that is kind of cringe
#esports-discussion
digital cloud
you have bad opinions
vagrant jacinth
bait
digital cloud
you should consider having less bad opinions
vagrant jacinth
edgy tinsel
grizzled valve
u should consider that bastion is super hard to counter
edgy tinsel
LOL
grizzled valve
especially if they bring him out of no where
edgy tinsel
HAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHA
clear crane
only reason why it worked yesterday against paris is cause they had 0 plan for it
digital cloud
bastion
edgy tinsel
HAHAHAHHAHAHAHA
digital cloud
hard to counter
vagrant jacinth
i'm not even gonna
digital cloud
HAHAAHHAHAHAHAHAAAHAHAHAA
grizzled valve
name a easy coutner for bastion
tawdry hamlet
junkrat
digital cloud
teamwork
clear crane
and bastion works against titans cause titans is pretty bad in general
true hound
you realize they only won off the fact that its 2cp Point A, and that even if youre severely disadvantaged eventually a lucky pick will let you cap
vagrant jacinth
LMAO
edgy tinsel
ANYTHING WITH DAMAGE?
true hound
hog
grizzled valve
junk is not an easy counter
grizzled valve
if the bastion is competent they can shred them
edgy tinsel
Ok white name
true hound
they didnt win because they picked bastion, titans got them down to one fight you realize
outer zenith
true hound
smh
vagrant jacinth
bro, you only need like one braincell to beat bast
vagrant jacinth
lmao
true hound
pepega
vagrant jacinth
anywayss
edgy tinsel
.....
grizzled valve
yeah
true hound
POGWAVE
silk frost
shockwave is too good
edgy tinsel
White name =/= race
grizzled valve
are you-
vagrant jacinth
now point b
outer zenith
Hey... I have a white name too, jerk.
dark hedge
huge emp
grizzled valve
white name? are u dumb
outer zenith
dark hedge
oof
edgy tinsel
UR NAME
clear crane
..............
edgy tinsel
IS LITERALLY WHITE
clear crane
okay just get out
dark hedge
titans might take the map
clear crane
ur being stupid af
dark hedge
tf are u arguing about
grizzled valve
wgats wrong with a white name?
edgy tinsel
@dark hedge i called him white name
vagrant jacinth
absolute pepega
edgy tinsel
and hes basically saying im racist
grizzled valve
when did i call you racist lmao?
vagrant jacinth
can't believe they capped both lmao
fierce narwhal
lol
edgy tinsel
ur literally saying i called u white name as a race thing
digital cloud
reading this hurts my brain
true hound
@edgy tinsel it was a joke
edgy tinsel
and that its completely related to race
grizzled valve
someone cant take a joke
grizzled valve
@edgy tinsel it was a joke
dark hedge
im so confused
outer zenith
It's always those damn blue names. Jeez.
true hound
yellow 4 life
clear crane
awwwwwwwwww no bastion
true hound
sadge
grizzled valve
fuckin blue names
edgy tinsel
"it was a joke" ye ok thats why u literally tried defending ur point for ages
true hound
i think they realized titans countered their bastion super well
fierce narwhal
volskaya always goes to like 10 point caps
grizzled valve
im racist to smurfs btw
edgy tinsel
clown
fierce narwhal
its annoying
vagrant jacinth
leggo
grizzled valve
blue name
fierce narwhal
lol
edgy tinsel
take ur shitty takes somewhere else
grizzled valve
smurf idiot
digital cloud
can we get back to mocking polar for hating on bastion instead of this
fierce narwhal
im racist to smurfs btw
@grizzled valve lmao
grizzled valve
lol
edgy tinsel
"bastion is hard to counter" gtfo
grizzled valve
cuz he is if you dont have a plan?
dark hedge
how did they not kill edison
clear crane
wat a fast take
grizzled valve
shut up blue name
digital cloud
ah yes
grizzled valve
smurf
digital cloud
the classic pro team with no plan
grizzled valve
well they werent expection a bastion im assuming
digital cloud
after yesterday?
grizzled valve
cuz he shreded them
digital cloud
that would be stupid
outer zenith
Massive EMP.
grizzled valve
well it still worked for em
fierce narwhal
wow
true hound
atlanta has more ults loading up though
fierce narwhal
tf do u mean smurf
@edgy tinsel from the movie lol
true hound
i dont think the primal was needed
fierce narwhal
yea
vagrant jacinth
daammn shredlock
deep wolf
lets go titans!!! .
vagrant jacinth
monkey stronk
grizzled valve
together monki strong
gloomy vector
omg i went to go eat and this match is still going wow
fierce narwhal
that flux????
outer zenith
RIP Hawk.
grizzled valve
this is a good match
vagrant jacinth
HAWK
fierce narwhal
omg i went to go eat and this match is still going wow
@gloomy vector LOL I DID THE EXACT SAME
true hound
SHOCKWAVE GOT A BOB AGAIN?
deep wolf
POGWAVE
true hound
WHAT THE HELL
dark hedge
holy shit
grizzled valve
JEEZUZ
true hound
JEEZ
dark hedge
shockwave is insane
clear crane
Yo Reign about to get completely fuckedddddddddddd
grizzled valve
SHOCK IS OC
vagrant jacinth
SHOCKWAVE
digital cloud
dang
grizzled valve
MY GODDDDDD
fierce narwhal
SHOCKWAVE?????????? 2 bobs one fight??
vagrant jacinth
WAT
true hound
wait wait fellas, give Shredlock some credit
grizzled valve
HES SHAKING
true hound
he camped that spot and knew they were gonna bongo
and he took the bongo and removed so much of the pressure they would have gotten
deep wolf
cockwave got like >50% ult with one tnt
edgy tinsel
@vagrant jacinth @tawdry hamlet @true hound they should've ran the bastion again ... u know bc hes hard to counter
they would've won
grizzled valve
still insane he got 2 ults one fight
edgy tinsel
clearly
true hound
huge cockwave
fierce narwhal
ikr
true hound
yeah
grizzled valve
especially bob
vagrant jacinth
huuuuge cockwave
grizzled valve
this mans still on the bastion thing
edgy tinsel
so is widow
grizzled valve
itsa personal opinion
clear crane
wats the next map
vagrant jacinth
can't remember ngl
vagrant jacinth
it'll pop up in a sec
clear crane
if its route 66 then im ready for another 4 min Saucy tire
edgy tinsel
was i talking to u? lmfao
vagrant jacinth
lol
outer zenith
If Shock had swapped to Bastion against Philly, I guarantee you they would have won that.
fierce narwhal
SHOCKWAVEEEEE
vagrant jacinth
i almsot forgot about the saucy junk
outer zenith
clear crane
ayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
grizzled valve
bringing up the bastion you obviously had me in mind
edgy tinsel
If i was talking to u i would've @d u
grizzled valve
no one else responded and i diddent want u to be lonley ❤️
edgy tinsel
fleta blade > akm blade
vagrant jacinth
i responded smh
vagrant jacinth
4 min saucy tire build up let's go
clear crane
if u think bastion is hard to counter, den u never had teamwork before
vagrant jacinth
fuck i hope titans win this so i can sleep
edgy tinsel
if u think bastion is hard to counter, den u never had teamwork before
^
gloomy vector
LUL
grizzled valve
i play qp alot so your prolly right
gloomy vector
hari think of it in this way more tokens
clear crane
Saucy junkrat lets goooooo
gloomy vector
LUL
vagrant jacinth
my desire for tokens > my need for sleep
upper niche
mute, leave page open
deep wolf
3am gang
upper niche
drop top 240p
vagrant jacinth
nooo, i actually like watching the games
i HAVE to see them
i haven't even checked those yet
verbal crag
not related to this current match but...did shock throw yesterday? I didn't want the shock/philly match.
gloomy vector
its more optimized for asia
vagrant jacinth
philly played more fast-paced, don't think shock were ready for it
gloomy vector
they werent playing well on this pool
fierce narwhal
saucy no junk 😦
gloomy vector
but philly did play great
tropic herald
Philly played very aggro unlike their normal regular aggro
verbal crag
hmmm I was just wondering if shock just let them win
upper niche
uh, yeah, no.
gloomy vector
with that huge head of echo LUL
gloomy vector
i mean 2 min hack is not too hard
verbal crag
probably cause these games don't matter as much.
fierce narwhal
ok
gloomy vector
well its possible
verbal crag
it's looking like they might
clear crane
atlanta is boomed
gloomy vector
i might actually get the all star skins this year because its finally tanks turn to get them
i just hope its tanks i play and not like ball
gloomy vector
i missed jjonaks one because i thought it was gonna be there forever
fierce narwhal
yea same
upper niche
Have they been fining players for not wearing team jerseys during matches? 😄
gloomy vector
has a player not worn their jersey
fierce narwhal
lol
gloomy vector
i mean lawyers got contempt in court for not wearing suits during online meetings
digital cloud
Atlanta boomed
gloomy vector
so it would make sense
upper niche
Yeah, Shockwave isn't wearing it.
fierce narwhal
wow
deep wolf
reign fans on suicide watch
upper niche
OWL fine people over all kinds of crazy shit so who knows.
fierce narwhal
lol someone in yt chat said platlanta
gloomy vector
yeah people were fined during the Pepe the racist thing that happened
tawdry hamlet
lmao they really do be playing route 66 bad again
rapid locust
roolf was shooting dooms feet
upper niche
Might be better to just not have yourself on camera if you're going to get fined for not wearing a jersey in an online match heh. I dunno why some players are allowed to not have them.
Only reason I can think of is bandwidth.
vagrant jacinth
what lmao
gloomy vector
yeah if its not available then they cant do it
tawdry hamlet
pogwave better go to a different team please
fierce narwhal
already duplicate!?
tawdry hamlet
he is like going ham
fierce narwhal
wow that was fast
gloomy vector
like if it limits performance then they shouldnt be expected to run it
tawdry hamlet
holy shit atlanta
upper niche
Shockwave should have just ulted, he would have built another one quick enough.
rapid locust
oh boy
fierce narwhal
ohhhhhh emp cancelled WOW
tawdry hamlet
just popping off
gloomy vector
this is such a sad match
vagrant jacinth
saucy and route 66
gloomy vector
how is Atlanta like 5thish seat
fierce narwhal
lol
tawdry hamlet
idk if atlanta is playing like shit or if titans are like doing a lot better
I think it is both
gloomy vector
yeah prob both
tawdry hamlet
because atlanta just barely lost to paris
vagrant jacinth
both ye
tawdry hamlet
and now titans is rolling them
fierce narwhal
yea
tawdry hamlet
also why paris in na and new york in apac, is there a reason for that?
deep wolf
good pools for titans too?
gloomy vector
ok so the paris thing is they are not the best they had a good streak but now kinda disappointing
tawdry hamlet
I can't believe the titans got this
fierce narwhal
also why paris in na and new york in apac, is there a reason for that?
@tawdry hamlet a lot of nyxl players live in asia
fierce narwhal
also why paris in na and new york in apac, is there a reason for that?
@tawdry hamlet so they get better ping and stuff when playing in asia
tawdry hamlet
boston yesterday was physically painful to watch
deep wolf
atlanta is boston'd
fierce narwhal
lol
gloomy vector
wait so i was wonder if the teams in the finals flying to asia?
tawdry hamlet
First round boston didn't even touch a point lmao
fierce narwhal
lol
gloomy vector
i mean for connection sake
verbal crag
they are
tawdry hamlet
but damn pogwave is having a good series
gloomy vector
ok i wasnt sure if that was announced
verbal crag
just to the top 2
upper niche
So is VAN win this, they will be 5-14 and -25 with two more matches to play.
verbal crag
so shock philly
fierce narwhal
atlanta might win
vagrant jacinth
PHAT
fierce narwhal
high nooooon
rapid locust
so is titan's good now, or did atlanta throw up to this point?
tawdry hamlet
atlanta threw up
upper niche
ouch.
gloomy vector
LUL
clear crane
ATL TRASHHHHHHHHH
digital cloud
vancouver lol
rapid locust
wow
vagrant jacinth
LMAO
deep wolf
REIGN BOOMED
gloomy vector
HOW IS ALANTA 5TH SEAT
tawdry hamlet
lmao
upper niche
It's all Babybay's fault :p
digital cloud
ATLANTA THROW
rapid locust
oh my god
true hound
ATLANTA SIT
fierce narwhal
WOW
tropic herald
Atlanta are a disappointment
true hound
POGWAVE STAND
vagrant jacinth
little island
ATLANTA REIGN OMEGALUL
tropic herald
Hawk really waited forever to reset
rapid locust
the titans are still TITANS
vagrant jacinth
WAVE
fierce narwhal
lol
deep wolf
https://i.imgur.com/2lJuV9T.png HAPPY BOIS
fierce narwhal
lol
tawdry hamlet
DPS stepped tf up on vancouver
upper niche
Jake grippin that mic like a kid with a lollypop
weak bolt
ATL may have just thrown away their 5th place
little island
Dalton goat
little island
DaltWave carry
fierce narwhal
WHy did jake retire from owl?
little island
Cause he was on Houston LULW
fierce narwhal
oh o
rapid locust
LOL
fierce narwhal
k
gloomy vector
he didnt want to play professionally im assuming
fierce narwhal
ok
upper niche
Well... that question presumes Houston didn't have other players they wanted to replace him with.
fierce narwhal
ye
vagrant jacinth
good caster, happy he's around
fierce narwhal
yep
vagrant jacinth
anyway, sleep 😌
gloomy vector
I would say reign could easily beat glads but like bruh
@tawdry hamlet no Glads have been looking good recently
upper niche
Okay, so Washington now need a small miracle to not finish 12th - they need to beat SFS, and probably need to do it 3-0 to have a real chance - and even that relies on VAN losing their next 2 matches, including vs Boston.
gloomy vector
cya hari
fierce narwhal
Okay, so Washington now need a small miracle to not finish 12th - they need to beat SFS, and probably need to do it 3-0 to have a real chance - and even that relies on VAN losing their next 2 matches, including vs Boston.
@upper niche not possible
little island
Possible but not likelt*
upper niche
In fact, if VAN beat BOS, we don't even need to play the WAS v SFS game.
little island
Likely*
fierce narwhal
yeah true
vagrant jacinth
cya hari
@gloomy vector byee
little island
Titans beating Boston is likely.
upper niche
If VAN d BOS, the outcome of the WAS v SFS can't change the seeds at all.
gloomy vector
yeah titans are looking better tbf
gloomy vector
i mean they just beat a team in contention for 5th seat easily
upper niche
GLA won't pass ATL by beating them, and both have a match against high teams to play.
tawdry hamlet
lmao the state farm stat "This is their first win to a non-uprising team since June 21st" lmao
weak bolt
Glads have 3 next week
gloomy vector
oof
upper niche
Wait WTF, he's playing from Denmark?!
weak bolt
Florida, ATL and LAV
upper niche
with that ping??
upper niche
On Hitscan?!
deep wolf
wtf
gloomy vector
i mean they have a chance to beat all three of those teams theyve been playing well
upper niche
A lot of change can happen in the middle seeds next week. ATL, VAL, DAL, TOR all can move up and down.
upper niche
hm, wait, Toronto only have one match to play, so they only play 20 games?
DAL v Toronto won't even come down to the head-to-head because they changed the rules to use win percentage.
gloomy vector
yeah 1st and 2nd 3-4th and 5th-the rest is like completely different leagues of their own
outer zenith
weak bolt
5th/6th/7th are the key ones. 5th bypasses a whole round of matches. 6th/7th gets you priority picks over the shit teams
upper niche
I need that emote with Genji drowned in healing icons 😄
gloomy vector
this weekend has been full of upsets like really other than the 2nd shock match
upper niche
5th probably won't change. It requires GLA to beat ATL, and also GLA to beat FLA or VAL
vale pond
because if you end up 6th you need to take 3 hours of your day to shit on boston
gloomy vector
i mean if you win you get to be the dark horse victor
tropic herald
That’s why Shock losing to Philly if anything was good for Shock and bad for philly
weak bolt
LAV should be 5th now I think?
tropic herald
1 and 2 have virtually no differences but now Shock has motivation
vale pond
no
upper niche
ATL and VAL are both at 10-8/10-9.
vale pond
Atl needs to lose 3 times
weak bolt
Is that updated following todays results?
vale pond
bc their map diff is so high
gloomy vector
well altana has hard matches next week
upper niche
There's no ties there because it goes to win percentage.
next mesa
Who's toyou
upper niche
VAL v VAN and GLA. GLA v ATL, FLM and VAL.
vale pond
New seoul player right?
upper niche
ATL v GLA and SFS.
next mesa
Seoul has been taking a big dump
weak bolt
ATL are 10-9 and LAV are 11-9 now I think after those results?
tropic herald
Atlanta really didn’t want to lose
But they have two more matches that are very losable so rip them
upper niche
So you have...
VAL (10-9/18 -3) v VAN, GLA
GLA (9-9/18 +3) v ATL, FLM, VAL
ATL (10-9/10 +11) v GLA, SFS.
ah yeah, it hasnt updated.
vale pond
10-9/19*
tropic herald
I think glads come out on top right?
vale pond
also why do they have less games then the top 4 seeds
weak bolt
OWL website hasn't updated yet
tropic herald
It’s between the LA teams really
weak bolt
ATL should be 10-9 / 19, LAV 11-9/19, LAG 9-9 / 18
upper niche
@vale pond Playoffs and you cant have every play even with 13 teams, plus next week.
upper niche
oh, has the VAL score not been updated either?
vale pond
So it could go either way
weak bolt
Neither has been updated yet, same for Toronto/Shock
upper niche
shit, I remember back when it was automatic and tied to the system :/
vale pond
Give them some time
upper niche
They seem to be doing it manually now.
vale pond
Thats odd
weak bolt
all 3 teams have 9 losses. LAV 11 wins, ATL 10 wins, LAG 9 Wins. LAV have 1 more match, ATL 2 matches, LAG 3 matches.
vale pond
Who does lag play?
weak bolt
LAV, ATL and Florida
vale pond
They lose 2 of those games and the third is a tossup
I imagine atl will overprepare for them expecting to take an L to the shock
weak bolt
ATL play Shock & LAG
dusky canopy
Valiant have two matches next week
weak bolt
oh shit they do. Did they get a bonus win at some stage?
upper niche
yeah, the monthly tourneys
dusky canopy
Yeah, they made it to one of the semifinals
weak bolt
They count yeah, they also count to matches played overall
dusky canopy
You get extra wins if you place 1-3
weak bolt
so LAV are effectively 11-9/20 instead
dusky canopy
I don't think tourney games count toward total played
weak bolt
Bonus wins do yeah
Twitter
Read few of his comments on that. The bonus wins counting to matches played fucks over shock
upper niche
Originally it wasn't going to be that way, and its not reflected on the ladder data.
Just another example of how OWL can't run a piss-up in a pub.
I can't see any evidence to suggest that it's going to be added to the MP.
weak bolt
https://twitter.com/liem_ross/status/1295029323985018880 is probably best explanation. Even shocks GM retweeted it
Twitter
upper niche
But... that's not how it works...
wait, the ladder doesn't seem to be correct. It has shock having 22 wins, which doesn't match what he's said there.
It seems to have credited the May Melee and Summer Showdown, but not the Countdown Cup.
... Countdown Cup placing did count for bonus wins didn't it?
upper niche
So why is it missing from the OWL website ladder data?
weak bolt
23-3 currently, with 2 games left
upper niche
okay, that makes some more sense. Holy fuck how hard is it for them to update the ladder data immediately, it's a row in a DB table.
dusky canopy
Doesn't seeding only look at number of wins, not win percentage?
weak bolt
No, it's win %
dusky canopy
Fusion only up now cuz Shock has two more games to play
upper niche
@dusky canopy It used to, they changed it.
weak bolt
Fusion are #1 seed confirmed because of this system
upper niche
So Shocks win percentage should be over 100%, because it SHOULD be 25 wins from 21 games played.
And Philly's should be 24 from 21 games played.
so Shock should be higher. But somewhere along the line they've decided to calculate it to penalise teams gaining those extra wins, not reward them.
worn hornet
aww, Soe
outer zenith
They got Soe...
weak bolt
Now i'm wondering if it'll come back to bite LAV having that 1 bonus win
gloomy vector
emote control everyday POG
tropic herald
dark hedge
wait how did the titans win
limber pine
true hound
All of titans did well while shockwave fucked as usual
verbal crag
Reign have never really been good this season so it's not a total surprise
fierce narwhal
yeah
karmic grotto
lol
he farms them in scrims
Anyway, it's the tanks job to create space for dps, so ksp had much space to workout
compare that to...
ah yes, paris
nosmite
LOL
sullen berry
I'm afraid to watch the score results now
Just witness glory to the Titans name after last win against dallas last month
sturdy drift
karmic grotto
?
balmy wolf
Carpe?
sullen berry
Yeah he's asking about the friendly banter from carpe after the match against the shock
After being pummeled by Shock during the Countdown cup, it's "trash talk" the other team two weeks apart and has nothing to do with the other
earnest leaf
It was all pretty tame though
tawdry hamlet
After Titans v reign I look forward to Titans v Boston lmao
They will fucking stomp I hope
feral zodiac
Titans looking good
forest raven
Valiant reverse swept Florida
tulip shore
Reign inexplicably bad on route 66
Problem for them
Caused them to lose 2 series
Paris and titans
vagrant jacinth
Valiant reverse sweep was beautiful
pale roost
Reign was defeated ? Am I hearing that right ? And by none other than the young Titans ?
That's what you get Atlanta for being too toxic both in-game and out ! Same situation as with Florida in the May melee . Pretty pathetic imo
feral zodiac
Expecting no trash talking in sports is like expecting no coffee in a coffee shop
true hound
word
fierce narwhal
yea
misty glade
I support London Spitfire and my favourate players are Krillin and Highly
tawdry hamlet
I like ww2 planes so spitfire are cool lmao
vagrant jacinth
Trash talk is a basic requirement in sports
next mesa
we need more trash talk and drama in the league
vagrant jacinth
More trash talk yes pls
Glads v mayhem next week cool
Honestly, there's quite a few good games next week
tropic herald
The games are good for all the teams fighting for 5th
tropic herald
BQB gonna smoke him
true hound
then u got valiant vs titans as well
tropic herald
I can see a world that Titans beat Valiant
tropic herald
He’s been bonkers
Also not really impressed by KSF sombra
Then again not impressed by Dalton sombra either
Although Titans in double hitscan snipers was nice
vagrant jacinth
Titans will 3-0
next mesa
valiant?
vagrant jacinth
Titans beat val though? Idk
edgy tinsel
I just want london to get some maps
next mesa
who they playin
nyxl
might be another L
wtf seoul playing london AGAIN
lol
3 times in 2 weeks
raw ermine
yeah they played a couple of times
tropic herald
Both teams were severely under 21 games lol
balmy wolf
I am mad at nyxl
what do ppl think it is
coaching?
motivation?
Like I picked two teams when I first watched the league, NY bbecause its my home, and shanghai because they were the worst. So like, what happened to the nyxl?
tulip shore
They have jjonak and other good players so no idea how they manage to be Garbo
next mesa
coaching
tropic herald
They’ve barely made any roster changes since season 1 so basically they are the stagnant while the league passes them
next mesa
they should have bianca in
and anamo on mercy
but nooo
and they run libero on hitscan
mccree
when they literally have sbb
like
tropic herald
I think they should run Mandu and Bianca more
edgy tinsel
@next mesa Libero, a world class projectile
on hitscan?
Are they trying to make him like profit?
balmy wolf
He playes hitscan too but idk why they do it over nenne or sbb
They specialize in hitscan and are much better
stiff tree
unpopular opinon: jjonak is bad
balmy wolf
He’s not. But he is not dominant anymore. And the team is a joke.
plush grail
But a lot of other players have caught up
@feral zodiac honestly also applies to sbb and whoru
they were just way ahead but people caught up
next mesa
no point playing whoru when you have haksal
who is just better whoru
yeah libero was on cree
like im sure he's good but
why not play sbb
true hound
@next mesa u play Haksal cause he’s a team player
not necessarily because he’s a better genji
Cause they’re same level
They just play different
whoru is the type of dude to go for assassination type plays and the mechanically intense shit a lot, but that’s not gonna always work in OWL
true hound
also Haksal has his mei so you’d probably play him
next mesa
nah they played haksal
and libero
on first map
second map nenne libero
libero still on cree
btw I didn't know profit played ashe
was always fits
but fits is on sombra
ok they played libero nenne
on final map
I dont get it why is sbb not on sombra
and nenne on mccree
this is all sus
vagrant jacinth
tbf profit can play anything, but if they wanted to run ashe why not nenne?
digital cloud
lol
true hound
Twitter
feral zodiac
What stream was that in @true hound
true hound
@feral zodiac LAV is doing some tournament thing I think
hot heart
Tbh masaa did good in theit recent match from what i saw
But yeah
There are better players for their positions
hot heart
?
feral zodiac
The valiant feed fest
silk frost
Masaa good tho :<
next mesa
is atlanta playing lr1s instead of dogman
karmic grotto
He's not leaving lol
People overreacting for no reason
I knew he wouldn't be gone, even without him explaining he worded it badly
digital cloud
NOOOO
Atlanta needs to replace him
and houston just needs to dump the whole team and grab another one
earnest leaf
I mean jecse meko danteh are all still solid
Linkzr hasn't been that bad either
Blase has had his moments
They just need an actual MT
true hound
^^
Blase works well as their specialist
Dinkzr has been becoming more consistent IMO
jecse rapel supp line is great, Danteh is always amazing (crazy sombra) and Meko is Meko
idk if they’re gonna release hydration or not
true hound
like idk what you’d play Hydration for
you have Danteh for mei, you have Blase for genji and doom
and it’s clear they want Blases doom and possibly genji over Hydration
tulip shore
Have we seen any footage yet of owl comps and gameplay for the new patch?
earnest leaf
No they won't play on the new patch until playoffs
silk frost
houston + Fusions/Myungbong/Diya
silk frost
it's perfect
dry karma
Is it a hot-take to say that if Boston were to pick up 02 Blast and keep myungbong/Jerry they could contend for a championship?
next mesa
yes
do you expect contenders team to beat shock and dragons
although they do got kaiser
earnest leaf
I don't think jerry is super capable of contesting ans/striker
earnest leaf
He's a mediocre hitscan
And dps is one of the roles imo on a team that can standout if the team as a whole sucks
like decay
his team was ass but he popped tf off at times
and shockwave
next mesa
jerry had some pop off moments
tropic herald
Boston should sign Merit and Pelican
next mesa
maybe dissolve whole team
release myunbong from jail
pls
boston just fucking give up
true hound
no matter who they sign as long as Boston coaching remains this way they will be a horseshit team
they have good players but they just can’t function
next mesa
I bet crusty's big brain can foresee the future and know that ta1yo will be op at an unreleased hero
true hound
lul
digital cloud
ta1yo is already a decent player
I assume he will be molded to perfection eventualy
eventually*
true hound
if crusty signed him I doubt he’s gonna be sitting on the bench
Shock rotate their DPS in and out and play just as good
next mesa
crusty leaves no one at the bench
balmy wolf
expect nevix
balmy wolf
nah thats avast
hot heart
Ta1yo could be the next sinatraa
balmy wolf
nevix was played in some instances
hot heart
Or rascal
balmy wolf
but he was never truly benched forever
hot heart
Avast on Boston
Didnt know he was there
Until i checked former players on bostons liquipedia
Ta1yo could actually be sick
raw ermine
I though about them picking up O2. Get Mandu from NYXL (prob not but worth a shot)
Jerry -pelican-proper is pretty good
but Huk won't do it
balmy wolf
thats actually expensive
raw ermine
true
upper niche
okay, WTF is this BS? https://overwatchleague.com/en-us/contenders/standings
Is there any kind of explanation anywhere as to how these points are awarded, or even who played who??
sullen berry
You're not seriously crying foul on the contenders scoring system?
Nobody knows what's going on but have a look at CDL, it's similar to how they score as if they were a series of tournaments each season
upper niche
I'm only crying foul in the sense that I can find no information on how it works. I don't know if it's good or bad because I can't find the info on how they derive the points - or even find the details on the match results that has those points awarded.
From all I can tell they just made up a bunch of numbers and chucked them in a table.
silk frost
#1 team gets 100 and people not worth mentioning get like 10-20
2nd and 3rd/4th get different amounts in different regions rn I think
2nd get 50 most places and 3/4 get 35
hot heart
What do winners of the gauntlet get again?
hot heart
Yeah but
silk frost
Owl contracts
hot heart
How much
silk frost
That goes to the org tho
hot heart
Yeah how much would players earn from that?
edgy tinsel
okay, WTF is this BS? https://overwatchleague.com/en-us/contenders/standings
Is there any kind of explanation anywhere as to how these points are awarded, or even who played who??
@upper niche if you wanna know who played who
you click on the little thing called
✨ S c h e d u l e ✨
upper niche
Yeah, I get that you think you're cool being a smartass, but the schedule shows no matches at all for any of the weeks.
Oh look, the full schedule! gasp!
hot heart
Gasp
lilac beacon
Darkmode best team SA?
edgy tinsel
Yeah, I get that you think you're cool being a smartass, but the schedule shows no matches at all for any of the weeks.
@upper niche
then go on something called ✨ l i q u i p e d i a ✨
upper niche
why the hell should I be needing to use a third-party site to find the official results of matches or a tournament? It's just another example of how OWL/AB/MLG can't run a piss-up in a pub.
hot heart
I dont understand what that phrase means yet i know it represents what you're talking about pretty well
edgy tinsel
You're acting like blizzard are the only ones who dont keep up with their pro scene
Ubisoft doesnt even keep up with their tier 1 scene, let alone t2
vagrant jacinth
It means they're garbage at organising
balmy wolf
fastest way to farm owl coins? @ me
karmic grotto
💩
balmy wolf
i live in uk and all the matches are from 8:00 until 2 in the morning
and then a few of the asia games are in the morning
so i rarely get to watch any
so
can i leave something on the stream overnight?
can i mute it or do i have to plug headphones in and put the volume at lowest?
@ me
vagrant jacinth
Just have stream running and don't mute it @balmy wolf
balmy wolf
ok but i dont wanna hear it
so should i just have stream running with headphones plugged in?
vagrant jacinth
Sure
balmy wolf
k ty
balmy wolf
does ball zarya ashe genji zen mercy work in comp or was that in owl only because of hero limitations? @me
true hound
obtuse path
or 
? Who will win?
balmy wolf
well sf would but philly fluked
raw ermine
philly just won
balmy wolf
if only they could do that when it mattered
@true hound i literally just came from watching that lol
hot heart
Philly should feel good about winning
But
Shock usually come back and roll
So they should be careful how they play
next mesa
Idk they don't just get 3-0 for no reason
sullen berry
@true hound such a good video explaining why Eileen and Rio looked bad that day. Chengdu really clapped nyxl some sense
Plat chat waiting lobby
No Reinforce
sullen berry
Wack
They're talking about essentially a gauntlet for OW League
I'd like some teams to crossover, which was the original intent of many homestands during the middle of the homestands schedule
"Lots of people don't care much about how every map matters, It's fun for (casuals) when they get to watch their team play against each other"
Bren has a good idea of what people want?
And he's being rational about it?
hot heart
He has seized control of his mind
digital cloud
bren, if reinforce has you hostage, blink three times in a row
balmy wolf
fortnite
hot heart
Get out
bitter grotto
@exotic crescent don't advertise here
true hound
vagrant jacinth
Mans goddamn nutty
maiden mauve
what’s everybody’s fav OWL team?
raw ermine
↖️
vagrant jacinth
upper niche
Being from across the pond I don't really have any particular allegiances to teams.
opaque ginkgo
I like and
maiden mauve
my least favs are the shock and the fusion
maiden mauve
yeah there’s a lot of players i like
agile pewter
my top 3 in order are
vagrant jacinth
There's a few teams I like tbf
next mesa
Void underrated
true hound
bro void is literally mvp candidate and considered a #1 ot
true hound
no top 3 is 1. Carpe 2. Alarm 1. Carpe
flat brook
lean spire
true hound
smh https://youtu.be/Of0YdvBPtG0 @lean spire
vagrant jacinth
nyxl can get outta here
maiden mauve
no top 3 is 1. Carpe 2. Alarm 1. Carpe
@true hound i may be extremely biased because i’m a eternal fan but sparkle is pretty good…
vagrant jacinth
he's talking about mvp finalists
maiden mauve
oh ok nvm
vagrant jacinth
imo sparkle came in at a time where the meta favoured him
maiden mauve
ig yeah
but he does play a lot of dps so he could be favored in almost any meta
and he’s also played tank at a professional level
feral zodiac
Shouldn't we include hydration up there then
edgy tinsel
and mirror
sullen berry
he's talking about mvp finalists
@vagrant jacinth more like All stars APAC voting, have you seen the results lately?
vagrant jacinth
I haven't, what they looking like?
hot heart
I can guarantee they're in the 90k range
trail moat
^
hot heart
Over 110k for each role in asia
vagrant jacinth
Pog
swift moth
ive been hearing talk of double offtank happening?
am I getting baited?
or is zarya hog viable at owl level
digital cloud
A lot of people seem to like it
Personally, it think rein sit with zen and Ana can wreck most hog comps
Sig*
But you would have to be rather coordinated to avoid a good hog killing supports
Hog meta might develop purely off of hog being easiest
digital cloud
So it seems, but hog is dominating ladder rn, to the point where it might even be plausible that it ends up in OWL
Not sure how though
Double sniper still exists
And Ana and zen as I’ve mentioned
Seems like that would make hog irrelevant
tropic herald
Hog Zarya only dominates NA and EU where ladder is shit
On ladders that have some decent team play like Korea Winston Zarya is preferred it appears
digital cloud
Maybe it is worse than Korea, but it doubt that gms wouldn’t play optimally when possible
earnest leaf
my zarya is ok but my hog is rusty
hot heart
In EU and ME Hog and ball are really good
earnest leaf
and I don't care to contest GM hog players
digital cloud
So, Flameknightt, why is hog still good with Ana and zen existing?
I assume because of Baptiste partly?
edgy tinsel
zarya hog is whats being played in like
earnest leaf
ana is good because way less shields so she can just yeet them where ever she pleases