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forest raven
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@earnest leaf It's like shock go inside a hyperbolic time chamber with learning new comps

surreal stone
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LETS GOOOOOO

nova cosmos
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FUSION FANS MALDING LIKE EGGSHOW

fierce narwhal
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ggs

lean spire
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gg

fierce narwhal
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ggs everyone

surreal stone
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gg

round cargo
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gg

ornate rose
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ggs 😦

sullen notch
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gg

raw ermine
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yep

harsh hatch
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ggs

surreal stone
forest raven
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DAB ON EM

earnest leaf
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told ya shock would win

dreamy cave
sullen notch
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expected tbf

fierce narwhal
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VAMONOS

edgy tinsel
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Super interview pls

dark hedge
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gg

nova cosmos
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GG

vagrant jacinth
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GG

sullen notch
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fusion just fell apart

fierce narwhal
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yep

surreal stone
harsh hatch
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sado isnt good

round cargo
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poor heesu

fierce narwhal
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gggggggggggggggs

raven escarp
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that was boring

sullen notch
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shock really shouldnt have run ans on the sombra, they might've 4-0ed

drowsy acorn
dreamy cave
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turn the cams off

ornate rose
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poor alarm

dreamy cave
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i dont wanna see em cry

ornate rose
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he played so well

harsh hatch
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ggs

vagrant jacinth
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philly really not gonna win anything huh

dark hedge
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oh no

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alarm

gloomy vector
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well the rematch is next week

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lul

fierce narwhal
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GGGGGGGG

round cargo
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6000 sr

fierce narwhal
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gg

surreal stone
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poor alarm

white sinew
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Take rascal out and fusion wins

outer zenith
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@raven escarp That was 1 map. Still would have lost the other.

dark hedge
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nah

balmy wolf
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ripp

lean spire
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unlucky dps meta for fusion

dark hedge
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they could just put in taiyo instead of rascal

strange grove
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noice

balmy wolf
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shock smurfing

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they could put super instead of rascal

lean spire
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taiyo isnt as good as rascal lol

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he'll develop tho

sullen notch
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yeah im surpised they didnt play him at all

hollow river
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shock >>>

balmy wolf
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imagine if they didn't let architect leave

surreal stone
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they'd be even better

fierce narwhal
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TWILIGHT MVP

balmy wolf
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most unlucky timing for him to leave

fierce narwhal
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TWILIGHT FOR MVP

dark hedge
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they still couldve prob won with taiyo on genji

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eh

sullen notch
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well, they got twilight when architect left

dark hedge
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viol2t is better imo

sullen notch
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maybe they couldnt afford it or smth

surreal stone
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ta1yo is a really good gengi

sullen notch
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we didnt get to see him tho

forest raven
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30 sleeps

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Good lord

surreal stone
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aight boys time to get my 2nd shock shirt

forest raven
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Hey guys

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Alarm for MVP

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Am I right

vagrant jacinth
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thats a lot fucking sleeps holy shit

balmy wolf
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twilight secured oasis

sullen berry
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That's the Cr0ng answer

worn falcon
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Gg

surreal stone
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30 sleepys my god

earnest leaf
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I still think alarm is the roty front runner

balmy wolf
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fleta mvp

worn falcon
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@forest raven yes

vagrant jacinth
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That's the Cr0ng answer
@sullen berry lmao yess

forest raven
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Philadelphia "We've Still Won Nothing" Fusion YEP

surreal stone
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lmao philly fans are malding bad rn

balmy wolf
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lol

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sucks for philly tho

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they've been in 2nd place for so many finals

surreal stone
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they're spamming !throw !chipsa

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lmao

nova cosmos
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rt shock

earnest leaf
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Shock adapted and beat philly at their own game

nova cosmos
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for 100 tokens

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50 people

earnest leaf
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that's fucking terrifying

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also

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jfc

balmy wolf
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i gotta say tho dragons looking the best on dive

lean spire
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lol

balmy wolf
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damn

nova cosmos
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rascal had no practice

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omg

vagrant jacinth
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super interview PogChimp

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gg rascal

hollow river
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so it's shanghai vs sf ?

balmy wolf
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rascal just practing his blades in his head

gloomy vector
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prob

balmy wolf
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i dont think

forest raven
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This team is terrifying @earnest leaf

outer zenith
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Didn't Super only play Genji against Boston?

nova cosmos
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they lost because they had no carpe

balmy wolf
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regions are seperate

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and covid

ornate rose
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id love to watch dragons vs shock

vagrant jacinth
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super is so damn smug i love it

earnest leaf
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if the current experimental nerfs go through to orisa sig, I wonder if rein will take over

forest raven
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The ego grows Weirdchamp

earnest leaf
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if it does shock beats dragons 100%

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if it goes to winston zarya mainly, dragons might beat em

balmy wolf
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How are the Shock so good

forest raven
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I think it will take a long long time for there to be another team that could beat the Shock roster at rush

earnest leaf
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Crusty's crack pipe can do magical things

balmy wolf
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teamwork, thirst for win

forest raven
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Super literally just said they didn't plan to run him on rein

surreal stone
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Is that it season 3 is over?

balmy wolf
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Drugs

forest raven
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What is this team??????????

nova cosmos
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shock won every single round

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rascal was in

outer zenith
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MVP talent on every role, and on the bench, that no other team can match.

nova cosmos
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damn

vagrant jacinth
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they're too goddamn good

earnest leaf
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I mean they were the best goats team

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just toss moth/super on rein/lucio

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ez

surreal stone
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I'm glad I've stuck with shock since s1

forest raven
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Aw dude

vagrant jacinth
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no rascal no win

forest raven
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Watching moth dunk on astro

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That made me feel good

scenic saffron
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so does this mean that there will be another shock skin?

forest raven
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No

raw ermine
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borger

surreal stone
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Is season 3 over now ?

forest raven
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This wasn't the actual playoffs

scenic saffron
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oh my bad

forest raven
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This was a tournament

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The postseason playoffs is the big one

true hound
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Y’all are forgetting the dark horse

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Houston outlaws

forest raven
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Two more weeks of regular season games

nova cosmos
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get sticked bugged lol

forest raven
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Then postseason

balmy wolf
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When does postseason playoffs start

scenic saffron
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they played this one for wins on the record right

balmy wolf
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kind of sucks that smurf isnt in the mvp list

nova cosmos
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if i get the code is it wrong to get a another team skin?

tropic herald
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Okay show me Shock v Shanghai now

nova cosmos
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like

tropic herald
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Thanks

vagrant jacinth
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houston outZaryaLULs

true hound
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They’re the best

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Two outstanding main tanks

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Ex NYXL off tank

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Terrifying support duo

forest raven
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Quarter finalists get 1 bonus win, semi finalists get 2 bonus wins, winner gets 3 bonus wins @scenic saffron

true hound
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Two of the best hitscans Blase and Linkzr

forest raven
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And losses aren't recorded

true hound
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and U have Danteh the best dps in the league

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Houston wins this

scenic saffron
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oh okay, thanks Draw

tropic herald
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Have they added wins yet from CC

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Bc Shanghai should be sitting at 26-2 now right?

forest raven
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I think if sombra and dive are still the best

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Shanghai win

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If rein is more viable

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Shock win

tropic herald
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Fearless rein is not anything to sleep on

wheat vortex
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Philly coaches actually throwing

tropic herald
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Their rush comp is clean

wheat vortex
true hound
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philly is runaway 2

forest raven
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Shock is the best rush team in the world

tropic herald
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I want to see Shanghai rush into Shock rush

forest raven
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God

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I'd lose

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So hard

true hound
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no it’s houston

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don’t lie to ur self

tropic herald
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Fearless has shatters like Eye of the Kaiser

balmy wolf
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in the dive im putting my money on dragons

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in rush its pretty even

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if u didnt watch the apac showdown, dragons basically played it like a regular season game

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it wasnt even close

tropic herald
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Shanghai didn’t want to lose their first map to Hangzhou

vagrant jacinth
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shanghai are so stronk

forest raven
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God I need APAC vs NA

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NOW

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GIVE IT TO ME

vagrant jacinth
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ikr!

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i want to see it so bad

forest raven
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It's amazing how much more hype overwatch is when orisa is out and ana is in

fierce narwhal
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IKR

outer zenith
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The 5th fastest.

fierce narwhal
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lol

vagrant jacinth
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custa

warm elbow
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Does an MVP skin only come from the actual play offs

forest raven
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Mhm

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MVP skin is for the season MVP

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And there's a champion skin for the team that won the year

nova cosmos
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playoffs are next

forest raven
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2018 jjonak was mvp and got the zen skin, london won and got the winston skin

hardy cloak
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ye

forest raven
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2019 sina was mvp and got the zarya skin, shock won and got the doom skin

hardy cloak
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and then zarya

forest raven
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@warm elbow

nova cosmos
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aug 14th

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next matchs

vagrant jacinth
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seoul,shanghai and seoul pog

nova cosmos
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oo rematch on the 15th

hardy cloak
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will there be world cup this year or not

forest raven
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Probs not

vagrant jacinth
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and im p sure we got seoul again the weekafter

hardy cloak
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well i dont think itll make a difference

forest raven
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Christ

warm elbow
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@forest raven ok thanks

forest raven
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It's only 9:30am

earnest leaf
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I mean we all know SK would win WC this year

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no corey/sinatraa

nova cosmos
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hopefully i get 60 tokens

sour magnet
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LIP
SP9RKLE
MANO
CRONG
ALARM
MOTH

Would be my dream starting 6

earnest leaf
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super and space said they wouldn't play in it

nova cosmos
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and the 100 for the code..

true hound
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space said no?

earnest leaf
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I think

true hound
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So they’d have to Go uhh

earnest leaf
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I know super did

true hound
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Gator

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And uh

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Idk

tropic herald
hardy cloak
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theyre playing owl games on cam so they should ba able to play world cup on cam

vagrant jacinth
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00:35

tropic herald
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Man I watched that flank

balmy wolf
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yea no US aint winning the WC again

true hound
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For DPS I’d def put Danteh

tropic herald
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The balls on Twilight are massive

balmy wolf
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that lineup of 3 shock players was enough to pull it through

true hound
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ye

nova cosmos
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wait was alarm crying

balmy wolf
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I remember they said just listen to moth and they win

nova cosmos
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then they lost

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bruh

tropic herald
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If you want to win just get part of a good OWL team and som other talent

true hound
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Alarm sadge

tropic herald
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If Korea wants to win just get Shanghai’s starting 6

true hound
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lmao

forest raven
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SK could field like

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Four rosters

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And win the world cup

earnest leaf
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pretty much

forest raven
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With all of them

tropic herald
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We said that last year

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And they got boomed by France didn’t they

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Or close to it?

balmy wolf
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in the group stages

true hound
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Get Alarm, LJG, Fearless, Choi, Carpe, Decay, Fleta

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Ez clap

forest raven
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SK didn't even practice last year lul

balmy wolf
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however they lost to the US

worn falcon
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i feel WC gonna be hard to pull

tropic herald
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France didn’t even have a good WC roster

balmy wolf
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SK read the meta wrong

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hard

worn falcon
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unless they play for regions

lofty terrace
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Hey

true hound
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get zunba on off tank

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plz

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Miro on MT

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jehong in support

balmy wolf
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too bad he aint in the league anymore

true hound
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ez clap

balmy wolf
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zunba has a legendary zarya

worn falcon
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Miro pepeHands

tropic herald
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God I hope Winston Zarya is meta after these nerds

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Nerfs

worn falcon
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nerds

tropic herald
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Yes

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That’s you

balmy wolf
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dive may be overtaking DS on most maps

forest raven
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I farmed like 300 tokens this weekend

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Nice

worn falcon
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Mei nerd 🤓

true hound
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For usa wc put emongg and jay3 in

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Ez clap

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  • moxyy for projectile
tropic herald
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I really enjoy Winston Zarya Bc the dps lineup and support lineup seems to be map dependent

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Ofc that’s also with not shit genji

nova cosmos
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F

vagrant jacinth
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I wonder how many I got

nova cosmos
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Mayhem vs titan

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rip titans

true hound
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bro how will mayhem beat them

vagrant jacinth
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PhAt rip

true hound
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They got Haksal jehong twilight

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too op bro

nova cosmos
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maybe back then

vagrant jacinth
nova cosmos
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if titans dont cut off

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there good players

true hound
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I wonder how titans would be rn

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If they didn’t cut the roster

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And kept bumper

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probably numero uno

tropic herald
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These are some good records

nova cosmos
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we all want to see dragons and shock

true hound
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hm

vagrant jacinth
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Oh uh, soe's had some bad news? I was wondering why she wasn't on

true hound
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shanghai fucked spark so hard today lmao

earnest leaf
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Yea, hope soe is all good

true hound
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ye

vagrant jacinth
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Yeah same

forest raven
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Wow

tropic herald
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Shock should be able to take 2

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So Philly will be 3

nova cosmos
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i havent played games all day

forest raven
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Shanghai has five more series wins than shock but only a map differential five better

tropic herald
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Philly has one more game iirc and it’s Shock

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So Philly gets another loss and Shock has 3 more games last Philly lol

true hound
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lmao

forest raven
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Pog

balmy wolf
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dragons are locked #1

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shock can only get to 25 wins if they win all their matches

tropic herald
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Dragons have 1 yes

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But shock will def take 2

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Unless Shock sandbag which they aren’t known for

forest raven
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Shock always go hard

balmy wolf
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well they havent lost a regular season game ever since they lost to both la teams

true hound
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lmao

tropic herald
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I love locking at Shock map records

true hound
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Those first 2 matches were something else

tropic herald
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Looking

forest raven
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Sinatraa rein

true hound
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That was strange

tropic herald
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That wasn’t the first time we saw Sinatraa on rein either

feral zodiac
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still can't believe we did that

true hound
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And then Shock immediately took a map off of Sinatra’s zarya

feral zodiac
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glads beating shock

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fucking highlight

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of the season

true hound
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Everyone thought shock was dead

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But nope

balmy wolf
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and then people overhyped but dont realize its way too early to call it

feral zodiac
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super was so bad in those games WidowLUL

tropic herald
balmy wolf
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like when people thought seoul were a top 3 team

true hound
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ye but those were the 2 most scuffed matches I’ve ever seen

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Smurf the chad

forest raven
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Smurf not an MVP candidate btw

feral zodiac
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fearless not an mvp candidate btw

true hound
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kekw

tropic herald
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Remember pre season when Void was getting shit talk for not being good enough

feral zodiac
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remember inaugural season when boston were top 4

forest raven
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Thank crusty for that

feral zodiac
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yoink their last place now

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shock and fusion

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flipped

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completely

balmy wolf
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LIP has been the biggest surprise so far in the season

feral zodiac
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not fusion

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uprising

balmy wolf
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we all thought diem was gonna be the starter hitscan

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but nope LIP comes in and pounds

true hound
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Ye

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Cause lips sombra is fuckin

feral zodiac
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LIP roty 100%

true hound
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alarm tho

forest raven
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Or just MVP

true hound
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Hanbin

tropic herald
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Who wanna match

balmy wolf
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LIP is the difference tho

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as in LIP has a near 100% winrate in every map hes in

true hound
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bruh hot damn

balmy wolf
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hes only lost 3-4 maps this season

vagrant jacinth
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Smurf insane

tropic herald
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🧐

forest raven
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Where you at @tropic herald

tropic herald
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Here

forest raven
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MY MAN

tropic herald
forest raven
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So in sync

vagrant jacinth
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Rascal op

trail moat
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Lol

clear crane
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Rascal is our god

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He had the ultimate redemption arc

cloud latch
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fearless

clear crane
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Fearless a close 2nd

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only cause Shanghai believed in him again and not like Rascal who was pretty much chased out of Dallas

forest raven
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Now I want the next plat chat

balmy wolf
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핼로

forest raven
raw ermine
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true

sullen berry
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Hang on I'm apparently blocked by swingchip

forest raven
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LOL

sullen berry
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I haven't even messaged the guy

forest raven
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Swingchip is a woman

sullen berry
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Oh must be some offline time before the playoffs, who knows

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¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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Private accounts getting their content retweeted is kinda strange

jagged crater
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when is trill akm and unkoe announcing their retirement to move to Valorant full time?

forest raven
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End of the season

jagged crater
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pretty much saw 0 playtime from them, ive seen them play tons of Valorant from other streamers

feral zodiac
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when they ride out their contract

raw ermine
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At least Zach had some dignity

jagged crater
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zach getting hate from Valorant community too, feels bad

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he had a huge blunder yesterday

feral zodiac
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what did he do?

raw ermine
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Swapped brig

worn falcon
jagged crater
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shot himself with a shock dart

silk frost
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ZACHAREEE NO

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HOW COULD YOU

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PEOPLE STARTED TO RESPECT YOU FINALLY

hot heart
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What did i just witness right now

raw ermine
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Imagine if you could hit yourself with scatter

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LMAOOO

forest raven
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Super

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Is streaming

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Pogu

raw ermine
#

here is the TLDR from Tikatee's article

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TL;DR
On Fuel, we tried to force Decay to fit into a team he didn’t share a vision with. This led to his understandable frustrations as we struggled to meet his expectations.
On Team Canada, I relied too much on player individuality and experience and didn’t provide enough structure to them as their coach, which contributed to our poor showing.
Teams need a strong sense of identity from day one. This identity needs to be accepted by the players and be strictly maintained to build a healthy environment. Such an environment is built through open communication and compromise between staff and players and must be respected or else it will fall to pieces when core issues go ignored.

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Direct quote

forest raven
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And that's why shock is so goddang good

raw ermine
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Cause they like each other

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so much that they wrestle on beanbags regularly

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as "adults"

forest raven
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And crusty knows how to run a team

raw ermine
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lmao

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Yes

forest raven
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Fuckin

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Shock were kinda asleep in the beginning against florida

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Game break, talk with crusty

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Team came out and fucking spanked the mayhem

raw ermine
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God gamers, they all were

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GUY

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GUYS

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BAD NEWS

hot heart
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OH NOOO

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I remember giving jeff kaplan all my credit card info because he wanted to make another OW

silk frost
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LIBERO NOOOOOOOOOOO

hot heart
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Good to help others out

raw ermine
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His PFP legit has a search bar at the top xddd

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AHAHAHAH

storm cloak
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Just watched some of the matches

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I wish Chengdu could've won 😔

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When do they get the ability to go quad dps again lol?

raw ermine
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When ameng becomes commissioner of OWL

jagged crater
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ameng gets all the ladies

raw ermine
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I just went on his twitter

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idk

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why this is so funny

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You have been insulted by the Ball god, Jeff Kaplan

forest raven
raw ermine
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I feel so bad

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but this is so funny

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Whoa choi

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calm down

jagged crater
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love seeing koreans get memey

next mesa
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Can someone summarize the tourney

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What are some highlights

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I was outside

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I know carpe didn't play?

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Why

forest raven
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Paris took advantage of a new meta in the summer showdown

raw ermine
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Cause Heesu was a better sombra, i guess?

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well

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the games up until semis are irrelevant

forest raven
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Shock had some questionable performances but woke up against florida with ans' widow and against philly with rascal's genji

raw ermine
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cause its just rolls

forest raven
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Smurf is the god winston

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Rascal is the god genji

raw ermine
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and

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well

forest raven
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Shock exists within a hyperbolic time chamber

raw ermine
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your name says it all

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Twilight popped

forest raven
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And Dragons are the best team in the world at dive

raw ermine
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oh yeah

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I should watch that match

forest raven
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Dragons poopoo'd all over spark

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Lip is stupid at sombra

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Dragons look untouchable, Shock are omega clutch and omega adaptable, Fusion are great but not good enough, Paris look quite a bit weaker @next mesa

raw ermine
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for the first 1.45 maps, Paris looked like they would roll philly

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HARD

feral zodiac
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charge fucked off somewhere

forest raven
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Nepal was not close

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But as we've learned

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Koth means nothing

true hound
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Everyone adapted to sparkle genji I guess

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Cause at first it pretty much assblasted everyone

forest raven
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Xzi looked kinda cold

true hound
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now with the removal of brig armor pack sparkle couldn’t fuck as hard

forest raven
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Yeah

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And the meta's been around for longer than five seconds

lean spire
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damn sinatraa really might be the best valorant player in the world now

echo quest
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They lost today

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Against TSM

next mesa
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Nice

echo quest
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Actually heart breaking

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3-2

next mesa
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Dragons look dominate

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Just base on the scoreboard

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Full sweep

forest raven
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They were

lean spire
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sinatraa carried so hard though

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he's probably the best player in the world rn

digital cloud
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no, he did meh today

lean spire
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?

digital cloud
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it was more shahzam and sick

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sinatraa dies first so much

lean spire
#

that's not a bad thing

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he dropped 38 today

digital cloud
#

it is more so with valorant due to the value abilities provide

lean spire
#

second highest on his team was 24

digital cloud
#

no, 38 was yesterday I think

lean spire
#

oh

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i didnt see today

#

but yesterday was it just a straight up carry?

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cuz that seems ridiculous

digital cloud
#

it was in the end rounds I am told

#

he seems to have clutch factor to an extent

#

but I would argue his team tends to be more consistent than him overall

#

I am interested to see how rawkus, babybay, and corey end up

#

they looked semi decent

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zacharee

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did not

echo quest
#

We won’t see Sen or Faze play for a while neither are in the knight invitational

#

And idk when the next ignition tournament

#

Is

lyric cliff
#

Weird thing to bring up, but people really triggered that super was interviewed for the match instead of twilight.

#

Real question. Why the fuck do people care? It’s just an interview.

severe swallow
#

OKAY WHO THE FUCK IS VOTING FOR XZI?

digital cloud
#

the same brainlets voting for carpe for mvp

severe swallow
#

ew

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Fleta deserves it more

strong trench
#

eye

silk frost
#

I disagree

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I think there's no real MVP of 2020

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like in 2018 there was an obvious one

#

jjonak

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in 2019 there was an obviouis one

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Sinatraa

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in 2020, who's the obvious standout of the league?

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above every other player?

#

I mean I'm honestly so upset Shu is so overlooked because he was gonna be my MVP

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I think he was the 1 player who's never been below incredible and has been head and shoulders above most other players in the league

sullen berry
#

well until Shu can deliver the results the team have already put in

#

chara and shu will continue to be slept on as a support duo

silk frost
#

he's just not flashy

#

also how do I check the results atm

sullen berry
#

esp when alarm + funnyastro set such a high bar straight out of Contenders NA success and a slight dent going into Contenders KR

#

are you referring to stats

silk frost
#

yeah

sullen berry
#

or results of the MVP run

silk frost
#

the current stats

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with a bar graph

#

no offense to OWL, but I find it PERSONALLY offensive to see EILEEN AND XZI AS MVP CANDIDATES WHEN THEY'VE BOTH PLAYED LIKE 1/3RD OF THE SEASON

sullen berry
#

wouldn't it be fair to xzi if he had a legitimate reason?

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and that he performed not worse - but better after an injury?

silk frost
#

I mean for ROTY I think it's more than fair

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but MVP?

sullen berry
#

However it gets shortlisted, they had to evaluate across the whole season up until a certain point

silk frost
#

they ignored Moth, Benbest with his glowup (although I can understand it, that was more of a personal yearning), Gargoyle, Shu, and Guxue (another personal thing), and instead EILEEN???

sullen berry
#

this tells me they couldn't look past summer showdown, where every part of the player was put into their assessment

silk frost
#

yeah like Eileen is so out of left field

sullen berry
#

agreed

silk frost
#

I think he was the weakest candidate of the starting 6 in Guangzhou

sullen berry
#

but still MVP-worthy according to the ones that elected him in the first place

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he's looked hit and miss at his worst

echo quest
#

Honestly my MVp would be alarm or Viol2t

sullen berry
#

but you can't say his genji looked like it was scuffed during the one tournament in the season he stood out

echo quest
#

Viol2t legit hard diffs supports like GNJ

#

Who is elite himself

silk frost
#

I think his genji has always been good

sullen berry
#

"wore" lol

echo quest
#

xD

silk frost
#

lol

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but his genji hasn't been bad

#

but what else has he done

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I'm sorry I'm just so pissed that HE got a nomination when I could find 1 player who deserved it more on almost every team

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except chengdu

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fuckin chengdu

#

I apologize for kinda hijacking the chat here lol

sullen berry
#

my definition of MVP is what happens if you subract this player and substitute them with:
DPS MVP = TTuba
Tank MVP = JMAC
Support MVP = CarCar

silk frost
#

you've done it

#

you've solved mvp

sullen berry
#

it took some stats to back that up

#

look at the list of highest deaths in their career and tell me which of these are surprisingly good at their role

sullen berry
sullen berry
#

I should have made a time lapse of this

#

I'm gonna do a rewatch of the NA semis

#

that had to be the tightest matches before the Fusion and Shock finals

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given the unfortunate performance off the back of Spark's hot streak against seoul and chengdu

karmic grotto
#

50 minutes

sullen berry
#

can wait

#

just burning through the Eternal Philly VOD

upper niche
#

@sullen berry Is there gonna be Frogger hate this week?

sullen berry
upper niche
#

I mean Froggers viewers basically single-handedly saved the OWC viewer figures last week

#

But yeah, there were also an army of haters in chat.

sullen berry
#

should that really surprise you

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as much as people meme about the viewership

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that kind of goes hand in hand

vagrant jacinth
#

I've got a couple apac games that I missed so imma watch them a bit later on

#

Double tokens was very pog too, I gained like 300

sullen berry
#

made bank from 11 tokens

#

less than halfway towards a future all-stars tank skin

#

so long as there is regular season matches, I'm still going in on these streams

edgy tinsel
feral zodiac
#

nice chart

sullen berry
#

gg i40

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rag tag bunch of veteran aussies and kiwis

vagrant jacinth
#

Apac stronk

sullen berry
#

gatekeepers of the top 12

#

london depends on how many times they need to be taught a lesson

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or if they can get some EZ wins so Seoul don't have to throw away strats with toyou

#

<-- Anyways, textbook production coming your way while I stream this in VC

tropic herald
#

How are Seoul that high

edgy tinsel
#

i have no idea

feral zodiac
#

because the lower half of NA is just that bad

sullen berry
tropic herald
#

Man France is really strong

#

I don’t understand how Xzi is still in the lead

karmic grotto
#

by voting?

sturdy drift
#

Im lowkey hoping ANS gets MVP in this season because i want a special widow skin lmao

#

Although unlikely

true hound
#

if carpe wins tho we might get a special widow skin anyways

#

but I think they get to choose which hero and his favorite hero is cree

tropic herald
#

Fleta already said he’d get an Echo skin

#

So I know where I’m putting my hope

#

I wonder what skin we’d get if certain teams won

#

Like Shanghai would be a sombra skin right?

true hound
#

eh idk

#

I feel like they wouldn’t do that

#

Just cause sombra is cloaked half the time

sturdy drift
#

oh that's true (for the widow comment)

#

mccree skin would be also dope

true hound
#

ye

sturdy drift
#

did miro ever get a winston skin?

#

idek if he was mvp or not

#

so long ago

tropic herald
#

No

true hound
#

nah OWWC MVP players don’t get a skin

#

he just won MVP 2016

tropic herald
#

Only Jjonak and Sinatraa got mvp

#

Skins

scarlet pivot
#

A miro skin would be dope though

true hound
#

then we’d have 2 Winston skins cause xqc and miro got mvp

tropic herald
#

Bc they got it for overall season

sturdy drift
#

i feel like miro and jehong should have gotten winston and ana skins for the impact they had

true hound
#

ye

sturdy drift
#

oh wait xqc got winston skin

#

ok then nvm

#

still jehong's ana skin wouldve been so cool

true hound
#

2018 WC mvp was jjonak right

tropic herald
#

Imagine if playoff mvps and roty got skins too

sturdy drift
#

ye

scarlet pivot
#

If they were to do apex skins or something jehong and miro would get skins

true hound
#

2016 was miro 2017 was xqc 2018 jjonak and 2019 sinatraa

#

Corey kinda robbed ngl but

scarlet pivot
#

Yea Corey popped at 2020 wc

feral zodiac
#

for mvp i hope a main tan... oh wait

sturdy drift
#

how's ANS doing these days?

sullen berry
#

overwatch league wasn't formed until late 2017

feral zodiac
#

not the greatest

sturdy drift
#

aw

feral zodiac
#

he's not been as prominent when he's not on widow

#

his widow still claps cheeks

sturdy drift
#

wasn't he basically picked as a widow specialist?

feral zodiac
#

yeah

sturdy drift
#

why would they make him play something else

sullen berry
#

hitscan is good elsewhere

feral zodiac
#

no prominent ashe player in shock

sturdy drift
#

i see

feral zodiac
#

gotta get someone to pick her up to a high owl level

tropic herald
#

They make him play other heroes Bc if they want to play widow they play him but widow isn’t good for entire maps

sullen berry
#

they need him to be more like rascal to widen his hero pool

sturdy drift
#

makes sense

feral zodiac
#

yeha

sullen berry
#

otherwise

tropic herald
#

Like widow is great for some of KR but you should definitely swap to Ashe or Sombra at some point

sullen berry
#

he becomes a Korean equivalent of Kephrii

feral zodiac
#

kephrii tracerkek

tropic herald
#

Kephrii isn’t good

sturdy drift
#

what happened to him?

sullen berry
#

Crusty don't need a Korean equivalent of Kephrii

feral zodiac
#

valorant

tropic herald
#

Kephrii is in masters hackusating random diamonds

sturdy drift
#

oh lmao

#

that's sad

sullen berry
#

he recently returned

feral zodiac
#

yeah

#

but now he's washed

sullen berry
#

but to the disappointment of players

tropic herald
#

Kephrii hackusated yeHHH and Gargoyle in one night

feral zodiac
#

yep

tropic herald
#

“He’s too urgent”

sullen berry
#

they also throw his games regularly because he's streaming full time

feral zodiac
#

let me just do a big brain manouver and hackusate this Jjonak guy who's stomping my game

tropic herald
#

Kephrii is on the enemy team wyd?

feral zodiac
#

trigger bot time

sullen berry
edgy tinsel
#

Im lowkey hoping ANS gets MVP in this season because i want a special widow skin lmao
@sturdy drift he isnt even a candidate

feral zodiac
#

the spoon tracerkek

sullen berry
#

what a parisian

tropic herald
#

What is this

feral zodiac
sturdy drift
#

@edgy tinsel yeah i was joking in the way that I want a special widow skin no matter what

tropic herald
#

If any candidate is giving us a widow skin it would be Carpe

sullen berry
#

and he go OOB

tropic herald
#

I’d assume Xzi wants McCree

#

And Fleta we know already wants Echo

sullen berry
#

Xzi soldier would be refreshing

tropic herald
#

His soldier is nice

sturdy drift
#

soldire is played in OWL?

tropic herald
#

But I feel like they make you pick a hero you played lots of

sturdy drift
#

soldier*

feral zodiac
#

carpe would be either widow or tracer

tropic herald
#

There was one week where Soldier was meta

karmic grotto
#

wtf

tropic herald
#

One

sullen berry
#

he has the most play time across the past 2 seasons

sturdy drift
#

interesting

karmic grotto
#

wtf is that clip

tropic herald
#

It’s who you survive primal with no sleep

#

Did you read the caption??!??!?

#

/s

feral zodiac
#

problem there

#

i can't read

next mesa
#

Wait why did carpe not play again

sullen berry
#

Heesu

#

I guess he had never been challenged much when he was subbed in in the past

karmic grotto
#

Meta

#

heesu better sombra than carpe

raw ermine
#

We've Won... But at what cost?

hot heart
#

As a coach??

raw ermine
#

Yep...

#

Makes me happy and sad

#

Bazzi and Persia on the same team in Valorant

#

also support t2

hot heart
#

@raw ermine his hanzo was on fire in OWWC

raw ermine
#

yeah

#

it was nuts

sullen berry
#

like dietz nuts?

forest raven
#

What a fun snack

raw ermine
#

meat nuts

sullen berry
raw ermine
#

He was with Fusion UNI?

#

damn

#

I though he could be head coach just off the fact he was doing well with talon

#

but damn

edgy tinsel
#

No genji tracer

raw ermine
#

oh yeah

#

I forgot

#

THOSE...

edgy tinsel
#

We gonna see echo ashe again?

forest raven
#

Wait wait wait

#

STILL NO SIGMA OR BAP BANS

#

These dishonest snakes

edgy tinsel
#

Zarya was alot more used

sullen berry
#

Wow charge/hunters dodged one hell of a losing streak i bet

edgy tinsel
#

higher chance for her

forest raven
#

With zarya banned it's just gonna be double shield again

edgy tinsel
#

No profit genji tracer

#

SPITFIRE FINNA THRIVEEEEEEEEE

sullen berry
#

No profit zarya kek

edgy tinsel
#

Kekw

raw ermine
#

imagine if you said that to someone in 2018

edgy tinsel
#

what

#

said what*

tropic herald
#

Zarya got banned

#

What

#

NOOOOOOOOO

forest raven
#

Yep

tropic herald
#

NOOO

#

FUCK THE GAME

forest raven
#

Double shield 24/7 bro

#

Welcome back to orisa jail

edgy tinsel
#

SPITFIRE GONNA THRIVEEEEEEEEEEEE

tropic herald
#

However Brig bans

edgy tinsel
#

brig is dead anyway

forest raven
#

I can't believe u use pogT

#

Shameful

edgy tinsel
sullen berry
#

Gesture vs JMac for two weeks

edgy tinsel
#

Jmac is better ngl

sullen berry
#

^

#

individually gesture fares betters

#

but they'd rather be putting up toyou if he can either practice or give gesture a break

edgy tinsel
#

toyou sig?

#

lmao

raw ermine
#

Well Fleta and Xzi have over 100k votes for MVP

opaque ginkgo
#

Dang fleta caught up

karmic grotto
#

are you fucking serious

#

genji tracer zarya brig

#

nope, not sigma, nope, not orisa

raw ermine
#

this is with their nerfs tho?

karmic grotto
#

No idea

#

But these hero pools are rigged af

limber pine
#

so much winston was played, it's possible orisa wasn't there

#

but sigma should have 100% been picked

tropic herald
#

The double shield nerfs and all that won’t be there

#

So we have good ol double shield for another 2 weeks

#

And then maybe playoffs will be on the good patch?

karmic grotto
#

Some comments talk about them forcing one more double shield

#

But I'm done with it

forest raven
#

@tropic herald Did you see the clip from super's stream

karmic grotto
#

pro or ranked, I'm done with that boring low iq comp

tropic herald
#

What clip

forest raven
tropic herald
karmic grotto
#

....

#

Thank God they're getting nerfed

#

once again

#

That Brig has too much survivability

#

She's literally a tank

tropic herald
#

At least Hanzo can one shoot her now

karmic grotto
#

250 + 250 = 500 HP

tropic herald
#

Hanzo had 0 reason to be played prior to brig nerfs

karmic grotto
#

Yeah

#

I missed Hanzo plays

#

Annoying Brig

tropic herald
#

I don’t miss Hanzo I just think he should have more than a 0.0% play time

karmic grotto
#

2 shields should have never been meta

limber pine
#

@tropic herald is that during countdown cup or overall

tropic herald
#

That’s the current 2 weeks

#

But I’m not sure if the cup data has been added

#

So it could just be one week

#

Given how long monkey play rate is I’m gonna guess that was just last week

#

Low*

limber pine
#

yeah it seems awfully low

#

IIRC this weeks stats don't get added until tomorrow

true hound
#

hitscan hanzo was scary

worn falcon
#

Oh those bans

#

time for Sparkle Mei

tropic herald
#

We are going to see a lot of Orisa Sigma Ashe X Bap Zen

lofty terrace
#

Hey anyone play on Xbox and is on nae looking for contender leauge I'm dva main

#

13

raw ermine
lofty terrace
#

Ok

vagrant jacinth
#

Holy shit, those hero bans

#

time for Sparkle Mei
@worn falcon PogChimp

edgy tinsel
#

sparkle mei ZaryaLUL ZaryaLUL ZaryaLUL

karmic grotto
#

nico mei

limber pine
#

sparkle mei lol

#

if it's all mei all the time, I wonder if Nico will play

raw ermine
#

Even the OWL teams replying to the OWL tweet for the new hero pools are against these pools LMAO

#

Real account

hot heart
#

Wait

#

What are the pools

#

Lmao

raw ermine
hot heart
#

???????

#

Mm

#

M

#

M????

#

????

#

"Here are the heroes that will be diving out of the #OWL2020 rotation"

#

Just putting salt in the wound

#

Stop

raw ermine
#

lmaoooo

true hound
#

can u just

#

pool sigma

#

or yknow ashe

forest raven
#

Sigma and Bap were never banned the entire year

karmic grotto
#

RIGGED

tropic herald
#

At least brig got banned

forest raven
#

Ye

fickle flicker
#

should i get shd skin for dva or ball?

raw ermine
#

hmm

#

If you like 2019 SHD

#

Ball

#

2018 SHD

#

Dva

#

so probably the 2019 version

sour magnet
#

Who would you guys have on your dream team? (Starting 6 only)

edgy tinsel
#

rascal striker smurf choi viol2t twilight

#

or is it 1 player from a team limit

sour magnet
#

Ehh let’s say 2 per team limit

edgy tinsel
#

Lip Striker Sado Choi Viol2t SanGuiNar/Alarm

sour magnet
#

LIP
HAKSAL
MANO
CRONG
ALARM
MOTH

#

Would be mine i think

edgy tinsel
#

mano is quite inconsistent and moth is mainly just lucio player

#

that's why i didnt

sour magnet
#

Moth is Lucio/Brig which is what’s needed for main support

#

And imo Mano’s one of the best all around tanks

#

He had a solid winston Rein and orisa

edgy tinsel
#

His orisa and rein are subpar imo
I dont remember his Winston
His ball is good

#

also brig is dead now

sour magnet
#

I think his reins good just doesn’t suit his teams style

earnest leaf
#

Imagine if smurf had a really good rein

#

Like as good as super's

edgy tinsel
#

Maybe he does, we've just never saw it, secret weapon

sour magnet
#

NYXL wants to play protect the president with Jjonak whereas Mano wants to play what’s working rn

#

While Jjonaks good I think NYXL needs to trade him

#

There’s so many good flex supports and they’ve tried Jjonaks style for 3 years now and it can’t push them to the top

raw ermine
#

Fearless, Hanbin, Carpe, Haksal, Twilight, LeeJaeGon

hot heart
#

Exactly what danxv said

#

But id switch the support line

#

To Viol2t

#

Keep leejaegon i think

sour magnet
#

I’d go Carpe but for a starting 6, LIP having a good sombra in his hero pool is too good to pass up on

hot heart
#

Eh yeah

#

Lip haksal stacked as hell

#

Literally play any dps

#

Except like

#

Junkrat

karmic grotto
#

Tanks not getting enough recognition

tropic herald
#

Fearless Void LIP Rascal Twilight LeeJaeGon

#

Mmmm

feral zodiac
#

very hard to pick between smurf and fearless

#

i'd pick void over choi because i fully believe his zarya is superior

earnest leaf
#

yea zarya is choi's worst OT

feral zodiac
#

unless i'm a melon and void didn't play zarya

#

now the dps lineup is a really hard choice

hot heart
#

Fearless over smurf

feral zodiac
#

is this team to fit every meta or just the current meta

hot heart
#

Because

#

I think fearless actually plays rein

feral zodiac
#

smirf has a good rein

#

but yeah fearless is probably better

#

on rein

#

smurf has a much better orisa imo

earnest leaf
#

super rein>

hot heart
#

Fearless' hero pool is a bit better

earnest leaf
#

ez

feral zodiac
#

and winston i think they're dead even

hot heart
#

Super rein is the best rein the league its not even close

feral zodiac
#

disagree

earnest leaf
#

Yea I don't know of another rein that is better than him

hot heart
#

Who's better

feral zodiac
#

mano, sado, fearless are close to his level

#

nkt at

#

not at his level

#

but close

hot heart
#

Ye

earnest leaf
#

I don't think sado is close

#

mano and fearless maybe

hot heart
#

Eh

feral zodiac
#

fusion players are hard to judge

hot heart
#

Sado is a good rein

feral zodiac
#

unless they're alarm

hot heart
#

Mano is consistently good

earnest leaf
#

mano is a solid overall MT

feral zodiac
#

ik who is better than super rein

#

roar

#

no arguments

hot heart
#

Fearless is better than both of them maybe at rein

feral zodiac
#

best main tank in the leavue ez

hot heart
#

Not sure though

feral zodiac
#

who else plays rein in owl

true hound
#

muma mia

feral zodiac
#

consistently

#

no

#

muma can stick to winston

hot heart
#

Mumas winston is decent

feral zodiac
#

and never touch rein again

hot heart
#

Other than that