muma winston is actually pog
#esports-discussion
hot heart
The man shouldn't play anything else
feral zodiac
exactky
true hound
when houston had hackfist + winston dva
they fucked
too bad thtas never gonna happen
feral zodiac
when ur flex dps outperforms you on mt
true hound
omegalul
actually to be fair
houston is 3-7 with muma
3-8 with hydration
hydration feeds less but the pieces in houston just dont fit
feral zodiac
if we go off of tjat
silk frost
Houston has had 1 good support playee
true hound
huh
silk frost
It's jecse
silk frost
I think Rapel has been underwhelming
true hound
better for the team than Muma will be
feral zodiac
Houston have been underwhelming
silk frost
Yeah but compared to my expectations, houston are better and Rapel is worse
true hound
i wouldnt even change anything besides getting a damn MT
feral zodiac
at least boston doesn't send themselves broke getting players
true hound
Danteh is consistently nutty
true hound
Linkzr is interesting but he'll do cause when he pops hes the best
and Blase will work well as their doom genji specialist
feral zodiac
linkzr is very inconsistent
silk frost
Houston could drop everyone but Meko, Danteh, and Jecse and pick up Fusions and Myungbong from Boston
feral zodiac
he is either a top 5 hitscan or a bottom 5 hitscan
true hound
lmao
feral zodiac
no inbetween
silk frost
Top 8
true hound
bruh
feral zodiac
best of houston and uprising would actually be a solid team
true hound
uprising honestlyisnt that bad player-wise
theyre just a)mad boomed b) idk wtf coaches r doing
silk frost
Fusions, Meko, Danteh, Hydration, Diya (on the fence with that), Jecse, Myungbong
feral zodiac
also i fully believe that next year chengdu will go unbeaten for 40 games
true hound
yes
feral zodiac
just watch
true hound
ameng ball
hot heart
Ameng will just become a head coach
silk frost
Will it be because they grabbed Diya?
feral zodiac
fusions deserves a far better team
hot heart
And make them better
feral zodiac
actually most of boston does
silk frost
I'm tellin ya dude Houston with Fusions would slap
feral zodiac
except maybe halo and hex
true hound
no Halo is good
silk frost
And maybe Mikeyy but his sample size is tiny
feral zodiac
trying to make hex learn a hero is a guaranteed loss
true hound
Chex just gets uh forced onto DPS heroes he cant play
silk frost
Halo has been mediocre at best and depressing at worst
feral zodiac
remember when a hex torb hammer put boston out of the summer showdown
silk frost
Lol
karmic grotto
I guess it's time for me to join Boston
hot heart
Tbh
karmic grotto
Can't be worse off tank than
feral zodiac
but no hex gotta whip out the hammer
hot heart
Punk Jerry and myungbong
silk frost
Also sorry Zalty I didn't mean lol at what you said, I meant the hammer thing
hot heart
Could all do decently on mid table teams
true hound
punk is dope af
hot heart
Other than them
true hound
@silk frost nah ik dw
hot heart
They mostly suck ass
karmic grotto
:) yo, if hex and Co can stay, I'll become like ChipSa
hot heart
Ngl
silk frost
Myungbong could start on Shock bruh
karmic grotto
true hound
chippers
hot heart
Chex could be a sub
karmic grotto
Boston gotta pump up money
silk frost
The best of houston + the best of Boston = a top 10 team
feral zodiac
across all regions?
karmic grotto
If they just sign "streamers"
feral zodiac
maybe
hot heart
Fusions too
feral zodiac
depends how the glue together
silk frost
Imagine Danteh playing with Fusions and Myungbong, and then Jerry with Meko
feral zodiac
they*
silk frost
It's almost a perfect blend of newer and older talent
karmic grotto
..
earnest leaf
jerry is a pretty avg hitscan tho
feral zodiac
who is houstons other dps?
earnest leaf
I'd probably rather have linkzr over jerry
feral zodiac
ah
hot heart
Linkzr
feral zodiac
idk jerry seems more consistent than linkzr
feral zodiac
but when linkzr is good he's a machine
feral zodiac
widow specialist?
hot heart
Yeah
feral zodiac
idk what jerry's widow/ashe is like
karmic grotto
These players are fine for not reading reddit or comments
feral zodiac
true
feral zodiac
they've done pretty well
true hound
yh but tbf everyone feels bad for them
hot heart
You'll be boomed
true hound
boston is a different story
true hound
Titans were whipped together halfway through the season and forced to play in the big leagues against teams which have been scrimming and gelling together
hot heart
Boston is just disliked tbh
feral zodiac
i hold out hope that this time next year titans will be mid tier
karmic grotto
God tier
hot heart
Sometimes hated
true hound
Boston org is disliked probs
not the players
Fusions is a fuckin champ
3 seasons of boston
karmic grotto
2?
hot heart
Fusions is absolutely boomed at times though
feral zodiac
titans story is literally the fall of the titan 
hot heart
Its sad to see
feral zodiac
so is all of boston
hot heart
Like
karmic grotto
I don't know how the players must feel
hot heart
Houston could pick him up
feral zodiac
they've gotta put up with constant defeat
hot heart
And worst case scenario
true hound
theyll probably release Muma Boink and Hydration mayb
and pick up an actual MT
for some reason boink still exists
karmic grotto
true hound
idk what niche Hydration would fill if hes not gonna be tanking
hot heart
They do better than with hydration
karmic grotto
If Boston pulls a ChipSa and signs Flats /s
true hound
ngl
sour magnet
Houston needs an overall
true hound
Flats would be dope
sour magnet
Over haul *
true hound
now Houston sign kabaji
true hound
Doesn’t want to tho
digital cloud
houston with kaiser
true hound
Unranked
sour magnet
I wish dafran stayed in Atlanta to play this meta
karmic grotto
No no
true hound
Necros did bronze
hot heart
Id like to see what ml7 would do in OWL
sour magnet
It would of been so fun
karmic grotto
He was in low rank
digital cloud
ml7 trash
karmic grotto
I remember me saying something about it
true hound
tf
hot heart
ml7 trash
@digital cloud weirdchamp
karmic grotto
On general discussion
digital cloud
just like chipsa, ml7 would be destroyed in OWL
true hound
if he can fit and work with a team
Ez clap
Eh
ml7 is nutty, with enough coaching he’d be good
karmic grotto
@digital cloud don't think so. ML7 would have more playtime than ChipSa
true hound
You’d be saying the same about ANS
ANS was taken straight from ladder
And guess how he turned out
digital cloud
ANS was taken from ladder because he could cut it
karmic grotto
Well not quite
digital cloud
so was jjonak
karmic grotto
Ans played pro
true hound
ANS was one of the best widows in ladder, Ml7 is one of the best anas on ladder
Barely @karmic grotto
karmic grotto
EU ladder
true hound
It was a short stint
feral zodiac
ans was very well known on the korean ladder
true hound
u can’t really the say the streamer will be bad until they actually play in OWL
obv they’ve never played pro
But if they’re coachable, they’ll get it
hot heart
See
karmic grotto
Some pro player said something about it
true hound
it’s not just they are streamer not in OWL so they must be bad
feral zodiac
usually the people they scout will play in a few scrims prior to being signed
true hound
wot
karmic grotto
Uhm
true hound
Y would he be inconsistent
hot heart
And just be flashy as hell
true hound
idk
karmic grotto
We don't know
hot heart
But not as consistent as other top Ana's
feral zodiac
that depends
hot heart
Obv that's speculation
hot heart
Yeah
karmic grotto
Not your average ranked shit show
feral zodiac
we're not sure how he performs in a serious team environment
feral zodiac
harbleu tried out t2
true hound
harb has a fatal weakness
feral zodiac
he performed very inconsistently
true hound
Not being able to play dva
digital cloud
harb couldn't cut it, he isn't a team player
true hound
and dva has been meta for an extremely long time
sour magnet
You could definetly still make a good team out of steamers
Streamers*
Just streaming is way more money
karmic grotto
@feral zodiac makes no sense what you say
feral zodiac
and from what i've been told harb doesn't work well with teams
true hound
ye you’d just have to coach them right
earnest leaf
harb would get omega clapped in owl
umbral iron
tbf the life of a tank is getting clapped until you have ult
feral zodiac
?
umbral iron
chicken contendies
karmic grotto
Clapped when you don't scrim, yes
feral zodiac
people that scrim can still get clapped
digital cloud
THEY PLAYED IN CONTENDERS
sour magnet
Streaming makes too much money that’s why he sticks to streaming
karmic grotto
Pepega team
feral zodiac
that doesn't mean scrimming isn't an advantage
sour magnet
No shit
karmic grotto
Streaming > scrimming
karmic grotto
sour magnet
Generally more fun
feral zodiac
better working enivornment
sour magnet
Since I’m guessing the Boston roster isn’t having a lot of fun currently
feral zodiac
not at all
karmic grotto
I bet, if the salaries were in the million, you would see more players training hard
sour magnet
And you don’t guarantee your on a team like the shock or dragons
feral zodiac
ik fusions hates it
sour magnet
And even then, Shock and Dragons probably have a shit ton of work
digital cloud
you would see more, but then better people would get the job
feral zodiac
fuck yeah they do
sour magnet
Between scrims vod reviews etc
karmic grotto
If owl players could make 2 millions a year, oh man 
digital cloud
all we need to do is get more viewers
true hound
Boston probs pays low
digital cloud
shouldn't be too hard
feral zodiac
and we know the highest earners
true hound
Teams like Dallas pay bank
sour magnet
Players like Carpe, Jjonak could be getting so much
true hound
Don’t we only know Sinatraa
sour magnet
And Decay before he left
true hound
150k
feral zodiac
minimum salary is $50,000 a year per player
digital cloud
only need the whole population of China viewing
sour magnet
We only knew Season 1 Sinatraa
feral zodiac
they released a list of the 20 highest earners a year ago
sour magnet
After getting MVP for OWWC And OWL it would of went up so high
feral zodiac
pretty much all koreans
feral zodiac
nice dream
karmic grotto
I am not sure about the vision of Activision Blizzard, but when money speaks, this vision is a short term thing to get money
Overwatch stays strong as long as Jeffrey Kaplan is the director
I would even say that if they decided to cut Overwatch, that it wouldn't even hurt them
That's how low the impact is
2016? Game has evolved, but at what cost?
All those big streamers leaving Overwatch because it's not fun for them anymore. It could have had 100k thousands viewers each day realistically
But too slow
Bad decisions in between
And when the trouble is finances? They have to create OW 2 to make more money
But at what cost?
karmic grotto
Outside China
sour magnet
Blizzard has never favoured a Western Audience
karmic grotto
Sometimes
sour magnet
Games like Starcraft etc
feral zodiac
only game that really favours a western audience is WoW
idk what that's like in asia though
but yeah starcraft, hots, overwatch all make their money in the east
karmic grotto
If they didn't kill pro pugs, didn't kill the sponsors teams can have, didn't kill the ability to work together with faceit to create a stable and health semi pro ranked games for competitive matches without bullshit of throwers, leavers, win traders...
feral zodiac
hearthstone as well
digital cloud
and if they actually made the changes they say they are going to quicker
karmic grotto
Create games for short term profit
feral zodiac
they have lol
sour magnet
In the end Blizzard is a for profit company
karmic grotto
That's their style
digital cloud
and didn't walk back buffs almost immediately
feral zodiac
???
digital cloud
playable? yes. but god is comp cancerous sometimes
karmic grotto
It is short term
sour magnet
Sometimes
karmic grotto
Kinda
sour magnet
Go play csgo and it’s way worse
feral zodiac
that's thanks to faceit
sour magnet
I’ve started to play Valorant and what I’ve found is Overwatch is way more fun to win, but valorant is more fun to lose than to lose in Overwatch
karmic grotto
is it even worth it to even buy the game that has no stable competitive environment as advertised?
feral zodiac
csgo?
karmic grotto
Imagine you hearing that owl teams have academy teams, and then hearing about them not being in contenders
What does that say?
feral zodiac
uh
sour magnet
The teams shit
feral zodiac
idk, what does it say
karmic grotto
Most of owl had Academy teams, but right now they're non existent
How will players see the pro side of Overwatch, as a real pro thing like LoL if they don't even see T2 academy teams playing?
And then start to gather information
And read that T2 system is actually trash
We, the players know what we want to see on the pro scene, but the heads don't...
They rather see money
feral zodiac
i don't get it
karmic grotto
That's what she said
true hound
what
karmic grotto
🥁
digital cloud
I think that is what he is saying?
edgy tinsel
Hes saying
Taiyo was never chosen to be a genji specialist
If he was basing off just genji, he wouldn't have went for taiyo
balmy wolf
crusty values roster depth a lot
same reason why he got twilight
by virtue of having more players, you more options on how you want to shuffle the roster
hidden vault
But players wouldn't want to be benched
So they might ask for transfer
Like architect
tropic herald
I’m pretty sure they got Twilight Bc he’s a monster on Ana in the same way Viol2t is a monster on Zen
next mesa
Im pretty sure they got twilight just so the other teams cant get twilight
next mesa
isnt it funny that seoul and london are probably like worst apac team but if it was in na they are probably at least atlanta tier
tropic herald
Twilight was playing Ana like ranked against philly in the finals
next mesa
lol
tropic herald
Go watch Oasis it was the funniest thing
tropic herald
Rascal didn’t even have scrim time on genji
forest raven
That's how scary shock is
They literally started running genji dive with rascal in that match and it outclassed Fusion
next mesa
fusion looked mentally boomed
balmy wolf
in avasts stream mcgravy alluded to how rascal wasnt playing in scrims at all
it was super on genji in scrims
forest raven
Yeah
balmy wolf
then they pulled out rascal genjis in playoffs and what do you know they pound on it
forest raven
Super said something along the lines that Rascal's tweet was 'basically true'
vagrant jacinth
Shock are just so scarily good
next mesa
carpe 
balmy wolf
player wise philly had the better sombra and zarya, but the team play overall favor shock
balmy wolf
cold
forest raven
Or maybe Shock just adapted to his genji
balmy wolf
hes neutral was fine, but his blades got no value
vagrant jacinth
Yeah, shame they look so good but nothing to show for it
balmy wolf
rascal had the game saving ults
tropic herald
Ivy genji is very good
forest raven
Shock won Anubis only because Rascal made a play
balmy wolf
paris couldn't mirror the dive and they couldn't force philly off it so they lost
tropic herald
You could tell Rascal was watching Paris v Philly
Rascal never dived Alarm in blade
Never first at least
balmy wolf
You think paris could've beat shock if they were in the same bracket instead of philly?
forest raven
As soon as Shock figure out Rascal dive is the play, no team in NA would have beat them
vagrant jacinth
I don't think Paris would. They didn't look as good as they have in the past weeks
balmy wolf
mayhem almost took shock to map 5, but shock clutch up on eich
and the momentum shifted towards shock
tropic herald
As much as Alarm dicked on sparkle I fear Teilight would’ve done it more
forest raven
Shock has a bad time on Busan
tropic herald
Shock throw control to play KR
forest raven
But koth means nothing
balmy wolf
busan is the weirdest control map
balmy wolf
each stage favors a different comp
next mesa
dont be a bitch
forest raven
Every team that won the first control map lost the series
next mesa
make dragons play on 200 ping
forest raven
tropic herald
Busan kinda sucks
next mesa
tropic herald
One KoTH is super easy to snowball on
balmy wolf
but yea busan does suck pretty hard honestly
tropic herald
And two busan is the easiest one to do this one
tropic herald
Yes
balmy wolf
its more than 50% on average
tropic herald
If you win the first fight you will win the round unless you beef
balmy wolf
u have a decent chance to get it last fight territory pretty easily
if u get it 1st
then u bank ults and flip it again to win
forest raven
Ye
tropic herald
And Busan has really good chokes for defense on two of the points
balmy wolf
but yea poor paris
next mesa
its like 60%
balmy wolf
they actually got 2nd seed because they dropped a map to justice
tropic herald
Wait
vagrant jacinth
just give me shock vs dragons
@next mesa yes pls, I need to see this SO much
tropic herald
Paris would’ve been able to make finals and they not beefed
Actually
Florida could’ve beaten them tbh
forest raven
Yeah
balmy wolf
but considering paris couldnt do dive ig it didnt matter
hidden vault
beef meaning?
forest raven
If they didn't drop a map to Justice they would have had a better record than shock
By one map
tropic herald
When you beef you fuck up
tropic herald
Paris dropped a map to justice
balmy wolf
^
tropic herald
They lost #1
tropic herald
They had to face Philly instead of Florida
balmy wolf
because paris and shock had the same map record
tropic herald
They weren’t gonna beat Philly but Florida is a mayb
balmy wolf
paris lost a map and shock swept so shock was #1 seed
forest raven
Shock also lost a map
Anubis to Mayhem
Shock won the head to head because they 3-0'd Paris earlier in the year
tropic herald
Mayhem winning Anubis to shock of all teams was a statement
balmy wolf
before the showdown they had the same map record for the qualifer
tropic herald
They could’ve flipped the momentum
forest raven
Beating shock on 2cp
balmy wolf
alright i just checked
paris and shock had the same MD
but paris lost a map on the last qualifier day when shock swept
so shock went up
balmy wolf
?
forest raven
Head to head
balmy wolf
tropic herald
Not a regular rip
next mesa
LLLLLLLLLL
idle gorge
Thx for banning the two heroes which made the game interesting to watch
plush grail
I really don't understand owl
They nerf or buff characters
But then instantly ban them
karmic grotto
Hero pools?
plush grail
yeah
karmic grotto
Void has very shaky hands. How much does this player play?
hot heart
Wdym
sullen berry
We've got the FCSM supporting Cr0ng and Eileen
At this point I'm waiting for their basketball team GZ Long Lions 🏀 to come out with their support
primal minnow
Fleta is 7k away from taking back 1st in votes. Dang
sullen berry
Yeah it'll continue to fluctuate like that
edgy tinsel
Yoooo special gang
hot heart
We do be colourful doe
feral zodiac
hold up is xzi still in the lead
karmic grotto
owl players have such different positioning
vagrant jacinth
Wow, carpe dropped down to 4th
hot heart
Bruh
vagrant jacinth
Good to see alarm climbing though
feral zodiac
he dropped because he didn't play
hot heart
At least alarm is getting up there
feral zodiac
suprised but also not suprised at the shock players positions
balmy wolf
People’s vote counts only for 25%? Honestly I don’t think any of the current top3 will be MVP after pro’s votes.
balmy wolf
Maybe alarm. But there will be a surprise.
I love Paris but Xzi would be an hold-up. He isn’t as good as before his injury.
tropic herald
power rankings
true hound
wtf Houston should be #1
tropic herald
tropic herald
I know someone is gonna ask why Justice is above Fuel
Well@you see
That group of 5 could go anyway
But I still think Justice wins most of the matchups in that 5
vagrant jacinth
You think so?
tropic herald
Yea
vagrant jacinth
I could see outluls doing it tbf
sullen berry
3 hours, right?
live on twitch only
sweet
I can run this in the background while I'm up all day
working from home difference
sullen berry
having to set up last minute is kinda ass - my internet can only upload/download from home
as all those watch parties have taught me
sullen berry
just higher bitrate voice, alongside the usual perms with regular role
vagrant jacinth
Ah, cool
edgy tinsel
i forgot how anticlimatic goats was
i just watch a fight:
4 gravs
2 bombs
3 shatters
1 beat
2 rallies
4 transcendence
1 kill
vagrant jacinth
Lol yeah
Fights would go on forever
Was cool imo, went on for too long
What are teams gonna run now with the current bans?
edgy tinsel
double shield
bap zen
then id presume
ashe/widow , mei/echo
which means
LONDONNNN THRIVEEEEEE
and seoul will be poo
SOOOO
EZZZZZ
Profit will be on mei / echo
sullen berry
but the quiffs that came with goats from the casters would be awesome, if you look for them
sullen berry
summer games in the overwatch league countdown cup
https://clips.twitch.tv/BitterCooperativeStarBCWarrior
balmy wolf
Umm excuse me where the hell do the 100k votes on alarm come from ??
That finals really did him well
I don’t trust the voting process
balmy wolf
People are able to vote multiple times
raw ermine
really?
raw ermine
that is flawed as hell
tropic herald
Philly using their good money
raw ermine
no cause carpe had more votes
balmy wolf
Have you seen sado play?
raw ermine
would have been easier to pull off
balmy wolf
Fan vote is only 25%
raw ermine
still is worth something
hot heart
?????
next mesa
thank god it's only 25%
no offense but xzi doesn't deserve mvp after being absent for 11 weeks
edgy tinsel
really?
@raw ermine I've literally said this multiple times ...
Doing it in incognito allows u to do it infinitely
raw ermine
Must have not seen
hot heart
This is mega fucked ngl
sour magnet
Xzi is very good but I agree
11 weeks absent
Alarm should get it but he won’t so I think Carpe
next mesa
maybe
swift moth
i voted for choi
echo sigil
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swift moth
need 2 people to scam. Must have money
raw ermine
true
tropic herald
There’s absolutely no way someone didn’t bot Alarms votes
raw ermine
yeah
edgy tinsel
everyone will have bot votes
OWL usually gets like 60k viewers iirc?
So thats either lots of people voting who dont watch owl
or bot votes
swift moth
yup
next mesa
dont forget that asia audience is at least triple of our audience
edgy tinsel
dont forget that asia audience is at least triple of our audience
@next mesa ok
so add them together, around 250k, the top 3 alone are about 70k higher
swift moth
also asia audiance will probably vote for apac players
tropic herald
The audience in Asia is a lot more than triple
next mesa
yeah I said at least
vagrant jacinth
LONDONNNN THRIVEEEEEE
@edgy tinsel hell yeahhh
tropic herald
London simply just don’t got team play
edgy tinsel
thats a lie
they tried to force divve
instead of running counter dive
they didnt even get clapped either
it was a p close 3-0
onyx solar
LIE LIE LIEEEE
swift moth
I was asleep during the match
vagrant jacinth
I said it before, London looks a lot stronger with babel and glister
karmic grotto
You know who else is strong
Your mother
Anyway
I was watching dragons vs spark and nyxl
and as I see Dragons playing, I don't see Shock winning
earnest leaf
In this current meta Dragons would probably beat shock
but if we went to a rein rush meta
earnest leaf
shock wins
earnest leaf
Rascal mei aswell
and then I don't think anyone on shd can consistently contest ans on widow
true hound
Diem..?
karmic grotto
Yes they can
true hound
All 3 of them are good widows
karmic grotto
ans never played vs dragon tanks pressure yet
I don't think he would get much sight line
maybe he will
depends on shock
true hound
idk
Dragons probs know by now ANS is a threat and will try to play around it
But shock will answer back
earnest leaf
imo I think it takes a meta that favors one team more than the other to see a clear winner
Because if there was a meta they were both really good at, idk who would win
true hound
if it’s still winston dive
Shanghai will probs be unbeatable
idk
unless chengdu does some dumb shit
earnest leaf
inb4 chengdu ooga boogas and goes to grand finals
true hound
shock vs outlaws finals, it will be 3-3 and outlaws will almost complete their reverse sweep
Then they c9 and lose
earnest leaf
I'm curious to see where the meta goes if the experimental changes go through
Because the obvious choice would be winston zarya sombra tracer
Then maybe like ana zen
karmic grotto
ZEN
earnest leaf
But maybe the rein rush comps could come back
But also I wonder if winston zarya stays meta
If shock can improve at the comp to compete head to head vs dragons
But choi would have to majorly improve on the zarya
earnest leaf
Don't know
karmic grotto
Void doesn't do much things
He's simple and clean
Despite having shaky crosshair
But Choi looks like he has no idea what to do
Wasting a lot of bubbles
earnest leaf
Imagine if they had sinatraa still for the zarya
worn falcon
inb4 chengdu ooga boogas and goes to grand finals
@earnest leaf Never doubt Chengdu 🙏
earnest leaf
Our lord and savior Ameng will come to win 🙏
karmic grotto
I would lmfao if hunters managed to get in the play offs
tropic herald
Bro LeeJaeGon on Lucio beats ans
true hound
true
edgy tinsel
@true hound I have shared this amazing petition to OWL team servers
earnest leaf
@tropic herald moth vs ljg lucio duels
worn falcon
Slime 
true hound
Valorant ain’t gonna cure his wrist
true hound
Alarm meta
raw ermine
less than 100
true hound
Wtf he’s climbing
raw ermine
10 away
true hound
ALARM
raw ermine
HE IS FIRST
true hound
#1
tropic herald
I understand Fleta Carpe and Xzi getting so many votes
But ducking Alarm going from under 10k to 1st
tropic herald
I see no logical reason that happens
edgy tinsel
Btw
if anyone is watching platchat
they basically explained how xzi is there
the casters , desk etc etc voted on a top 10
a long time ago
raw ermine
but this is the community vote no?
edgy tinsel
the top 10 were chosen by the desk etc
raw ermine
oh the top 10 yeah
raw ermine
idk
its really weird
If it was philly
bot Carpe
cause he is higher up then alarm
it would be easier and less sus
maybe a superfan of alarm?
hot heart
Hm
Maybe
Or just a philly fan that doesnt really care about carpe
That probably doesnt exist
But
Idk man
Alarm superfan probably
OWL have to be looking in to this
edgy tinsel
well i mean alarm has been more instrumental than carpe
like platchat said
carpe HASNT shown up in big matches
karmic grotto
Not his meta
true hound
no reason to play carpe rn
but if sigma orisa nerfs go through and its double hitscan or smth
not playing carpe would be throwing
digital cloud
I don’t know, Heesu looked clean
raw ermine
XZI is making his way back up
tropic herald
opaque ginkgo
Alarm in first Nani
edgy tinsel
@karmic grotto @true hound i mean the whole year.
he DOESN'T show up in big matches
edgy tinsel
Its actually
Baguette Bots vs Bots
karmic grotto
hmm
tropic herald
Is Xzi Gets it and he chooses Ashe we can get BenBob
true hound
carpe fish skin tho
stuck radish
hot heart
No.
edgy tinsel
no
hot heart
The Council has decided
We Unanimously Stand against an MVP brig skin.
Oppose us and face punishment.
karmic grotto
no
vagrant jacinth
I'd love an ana skin
hot heart
I dont play ana but it would be cool yeah
I just really want a tank skin now
We've gotten support and dps
But
Void needs to get a majority vote to even be close to being mvp
worn falcon
raw ermine
First, there is no longer any limit to the number of players who may be designated as two-way players at any given time. Additionally, two-way players on teams with no academy team affiliate are now eligible to participate in Contenders competitions.
worn falcon
this one is pretty interesting too
digital cloud
if the league still exists next year
worn falcon
30-day contracts: If a team has at least seven players signed to season-long contracts, a team may sign additional players to 30-day contracts. Upon expiration of a 30-day contract, a player becomes a free agent who may negotiate with other teams. Teams do not have the option to extend 30-day contracts unilaterally.
digital cloud
hmmm
swift moth
wait
does this mean that teams have a max of 7 players?
and then the rest on 30 day contracts?
or is it just another contract they can give to players
worn falcon
The 30 days is to avoid something like what happened with Vanc
karmic grotto
...
worn falcon
they hay 14 days contracts
karmic grotto
They all had?
worn falcon
The free agent must have citizenship for a country in Asia
The free agent must have an existing visa to travel to countries in Asia ```wew
worn falcon
@sleepy#4671 No, teams needs to have a minimun of 7 players, max 12. All teams are required to have at least seven players signed to season-long contracts at all times from Nov. 23, 2020, through the end of the 2021 season. Teams may have a maximum of 12 players signed to any type of contract at any time during the 2021 season.
raw ermine
but that will just make more of them Korean
worn falcon
Ironically is VISA to asia, nothing to USA
🤔
More safe to travel to asia than USA i guess.
raw ermine
yeah
digital cloud
why would you say that?
edgy tinsel
Its obvious that travel to asia is safer
proper cove
Ok so idk of anyone will know but are there any non open division/ contenders PC leagues?
edgy tinsel
as if ur stupid ok
Covid is bad in us
Covid not bad in asia
Covid = dangerous
Meaning going to asia is safer
edgy tinsel
sorry thats past my level of knowledge
digital cloud
ah, yes
hot heart
What does hello mean
hot heart
Ye
digital cloud
also, US being bad now does not mean Asia won't be worse in the future
India is projected to surpass all current cases soon
hot heart
Yeah wouldnt expect them to be safe in a year
edgy tinsel
but "Asia" in owl is China + Korea
hot heart
Or less
scenic glade
isn't in funny how in the may melee (i think) , summer showdown and the countdown cup that the team dallas fuel lost to was the one that ended up winning the whole thing
feral zodiac
Yep
raw ermine
I guide others to a treasure I cannot possess
edgy tinsel
i just completed a mission valorant that was "kill with guns"
edgy tinsel
Guys lets take roar as an example here
If he feeds constantly
And we take consistency into account for mvp
Shouldn't roar get it?
For clearly being the most consistent?
worn falcon
Most consistent feeder? Muma
raw ermine
technically
MVP
most valuable
so if we have 2 teams in the league
as an example
team A has 6 excellent players
and team B has 5 poor players and 1 excellent player
then the 1 excellent on team B should win
for being the most consistently best
next mesa
but if we're talking about being the most valuable the mvp's team should also produce top tier results
tropic herald
Master supports ggs
digital cloud
?
tropic herald
That’s what someone said in this game
If you do not know, this is Viol2t and FunnyAstro
digital cloud
ah
pseudo fjord
support diff
edgy tinsel
They added a captcha to the mvp votes
upper niche
What a messed-up roster we have this week: so not only do London play Seoul twice, both London and Seoul also both have to play three matches (each) in three days. And, London additionally play Shanghai while Seoul play New York.
Then, they don't get a break next week either: Seoul and London play both of the only APAC matches - one of which is again against London, and London against NYXL again
karmic grotto
upper niche
So basically to bring everyone up to having 21 games played, London and Seoul both have to play 5 games in two weekends, NYXL play 2, and HZS/SHD play one.