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In fairness, people were saying that Shock was losing partially due to subpar play. So if Mayhem lost that map due to a mistake by Gangnamjin, it's all the same in the end.

something like that
Ah yes let me keep my sigma alive through a halt and Amp field
With no
he reacted to halt I mean
he thought they would live, or maybe Gargoyle called he was gonna grasp and he didn't do it in time
there's more than just 1 perspective
it happens
maybe he didnt have it on cooldown in time???
He did
He had it
he was looking for a window himself too
they died just as it hit the ground
Let them die
Idk man
Skrr skrr
it coulda been a comms thing
Maybe
Doesnt matter now
They lost it
Now they have to focus on the next maps
This gonna be a 5 mapper
Quote me
it was just timing. i dont blame him on baptiste. if he had put it down they could have won true. but dont fault him too hard.
Mayhem win this series
They've been more consistent
many people in the same position would fail in that same circumstance
it'll be close
Yeah
3-2 either way, i don't think it's predictable
Gnj/Byrem have been outplaying Viol2t and twilight ngl
GNJ has outplayed Twilight, but Viol2t has been way better than Byrem
Shock fans when they don’t 3-0: 
houston fans when they lose: 
Florida is playing well
Shock didn't win a single fight on attack without using 3+ ults
Florida should’ve 2-0
Shock is slacking
ANS OUT?!
Shock aren’t playing genji at all
Minus a little from striker
Which was uninspired
Shock's looked rough
Choi's thrown out multiple ults in lost fights
Ans has been fucked by byrem multiple times
Viol2t and twilight have both been picked first in fights
Smurf was just jumping into the entire team and getting melted over and over again
SmUrF iS aN iNsAnE wInStOn
Feels like their coordination has just dropped off a cliff
What did miss
any subs for hanamura?
Shock usually vses brig and not zen right?
So shock won?
1-1
is it paused i just got back from getting water
Damn Kuki motivator
@silk frost super in?
FIGHT
is he?
So probabaly rascal genji
Can see why Moon played Kuki on Lucio in GOATS 
?
he actually answered that
because Custa was smart
and he wanted someone who's less smart playing
to match the intelligence of his team
good
OMG
what
how did he see that

ROLLED
THE MANS A BEAST
gg shock
fastest time yet?
shock lmao
like wtff
RECORD
no ults yet
yo
Bqb
BQB is so smart and so safe
Fucking Nut
Its his manbun
BOB
Bobert, accomplish a task
aggresive gargoyle positioning
I like how people can focus Bob better than my team can focus Bastion
Bob nyoooo
rascal is doing it all
bruh
HES DOING IT ALLL
bqb getting picked easily?
is he?
did he get picked?
learn, genji mains
Yaki waited for space to be made before ulting
oh my bqb
rascal was the answer
hello and welcome to Hanaregroup
2nd point hanamura is just high gound simulator
its the floor is lava
both those maps are ugly and shouldnt exsits
wasn't this florida's pick
bc they're trying to bore Shock to death
damn rascal
kinda hard to get hyped for the same blade the 5th time this week
maybe 2cp shouldnt be played in competetive setting
damn i wasnt reaaly expecting too much from rascal
new 2cp mode should be fun in owl
I was expecting some standard genji
bqbfuck
RASCAL IS ALIVE
if bqb didnt die
but genji diff
fleta deadlift on here
Ngl
RASCAL
hanamura high ground simulator
I love high ground simulator
this round is a perfect example why 2cp is so bad insta 1st point 6 mins timebank second point full held
Mayhem
you don't play this map against shock
it's ok Florida will win, smurfston
anyone who wants to argue look at the 1st pick
they're
poking?
on DIVE?
WHAT
there make a move
thanks
DPS diff
um
WHATTT
BYREM THRE
threw
only 1 tick
i dont know how twilight missed that
disgusting
well
mayhem should have done the same
Oh thank god

just farm emp blade
Never been more happy to be proven wrong
if shock ends up losing do you think viol2t will also flame this team
lul
escort next map?
Why the fuck do teams chose to play hanamura against shock its a free win for them
ye
19 to 20 as a team lul
same maps every single match
well they found their genji
OWL MVP Vote live stats, updating in realtime
All those 10-1 spammers quiet rn😂
is there a cap to how much owl tokens you can have?
FLETA IS 2nd?
Ubers great
HOW
OK WHY IS XZI FIRST
well taiyo also plays genji
They picked hanamura so gg lmao
I feel like everyone who is voting xzi is because paris fans and people who only watched for like 1 week at the start
wait so no more rascal?
while Philly, SFS SHD, and GZC are all spread out
voil
Haven’t been watching this hanamura hows rascal impacted?
Rascal pounding
Rascal made mayhem a bitch
Havana is gonna be a dps competition
Pretty sure shocj hasn't lost hanamura map for 2 season idk why anyone picks hanamura against them
I think that you're forgetting that a majority of those voting are casual viewers who don't spend multiple hours watching and analyzing the league. Of course Xzi is going to be high. His team just won the last big tournament and he was a large part of that.
Hanbin>xzi though
Hanbin is a nut
hanbin is incredible
hanbin is prolly the best or 2nd best off tank in the league right now
I haven't seen much but his Sigma
it's either crong or hanbin rn
His dva is excellent as well
really depends on how paris plays vs philly
Crong is best sigma but not really other off tank
wasn't he a good zar?
Maybe but zarya is lower impact in this meta
space for sure top 5 most handsome owl players
oh it's mr. 50%
Space good but his team result doesn't reflect it unfortunately
ans widow
yes best widow in the league is here
mr. 50%
that's not decay
yes best widow in the league is here
@hollow zodiac
The best coin flipper.
god gamer
guess this is where it ends for florida
H9
really ???
oh...
H9
fadsjsefalk;als'gdf
c9
LMAOO
h9?
DSNO
houston outluls
houston 9
it's always Florida
ohg
is that Xepher
no?
mayhem c9 so much its painful to watch
you good Empathy?
florida man leaves payload
BQB
i feel like striker is going to translocate into someone coming out of spawn
DAMN
BQQQQBBB
SLDFHGJKDSJKHJLK
This man is insane on hitscnas
BQB
WHAT THE FUCK
hitscans
OH
BQB does not want to lose
thats going in the montage
oh my
This is the Shock redemption story.
"HEADSHOT AFTER HEADSHOT AFTER HEADSHOT"

shock: loses 1 match
Shock: Redemption story
The tale of the best team, crushing our hopes and dreams as they avenge the only significant loss they've had all season.
It's the ultimate arc.
i wonder why florida never play sombra traver
BRUH
florida on sombra tracer would be so good
"only significant loss"
bqb is prolly better on ashe
agreed
ew
have you seen bqb on sombra?
paris have left the building
bqb hasn't played sombra well in OWL
yeah and he hasn't played it in 2020
not saying that he's bad but his ashe is like top3
he played it last year on shit tier mayhem
last year he wasn't good at anything
that blade c9 is the most ridiculous c9 in owl history
i mean bqb literally came into league known as sombra one trick but his widow and ashe is prolly better now
tanks
i just want to see his sombra on current mayhem
died?
what is happening
it feels like Mayhem are GIVING them fights
atleast they forced ot
Trans to save the point
when they couldve first held them
ot doesn't really matter on payload
Who knows? Who cares? The Shock are too good. They're willing themselves into the finals. I've accepted it.
:)))))))
how is it going?
They don't flip the coin. They are the coin.
hello sad, i'm going to watch floriday mayhem lose
is this scripted
owl is fake and scripted, just like wwe
Nice shot.
bqb daaaamn
oh my GOD
that was nutty
BQB
B Q B
man
my man has been playing aim trainer
this game has a zen dif
what a shot
f uck
OUCH
ow
like that angle was noice
bqb and ans are going fucking crazy with these shots man
Gargoyle is an offensive monster, but this shows his defensive blind spot
I don't think gargoyle is the problem
it's one role where I think mayhem has been better overall
they should have saved flux
POG, bqb was tired of losing widow duels so he just fucking throws bob at him
what
what
bruhhh
you just can't beat shock backline
what
how did florida not take that
damn
just end this
transcendance
viol2t trance charge rate is broken
saved them
Choi woke up 
emp ready
shock backline is 1st whatever the meta is
it's gg ez for shock
unless shock beef
byrem is afucking idiot
gg
guy is worse than kris
WHAT
ANS
NO
THE TAXI
omfgg
gg
GG
gg
gg
what a thrower
i swear
fucking florida
they took out the taxi
mayhem losing by throw plays
ggs
should've won that
now
so close
Shock woke up 
bqb was big sad

ima be real with you. its gonna be mayhem and shock in finals
im a shanghai fan im not crying
I was talking about Florida.
ans in nuts
MaYhEm AcTiVaTeD😂 😂
ngl
next match should be fun could really go either way
oh boy
I can still make fun of philly fans 
the paris vs philly rivalry
Byrem though
im a houston fan sooo...
He must be sorry
lul
a outluls fan
outluls are the greatest
I'm a philly fan but doubt we win
byrem isn't that bad but he got played by violet though
linkzr > ans
Philly/Paris truly has been the defining rivalry of this season.
dps diff was more noticable
ok
yeah those supports are so good
there was no dps gap
viol2t?
viol2t is just insane
rascal is even more insane nglž
If there was no drama
yeah violet was super good
Violet should be the MVP hands down
score?
3-1
yeah i agree violet
smurf for that c9 😛
both
florida threw A defense
shock just played very well
florida did do good but shock did a lot better than what they did on 1st map
I see the crusty talk did magic
called it
crusty said if you lose youre getting traded to boston
whenever i see violet play i wanna open up ow and play zen
yo jakes beard is looking kind of clean
yo why did i stop gaining tokens after double tokens started wtf
no one has told me why any team still picks hanamura against shock someone pls tell me
I usually got them every hour, weird
yup
how many people have done the fleta deadlift?
Birdring did it yesterday
or was it Friday idr
i mena if hanamura is your best map then try it even if they have a perfect on it
mean
i haven't gotten any since double tokens
i got thm this morning and yesterday but not today
I am getting tokens
hmm
yah I checked
it takes a couple of hours for tokkens to comp
i get mine after todays maytches
when i started watching on the app
F
lhcloudy 💙
kinda weird man usually get them immediatly
same
oh i get them like 1 hour after
ohh
apparently some people get them a day after LUL
I only get mine when I click the overwatch league tab
Also anyone know if we are getting all star skins this year
did birdring do it for the entire game?
Watching on the website never worked for me
i mean there isnt really anything in the shop that i want so i just have a stockpile of tokens rn
If there are all star skins you should save 400
yeah i know
I'm just copping every Genji skin now lol
@grizzled mango There's nothing official yet. But, also no reason to believe we won't be getting them this year.
Also maybe another skin at start of next season
what
i did want the brig goat skin because it was funny but i didnt get it
they'll probably give out free double tokens anyway
Brig goat skin is her best skin imo
and when it's all star it will probs be 2 tank skins
i just want a good monkey skin imo there isnt one that is good
I like the gargoyle one
i dont
But yeah could use more skins
Spitfire one ???
spitfire one is good
Spitfire one is alright
but it was limited
i just dont like his skins
Specimen best one
i love sigmas skins tho

The maestro one is really good
also rein doesnt have any good ones
same
I feel like most owl skins are really good
tbh thats why i want super mvp so we can get a rein skin
Super mvp 
i wanted a Genji mvp
ew no
i wouldnt mind a bap dva/sigma skin tho
probably a tracer or widow mvp
That's an uncommon take. Saying that Rein doesn't have good skins, but Zarya does. I usually hear the opposite.
we have a tank and sup mvp skin
if carpe does win
Same with fleta
Prolly ashe then
and mccree for xzi
Yo did the Apac grand finals happen? Who won?
But sigma hella nerfed would be a waste
i mean sigma would get another ameizing skin
Apac final was boring
That's why fleta was so high in mvp rankings
was it
what does fleta play
Lets go Paris!!!!!!!
Phily>Paris 
Only team that had a chance of dethroning Shanghai was Chengdu.
then lose to shock so we get a better chance for a bap /sigma mvp skin
Seoul????
but it was bad seoul that turned up
Seoul has sucjed for past 2 months
Spark look good against anyone that isn't Shanghai.
Just watched the shock vs Mayhem series. It was literally Viol2t Diff
yeah but
don't car who wins this but the winner better wins the full tourney
What can I say
you know what seoul are like
in finals
Seoul would be mid tier even in NA
Massive pickups by philly
i dont know if i should be surprise about the ivy pick
Ivy plays more consistently
Sparky in
soon pick is one of my favorite

I hope philly beats paris so philly can lose in a finals again 
Interested to see how he goes against aggressive sparkle

what fdgod changed LUL
Fdgod looks weird
Played so much with koreans he became one
Fielder plays 2 positions now? Do uble flex support
benbest is too handsome for owl
we he also plays with alot of french
benbest
i like poko better but they play different roles sometimes

benbest is more of a maintank while poko is more of an off tank
why didnt they bring in xzi
sp9rkle already on blade
benbest is more handsome
omg
but he got fucking
dirty
destoryed
both have big dicks
true
damn shatter already
sado more like bado amiright
gone
If there's one thing I absolutely love about Philly in this particular meta is how willing they are to mix up their comps.
LEAKED
if xzi is getting voted so much

surely he is good?
script leaked
and they want to bring him out
Sparkle on doom
he was about to say extra shit 
Watching ans makes me want to main widow and throw my ranked games tryin to carry
sp9rkles dodge
Sparkle doom holy
sado doesnt look too comfortable on the rein
watching ans is both terrifying and amazing at the same time
dont forget that
BenBest pinned in and hit Carpe
yeah ill be hoonest i thought sparkle was a genji only
all or nothing
but hes pretty good at doom
??
i believe
Doom is his best hero lol
^
hes a doom specialist
This guy didn’t watch Gauntlet
no ive never seen contenders
why is fielder not 200 ms
Why aren't philly playing fury
wtf
SADO
how did fleta become 2nd
NO
@nova cosmos China
Okay, Sparkle.
oh

that was so bad

rip
yeah lmao
Holy moly
Fielder always looks so sad
Paris are pounding
GO PARIS!!! 
philly gonna fall short again
Xzi MVP for being on bench 😄
they legit put the wrong cam on for fdgod
nah philly will come back 
ngl a 3-0 wouldn't suprise me here
huh
no i think if philly lose it will be a 3 -1
VOTE CARPE FOR MVP FOR GOING MISSING IN BIG GAMES
i think this is going 5
that doom ult tho
no i think its either gonna be a 3-1 or 3-0
was clean
Florida did this to Shock map 1 and we saw how that ended up
would chipsa be mad if they 3-0
At least Legacy is reasonable.
"should have put me in unlooky"

florida aren't paris tho
and Philly probablyyyy wont fold like Florida either
chipsa isnt even on the team basically he blames his lack of skill on "bugs" in the game
You listen too much too comments
oh lmao
but thats just the clips of him i see on YT
yeah i know
you don't even watch his streams
i dont watch him
No Chipsa so win
thats why i added that 2nd line
that 100% win rate is legit
but tbf for me every time ive seen him and he dies he says "i would have won if the bug/glitch wasnt in the game"
but thats just the clips ive seen of him
Maps lost by San Francisco over their last 13 games:
To Florida: 4
To Paris: 3
To everybody else: 0
😳
damn
wow
heesu is good tho
Out goes 1 MVP. in comes the real one 😛
Genji Sombra
lets go philly!! 
wow
Sparkle gives no fucks lmao
that was when he rage quit his stream
he goes in expecting to farm ult and die
ye ik
well
Jesus.........
philly boomed
whyd fury grav??
Fielder is gonna sleep this
I haven’t seen many NA matches due to me being EU but is this Paris’ best meta?
i mean nicer
or nottt
Are they like May Melee Florida?
Paris is a very good dive team
also 3rd point is hard to win on than 2nd
Coz overall I feel like Shock are the better team but this meta strongly favours philly / Paris
For dive meta I think shock has the better winston
it def favors paris
but hanbin is a better zarya than choi
and the supports are pretty even but shocks' might edge out paris there
DPS is the closest matchup
actually too good'
OOOO
MVP CANDIDATE, ALARM
How good is Xzi? As I said I haven’t seen many Paris games
huuuuge sleep
60
Xzi is pretty damn good
LUL sado
Not ideal from xzi
ok he switched that make sense
i stayed up for the finals
which was at 5 am for me
and i woke up like a few minutes ago
no regrets
Xzi on Cree 
heesu actually saving it
OH MY LAWD
these hacks and sleeps on sp9rkle
sparkle getting shut down wow
so unlucky
That was SO close to a C9.
almost c9ed
so close
yeha
lmao
6 minutes down to 1.
Welcome to Numbani C
lul
Happends so many times
huge
What a hold
Numbani C is notoriously difficult on offense, no doubt. But it takes a lot more than that to hold for 6 minutes straight.
philly does get those super lucky clutch plays
now Fusion either loses to first piont or wins
philly still in this
MVP CANDIDATE, ALARM.
ALARM
i know alarm is do good
alarm mvp
so
alarm god
put in eqo u cowards
they just have too many dps to use
And that right there is why I think Genji's ult timer elapsing shouldn't interrupt a swing that's already in motion.
he just hit like 3 headshots on a nanoblade
6 min
alarms been popping this round
now paris hold
A highlight round for sure.
because its C
jeez
Do they now?
I got for 3 min
wow
OOOF
yea this is gonna be a close game
R omegallul ed
lets gooooo
okay well paris fell

carpe was the problem 
Put sparkle on doom u cowards
give him roty
yes
Is Heesu a gorl
Fuck it alarm should be mvp
alarm said we arent losing
1-1
big dick alarm
So what are the predictions then?
Idk
Paris 4-1 Shock
I have 3-2 for phily if alarm doesn't play moira
Carpes rage makes him 1v6 the Shock
Gee-whiz. Who would have thought that one bad map on Control doesn't mean it's the end of the series for a team.
Alarm is popping off tho
@outer zenith tbf first map is really important
alarm always is ye
Of course it's important. But it's not the series.
Alarm is arguably the best player in owl
that’s way too broad
Honestly I'd love it if paris got into the finals and won
yeah i agree with that ew
U can’t really compare DPS/Tanks/Supports
I'm 13 hours ahead of USA. Being from the future I can say that the Eternal have won.
We have no faker of overwatch yet
eh i mean
I l easily put him as the best flex
I put the stream on 2x speed
Whoever wins this will win the finals
idk shock is damn good
Alarm is better
Did u not watch the Florida match
putting it at 2x doesnt always work it simetimes puts you father back then you started





