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[limpid sable]

how did this team just win a tournament lolol

[worn falcon]

POGGERS

[tropic herald]

Shock pasta all over the floor

[true hound]

HEESE META

[clear crane]

LETS GOOOO

[worn falcon]

Heesu meta

[limpid sable]

these players are so bad

[plucky rune]

these facecams lmao

philly's playing their heart out

[quartz cairn]

lmao

[gloomy vector]

now lets hope its not gonna be a reverse sweep

[earnest leaf]

Philly showing up in the game without money on the line tho lmao

[grizzled marlin]

LOL

[true hound]

quick someone post Moths reaction from last years c9

[worn falcon]

Heesu carrying tbh

[grizzled marlin]

THAT CHARLIE NINER

[tropic herald]

This game means literally nothing

[grizzled marlin]

bruh what the fuck are they doing lmao

carpe just dies

[raw ermine]

Ms.Delisi:"Here comes the airplane!"
Super:

[grizzled marlin]

and they still lose

[tropic herald]

But shock losing so bad lol

[grizzled marlin]

lmoa

[true hound]

Carpe did the work on their defense round, now Heesu is putting it in on attack

[grizzled marlin]

carpe dies

[true hound]

it’s pog

[grizzled marlin]

and they still win

[tropic herald]

One of these things is not like the other

[grizzled marlin]

???

[limpid sable]

this game means philly gets 1st seed @tropic herald

[grizzled marlin]

5 ults to 2

bruh

[tulip shore]

Really nice game

[weak bolt]

This wont give Philly #1 seed

Shock have 3 more matches still

[rare magnet]

that was the most winnable lost map

[tropic herald]

@limpid sable seeds mean jack shit when one is 1 and the other is 2

[earnest leaf]

Wait guys it's apart of the script

Shock gets rolled

Then they come back with a vengance and wins the playoffs

THE SCRIPT

[limpid sable]

anyway

[true hound]

NO

[limpid sable]

shock is trash lolol

[grizzled marlin]

i just dont get it

[fierce narwhal]

c9?

[supple prism]

like the old script?

[tropic herald]

@weak bolt Philly should get it Bc seeds are based off WR

[grizzled mango]

Idk if i ever seen a tire get cancelled in pro games

[grizzled marlin]

how do u have 5 ults

[true hound]

Philly tasting #1 for the first time

[grizzled marlin]

and still lose

[outer zenith]

So... Clearly I've arrived at an interesting time.

[earnest leaf]

@true hound Shock always loses a game before they win a big one

[worn falcon]

Crusty: time to turn off the lights

[true hound]

True

[fierce narwhal]

why didnt they touch point

[grizzled marlin]

and lose

[clear crane]

If Philly wins this they shud have the 1 seed

[true hound]

because they’re dumb

[earnest leaf]

They lost vs paris, then came back and won the countdown cup

[clear crane]

they would have 1 less loss

[true hound]

they could have recontested especially with a massive ult advantage

[clear crane]

den Shock

[gloomy vector]

hello? shock? 0-3?
lol a rando youtube comment

[rare magnet]

hype music

[clear crane]

1 and 2 matter since 2nd seed needs to go through Paris to get to Korea

[rare magnet]

that song was lit

[earnest leaf]

So if shock gets 3-0ed, both teams would of 3-0ed eachother lol

[gloomy vector]

INSERT LOSING TEAM HERE] FANS ARE REAL QUIET RIGHT NOW 😂😂😂

also LUL

[earnest leaf]

then shocks one 4-2 win

[grizzled mango]

is there a regional playoff to decide 1st and 2nd seed?

[tropic herald]

Yes

[earnest leaf]

Also shock still most likely gets the #1 NA seed

[grizzled mango]

single elimination?

[earnest leaf]

I think?

Since they have 3 more games after this

[true hound]

playoffs are double elim bracket again I think

[tropic herald]

I don’t remember how regionals work

[weak bolt]

Hot take, but Paris are going to be an easy win for either Shock of Philly anyway

[gloomy vector]

well shock has 3 0ed every NA team

[limpid sable]

how does shock go from winning a tournament to throwing a fight with 5 ults and then not contesting cart lolol

terrible

[balmy wolf]

double elim for both regional and finals

[tropic herald]

@earnest leaf seeds are based off of WR not wins

[grizzled mango]

makes sense that should be fun

[earnest leaf]

@limpid sable they went aggro around corner into an amp field was when they hard threw

[clear crane]

This Shock team would get fucked so hard by Shanghai

[tropic herald]

If Shock lose this they can’t get a better WR than Philly

[earnest leaf]

idk what super was thinking lol

[limpid sable]

super doesnt think

hes trash

[tropic herald]

Shock pushing corner was a hard throw

[true hound]

Super bad

[outer zenith]

Goddamn it, Error. You and your hot takes.

[worn falcon]

Super over Smurf

[weak bolt]

I genuinely think Paris are going to be nowhere in the finals lol

[true hound]

Imagine supers stream chat after this match

monkaS

[earnest leaf]

if they lose they're gonna hard flame him

[limpid sable]

shock turned their brains off at the start of this match

[gloomy vector]

yeah i agree with errrror

[grizzled mango]

we will never see fielder unleashed then feelsbad

[weak bolt]

I'd put my money on Florida over Paris honestly

[grizzled mango]

idk about that

[outer zenith]

@weak bolt No, I agree with your take. It's just that, like I always say, your "hot takes" always come across to me as luke warm because they seem mostly tame and sensible.

[balmy wolf]

too bad philly are only regular season warriors and never win anything important

[limpid sable]

shanghai would 4-0 both these teams in their sleep

[earnest leaf]

lmao

[true hound]

sadge

[grizzled mango]

they dont gotta win though only come 2nd place

they have experience in that

[limpid sable]

shanghai would 4-0 both these teams with geguri in

[true hound]

ay

Geguri is good bruv

[gloomy vector]

even if philly wins this shock have 3 ez matches

[limpid sable]

na is total trash

[balmy wolf]

but yea next year hero pools need to be gone

DS resident sleeper

[true hound]

Carpe and alarm ain’t trash 😤😤

[earnest leaf]

I mean we still don't realy have a good gauge on apac vs na teams

[true hound]

ye

[grizzled mango]

I lowkey think hog ball and ball winston will be meta once playoff comes

[limpid sable]

just look at their level of play lolol

[grizzled mango]

geguri might be played more then

[weak bolt]

Hero pools have made this season more interesting imo

[clear crane]

even if shock win their next 3 matches they cannot have a better W/R den Philly

[balmy wolf]

actually it was oppsite

[limpid sable]

shocks coordination is terrible

[balmy wolf]

every time pools werent in, we got more comps

[weak bolt]

I like the regular matches having some variety, and tourneys being without the hero pools

[true hound]

My guy has a massive hate boner for shock

lmao

[earnest leaf]

yea not a suprise lol

[balmy wolf]

but at least there are no pools in tournaments

love some good dive

[dark hedge]

wait i just tuned in

[true hound]

tbf without pools we wouldn’t see sym bastion tp

[dark hedge]

how is fusion winning

[true hound]

Heese and Carpe

[slow ore]

Fusion 2-0 Shock

[earnest leaf]

people hard shit talk shock but shock has still won 2/3 tourneys this year

[true hound]

And alarm always

[gloomy vector]

its not like fusion is bad

LUL

[slow ore]

Yeah Heesu clutched hard

[dark hedge]

obvi

[true hound]

fusion is good at the game and they’re playing their hearts out

[earnest leaf]

yea fusion is pretty fucking solid too

[dark hedge]

but like wtf is shock doing

[true hound]

yeah that first map was stupid clean

[weak bolt]

Fusion have also been very heavily favoured by having like 13 games early on in season vs the awful NA teams

[tropic herald]

https://twitter.com/hexagrams/status/1294804769421185025?s=21

hexagrams (@hexagrams)

So after speaking to the wonderfully supportive OWL Talent management team, we've decided I'm gonna take tonight off and likely sleep for sixteen hours.

I'll be back next week for the NA games!

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[gloomy vector]

idk tbh

[earnest leaf]

But lets see what the crusty halftime talk can do

[clear crane]

Achillos is in Korea right?

[dark hedge]

are shock running taiyo or smthing

[clear crane]

while Hex is from NA

[gloomy vector]

oh cool for hex

[slow ore]

Shock might be like baiting overconfidence or smth idk to then reverse sweep them

[true hound]

bruh

[dark hedge]

tru

[true hound]

That’s extremely risky

Wtf

[balmy wolf]

the sombra is making the difference

[true hound]

that’s not baiting that’s them being overconfident themselves

[weak bolt]

Achillios is in SK yeah, Wolf is having to come back to US for visa

[worn falcon]

They can put legday

With achillios

[gloomy vector]

what it went to super?

[clear crane]

it shuda been heesu

[gloomy vector]

yeah

[clear crane]

and his double kill on point a

[outer zenith]

Whether Fusion have been favored thanks to wins vs. underwhelming teams or not, they've still proven that when up against the higher level teams in the region, they can still hold their own. Tournament wins or not.

[clear crane]

but gotta put super in there 😄

[earnest leaf]

@slow ore gotta milk screen time

[dark hedge]

we already knew fusion was good

[weak bolt]

Fusion are a good team yeah, but regular season has been pretty nice to them. Until they win something though they'll always be chokers

[balmy wolf]

philly is always considered good, but they fucking drop the ball in big matches

[true hound]

ye

NYXL things

[balmy wolf]

you cant call carpe mvp when he hasnt won shit in OWL

[true hound]

huh

That doesn’t make any sense

[balmy wolf]

he got outclassed or straight up benched in big matches

[true hound]

Jjonak has won only a single stage final

[balmy wolf]

2

[true hound]

oh

[earnest leaf]

Philly hasn't won any though

[weak bolt]

Carpe isn't mvp imo. He has the odd clutch moments but in general has been average this season

[true hound]

Regardless it’s unfair to not consider a player because they haven’t won a title

[outer zenith]

Depends on what your grading scale for MVP is. But that's a whole different topic.

[clear crane]

lol u cant consider mvp based off of titles

thats a team effort

[true hound]

exactly

[grizzled mango]

mvp should be a mix of team performance and individual performance, so I don't think the mvp has to win anything as long as individual performance is that good

[true hound]

And Carpe average this season..?

[gloomy vector]

yeah i dont think xzi/carpe is mvp it might be a apac person but isk

[true hound]

Like hell no lol

[balmy wolf]

yea but philly doesnt fail if carpe isnt in the lineup

[clear crane]

no sports league awards an mvp based off of prior title wins

[outer zenith]

You can consider it off of titles if you want. Or not... MVP doesn't have some standardized grading scale which makes this all silly.

[weak bolt]

I'd say Xzi/ANS have played better than Carpe this season. I'd even say Yaki has been a bigger MVP

[grizzled mango]

not directly but most people consider team performance when considering it

[true hound]

MVP means whoever has the most impact on a team

and for Fusion, its Alarm or Carpe

[gloomy vector]

if yaki gets mvp im ginna cry laugh

gonna

[weak bolt]

yeah, Alarm has been more valuable to Fusion than Carpe I think

[true hound]

Carpe is consistently more clutch than anyone however

[grizzled mango]

I voted alarm so yeah

[golden dagger]

I voted Alarm

[true hound]

i voted fish just cause hes been suffering for 3 years

but my vote would go to alarm

[weak bolt]

Suffering? Carpe was awol for S2

[clear crane]

I voted Carpe and Violet

[gloomy vector]

its doesnt matter if they been suffering prior years its about this year

[true hound]

suffering as in not winning jack shit

ik

[outer zenith]

Carpe had to "suffer" through that S2 meta.

[true hound]

i voted for him cause im being biased 4head

[weak bolt]

Imo Fleta has been one of the best this season. But what goes against him is also how good the rest of SHD have been

[clear crane]

i honestly think they already have the mvp in place lol

[balmy wolf]

i put lip in as MVP

[clear crane]

and they = the casters/analyst/owl teams

[grizzled mango]

fleta is the best player in dragons imo

lip compliments him well though

[true hound]

fleta for mvp and lip for roty would be dope

[weak bolt]

Our votes are irrelevant, they're hidden and only worth 25% of the overall anyway

[grizzled mango]

alarm > lip imo

[balmy wolf]

but i imagine owl will be biased towards NA than apac

[true hound]

ANS def could be ROTY

[clear crane]

alarm is prob roty

alarm crong or hanbin

[grizzled mango]

yeah it doesn't matter but it's fun to discuss it

[weak bolt]

I kind of wish they'd done MVP/ROTY separate for NA/Asia

[gloomy vector]

the only reason i would kinda want a carpe mvp skin is because of cree skin

even though i tank not dps

[grizzled mango]

doing an mvp per region would depreciate its value though

[outer zenith]

Either way, I'd be a LOT more interested in what the actual majority of the MVP voter percentage has to say about their choices. You know... the actual 75% majority.

[clear crane]

Alarm was hyped since S1

and he has delivered

[weak bolt]

Perhaps, but it's hard to compare them when different regions

[true hound]

https://twitter.com/OMyunbong/status/1294794729650036736 myunbong sadge

Myunbong (@OMyunbong)

Ggs @LAGladiators

I'm very sorry to keep showing all OWL viewers a terrible and disgusting game, but I don't know how to win now.

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[grizzled mango]

I always knew he was going to be top flex support but a lot of people didn't rate him as best flex support coming into the league this season even

[gloomy vector]

i want to know who are considered for ROTY already tbh

[clear crane]

get him outta boston

[balmy wolf]

people thought alarm was overhyped coming into the season

[true hound]

hanbin, ANS, shockwave (?), Alarm, cr0ng, are def in contention

[primal minnow]

Myungbong deserves a better team

[balmy wolf]

however no one keeps the hype that long like alarm did

[weak bolt]

Alarm/Lip/ANS must be the top 3 for ROTY. Perhaps Cr0ng/Hanbin on the off chance

[true hound]

if pogwave got nominated id be proud ngl

[gloomy vector]

no way shockwave is ROTY candiate

[grizzled mango]

yeah fusion uni's mediocre performance in contenders korea killed a lot of hype for fusion uni players

[true hound]

@gloomy vector def could

idk

[gloomy vector]

no

[true hound]

i could see it happening

[grizzled mango]

mine is alarm, lip and hanbin

[primal minnow]

Shockwave has been the one good part of the Titans

[true hound]

hes not gonna win over alarm but i wouldnt be surprised if pogwave got a nomination

[gloomy vector]

i just dont see it

[balmy wolf]

so weird to see so many hitscan players who have poor sombras

[outer zenith]

I'd throw Fielder into that pool.

[clear crane]

if its only 10 rookies

[true hound]

ye fielder

200 ping warlord

[grizzled mango]

is shockwave elligible for rookie candidate

[clear crane]

i dont see shockwave there

[balmy wolf]

theres only like 2 actual great sombra players in the league

[true hound]

lip doha danteh

[balmy wolf]

wait 3

[weak bolt]

I guess you have to consider Xzi and Yaki as ROTY potentials too?

[balmy wolf]

ok less than 10 really

[sullen berry]

Eileen 😠

[primal minnow]

LJG

[clear crane]

LJG has to be up there

[grizzled mango]

doha hasn't impressed too much as sombra

[balmy wolf]

LJG is hilarious to watch

[true hound]

tbf Sombra is a team dependent hero

and when u look at fuel

Doha's hacks and value may not always be emphasized

[balmy wolf]

ljg is literally the reddit lucio in owl

[grizzled mango]

not as team dependent in this meta

[true hound]

with Danteh its obvious though considering the dude gets EMP every 2 seconds

and Lip is Lip

[weak bolt]

Lip has been an amazing Sombra this season honestly. His EMP farm is ridiculous

[clear crane]

FDGod also has to be up there

if we are talkingin contention

[balmy wolf]

i think lip is the best sombra stats wise as well

[grizzled mango]

lip is the definition of quantity over quality although his recent emp have been quality as well

the guy builds emp every 1.5 fights

[clear crane]

Monkey Ball???????

[gloomy vector]

unlucky

[balmy wolf]

Lip laps sombras when they mirror consistenly

[true hound]

anubis rat defense

[clear crane]

LOLOL

[true hound]

fury

???

[clear crane]

he got fucked hard

[quartz cairn]

deleted

[outer zenith]

Lip is Lip. But Lip is also playing Sombra, a team dependent hero on, arguably, the best team in the League. I dock points for that. Personally.

[true hound]

sadoplz

[quartz cairn]

alrdy got tire

omg

[sullen berry]

Guangzhou players not considered candidates for role stars, To take Hex’s words from the APAC Stream out context: “Shit” 💩

[weak bolt]

Lips Ashe/Mcree has been pretty good too, he's been consistent all season

[outer zenith]

I won't dispute that.

[true hound]

LMAO CARPE

[clear crane]

WTF CARPE

[sullen berry]

Also Hex: Fleta is meta, he can do ANYTHING

[earnest leaf]

ruh roh shock

heesu has emp soon

[true hound]

that was nasty

[quartz cairn]

tbh i thought ans wouldve went ashe instead of widow

if they ran mercy

[true hound]

no primal..?

[balmy wolf]

Is there a limit on how many players OWL teams can have?

[true hound]

12

[quartz cairn]

2 supports 2 dps

8 tanks

:)

[clear crane]

or be like philly with 6 dps

[true hound]

mcrightclick

yep carpe

[gloomy vector]

i feel like electric cowboy is rare now

[true hound]

sado down and 2 ez picks ez clap

[outer zenith]

Electric Cowboy has always been relatively rare.

[earnest leaf]

why aren't shock running the monkey dva

smurf and choi are both insane at them

[quartz cairn]

thats f a t

wait they didnt take 2nd tick?

[true hound]

god damage boosted ashe is disgusting

[night tusk]

I just came in, Philly popping off? Close match? or just lucky 2-0?

[quartz cairn]

.5 lmao

[harsh hatch]

idk if this is a hot take but i think that sado played horribly during the finals

[limpid sable]

lmaoooo shock getting full held

[true hound]

@night tusk first round was extremely clean from philly (99-0, then 80-99), 2nd map lost because Shock didnt recontest despite being an inch from cart

[night tusk]

@true hound thanks!

[earnest leaf]

Philly might take this 3-0

[true hound]

kings row was very close

[clear crane]

???

[true hound]

oof halted off the high ground

[clear crane]

that nade

fucking alarm

[true hound]

why the dva bomb though

[outer zenith]

MVP CANDIDATE, ***ALARM ***

[night tusk]

what heroes are choi and fury playing? never see them in ranked

[earnest leaf]

alarm getting thicc nades holy

[clear crane]

omg that nade again

omgggg

[true hound]

@night tusk orisa/dva

oops misread it

fury and choi are on dva

[night tusk]

@true hound was actually a joke of dva never getting played in ladder

[true hound]

truelmao

[earnest leaf]

oof

rascal's emp was no bueno

[true hound]

they have to force dva cause zarya aint an option

[outer zenith]

OOF. Violet didn't get Barrier.

[tropic herald]

GGs

GGs

[clear crane]

this is looking like its gg...

[quartz cairn]

no tick

bruh

[night tusk]

love to see sado winston

[true hound]

one more baby

[limpid sable]

what is rascal even doing lmfao

[true hound]

one more

[tropic herald]

Choi needs to eat the anti or the dynamite on the cross

[true hound]

philly has all the ults

[tropic herald]

But he doesn’t

[outer zenith]

It's Shock. When they lose, I'll believe it's actually over.

[true hound]

ur right

[limpid sable]

what a shit bomb LOL

[earnest leaf]

damn philly

[gloomy vector]

Omg

[earnest leaf]

just went fucking alpha

[gloomy vector]

wut

[tropic herald]

GGs

[gloomy vector]

LUL

[outer zenith]

[true hound]

GG

YES

[tropic herald]

Sado best Winston

[true hound]

LETS GO DUDE

[limpid sable]

trash team

[clear crane]

LOLLL

[quartz cairn]

????????????????

[clear crane]

FURY BAITED THEM

[harsh hatch]

YES

[true hound]

LMAOOOOOOO

FURYY

[harsh hatch]

PHILLY

[raw ermine]

WHAT

[night tusk]

gg

[raw ermine]

SFS rekt

[clear crane]

Wow

[outer zenith]

Well, that's that.

[clear crane]

That was indeed a 3-0

[earnest leaf]

That looked like when shock 3-0ed philly

just dominance

[raw ermine]

Holy

[clear crane]

lmfao

[night tusk]

did tyo play?

ta1yo

[tropic herald]

Shock hasn’t been sweeper for a while

[raw ermine]

San francisco got rolled

[tropic herald]

It’s definitely been over a year

[raw ermine]

not since s2 stage 1

[quartz cairn]

that was

a steam

roll

[tropic herald]

I think NY was the last team to sweep them

[quartz cairn]

uprising looking great

-44

[true hound]

fury with the 200 iq

[balmy wolf]

sfs threw the game

[outer zenith]

Just like Philly threw the tournament.

[balmy wolf]

idk why ans played for the entire match

[outer zenith]

[balmy wolf]

where is striker

[cobalt spoke]

ANS, needs to get it together

[sly fog]

That was nuts!!!

[night tusk]

tbh shock is one of the few teams who learn from their mistakes / loss & comes strong back

[cobalt spoke]

He died first every fight, wrap it up ans

[scenic saffron]

that was really fun to watch

[marsh girder]

that was a good match to watch

[limpid sable]

trash team

[tropic herald]

ANS and Rascal looked off

And Choi was not eating nades

[balmy wolf]

i dont think sfs prepared

[limpid sable]

rascal did nothing lmfao

[night tusk]

did tay1o play?

[drowsy acorn]

heesu sombra > rascal sombra

[tropic herald]

Nah

[gloomy vector]

no

[cobalt spoke]

No

[clear crane]

the CPU

was a god

[earnest leaf]

This looks like when shock has a bad read on the meta and lost vs both LA teams

[clear crane]

only ones to pick Fusion lmao

[true hound]

Supers chat today

[balmy wolf]

they kept playing orisa on defense

[night tusk]

why did they sign tay1o ?

[scenic saffron]

genji

[balmy wolf]

smurf didnt go winston?

[true hound]

cause shock isn’t satisfied with 4 stacked dps

[balmy wolf]

who are making these plays?

[true hound]

So they need 5

[cobalt spoke]

It's almost as if the best sombra player on shock is striker? WOW who would have thought the tracer player would be good at sombra?

[tropic herald]

This is really just shock getting rolled by hero pools

And Philly taking good advantage

[outer zenith]

I think.. Shock are absolutely fine and it's well within their power (and in their actual history) to rebound.

[flat brook]

The Shock got rekt by heesu thanks for the runaway team 2nd generation.

[balmy wolf]

its not hero pools, the player is the issue

lol

this was a hero pool thing

[flat brook]

Philadelphia Fusion is fine with this.

[balmy wolf]

they thought ds was the domiant comp

[limpid sable]

lmaoo if shock gets rolled this hard because tracer is banned their dps depth is non existent

[balmy wolf]

dive was gonna be viable even if brig was out

[clear crane]

I dont think Striker Tracer wuda done much here

[night tusk]

https://twitter.com/carpe_ow/status/1294816581894262785

Fusion Carpe (@carpe_ow)

Ez as fuck

Twitter

[clear crane]

Fusion looked hella coordinated

[cobalt spoke]

I'm here

[true hound]

lmaoo

[scenic saffron]

lmao

[clear crane]

LOL

[true hound]

I love Carpe

[balmy wolf]

this isnt the finals so its whatever

[outer zenith]

DAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMN

[sly fog]

Loool carpe

[ancient plinth]

fusion preformed way better

[true hound]

Carpe with the shade

[cobalt spoke]

Shock was cock

[marsh girder]

i wish one of the teams in the last match pulled an atlanta and played bastion

[sly fog]

[outer zenith]

MVP CANDIDATE (& SAVAGE). *** CARPE ***

[clear crane]

i love Carpe so much

[true hound]

Lmao ye

[scenic saffron]

i wish they had given carpe a chance in the cup

[earnest leaf]

every team should be scared of shock now

Because everytime shock loses they come back with a vengance

[true hound]

aren’t they already

[earnest leaf]

It's apart of the script

[gloomy vector]

they did give carpe a chance in the cup

[tropic herald]

Shock lost a game, they won’t drop another for a while

[gloomy vector]

they lost with him

[earnest leaf]

Like cmon guys

[cobalt spoke]

Turns out the only off tank player on shock choi, if choi plays bad what does shock do? They die

[true hound]

They didn’t lose because of Carpe wtf

[gloomy vector]

oh i thought htey did

[scenic saffron]

oh i joined late, thanks for correcting me

[sullen berry]

I saw this coming

[true hound]

There’s no reason to play Carpe in sombra genji meta

[night tusk]

I really wished we could see those players pop off with a real crowd. start of S3 was so fun, still remember Carpe popping off

[marsh girder]

does anyone know who is actually in first right now for mvp

[true hound]

Nope

[gloomy vector]

s1

what

[true hound]

But I’d assume it’s fleta, carpe, and alarm at the top

[earnest leaf]

https://twitter.com/sinatraa/status/1294818023237451777

Jay Won (@sinatraa)

all these philly players goin wild on twitter after the shock w, i'd sit them all down lel

Twitter

[balmy wolf]

when is the grand finals

[clear crane]

LOL

[true hound]

sinatraa lul

[tropic herald]

#esports-discussion message @marsh girder

[marsh girder]

lmao

[tropic herald]

Grand finals is in like October

[limpid sable]

only a dragons player should get mvp

[balmy wolf]

lmfaoooo if sinatraa was still here philly wouldve lost

[true hound]

No what

[balmy wolf]

ironically sin was their best sombra before he left lol

[clear crane]

if only sinatraa was still on the team

😦

[true hound]

There’s literally 0 reason to play Sinatraa for anything other than zarya or doom right

[sly fog]

Sinatraa returns to Shock to beat Philly and reclaim the shock’s honor

[earnest leaf]

https://twitter.com/SFShock/status/1294817176134672384

San Francisco Shock (@SFShock)

We are going to make some revisions and finish this season right.

Congratulations on 1st seed Fusion

Twitter

lmao

[scenic saffron]

sinatraa was nuts

[tropic herald]

What about Architect sombra

[true hound]

there’s 0 reason to play Sinatraa on tracer or any other hero

[marsh girder]

thanks

[tropic herald]

That was pretty good

[true hound]

doom isn’t meta either, he’d be bomb in the monkey zarya dive though

[balmy wolf]

uh ohhhh

[limpid sable]

dragons will sweep both these teams

[tropic herald]

A fellow dragons fan

Poggers

[marsh girder]

wow carpe only 4th

[true hound]

Houston is #1 smh

[cobalt spoke]

When is the next time fusion goes up against shock? It could literally be next year.

[earnest leaf]

inb4 chengdu beats shanghai to go to the finals

[true hound]

True

[tropic herald]

Chengdu lost to Hangzhou

🧐

[balmy wolf]

but yea, im predicting dragons to win the whole thing

no one in apac competes with dragons dive

[tropic herald]

If any team is gonna make a wacky comeback it’s Seoul

[true hound]

Cloudy will come out when the glads are down 2-0, reverse sweep and go to the finals and fight chengdu

[balmy wolf]

you can tell sfs didnt prepare for this match

[earnest leaf]

Who would win

Alpha flank rein cloudy

[tropic herald]

Shock are probably sandbagging lol

[earnest leaf]

or our lord ameng ball

[true hound]

shit

that’s hard

[scenic saffron]

i hope for the 2 orange teams in the finals

[sly fog]

Our lord ameng the ball god

[tropic herald]

Flame what’s your WR against Cloudy?

[balmy wolf]

since playoffs has DS nerf to all hell, dive is most likely the primary comp

[gloomy vector]

im gonna laugh if dragons lose 2 round i know its not gonna happen but still

[cobalt spoke]

super tank failure would win

[clear crane]

we prob will see Shock vs Philly again

[night tusk]

I hope Hunters would be in finals but it's so unlikely

[balmy wolf]

shock gonna rolllll

[marsh girder]

i hope we get another tourney with lots of upsets again

[earnest leaf]

I have never played vs cloudy luckily

[outer zenith]

Hunters vs. Philly in the finals.

[earnest leaf]

His style of rein would stomp me

[outer zenith]

[clear crane]

So winner of the winners bracket and losers bracket will go to korea

[tropic herald]

Cloudy has actually been mia

Where is he

[clear crane]

so shock and philly might very well end up meeting in winners finals

for NA region

[balmy wolf]

i dont think shock and philly will play the grand finals bc its asia vs atlantic region

[tropic herald]

They won’t

[earnest leaf]

cloudy was sick iirc

[tropic herald]

Cloudy has been sick for a while then lol

[earnest leaf]

also oge has a better winston/orisa

and those two tanks have been meta over rein

[tropic herald]

He hasn’t been streaming or on ladder even

Unless he’s got an alt

[cobalt spoke]

We're not doing double elimination for play offs, right??

[true hound]

idk

[clear crane]

we are

[outer zenith]

[clear crane]

for the regional playoffs

[tropic herald]

Double elim is in all of the post season

[clear crane]

not the final 4

[balmy wolf]

sfs wins it all?

[clear crane]

except the winners bracket winners and losers bracket winners wont meet each other

[gloomy vector]

i mean they could its not like its unlikely

[clear crane]

they will just go to korea

[balmy wolf]

final 4 is also double elim

[clear crane]

o really?

[balmy wolf]

yes

[clear crane]

den we might see shock vs shanghai twice

[balmy wolf]

all of the post season matches are double ellim

[gloomy vector]

omg i just saw something funny someone said they lost on purpose so they didnt have to face the dragons first match LUL

[forest raven]

Yo I was out doing stuff

Shock lost?

[gloomy vector]

thats so dumb

yes

[forest raven]

HMMMMMMM

[clear crane]

that doesnt even make any sense

[gloomy vector]

3 -0ed

[clear crane]

lol

[forest raven]

What

Was super on zen

[gloomy vector]

i know thats why i sadi thats so dumb

no super played rein

[forest raven]

Crusty gonna get the whip

[gloomy vector]

yeah theyre goning to boston and titans now LUL

[tropic herald]

https://twitter.com/jgilzy/status/1294810823513329668?s=21

Jon (@JGilzy)

https://t.co/jCeKrs2cS4

Twitter

[clear crane]

yea i wonder wat the hell happened there

[gloomy vector]

wasnt this the hack moment or was that eailer

oh well

[tropic herald]

No it’s just Viol2t on Lucio

[clear crane]

think this is just showing why the hell is violet on lucio lol

[tropic herald]

Last time he was on Lucio was Eichenwalde Attack with a certain Junkrat one trick who will be left unnamed

[balmy wolf]

once again shock gets owned by the hero pool

[tropic herald]

No

[tawdry hamlet]

so does this mean shock are one trick ponies?

or just not prepared

[clear crane]

i dont get how hero pools screwed shock much here lol

[tropic herald]

Dive was a lot better than shock anticipated

[clear crane]

besides Striker on Tracer, if anything

[tropic herald]

Specifically Philly on dive

[balmy wolf]

if u watche apac, dive favors ashe/sombra

of course theirs still DS on certain maps

but dive was the better comp for the majority of the time

[clear crane]

next 2 weeks dont matter meta wise

as the current live patch will be the patch for playoffs anyways

[tropic herald]

The next two weeks mean absolutely nothing

No one gets kicked out of playoffs

[forest raven]

This match did matter tho

[clear crane]

yes this one did

[balmy wolf]

for seeding yea in the regional playoffs

[clear crane]

well the matches still matter for seeding

but meta wise, its gonna shift again once playoffs start

[balmy wolf]

but not in the final 4

shock could still be the number #1 seed in the final 4 for na

if they win the regional playoff

[tropic herald]

Seeding is cool but seeds won’t help being shit at the next meta

[clear crane]

Honestly not too sure what it might be

Prob some sort of dive with sombra and doom

[tropic herald]

Monkey seems very likely

Doom will not be meta

Ever

Hitscans are quite busted rn

[balmy wolf]

widow/ashe with sombra dive

[tropic herald]

Or just Sombra Tracer

Or just Sombra Tracer

[balmy wolf]

double shield is ded coming into the playoffs most likely

[tropic herald]

I don’t think DS is dead

Orisa is though

[clear crane]

well den if thats happening guess Sparkle is gonna be benched haha

[balmy wolf]

and rein gets dismantle by dive

[true hound]

Shock vs defiant tomorrow

[balmy wolf]

so rein/sig is out of the mix

[true hound]

it’s kariv carry time

[tropic herald]

Rein doesn’t get dismantled on all maps

[opaque ginkgo]

What the fck happened to the shock

[clear crane]

aw thought it wuda been titans

wuda said time to set a faster time

[tropic herald]

Rein will be played but Winston more so

[true hound]

I’m hyped only to see what kariv will do

man deserves to be free

[opaque ginkgo]

I'm so confused

[clear crane]

Winston is great

Whose the best non-korean Winston (outside of Guxue)

[sullen berry]

They played viol2t on Lucio, not bad at all

Funnyastro just vibin

[tropic herald]

Uhhhh

[true hound]

Shit

[tropic herald]

I need to think of all the non korean Main tanks

[true hound]

xqc

[clear crane]

im literally thinking of xqc lmao

idk anyone else...

[true hound]

unironically xqc

muma lmao

[clear crane]

o right

[sullen berry]

Fusions

[true hound]

to be honest muma Winston is actually really good, it’s just his rein is

[balmy wolf]

just looked at NA contenders

[true hound]

fusions is pog

[balmy wolf]

salieri is pretty good on winston

[tropic herald]

Elsa Ating Ameng Super GiG Cloudy Muma Numlocked Beast Fusions Shredlock uhhhh

[sullen berry]

Really carrying team this season if we can call it what it is

[true hound]

bart

[sullen berry]

Carrying downwards

[tropic herald]

Who else is a non korean main tank

[outer zenith]

Cloudy.

Benbest.

[true hound]

I mean the only direction Boston can go is down

They’re all good players it just like

[clear crane]

such a rare breed

[tropic herald]

BenBest hmmm

[true hound]

Wtf is happening to em

[tropic herald]

HuK effect

[true hound]

nosmite winston today

[tropic herald]

Boston got the HuK diff

[sullen berry]

Cloudy's a meme, and Benbest too are in EU technically

Go think of the best main tank in China

A M E N G

[tropic herald]

Guxue...

[balmy wolf]

on ball sure

[clear crane]

Guxue takes everything but Ball lol

[true hound]

Ameng ball kicks ass

[sullen berry]

A T I N G

[tropic herald]

Guxue is def the best Chinese main tank

[true hound]

Ating lmao

[tropic herald]

@sullen berry they played Elsa on Winston before ating

[true hound]

if only fissure was still in the league

[outer zenith]

Oh, were you talking about non-Korean Winstons, specifically? I thought you were just asking for Main Tanks.

[clear crane]

at one point

xqc was prob the best non-korean mt lol

[true hound]

his monkey is kinda bomb

[tropic herald]

At one point hhmmmmmm no

[sullen berry]

contenders players that could be added to a scrapped Hunters roster? Silver3 Highbee molanran arr alright

[tropic herald]

When would you consider him the best non korean main tank

[balmy wolf]

he never was

[hot heart]

Shock lost?

This is new

[sullen berry]

Ye

[tropic herald]

He was decent but was he peak main tank

[hot heart]

Not even a close loss

[tropic herald]

Nahhhhh

[balmy wolf]

muma was agrubably the best western MT in 2018

[hot heart]

A 3-0

Jeez

[tropic herald]

Muma was good in 2018

[clear crane]

ah right i forgot muma

nvm

[hot heart]

What happened

[clear crane]

i was thinking early S1

[sullen berry]

@forest raven kinda enjoying the vibe before shock go on a perfect win streak again

[hot heart]

Did philly just boom them?

[forest raven]

lmao

[hot heart]

Or did shock shit the bed

[clear crane]

besides Muma and Fragi and I didnt think highly of Fragi

[tropic herald]

Philly had an agenda and shock looked unprepared

[hot heart]

Which should be highly unlikely shouldn't it

Hm

[sullen berry]

Literally one match in APAC hours

[hot heart]

Shock looking unprepared

[clear crane]

that florida/val match will be the best

[sullen berry]

😔

[tropic herald]

Is it Seoul v London

[balmy wolf]

since 2018 was dive heavy, the best MTs were KR mt

[clear crane]

london gonna roll seoul

[hot heart]

Alright thanks @tropic herald

[balmy wolf]

since they had better winstons

[tropic herald]

Fiveking

[sullen berry]

I didn't happen yesterday, what would have changed since then and now?

[tropic herald]

[sullen berry]

To you just learns how OG spitfire plays

[balmy wolf]

u knows theres actually a player called '1984'

[sullen berry]

While S3 spitfire just trying not to simp

[balmy wolf]

and hes actually cracked af

[tropic herald]

Roshan was the best MT in season one

[balmy wolf]

dayfly was the best support in 2018

[sullen berry]

Taimou was best Main Tank wdym

[clear crane]

is hero pools still in effect next week

or just this

[sullen berry]

He got promoted to their DPS Lineup after playing against gesture

[tropic herald]

Did Dayfly change his name or something

[sullen berry]

Yeah he did

[tropic herald]

Fuck I’m dumb

[clear crane]

Soe too precious

[sullen berry]

But I don't see any records of the name change

Maybe he went full identity shift

[tropic herald]

What did he change name to

I’m actually unable to remember

[balmy wolf]

idk

he just dipped after 2018

[sullen berry]

Oh mb I was thinking of fiveking

[raw ermine]

Dayfly has done nothing after leaving philly

[sullen berry]

https://mobile.twitter.com/dayfly_ow

Dayfly (@dayfly_ow)

오버워치 방송합니다. 트위치 https://www.twitch.tv/dayfly 팔로우 해 주세용

Tweets

52

Followers

4805

Twitter

Lost apex legends child

[tropic herald]

Oh he streamed for a while

Then just lost

[balmy wolf]

yep just straight ghosted

[sullen berry]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=eITwkDm0b00

Related post

[tropic herald]

5king really got a tattoo of Lucio

[sullen berry]

His name is SiO

[balmy wolf]

i wish diya would be playing in dragons rn

dude is actually farming contenders rn

[tropic herald]

Apparently 5 and dance are homograms in achínese

Wow

Thanks autocorrect

[balmy wolf]

'dance king'

[tropic herald]

And guess who the dance king is

[sullen berry]

Not him

[raw ermine]

Shadowburn

[true hound]

^^^^

[balmy wolf]

oh yea

that dance he did is still memed on avasts stream

good stuff

[raw ermine]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wqd5yyty_5Y

found this

4 second clip

LUL

read description

[tropic herald]

Avast stream is the only thing that gets me through some of the really bad games

[next mesa]

WAIT WAIT WAIT

why did fusion just get swept

[balmy wolf]

did any of u guys watch last night apacs games?

[next mesa]

I meant shock

whats going on

[balmy wolf]

hex went bonkers in the stream

well not bonkers

but man he was out of it

[next mesa]

yes everyone knows

[hot heart]

He tweeted about it

[true hound]

ye he was hella sleep deprived

[balmy wolf]

u had to watch it live

[next mesa]

yoyoyo

guys

[true hound]

My guy sleeping for 16 hours now which is pog

[next mesa]

how did the match go

how did shock get swept

[true hound]

Uhh so first map was very clean from philly

[hot heart]

Idk

Watching it rn

First map

[balmy wolf]

2nd map was close, then 3rd was a comp mismatch

[true hound]

2nd map shock failed to recontest and touch point @next mesa

and 3rd was fury 2000 iq

[hot heart]

Sado and fury just booming them

[balmy wolf]

shock never ran dive the whole time when they should've know then dive was still viable

[hot heart]

Also heesu sombra

Is becoming really good

[next mesa]

why was moth on bap and viol2t on lucio on kings row

???????????????????????????

[raw ermine]

yeah it was weird

I think Moth had amp matrix

and they wanted speed boost

so they had to make do without losing ult

[tropic herald]

Viol2t wanted to recontest

[balmy wolf]

oh its ez why moth was on bap

[raw ermine]

and they never quite got around to swapping

[tropic herald]

Then they got ults

[balmy wolf]

they couldnt switch at all

[next mesa]

oh I see

I was like wtf lol

[balmy wolf]

since its kings row and moth didnt die in the recontest

[raw ermine]

something tells me Crusty planned for this situation

[balmy wolf]

so its basically not possible for them to switch without giving up the 2nd point

[dark hedge]

who won?

[raw ermine]

Philly

3-0

somehow

[dark hedge]

damn

[raw ermine]

https://twitter.com/Crimzo/status/1294766371524550659

Crimzo (@Crimzo)

WE BEAT THE 2019 GRAND FINALISTS LETS GOOOOOOOOOO- wait a minute...

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895

Twitter

Wowwww

lmaooooo

https://twitter.com/OMyunbong/status/1294794729650036736

Myunbong (@OMyunbong)

Ggs @LAGladiators

I'm very sorry to keep showing all OWL viewers a terrible and disgusting game, but I don't know how to win now.

Likes

586

Twitter

This is so depressing

[true hound]

screw Boston

[raw ermine]

god dammit huk get good or resign

[next mesa]

get myunbong out of boston ike right now

[dark hedge]

the boston players are all good

i blame it on the coaching

[next mesa]

idk

[dark hedge]

ok let me correct myself

none of the boston players are trash tier

[balmy wolf]

expect fusion

hes still a bottom 5 mt regardless of the situation hes in with boston

all the other players have potential to be decent players in other teams

especially myunbong, who was regarded as of the best flex supports coming into the season

[silk frost]

Vote for myungbong in the fucking all stars

the mans needs a break

[true hound]

eh fusions is fine

Ur gonna look bad as a MT when your team can’t do shit as a whole

[next mesa]

https://twitter.com/carpe_ow/status/1294816581894262785

Fusion Carpe (@carpe_ow)

Ez as fuck

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394

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2215

Twitter

[silk frost]

Myungbong + Fusions on Houston with Diya \

pls

[raw ermine]

nahhh lmaoooo

[true hound]

Sit then with what

His tracer?

https://youtu.be/6Bpgjbq9iJQ

monkaS

[balmy wolf]

he does have a decent sombra from what i could remember

[raw ermine]

"replies with this to every sinatraa tweet:

[balmy wolf]

but his strength more in how he leads than team more than anything

[next mesa]

sbb 1v1 tracer

sbb do be best tracer

ok anyway dragons best team confirmed

[balmy wolf]

probs

[forest raven]

super's streaming

pog

Loser's pov

[tropic herald]

https://twitter.com/viol2t_ow/status/1294840921989636097?s=21

Viol2t (@Viol2t_OW)

Congratulations on winning the regular season and first win to us. That's why you guys never win final match wp

Twitter

[feral zodiac]

Wait glads beat boston?

What universe is this

[upper niche]

So in important updates:
https://twitter.com/hexagrams/status/1294804769421185025

hexagrams (@hexagrams)

So after speaking to the wonderfully supportive OWL Talent management team, we've decided I'm gonna take tonight off and likely sleep for sixteen hours.

I'll be back next week for the NA games!

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2634

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[clever anvil]

hey guys

can anyone explain me how the owl works ?

like i'm not up to date so i just finished to watch the sf shock vs philadelphia fusion

and it's written finals NA day 3

and yesterday a video was released called NA day 1 with mayhem vs titans and gladiators vs fuel

these teams weren't eliminated ?

[tropic herald]

No

[sullen berry]

@upper niche 60 hours hopefully. I bet it's due to some overwork he's taking up with content to record for the grand finals prep

[upper niche]

He was on sleeping tablets.

@clever anvil There's still one more week of the regular season to go. Then they go in to regional play-offs.

Give this a look, see if it makes sense to you. And if it doesn't, don't feel bad. https://overwatchleague.com/en-us/2020-playoffs

[clever anvil]

so during the regular season they just keep playing until there's a winner for each groups and then it's rebooted ?

until the playoffs*

[upper niche]

The regular season will determine a ladder. They then have a set of lower qualifiers to determine the final 8, which become a double-elimination series with another higher-seed-picks format. It's ... as fucked as this. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yFOvldn_IRw

For the third year straight OWL have managed to come up with the most complicated and poorly explained finals format they can possibly hope to achieve.

And while yes, I understand it... trying to explain it to average Joe who doesn't is just ridiciulous.

[clever anvil]

i appreciate that you tried to explain me 🙂

it's fine i'll just keep watching and enjoy i understood a bit, not in depth but it's fine

[upper niche]

Basically, think of it like this: In the first set of 5 matches, the 13th through 6th sees have a set of matches, which will determine seeds 6 through 8. Then you have an upper bracket in which seeds 1-4 choose their opponents for a double elim bracket - which fortunately is then based on a standard format.

Seed 10 gets to pick whether they play seed 12 or 13; 11 players who ever 10 doesn't pick. Then Seed 6 gets to pick between the winner of those two matches; Seed 7 chooses tnext, then seed 8 players whoever 6/7 don't pick. The winner of those 3 matches form the final teams that make the double elims.

So seeds 1-5 don't have to play to qualify. Theeeeeennn we do it all again and seeds 1-4 pick wqho they play out of those remaining 5-8.

[hot heart]

The fact that you have to explain in multiple paragraphs is fucked

[sullen berry]

believe it

it's simply changed over the span of 2 years

but imagine it being any easier to follow

[plush grail]

Lmaoo what

Philly won 3-0???

[silk frost]

wait a minute...
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/704020700574253189/744447205443895366/unknown.png

wait a minute...
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/704020700574253189/744447262922375209/unknown.png

WAIT A MINUTE...
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/704020700574253189/744447165933420554/unknown.png

[plush grail]

damn sado was crazy during sfs vs ph

[earnest leaf]

Sado played super well

Philly altogether popped tf off

Especially heesu and sado

[hot heart]

If philly play like this in playoffs

They could honestly beat a shock that's doing fine too

Maybe wouldn't beat shanghai

But they'd put up a great fight

[forest raven]

Is london just getting goomba stomped again

[grim niche]

hex not casting today

💔

[hot heart]

He needs time to rest

[outer zenith]

[forest raven]

Spitfire 0-9 in like three days

[hot heart]

O

[outer zenith]

Clawed their way to that cap.

[hot heart]

Glister got all three points

The glister deadlift

[outer zenith]

It's okay, Spitfire. You'll always be the season 1 champs...

[coarse cliff]

[edgy tinsel]

saying its the glister deadlift is stupid

the entire team has been good

[median quarry]

I feel so bad for the casters that have to be up this late casting OWL

[forest raven]

Achilios is in Korea

So only Jaws is up at like 2am

[hot heart]

saying its the glister deadlift is stupid
@edgy tinsel yet i did

[edgy tinsel]

that literally doesnt make sense

[fickle flicker]

just got here, how were the first 2 maps?

[edgy tinsel]

close but dynasty won

both

[fickle flicker]

ty

[tawdry hamlet]

lmao spitfire kind of getting shit on

[fickle flicker]

I feel so bad for the casters that have to be up this late casting OWL
@median quarry i mean i get it but it's the same as working a night shift, you just organise your sleep schedule

[tawdry hamlet]

ooh a hog

yay

I have not seen hog in many a day

[fickle flicker]

the stagger omfg

[edgy tinsel]

lmao spitfire kind of getting shit on
@tawdry hamlet but it was close....

[tawdry hamlet]

I mean they got 3-0

[edgy tinsel]

That means nothing

It was still close

[karmic grotto]

Blizzard gives too little money for all the profit they get

[upper niche]

hex not casting today
@grim niche He'll be back next week.

[edgy tinsel]

doubt it

[upper niche]

@karmic grotto The overall prizemoney is a bit of a joke for a professional league

I mean, for the scale they're trying to make OWL out to be

[karmic grotto]

You invest 20 million, but gain (if you're the worst team), 100k

[edgy tinsel]

And if u win

1mil

[karmic grotto]

Operating on pure loses

[upper niche]

1.5m. Of which the players are required to get 50%. And thats broken up between say 7-12 players

[karmic grotto]

Such a joke

[upper niche]

OWL changed the CRB terms after season 1 so that it can't all be promised to different players to take say, 60% of the bonus for that one player

[karmic grotto]

How did they even get the organizations to agree with this ?

[upper niche]

The organisations wanted a bigger slice of the finals payouts.

[karmic grotto]

yeah, just invest a billion in us, you will receive the money back in 20 years or so

[edgy tinsel]

if you win every season

[vagrant jacinth]

The sadness continues

[upper niche]

The travel costs to travel to asia alone are gonna chew up most of the finals bonuses

[vagrant jacinth]

Imma watch my missed na games now, brb

[karmic grotto]

At least they have sponsors and merch sells

[upper niche]

Remember, it's not just players - it's coaches and sougniers.

[karmic grotto]

[upper niche]

technically correct :/

[karmic grotto]

I've read an article where Blizzard basically bets on the OWL when the esports in general will grow