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#esports-discussion
true hound
light plaza
nice lmao i thought it was me
clear crane
can we go back to APEX 😦
weak bolt
They've upgraded a bunch of backend production stuff this week and it's causing them a bunch of issues
light plaza
aha i see
clear crane
ay i see logo
weak bolt
It's why Casters have had to swap in/out. Lots of them haven't been able to get things working
At least I'd rather see it happen now in an irrelevant Boston match, rather than playoffs lol
gloomy vector
such a good match
light plaza
lmao
weak bolt
Imagine if we get back to it, and Boston are 2-0 up at half time
clear crane
o they froze as well?
gloomy vector
so much is happening
light plaza
aaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
weak bolt
I assume they paused at end of first stage
gloomy vector
what he called us nerds no way
raw ermine
I thought Myunbong meant cotton swab?
weak bolt
It does
light plaza
there we go
clear crane
dafuq they reset the countdown
worn falcon
what a bunch of nerds
weak bolt
Wonder if the owl client had issues or if they carried on
gloomy vector
for some reason i saw the 0 3 and thought it was done LUL
twin stag
Uhmm did my team win?
raw ermine
what's your team
sleek tapir
Na production
raw ermine
yeah
twin stag
Glads
clear crane
they got hacked
tawdry hamlet
wait boston is 2-17 lmaoo
tawdry hamlet
I didn't realize gladiators was 8-9 I swear they were way worse
tawdry hamlet
what teams did boston even beat this season like Washington or something lmao
ornate lichen
could be yea
weak bolt
We didn't see this, I assume observers got highlights still
ornate lichen
bosotn won against the gladiators on may 17th
weak bolt
They probably started just taking a bunch of ingame highlights when the stream went off, so they could replay them with OBS after
tawdry hamlet
dude why tf do I not get tokens anymore I got 25 last time and have watched like 5 matches since and have gotten nothing
I want my dumb overpriced skin already 
clear crane
ow doesnt like u 🙂
weak bolt
I've always had problem getting tokens on PC. I just use the app on phone now and it's very reliable
gloomy vector
yeah when i dont want to watch a match i just put it on my phone
tawdry hamlet
I usually have it on my pc just on my other monitor
but I stopped getting tokens from that
flat brook
I can watch that on the pc
weak bolt
I just play it live on phone, with volume off & screen at lowest brightness. Then I just actually watch it on PC. Means I can mute volume on ads or pause when I need
ornate lichen
Wait whats the app?
flat brook
Overwatch league website and overwatch league app.
weak bolt
There is an app specific for OWL
ornate lichen
Oh okay tnx
flat brook
It’s somewhere in store.
What did overwatch league did wrong is freezing the screen for the match between Los Angeles Gladiator and Boston Uprising.
tender pivot
I'm on coffee number 3 but I will be conscious to see shock fusion
flat brook
We want to see shock and fusion battle each other’s.
clear crane
just skip this match
forest raven
Stream broke?
clear crane
and give glads the win
tawdry hamlet
tbh im not really a shock fan, I don't like when a team combines really good players because it makes the league so unbalanced, look at the nba from 2016 to 2018 lmao
forest raven
Other teams need to git gud
gloomy vector
i agree i really dont care about this match
flat brook
I don’t know why New York Excelsior lost to Seoul dynasty today.
gloomy vector
hey 0-1
flat brook
New York Excelsior would go powerful and become powerful.
clear crane
Shock didnt really just grab all the good players
Crusty deserves a lotttttttttttt of credit
ornate lichen
Wait... when i log into the app is everything set to go for me to earn tokens?
gloomy vector
wait who think coaches dont add anything draw
clear crane
Seoul is the team trying to just grab all the good players lol
tawdry hamlet
so how do shock compare to the asian teams, I heard the asian teams are like way better or something
flat brook
Crusty is the big coach.
true hound
we dont know shock stacks up against shanghai
forest raven
We won't know until NA and APAC play each other
true hound
because shanghai bodies everyone in APAC
flat brook
Asian teach and inspired harder and harder.
ornate lichen
Shanghai is really good
clear crane
Shock prob stomps everyone besides Shanghai
forest raven
Shock would body every team in APAC besides shanghai though
gloomy vector
wasnt aero the team USA coach 2019
ornate lichen
Ye
tawdry hamlet
what about charge?
tawdry hamlet
didn't they beat shanghai
gloomy vector
wow kevster
flat brook
I bet Shanghai dragons will beat San Francisco Shock to pieces.
forest raven
Glads is legitimately so much better when goose doesn't have to play brig
flat brook
Or New York Excelsior will beat San Francisco shock to pieces
clear crane
NY got fucked by Seoul today lol
forest raven
NY just got run over by Se 
ul
flat brook
New York Excelsior got destroyed by Seoul dynasty. However, they will learn harder and harder to get back!
gloomy vector
this is a sad match
flat brook
Chengdu did well, but there’s a chance Chengdu won’t go well.
forest raven
its 6am
clear crane
they have the best ball by a mile
gloomy vector
LUL space
clear crane
but cant work in every instance
forest raven
birdring just got done fuckin
tawdry hamlet
oof
gloomy vector
boston should /ff
forest raven
u kids are six stacking
weak bolt
If Chengdu picked up Guxue they could be a legit nasty team
flat brook
Boston is getting rekt today
flat brook
Boston will lose your gladiator the 1st time
clear crane
arguably the best chinese player in the league and hes not on the team
raw ermine
I still would like to say
tawdry hamlet
no way the gladiators choke this
flat brook
Mirror is Vietnam
flat brook
Jinmu and Elsa
clear crane
Team China has been 2nd place 2 years in a row. So sad
gloomy vector
who won 2018?
clear crane
SK
gloomy vector
oh ok
clear crane
SK also threw last year
tawdry hamlet
So many of the nutty players are from sk
tawdry hamlet
so many of the nutty players are asian in general
true hound
ye
u could assemble like 5 OWWC SK rosters and theyd probably all win the whole thing
weak bolt
I think SK kind of stopped caring about WC, where as USA were still totally invested
raw ermine
SK won every year except last
tawdry hamlet
who won last
clear crane
wonder who would even be on team usa this year if there theoretically was one
gloomy vector
USA
weak bolt
Didn't lots of the Korean players last year opt out of WC as they'd already won it 2 or 3x and didn't care?
forest raven
Not super, because he said he wouldn't do it
clear crane
no super sin or corey
tawdry hamlet
I can't name more than like 5 us players in general lmao
gloomy vector
but team US was so stacked last year with corey and sinatraa
clear crane
wud prob be some combo of danteh nero ksf?
actually theres no hitscan there so maybe dalton
raw ermine
Super isn't gonna be in OWWC?
clear crane
he said he doesnt wanna do it anymore
tawdry hamlet
ksf and danteh are good though
raw ermine
Fair enough
weak bolt
Hydration, Space, Danteh, Nero, KSF, Moth, and someone else
raw ermine
Gator then?
tawdry hamlet
I forgot about moth
raw ermine
Not Hydration
tawdry hamlet
oh yeah gator too
raw ermine
he is a temp fix
clear crane
prob Dogman as Flex lol
raw ermine
Dogman has been feeding
clear crane
theres no other us flex supp i can think of...
weak bolt
Just make a meme team from Twitch instead
forest raven
They did that in 2016
clear crane
2016 was all fan vote
median quarry
So is the current patch live in OWL too?
clear crane
no current patch will be for playoffs
gloomy vector
i just realized that rawcus is gone too 4 WC ppl are gone
median quarry
Ah ok
tawdry hamlet
carcar for team usa hehe
weak bolt
Flats, Emongg, Sleepy, Aspen, Khephri, Noobhunter
clear crane
kephri can fuck off lol
raw ermine
lmaoooo
clear crane
fake accusations are the worst
median quarry
Switch khephri for bastionmain and I'm in
clear crane
wat a flux
median quarry
Biiig
clear crane
Halo for main support if no Moth 
tawdry hamlet
this match is boring the shit out of me
weak bolt
It'd be cool to do a region based WC instead. 2 NA teams, 2 EU teams, 2 Asia teams
clear crane
This is sad....
tawdry hamlet
boston pls
clear crane
French would prob dominate the EU team haha
tawdry hamlet
lmao
clear crane
same with KR and Asia. I can see a combo of US and CAD for NA teams
median quarry
So I dont watch OWL that much is the 2-17 next to Boston uprising their W/L ratio?
weak bolt
EU would allow people like Kevster, KSP, FDGod etc
median quarry
Damn
clear crane
about to be 2-18
median quarry
Lmaoo
weak bolt
If history tells us anything, Boston win this in a 3-2 reverse sweep. But I think it's time for Gladiators to finally break the curse
median quarry
Were their 2 wins 3-2 reverse sweeps?
clear crane
their first win
tawdry hamlet
I wonder what agilities will do now with genji nerfs
clear crane
Agilities has a good Doomfist, and a so-so Mei
but I bet zYKK will play the Mei
wat is this spawn camp
😮
tawdry hamlet
bruh
plucky rune
holy shit that boop lmao
tawdry hamlet
Boston please
median quarry
Oooooh
tropic herald
Wow
plucky rune
they're getting spawncamped this ain't good
true hound
huge goose
clear crane
lol back to spawn camp
tawdry hamlet
this is depressing to watch boston get bullied so hard
median quarry
Lmao they got back to spawn
gloomy vector
this is so sad
clear crane
boston needs to drop everyone
gloomy vector
this is truely sad
gloomy vector
this is actually sad
gloomy vector
/ff
true hound
free myunbong
tawdry hamlet
lmao
weak bolt
Boston will just resign the current titans roster next season without shockwave
clear crane
i can totally see that happening
weak bolt
Pay them all minimum salaries and give Mineral a raise
I could then see Titans trying to just buy all of the #1 NA contenders team after that
clear crane
Doge?
gloomy vector
well some of team doge is in OWl already
median quarry
Waiting for one of the commentators to pull out an ice cold refreshing coca cola and pull out the "this video is sponsored by" spiel
tawdry hamlet
teamdoge pog champ
weak bolt
Dunno who'll be top, as probably got a few months before thye need to do it
clear crane
Doge is still not "signed"/sponsored right?
basically all their players are doing this for free
weak bolt
Titans could likely also just throw large money at teams for players I suppose
tropic herald
@clear crane it’s contenders, everyone is doing it for free
clear crane
lol granted, but even less den crappy contenders pay
gloomy vector
super said he retire before he joined titans/boston
weak bolt
Make an UK super team
clear crane
I just wonder wat team Mag will be on next year
median quarry
I like titans because funny gorilla logo
clear crane
I can see Justice being a possibility
median quarry
Yes mayhem very good color
weak bolt
I kinda see Mag going to Mayhem
weak bolt
Depends what current main tanks become free
does OGE want to go full Korean, does NXYL keep Mano etc.
gloomy vector
i mean Houston can use a good main tank
gloomy vector
yeah off tank is more fun
weak bolt
Who'd want to be a MT when you've been in Orisa jail for past year 😄
clear crane
outside of Winston I dont see any of the MTs really fun haha
ur either a meatshield or stuck in orisa jail
gloomy vector
well orisa is not so good rn current patch
weak bolt
Rein is fun in rush metas I think
weak bolt
I'll kinda miss boops like this when halt patch hits OWL
clear crane
i expected Punk to be a selfish prick and flux his way out of that boop lol
gloomy vector
LUL
median quarry
RIP halt 2020
gloomy vector
its not like she is unusable it just takes a little more brain power
weak bolt
Halt is what has made Orisa so powerful in OWL, with the nerfs I don't think we'll see her much at all
clear crane
Orisa is just not a fun hero to play regardless lol
upper niche
Orisa is basically useless on Nepal and Illios now.
median quarry
@weak bolt 3 minutes until your prophecized reverse 3-2 sweep
clear crane
each other main tank has some sort of niche
while orisa is just sit there and spam
and right click sometimes
upper niche
Well, not completely useless... but the chance of finding some out of place is a lot lower now.
weak bolt
If Boston get the 3-2 reverse sweep I'm going to be tilted I didn't put money on it
gloomy vector
well i mean sometimes sigma is just sit there and spam
tropic herald
I think it is fine that Orisa is a niche pick
weak bolt
I'd like to see Orisa get a bit of a rework. Give her an ability to engage Horse mode, where she just gallops at people for some mobility
median quarry
Still cant believe there are people that play COD mobile competitively lol
gloomy vector
like i think orisa and rein are the most boring to play for separate reasons
gloomy vector
like i think rein is ok to watch but boring to play
weak bolt
Rein is fun if you just play the LHCloudy method
median quarry
Flank rein is best rein
gloomy vector
well cloudy plays him wildly
weak bolt
Just hold down mouse1 and W, get a sym/lucio for random flanks
upper niche
Halt didn't necessarily need a nerf, it needed more consistency. It was bloody stupid the way anything moving faster than walk speed would break out of halt. Doomfist flying through the air? Nup, just let him go, immune to halt. Dashing Genji? hah
weak bolt
Halt was more powerful than Grav surge almost, on a low cooldown
gloomy vector
well i mean geni is way lighter than doom tbf
upper niche
Yeah, but it didn't hold players there for seconds. They could freely move again immediately.
median quarry
Yes genji outweighs genji by a ton lmao
gloomy vector
i put genji because he was on the mind
gloomy vector
not really
true hound
in no planet was that ability balanced
upper niche
Sure, but don't strip it of 45% of its range AND leave the same issues in place.
clear crane
we need Hook 1.0 back
true hound
the radius was stupidly large
gloomy vector
well i guess it better than a shield nerf
weak bolt
It was way too powerful at high level because teams would combo with it. Outside of the top 1% of players, it wasn't OP
clear crane
that was not broken
gloomy vector
no the radius wasnt my issue with it
upper niche
Hook 1.0 is basically back with the latest patch
true hound
a shield nerf isn’t targeting the priblem when Orisas and sigmas combined damage mitigation was extremely massive
@weak bolt ye but we balance around the 1%
So we got a nerf
weak bolt
Agreed, thats how it should be
upper niche
They changed something to fix the Ball bugs that appeared in 1.47, and as a result broke Hook again.
true hound
Ye
clear crane
ahh parkour doomfist
gloomy vector
like a cooldown nerf would have been ideal for that not a radius nerf
upper niche
All yesterday I was playing games with hook behaving like we always used to hate - going around walls, through surfaces etc.
clear crane
sweet
gloomy vector
dang mirror
median quarry
Man I love doom in OWL
clear crane
TORB
weak bolt
Hook is fun now, it makes the hog 1 tricks in ranked slightly more tolerable
gloomy vector
yeah i hate doom in comp but love him in OWL
median quarry
Doom is just fun to watch
gloomy vector
i agree
median quarry
Yeah :(
clear crane
o torb worked?
weak bolt
Bob contested point after EMP to save them I think
gloomy vector
yeah torb isnt bad for sombra
median quarry
Torb kinda shits on doom too
true hound
Torb shits on echo genji doom tracer
median quarry
Constant damage on doom and he doesnt really have a good way to take out turret
true hound
It’s a FeelsBadMan
I kinda want torb to be nerfed
like his turret range
but idk
He’s mostly been off meta
gloomy vector
no
median quarry
I think torb is fine
weak bolt
Torb is nice for that niche pick. If you nerf him, make his head hitbox smaller at least
median quarry
Annoying af as a doom player but eh whatever
gloomy vector
i lov e waatching space
median quarry
I just wait till my teammates take the turret out
true hound
I wouldn’t mind if torb got nerfed but I think he’s fine where he is
Off meta but strong pick
gloomy vector
torb nano LUL
vivid bough
Bob, bob is who you nano
weak bolt
Nano anybody who goes to point would be a good start
gloomy vector
i hate this map but this one might be the best 2cp
plucky rune
this hurts to watch
tawdry hamlet
Ooh they buffed hog?
plucky rune
he shoots slower but his gun does more damage
tawdry hamlet
Epic
plucky rune
and they took away his sixth shot
median quarry
More consistent 1 shots on 250hp targets iirc
plucky rune
so he's back to 5
weak bolt
Hog buffs were basically making his hook combo more reliable
plucky rune
he's worse outside of hook
tawdry hamlet
Im going to have a stroke if I don't get any tokens after watching all na matches today
plucky rune
arguably more nerf than buff
median quarry
It seems no matter how much I watch I never get tokens
plucky rune
he's good once every 8 seconds but outside of that he's slower
median quarry
Idrc tho
clear crane
wow
tawdry hamlet
I don't want to spend 5 dollars on one skin 
median quarry
Mirror got the Jsilly skills
tawdry hamlet
So are Boston players just not pro level or do they just not sync well together
Hmm
clear crane
their head coach is a trash can
weak bolt
They have awful coaching
weak bolt
Player wise, they should be able to match up to teams such as Titans, Justice, LAV etc
plucky rune
colourhex is nutty as fuck
clear crane
Halo is prob the worst MS in the league
median quarry
oh how I miss scatter
weak bolt
Carcar or Halo, not sure who I'd take
plucky rune
glads have a top tier tank line though
weak bolt
Could probably make an argument for Kris being not great either
clear crane
and Ojee but hes underage
tawdry hamlet
Lmao carcar is kind of trash
clear crane
o wat!
weak bolt
Boston always just look lost as a team, lacking confidence and decision making
plucky rune
on a different team colourhex would perform
clear crane
Drawable!!!
weak bolt
We're going to a map 6
median quarry
Yo jerry cleaning up
plucky rune
he still performs in the uprising, but he's too good for whatever coach is training them
weak bolt
CHex has moments where he pops off on his good heroes, but he struggles with most of the Meta ones
clear crane
same with Blase
weak bolt
But he's forced to play them as Boston are too cheap to have subs
plucky rune
oge winston good god they're gonna get fucked
oge winston and space dva
oh god oh fuck
tawdry hamlet
Jerry has his moments
weak bolt
One lucky junkrat pick could draw this
clear crane
wow they shuda left space alive
plucky rune
myunbong fuckin clutch with that dva kill holy shit
tawdry hamlet
Damn it
weak bolt
Holy crap that winston burn
clear crane
OH WAT
plucky rune
only reason they got that
tawdry hamlet
I don't want another match of this dogshit series pls
earnest leaf
ohgodohfuck the reverse sweep starts
clear crane
NOOOOOOO
weak bolt
Nano'd winston and he melted instantly
true hound
GLADIAT OMEGALUL RS
plucky rune
gladilultors
tropic herald
I see the reverse sweep
tawdry hamlet
I swear to God if that isn't a fluke im going to kms
plucky rune
zen carry lets go
weak bolt
Gladiators now boomed, this is going to a Map 6 reverse sweep
clear crane
we can technically have a draw on this map as well
weak bolt
This could snowball massively
plucky rune
it already has
gloomy vector
This is so funny they are literally throwing
plucky rune
the cart hasn't stopped moving since first point
gloomy vector
I mean door has to open LUL
obtuse socket
Boston are so good 👍🏿
clear crane
sigh
weak bolt
Technically still winnable
plucky rune
your optimism is admirable
clear crane
so is urs 🙂
obtuse socket
Just hurry up and give us the good game
weak bolt
I have 0 optimism, it's just funny to pretend
obtuse socket
Boston fans are probably overjoyed over this draw
true hound
It’s their only glimmer of hope
plucky rune
oge and space on a dive map
true hound
oof
plucky rune
this wasn't going to end well
true hound
Bring us cloudy
tawdry hamlet
I mean reverse sweep means more watch time and more free tokens
so optimism go off
plucky rune
so does sym have a 100% pick rate on control maps
weak bolt
I'm kind of amazed Boston haven't just pulled out of OWL yet. As an Org they clearly dont give a shit
gloomy vector
I have 0 optimism, it's just funny to pretend
@weak bolt LUL
clear crane
i mean is blizzard gonna give them their 20 mil back?
weak bolt
How many years does that 20mil actually get you?
tawdry hamlet
sleepy monke
clear crane
until another organization decides to buy it from them
plucky rune
boston does it faster lets go
tawdry hamlet
I don't understand how an esports organization can profit
plucky rune
birdring with that shitty emp lmao
tawdry hamlet
it just seems like so many chance things
clear crane
i think apex teams profitted
weak bolt
Merch sales is probably their main income
clear crane
the way blizzard is trying to shoehorn all this
tawdry hamlet
sponsors is my guess
plucky rune
merch sales
clear crane
and also the homestands were supposed to be a draw as well
plucky rune
gotta get that almost default look for pharah
weak bolt
Jerseys are kinda expensive, probably makes decent money
tawdry hamlet
but actual like winnings and shit unless you win the fat like 100k prize pools can barely cover it right?
idk it just seems wild with all the investment
for teams like boston to stay alive
and just bite the losses
weak bolt
They've already given the biggest investment at the buy in
tawdry hamlet
same with usps
weak bolt
Now they're investing fuck all
gloomy vector
LUL
clear crane
GG go next
plucky rune
i spoke too soon
tawdry hamlet
thank god
ornate lichen
Holy sht
tawdry hamlet
that was one of the first times I have watched a match that was just boring as fuck
like actually
ornate lichen
Boston are pathetic
tropic herald
I’m very glad that series was quick
true hound
Free Boston players
weak bolt
I just feel for the Boston players honestly
supple prism
do they even practice?
tawdry hamlet
that was my question, like who tf do they scrim with if at all
plucky rune
free chex
tawdry hamlet
how can they be so bad
weak bolt
They have like 0 subs, awful coaching, and are probably on $50k minimum salaries
tropic herald
Hey guys
tawdry hamlet
hi
tropic herald
Glads finally beat Boston
supple prism
is chex even good?
tropic herald
1-6
obtuse socket
I mean I think they’d rather get 50k and lose than be in contenders
tawdry hamlet
true
ornate lichen
@obtuse socket fax
weak bolt
yeah the money is why they stay
forest raven
50k and free housing
tawdry hamlet
but damn this shit sad to watch
gloomy vector
Big goose actually player of the match
clear crane
and younger ppl come up
supple prism
its basically double
weak bolt
Got to wonder how much it impacts your mental though. Losing every week
supple prism
50k is above the average
clear crane
like LA and NYC
gloomy vector
Its depends 9n the state
forest raven
They get free housing
gloomy vector
On
weak bolt
Got to consider that this is basically their Career though, and you're lucky to get maybe 3+ years of it
forest raven
They don't have to pay rent
plucky rune
so that 50k is basically all disposable income
supple prism
it should be all savings
tawdry hamlet
that is true considering a lot of pros retire at like 20
gloomy vector
Lucky for a 3 year that isn't lucky
tawdry hamlet
the window to make money kind of small
plucky rune
they got carpe in for a 3 year contract at philly iirc
clear crane
Carpe must have a nice deal
tawdry hamlet
ok but is your pfp peter griffin as a geisha or some shit
weak bolt
Being an esports pro doesn't overly set you up for a career long term. Unless you build a persona enough to go into Streaming or Casting/Analyst
plucky rune
custa beat the titans then dipped lmao
clear crane
yea esports pro has a very short life
ornate lichen
Carpe plays with a tpp 3 team
tawdry hamlet
unless you play something like counter strike or wow where the game will live forever
clear crane
and a bunch of players drop out of academics as well to get better
gloomy vector
Still multi year contracts doent really benefit players too much
plucky rune
feel like with better coaching philly could be the top team
tawdry hamlet
or cod where they release game after game
clear crane
mutlti year can be good or bad
weak bolt
Multi year contracts are a win if you don't give a shit about playing. Look at the Fuel players lol
clear crane
if the league shuts down next year
tropic herald
Your goal is to be in a good esport or have a good persona
clear crane
i think the org still has to pay out
tropic herald
So don’t play OW pro
gloomy vector
Ok I guess in that sense its good but overall it isn't good for the players
weak bolt
The more succesful players will be the ones who build up a stream or coaching background while also playing
plucky rune
be a pro starcraft player and move to korea
narrow bloom
Same here
plucky rune
south korea's government is a starcraftocracy
tawdry hamlet
I lowkey want philly to win
gloomy vector
And this isn't a new view many pro also stated this
tawdry hamlet
just be like xqc, and be half pro half streamer and go in the middle
weak bolt
The loser of this match likely ends up vs Shanghai in Grand Finals lol
ornate lichen
I mean best of luck to philly and all, but im all for shock
tawdry hamlet
lmaoo
ornate lichen
They just seem like a better team overall
tawdry hamlet
I see it
clear crane
Loser of this match prob plays Paris
ornate lichen
With huge potenital
clear crane
to make it to Korea
gloomy vector
Well shock gets 3 more ez games after this so 3 free wins
plucky rune
wait not howtobasic the one guy in the filthy frank videos
dark hedge
wait this is the first time glads beat uprising?
clear crane
Imagine if Titans org just let the players stay in korea...
APAC would look a whole lot different right now
weak bolt
yes @dark hedge
dark hedge
how
ornate lichen
If thata true then thats sad
fierce narwhal
yea
ornate lichen
Thats*
fierce narwhal
apple
dark hedge
have they never fought ever in s3
dark hedge
what
clear crane
thats one of bostons 2 wins lol
gloomy vector
Maybe apac might not have changed that drastically
dark hedge
how
weak bolt
It's one of those weird rivalry things that occurs in sports lol
clear crane
Punk came and fucked
tropic herald
Boston was at their best and Glads was at their worst
clear crane
was Kevster's debut game too iirc
forest raven
Punk has since been coached into mediocrity by Mineral
clear crane
and the same day onigod debut loss to titans 3-0
plucky rune
the only rivalry that was worth following was goats shock vs goats titans
weak bolt
I'm not sure how Glads lost to Boston in all of S2, but S1 can believe it as Boston weren't bad
plucky rune
then when goats died titans kind of went to shit
tropic herald
I enjoy watching Battle of Texas Bc it’s a toilet bowl every time
plucky rune
so what are the odds for shock v fusion
gloomy vector
I dont think this will be a 3-1 this is either gonna be a close 3-2 or full out 3 - 0
tropic herald
Fusion can take a map but they won’t win
plucky rune
cannot wait for super on the mercy
clear crane
I can see Philly winning
gloomy vector
No its super zen
plucky rune
super moira
weak bolt
I'm curious what we see, Striker sombra or Rascal Echo perhaps?
clear crane
CHIPSA JUNKRAT
gloomy vector
I wanna see more rascal
plucky rune
nepogtism
plucky rune
as unlikely as it may be im gonna root for the fusion
true hound
bring out the fish
weak bolt
Lets just have ANS/Carpe widow 1v1 for the match
tawdry hamlet
I forgot about ans
clear crane
ahh Moth is back!
gloomy vector
Yeah i love seeing the moth play
plucky rune
can we get chipsa orisa
clear crane
damn Carpe is benched 😦
true hound
wheee is carpe
plucky rune
no carpe
true hound
give me the fish
gloomy vector
Wdym he didn't play every game in the tournament
weak bolt
Probably just going to get Mei/Reaper comps with these rosters lol
true hound
no chipsa doom 😤😤😤
plucky rune
yo lets go
true hound
tbf ivy is 200x more flexible so
plucky rune
big tire lets go
fierce narwhal
so if shock was playing like cree brig then he would be stuck with nothing to play
fierce narwhal
yea
true hound
There’s no reason to put chippers on the bench
weak bolt
Control centre is always such a weird map
true hound
but ivy has all the projectile shit
gloomy vector
Rolled
weak bolt
If Fusion go 2-0 up, do you play Chipsa for the DM
clear crane
damn rolled
fierce narwhal
LOL THAT TIRE
true hound
r omegalul led
clear crane
😮
fierce narwhal
If Fusion go 2-0 up, do you play Chipsa for the DM
@weak bolt what is dm?
true hound
I think he meant bm
clear crane
doom manner
fierce narwhal
what is bm tho
weak bolt
yeah meant BM, but Doom Manner works
gloomy vector
Bad manner
clear crane
wow
fierce narwhal
nvm ill just watch this
weak bolt
This is super weird from SF
clear crane
for this week prob
gloomy vector
You can debate me or whatever but smurf us one of the "weakest" players on the team
weak bolt
Smurf is a great winston/Orisa, but not rein
true hound
God philly looks really clean
fierce narwhal
yea
clear crane
This is good
true hound
that kite right into emp bomb played beautifully
weak bolt
Shock have not looked strong on control at all lately
fierce narwhal
why has philly played 25 matches but some teams have only played 17?
i dont understad
clear crane
they played 21
weak bolt
They have 'bonus' wins from tournament results
fierce narwhal
oh
fierce narwhal
ok
clear crane
while most of the north east was still having matches
clear crane
yup
gloomy vector
Yes
true hound
philly 😩
quartz cairn
i open OWL
clear crane
1 winf or the semi finals. 2 for the runner up. 3 for the winner
gloomy vector
1st is like 3
fierce narwhal
k
earnest leaf
weird that shock isn't mirroring dive
weak bolt
yes, 3 for winning tourney, 2 for runner up, and 1 for semi's
quartz cairn
and immediately see philly 1-0 shock
fierce narwhal
wow 3 is alot
worn falcon
Pogchimp
quartz cairn
what is happening
plucky rune
yo philly was clean
worn falcon
Sado
tropic herald
Philly don’t want to lose #2
weak bolt
Didn't Philly win the control map in the countdown cup too?
plucky rune
hope that the shock are gonna be revved up next game
tropic herald
Reminder: this is Philly’s best map
plucky rune
sub super sub super
tawdry hamlet
fuck web browser all my homies hate web browser
weak bolt
Shock have been weak in control for a while honestly
true hound
as much as I love the fish heesu ivy is fuckin
plucky rune
we need the prepubescent rein player
tropic herald
They throw KotH to pick KR 
plucky rune
super and ans lets go
true hound
Yeaaaaah kings row shock
weak bolt
Anubis/Escort could be crazy good for ANS
true hound
This is gonna be tough
tropic herald
Shock get KR next Pog
true hound
gg
plucky rune
can we get jjonak mvp for the third time
true hound
give kariv mvp smh
clear crane
Super!!!!!!!
plucky rune
carpe v ans widow duel lets go
true hound
people really do be not considering the fish for mvp because he’s benched for one tournament 😤😤😤
alarm is nutty tho and equally as deserving
worn falcon
Heesu with the rat
clear crane
they should announce roty first
worn falcon
👀
gloomy vector
damn
true hound
NASTY
plucky rune
NASTY
true hound
JESUS
earnest leaf
carpe chill
plucky rune
absolutely no mercy
worn falcon
Shieeet
weak bolt
Did Super jump or was he booped by a mine?
plucky rune
best widow on the planet fuck all of you
true hound
How the fuck are shock getting bodied on kings row
weak bolt
Because junkrat
true hound
@plucky rune Saya tho
gloomy vector
well
plucky rune
saya didn't 2v6
true hound
true
plucky rune
carpe and choi earning that mvp lets go
weak bolt
Carpe's flanks aren't going to work vs Shock
limpid sable
shock is trash lolol
gloomy vector
tbf i did say this would be a 3-0
i just didnt think philly was gonna do this to them
true hound
As always, the only person in the killfeed is Carpe
clear crane
Carpe is straight saying enough losses to these bitches
plucky rune
i was hoping for a 5 map series
weak bolt
I wouldn't really judge much from this. It's a pretty weird time for this match. Meta is only like 2 weeks long
limpid sable
how did this team just win a tournament lol
true hound
Carpe is too good
plucky rune
carpe is doing whatever the fuck he wants though this isn't a good look
worn falcon
Alarm breaking his back to keep sado alive
gloomy vector
map 5 is still easily attainable
true hound
With Carpe on the lose?
that’s gonna be hard if Shock doesn’t come up with an answer
Motherfucker is killing everyone
weak bolt
Shock can't really play Striker on his best hero. They can't play Zarya/Winston which they are very good at
gloomy vector
1 tick
weak bolt
Taken them 2 mins for 1 tick
earnest leaf
ah choi being alpha again
weak bolt
0 ults for Philly
true hound
F
gloomy vector
damn
earnest leaf
jeez philly barely got that
earnest leaf
he threw the fight and barely saved it lmao
clear crane
OMG
gloomy vector
that was so close
clear crane
LOL
true hound
HEEESYU
worn falcon
HOLY
rare magnet
wait what happen
worn falcon
Cow
raw ermine
AJJJJJJJJ
true hound
HEESE
weak bolt
and people questioned why Heesu played over Carpe in tourney
true hound
Lul
tropic herald
Why is Viol2t on Lucio
weak bolt
Was probably trying to get back to point a quick
gloomy vector
tbh its weird seeing moth on the bap and violet on the lucio
clear crane
o i just realized super is on orisa
worn falcon
Hope next is ivy/heesu
earnest leaf
I mean moth's bapt is good
frozen perch
so much junkrat today
earnest leaf
idk about viol2t's lucio though
gloomy vector
no i was just saying because moth plays lucio alot
weak bolt
I think they'd swap if they got a chance. But they were trying to get back to point A and haven't died since
true hound
all of Shock is a bit too good at the game
gloomy vector
omg winnable
limpid sable
lolol this team is so bad
clear crane
omg
raw ermine
AGAIN
quartz cairn
poggers
clear crane
clutch again
dreamy cave
bruh they did it again
worn falcon
Clutch again
limpid sable
shock lose this map
worn falcon
Wtf man
gloomy vector
tbf philly is super clutch its just not in the finals
rare magnet
i love to see shock losing
weak bolt
Fusion are clutching this, they could have easily been held twice
gloomy vector
wait that works really
clear crane
Moth and Violet switching roles
gloomy vector
i didnt know that
clear crane
wow emp stops tire???
weak bolt
yeah if its mid cast
limpid sable
lmao shock is terrible
clear crane
OMG
earnest leaf
They didn't touch LMAO
dreamy cave
BIG TUFF
weak bolt
Shock aren't bad, Heesu is just carrying
limpid sable
throw five ults and get nothing
raw ermine
WHAT
quartz cairn
it stops if they dont get into the tire before it goes off
limpid sable
absolutely terrible
true hound
LWTS GO DUDES
quartz cairn
bruh
raw ermine
NAHHH
limpid sable
trash team
quartz cairn
did they
true hound
AAAAA
dreamy cave
LETS FUCKING GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOo
rare magnet
haha
true hound
LETS GOO
weak bolt
Carpe literally did nothing, Heesu carried