirrors we saw tracer/sombra in apac, in na we saw sombra/genji

tropic herald
#

im just saying the sombra isnt there bc of the comp that your team is plalying

#

the sombra is there for the potential the enemy plays double shield

balmy wolf
#

yes thats true but sombra as a dive dps fits really well

#

sombra as a dps soft counters everything

tropic herald
#

she fits adn will be played

#

but i think tracer is better

balmy wolf
#

sombra/tracer can be played and was played

tropic herald
#

it will be

#

however

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it will not be most played

#

compared to ashe tracer or widow tracer

balmy wolf
#

theres always that

#

but your ult game is less powerful

tropic herald
#

what are you emping in the dive mirror

balmy wolf
#

tanks most of the time

tropic herald
#

yeah but you get emp

#

which you dont really need

#

and lose out on pick potential or having a tracer

#

i dont think the tradeoff is worth at least in a dive mirror

balmy wolf
#

all i see in the end is busted hitscan taking over the game

#

expect maybe for echo who may get some playtime

tropic herald
#

yeah its gonna be double hitscan most of the time

#

along with winston dva

#

and probably ana mercy

balmy wolf
#

remember when we all thought echo was the best dps but we were wrong

#

it was ashe

tropic herald
#

some maps you can force rein sig

#

echo was pretty good on release but she got good nerfs

#

and her hitbox is massive

#

so she gets shot down easy

balmy wolf
#

the only nerf i remember that was given to her was the beam nerf

#

nothing else got changed with her after that

#

but ashe and widow being busted didnt help her

#

even if echos burst was extremely high

tropic herald
#

she had

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the super jump removed

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stickies damage nerfed

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and the beam nerf

#

echo has the issue of her being bad without brig armor and also her pick potential is largely based off cooldowns

#

while the other good heroes: genji ashe tracer widow could just use primaries

#

and did not rely on armor from brig

balmy wolf
#

oh yea cant forget brig made all dps busted

#

especially tracer and genji

tropic herald
#

i think echo misses armor the most

primal minnow
#

Nah

tropic herald
#

followed by tracer

primal minnow
#

It’s definitely tracer who needed that armour, it made her more sustainable in flanks

tropic herald
#

but echo went from meta to gone tracer is still here

balmy wolf
#

i mean if you're good at tracer shes still one of the best dps to played

tropic herald
#

yeah tracers movement is just so good

primal minnow
#

Echo went out of meta when the brig armour nerfs hadn’t even happened so.

balmy wolf
#

her skill ceiling is almost non existent

#

we saw shock almost beat paris with tracer against a busted genji

tropic herald
#

echo went out of meta due to genji becoming god and stayed out after armor was gone but tracer was there the whole time

balmy wolf
#

tracer/widow had been main stay dps for a very long time

#

even if they werent meta

tropic herald
#

both heroes will always be good just off design

#

unless they both get shat on in a patch they will stay

balmy wolf
#

well their both mechanically heavy dps with a near limitless ceiling in terms of skill

#

so they were always gonna be good

#

man all this talk about widow and tracer makes me miss pine

tropic herald
#

but we have ans

balmy wolf
#

pine would be amazing in this season, double HS everywhere

#

granted i doubt his widow would be able to do the shit he did in season 1

#

but man he was cracked

tropic herald
#

looking back on owl s1

#

it was pretty low skill level

#

compared to now

balmy wolf
#

of course it was

tropic herald
#

s1 nyxl wouldnt even be mid table i think

hot heart
#

Season 1 NYXL

balmy wolf
#

but it was still cool to see the coordination teams had been back then

hot heart
#

Maybe

#

ATL level

balmy wolf
#

nah

#

they were still top tier

#

look at season 2

hot heart
#

I dont feel like they'd be top tier in s3

tropic herald
#

im saying this off the fact that we have basically the same team rn with upgrades but current nyxl are mid table

balmy wolf
#

in this season yea

#

not top 3

#

but the last 2 season they were definitely top tier

tropic herald
#

i mean

#

i guess they were alright last season

#

i cant think of a stage where i thought they were top of the top

balmy wolf
#

Ny were just below shock and titans

#

but i think they had 2 perfect stages

#

but shock and titans were just more dominant in goats

#

the only time NY was considered mid tier in season 2 was in stage 4

#

but once playoffs came in they popped off

tropic herald
#

oh yeah i forgot

#

ny was shit in stage 4

#

you know its bad when you were below paris

balmy wolf
#

yep

#

but man NY came up with the bastion strat in playoffs i believe

tropic herald
#

wow look at stage 2 last year

#

7 teams went 5-2

#

also casual flex by sfs

balmy wolf
#

hunters with the 3-4 every stage until stage 4

#

4-3

#

amazing turnaround

tropic herald
#

want to talk about a turnaround?

#

atlanta got lucky af

#

4-3

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3-4

#

2-5

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7-0

balmy wolf
#

too bad their playoff run was shortlived

tropic herald
#

they made waves too

#

then got smacked

balmy wolf
#

that spark match where they got rolled on numbani

#

and then reign players basically knew it was over and started laughing at the absurdity of it

tropic herald
#

Spark actually sat them down and Reign just kinda died

balmy wolf
#

the greatest thing to come out of s2 was that bastion won the grand finals

#

fucking bastion of all heroes

hot heart
#

If there was any character that I'd like to see win a team the grand finals

#

It's Bastion

next mesa
#

Wait

#

Shock and reign 3-2?

#

Wtf?

#

Yoyoyo

#

Wtf

#

What happen

true hound
#

u missin out

#

ATL took Havana close

#

KR was taken very smoothly by ATL

#

shock didn’t complete the map and ATL completed with like 3 min in the time bank

#

However shock got hanamura aka they win by default (19-0 btw)

#

when it came to control it was 100-99, then 100-40 (?), then In round 3 shock beat the shit out of ATL and 100-0’d

balmy wolf
#

Ans pulled out aim bot last round of illios

forest raven
#

Feel like Shock gonna get boomed by Philly/Shanghai come playoffs

digital cloud
#

seems like wishful thinking

#

Shanghai maybe, but Shock rolls Philly

hot heart
#

Shock dont get boomed in playoffs

#

Shanghai wont get rolled

#

I cant see it

digital cloud
#

I don't think we saw Titans getting rolled Grand Finals either

feral zodiac
#

Nah a lot of people still saw it happening

#

Shock were fucking insane back then

#

And no one held a candle

digital cloud
#

there is no way you could have reasonably expected Shock to destroy them like that though, pretty much every match they had had was close and Titans looked decent coming into it

hot heart
#

What has been the highlest level of play

#

We've ever seen

digital cloud
#

only thing that comes to mind for me would either be the first few times shock and titans fought, or shock vs atlanta during the final tourney last year

forest raven
#

Shock and titans goats

#

Potentially shanghai, depends how they stack up to NA

hot heart
#

Shanghai are the best by far in APAC

#

In NA they might not be the best by far

#

But

#

They're the best

#

In the whole league

tropic herald
#

Then again which region is better

#

And which team is getting boosted by their region

#

We don’t know

edgy tinsel
#

Paris getting boosted by their region

#

Now that genji isnt meta

hot heart
#

Sp9rk1e just boosting paris sometimes ngl

cobalt spoke
#

But is paris the best? No

worn falcon
#

a bit 🐢 but feelsryujehongman :(

raw ermine
#

Q:Your biggest worry right now?

A:Should I keep gaming or should I quit

hot heart
#

?

#

I read this chat for about two seconds then i see that lmao

mint turtle
#

@balmy wolf can you not

hot heart
#

And its gone

#

We've preserved this Christian channel

#

Also

#

Your pfp is cool @mint turtle

#

Joji is great

mint turtle
#

big true

true hound
#

ye

hot heart
#

Personally i think gimme love was his best

#

Or maybe

#

Nvm

#

Run is better

#

Imo

mint turtle
#

gimme love/ you suck charlie are my 2 favs

hot heart
#

The lore is also cool

#

Its like

#

After credits to a marvel movie

#

All of the after credits scenes

#

Were leading up to avengers infinity war

tropic herald
#

Big if true

#

Wait why I am in esports

#

And why is Charles here

hot heart
#

I

#

Idk

true hound
#

lmao

hot heart
#

And yeah

#

You suck Charlie is great to just vibe

#

Chloe burbank vol.1 was just vibes

#

Even though it wasnt finished

edgy tinsel
#

But is paris the best? No
@cobalt spoke no

clear crane
#

Paris is GOAT peepoTeaMad

hot heart
#

If only sadge

cobalt spoke
#

Shock is better then whatever the #2 apac team will be

#

Shocks only real obstacle is shanghai

primal bobcat
#

#BringBackDive

true hound
#

Dive is back

#

maybe

opaque ginkgo
#

What if fusion don't choke ad beat shock

#

That would be sad

karmic grotto
#

They already did

#

And they will do it again

cobalt spoke
#

Shock is better than fusion, fusion won because shock choked and had a bad read on the meta, not because fusion was good or not choking

feral zodiac
#

Fusion did well in countdown cup against shock

cobalt spoke
#

4-2 is good

#

But not good enough

feral zodiac
#

Well yes

#

But it shows that there's potential there

#

Honestly

#

I see Chengdu beating shock if they face each other

#

Out of every upset

#

I feel like that's the one I see happening the most

cobalt spoke
#

If fusion come in and 3-0 shock when all of there other matches over the history have been close, then shock just did something really wrong

feral zodiac
#

Or fusion did something really really right

#

But yeah I can't see anyone 3-0ing full strength shock rn

#

Expect possibly Shanghai on a really good day

cobalt spoke
#

Did you watch that match? Shock werent preforming, ans was off because of ranked stuff, the team was slightly boomed

feral zodiac
#

Imagine shanghai lose to someone like paris now

#

And everyone is like well shit

cobalt spoke
#

In a double elimination tourney shock is garunteed to go to finals

digital cloud
#

ok, yubo, I know shock is as hyped as anyone else is, but ans being off "because of ranked stuff" and the team was "slighly boomed" sounds like an excuse

#

people can beat Shock

#

Shock is just really really good

cobalt spoke
#

They had a really bad read on the meta, a team cant 3-0 peak shock, and that wasnt peak shock

digital cloud
#

excuses

feral zodiac
#

You can say the same about Shanghai rn lol

cobalt spoke
#

Why hasnt shock been 3-0d in the last 2 year then.

#

?

feral zodiac
#

A team can't 3-0 peak shanghai

digital cloud
#

because they are a good team

#

just because it hasn't happened doesn't mean it can't

feral zodiac
#

Why hasnt shock been 3-0d in the last 2 year then.
@cobalt spoke fusion vs shock lul

#

Didn't glads do it as well

cobalt spoke
#

Yea, shock had 1 dip, in 2 years

feral zodiac
#

Valiant was 3-1 wasn't it

#

Or did they 3-0 shock as well

cobalt spoke
#

Idk

digital cloud
#

3-1 pretty sure

feral zodiac
#

Ye

#

But still, 3-0 to glads

digital cloud
#

ok, regardless, my point is Shock isn

#

isn't Jesus*

cobalt spoke
#

They arent

feral zodiac
#

I agree

digital cloud
#

they don't make excuses for their loss, they get better and fuck the dudes that beat them

feral zodiac
#

They've been put on a holy pedestal by a lot of people since last season

#

And no offence to shock fans

#

But a lot of them are really annoying

digital cloud
#

a lot make a ton of excuses for them

feral zodiac
#

Yeah

digital cloud
#

as a Houston fan, I think they approach us in awfulness

#

actually, they are worse mostly

#

they bad ones, that is

#

there are good ones

feral zodiac
#

'Well peak shock wouldn't lose' is never an argument

cobalt spoke
#

If shock was actually bad it wouldnt be 3-0 it would be 3-2, shock playing well doesnt lose like that

feral zodiac
#

How do you know

#

For certain

cobalt spoke
#

What was wrong to make them lose 3-0? Idk, but something was

feral zodiac
#

That's not an argument lol

digital cloud
#

or the other team just beat them

cobalt spoke
#

Philly played well, carpe played really well

#

But it wouldve been closer if shock was at there peak, and that wasnt peak shock

feral zodiac
#

Ok

#

They still lost

#

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

cobalt spoke
#

Yea

feral zodiac
#

I get what you're saying though

cobalt spoke
#

Actually 🤓 ☝️ ANS was having a fued with king hydron, did you see the end of his stream that day? He was boomed

digital cloud
#

if the sun hadn't been in their eyes, if they had only adjusted to the meta better, if it wasn't for not being on LAN, if they hadn't been voodoo cursed by a witch

#

IF ONLY

feral zodiac
#

If only ans had a 100% scoped crit accuracy

cobalt spoke
#

True but still

#

Shock has won every game after that, even if against lower level teams

digital cloud
#

do you think that shock made excuses afterwards?

cobalt spoke
#

No

digital cloud
#

so why do you think that it is a legitimate argument here?

cobalt spoke
#

Actually yea, crusty said they had a bad read on the meta, they changed there strats just for this weak

digital cloud
#

anyone can have a bad read

#

that is not an excuse

#

that is admitting they screwed up

cobalt spoke
#

They did screw up

#

Does peak shock screw up like that though?

digital cloud
#

let me spell this out

#

that was

#

peak shock

#

peak shock lost

cobalt spoke
#

No it wasnt

digital cloud
#

so can peak shock ever lose in your eyes?

#

every time shock loses

#

it won't have been peak shock

cobalt spoke
#

Yea

digital cloud
#

will it

cobalt spoke
#

But have they lost 3-0 this year yet?

digital cloud
#

this conversation is no longer going anywhere. I bid you good day

cobalt spoke
#

Ok

#

Wrong but ok

digital cloud
#

a lot make a ton of excuses for them
@digital cloud

#

just leaving that here

next mesa
#

@cobalt spoke they got swept by fusion

#

literally just like 2 weeks ago

#

lol what

digital cloud
#

he is one of the "fans"

#

I don't think it will help

#

don't waste your time

next mesa
#

they are the ones that makes excuses for loses

edgy tinsel
#

i dont think that was peak shock tbh - we all know peak shock and its far from that - we said genji meta was their weakest but i feel like this may actually be their weakest meta

#

because they had genji players already

#

they dont have a renowned sombra

#

like heesu , lip , etc etc

next mesa
#

the results don't change

#

you have to deal with it

digital cloud
#

so it wasn't peak shock

#

because they had no good sombra players?

#

that is an incredibly bad argument

#

also sort of ironic they traded away Danteh, one of the top sombras

edgy tinsel
#

I mean danteh would've never saw playtime even now tbh, and hows that ironic, sombra was never even considered meta when they traded him?

#

And also yes, if none of your players are proficient on a role, you're not going to be playing at your peak

raw ermine
digital cloud
#

it is ironic that they dumped a potentially useful player. and saying they are not at peak is useless when it is the same players

edgy tinsel
#

You can have the same players, but if they are on a new role than they're not that good at , they wont be playing their best

#

that's literally common sense

digital cloud
#

then don't play that

#

it doesn't make it not peak, it makes it not your meta

#

they are at peak if they played the best they could possibly do

#

if it is only peak when the meta benefits them, then the argument is worthless

next mesa
#

yeah lol

digital cloud
#

"it isn't our meta, GuEsS wE wOn'T pLaY"

swift moth
#

I mean certain teams are naturally good and bad in certain metas

#

paris in a meta that lets them run sp9rk1e genji is going to be scary as opposed to sp9rk1e in brig jail

#

but then the solution should be just not to mirror the meta and try to force the comp you want

jagged crater
#

omg that widow nerf tho

raw ermine
#

falloff for hier

#

wow

#

now ana is the only hitscan with no falloff LMAO

#

I can see the direct they're going in which is good

#

nerf all damage, nerf mass healing

unborn grove
#

is the overwatch league only on pc?

feral zodiac
#

Wait a widow nerf?

#

Where

#

@jagged crater

#

Nvm

jagged crater
#

ana new sniper

digital cloud
#

the widow nerf is practically a non factor

#

60 meters is a huge amount of leeway

raw ermine
#

OWL is only on PC

tropic herald
#

Every map you play widow over an Ashe

#

60-85 is not a non factor

#

Havana Volskaya Junkertown Ruins Downtown what else

#

Rialto

cobalt spoke
#

I think we are gonna see winston zarya, ball zaeya, and winston dva next patch in owl

worn falcon
#

LOL

next mesa
#

ans top tier

edgy tinsel
balmy wolf
#

90 final blows that match

next mesa
#

im worried that we will have an underwhelming one sided grand finals

#

having 2 regions not play eachother for 2 months and then just suddenly play

#

no power rankings

balmy wolf
#

that was basically the last 2 grand finals

#

they werent close at all

#

at least fusion took 1 map away from london

true hound
#

seeing profit was fun af tho

next mesa
#

but I don't think we expected the shock sweep

#

at least I didn't

raw ermine
#

as do I

#

Fearless Vs Smurf dive will be nuts

next mesa
#

dragons sweep shock 4-0

raw ermine
#

||Posted in 2017||

next mesa
#

bro

#

I just realized profit was on widow

#

stop

#

can we get fits back on hitscan please

#

does illicit play sombra

worn falcon
viral veldt
#

I lost

true hound
#

maketa

viral veldt
raw ermine
#

DDLC is one of my favourite games

#

but

#

wtf

viral veldt
#

I've never played it

raw ermine
#

oh go

#

He shaved his legs for it

#

I think

viral veldt
#

Apparently the creaters are making a new game linked to it

raw ermine
#

I hope so

#

I have been waiting 3 years

viral veldt
#

Watch game theorys videos on it

worn falcon
#

First Fissure with Frozen, now Super with ddlc

raw ermine
#

oh that

#

that video

worn falcon
#

Damn MT

raw ermine
#

I am pretty sure is BS

viral veldt
#

Ah kk

raw ermine
#

anyway

#

this is cursed

warped ledge
#

I hate reinforce

#

He always be putting fusion 2nd or 3rd. Not this time

karmic grotto
#

💩

upper niche
#

Even OWL had to rig and change the way they calculate win percentage to put fusion 1st ;p

#

(I say this while wearing a Fusion tee, btw)

balmy wolf
#

If its a one sided finals is it gonna be shock, philly or shanghai that make it one sided?

#

I think we all know those are the 3 current ones thatll end up there

#

maybe paris

upper niche
#

I don't think Shock will be in the final.

balmy wolf
#

Idk

#

They might be there but I dont think theyll win

#

Scripted they dont want them to win 2 years in a row

upper niche
#

Imagine the internet losing its shit if the final is like GZC v PHI

balmy wolf
#

Bruh

#

NYC VS ATL

upper niche
#

HZS v PAR 😄

#

Would anyone even watch that? lol

balmy wolf
#

CHENGDU VS DALLAS

#

Bruh

#

Its dallas's time

#

😎

#

After 3 years of being shit

hot heart
#

Chengdu

#

boston

#

Finals

balmy wolf
#

bruh

hot heart
#

I would Watch it

balmy wolf
#

Boston finally pulls out the guns

#

Doxx the enemy teams

#

gg

hot heart
#

They FF

#

Ez

balmy wolf
#

All over

#

Houston vs London

#

finals

#

Nah I feel like itll be shock or philly vs shanghai fr

#

And shanghai lets just say...

#

Its gonna be like shock vs titans finals last season

#

4-0

hot heart
#

Probably not

#

Shock practicing live patch rn

#

And if hog is meta

#

Which he will be

#

Choi is going to fuck

upper niche
#

hog won't be meta

vagrant jacinth
#

Mattsuki PogChimp

viral veldt
#

I loost

edgy tinsel
#

hog won't be meta
@upper niche considering space has already said hog will most likely be played

#

he probably will

upper niche
#

Other OWL players have said he won't. So we'll see.

plush grail
#

Honestly kinda want it to be meta for a little while

#

but then again zarya + hog is not gonna work in owl

#

it'll work for like 1 fight and then the enemy dps switch to reaper and widow

#

and reaper just farms the hog and widow just farms the unprotected backline

tropic herald
raw ermine
#

this appears in my nightmares

#

And I only recently noticed he put on lipstick for this

#

idk if natsuki wears lipstick

karmic grotto
hot heart
#

I'd fuck mattsuki

#

Who wouldn't

forest raven
#

Same

hot heart
#

THOSE LEGS

#

I just saw

#

The clip

#

I lost

swift moth
#

kreygasm

clear crane
#

😮 does this mean Paris wont call him up? sad

edgy tinsel
#

no

#

it just means hes probably looking to see what team will give him the most money

idle forge
#

Too everyone who believes that shock will beat shangai based of off choi’s hog, dont forget about the shangai secret weapon, geguri

plush grail
#

idk man if shock doesn't step up the finals will probably be philly vs dragons

#

first losing 3-0 to phily

#

and barely managing to win against atlanta 3-2

idle forge
#

True true

#

lets just hope that philly finally gets the cup

plush grail
#

idk man

#

I really think the dragons are gonna win it all

idle forge
#

lets be real, we all know boston basically won already

little island
#

true

cloud latch
#

fax chex will carry all of their playoff games

plush grail
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sorry boston fans but to win the playoffs you need to actually win games

sullen berry
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I'm telling you Grand Finals MVP is going to be Jerry

plush grail
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in the off season so many teams are going to be released and replaced

next mesa
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wtf

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I had no idea cr0ng was this hot

jagged crater
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why is super dressed like a girl? Did he make a bet or something?

digital cloud
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I think it might be photoshopped, and I believe it is a meme reference to doki doki literature club

jagged crater
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doesnt look shopped to me

next mesa
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its not

jagged crater
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but was this a response to something, who told him to do this?

digital cloud
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maybe he just wanted to then, idk

next mesa
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he was dressed like a girl

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He did a whole stream

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it was great

jagged crater
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but why!?

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What prompted this

digital cloud
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maybe the stream wanted him to

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why are you so hung up on it

jagged crater
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im just wondering why he did it tho

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did someone donate thousand dollars for this

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It's really funny tho

tulip shore
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for all stars votes i think