#esports-discussion

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edgy tinsel
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all ranks rn

karmic grotto
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until they play with the patch

earnest leaf
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You just run ashe widow, mercy ana, hog zarya

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Save bubbles for hog

digital cloud
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Yeah, but bubble only lasts so long, wouldn’t hog have to play really safe?

earnest leaf
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have mercy up the ass of one of the dps

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have ana yeet nades

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ez

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hog of course needs to play safe but mainly he has to avoid the enemy hog hook and ana nade

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if he can avoid those two he can do what he wants for the most part

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now this is just how i've seen it played

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I have no idea if it's the best comp or the best strat

digital cloud
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Why not run like rein sig with zen and Ana then?

earnest leaf
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just what i've observed

digital cloud
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With like maybe somber and widow, for instance

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Sombra*

earnest leaf
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I think the issue with a rein sig comp with zen is that a hog zarya double sniper comp is going to be playing really split, and especially with no lucio it will be hard for the rein comp to out rotate the enemy

digital cloud
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Makes sense

earnest leaf
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Sombra could be a good pick though

tropic herald
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Sombra Tracer Ashe Widow are likely the heroes most played

balmy wolf
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Question. As the OWL has been at-home for awhile now due to Covid-19, are all of the teams' internet good enough? I was assuming they would have cancelled it as they would not be playing locally, so there could be some unfair issues with different internet situations

raw ermine
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They have 2 regions of play and these 2 regions cannot play together due to high ping. One region is in SK and the other in the US

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the 2 best teams in the US will go to Korea at the end of the season to play the 2 best teams there and battle for the championship.

echo quest
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Sucks all the apac teams weren’t in KR

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If they were

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They could do Lan

tropic herald
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Guangzhou is in a hotel lol

sullen berry
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@balmy wolf that's sort of the point they try to minimize by being in two specific countries, an NA conference (USA, 13 teams) and APAC (Asia Pacific, 7 teams).

With APAC teams in OWL, You probably won't notice until you watch Chengdu during summer showdown when their ping was at a significant disadvantage, but since then it hasn't stopped them from getting wins against NYXL or Seoul.

sly owl
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Is anyone apart of or interested in being apart of a tournament dm if so

sullen berry
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this server has a tournament in the works

karmic grotto
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lol

fierce narwhal
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Yes

feral zodiac
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Deserved

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Filthy hog player

sullen berry
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yeah this is good Tier 2 content

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Drama Alert Nation

maiden mauve
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ParisEternal 😤

balmy wolf
tropic herald
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T2 drama alert actually has a good team wow

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I don’t recognize the other team

tropic herald
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Xzi fan cam

maiden mauve
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XZI ParisEternal 😤

feral zodiac
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No

balmy wolf
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Im voting Void or Fleta ❤️

hot heart
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One of Them is probably gonna end up being mvp

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Void Alarm fleta

ruby dust
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Carpe/Alarm = MVP

hot heart
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Idk if casters think capre should be mvp at all

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Or other people in OWL

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Maybe some teams

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But mostly idk

ruby dust
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i just dont want xzi

hot heart
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Im a paris fan and i dont really want him either

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Probably not gonna be

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So dont worry

balmy wolf
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im voting for void for mvp

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best ot in the league imo

hot heart
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He is

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Void and alarm are the only two that really deserve it

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And void deserves it even more than alarm

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His zarya sigma and dva are all top level

earnest leaf
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If alarm doesn't get mvp

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he 100% deserves ROTY

hot heart
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I think the chances of alarm getting mvp is like 10%

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If he's mvp

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He has to be roty

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And that's kinda unfair

silk frost
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Unless they decide that that's bs so they don't do that

flat brook
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Carpe did the whole work. He is the best of everything.

true hound
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Carpe did half the work while Alarm did the other half ngl

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Alarm is their nutty support while Carpe brings back fights fusion should have lost

upper niche
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MVP is just a popularity contest at this point.

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They made it worse by having a 100k prize, so there's incentive to game it.

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If it costs $50k to buy votes, well then it just became worth it.

flat brook
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But Carpe works on dps so hard though.

edgy tinsel
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Carpe did the whole work. He is the best of everything.
@flat brook but this is completely incorrect. he isnt the best on everything. infact he hasnt even proven he can show up and win high pressure matches hence why fusion has never won anything

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Carpe did half the work while Alarm did the other half ngl
@true hound Thing is
Take carpe out of philly, theyd still be a top 3 team with their dps, but if you took alarm out of philly, theyd drop very far down

flat brook
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Then how good is Carpe?

feral zodiac
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One of the best dps in the world

hot heart
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If he showed up

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In 1 to 2 of the tournaments

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He'd have a better chance of being mvp

viral veldt
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@hot heart prags????

hot heart
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What?

viral veldt
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Dw

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U had the same pfp and colour as a person in a server I'm in

hot heart
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Okay

edgy tinsel
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If he showed up
In 1 to 2 of the tournaments
He'd have a better chance of being mvp

thank you atleast someone bloody understands

hot heart
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It just doesn't make any sense for him to be mvp at this point

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For all the hype

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He cant seem to live up to it when it matters most

balmy wolf
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Ellien and xzi are the two that shouldnt have it

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Out of the bunch

hot heart
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Ye

balmy wolf
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I want void simply because he'll probably do a sigma skin or hog skin for his mvp skin

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Also very underrated when hes been very consistent

edgy tinsel
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definitely not underrated

primal minnow
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I mean he’s considered as the best OT

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So he isn’t underrated

vagrant jacinth
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Not at all underrated

brave whale
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He is not underrated, he just improved a lot comparing to last season

silk frost
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You know 2 people who should be in rather than Xzi and Eileen?

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Moth and Shu

tropic herald
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I wouldn’t even say he improved a lot

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He just went from playing with a below average main tank to one of if not the best main tank

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So he gets to be a lot more free from peeling

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And a lot more time killing things

worn falcon
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👀

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🤔

lean spire
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What do u guys think the meta will be

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I’m thinking Winston sigma

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With like sombra mccree

vagrant jacinth
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Hog sigma maybe?

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Wouldn't be surprised at a Winston ball dive

idle forge
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I think itll be an anti-dive meta

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with hog and sigma

digital cloud
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I don't know, I just can't see hog being good when sombra ana and zen exists

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maybe I am just small minded

raw ermine
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He's back!

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Also C9 signed Bazzi and Munchkin to their Valorant Roster

silk frost
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Rein sig or hog zar meta is my prediction

idle forge
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im thinking sig hog

true hound
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hog zar in OWL? doubt

acoustic atlas
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@worn falcon wtf ur here too?? hiiii

worn falcon
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@acoustic atlas since long time 🥚is, lol

acoustic atlas
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owowo

tropic herald
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I’m gonna guess

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Winston Dva

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Bc Ana is back

balmy wolf
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Meta is zarya hog on live rn

true hound
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in OWL? i highly doubt

balmy wolf
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You never know

true hound
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its weak off the fact there is no mt

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in ladder it works tho

balmy wolf
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Hog ball feels like when shanghai did their 3 dps and ball comp last year

feral zodiac
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I could legit see hog winston

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Idk why

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But I have a feeling it'll be popular

balmy wolf
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No synergy tho

tropic herald
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The only thing I see hog being played with in owl is ball

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And it’d be for some koth

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As a super anti dive

feral zodiac
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Do you not remember the Choi hog ZaryaLUL

balmy wolf
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We will not see orisa

tropic herald
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Yea

feral zodiac
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Idk about that

balmy wolf
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orisa is poop

feral zodiac
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It's still possible we could see

tropic herald
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Orisa is dead minus the one or two maps she’s got a good niche

feral zodiac
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It depends how good the orisa halt can still be with a player like smurf on her

tropic herald
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Nah Orisa is a niche pick now

balmy wolf
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I just wanna see hog in owl again

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fun times of choi melting everything

tropic herald
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Winston is probably the best MT

feral zodiac
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Didn't they say that about brig when she got sledghammered WidowLUL

tropic herald
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After that it would be rein

feral zodiac
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I'd say ball over rein

tropic herald
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The only time brig has been sledgehammered was just now

feral zodiac
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Rein has a hard time with dive

tropic herald
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Her other changes were big nerfs to the wrong parts

feral zodiac
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'Sledgehammered'

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Wait

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I didn't put the '

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My bad

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But yeah there have a been a few times where people thought a hero was dead but they still came baxk

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So I'm not ruling anything out

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Except for reaper being meta

surreal bloom
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Why is everyone in Overwatch Esports chinese?

digital cloud
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that is a a bit of an exaggeration

feral zodiac
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I'd say it's more that everyone in overwatch esports is korean

tropic herald
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I wouldn’t even say China is a super dominant demographic in OWL

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One team is full Chinese and I can think of maybe one Chinese player not on that team

feral zodiac
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The ow scene in china is huge though

silk frost
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Guxue, M1ka, Diya, Coldest, and Eileen are all very good

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maybe not very

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but are all good

hot heart
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Diya eileen coldest m1ka guxue (lateyoung?) Would make a chinese super team

raw ermine
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hmm

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if OWWC was now

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China would go

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Guxue, Elsa, Leave Jinmu, Eileen, Molly, Yveltal

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Molly-Yve have played together a lot, and M1ka and Yve are both really good mercy's

next mesa
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yo that's kinda pog

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but no one beats korean

raw ermine
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except for USA last year

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but 3/7 players are gone

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so rip

next mesa
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no I think

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if korea had a different roster

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they would have beat usa

raw ermine
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They needed more practice

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they didn't get much

next mesa
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also true

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and I think they should have picked twilight instead if iDK

raw ermine
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Twilight is Flex support

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IDK is main

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2 flex support wouldn't make sense. Lucio was integral in that meta

next mesa
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wasn't idk playing ana

raw ermine
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I do agree the support position was weird tho

next mesa
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wait

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or am I just tripping

raw ermine
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no

next mesa
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also didn't they switch up the roster

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like half way

raw ermine
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Bdosin-Idk was the support line

next mesa
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yeah yeah

raw ermine
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it was always the same 7 man roster

next mesa
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wait

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that was last last year

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ok but I mean this year doe

raw ermine
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Mano Choihyobin Carpe Architect Haksal IDK Bdosin

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this year?

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their is no team

next mesa
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I know

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I mean hypothetically

raw ermine
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ahh

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hmm

next mesa
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you get fleta carpe

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😳

raw ermine
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yeah

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and Rascal

next mesa
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twilight viol2t

raw ermine
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Void Smurf

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nah

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need a main support

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would be nuts tho

next mesa
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oh yeah

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need a lucio

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fdgod

raw ermine
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lmao

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he's French

next mesa
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fuck

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I dont remember

raw ermine
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Slime, Leejaegon

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all the good OWL teams (nearly all) have non korean Main supports

next mesa
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leejaegon then

raw ermine
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Moth, Fdgod, Astro

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yeah

next mesa
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yes because moth and astro

raw ermine
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I'd agree

next mesa
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is fearless korean

raw ermine
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yeah

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Him and smurf are both great

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Hard to say which one

next mesa
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true

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void and choi as well

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there are so many good koreans

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fuck

hot heart
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Wait

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OWWC is cancelled this year right?

raw ermine
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Blizzcon is

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so most likely

hot heart
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Ah

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Well

raw ermine
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Cause getting everyone to play online is impossible

hot heart
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Pain

worn falcon
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Yeah, there are some speculation of blizzcon moved to January 2021

hot heart
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That would be good for OW

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But would it be safe?

next mesa
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why not

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could be online

hot heart
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Yeah true

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Have you heard of the DCfandome?

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Something like that could be great

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We get more OW 2 news

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Pog

vagrant jacinth
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What was dcfandome?

south fern
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frogger is best lucio no cap

hot heart
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True

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Better than moth iDK leejaegon FdGod funnyastro and all the other lucio legends in OWL

lilac kindle
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Who's best Lucio(in your opinion)?

hot heart
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That's hard but

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Either moth or leejaegon

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Problem is they have very different playstyles so

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Idk

earnest leaf
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Moth's lucio is a hidden carry of shock rush comps

edgy tinsel
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^

earnest leaf
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I haven't seen much of LJG but from what I hear he is pretty solid

balmy wolf
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There’s a billion ways of playing Lucio. Each is a beast in his playstyle.

lilac kindle
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I'm a bit bias, cuz I go for shock, I think moth is pretty good, and non-OWL players I would go for redshell or frogger. LucioJam

edgy tinsel
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None OWL players

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if u dont say Jofi

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ur wrong

raw ermine
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Best Lucio's not in OWL? Jofi yeah

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Zholik too

edgy tinsel
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Like honestly

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how isnt all of BH in OWL yet?

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Jofi isnt even om BH now

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and he still hasnt been picked up

raw ermine
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They will get picked up for next season

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entire teams like that don't get signed midseason

shy grotto
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It should be after this season ends that they get signed if they even get signed in the first place

vagrant jacinth
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Glads v mayhem PogChimp

tropic herald
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Someone say LeeJaeGon

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?

hot heart
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Yes

tropic herald
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Stan LeeJaeGon

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He’s a feast or famine kinda gamer

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Often lots of feasts and some famines but the famines are hilarious to watch

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That’s not a bird it’s just LeeJaeGon in the skybox above your spawn

hot heart
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Lmao

next mesa
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astro

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just kidding idk

karmic grotto
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Hopefully they will bring back Horizon Lunar Colony and Paris

hot heart
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Pls god no

karmic grotto
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yes

edgy tinsel
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no

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stop

karmic grotto
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yes

lyric summit
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no

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paris is fine

hot heart
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Horizon is the worst map

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Nothing beats it

plush grail
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why does it always feel like the friday games are the not important games

primal minnow
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Mayhem vs Glads is important

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Battle for 5th place

upper niche
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If VAN d BOS, the SFS v WAS is completely unnecessary - nothign can change from it

karmic grotto
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Shock vs Justice will be an interesting one

hot heart
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Will decay play?

karmic grotto
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Yes

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He has been signed until end of season

hot heart
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Nice

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Washington lose but decay and jjanu sounds sick together tbh

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If Washington are willing to shell out this kinda money

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They could be a mid to top team next year

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Not like top top

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But

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Top 10

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Or top 12

white verge
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I think they’re gonna do a lot in the off season

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I could imagine they pay a lot for Decay/Jjanu and keep AimGod

karmic grotto
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Who ever made the decision to remove 6 stack in gm

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made this possible

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I can't even be mad at those 6 stackers if I was that high

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No way to play a competitive game with friends if you can't stack

tropic herald
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Okay but if they add back 6 stacks then you get 3 stacks back

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Do you really want 3 stacks

karmic grotto
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I see no issue with it. One the reasons high elo lost a big part of the player base is because of the limitations of stacking with friends

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If not, if you don't want to play against three stack owl players, then devs need to come up with a separate comp for players above certain SR

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I can imagine pro players like to play together, makes the matches more competitive

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not fun watching some high elo play with up to 800 SR difference in matchmaking

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makes no sense

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of course it doesn't. You removed 3+ stacking and you wonder why players stop playing ranked and matches become imbalanced?

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So in my perspective, if they avoided all placements to get to gold, to be able to play in high mmr because blizz/devs not allows that, it's not my problem

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They already know about it

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They just don't care

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at all

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They don't care for competitive

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never did

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I loved seeing three stacks games. Specifically elo guardians, what a great time

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Such a joy watching Jjonak livestream his matches

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He barely streams anymore (to my knowledge)

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Why would you stream if you can't play with more than 1 friend?

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They keep removing the stacks, even after Gm gets 3.9, 6 stack away, means ranked becomes even more empty

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Seeing all those streamers in one team was fun

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But no, let's ruin the fun more

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Who exactly is complaining about pros stacking? I wouldn't complain, I would use that opportunity to learn the game more or else I can't follow their pace

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You know the issue right now?

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It's exactly the same issue as before

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You are Masters, for no reason you get to play in a 4.5 match

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Like I was. I was playing with top 100 people, which I find a little extreme, but why? Not enough players to fill match so I, as mid masters got in the match, when it could have been prevented

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Buy like, it's situational

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But the players that complained, maybe even streamers, act like they play with pros all the time, when in reality, lots of t500 just scrim because ranked is not worth it

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In the past, the matches were more balanced on terms of mmr and sr, nowadays its not

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Too many t500 having masters in their matches, but how odd is it that I don't see masters complaining about it?

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Yet in the past complaining of getting high elo players (unlucky)

true hound
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my guy wrote a whole essay on why 2+ stacks should be allowed

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ya know despite everyone askign for it to be removed

true hound
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its all fun in games until you q into a 6 stack of q snipers

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or 6 stack of hackers

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or casually qing into NYXL

karmic grotto
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That happened without 6 stack

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Unlucky for fitzy

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The chance of that happening is so low

true hound
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not my point bruv no one really wants 6 stacking in gm back

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most pros asked for it

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it was really only a vocal minority who wanted it back

karmic grotto
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Who?

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I need names

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So if I understand

true hound
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u really want me to pull up a list of this shit

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dude

karmic grotto
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Pros wanted it gone ( unknown %), then it's removed, and pros then complain about quality of matches (which is due the stack system being removed, people stopped playing ranked all together)

true hound
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nobody wants to play against 3+ stacks as soloq at gm

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that sounds like ass

karmic grotto
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Well, then blizz should have done that in the first place

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There's no reason they can't implement it

true hound
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u just get hard stomp games if ur qing against 3+ stacks as a soloq player

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esp at GM where ur just gonna fight loaded stacks and just instantly lose the game

karmic grotto
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Then they should change to never see a stacks

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Problem solved

true hound
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bruh

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u cant see stacks already

karmic grotto
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They are there that's for sure

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If they really listened to community

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They should have separated different queues

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But they didn't

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Only role queue

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And open queue

true hound
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a pure 6 stack queue?

karmic grotto
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Yes, way more competitive

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Why you think 6 stack is empty in game?

true hound
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youd have to add a whole new mode im guessing then and remove 6 stacking in normal RQ

karmic grotto
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0 LFG for competitive

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They all scrim

true hound
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ye but youd have to implement a clans/teams system in game or something

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not throw 3+ stacks into GM

karmic grotto
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That's we want

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They don't listen

true hound
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i thought u wanted 3+ stacking in gm

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pepega

karmic grotto
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Yes, separate queues

true hound
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bruh

karmic grotto
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Solo queue, and then whatever how much you want to stack

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Because solo queue were complaining right?

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Then simply separate them

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Btw that 6 stack ladder was Brad's idea

true hound
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brad who

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from the reign

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?

karmic grotto
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Yes

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He suggested it as an idea

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The clan/guild system would be a great idea

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It's like Overwatch as the beginning

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When groups of players started making teams and competing against others

true hound
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oh boy

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Unkoe is streaming OW

raw ermine
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hahaha

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gonna pull a sinatraa

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Stream OW one day

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retire the next

true hound
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some dude in /r/cow said that its in French

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but Unkoe is saying that dallas is a shitshow

sullen berry
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finally

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some true validation

true hound
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saying "i cant tell you whats happening"

sullen berry
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c'est exceptional

true hound
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hopefullymy shit french skills come in handy

tropic herald
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Time to see if my spanish can hear French

forest raven
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I think I'll stay up for the games because I slept for five hours in the afternoon

karmic grotto
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Yeet

tropic herald
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Glads Mayhem should be alright

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Idk about the other one

forest raven
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I have like 500 tokens so I can buy one normal skin and still have enough for the all star skins

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What should I get

tropic herald
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Mayhem Sombra

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Just look at the colors on sombra

forest raven
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I don't play sombra

tropic herald
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Who do you play

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Ooh

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Get Shanghai Zarya

forest raven
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I have ashe shock already

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I don't have a mccree skin

tropic herald
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Paris McCree

forest raven
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Paris or Fusion mccree

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Because he's carpe's fav hero

tropic herald
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Idk

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Either

forest raven
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I do like the orange

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Could get an ana skin

balmy wolf
raw ermine
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Choi has exactly 27000 votes

sullen berry
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@forest raven I was going to say sigma, but why not roadhog?

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Glads last three matches and Spark's final match against Seouls the ones to watch

tropic herald
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Thus weekend is hot

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Glads Atlanta and Valiant fighting for #5

grizzled mango
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Is this the last week before the tourney?

true hound
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ye

grizzled mango
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And is the tourney next week?

next mesa
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seoul win both matches

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come on toyou

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CINDERELLA STORY

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DRAGONS WE'RE COMING FOR YOU BABY

sullen berry
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If there are still Dallas fans rooting for this team

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now is the time to show up

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peak dallas is breaking into top 12 after all

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first match served up very soon

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C o l o u r h e x M V P

gloomy vector
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this should be an ez tians wins right

limber pine
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You'd think

sullen berry
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quiet Sprite

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you know I was the only one bold enough to predict Jerry MVP before the start of this season

gloomy vector
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also im hoping for a glads wins against the mayhem but im not expecting it

limber pine
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speaking of

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I have to check the picks after this week

sullen berry
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anyways I'm out

#

this will be a sneeze for mayhem if Gladiators haven't got their execution sorted

#

and while I like watching boston... try

#

I'll be around for the APAC matches

gloomy vector
#

well glads have a chance

sullen berry
#

much like toronto has a chance tomorrow

gloomy vector
#

well a hurricane is near where i live so i mean

sullen berry
#

well watchpoint is live now

#

ignore

mint turtle
#

:)

gloomy vector
#

oh i believe the format is released for the playoffs

sullen berry
#

final week of games

gloomy vector
#

tier 3 sadge

sullen berry
#

they're pretty much the highest point in the matches this month after Countdown cup

gloomy vector
#

i can kinda agree with valiant pick

#

side is my favorite LUL

sullen berry
#

this is an interesting lineup, reinforce for soe

#

and sideshow as reinforce McCreeLUL

karmic grotto
#

???

#

wtf is this

edgy tinsel
#

boston lul

karmic grotto
#

no

#

the website

#

I can't even use the other controls

sullen berry
#

it's MVP season

#

there's a playlist

#

can't make it fullscreen

karmic grotto
#

-.-

#

scuffed

sullen berry
#

well not in a new tab

#

not really

gloomy vector
#

you cant make it fullscreen?

karmic grotto
#

no

#

so bullshit

sullen berry
#

cool

gloomy vector
#

i dont like updated page

sullen berry
#

it's chonkers

karmic grotto
#

It could work

#

IF I COULD CHANGE QUALITY

sullen berry
#

:))

gloomy vector
#

why was that aclip

#

it was so bad

karmic grotto
#

Time to watch YouTube then

#

garbage website

sullen berry
#

you've overreacting

raw ermine
#

omg

#

Sideshow called out Huk

#

on broadcast

#

wow

sullen berry
#

only guest sideshow could do that

karmic grotto
#

I'll leave it on the background

raw ermine
#

Yeah

karmic grotto
#

without sound

sullen berry
#

I'm at the gym

karmic grotto
#

xd

sullen berry
#

I don't know how it looks since I'm not at my pc

karmic grotto
#

like this

sullen berry
#

yep

#

that's what it was when i left

#

just press F you pepega

karmic grotto
#

Right side doesn't work

gloomy vector
#

yeah the page is trash now i dont like the update

#

well im expecting a titans win but hoping for a glads win

sullen berry
#

Titans 3-0
Mayhem 3-2

gloomy vector
#

tomorrows matches are cut and dry on whos winning

#

nah mayham f tier

sullen berry
#

yeah I might be exaggering

#

this week still big on placements

#

they're only 2-3 matches away

#

to securing where they are in top 12

#

everyone else kinda vibin at the bottom

gloomy vector
#

i hate the 3 word thing like the words dont vibe

#

like they dont work together

sullen berry
#

This video has been recommended to me a thousand times from play chat

#

They were so uncomfortable putting guangzhou top 4 so they worked with top 8

tulip shore
#

After playoffs will a new season start straight away?

raw ermine
#

No

#

they have a break for the players

tulip shore
#

How long

raw ermine
#

from the end of playoffs til around febuary

#

that was last year so It should be similar

tulip shore
#

That's a long time

raw ermine
#

yeah

#

Corona makes it difficult

tulip shore
#

So there will be no owl until Feb

raw ermine
#

Well

#

from the end of the season

#

til then

#

Is my prediction

tulip shore
#

I guess there will be some mini tournaments or something on yt

gloomy vector
#

prob not tho

tulip shore
#

So owl is only active about 6 months of the year

gloomy vector
#

i dont even know if OWWC is happening

raw ermine
#

last year was feb 14 to sept 29

#

OWWC won't

#

blizzcon is cancelled

plush grail
#

mics are so boomed lmao

raw ermine
#

doing it online would be awful

tulip shore
#

Who will we copy for the new meta

tawdry hamlet
#

time for Pogwave to bully uprising

raw ermine
#

imagine OWL but will more regions regions

tulip shore
#

If there is no owl

tawdry hamlet
#

lmao

#

that was fast

#

I swear everytime I look at titans carcar is dead

#

like everytime I look over and see lucio carcar respawning

raw ermine
#

lmaoooo

true hound
#

scary jerry

tulip shore
#

Lmao yeah dead again

tawdry hamlet
#

I honestly think he is one of the worst pros currently

#

or supports at least

#

idk who the worst players are

#

but car car isn't great lmao

#

well it appears boston isn't playing as bad as they did against la last week

#

but they are going to be swept

raw ermine
#

Carcar is having a tough time cause of his team

gloomy vector
#

well both of these teams are not the best so i dont expect much of the players

plush grail
#

lmaoooo

#

owl is so scuffed lately

tawdry hamlet
#

I mean Titans are off a big win so I expect them to be playing a bit more cocky

#

plus they are the clear superior team

plush grail
#

first hex casts sleep drunk and then just dies

#

love this

tawdry hamlet
#

it has been scuffed af though

#

reign lmaoo

#

that was scuffed

plush grail
#

hey if hex could just cut out at a very tense moment

#

we could get another jake-like pog caster moment

true hound
#

rolled

tulip shore
#

Who are the best titans players

#

Apart from pogwave

tawdry hamlet
#

shockwave

digital cloud
#

ksaa and dalton

tawdry hamlet
#

idk shockwave has really stood out recently

digital cloud
#

he said aside

#

from shockwave

tawdry hamlet
#

I saw that, I had already hit enter SadCatThumb

karmic grotto
#

You know what

tawdry hamlet
#

but probably ksaa and dalton

karmic grotto
#

Boston will come strong next seasons

digital cloud
#

doubt it

#

they are pretty much the untouchable team rn

#

two pedophile incidents

#

owned by Robert craft

#

bad team

tawdry hamlet
#

crome THe worst team on and off the game

#

how fun

gloomy vector
#

i dont think dalton is that good he just looks good rn because boston bad

tawdry hamlet
#

he isn't great but he showed some good play against reign

#

and the rest of titans are pretty meh

#

so he stands out

#

I honestly don't see uprising even being part of the league next season

tropic herald
#

okay

#

jerry kinda clean

#

okay boston well

#

well theyare somethin

karmic grotto
#

Boston just, doesn't click

#

Either bad coaching, or it just doesn't click

#

How is Boston still not good?

#

Titans and Justice went in some time chamber

#

And look how they play

#

FIRE MINERAL

balmy wolf
#

I persoanally think boston should do what titans did

#

Pick up a contenders team and hope

tawdry hamlet
#

pick up team doge pls

gloomy vector
#

its not like boston doesnt have good players its just they are bad as a team

tropic herald
#

hex emped both tanks then boston just stared at the enemy tanks until the emp wore off

tawdry hamlet
#

colorhex is pretty shit

#

imo

gloomy vector
#

^

#

he like never gets value

tropic herald
#

he had a fine emp

#

that boston just did nothing with

gloomy vector
#

shockwave has missed so many shots while he said he was doing amazing LUL

tropic herald
#

jerry almost took it back

gloomy vector
#

like i said they are bad as a team and at least 3 bad players

tawdry hamlet
#

I think Jerry would play much better on a team like toronto

gloomy vector
#

3 goodish/ok players but 3 bad players

balmy wolf
#

Fusions is pretty shit imo

tawdry hamlet
#

but logix is a good hitscan so he wouldn't really fit there

balmy wolf
#

I prefer Muma rein over fusions

tropic herald
#

myunbong is pretty good

#

jerry is alright

gloomy vector
#

yes he is good

tropic herald
#

punk is ok

balmy wolf
#

Yeah

tropic herald
#

everyone else is shit

balmy wolf
#

Punkk is prlly the best player on that team

gloomy vector
#

yes you said the 3 that is ok to goodish

tawdry hamlet
#

Jerry should go to reign hehe

#

replace saucy

hollow flame
#

Hey im trying to watch from my switch but it wont let me

balmy wolf
#

Remember tho some players cant shine unless they have a good team so some players might better better then they seem with boston

#

Look at fearless

#

0-40

hollow flame
#

Any ideas why i cant

balmy wolf
#

to one of the bests mts

gloomy vector
#

i agree some players look better than they are because they are on a bad team thats why i wish i could see someof them on diff teams

hollow flame
#

This is so stupid

#

Im just trying to get credits like wtf

tawdry hamlet
#

use the mobile app

gloomy vector
#

you cant get credits on mobile

#

i mean switch

hollow flame
#

My pc doesnt even let me log in

gloomy vector
#

you can get credits on mobile

tawdry hamlet
#

the mobile app gives credits almost always for me

hollow flame
#

Tac yeah you can

#

I have 15

gloomy vector
#

read the 2nd line

#

i corrected myself

hollow flame
#

No you can get them on switch

tropic herald
#

jerry

#

mmmmm

gloomy vector
#

how i thought you couldnt get creddits on YT

#

idk

vagrant jacinth
#

daamn jerry

tropic herald
#

JERRy

#

JERRY

feral zodiac
#

Jerry is much better than I expected

#

In this game

tropic herald
#

colourhex on the legs

#

damn

#

he swapped

fierce narwhal
#

JERRYYYYYYYYYY

karmic grotto
#

LMAO

fierce narwhal
#

lol

karmic grotto
#

wrong high light

#

NA strikes again

#

billion dollar league btw

fierce narwhal
#

ikr

gloomy vector
#

they are so even

fierce narwhal
#

whooo shockwave

tropic herald
#

man

feral zodiac
#

Billion dollar?

tropic herald
#

cockwave

feral zodiac
#

Surely not that much

plush grail
#

no owl isn't with a billion dollar lmao

gloomy vector
#

we dont know how much YT/Google paid for OWL rights

#

like the initial contract

vivid bough
#

i don't think you get credits on yt

gloomy vector
#

that what i thought

vivid bough
#

but owl on yt is working fine on my switch.

tropic herald
#

jerry??????

fierce narwhal
#

bikebike>carcar

#

trucktruck>carcar

#

planeplane>carcar

gloomy vector
#

who ever said boston is gonna do well next year thats too hard to believe unless they drop their whole team titans style

plush grail
#

if owl was worth a billion dollars they wouldn't have such a scuffed stream where 1 caster keeps dipping

gloomy vector
#

untrue

tawdry hamlet
#

even shit like wwe has those issues, bad connection can happen to anyone lmao

gloomy vector
#

you can be supported with a lot of money but the home internet is bad

#

i dont think they are worth 1 billion either but that statement is false anyways

digital cloud
#

you don't really see that for the dota or csgo streams from what I've seen

karmic grotto
#

@gloomy vector did you know in what context I said it?

gloomy vector
#

ive seen so many csgo errors on espn

karmic grotto
#

Basically a summary of all money that has been used so far in the owl, starting in 2018

gloomy vector
#

or espn 2 whatever the channel was

karmic grotto
#

Which is why I said billion dollar

#

160 million deal in 3 years with youtube gaming

gloomy vector
#

no i was talking about something different adriel

karmic grotto
#

ok

gloomy vector
#

i was talking about the YT contract purchase and the business as a wholle

#

or the streaming rights i mean

karmic grotto
#

They are 160 million, but those are spread between owl and cod

#

kinda odd

#

and 3 years?

#

Doesn't seem much

#

YouTube Gaming Still doesn't have emotes integration like Twitch

gloomy vector
#

no esports in anywhere other than asia doesnt make that much money

karmic grotto
#

or separate channels

#

Or command center

#

Which was a nice thing

gloomy vector
#

rn its not worth supporting thats why its 160 in 3 years

karmic grotto
#

only care about money

#

They can develop their own streaming thing in the owl launcher if they wanted

#

I would pay for that

#

Live matches with emotes integration?

tropic herald
#

only care about money
Le funny Activision corporate only cares about money

karmic grotto
gloomy vector
#

but they got a big paycheck from YT so they went for the money side than the support the infrastructure

tropic herald
karmic grotto
gloomy vector
#

i assume they did at least

karmic grotto
#

I bet

#

If the teams that decided to buy spots, decided to pressure blizzard

#

then blizzard would change its tone very quickly

gloomy vector
#

they are also going for more viewers than just gaming viewers because YT is for that

tropic herald
#

Activision could also just say fuck the orgs are run away with the money

karmic grotto
#

True, however

#

That would permanently damage their name

#

So they won't run away

tropic herald
karmic grotto
#

Especially when big corp are pressuring a small business

gloomy vector
#

they wouldnt do that to the Asian region because esports in asia makes too much money

karmic grotto
#

To me blizz is still small compared to the orgs that paid for spots

#

Those spots are nothing

tropic herald
#

They probably just gonna disregard NA and EU stuff

karmic grotto
#

pennies to them

tropic herald
#

China got more money

karmic grotto
#

Doubt, some NA teams are rich af

plush grail
#

lmaooo what the fuck is this advertisement for super

feral zodiac
#

Yo I appreciate them giving the genji players support like this

gloomy vector
#

yeah boi

#

LUL

tawdry hamlet
#

yeahh boi

plush grail
#

why does this fucking ad for super sound like one of the ''donate to africa'' ads

tawdry hamlet
#

super be like

tropic herald
#

There’s two kinda rich teams and one is fucking falls

#

Dallas

gloomy vector
#

thats right babby

plush grail
#

dallas is rich cause envy

gloomy vector
#

LUL this is too good

true hound
#

LMAO

tropic herald
#

Dallas mighty as well be lighting their money on fire with their investments into OWL

sullen berry
#

yo i dig this

plush grail
#

aight nvm this is legit billion dollar production

gloomy vector
#

what is this LUL

true hound
#

this is great

karmic grotto
#

xd

sullen berry
#

this is the California paid production

#

good segment

dreamy cave
#

What is this

sullen berry
#

we better see more from other regions next year

plush grail
#

art

gloomy vector
#

LUL mcgravey

karmic grotto
#

THEY SAID SEX

tropic herald
#

SEX SYMBOL

karmic grotto
#

FINED AND BANNED

raw ermine
#

wait

true hound
#

AHAHA

dreamy cave
#

Bruh

raw ermine
#

what

plush grail
#

SEX SYMBOL LIVE ON OWL

sullen berry
#

well this is better than being marketed headphones i wouldn't buy

tropic herald
raw ermine
#

I just came on the stream

#

and so this

feral zodiac
#

I lost

dreamy cave
#

Bruh

true hound
#

maketa

sullen berry
#

or razors with too much social clout

karmic grotto
#

they should fine the commentator

true hound
#

no

dreamy cave
karmic grotto
true hound
#

fine noah a produkshun

plush grail
#

just cuts back to the waitings screen like they didn't just show the best owl clip ever and said sex

dreamy cave
feral zodiac
#

Sex symbols of their generations

#

I agree

tropic herald
#

Halsey coming to Grand Finals PogT

karmic grotto
#

owl video commentary says sex symbol, blizzard asleep

also blizzard

lastro says sex big dick, BLIZZARD REAL SHIT

feral zodiac
#

Nah

#

Viol2t is toxic
BLIZZARD REAL SHIT

gloomy vector
#

anyways to continue what i was saying before this meme happened we already knew they cared more about money because of the token thing at the start of the season they didnt really care about getting us rewards for watching they just said YEP Money

feral zodiac
#

Pretty sure blizzard didn't care about lastro that much

plush grail
#

overwatch just showing us soft core porn with those mcgravy pics

tropic herald
#

They are already hyping up the next match

#

This one is already over

plush grail
#

sideshow pog hat

karmic grotto
#

at least boston had fun

#

hopefully

#

still paid 50k

plush grail
#

''it's not me egg man''

gloomy vector
#

where the muffin man

clear crane
#

damn. Boston is so trash.....

#

at least Titans are showing improvements

#

This team is straight garbo

feral zodiac
#

Boston 3-0's glads
Also boston
Loses 3-0 to titans

gloomy vector
#

well glads are a weird team

#

they lose easy matches

tropic herald
vagrant jacinth
sly fog
karmic grotto
#

lmao

#

for just existing

clear crane
#

o i just realized the reg-role-color-change channel

#

yay im blue

tropic herald
#

titans

#

how

true hound
#

shredlock did a dumb bubble

#

so they lost the fight

#

guess they won now though

vagrant jacinth
#

carcar

gloomy vector
#

remember its the 2 worst teams in the league playing against each other

vagrant lantern
#

im a bit new to this, can anyone help me understand what the "Unavaliable heroes" means? (Genji, tracer, zarya, brig)

karmic grotto
#

Boston would be smoked hard vs korean top teams

true hound
#

this bubble did like 0 for the team lol

gloomy vector
#

they cant use those heros this week because of hero pools

sullen berry
#

@clear crane Vishkar gang

karmic grotto
#

it can happen

true hound
#

but whatever Boston is getting hard 3-0d anyways

clear crane
#

im a bit new to this, can anyone help me understand what the "Unavaliable heroes" means? (Genji, tracer, zarya, brig)
@vagrant lantern just means they gonna be played this week

karmic grotto
#

Sometimes you have a bad bubble

true hound
#

ye

clear crane
#

@clear crane Vishkar gang
@sullen berry hell yaahh

vagrant jacinth
#

oof

ebon aurora
#

why is Josh casting now instead of Hex?

vagrant lantern
#

@clear crane wait wdym, why are they unavaliable then

clear crane
#

hero bans

#

basically they were played too much

vagrant lantern
#

right

clear crane
#

so blizzard said fuck off u cant use them this week

vagrant lantern
#

lmao

#

so only because they are overplayed?

karmic grotto
#

yes

clear crane
#

random lottery

karmic grotto
#

"random"

#

Sigma still not banned

#

but hey

#

we see dive

vagrant lantern
#

right

karmic grotto
#

nvm

gloomy vector
#

what sigma

karmic grotto
#

back to ds

vagrant lantern
#

for variety ig

karmic grotto
#

sigma never got banned

#

in owl hero pools

gloomy vector
#

know i know

tawdry hamlet
#

yay boston

clear crane
#

basically they are trying to make it so teams arent always picking one comp

#

some weeks it looks great

gloomy vector
#

whenever sigma plays it a good week PepeLaugh

feral zodiac
#

Remove the main meta tank and support and it's all wacky

clear crane
#

Fusions looking serviceable on Monkey

tropic herald
#

boston lets go they made A play

clear crane
#

or is it just Titans

feral zodiac
#

Both

clear crane
#

sad

#

now for boston to get full held Sadge

tawdry hamlet
#

that was bad for titans, they had 4 minutes on last and got it in overtime

true hound
#

tbf

tropic herald
#

boston wouldve held there had jerry not gotten picked early

true hound
#

Eich 3rd point is super hard to break

clear crane
#

lotta hybrid 3rd pt is pretty hard

#

Eich, Numbani

#

Kings Row

feral zodiac
#

Jerry just throwing smh

true hound
#

like ik its not OWL but ive gotten steamrolled on points 1-2 and then we held a team on Eich 3rd point for 6 minutes straight

feral zodiac
#

Basically a plat

#

Smh

gloomy vector
#

if rein is played thats wild

#

nvm

clear crane
#

isnt meta supposed to be hog zarya soon

feral zodiac
#

If you get stopped past the second corner it's hard to break

#

On eichenwalde third

tropic herald
#

Read the title

feral zodiac
#

Because u legit have nothing

gloomy vector
#

oh yeah what is dallas gonna do they lost like 3 different people the coach and 2 players

clear crane
#

continue to shit

feral zodiac
#

So far they seem to have gotten somewhat better

tropic herald
#

COME ON BOSTON YOUVE GOTTA BE KIDDIN GME

feral zodiac
#

Although there is much to improve from

#

So any improvement looks good

gloomy vector
#

ez 3k

fierce narwhal
#

LOLOLOL

tropic herald
#

boston tankline

#

why

gloomy vector
#

can you hack tire

tropic herald
#

just push

#

please

karmic grotto
#

wtf boston

tropic herald
#

HOW DOES CARCAR LIVE

#

HOW

#

BOSTON YOU ARE SO BAD

clear crane
#

its Bos

tropic herald
gloomy vector
#

i just dont understand how this version of boston can stay next year they might just get wiped from league

tropic herald
#

boston tanks mad space

#

ggs

clear crane
#

If Moth doesnt want to play in WC anymore

fierce narwhal
#

ggs

clear crane
#

USA Main Support might be one of Carcar or Halo PEPESMIRK

gloomy vector
#

ew

true hound
#

wasn’t Halo one of the best supports in contenders

#

Like anyone is gonna look shit on Boston

#

no mater how good u are

#

myunbong is like their only hope

sullen berry
#

nah colourhex jesus

fierce narwhal
#

Egg bat

#

hat

true hound
#

like titans are bad and shockwave shines but Boston is a whole new level of bad

fierce narwhal
#

lol

sullen berry
#

he is more famine > feast all season

gloomy vector
#

we already lost super sinatraa rawkus and corey so team usa isnt a thing