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lmao remember this
ans u thrower
questionable
idk why ans suddenly became a starter
winnable
sinatra retired
he never really started
come on ATL
cause he is insane
idk man when ans was in he lost 3-0 to philly
wasnt he playing sombra?
LETS GOOO
big
idk man I don't watch sfs that much
noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
the matches i just so happened to watch had striker and rascal in
atlanta could actually win this
atl getting full held
nope
I hope not(I'm a huge shock fan btw)
I want to see atlanta do this
wat the fuck was tat
LETS GOOOOOOOOOOOOO
what fullhold???
that was like half a damn fight
and I wanna see how much this fucks up the ranking if a team goes from losing to the titans to beating the shock
Atlanta still has plenty of ways to lose
titans > shock xD
this is a closer game than I thought though

also, Titans is better rn than people give them credit for
ehhhh
besides beating reign, they are where i expected haha
i would argue titans are on washingtons level
idk man once washington starts to practice more together they could be top tier
free push?
if washington replace Roar with Mag and do nothing else, I can see them being top 10
legit roar is the weakest link
they let them cap and get themselves staggered
I've never seen or heard anything positive about roar sadly
true
i remember that one time he cleaned the point on koth
Roar was so good on KDP too
he makes the rest of his team look good in comparison
and then they got sweeped 10 seconds later
what a downfall
theres edison and choi
Roar was very good on KDP
Roar is prob the main reason Decay is there too tho
Wait holy shit
YOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOo
lol gg
wow
Shock???????????????
bruh wut
yoooo lmaooo
uhhh
???
weird
WHAT
nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
shock?
?
why the reign be roller coastering the last few weeks
yep shock
i just wanna say. atl just ruined their map streak on kings row
just be bad or good already
This is gonna be a repeat
what happend

of trhe playoffs lsat year
never been prouder of being an Atlanta fan
Atl beats Shock
yeah but that was a map 5
and then Shock goes on a murder's run
and Reign was significantly better than what we've seen this past szn
Shock are just getting themselves motivated
This is going to 5
true
and then Shock goes on a murder's run
@clear crane
WE BROKE THEIR KINGS ROW STREAK GUYS BIG POG
even still, how Reign last year cant be compared to how Rein is rn
isn't KR a very good rein map
cause Reign rn is scuffed
LET IT REIGN
KR is Shock's map
why the fuck didn't they play the rein one trick
Lmdao
we are the most inconsistent team I have ever seen
erster cracked
The Rein one trick got fucked by Sado last week haha
they didnt veen have to, id expect shock to body the fuck out of Atlanta, ESPECIALLY on their best map regardless of a Rein rush or dive
Edison carried
yessir
Y'all remember that?

Shock have been pretty bad today. ANS is either killing everything, or hard feeding
lmaooooo
what's the next map
Super did fine in the rein mirror vs sado
Lowkey made me love the titans so I remember it lmao
REIGN fucking loses 3-1 tot titans BUT WINS 2 MAPS AGAINST THE SHOCK
just when he went orisa he kinda flopped
titans are just on their 2nd underdog story
it's a 2cp right?
like I said
titans gonna win gf next year i bet my entire steam account
we are the most inconsistent team
titans next season are going to be insane I hope
houston is consistently dissapointing
no shock are!
Shock maybe a bit complacent lately
yeah
cockwave is massive
titans gonna win gf next year i bet my entire steam account
@true hound im gonna remember this
lul
same with Dallas, I think they will always be lower mid at best
Atlanta is either losing to bottom teams in NA or putting top teams in the region in checkmate
Houston is inconsistent, but always disappointing
This is just a really bad hero pool for Shock in fairness
shock should fuck around and sub super on
they're gonna drop a lot of players on vancouver and build a team around shockwave
FREE STEAM ACCOUNT!
i have never lost my steam account across all the bets ive made
https://twitter.com/MoeDeLisi/status/1297660809397645312 super's dad is fucking roasting SFS lmaoooo
ok
And also

lmaoo
These games have actually zero meaning
lmao
ayy I finally got 100 tokens
even still this is kinda wack
lmaoo
yeah but its always nice when Shock lose
id expect reign to get bodied even when Shock are sleeping while playing
and Atlanta win
considering Reign have just let everyone down
reign are so random I don't expect anything from them
btw that tracer bomb in that add was a 3k
as we are seeing
LET IT REIGN
pepelaugh
How do reign lose to titans but win against shock
if they sub erster out
SHOCK HAVE A RECORD OF 11-0 ON THIS MAP!
W
the ball is in out court now.
make that 11-1
lets see then
they lost KR vs philly last week
and including last season a 16-0
wait
their cracked on this map
saucy in nooooo
are you talking about Kings Row or Hanamura
fffffffff
hanamura
o
ooooooh pokpo
Shhh
ok come on Reign
pokpo,
break Shocks undefeated record on Hanamura
that's a name i missed
saucy whyyyyyyyyy
Bad hero pool for shock, and they have nothing at all to play for. I'd guess they aren't that motivated
yup
true, tracer = striker = win, genji = super = underestimate = win
they haven't lost it since 2018 iirc
wtf
huh
12-0
ez clap
thts a standable spot choi was on
no way they lose this
make that 13-0
bruh
shock players need a break imo
i have to keep refreshing my stream like every 5 mins... it keeps desyncing
ans
wait what happened 1-2 are they throwing LU:
masaa really dying a lot
yeah crusty joined the server, asked for $20 and told atlanta they would throw if they sent it to him
sure
hard feeding
Dive being played every game, is this cos tracer and genji banned or BC of new patch coming everyone wants to practice and not play orisa
practice for new patch
imagine if
Makes sense
thats a lot of ults damn
not practice in the games
Oh shit
dont lose with a 5 ults plz
like seriously shock is bad what even happend i had to go during the control map and now this so i hope the dragon v philly match will be good LUL
ANS
shock have 4 ults
clutch
They used a bunch of them
Choi seems to be pretty feedy on dva
Ans!!
U guys are behind lul
lol
so many ults wasted
his playstyle is more aggresive
only with a valk
Ans lul
sometimes thats bad
they gotta force out EMP and just not fuel Shock ult charge
sit edison
if shock is playing like this they're gonna get FUCKED by the apac teams
ans
who subbed out erster
If shock play like this, they won't be playing apac teams
I think people are forgetting
he got bursted
ANS
these games are meaningless
monkey
bruh again
and this meta will be gone after today
mercy is gonna end up getting nerfed
edison plz
yeah I agree, Shock aren't likely to care much about this
edison cant do shit bro
yes but maintain the record
he needs to set up first
ans is so good god damn
no ans
even if the match doesn't matter, the superstar players on the shock should easily be able to beat the reign
If they lose this to reign it might make teams underestimate them in playoffs
shock win fiht
So that is to their advantage
fight*
Reign have probably been grinding this 2 week meta hard to try get 5th place
Shock had nothing to play for really
atlanta also have superstar players , and are playing extremely well , shock players have more pressure to perform day in day out to stay the best
they 100% need a break
bad primal
pokpo and saucy come in
JUST CAME IN AND SAW THAT ATL IS WINNING
Atlanta lose
primal lmao
wait shock win this map
Shock prob don't care about this patch
he ulted just to get ans off the high ground
next map pokpo and saucy out, erster and gator in
WHOA
bas nano
@fierce narwhal literally read any of this chat... you'll find out ...
SMURF
@fierce narwhal literally read any of this chat... you'll find out ...
@edgy tinsel ok
pokpo throwing
:/ put gator back in please. i dont hate pokpo. just dont want to lose
lol
Shock could also be potentially sandbagging any specific strats or dive tactics they want to use I suppose....
pokpo is better on monkey
I have homeroom in like 2 min but idc because I don't have to attend homeroom
ok
yes please put Gator back in
walls!
Gator wouldn't achieve them much here as it's dive focused map rather than Orisa
we goingg to 5
gator is not a bad monkey anyway, but he has been more successful this series, so I still think double shield might be doing better
will shock be ahead of philly if they win?
No
oh ok
Philly are #1 seed no matter what
😮
OH
gg
EZ
OOOF
16-0!
bob poggers
how was that a c9? people in yt chat are saying it was
because yt chat is dumb
gold chat are dummies
Yt chat is full of idiots
Any time someone caps, YT chat thinks its a c9
put
in chat for ans and
for edison!
c9 c9 c9 c9, they lost point it's A C9
it isn't that, it is like saying pogchamp
it is just a thing
that people say
when someone wins now
put 
omg wait. is hog double off tank going to be the meta for grand finals?
The wheel isn't wrong yet
i'm nearing 600 coins 
i dont see how this is a positive from shock even if they win they lost to the reign twice
idk if hog will be meta
2 -2
all you really need to kill a hog is a reaper
Reaper is useless because hitscan dps will be meta
im absolutely losing at the OWL youtube chat
yep
yeah junk isnt bad for him
this is even worse than twitch chat i love it so much lmao
Wait
reaper is EXTREAMLY easy to hs with widow and ash
Shock is gonna lose this map to a c9 in OT
why does sideshow look depressed
And come back and not drop a single map to win the GF
The script is coming together
cuz he's bald and mald
so is there enough games left to get another 100 tokens this season?
why does sideshow look depressed
@plush grail ^
If you watch playoffs yes
I just got my first 100 and want to know if it is the only 100 I will have lmao
aight
thanks
first 100 what?
I just got my first 100 and want to know if it is the only 100 I will have lmao
@tawdry hamlet
100 tokens is 20 hours, should be easy enough with playoffs
true
also we'll probably have another double tokens event
Dive will be meta hopefully
I would have gotten more but my browser didn't give me tokens for a week so I lost out on like 40
really fun to watch, face paced
oof
I would have gotten more but my browser didn't give me tokens for a week so I lost out on like 40
@tawdry hamlet
already 30%
no ans!
MOTH JUST SUICIDE DIVED
wtf
shock be sandbagging
Shock do be doe
doe be doe?
yes!
ooh
OO
hehe
oh!
ANS
Ans if anything at least is still ans regardless of his team
LETS GO EDISON
The fuck is Reign doing
clutch pack hack
Hard throw
ans wakes up for only 10% of the map
Hard throw from atl
and they win
ez ans
Should have won this map
pain.
Playing with their food.
ATLANTAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
comeback in play
ans 2 gud
Btw, this Shock wouldn't win from Fusion
they solo EMPed smurf lmao
oof
well yea they lost to fusion
never noticed that
Then again in a meta that will never be played again
inb4 shock c9s this
Lulw
the thing is idk if i want the shock to win but still im expecting more out of them
Gator poked the bear
I hate the new roadhog meta
After they just beat philly after having to adapt and mirror the dive comp philly was originally better at
so annoying
sooo it's kinda weird all around
ATL have a lot to gain from this map, shock have nothing. So its weird
this happened last round
I really hope for shocks sake, Sombra isn't meta in playoffs
they're fucked if she's meta 100%
maybe
will probably be meta
i think she is
Teams like philly and SHD would rocket ahead with heesu/lip
remember goats
pog if sombra becomes meta nyxl could have a chance
everyone thought they would get destroyed but they still got the win
and now Atlanta loses
with sombra
if sombra is meta shd is gonna clap apac still
striker 2nd emp
hmm
If sombra is meta I bet SHD wins it all
guess not
lets gooo
yeh
Wow very close game
If sombra is meta shd rolls
imagine if Shock C9 this
If playoffs was 2 months away I'd be hopeful of Striker sombra, but with it being so close, it's not good
LETS GOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
one time being an Atlanta fan pays off



what happened to shock?
LET IT REIGN
crusty just told them to do whatever and left to go play some valorant
^
gotta wrap it up bois fun is over
Nothing to play for, and a pointless game is whats happened to shock
ans cracked
ans 5k
get as much playtime as possible before the playoffs
that dynamite is so satisfying
Damnit, score on the page spoiling the result 😦
LMAO
LOL
ans coach gun lmao
fat F

gg bois
and rookie of the year
Gg
ez
Rip
A T L
ggs
SOLO EMP
Gg 
you pushed shock
gg
pain.
Masaa is going to be boomed, he's so had enough of this season
ans carry so hard
how the fuck SFS and Reign were 2-2
what happened
shock trolling
ans was either throwing or carrying
gg
did they put Super on Mercy or something?
Lighthouse lol
tbh tho shock has to step it up cuz this was so close. their lucky they have good dps
Shock were playing for ANS reddit clips
Rough game
im honestly surprised that shock won
Atlanta has gotten a 3-2 match against Paris and Shock now though
lmao shock spammed those question marks
Honestly yea @agile pewter
how can they even think about doing something like that when atlanta almost beat them
ans was back and forth
Was it a reverse sweep?
I doubt Shock gave their best lol they really had no reason to care about this one
not a reverse sweep
if shock continue to play like this they will lose round 2
Shock will either lose to Philly or Dragons in the playoffs anyways
it wasnt really a reverse sweep
Shock had nothing at all to play for, in a temporary meta. Don't predict their playoffs on that
gang
no they won control so its not R. Sweep
yeah what Error said
shang gang
ATL had a lot to play for, so were probably full try-harding for past 3 weeks
no
Also
wait 90 in all theses maps?
all the good hog players??
pretty sure flex supports know how to play hog
no cyx is not OWL level lol
Shock looked like their normal selves on lighthouse
Like they fucking controlled everything on it
I think Ameng can play Hog
@digital cloud gotcha, i mustve gotten confused with someone else
i thought there were talks about him joining or something idk
most off tank players will be thrown on hog duty as well
Bdosin best hog player 😄
Shockj doesnt like this meta i guess?
Bdosin hog yessir
most people known for hog are not owl level sadly
honestly shock really did suffer from hero pools they look the worst when they are on
i dont know honestly off the top of my head
moose maybe?
who's shock's hog player?
he might have been able to
choi
probably choi
choi most likely
yeah every offtank will now be thrown into hog duty
well shock hog player could be super
Boombox hog is pretty good too 😄
god
this hurts, hog might become meta but the signing window is closed so harblue is't gonna get picked up
double of tank meta
its just whoever does the best
rip super wont be in playoffs
harb would get clapped vs owl hogs
OH
and OWL anas
GL harb trying to flank hog vs twilight or alarm
shock dont have both a zarya and a hog so their going to lose
harb plays against and with owl players daily on ladders
Choi has a really good hog and smurf has a solid zarya
ladder isnt owl
yeah, bit that doesn't make him owl level
Also I doubt hog zarya will be meta in owl
Ranked is not a way to judge players. There is like 0 coordination/comms in ranked
hog zarya is the current meta
he isn't good enough
along with ana
i dont think zarya will be but hog very much could
in ladder
No, hog would get farmed by ana in owl
LUL
idk who really plays hog
hard to say
Who knows, hog has been useless for like 3 years
he was bad forever
we would have to look back into last year from the hog orisa comp
its like bastion who is a good bastion
you shouldn't have been playing hog anyway
sbb had a decent bastion
Even the hog/orisa meta was just who can hook on a halt
or the best i mean
and striker played alot of bastion i believe
all the teams will just agree to not play hog
If it's a hog/zarya meta, Shock are going to be nasty. Who stops ANS
yeah hog/orisa comp wasn't really a hog meta, they just needed the hook
i want them to run something like a rein sig but thats not gonna happen
hog/zarya will be dominated by good dps teams
but shocks frontline might not be used to hog zarya
doesnt smurf speak english
since choi play off tank mainly
no i lied i want to see hog ball 
I think we'll see Rein/Zarya on small rush based maps. Winston/Zarya on everything else
I could see dive maybe being good too still
i forget is it losers pick for maps
yeah
yeah i just forgot if it was or not
i think sombra is still meta
yeah they showed this last week it was so funny
it goes on for like 10 mins it feels like
Did Super's dad mald about this too?
Do LAG have to win to get 6th seed, or was ATL losing neough?
i think they have to win
win
Do LAG have to win to get 6th seed, or was ATL losing neough?
@weak bolt first time I read your message I thought you said lag but just in caps lock(lag as in lagging)
lol
Hmm if LAG lose they go 10-11 same as ATL
guess it goes to map diff
yeah but what about map diff
yea
houston is only 10th because of map diff
can someone explain map diff to me,
if you win or lose maps
Win a map +1, Lose a map -1
oh ok thx
yeah they are 2 stats game wins and map diffs
custa LUL
Was it this match that we got the amazing Route 66 map with the crazy shatters?
Do ksf and ksp have some relation like carpe and diem
No, just coincidence
yeah i know its weird
lol
ksf, ksp, ksaa
lol 3 ks's
I want to see Gig vs Cloudy on Rein
i dint like kevsters performance yesterday
awww no cloudy
i also want cloudy
yea
cloudy cloudy
bring in mr.cloudy
y lucio instead of mercy
Guys im going to bet you 5 million dollars that la is going to win
free money!
well this is the battle for LA LUL
well this is the battle for LA LUL
@gloomy vector i know, thats the point 😐
lol
which team r u guys rooting for
wtf is happening
clear the space LUL
Lul
i mean val isnt playing terrible it just seems they arent playing aggressive
enough
holy shit
well i mean i rather see the glads win
gggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggg
the bird boi
Birdring is a monster
apple?
he's looking like we're in 2018
ikr
apple?
@gloomy vector ye
Birdring having a crazy month
ooof
Birdring player of the month
Birdring coulda been an MVP candidate and I wouldn't have complained ngl
I mean like over Eileen?
I thought he's been the best part of Glads all year
nah
Birdring has definitely been the best part of the team
there's a reason the meme "4 mald, space & birdring kill everything" exists
buts thats just my opinion
Very good genji
its also i judge the different roles differently like DPS is a rough one and Support isnt as strict
i couldnt think the word so i put strict
Birdring is working for that raise
i have been loving the sombra and widow match up
nice
the old lav colours 😍
untrue
glads!
How did Atlanta take Shock to map 5
shock wasnt playing well
what about phili?
but ans had 90 final blows
when do they play again?
i do wonder how much different the standing would have been if apac was able to play the others instead of "boosting" on some easier matches
btw, are there admins in their crips ?
I think teams like Guangzhou Philly Mayhem Paris would have a lot more losses
like, on stage
there always was a dude watching from behind over their shoulders
is this still happening?
btw to you 2 that asked questions idk
also has the website been messing up for yall recently i have to watch on YT while using my phone for the tokens
what big gooses was way better
i dont watch the games for tokens 😮
me neither
i didnt even know yt managed to add tokens
they dont
o0

and where do you farm tokens? or how?
the OWL website or the phone app
owl phne app?
yeah
damn
i cba watching them matches on the phone and mirroring it onto the tv
damn cellphone gettin hot asf everytime 😄
this is the second tme i see the defending team attacking on havana oO
LUL i just noticed mirror was playing im blind
LOL OGE STUCK ON THE CEILING
lol oge smushed into the ceiling
that was funny
so again, are there admins making sure nobody is.. using tricks ??
MIRROR WHY
wow full hold
well this isnt the worst for glads it isnt hard to hold there
yea
are they playing with nerfed orisa&sigma ?
why widow into double shield
yea
they should have pushed up
the glads
widow ult diff
lol
this is definitely winnable for glads now
valiant actually gonna lose lmao
nvm they did it
yup
lol rain looks like he's <18yo
i just dont see how the hanzo was a good choice
ok
wow, bad anime style
wow yaki the anime
Yaki pog
no yaki is bad
is the OWL still as strong as it was 2yrs ago?
it's the 3rd year now
u gotta throw this year out the window
too many external factors
ask again in 1 year
i'm talkin about the interests in eSports
Destroy OW1. Rise of Ow2 
i remember sports pubs showing owl matches
i mean its on YT and i rather it be on Twitch
but the interests are still as strong? i myself haven't really watched much in 2019 nor this year
hmm within what we have, i would say its holding stable
good to hear
on tourneys the viewership is usually good
what those games are completly dif
the orgs are just doing it for fun
come on
YEs
sinatraa earned a shitload of money
yea
how much more do invidual LoL players earn per year?
you’d only play Sinatraa for monkey zarya
Otherwise there’s no reason to play him
well there’s doomfist
Tracer
You have striker
lol
i mean they have other options
yes theres striker, but apparently crusty really values Sinatraa's shotcalling
sinatraa was actually a dps player
so i can see him play over striker at times
I guess
its who ever plays better that week during scrims too
or fits the situation
tbh i rather not see valorant die and see corey/sinatraa back
i rather see new people with "better" skills
Ults???
i dont think Valorant will die, but it wont be as big as ppl think
there are plenty of people better than Sinatraa @idle beacon
same
wdym hes not even the best dps player in OWL
The first wave of players in any esport is never the best
tell me one, zalty
i dont think Valorant will die, but it wont be as big as ppl think
@clear crane yeah the hype has kind of died down
pure dps playes
rascal can be
Faker didnt show up in LoL until S3 right?
wdym you cant be flexable
and they're super cracked
tf is wrong with glads ffs
Valorant hype was inflated with twitch drops
Sinatraa was never a top 5 dps lol
they arent the best team and it shows
ever at any time
like i agree sinatraa was good but not best dps
his zarya and doom was crazy
but outside of that he can’t hold shit to a player like Fleta
wait yeah he played zarya hes isnt a "pure dps"
he was at peak the 2nd best dps on Shock last year
ksp is only strong with a mercy. sad
KSP is always strong tf
no last week he was so good
I think Space has kinda degraded
ksp is great lmao
Either that or his Sigma is just not as good as his Dva
Zarya is more dps than tank
he has an amazing Hog tho
so if its Hog/Zarya meta, then him and Mirror can run around doing watever
but being on a worst team kinda degrades you a little bit not in every case but in alot
like your skill
space's dva is better ye
@gloomy vector TaC#1068 not by skill IMO
like performance
cause like ur individual skill cant always shine
Is anyone having issues obtaining OWL tokens?
i know what i meant but yeah it kinda degrades you in a sense
I've been watching the finals, non-stop, every day, and I haven't got squat.
i am 100% sure LA will win this match
we all know someone like Decay will probably beat the fuck out of everyone on a good team but w/ Dallas, teams got accustomed to playing against decay
Ye
U get more boomed I guess
I've been watching the finals, non-stop, every day, and I haven't got squat.
@sweet scaffold seriously? thats a lot of time
And if coaching is shit you take in the wrong stuff
Washington has potential next year
Yeah, I stopped getting OWL tokens after like the 1st day of the last tourney.
just need 1-2 good offseason moves
oof
I've been sitting on like 196 OWL tokens ever since.
I've been sitting on 99.
oh
Like, come on.
how much does a skin cost
100 Tokens.
$5
I mean, I still find it pretty hilarous that for a lot of people the only reason they 'watch' OWL is for free stuff (ie, tokens). Take away the free stuff and noone wants to watch it
true akashra 😄
@upper niche I still like watching the league for the finals, but most of the teams are pretty washed.
well if the skins were not 5 dollars each nobody would watch it for tokens in the first place
I tend to always have it on beside me, but I'm really not paying attention to what's going on. You can't really half-watch Overwatch, ti just doesn't work.
i dont care about tokens
i've tuned in yday, out of boringness and heard that today is the last gameday of this years season?
wait what
yeah, the rest is two months of finals 😄
2 months long?
2 months long?
@idle beacon https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yFOvldn_IRw
k
They have this stupidly complicated 19-game series just for North America to determine the top two in NA - APAC is a bit simpler, I think it's about 9 matches to determine the top 2 from APAC.
apac?
APAC=8 games. NA=18 games.
Shock Phily and Dragons
no, 4.
o0
well, 2 from each region yes
tf is glads doing ffs
like how SHD got fucked by GZC?
But SHD has been resilient and have only been winning since
While charge is slowly falling
They had only been winning before that.
Anything can happen. Look at SFS choking lately.
Man GLAD need to changd their support line
Like shaz been complete trash on past 2 maps
I just don’t see the 2nd spot making any noise. Esp if it’s Shock
And goose is trash ony anything that not Lucio
I understand that fans love them
But they both washed up
i'm with you legacy
The way they calcaulted the rankings/seedings is fucked. Including 'bonus' wins as maps played? that was bullshit. And never included in the original rules.
Glad pls

