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until they play with the patch
Yeah, but bubble only lasts so long, wouldn’t hog have to play really safe?
have mercy up the ass of one of the dps
have ana yeet nades
ez
hog of course needs to play safe but mainly he has to avoid the enemy hog hook and ana nade
if he can avoid those two he can do what he wants for the most part
now this is just how i've seen it played
I have no idea if it's the best comp or the best strat
Why not run like rein sig with zen and Ana then?
just what i've observed
I think the issue with a rein sig comp with zen is that a hog zarya double sniper comp is going to be playing really split, and especially with no lucio it will be hard for the rein comp to out rotate the enemy
Makes sense
Sombra could be a good pick though
Sombra Tracer Ashe Widow are likely the heroes most played
Question. As the OWL has been at-home for awhile now due to Covid-19, are all of the teams' internet good enough? I was assuming they would have cancelled it as they would not be playing locally, so there could be some unfair issues with different internet situations
Actually better than OWL production
They have 2 regions of play and these 2 regions cannot play together due to high ping. One region is in SK and the other in the US
the 2 best teams in the US will go to Korea at the end of the season to play the 2 best teams there and battle for the championship.
Guangzhou is in a hotel lol
@balmy wolf that's sort of the point they try to minimize by being in two specific countries, an NA conference (USA, 13 teams) and APAC (Asia Pacific, 7 teams).
With APAC teams in OWL, You probably won't notice until you watch Chengdu during summer showdown when their ping was at a significant disadvantage, but since then it hasn't stopped them from getting wins against NYXL or Seoul.
Is anyone apart of or interested in being apart of a tournament dm if so
this server has a tournament in the works
keep watch over #630023582407458846
Love EU Tourneys as much as Asia
lol
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No
Im voting Void or Fleta ❤️
Carpe/Alarm = MVP
Idk if casters think capre should be mvp at all
Or other people in OWL
Maybe some teams
But mostly idk
i just dont want xzi
Im a paris fan and i dont really want him either
Probably not gonna be
So dont worry
He is
Void and alarm are the only two that really deserve it
And void deserves it even more than alarm
His zarya sigma and dva are all top level
I think the chances of alarm getting mvp is like 10%
If he's mvp
He has to be roty
And that's kinda unfair
Unless they decide that that's bs so they don't do that
Carpe did the whole work. He is the best of everything.
Carpe did half the work while Alarm did the other half ngl
Alarm is their nutty support while Carpe brings back fights fusion should have lost
MVP is just a popularity contest at this point.
They made it worse by having a 100k prize, so there's incentive to game it.
If it costs $50k to buy votes, well then it just became worth it.
But Carpe works on dps so hard though.
Carpe did the whole work. He is the best of everything.
@flat brook but this is completely incorrect. he isnt the best on everything. infact he hasnt even proven he can show up and win high pressure matches hence why fusion has never won anything
Carpe did half the work while Alarm did the other half ngl
@true hound Thing is
Take carpe out of philly, theyd still be a top 3 team with their dps, but if you took alarm out of philly, theyd drop very far down
Then how good is Carpe?
One of the best dps in the world
@hot heart prags????
What?
Okay
If he showed up
In 1 to 2 of the tournaments
He'd have a better chance of being mvp
thank you atleast someone bloody understands
It just doesn't make any sense for him to be mvp at this point
For all the hype
He cant seem to live up to it when it matters most
Ye
I want void simply because he'll probably do a sigma skin or hog skin for his mvp skin
Also very underrated when hes been very consistent
definitely not underrated
Not at all underrated
He is not underrated, he just improved a lot comparing to last season
I wouldn’t even say he improved a lot
He just went from playing with a below average main tank to one of if not the best main tank
So he gets to be a lot more free from peeling
And a lot more time killing things
👀
🤔
What do u guys think the meta will be
I’m thinking Winston sigma
With like sombra mccree
I don't know, I just can't see hog being good when sombra ana and zen exists
maybe I am just small minded
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Rein sig or hog zar meta is my prediction
im thinking sig hog
hog zar in OWL? doubt
@worn falcon wtf ur here too?? hiiii
@acoustic atlas since long time 🥚is, lol
owowo
Meta is zarya hog on live rn
in OWL? i highly doubt
You never know
Hog ball feels like when shanghai did their 3 dps and ball comp last year
No synergy tho
The only thing I see hog being played with in owl is ball
And it’d be for some koth
As a super anti dive
Do you not remember the Choi hog 
We will not see orisa
Yea
Idk about that
orisa is poop
It's still possible we could see
Orisa is dead minus the one or two maps she’s got a good niche
It depends how good the orisa halt can still be with a player like smurf on her
Nah Orisa is a niche pick now
Winston is probably the best MT
Didn't they say that about brig when she got sledghammered 
After that it would be rein
I'd say ball over rein
The only time brig has been sledgehammered was just now
Rein has a hard time with dive
Her other changes were big nerfs to the wrong parts
'Sledgehammered'
Wait
I didn't put the '
My bad
But yeah there have a been a few times where people thought a hero was dead but they still came baxk
So I'm not ruling anything out
Except for reaper being meta
Why is everyone in Overwatch Esports chinese?
that is a a bit of an exaggeration
I'd say it's more that everyone in overwatch esports is korean
I wouldn’t even say China is a super dominant demographic in OWL
One team is full Chinese and I can think of maybe one Chinese player not on that team
The ow scene in china is huge though
Guxue, M1ka, Diya, Coldest, and Eileen are all very good
maybe not very
but are all good
Diya eileen coldest m1ka guxue (lateyoung?) Would make a chinese super team
hmm
if OWWC was now
China would go
Guxue, Elsa, Leave Jinmu, Eileen, Molly, Yveltal
Molly-Yve have played together a lot, and M1ka and Yve are both really good mercy's
Twilight is Flex support
IDK is main
2 flex support wouldn't make sense. Lucio was integral in that meta
wasn't idk playing ana
I do agree the support position was weird tho
no
Bdosin-Idk was the support line
yeah yeah
it was always the same 7 man roster
twilight viol2t
leejaegon then
yes because moth and astro
I'd agree
is fearless korean
Cause getting everyone to play online is impossible
Pain
Yeah, there are some speculation of blizzcon moved to January 2021
Yeah true
Have you heard of the DCfandome?
Something like that could be great
We get more OW 2 news
Pog
What was dcfandome?
frogger is best lucio no cap
True
Better than moth iDK leejaegon FdGod funnyastro and all the other lucio legends in OWL
Who's best Lucio(in your opinion)?
That's hard but
Either moth or leejaegon
Problem is they have very different playstyles so
Idk
Moth's lucio is a hidden carry of shock rush comps
^
I haven't seen much of LJG but from what I hear he is pretty solid
There’s a billion ways of playing Lucio. Each is a beast in his playstyle.
I'm a bit bias, cuz I go for shock, I think moth is pretty good, and non-OWL players I would go for redshell or frogger. 
Like honestly
how isnt all of BH in OWL yet?
Jofi isnt even om BH now
and he still hasnt been picked up
They will get picked up for next season
entire teams like that don't get signed midseason
It should be after this season ends that they get signed if they even get signed in the first place
Glads v mayhem 
Yes
Stan LeeJaeGon
He’s a feast or famine kinda gamer
Often lots of feasts and some famines but the famines are hilarious to watch
That’s not a bird it’s just LeeJaeGon in the skybox above your spawn
Lmao
Hopefully they will bring back Horizon Lunar Colony and Paris
Pls god no
yes
yes
why does it always feel like the friday games are the not important games
If VAN d BOS, the SFS v WAS is completely unnecessary - nothign can change from it
Shock vs Justice will be an interesting one
Will decay play?
Nice
Washington lose but decay and jjanu sounds sick together tbh
If Washington are willing to shell out this kinda money
They could be a mid to top team next year
Not like top top
But
Top 10
Or top 12
I think they’re gonna do a lot in the off season
I could imagine they pay a lot for Decay/Jjanu and keep AimGod
Who ever made the decision to remove 6 stack in gm
made this possible
I can't even be mad at those 6 stackers if I was that high
No way to play a competitive game with friends if you can't stack
Okay but if they add back 6 stacks then you get 3 stacks back
Do you really want 3 stacks
I see no issue with it. One the reasons high elo lost a big part of the player base is because of the limitations of stacking with friends
If not, if you don't want to play against three stack owl players, then devs need to come up with a separate comp for players above certain SR
I can imagine pro players like to play together, makes the matches more competitive
not fun watching some high elo play with up to 800 SR difference in matchmaking
makes no sense
of course it doesn't. You removed 3+ stacking and you wonder why players stop playing ranked and matches become imbalanced?
So in my perspective, if they avoided all placements to get to gold, to be able to play in high mmr because blizz/devs not allows that, it's not my problem
They already know about it
They just don't care
at all
They don't care for competitive
never did
I loved seeing three stacks games. Specifically elo guardians, what a great time
Such a joy watching Jjonak livestream his matches
He barely streams anymore (to my knowledge)
Why would you stream if you can't play with more than 1 friend?
They keep removing the stacks, even after Gm gets 3.9, 6 stack away, means ranked becomes even more empty
Seeing all those streamers in one team was fun
But no, let's ruin the fun more
Who exactly is complaining about pros stacking? I wouldn't complain, I would use that opportunity to learn the game more or else I can't follow their pace
You know the issue right now?
It's exactly the same issue as before
You are Masters, for no reason you get to play in a 4.5 match
Like I was. I was playing with top 100 people, which I find a little extreme, but why? Not enough players to fill match so I, as mid masters got in the match, when it could have been prevented
Buy like, it's situational
But the players that complained, maybe even streamers, act like they play with pros all the time, when in reality, lots of t500 just scrim because ranked is not worth it
In the past, the matches were more balanced on terms of mmr and sr, nowadays its not
Too many t500 having masters in their matches, but how odd is it that I don't see masters complaining about it?
Yet in the past complaining of getting high elo players (unlucky)

my guy wrote a whole essay on why 2+ stacks should be allowed
ya know despite everyone askign for it to be removed
its all fun in games until you q into a 6 stack of q snipers
or 6 stack of hackers
or casually qing into NYXL
That happened without 6 stack
Unlucky for fitzy
The chance of that happening is so low
not my point bruv no one really wants 6 stacking in gm back
most pros asked for it
it was really only a vocal minority who wanted it back
Pros wanted it gone ( unknown %), then it's removed, and pros then complain about quality of matches (which is due the stack system being removed, people stopped playing ranked all together)
Well, then blizz should have done that in the first place
There's no reason they can't implement it
u just get hard stomp games if ur qing against 3+ stacks as a soloq player
esp at GM where ur just gonna fight loaded stacks and just instantly lose the game
They are there that's for sure
If they really listened to community
They should have separated different queues
But they didn't
Only role queue
And open queue
a pure 6 stack queue?
youd have to add a whole new mode im guessing then and remove 6 stacking in normal RQ
ye but youd have to implement a clans/teams system in game or something
not throw 3+ stacks into GM
Yes, separate queues
bruh
Solo queue, and then whatever how much you want to stack
Because solo queue were complaining right?
Then simply separate them
Btw that 6 stack ladder was Brad's idea
Yes
He suggested it as an idea
The clan/guild system would be a great idea
It's like Overwatch as the beginning
When groups of players started making teams and competing against others

some dude in /r/cow said that its in French
but Unkoe is saying that dallas is a shitshow
saying "i cant tell you whats happening"
c'est exceptional
hopefullymy shit french skills come in handy
Time to see if my spanish can hear French
I think I'll stay up for the games because I slept for five hours in the afternoon
Yeet
I have like 500 tokens so I can buy one normal skin and still have enough for the all star skins
What should I get
I don't play sombra
Paris McCree

Choi has exactly 27000 votes
@forest raven I was going to say sigma, but why not roadhog?
middle of the pack is fire this weekend
Glads last three matches and Spark's final match against Seouls the ones to watch
Is this the last week before the tourney?
ye
And is the tourney next week?
seoul win both matches
come on toyou
CINDERELLA STORY
DRAGONS WE'RE COMING FOR YOU BABY
If there are still Dallas fans rooting for this team
now is the time to show up
peak dallas is breaking into top 12 after all
first match served up very soon
C o l o u r h e x M V P
this should be an ez tians wins right
You'd think
quiet Sprite
you know I was the only one bold enough to predict Jerry MVP before the start of this season
also im hoping for a glads wins against the mayhem but im not expecting it
Moira's experimental orb has joined the chat
anyways I'm out
this will be a sneeze for mayhem if Gladiators haven't got their execution sorted
and while I like watching boston... try
I'll be around for the APAC matches
well glads have a chance
much like toronto has a chance tomorrow
well a hurricane is near where i live so i mean
:)
oh i believe the format is released for the playoffs
final week of games
tier 3 sadge
they're pretty much the highest point in the matches this month after Countdown cup
boston lul
you cant make it fullscreen?
i dont like updated page
it's chonkers
:))
you've overreacting
only guest sideshow could do that
I'll leave it on the background
Yeah
without sound
I'm at the gym
xd
I don't know how it looks since I'm not at my pc
yeah the page is trash now i dont like the update
well im expecting a titans win but hoping for a glads win
Titans 3-0
Mayhem 3-2
yeah I might be exaggering
this week still big on placements
they're only 2-3 matches away
to securing where they are in top 12
everyone else kinda vibin at the bottom
This video has been recommended to me a thousand times from play chat
They were so uncomfortable putting guangzhou top 4 so they worked with top 8
After playoffs will a new season start straight away?
How long
from the end of playoffs til around febuary
that was last year so It should be similar
That's a long time
So there will be no owl until Feb
I guess there will be some mini tournaments or something on yt
prob not tho
So owl is only active about 6 months of the year
i dont even know if OWWC is happening
mics are so boomed lmao
doing it online would be awful
Who will we copy for the new meta
time for Pogwave to bully uprising
imagine OWL but will more regions regions
If there is no owl
lmao
that was fast
I swear everytime I look at titans carcar is dead
like everytime I look over and see lucio carcar respawning
lmaoooo
scary jerry
Lmao yeah dead again
I honestly think he is one of the worst pros currently
or supports at least
idk who the worst players are
but car car isn't great lmao
well it appears boston isn't playing as bad as they did against la last week
but they are going to be swept
Carcar is having a tough time cause of his team
well both of these teams are not the best so i dont expect much of the players
I mean Titans are off a big win so I expect them to be playing a bit more cocky
plus they are the clear superior team
hey if hex could just cut out at a very tense moment
we could get another jake-like pog caster moment
rolled
shockwave
ksaa and dalton
idk shockwave has really stood out recently
I saw that, I had already hit enter 
You know what
but probably ksaa and dalton
Boston will come strong next seasons
doubt it
they are pretty much the untouchable team rn
two pedophile incidents
owned by Robert craft
bad team
i dont think dalton is that good he just looks good rn because boston bad
he isn't great but he showed some good play against reign
and the rest of titans are pretty meh
so he stands out
I honestly don't see uprising even being part of the league next season
Boston just, doesn't click
Either bad coaching, or it just doesn't click
How is Boston still not good?
Titans and Justice went in some time chamber
And look how they play
FIRE MINERAL
I persoanally think boston should do what titans did
Pick up a contenders team and hope
pick up team doge pls
its not like boston doesnt have good players its just they are bad as a team
hex emped both tanks then boston just stared at the enemy tanks until the emp wore off
shockwave has missed so many shots while he said he was doing amazing LUL
jerry almost took it back
like i said they are bad as a team and at least 3 bad players
I think Jerry would play much better on a team like toronto
3 goodish/ok players but 3 bad players
Fusions is pretty shit imo
but logix is a good hitscan so he wouldn't really fit there
I prefer Muma rein over fusions
yes he is good
punk is ok
Yeah
everyone else is shit
Punkk is prlly the best player on that team
yes you said the 3 that is ok to goodish
Hey im trying to watch from my switch but it wont let me
Remember tho some players cant shine unless they have a good team so some players might better better then they seem with boston
Look at fearless
0-40
Any ideas why i cant
to one of the bests mts
i agree some players look better than they are because they are on a bad team thats why i wish i could see someof them on diff teams
use the mobile app
My pc doesnt even let me log in
you can get credits on mobile
the mobile app gives credits almost always for me
No you can get them on switch
daamn jerry
JERRYYYYYYYYYY
LMAO
lol
ikr
they are so even
whooo shockwave
man
Billion dollar?
cockwave
Surely not that much
no owl isn't with a billion dollar lmao
that what i thought
but owl on yt is working fine on my switch.
jerry??????
who ever said boston is gonna do well next year thats too hard to believe unless they drop their whole team titans style
if owl was worth a billion dollars they wouldn't have such a scuffed stream where 1 caster keeps dipping
untrue
even shit like wwe has those issues, bad connection can happen to anyone lmao
you can be supported with a lot of money but the home internet is bad
i dont think they are worth 1 billion either but that statement is false anyways
you don't really see that for the dota or csgo streams from what I've seen
@gloomy vector did you know in what context I said it?
ive seen so many csgo errors on espn
Basically a summary of all money that has been used so far in the owl, starting in 2018
or espn 2 whatever the channel was
Which is why I said billion dollar
160 million deal in 3 years with youtube gaming
no i was talking about something different adriel
ok
i was talking about the YT contract purchase and the business as a wholle
or the streaming rights i mean
They are 160 million, but those are spread between owl and cod
kinda odd
and 3 years?
Doesn't seem much
YouTube Gaming Still doesn't have emotes integration like Twitch
no esports in anywhere other than asia doesnt make that much money
rn its not worth supporting thats why its 160 in 3 years
only care about money
They can develop their own streaming thing in the owl launcher if they wanted
I would pay for that
Live matches with emotes integration?
only care about money
Le funny Activision corporate only cares about money

but they got a big paycheck from YT so they went for the money side than the support the infrastructure
@McGravy McGravy on behalf of the League I just wanted to say that while you are an incredibly gifted professional player you are an even better person. Thank you for everything.

i assume they did at least
I bet
If the teams that decided to buy spots, decided to pressure blizzard
then blizzard would change its tone very quickly
they are also going for more viewers than just gaming viewers because YT is for that
Activision could also just say fuck the orgs are run away with the money
@McGravy Hey McGravy, thanks for being a constant beacon of positivity for the league, while also providing a seemingly endless stream of content. Not to mention the great highlights you've given us. Also, thanks for letting us borrow your Tesla.
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Especially when big corp are pressuring a small business
they wouldnt do that to the Asian region because esports in asia makes too much money
To me blizz is still small compared to the orgs that paid for spots
Those spots are nothing
They probably just gonna disregard NA and EU stuff
pennies to them
China got more money
Doubt, some NA teams are rich af
lmaooo what the fuck is this advertisement for super
Yo I appreciate them giving the genji players support like this
yeahh boi
why does this fucking ad for super sound like one of the ''donate to africa'' ads
super be like
thats right babby
dallas is rich cause envy
LUL this is too good
LMAO
Dallas mighty as well be lighting their money on fire with their investments into OWL
yo i dig this
aight nvm this is legit billion dollar production
what is this LUL
this is great
xd
What is this
we better see more from other regions next year
art
LUL mcgravey
THEY SAID SEX
SEX SYMBOL
FINED AND BANNED
wait
AHAHA
Bruh
what
SEX SYMBOL LIVE ON OWL
well this is better than being marketed headphones i wouldn't buy

I lost
Bruh
maketa
or razors with too much social clout
they should fine the commentator
no


fine noah a produkshun
just cuts back to the waitings screen like they didn't just show the best owl clip ever and said sex

Halsey coming to Grand Finals 
owl video commentary says sex symbol, blizzard asleep
also blizzard
lastro says sex big dick, BLIZZARD REAL SHIT
anyways to continue what i was saying before this meme happened we already knew they cared more about money because of the token thing at the start of the season they didnt really care about getting us rewards for watching they just said YEP Money
Pretty sure blizzard didn't care about lastro that much
overwatch just showing us soft core porn with those mcgravy pics
sideshow pog hat
''it's not me egg man''
where the muffin man
damn. Boston is so trash.....
at least Titans are showing improvements
This team is straight garbo
Boston 3-0's glads
Also boston
Loses 3-0 to titans


carcar
remember its the 2 worst teams in the league playing against each other
im a bit new to this, can anyone help me understand what the "Unavaliable heroes" means? (Genji, tracer, zarya, brig)
Boston would be smoked hard vs korean top teams
@vagrant jacinth carcar died + this very smart bubble
this bubble did like 0 for the team lol
they cant use those heros this week because of hero pools
@clear crane Vishkar gang
it can happen
but whatever Boston is getting hard 3-0d anyways
im a bit new to this, can anyone help me understand what the "Unavaliable heroes" means? (Genji, tracer, zarya, brig)
@vagrant lantern just means they gonna be played this week
Sometimes you have a bad bubble
ye
@clear crane Vishkar gang
@sullen berry hell yaahh
oof
why is Josh casting now instead of Hex?
@clear crane wait wdym, why are they unavaliable then
right
so blizzard said fuck off u cant use them this week
yes
random lottery
right
nvm
what sigma
back to ds
for variety ig
basically they are trying to make it so teams arent always picking one comp
some weeks it looks great
whenever sigma plays it a good week PepeLaugh
Remove the main meta tank and support and it's all wacky
Fusions looking serviceable on Monkey
boston lets go they made A play
or is it just Titans
Both
tbf
boston wouldve held there had jerry not gotten picked early
Eich 3rd point is super hard to break
Jerry just throwing smh
like ik its not OWL but ive gotten steamrolled on points 1-2 and then we held a team on Eich 3rd point for 6 minutes straight
isnt meta supposed to be hog zarya soon
Dallas Fuel, ‘Yong’ using direct approach to build synergy and prepare for 2021 season
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Read the title
Because u legit have nothing
oh yeah what is dallas gonna do they lost like 3 different people the coach and 2 players
continue to shit
So far they seem to have gotten somewhat better
COME ON BOSTON YOUVE GOTTA BE KIDDIN GME
ez 3k
LOLOLOL
can you hack tire
wtf boston
its Bos

i just dont understand how this version of boston can stay next year they might just get wiped from league
If Moth doesnt want to play in WC anymore
ggs
USA Main Support might be one of Carcar or Halo 
ew
wasn’t Halo one of the best supports in contenders
Like anyone is gonna look shit on Boston
no mater how good u are
myunbong is like their only hope
nah colourhex jesus
like titans are bad and shockwave shines but Boston is a whole new level of bad
lol
he is more famine > feast all season
we already lost super sinatraa rawkus and corey so team usa isnt a thing


THe worst team on and off the game






