to play around widow
#esports-discussion
karmic grotto
silk frost
DOES SHOCKWAVE HAVE 60% ALREADY
karmic grotto
widow OP
silk frost
oh my god he'll have another sights
karmic grotto
chipsa
true hound
Yes
clear crane
i dont think provide shuda been in OWL
but he deserved an answer to compete in T2
im surprised blizzard never replied
clear crane
racist toxic in discord
true hound
That was super scrappy wtf
tropic herald
BQBsBOB
gloomy vector
not bad for titans'
gloomy vector
no
gloomy vector
he just looks great because hes on a bad team
tropic herald
Mayhem are still good I just think Titans off genji makes them a lot better
edgy tinsel
but 3 years ago? @clear crane , like its just cancel culture
tropic herald
Genji is their one fatal flaw
clear crane
which patch is this
tropic herald
Genji nerfs
gloomy vector
the one before the sig nerf
clear crane
orisia nerfs as well?
tropic herald
No
karmic grotto
why exacty does it take 2 weeks to patch pro launcher
tropic herald
There’s no other changes
tropic herald
I think they want to keep competitive integrity but they should still patch bugs
clear crane
I dont think its cancel culture since almost everyone in T2 is speaking up for him. Its Blizzard/OWL image. He doesn't bring any positive money value and hes not someone fans will tune in just to watch for unlike XQC/Dafran/Sinatraa who actually bring in money.
cobalt spoke
who?
edgy tinsel
i mean blizzard cancelling
tropic herald
I find it weird that Yaki only chooses dva
edgy tinsel
Like its been 3 years
clear crane
They brought in money
karmic grotto
lulw
tropic herald
Sinatraa and Dafran and xQc have money
clear crane
thats priority number 1
tropic herald
Damn wtf Shockwave
edgy tinsel
SHOCKWAVE HAHAHA
silk frost
NOOB
dreamy cave
"noob"
silk frost
N O O B
edgy tinsel
NOOB
dreamy cave
blindsided
clear crane
They need to ask each of the players to take a proper pic
wiht their jerseys lol
this photoshop looks so bad
karmic grotto
This sombra widowmaker is a fk odd comp
dreamy cave
i understand why shockwave is playing widow
clear crane
ooooof 99% trans wen dead
true hound
oof
clear crane
and florida still wins the fight
tropic herald
Florida win the map gr
deep wolf
😔
true hound
Pogwave 😩
clear crane
So this patch is strictly genji nerfs
tropic herald
Yes
dreamy cave
idk man. i feel like the dps picks just didnt go well together
clear crane
and then the next patch they will play on is the one with brig nerfs that just went live
tropic herald
Which doesn’t even matter Bc he’s banned
The patch that went live yesterday is live for playoffs
clear crane
hmm i wonder wat the meta wud be for that
tropic herald
Titans had a good comp they just didn’t play right
And Yaki echo was good at pressuring Shockwave
dreamy cave
the dps have little damage output and i did like the fact that they widow ult into sombra ult. its just it took so long to build it up. and shockwave had to basically 1v2. carcar is the only one brawling with the tanks.
karmic grotto
miscomplay
dreamy cave
i know dalton usually plays tracer, genji, macree. but none of those really work in that instance u know. maybe shockwave should have moved over to ash. but he was doing pretty well. so idk.
#blindsided
dreamy cave
he threw his ult away
clear crane
BQB can easily be one of the top candidates for most improved player
but i feel its hard to give it to a DPS when they were stuck in Zarya jail for the majority of last year lol
balmy wolf
Vancouver supports
edgy tinsel
are awful
edgy tinsel
carcar is trash
karmic grotto
DOXXED
raw ermine
uh oh
clear crane
LOLLL
edgy tinsel
LOL
silk frost
OH MY GOD
gloomy vector
nice
clear crane
RIPPPPPPPPPPPPPP
karmic grotto
LOL
gloomy vector
leaked
silk frost
OH HOLY SHIT
inland pawn
karmic grotto
pro overwatch client boys
deep wolf
LUL
tropic herald
ObsBastion
gloomy vector
honestly that one is new for me ive seen players dc but not specs
clear crane
do they hve to restart all of it lmao
karmic grotto
no
gloomy vector
no its just the specs
karmic grotto
dont know
clear crane
but isnt it his server
gloomy vector
oh is it
clear crane
cause the players just stopped as well
karmic grotto
why does dalton look like logix
karmic grotto
huh?
clear crane
i would think they wuda switched to a different spec den. eh who knows
karmic grotto
why do they have nepal
gloomy vector
well they players stoped because of pasue
clear crane
obs ppl have left the game before and it never paused. idk
wud be pretty funny tho if it just all crashed
gloomy vector
this mobile "gameplay" looks like bots playing it
clear crane
but im guessing they have some timestamp they can go back to
gloomy vector
ill be honest if its shock v dragons i dont know who i want to win
karmic grotto
I am rooting for Dragons since I find Void playing better than Choihyobin
gloomy vector
i mean i guess shock for choi and violet
tropic herald
Given where the meta is heading I foresee dragons taking it
silk frost
WHY DOES MUSIC SLAP NOW
gloomy vector
the only reason ive havent watched apac is timing its sad even tho all of the final matches are gonna be in the morning
true hound
nerfs pog
earnest leaf
@raw ermine so long as one doesn't roll the other lol
true hound
watch philly go to the finals and lose again
earnest leaf
because honestly that's a possibility
That one region plays so differently they get rolled or roll the other
silk frost
btw the movement speed from 20-30 doesn't mean meters per second, it's a weird overwatch measurement system
raw ermine
true
gloomy vector
wait so everyone know the finals will be timing for asia region right i found out some people didnt know that
clear crane
makes sense
gloomy vector
so like usa is in the morning
clear crane
time to stay up
tropic herald
It is in Korea
clear crane
or wake up early haha
true hound
ay
balmy wolf
Lets go!
gloomy vector
i thought it was like 8pm in asia
clear crane
prob 9 am
true hound
more kariv plz
silk frost
aimgod is the mention?
tropic herald
Normally the games are like 3pm Korea
true hound
aimgod waskinda poppin tbf
edgy tinsel
Normally the games are like 3pm Korea
@tropic herald the na or apac ones?
true hound
last match they had
clear crane
This is a long tech break
tropic herald
APAC
crude sinew
mvp is the lemon
clear crane
i think the whole server crashed lol
edgy tinsel
5pm is the first apac game in korea
balmy wolf
This is not the prescheduled competitive overwatch I signed up for.
wintry kraken
i guess technical problems ?
wintry kraken
is soe buchering that cooking on purpose ?
clear crane
someone hacked blizzard
true hound
dreamy cave
everyone got struck by lightning simultaneously
gloomy vector
thats a small kitchen
dreamy cave
i want those cookie cutters.
dreamy cave
-prepares the ring-
dreamy cave
is that clay?
vagrant jacinth
soe's a goat
deep wolf
dreamy cave
what, how come hari got roles and i didnt
deep wolf
this showed up for a single frame
inland pawn
you cant even hate with the amount of effort it took to make these
hot heart
OBS mccree
dreamy cave
i wonder how long they had this video prepared for when something like this happends
deep wolf
the server legit crashed
hot heart
what, how come hari got roles and i didnt
@dreamy cave actually unlucky
hot heart
Mmmm monkey
weak bolt
This is so much effort for a cookie I'd eat in like 5s
gloomy vector
yeah but the cutters can be used forever
weak bolt
True
vagrant jacinth
what, how come hari got roles and i didnt
@dreamy cave lmao no idea, i did used to be active here but ages ago. maybe that's why?
dreamy cave
cut her off
next mesa
only mai san
weak bolt
Yeah looks like their whole OWL server died
dreamy cave
@vagrant jacinth ive been here since like late stage 1? or maybe last year stage 1?
vagrant jacinth
huh
true hound
o
weak bolt
Guessing they had to get the teams to bring the game through to the right stage of the map, get the right times, and reset all ults
vagrant jacinth
that's weird
true hound
u can probably ask modmail or something
karmic grotto
@true hound imagine 
true hound
lul
tropic herald
dreamy cave
dalton just wont swap
karmic grotto
neither does shockwave
nova cosmos
didnt reach the end
gloomy vector
i mean hes doing well
karmic grotto
or any of them
deep wolf
wInNaBlE
gloomy vector
or i mean ok
gloomy vector
but i just dont think shockwave is cutting it
nova cosmos
i dont think they will
dreamy cave
COME ON TITANS
gloomy vector
i was wondering how he died there
i cant tell if shockwave is bad or just the other widows in the league just overshadow him
dreamy cave
when shred dives in, carcar has too aslo just to keep him up
fickle flicker
i cant tell if shockwave is bad or just the other widows in the league just overshadow him
@gloomy vector potentially both
dreamy cave
thatll end up being 2 kills, 3 if ksa goes to help
gloomy vector
yeah both makes sense
weak bolt
Wouldn't say he's bad, but he's going to struggle more due to whole team difference
fickle flicker
true
true hound
pogwave?
pogwave is super good imo
man can do work on the widow
if u can do well on a shit team against good ones ur good
dreamy cave
their theam just dosnt have the damage to kill the mayhem
they have too much sustain and block
gg
weak bolt
Playing the lucio/moira just isn't working really
gloomy vector
i dont think dalton is the bad pick here its the shockwave pick or at least thats what i understand'
fickle flicker
that's true, and shockwave isn't getting the picks they need
weak bolt
Seems a very weird comp overall. Bit of dive, bit of rush, and then a widow
true hound
his back broke
nova cosmos
atleast they got a point in
true hound
its only natural to perform less
nova cosmos
i guess
raw ermine
gg
gloomy vector
loud
fickle flicker
none of them did particularly bad, they just got outplayed
weak bolt
Got to face it, it's kind of a Top 8 team vs a contenders team
fickle flicker
sad but true
gloomy vector
i still rather see hero bans than pools
clear crane
the team tat set the fastest loss
gloomy vector
they did
fickle flicker
are their bans this week?
fickle flicker
bans in final? 
weak bolt
No bans in finals
fickle flicker
oh good
weak bolt
But Finals will be on the new patch
clear crane
??
fickle flicker
F
clear crane
no way the week after next is already finals lol
weak bolt
yeah next week is the last week of regular season
fickle flicker
gone so quickly
gloomy vector
see errrrrrrror understands
weak bolt
Playoffs do start on 3rd Sept though, so It is only like 3 weeks away
gloomy vector
0 and 4 LUL
weak bolt
Glad's should in theory be good, OGE on winson, space on Dva. But it's Gladiators, they could get 3-0'd in record time
dreamy cave
nahh,
gloomy vector
yeah maybe i put too much faith in space but i do think they take this
dreamy cave
biggoose will carry
clear crane
o wait soe is back?
gloomy vector
yeah lul shes been backk
gloomy vector
oh ok
weak bolt
I assume she's having to prioritise visa
dreamy cave
something happened to her dad?
vagrant jacinth
yeah, he was in an accident. hospitalised in switzerland iirc
raw ermine
yes
She is having trouble with visas
so it might be difficult for her to do stuff in OWL til the year's end
gloomy vector
oh it was an accident i didnt actually know what happened
dreamy cave
damn. yeah hope everything works out.
dreamy cave
whats the helix yellow thing about?
vagrant jacinth
people with regular role can pick 1 of 3 colours to use
raw ermine
Gullard Purple Helix yellow and Viskhar blue
gloomy vector
who won last years 1v1 all star match
swift moth
me without color because sadge
gloomy vector
the widowmaker 1v1
swift moth
diem
weak bolt
yeha they signed him
Think they used the clause that teams need 7 players able to travel, and because of Lullsish they don't have that. He's only signed till end of season though
weak bolt
He got Fuel'd
gloomy vector
omg this stall
weak bolt
Birdring wtf
raw ermine
They nanoed the mercy
deep wolf
widow op zzz
silk frost
YOOO
gloomy vector
how was that flipped
fickle flicker
weak bolt
Birdring killed 4, and Fuel were meming
true hound
damn
balmy wolf
How???
silk frost
because he is back
gloomy vector
notes nose bothers me for whatever reason
silk frost
...that's mean
weak bolt
At least Fuel are choking early now and not leaving it till final map?
gloomy vector
i mean they still have time for that xD
i dont play phara why is doha punching in the air
is it to keep air time
weak bolt
Animation cancel on reload I think
vagrant jacinth
holy fuck
silk frost
birdring is so GOO-nevermind
vagrant jacinth
deadeye kills
silk frost
birdring is a monster
inland pawn
CLAPPED
vagrant jacinth
birdring jeez
gloomy vector
oh no titans vs boston is next week
vagrant jacinth
that's gonna be...something
vagrant jacinth
who they got?
gloomy vector
yeah thats why i said ok matches
vagrant jacinth
just inject dragons vs shock into my veins
@next mesa we ALL need this
gloomy vector
i mean they both could get knocked out round 2/3
vagrant jacinth
don't do drugs, unless it's shock v dragons
gloomy vector
i forget how the braket works
next mesa
haha
tropic herald
Birdring cracked
next mesa
that's funny @gloomy vector
tropic herald
gloomy vector
i mean it could happen
next mesa
each region right
vagrant jacinth
NASTY
next mesa
2 loser brackets
silk frost
GOOOOOOSE
gloomy vector
yeah i had to look it up xD
weak bolt
I don't even dare predict the playoffs, who knows what the meta will actually be
weak bolt
I'd expect dive, but could see Rush comps being popular again
gloomy vector
yeah i dont wanna predict that but its really is most likely gonna be shock v dragons unless there is an unlikely upset
vagrant jacinth
a repeat of summer showdown ye
weak bolt
and is it Sombra dive, Genji dive, Doomfist (lol)
gloomy vector
lul what is this match\
silk frost
oh my god lol
next mesa
no way it's genji dive
vagrant jacinth
poor gamsu
next mesa
I could see sombra ashe/widow
silk frost
I honestly think double shield lives
next mesa
maybe tracer
how can double shield live
if dive is already being played now
and its going to get a lot weaker
weak bolt
Double shield won't live, but I could see Rush comps being popular on a few maps
silk frost
halt is weaker, but they're the best tanks to just live
next mesa
maybe on that nepal thing
silk frost
which has been a huge factor or months
vagrant jacinth
my money would be on dive yeah
next mesa
grasp nerf
silk frost
I think some hog/cree stuff will come out on top ngl
next mesa
question is
weak bolt
Maps like Kings Row, Hanamura, Volskya I could see quite a few teams trying rush
next mesa
winston zarya or winston dva
gloomy vector
this is why i think they are enjoyable to watch
silk frost
double bubble was a double shield counterpick
it won't take over
either winston d.va or rein hog
or rein sig
weak bolt
I'd imagine winston zarya is more sustainable. You get a win condition in a grav, and I'd say more protection vs a counter dive
gloomy vector
shock like playing weird comps sometimes so i wouldnt expect the "meta comp"
vagrant jacinth
i really don't like this fuel comp
silk frost
not really, since bubble is an 8 second cooldown and lasts 2 seconds, meanwhile DM is much more fluid in usage and she has mobility
and more reliable damage
AND a better ult defensively
vagrant jacinth
lmao did birdring drop a london spray?
silk frost
did he
weak bolt
Probably still has it bound, lots of players have their ex teams sprays
silk frost
defensively
silk frost
did you just ignore the most important word in the sentence?
next mesa
by a long shot
vagrant jacinth
what a lad, always rated him
next mesa
why does it matter that it's better defensively
also it's probably also worse defensively
silk frost
that's what the tank meta has been for like 2 years
defensive play (goats in non-goats mirrors at least)
also D.va has way better peels
next mesa
doesn't change the fact that zarya winston is being ran over dva winston
silk frost
as a double shield counter pick
weak bolt
I'd say any team with a top zarya will likely run it over a dva. Probably only see dva from teams without a great zarya
silk frost
void is ok
next mesa
possibly
vagrant jacinth
void's zarya is pretty damn good
next mesa
we'll see
weak bolt
Zarya enables winston a lot more than Dva currently
Bubble stops stuns etc. DM doesn't
silk frost
like better peels for your main tank and for your backline, you don't have to put NEARLY as many resources into her, and she's a lot faster
weak bolt
If Brig totally drops out of meta, maybe less of an issue
silk frost
she probably will
gloomy vector
ok a weird comp that works is hog winston but it only works because of the buffs
weak bolt
Hog winston will never work in any top level game really
silk frost
idk all the tanks are super bad
gloomy vector
i know i want to see it as a match but it wont
weak bolt
Only way I can see hog playing is if a team goes like super anti-dive. Like Orisa/Hog/Torb/Brig/Mcree or something
sullen berry
Hog is simple, doesn't depend on other tanks
silk frost
here's the thing with that tho
raw ermine
...
gloomy vector
omg
vagrant jacinth
LMAO
gloomy vector
yes
raw ermine
rip
vagrant jacinth
FUEL
silk frost
the meta will either be brawl OR dive
gloomy vector
space play of the game
sullen berry
The Fuel9
vagrant jacinth
silk frost
bunker's probably out
gloomy vector
yeah hes not a main stay
next mesa
what do I know
silk frost
he might just because he plays with hog better, and hog will gigaclap monkey now
vagrant jacinth
yes
silk frost
and with how much anti-dive still exists, you may be able to do it
silk frost
yeah
like a rein/hog/cree/reaper/ana/zen may be meta for being good vs dive AND having incredible DPS
gloomy vector
i dont think cree is the best choice there but idk
weak bolt
Widow would destroy that comp
silk frost
depending on if you can prop up the reaper and zen to beat the snipers
gloomy vector
i hate double dive its so snoozer
silk frost
no brain all aim
sullen berry
sombra widow
Eileen happy 😊
gloomy vector
ive always found double dive boring
silk frost
I think the game is about to get way worse
double shield is evil, but it might've been a necessary evil
there's so much damage and there's nothing to stop it now
weak bolt
I'd like to see Monkey/Zarya/Ashe/Tracer/Zen/Bap style comps honestly. I'd be happy if that general setup was meta
gloomy vector
i just love see those sigma plays so maybe im bias
silk frost
dive zen bap does NOT work, as much as I wish it would
too vulnerable
and with no d.va?
sombra ez clap
weak bolt
What supports do you actually expect people to play in dive then?
silk frost
might have to be lucio zen ngl
gloomy vector
ana is good in dive
silk frost
ana zen or lucio zen
weak bolt
Lucio zen is not enough healing
silk frost
it wasn't in 2017 but it was the top meta comop
gloomy vector
i agree zen lucio is bad healing
weak bolt
Ana Zen would be viable, but it's arguably more vunerable than Bap/Zen
silk frost
bap doesn't long range heal, he only heals in a clump
it can't work
either ana zen or lucio zen
gloomy vector
i guess but it leaves everyone weak in a way
silk frost
you have the ability to take quicker fights than almost any other comp
you could get a ball in there too if you want tbh
lucio zen ball may be good
weak bolt
Lucio zen ball? You a Chengdu coach?
gloomy vector
xD
silk frost
the thing is it's super fast
you can take insanely fast fights and outpace everything
weak bolt
Fast fights don't mean a lot if you just die because you have no healing
gloomy vector
but with ball zen lucio how much peel do you really have
i feel like youll just get bursted
clear crane
who needs peel. just kill them all 
silk frost
lucio is all the peel you'd have
you would go like sombra tracer ball d.va, lucio there just to peel for zen
then everyone else is self sustain
honestly that was the meta for a LONG time, no heal no peel just kill
weak bolt
Perhaps 2 or 3 years ago before damage power creeps
silk frost
that's why the ball would be played, he needs 0 heals
just pop an orb on the d.va and that's all the healing the comp needs
sombra hacks some packs
it's a bit mad sciencey but what reasonably beats that comp now?
gloomy vector
like the burst damage seems way too high for it too work but idk its defiantly runnable
silk frost
Orisa can't pull ball which means it's harder to stun him
Sombra can do a number on it but then that falls into this exact comp
weak bolt
You'd just counter it with Bap/Zen/Ashe. Stuff would be dead before it even got close. Any map with even medium sightlines and it's dead
silk frost
what are the other 3 though?
you need something to stun ball or he's behind you pestering you all he wants
you need something to beat Sombra so she doesn't have free reign
gloomy vector
if you zen orb him hes dead pretty fast
weak bolt
You run a sombra of your own
silk frost
fair
vagrant jacinth
ball comp would wreck imo, but i don't think there's many teams that could run it properly
silk frost
yeah that's the thing I have with it
good ball play is so rare that you never see a proper ball who will play to a level where he won't be melted, but trust me, it's doable
vagrant jacinth
ball/zarya, ball goes in and bubble negates whatever cc he might face
gloomy vector
ball is the only tank i just dont understand how to play at all he is my worst tank
silk frost
and the d.va would be mainly focused on countering hacks, or you go zarya for that yeah
vagrant jacinth
plat chat were talking about it and it makes a lot of sense
gloomy vector
lul
vagrant jacinth
how does one stop ball?
gloomy vector
idk i feel like dps can take care of him with a zen orb good enough
vagrant jacinth
dragons, chengdu and maybe london would look nice on it
weak bolt
Teams would likely adapt to beating a ball comp pretty quick
vagrant jacinth
do you think anyone in na could run a decent ball comp?
silk frost
Think about this: The moment 1 ball counter was locked out, NO ONE could beat chengdu
gloomy vector
i think my favorite tank line up is sig rein or at least for me
silk frost
that does get kinda clapped by the ball comp tbh
vagrant jacinth
a meta favouring chengdu would be hilarious af
weak bolt
Only NA teams I could see running a ball would be Valiant or Houston
silk frost
bro Fuel
vagrant jacinth
like it happened before
vagrant jacinth
but everything else about fuel is big bad
silk frost
Doha plays a mean sombra
vagrant jacinth
that thought didn't even cross my mind until sideshow brought it up
weak bolt
Playoffs also have map picks, you can easily avoid maps Ball can work well
silk frost
Paintbrush could go mercy and Crimzo could go Zen
gloomy vector
remember this is overwatch they could throw random buffs and nerfs to change the meta in a bad way
vagrant jacinth
it would be the most chengdu thing ever
silk frost
what maps do Ball suck on
gloomy vector
is he good on horizon
weak bolt
Kings row, Junkertown
vagrant jacinth
it's fine and well having players to play heroes but they don't look in sync
silk frost
he's pretty nasty on kings actually
vagrant jacinth
yep yep
vagrant jacinth
ooh no i wouldnt say kings row
gloomy vector
yeah hes looking godd rn
vagrant jacinth
lol
gloomy vector
good not god
weak bolt
Wonder if Fuel think Pharah will be good in the playoff meta and trying to practice it a bit
gloomy vector
i said this before and yall laughed at me i do think mirror could have been an mvp candidate if glads were better
where was that bob
raw ermine
LMAOOO
dreamy cave
i just wanna say. every time they dont play mirror on anubis they lose.
vagrant jacinth
he's good but i don't think mvp good
weak bolt
Mirror is ok, but nowhere near mvp level
vagrant jacinth
birdring is nutty
gloomy vector
idk that just my perspective
also the amount of times bob wins fights
he is the real mvp
LUL
karmic grotto
raw ermine
gg
crude sinew
gg
gloomy vector
yeah i said glads took this
but thats not an unexpected pick
but didnt someone say that fuel was gonna 3 0 them or nah
weak bolt
Fuel vs glads is one of those matches where either team could go 3-0
Depending on which chokes harder
gloomy vector
hes always so loud
forest raven
Glads always has the win con of birdring just popping off
vagrant jacinth
birdring popped tf tonight, lucky glads
tropic herald
Birdring can just turn on sometimes and be insane
gloomy vector
yeah they were really aggressive this match
weak bolt
When did they add Super to the MVP list? and why is Muma there LOL
gloomy vector
no that the all star match
forest raven
Imagine being any of the mixed roster western teams and missing out on picking up birdring
cobalt spoke
Dallas is the cock of owl 
tropic herald
@weak bolt earlier today they added a bunch more candidates
cobalt spoke
weak bolt
MVP Main Tank who got benched for a dps player
gloomy vector
yeah its all stars not mvp
cobalt spoke
Super actually saw play for his rein
gloomy vector
pepegas
weak bolt
Yeah sorry all-stars, not mvp
gloomy vector
yeah i dont understand the muma all star pick
forest raven
Is meko in all stars now
weak bolt
He's listed now yeah
weak bolt
Myunbong got added too for supports
vagrant jacinth
oh i'll have to look again
weak bolt
All votes are hidden now too, so no way of knowing whos winning things
gloomy vector
also i saw jerry on there 
vagrant jacinth
i don't think xzi and birdring were on there either?
cobalt spoke
They should add bumper to washington
Washington's biggest problem is main tank anyway
vagrant jacinth
i can't not vote for soon, i love him
weak bolt
I'd expect Washington to make moves in off-season
cobalt spoke
And bumper is main tank
weak bolt
I'd not be surprised if they make a move for someone like OGE
gloomy vector
i really dont know who to pick for dps NA
vagrant jacinth
ans yes
weak bolt
Vote Linkzr for all star, so he can actually play in a widow 1v1 finally
tropic herald
I think I did BQB
balmy wolf
Ans,Shockwave, Decay, and surefour/Logix
gloomy vector
ew shockwave
cobalt spoke
Roar is the worst main tank in the league
He might deserve the title, I heard he doesnt practice outside of scrims
vagrant jacinth
i did ans, birdring, agilities and soon
gloomy vector
actaully throw pick
balmy wolf
?
weak bolt
Roar vs Shredlock vs Muma is interesting for worst main tank
gloomy vector
i dont think hes adveage he just looks better because hes on a bad team
balmy wolf
What
cobalt spoke
Muma isnt that bad
forest raven
Washington should get MAG
vagrant jacinth
no babel for damage 😔
forest raven
And they'll actually be kinda competent
cobalt spoke
Sherlock has some good moments
forest raven
If they keep decay
weak bolt
Muma is ok at winston, everything else is kind of a throw
cobalt spoke
Roar is and actual lvp, least valuable player
tropic herald
Also Beast hasn’t been amazing either
gloomy vector
NA support was the ezest picks ever
weak bolt
MT is also the role you suffer on most if your team is performing badly
gloomy vector
same thing with NA tanks
cobalt spoke
Yea, moth twilight viol2t and 1 more
vagrant jacinth
crongs on the list now pog
gloomy vector
and alarm
weak bolt
I don't think I even did Twilight in my NA supports
rare magnet
sp9rk1e haksal super myonbong etc have been added to all star voting
weak bolt
Think I did Moth, Viol2t, Myunbong & Alarm
gloomy vector
i mean for asia
vagrant jacinth
i voted for players i like mostly
weak bolt
I just wanted to give Myunbong a chance at playing on a decent team for once in 2020
vagrant jacinth
ah
gloomy vector
well and anamo but i dont like him
gloomy vector
oh atually i didnt see idk i know him somewhat
vagrant jacinth
i picked guxue, bernar, fearless and crong
gloomy vector
yeah bernar and guxue was ez pick for me
weak bolt
You left out Ameng? 😮
gloomy vector
ok cyall tomorroe
vagrant jacinth
i was really tempted for the ball potential
apac was harder to pick for
i was gonna drop guxue for ameng
weak bolt
All stars comps are always 1 big meme, so adding in a ball will only make it more fun 😄
vagrant jacinth
i totally should've done ameng lmaoo
weak bolt
I hope they're allowed to ditch 2-2-2 for that game. I'd love to see some Goats vs Ball 4dps style comps again
silk frost
or they bring in the roadhog pigpen change please
edgy tinsel
This makes me feel 🌟 u n c o m f o r t a b l e 🌟
digital cloud
silk frost
I think Guxue is milimeters ahead
hot heart
They're all on the same level
Smurf guxue fearless
On the winston
But
For experience guxue is the best
He's been consulting the best winston in OW forever now
Until ofc smurf and fearless pulled it out
feral zodiac
mano has a solid winston
hot heart
But is it on the level of fearless guxue and smurf?
feral zodiac
not sure, i haven't watched guxue or smurf winston inna while
tulip shore
XQC 
feral zodiac
no lul
tulip shore
Looking forward to seeing a bit of Winston
hot heart
Yeah me too
tulip shore
With any luck they slightly buff orisa later today on
In a way that gives her more of a niche and is interesting
tulip shore
And for now we are Winston
hot heart
Okay
hot heart
Mmm monkey
tulip shore
With Zarya dva
Maybe some Sig
Monkey Ball would be cool too
Honestly if someone played orisa ball
Orisas kind of the off tank there now
Wonder if it still works
agile pewter
who would yall say is the best player in OWL currently
tulip shore
Ameng
cobalt spoke
Choi, Ans, viol2t
agile pewter
ok
cobalt spoke
Best players on the best teams
tulip shore
Ans is best widow
cobalt spoke
And everything else has the best at
ancient lance
hi
true hound
By role hmm
MT idk
OT probably void
DPS is def fleta or Carpe
Support there are a lot
edgy tinsel
omfg
why does everyone overhype carpe
like hes not good when it comes to the BIG matches
he only performs in regular season
fleta striker rascal are the best dps rn
true hound
because Carpe is a god gamer
he deserves all the praise
there are 0 players more clutch than Carpe
earnest leaf
Because he's a good player from s1
who is in the killfeed a lot
So people are like "oh ya he big stronk"
Even though alarm is a bigger carry
balmy wolf
bruh i'd say the best dps rn are dragons with fleta and lip
carpe got outshine in big matches
LIP is a crazy hitscan player who actually has the best sombra in the league rn
fleta still a flex god
tropic herald
Crazy how LIP has gone from some random T3 to a top hitscan in OWL
raw ermine
same for ANS
tropic herald
I thought ANS was already respected?
raw ermine
he was retired
cobalt spoke
Mt is smurf or super tank failure
hot heart
Super as best player in MT pepega clap
For rein
Yeah he is the best no doubt
Smurf is overall the best MT in the league
His winston and orisa are so fucking good
true hound
ye but ANS was still very well known in ladder
not a pro but considered a super good widow in KR
viscid ridge
Is there a lucioball e sport team lol
jagged crater
does anyone remember this interview?
edgy tinsel
ㅠㅠ
worn falcon
ㅠㅠ
tropic herald
Don’t know if you guys noticed but the last pinned link also has all star votes
raw ermine
oh yeah cool
so the top votes are
ANS
Moth
Super
Haksal
Jjonak
Fearless
LMAO
3 sfs
mano was 3rd behing fearless and void
nearly 3 NYXL as well
sullen berry
@tropic herald he website name changed to reflect that
"Live OWL Voting stats"
can you still remove the embed?
tropic herald
It should change
balmy wolf
im suprised xzi is this high
balmy wolf
but then again its fan vote and they dont mean shit
sullen berry
okay I know all stars voting is still small
sullen berry
but the numbers tell me people choose not to vote for a certain role
hot heart
Probably fleta or void
sullen berry
gee, i wonder why the submissions are like this 
Top 2 in both regions:
Damage - ANS/Carpe, Fleta/Haksal
Support - Moth/Viol2t, JJonak/LJG
Tank - Super/Choi, Fearless/Void
and 
sullen berry
21,358 NA Damage
14,487 NA Support
13,385 NA Tanks
11,985 APAC Damage
67,210 APAC Support
65,910 APAC Tanks
they didn't know for what, 2 weeks now?
https://twitter.com/overwatchleague/status/1294345016559640576?s=19
hot heart
Ofc the APAC voting is fucked for all stars
echo quest
Another prodigy gone
hot heart
What happened with him?
sullen berry
not really, it's reassuring to say the least
sullen berry
oh man
hot heart
Twitlonger is banned where im from i think
sullen berry
that's awful boston couldn't pick up good talent and retain them
but he was on the eternal academy team this year anyway
he has dropped out probably with prospects on other fps
echo quest
Gist of it is he doesn’t enjoy OW anymore
hot heart
Hm
echo quest
He going to valorant
hot heart
If he could stomp sp9rk1e
sullen berry
I wasn't going to say it but yeah
hot heart
Man could have been an mvp this year
sullen berry
you can't grind this game if the motivation isn't there
hot heart
True
sullen berry
you can be seagull and take your moment to shine in stage 4 playoffs
but I think he had no interest in the players around him
echo quest
Ye I was watching his streams he could tell he didn’t like playing OW anymore
sullen berry
and the streaming business is still fertile
echo quest
Like Sinatraa’s streams before he left
sullen berry
he's only succeeded with the freedom of not being chained to one game and making APEX content on YT
He would still be considered a positive member of the OW community despite the damage he's done
echo quest
Seagull