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how long have paris been out of power for. Did they even get any practice in?
Florida finally have competent coach and players
I forgot Mineral was their HC for their first 2 seasons
Mineral
rip florida mcmayhem
nerf bastion
cray shit my guy
gargoyle so clutch
pretty good

?

and once again the morons yell c9
mayhem9
edison lol
monstrous
Atlanta just getting crushed
Dopman 

meme strat
GG
OOOOF
zzzzzzz
It almost worked until Gator died
theyre good sports lol
Best minute of Overwatch I've ever seen lol
love the comp
You really wanted Erster to experience that otherworldly ass whipping?
Let the boy live.
Erster would have given them a better chance with a better Genji
it would have probably been
a less bad ass whupping
Maybe, but would it be worth the stinging sensation when he sits down?
I think not.
as a fan of the reign, we may have been beaten, but we didnt lose
Both semis will be rematches of the last two tournament finals
Scriptwriters on top of it
Quite the arc setup.
shock wins, unless paris wins, unless florida wins, unless philly wins
nope
how tf did toronto not win on hanamur smh my head
Bad team
š¢
paris match a go?
humbly request
Should I save up to 400 tokens for the all star skins or buy another normal owl skin
Carpe will be mvp if philly win something
Nicorat?
Control specialists pogchamp
8-0 š®
soonrat?
This is gonna be a slaughter
u really cant go against the top 3,. unless ur another top 3
Paris plz
I am making a ow league. If anyone wants to join dm me
There were be teams and everything
@balmy wolf not the right channel
where should i go
I lost
What the fuck
what did you lose?
SoOn holy shit
i looked away to type what did i miss
SoOn HS lastro
dam
From narnia
from spawn to point
Hanbin
is it me or have paris been lacking lately?
Its you i think
I don't remember their matches tho
Paris šļø
š®
?????
My god
aight time to bring in sparkle and xzi
What did i just watch
wttfffffff
Yeah true
yea i haven't watched a lot of owl recently but from what i've heard they've basicallygiven up
Changes on changes
i want to see a sp9rk1e blade lmao
*be
but i don't understand how paris losse wtfffff just happened
Bro idek
season 3 has been a mad season so far
i think they just didnt have a good rotation of ultimate...
are they playing with the genji nerfs
no
how is paris losing then
You donāt play genji on gardens
but yea they shuda won
oh
everyone wants xzi to be the mvp. but his teams gonna lose
i dont like sparkle mei
i think they get the patches 1 week after they're "officially" out or thats just new hero's idk. correct me if im wrong
wtf firestirke
oof
i mean it worked
damnnnn
so many ults used
didnt mcgravy play for mayhem once
i think they just trade players sometimes
it's an impression or Paris have a problem with the gestion of ultimate ?
wdym
Huh?
Pepega clap 5head
sparkle doom pog
sparkle doom?
lmaaaooo
@dark hedge it was a trade, Valiant was going western and Mayhem was going Korean
ah
ah
thnx
this is a question for a season 1 or 2 maybe og but why did sleepy leave?
he was the main reason i supported shock
uhh
now its just because choi is adorable
sleepy got transferred to washington
and then i think he quit to stream
im not sure
yea i know about the transfer but idk why he left
Sleepy got benched for Viol2t
also sparkles not looking too great on the genji
yep
And then sleepy got pissed he was benched omegalul
i watch sleepy on twitch when im bored. hes a fun streamer.
he was
Super bad
chipsa's probably better for that joke :/

Sleepy got benched for flex support god Viol2t then got traded to Washington which he played a little and even got benched at the end of the season for Gido
So that was a trip
dam
ksfs looking better than sparkle
super was never going to be mvp last season
PING KING
super was never going to be mvp last season
@dreamy cave yea because of bumper
sinatra was majority the only reason he poped off
sinatra left for valorant
lul
but he looking nutty af on valorant so
lowkey wtf would Sinatraa play this season if he was on DPS
Not that...
heād be benched
Covid weirdchamp
im not getting owl tokens
no reason to play him unless itās for the zarya
??
he'd probably play zarya but would it work :/
zarya for the winstron zarya dive strat
i get them like once a month
but then again
Doom isnāt played much
choi is poggers
they might let sinatra play tracer of striker.
depending on how to games went they'd switch
Why
Why would you play sina tracer over the best tracer in the world
Y would you play anyone on tracer over striker
No way in hell would they ever play Sinatraa over Striker on Tracer.
Thatd be a throw
they let super play gengi anything is possible now
Well not a throw but if you wanna play your best roster
@forest raven that is cursed
super genji was against shit teams tho
beacuse shock are playing against dalas or boston and feel a bit cheeky
Titans Boston and outlaws
u know choi had to do it to em @hot heart
He did
they did it to rub it
They mostly let Super play Genji because they were in the process of integrating a proper Genji player on the team. And also, much more minor, to meme.
honestly i'd love to see super to play widow against chipsa to piss him off
i'd actually pay to see that
no they let super genji because hes the best genji player on their team
and im not even joking
super looked better than rascal on genji
yeh i gathered im just dreamin rn
tbf they were against boston
poor boston
Boston literally got 3-0'd by Vancouver
It was just memes.
im just saying. last year super wouldnt have been mvp because sinatra made him look good.
wait i just got back its 1 to 1 paris = trash
super never had the chance of being mvp
and thinking on it now. i dont think we will ever get a Reinhardt mvp skin because Rein isnt something ppl can just play in every meta n pop off or clutch.
even without sinatraa there were so many other candidates
I want a dps player to get mvp so we get a dps mvp skin
tbh
Make xzi mvp
Fuck it
I want a mccree mvp skin
zarya isnt a good flex what do you mean
no thanks no thanks
but we got that mvp skin
my bets on viol2t for mvp
i want choi
ye i want choi
is choi that good
mvp sigma skin would b nice
i never really notice him
but also choi actually deserves it
^
Choi is great, but doesn't fulfill my criteria for MVP.
what would that be?
yeah dps gets all the credit for those big plays even tho choi at least to me is the mvp of this year
wait who did you vote for?
Carpe
I voted for the big boi choi
no i meant k loves wafflo
Carpe no titles
shut
BRROOOOOO
Philadelphia "we've won nothing" Fusion is my favourite team š
lmao draw i thought you said carpe no tiddies
"philly is tied with paris 2-2 when playing them and 0-1 when playing shock this is another reason i think choi/viol2t deserves it" this is more on my line of thinking
Carpe thicc
carpe and eqo 2v6'd the uprising and won never forgetti
MVP for me isn't just about playing well, nor winning necessarily. But actual irreplaceable value to a team that elevates said team above and beyond. If Choi walked out of OWL right now, Shock would be just fine. Perhaps even still favored to win this tournament, or even the entire season. Not because he doesn't add great value to the team, but it's easier to look great when you're also surrounded by greatness.
Fleta's vote are increased so much
I mean choi is their only OT
Choi's played every game since the beginning of season 2
Super nasty on the sigma
yea but super sigma isnt exactly a, super sig.
Carpe is the rare blend. He's consistent, which is nice, but the same could be said for many others in the League. What sends him above and beyond is how he's consistent but also consistently clutch when needed.
choi is better at sig.
Nah If shock didnāt have Choi gg
If fusion didnāt have Carpe gg
If fusion didnāt have alarm gg
@outer zenith thats very understandable. and i agree with the idea. to me MVP means that that player is a must have for any team because of their skill, and overall presence in game. someone who you would want because what they have cant be duplicated
Carpe alarm and choi all fit that bill
also carpe is also surrounded by great players funnyastro, poko, fury heesu, ect
it would take a while for shock to adapt to a super sigma but it wouldn't take long. they'd probably test it on boston.
like they did with super gengi
Eh
Doubt it could hold a candle to actual teams
Choi is needed
On anything but zarya because Sinatraa fit that role
But now Sinatraa is gone so Choi is basically essential
i mean voilets zen stats are amazing
owl will not allow a guy who said kys while employeed by owl to win mvp
jjonak for mvp again
like jjonak zen stats good
ill be honest i dont want to see the xzi pick unless they win this tourney with big use of him
nah xzi wonāt get it probs just off the fact he missed so many weeks
Itās not his fault, but
Carpe Choi alarm all showed nutty plat over the entire season
also why tf is fleta lackin in votes
now whos ROTY
Hanbin Alarm
sparkle nano incoming
i do agree with alarm
Sp9rk1e do be big doe
hes still got it
whos lip?
the best sombra
oh ok
Obviously
oh sit
oh lip is apac know wonder i dont know him
wtf just happened
also dang
wttffff
ksf just nuts
nosmite u moron
Doesnt really deserve it compared to people like Void or Alarm
Muma for mvp
Or roar for mvp
4:14 man thats a lot-o time
Does anyone hear ambient noise on the OWL stream?
lul bob with the 3
sounds like a hoover
It is annoying the hell out of me, white noise
nosmite is getting fucked
wow
Man
the dive just isn't working
Paris* is getting fucked
I want valiant to win to boom paris fans
But I want paris to win for the philly rematch
True
yeah nosmite for mvp guys. lets make it happen :0
lmao
If we get oasis map 5 on gardens final round Paris vs Philly again
It will be great
Tradition
sparkle gonna get play rn
nahh
Nanoblade
i bet it
no way paris speed runs this
^ + emg
Well
nvm the nanoblade was sad
nvm
What even was that blade
no
sad blades
Man got cucked so hard
see
wtf are they doing
As soon as i saw him turn and look at brig i knew he was gonna get wipshot
Touche.
what is this map
Bro paris gonna fuck up and loose this map
ping issues sad times
paris actually struggling
throwing pog
paris is loosing this map :/
this could have been held even longer if dreamer made it to point
Bro imma go to sleep
night
Night

not the same as the summer showdown... and i don't understand why
lets hope nosmite works this time
Hopefully paris don't get 3-1'd
if they lose idk whats gonna happen if they do
Im not tryna have my brackets just fail completely
i dont want paris to win

mostly cuz i like watching ksp cuz hes cracked
i like shax more
they beated philly and SFC but they struggling against LAV
paris got this??
5 v 4 ults
The only investment I have in this game is enjoying Genji, Ana, and Winston more. So, Paris it is.
tbf philly did choke on some of those fights
i'm getting mixed messages each fight paris does
very
yeee
valiant is fucking over sparkle so hard
It honestly feels like there's comm issues
ping issue aint it
200 ping 4 AM warlord
anyway if paris win they will loose against Philly for sure
3 hp smh.
paris might lose 3 - 1
Or... they might WIN 3 - 1.
and it's shameful...
no bapt no win
eh
i want val to win
It's a good thing Sparkle lived there.
LAV gonna to win with ults
Uh-huh.
oh x2
paris keeping this
wow hanbin
PAUSE CHAMP
Why isnāt this HanBin guy in the MVP candidates
oohhhhhh pauseeee
PAUUUSEEE
Paris win this map
boomed
BOOMED
I too would Pause after losing that fight.
Hanbin hard carry there
Why isnāt this HanBin guy in the MVP candidates
@tropic herald For real idk he is craked af
HanBin on Zarya makes me pee white
chill out ^
ksp looking angry
ksp always looks like that
or was
i think its ksp thats having issues?
i swear ksp has no emotions
He has one. A permanent state of disgust.
noooo shax!
well
That's a gg
oh shax...
McGravy wants it so hard
they could have won this if they played the whinston zarya
Oh, would you look at that.
they
dang it
they won
All that doom and gloom.
gg for Paris but its not clean...
Nah, Paris Winston Zarya just better
clutchhh
Dude
Than LA
well paris moves on
Paris good team
lets hope paris 3 - 1 this
Are paris just giving them hope to take it away? Cruel but fair
fielder just head out
nah. its the comp difference. they gave it up trying to run double shield on attack
Anyone know how to get league points from watching owl league
i think ppl are hack voting xzi :0
have the website running dont run ad blocker and its region locked i believe i dont remember
mcgravys huge my guy
for the tokens
McHog's Gravy
Big enough to get retweeted by halsey
as big as the emote
"action packed"
A C T I O N P A C K E D
Researching...
McGravy is Packing10 with his hog
where it has people forced into acting enthusiastic
there's always a different outcome
"play hartstone now" -wink and click noise-
The youtube live comments are pure cringe, especially when shock play
im sure it is i watch the site for the tokens
Iāve never had YT chat open, I imagine itās bad
its just spam
How many tokens par-time is it?
10 per hour rn
Dam ain't a lot but I might do it
also during one of the songs its just jeff spam
at least in this chat my ideas and comments are read n noted.
We're making overtime.
Does anyone know how to link it so i get the tokens?
I've gotten like 150 tokens since the weekend started
Dam
i havent checked
Log into your bnet account you want tokens on on the owl site
fielder on zen with 200 ping
@surreal stone You do it on the OWL website.
its been like 5-6 pauses today jeez
Can you link it please?
The Overwatch League |
Thanks!
np
Doggo.
HanBin is mad heās not in the MVP discussion so heās showing up to take ROTY

cute
The mans is cracked
that was a fast point a
yup
This gonna be map 5?
no
i hope so
xD
dont think so
shax clean
Fielder on normal ping and a normal sleep schedule would have Rookie of the Year on lock.

Like maybe
Sadly
I bet Fielder didnāt trance Bc he didnāt even see his health go down lol
Everyone here is agree with the fact that Ans is the best Widow ?
Holy
Yeh
Wtf xzi?
ouh nice
Damn
he is weak up thats goooodd
not everytime xD
Anywho... I've noticed something. No one seems to talking about the post season activities. Such as the All-Star break. And, y'know... the potential All-Star skins that comes with it.

ive been full stalled on 1st and 3rd i dont think ive been stalled on 2nd
Xzi??
i talked about it a while ago like. befor the torny started
nice round
Valiant arenāt playing bad but man Eternal are looking nice
Ah.
yeahhh they woke up
i miss the all star matches
true i agree with matt
me too š
Did u guys just see that xzi performance
Well, first year we had DPS. Last year we did Supports. So, I wonder which Tanks we'll get this year.
i hope they do them. i dont see why they couldnt do them. just have ppl make some custom made modes for the players
He literally carried all of second point
That might have been the biggest carry Iāve ever seen
[xzi]: vote xzi
lets us win then i vote LUL
hope Paris will play like that all the match against Philly
i havent checked it since 40k lead
yes fleta is closer
chipsa mvp
xzi up 3k votes
Okay so can we disregard the top 3?
nah ppl are cheating for xzi :0 no way that many people like paris or xzi
I called it
Oh
Oh they holding
not gg
Pog
Paris did just win the most recent tournament. It's not too surprising to see Xzi up there.
huuh paris don't have ults...
Recentcy bias is always a factor.
just fdgod
yet
but sparkle doesnt need blade
Paris did just win the most recent tournament. It's not too surprising to see Xzi up there.
@outer zenith yeh they just did
Paris just got done fuckin
gg
gg
Called it
gg
wasnt easy as we thought
gg
Philly are licking their lips and rubbing their hands together like Birdman right now.
I can see that
shock v paris will b a stomp
š
I SEE IT
I think Philly are looking more solid than Paris at the moment. And last time, Paris barely won.
and mayhem vs shock will be closer than a 3-0
hanbin player of the match against, deserve to be fcking roooty
Shock Mayhem is minimum 3-1
Shock is to versatile, and we just had a month of basically no patches in owl, meaning the meta has developed from the summer showdown
I feel bad for eqo, the last match he played in he clutched the shit out of right?
Was that the last match he played?
philly vs paris 3 - 2 match
Damn
The one where Gladiators wouldāve 3-0ed had he stayed
I think valiant couldve won if they just picked sombra instead of tracer on last map volskaya
Ye sombra has such a good win rate on 2cp in owl
his little brother was playing
And paris are just a mediocre team that went up because of a meta, they didnt become that better of players, and they were playing ana brig, and if you catch ana or brig you win the fight for free because they loose all tempo
theyre not mediocre tf
They were number 8# during the sjmmer showdown
what did i just read
Just saying
if its a 3 - 2 match for philly/paris its gonna be tough going into a match against shock assuming shock win
then Sparkle fucked
Iām reading the message of someone who hates Paris I guess
Paris are a decent team that gets carried by godlike dpd
They did win once
Paris did beat shock my guy
Theyre not gonna beat shock this time though
if they win again then i could agree more with the xzi pick but i still dont fully agree with xzi pick
the lip smack tho
im wondering if xzi not notices
Fuel got carried by good DPS, on no planet did Paris get carried by good DPS
good DPS cannot carry to the extent where they beat fuckin Shock
Valiant shouldve picked sombra on volskaya, they wouldve won, boomed paris mental, and win the series
Hanbin is the best player on paris
Reinforce just made one of the most astounding transition's I've ever heard with that MVP line. God damn...
but he also had his entire teams resources
- his team putting all the pressure at the same time
Fuel sucked dick while Decay fucked
yes but in the end he had to execute it properly
@true hound They were number 8# before genji meta
how do i unlink my blizzard account from my ow account, i cant log into my old blizzard account because i dont know the email :/
im big dumb
Paris pulled off the "put all our resources into one player" strat properly, Fuel was just ass at it
they just expected Decay to carry and sucked mad ass
and bam ez burnout
dont think thats a fair way to say it
everyone indiviudally on paris can mathc up with philly nad shock
i think paris is very much an above average team but are they better than philly/shock idk i dont think so but i really dont know
paris just beat them both not too long ago lol
Philly will beat paris this time and lose to shock
Paris vs philly is 2-2 this season
so the 1 win shock had against paris doesnt settle it for u as well?
yes i agree but i do belive overall shock is better
outlaws beat mayhem and proceeded to fall
paris beocme champs and have not lost since
Paris have alot to prove, thats what im saying
Their real rank may be top5. Itās trolling to repeat #8 before genji meta while itās an entire new team who changed one healer in the middle of the season and got Xzi unavailable a part of it. They were just popping off.
Paris wont beat shock again
i dont about that
Personally, I think that 1 win is good, but it isn't as convincing as 2. And that's all, because until we see what happens tomorrow, there isn't much else to add.
I have feeling
Probably the Dragons vs. Shock/Philly/Paris.
@outer zenith Its 2 teams from each region
Overall decider
@cobalt spoke this gonna be SFS champ
Not just 4 teams
meanwhile in APAC is gonna be Chengdu 
You said the "overall" Grand Finals, correct? As in, the Overall season?
Yea
If so, then Dragons vs. Shock, or Philly, or Paris.
wasnt the hunters bad tho or was that another season
@outer zenith you can only have 2 teams from each region, shock philly and paris are all NA division,
This meta has been kind to the Hunters.
Winston zarya meta will be garunteed next 2 owl patch
i dont watch apac so you could tell me spark is the best team and i would say its probably dragons but i dont know
And sigma and brig nerfs mean we dont need zarya anymore, so..... WERE GONNA HAVE DIVE IN GRAND FINAL
S
What I'm saying is, it's too soon to pick between the Shock, or Paris, or Philly yet when it comes to which of the three will make it to the season finals on the Atlantic side.
At least for me.
tbh i want dragons v philly with a philly win but thats me
But in the end it comes down to just 2 teams, right? One team from the Atlantic, and one hailing from the Pacific.
Yes?
Who do you guys thing is the best dive team
@outer zenith No 2 Teams From Each
And then a double elimination tourney to decide whos best
ok ill see yall tomorrow at 12 for a shock win maybe
Double elimination with only 4 teams is odd, but well do it anyway
Who do you guys think is the best dive team?
I dont think philly can compete in a dive meta
I see where we're getting confused. When you say Grand Finals, you're talking about the double elim format. When I hear Grand Finals, I'm literally thinking about the final match that determines the championship. The last game of the season.
Yea
The FINALS
its not necessarily gonna be 1 team from each
Double elims from 4 team
2 na teams could go to grand
Well for that, it's really tough. Dragons are a lock on the Pacific side, but the other team. Phew
Who the hell knows?
The rest of Pacific is so close.
It's literally a toss up.
Its not garunteed that dragons go to GRANDS
It isn't, but it's the most likely.
Dragons and chengdu for apac, shcok philly fpr na
^
Isnt the only bad team in apac london?
All the other teams can compete with eachother
In na, boston, titans and justice are bad
Should justice pik up bumper?
London is competent
APAC doesn't have any "boston's"
They're all consistently not losing every game
Even boston could get alot better if they just picked up like 2 good players
and Bumper?
no way
Bumper needs tons of resources
that's why he was so good on VT
cause he had a world class goats team with him
Roar is the low part of justice though
plus he's played for 3 years with the same people
he is
but bumper isn't the answer
Man, roar does dissapoint sometimes, i heard that he doesnt practice outside of scrims
Probably
And colourhex is the low part of boston
they did good at first
Fusions was a good rein
they had note from previous
and so decent synergies
Fusions was the main man tho
but they forgot to promote him on his 3rd game
so he couldn't play
and they played shanghai
and lost
giving them their first win
yeah
it's HUK
he doesn't spend more than a full roster
and sells the good players at the end to make money
Fusions going to a better team? Pog
nah
he has fallen off cause of how depressing Boston has gotten
and how he can't constantly play rein
Fusions mental boome
it's jerry and Myungbong going
it's surprisingly strong, his mental, for how boston is
Next patch i could see boston doing ok
Less genji centric meta means they go up
In skme ways...
Remains to be seen
hahaha
I should have watched it
They play loser brackets vs IMT
And if they win they will play Tsm again
but sounds like it was close
sinatraa dies first a lot
how did he do that well lol
Wait is there like a valorant league
And later OT rounds
Sinatraa definitely is coinflip
seems I was a bit wrong
When heās on heāll shit on guys like drone as seen with the other Tsm games
When heās not
Heāll go 11-21 against teams like Envy
he just has a certain style, I guess
he would likely not do well on any team other than Sentinels
similar to how he was with Shock
Sentinels have a shit ton of firepower therefore Sinatraa isnāt the win con
He is the X factor
I wonder how Faze will end up being
seems overwatch can translate to other games
they did sort of ok
Faze player decent smashing C9 in map 1
And taking 8 rounds against Sen on ascent
Is hella good
Their attacking is dogshit
Unfortunately
Mechanics were never the problem
Ye
Faze definitely have the highest ceiling
5 t1 talents
Vs washed or t2/t3 cs pros
I would not call zacharee t1
4
Good enough
If fucking guys like hazed and cutler can do fine
Those two
Shouldnāt have any problems
I wonder how the good pros from cs would do in that game
I only follow Valorant to see how the old Overwatch players are doing to be honest
Me too. I watch stewie2k and he always get farmed by the good valorant pros
In ranked
ranked is different though
honestly, Sinatraa seems like he is probably the Sonic Fox of fps
I would suspect he could play any fps at the highest level
The only problem I see with the faze team is because they come from OW and not cs they really donāt have anyone to tell them how to do shit
I assumed the coaches could help
mechanically, I think Overwatch is probably the most challenging game, so I think they are good there
Ye
Their defaults and retakes are pretty shit






