I know they released him
#esports-discussion
echo quest
edgy tinsel
You're not actually going to say that as an excuse for him are you
raw ermine
Oh man harry
karmic grotto
Dallas purge brothers
They have money free
They should upgrade their staff and team
edgy tinsel
https://twitter.com/HarryHook/status/1291129319016849409?s=20
https://twitter.com/HarryHook/status/1291130355391639561?s=19
true hound
true hound
lul
karmic grotto
Nobody asked for the opinion of him
true hound
2 pepegas arguing with eachother
karmic grotto
Literally first thing I thought when reading the tweet
true hound
EeveeA and Harry
karmic grotto
Someone is gotta answer quickly
Why doesn't it surprise me that eeveea is there a second after he tweets
swift moth
anyone know what his misconduct was?
karmic grotto
Calling a girl a whore
clear crane
Holy shit
swift moth
pog
earnest leaf
@karmic grotto eeveea and inserting themselves into every OW player controversy, name a better duo
karmic grotto
Exactly
clear crane
Wait this is eeveea?
true hound
eeveea is such a dumbass lmao
no he didnt say it to EeveeA (his initial comments)
but obviously Eeveea would respond if its juice
edgy tinsel
Twitter
clear crane
Oh but he got himself involved
karmic grotto
Gotta get the fame bois
tropic herald
I want to know how bad the org or Decay is to thank a misogynistic asshole but not Decay
clear crane
Jesus Dallas really is something
karmic grotto
Hop hype train
clear crane
The only good egg with like zero controversy from EnvyUs is like Mickie
swift moth
I want to know how bad the org or Decay is to thank a misogynistic asshole but not Decay
@tropic herald true
tropic herald
I hope Effect got better but wasn’t he a really fucking shitty person
true hound
Chipshajen had something with his pscyho gf
forest raven
Dallas is nicer to a misogynist and a domestic abuser than someone who had a problem with how the org is run
Biggest fan base btw
karmic grotto
Fun thing
swift moth
thats cuz they had xQc and seagull during season 1 imo. 2 of the largest (former) ow streamers
clear crane
Sucks Seagull was associated with this org
edgy tinsel
^^^^
true hound
omegalul
edgy tinsel
Actually stfu
worn falcon
Meanwhile AKM, Trill, Unkoe still getting paycheck and doing nothing but Valorant
forest raven
Adriel I knew you were always a pepega but I didn't realise you were an incel too
swift moth
also now that we are bullying Adriel can I mention that the quote "To learn who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize." is so fucking stupid. No we aren't ruled over by babies with life threatening diseases
clear crane
That org really needs a reboot...
worn falcon
Out Aero, Decay and HarryHook out
karmic grotto
Incel? I literally love women
worn falcon
yeah, sounds like a reboot
clear crane
It really needs to start from the top tho
true hound
AKM Unkoe Trill 100% getting dropped but i cant blame them for riding out a free paycheck and housing, its most logical
especially in the middle of a pandemic
clear crane
Take the Mets for example. Always had quality players but the dumbass owners, the Wilpons are the one consistency in their repeated failure in the largest market in the USA
edgy tinsel
clear crane
Funny cause they also own NYXL
true hound
is that fuel discord
clear crane
So he called a girl a whore?
karmic grotto
Apparently having different views than the mainstream ideology is being called incel or misogynist
true hound
hmm
karmic grotto
Deal with it
swift moth
🍿
tropic herald
He has multiple instances of him calling women pieces of meat or whore
karmic grotto
People have different opinions
clear crane
Oof.....
forest raven
Please
tropic herald
You’re opinion is literally wrong
karmic grotto
Nothing bro
true hound
is Dallas gonna pick up more players? cause after they drop the valorant B team theyll still be fine
swift moth
🍿 
true hound
who would they need
true hound
like their starters are already good coaching is just lowkey scuffed
earnest leaf
Dallas will probably rebuild for next season
true hound
id imagine they pick up another DPS and tank player
clear crane
It’s crazy
Dallas had a combo of prob the two best NA OW teams Pre OWL
and couldn’t do jack
Rogue and EnvyUs
true hound
yh custa said it himself
karmic grotto
His streaming life
clear crane
I was also a hardcore rogue fan too. Sucks to see all this downfall from the former players. Except for Soon and Nico
karmic grotto
His viewers are kinda hardcore
true hound
they all loved xqc but he got suspended the first time it hurt the team
because he was their MT and not being allowed to play around him in matches and scrims is bad
karmic grotto
I have heard on this server many times that because of his stream, he couldn't get far
true hound
xqc was a pepega but the trihard7 ban wasnt deserved at all
the first muma comment i understand + throwing in ranked
swift moth
its kinda his brand tbh, he says whatever the fuck he wants. Not cut out for strict owl contracts
clear crane
I still don’t get that
true hound
but the trihard7 was such a hard reach
clear crane
The trihard7 thing
true hound
what sealed the deal was probably him insulting the casters i think after the trihard7
karmic grotto
What if owl didn't exist
But continued as
OGN apex
Would the sanctions still be there?
swift moth
well then there would be 0 good moira skins @karmic grotto
karmic grotto
Lol
clear crane
Who woulda thought the last of envyus would go out like this
karmic grotto
Good riddance
Dallas Fuel was hyped
But they couldn't deliver
Maybe at a period they were the best
clear crane
Espn can do a 30 for 30 on this easily
clear crane
From Pre-owl taimou and his controversy all the way to harryhook
So much content here
karmic grotto
Starting anew
Just that these little things gets our focus away from season 4
I want owl to succeed and really see multiple cities
The fans
Learning other cultures
And forming rivalry and storyline
clear crane
He was the main reason I couldn't like that team that much
hence why I chose to root for Rogue
I def didnt see the following events from Effect and now Harryhook as well... just crazy this team
forest raven
I am consistently impressed by how dog shit everything about dallas is
clear crane
The thing is its pretty much just Fuel too
Team Envy/Doge was pretty damn good
and so is their Call of Duty League team I heard
its specifically their OWL team
true hound
ur like the opposite, tons of people loved EnvyUs for taimou widow
cause he was pretty nuts on the hero before he became hella washed and depressed (since he didnt even enjoy the game past 2017)
jagged crater
harry of all things gets released on misconduct wtf?
he's been kinda done for a while but misconduct of all things really?
cmon man , that's such a shitty way to go out after being an envy OG
karmic grotto
Gotta find some excuse
I always thought fallas players were farming money while doing nothing
Dallas*
Keep the spots free for talent
Literally what Jayne talked
About the ChipSa thing
Now Jaynes "ceo of esports" vision will finally come true
feral zodiac
they probably genuinley wanted to play
karmic grotto
Could be
Like spree
Who hard grinded
But never got play time
Could more behind the scenes that we don't know
But at least it's gonna be drained
earnest leaf
remember
edgy tinsel
@jagged crater did u see the stuff he said?
earnest leaf
chipsa is still hardstuck low gm
tropic herald
Spree had to compete with fucking Meko of all people and there’s just no way Spree is better on any OT other than maybe Zarya
feral zodiac
i saw the stuff he said
jagged crater
even when zarya was meta, spree didnt even play. Remember goats?
jagged crater
like once
karmic grotto
In Paris
feral zodiac
much less to it than what he was actually accused of so far
tropic herald
He played a little but it was bad
jagged crater
so there was really nothing for spree, not even zarya
feral zodiac
the boomers of overwatch
karmic grotto
Before the kids started to catch up
jagged crater
props to surefour, he's still hanging around
tropic herald
Yeah Spree peaked a while ago so it’s not surprising he’s gone
jagged crater
surefour is OG OG, Overwatch beta era
feral zodiac
profit going strong
forest raven
Surelock
tropic herald
I think S4 is still good but he’s on Toronto and he’s always sad
forest raven
Check his mouse
tropic herald
Which neither thing makes you look good
jagged crater
surefour still nuts, he might not always be starting but he still nuts
feral zodiac
a lot of OG players are going strong
forest raven
I feel like he could retire at the end of this season
forest raven
RJH 
jagged crater
i dont know any other player that's notable while playing in beta
hollow zodiac
i hope S4 not gonna to retire
tropic herald
S4 retiring would really not be a surprise, at least the bits and pieces I’ve heard of him talk about his experiences with OWL he didn’t seem happy
feral zodiac
oh we talking beta
jagged crater
we talking beta
feral zodiac
just pro players?
forest raven
He's had some weirdchamp stories about owl
jagged crater
korean players not familiar with
karmic grotto
Jjonak?
jagged crater
i dont know OG OG korean players
forest raven
RJH is og og
tropic herald
Jjonak wasn’t well known
feral zodiac
birdring
jagged crater
jehong is not playing in OWL
forest raven
Jjonak was a ranked warlord until 2018
feral zodiac
saybeyolbe
tropic herald
Jjonak made his name in OWL
jagged crater
Jjonak is not OG OG
forest raven
No shit dude
feral zodiac
i can't remember but, is sayaplayer korean
forest raven
Yes
tropic herald
Yes
karmic grotto
Rip saya player
jagged crater
jjonak made a name on ladder for being rank 1 ana
feral zodiac
when did he start?
karmic grotto
Bqb did the thing
tropic herald
Linkzr been around for a while
jagged crater
sayaplayer has been around
karmic grotto
Rip OG players
feral zodiac
hmm
karmic grotto
But I didn't had a gaming pc
jagged crater
you missed out on some cool stuff
feral zodiac
oh, whoru
karmic grotto
I wasn't there in s1
forest raven
Mano's been around since apex s1
karmic grotto
Maybe I could have been an owl player by now
jagged crater
Apex season 1 where westerners winning on korean soil was crazy
tropic herald
Isn’t Alarm old in pro scene
feral zodiac
whoru was there with RJH
karmic grotto
forest raven
A lot of the NY players have been around since 2016
jagged crater
was actually an esport redefining time, i was hyped af
karmic grotto
Until
feral zodiac
overwatch league
tropic herald
Most of the NY players were LW Blue
karmic grotto
Activision Blizzard 
tropic herald
Wait Flow3r too
feral zodiac
came in and fucked it
tropic herald
karmic grotto
jagged crater
flow3r looks done
feral zodiac
fissure?
hollow zodiac
what is doing Flow3r now ?
feral zodiac
when did fissure start
forest raven
Meta Athena 
jagged crater
i dont know much about koreans on early release
karmic grotto
But since blizzard is an American company...
feral zodiac
@jagged crater Lunatic hai
forest raven
Fleta and Haksal have been around since 2016
jagged crater
Apex s1 was like the earliest i really paid attention
jagged crater
apex s1 was 2016
feral zodiac
fearless is an og
karmic grotto
To have been able to play OW since beta
feral zodiac
biggest dick in the league
jagged crater
but surefour is the only pro player during beta i know that's still in OWL
karmic grotto
That's how you adopt a strong mental
jagged crater
he was signed to cloud9 in march of 2016 , before OW's release
karmic grotto
And develop
No doubt Boston players will be stronger
Losing this much gives you a negative feeling
But dragons had it worst
Some team has to be the loser
jagged crater
there might be other players somewhere but not signed prob
tropic herald
Izayaki is from Beta I think
jagged crater
technically the french guys akm, soon and unkoe have been around a long time too
but they kinda benched
jagged crater
is soon starting?
karmic grotto
Yes
jagged crater
then akm and unkoe look done
feral zodiac
fusions must have such a strong mental
jagged crater
soon got a chance, he starts from time to time
feral zodiac
stuck on learning orisa for ages
jagged crater
so with harryhook being released, there goes all the OGs
tropic herald
I feel bad for Envy that he was the last person to rep them
jagged crater
lol dallas has been bad for a loong time
karmic grotto
That happens to Titans
feral zodiac
akm and unkoe?
jagged crater
been a meme since season 1
feral zodiac
are they not og's?
feral zodiac
remember zacharee
pliant pond
Fuel and Uprising 
feral zodiac
tropic herald
Last thing I remember Unkoe doing was being mad on twitter and having a mouse problem
karmic grotto
How was zacharee not benched
jagged crater
i think seagull and xqc could've went further but streaming was too tempting
forest raven
Unkoe is always mad
karmic grotto
In that afwul brig meta
feral zodiac
xqc could've been in a top 10 team
jagged crater
unkoe just plays valorant now
feral zodiac
seagull i'm not so sure
pliant pond
xqc was on the meme team
karmic grotto
⚰️
jagged crater
i think seagull could've gotten something on that flex position
his dps clearly couldnt match up with the young bloods
unless junkrat or something
tropic herald
He probably could’ve gone for flex tank tbh
forest raven
His dva was cracked
jagged crater
jankeret
forest raven
Man could've grinded sig
tropic herald
I bet his Dallas contract wasn’t even bad it just also meant you’re playing for Dallas
jagged crater
element mystic such a god tier korean team
https://preview.redd.it/4ctjs0wji7f51.png?width=1115&format=png&auto=webp&s=574ca3ebbb8a8dbac4bff4888c616c38e1f71f7e
hollow zodiac
hmmmmmmm sparkle
tropic herald
Wait Guard was a flex tank
jagged crater
every single player there been on OWL
tropic herald
Do my eyes deceive me
karmic grotto
Oh
tropic herald
6 of those players are in OWL
Other 2 were
Sadly Daco is toxic and I don’t remember Guard being any good in OWL
tropic herald
Unless I’m forgetting stuff Daco was more than just normal toxic
sullen berry
@tropic herald there is no difference to present day sp9rkl3 and EM Sp9rk1e. Same energy all the way
karmic grotto
Boy
sullen berry
Vesta's birthday was two days ago ✌️
clear crane
holy hell that EM team was stacked
but why didnt they compete in APEX S4
o wait they werent created yet
karmic grotto
Can't have worse mechanics than ChipSa
true hound
ok but chipsa unironically has good aim
he made it to GM on mccree
and genji/pharah and doom
karmic grotto
Never
Doomfist had been meta during double shield
And some maps
...
Where is the freaking Doomfist meta?
Always the same heroes
Never soldier, Symmetra, Hanzo, Doomfist etc...
tropic herald
Doomfist bad
Soldier bad
Sym niche
Hanzo would’ve been alright if he had the storm buffs
clear crane
Bring back Goats
raw ermine
goats queue plz
worn falcon
this part
"Dallas is in a sh**storm atm, and I f**king love the org," he clarified. "I don't think is that bad, but... you know much sh*t going on [at the moment]. So I respect totally their decision." ```Was watching his stream, he said to not dislike or hate the org. He says the org is really good for its players, trying to do best even if they're not the greatest team
digital cloud
That hasn’t seemed to be the case recently.
night tusk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TSz-yrq8axE&t=315s really interesting
karmic grotto
Issue was the management/staff of Fuel
Envy itself is a great org
Does this mean
ML7
Can join Envy as
Streamer x Player
Free spots!!!
night tusk
lol 80% of spark fans are branding lol
edgy tinsel
Closer is a good player on a shit team change my mind
raw ermine
"It's also worth mentioning the 24 Dallas fans put sfs as their second favourite team."..."Maybe Fuel fans crave an ounce of success every once in a while".
forest raven
Good branding is worth it
forest raven
Didn't rck have a serious eye problem?
tropic herald
he went to boston lol
forest raven
pepelaugh
raw ermine
no eye problems
well
I was gonna make a joke about him seeing Dallas being bad
but then he went to boston
clear crane
Onigod would be positive here
raw ermine
so close
clear crane
if only they didnt get completely fucked by the Teen Titans
raw ermine
common bro
clear crane
he abou to add a few more to the negs with justice 😦
raw ermine
wait
I don't remember typing "common bro"
?????????
tf
here is a quote from the list of favourite teams and why video
why one fan liked boston as their second place team: "Because the management is crap and huk the gm is a shady guy"
Here's a toronto one
"Home team, also because I'm a masochist and enjoy getting my hopes up and watching it get dashed away over the course of a season (IE Toronto Maple Leafs)"
😢 😢 😢 😢
next mesa
everyone laughing until fusion pulls out the fist
raw ermine
young chippers
tropic herald
I don’t think so
tropic herald
Nerfs won’t be two weeks until Tuesday
next mesa
So only like
a few days off
well that puts paris
in a good advantage
wait
no
it came july 25th?
wait nvm
30th
tropic herald
Either way it won’t be on OWL
tropic herald
I wish they tuned down blade charge rate
tropic herald
Maybe even make damage boosts not affect blade damage
Instead they nerfed everything else
true hound
nanoblade pepega
raw ermine
and bongo
tropic herald
Nanoblade and blongo are oppressive as fuck
tropic herald
Nanoblade might not be in owl but blongo sure is
Also nanoblade on ladder is zzzzzzzzz
next mesa
have you tried using any kind of cc
true hound
if the genji is not bad at the game it doesnt matter what cc you have
tropic herald
You can be an owl level brig but you won’t hit a stun on a genji in the air
true hound
one is a 200 hp genji w/one shot
tropic herald
You know how many weren’t cucked
forest raven
You know how many series philly won
next mesa
not the point
tropic herald
Either way nanoblade on ladder is oppressive and sleeper
That’s the main goal of the damage boosts don’t affect blade nerf
next mesa
I think that's just stupid
in that case damage boosts shouldn't effect any ults
like pulse bomb
tropic herald
It can have an insane charge rate or it can be really good for ult combos
Choose one
Remeber that insane charge rate blade also has fun neutral genji
next mesa
nanoblade was never a problem before
and now with the nerfs
genji deals like 19% less damage with the damage reduction and speed nerf
tropic herald
Overbuff shows rat has a 18% PR with a 57% WR which take for granted
But that’s a high WR
For GM PC btw
upper niche
Is it my imagination or did the Contenders Trials NA stream that just ended only have like 150 concurrent viewers? (looks like 1825 for the 4hr stream - yikes)
true hound
sounds plausible def
T2 streams barely get anything
And Trials is basically the border of T2
balmy wolf
HARRYHOOK LEFT FOR PLAYER MISCONDUCT???
digital cloud
was removed
digital cloud
he called a woman a "whore", iirc
digital cloud
so there was more
balmy wolf
Oh ok nvm
Idk why its so hard for players to stay off discord and twitter and stuff
Just literally shut your mouth and don’t be an ass and you’ll be fine
raw ermine
he was gonna retire at the end of the year he said
balmy wolf
But no
balmy wolf
Yeah he’s washed anyway
raw ermine
leaving in this manner isn't great
true hound
envyus ends in a shit way
sadge
i really wanted to see harryhook just whip out his soldier again for a map just for old times sake
And then retire from OW
but nah he gotta pull some dumb shit and be an asshole
raw ermine
so
Seagull retired cause he wanted more money
chipshajen retired cause
not good enough?
idk
cocco as well
Effect retired cause mental health
Taimou cause washed and bored
Mickie cause
washed
and harryhook cause of this
bad way
opaque ginkgo
Dallas are gonna release Dallas so it's just gonna be fuel
raw ermine
Gov of dallas is like GTFO
true hound
Chipshajen just disappeared
I think he has a girlfriend/wife now who is supposedly crazy
Taimou said he knows about it just doesn’t know if he can say (this was quite a while ago though)
sullen berry
The forgotten successes from Dallas:
- OGE who was either seriously boomed and moved to a better performing team who are slightly better around his play style
- Zacharee, with Corey, doing well with Faze clan as one of small bunch of successful OWL transfers to the Valorant
- 🍮
Leaving dallas is a success in itself if their futures weren't dependent on the org for their identity
Still yet to listen to EFFECT's banger of a song
digital cloud
ok
sullen berry
https://twitter.com/avalla_ow/status/1291018443035152387?s=19 still sitting on buying the new season Jerseys
sullen berry
I can guarantee internationally its probably screwed
It took a month for last year's Jersey to arrive
Doing the standard international loop around EU before sent back to NA before I reaches AU and then NZ
Standard for most parcels but at least another week longer for "International, expedited" FedEx
My company uses courier services daily and it's recovered in about a month doing overnight shipping on time
karmic grotto
I guess a month is reasonable, considering aliexpress takes 3 weeks to deliver
sullen berry
Ignite One 🇨🇳 
VS Flag Gaming 🚩 🇨🇳
I like that Chinese tournaments are finally getting English coverage
Runaway 
🇰🇷 in losers bracket with Bilibili 
🇨🇳
karmic grotto
Right now?
sullen berry
Nah
FLAG WENT AFK
everyone on the Flag Gaming dropped connection to the server?
Krystal popped a 3K while the team was stuck
What a reaction
This match is so hype
FG 1 - 3 IO ☑
Poor use of blade from FGShowCheng
sullen berry
Stream is having a hard time standing up https://youtu.be/v50TUDavQHE
karmic grotto
Isn't it a restream ?
sullen berry
Of day 3? Pretty sure this is live
karmic grotto
I meant streaming a stream
sullen berry
that's how APAC region works, yes
Kinda weird but that NA broadcast with latency is so scuffed that the Chinese restream of NA is faster on Bilibili broadcast
karmic grotto
broadcast difference
sullen berry
My tournament back aka the Herbalife difference
Drop the Quarterfinals, here my faithful semis coming off the back of Summer showdown
SFS vs FLA
PHI vs PAR
APAC
GZC vs SHD
CDH vs HZS
Leave you to decide how I predict the Grand Finals
karmic grotto
Half finals?
sullen berry
Sure let's go with that
Half finals in the lead up to season playoffs / Grand Finals of Countdown Cup 🥤
NA Bracket
SFS 
VS PAR 
APAC Bracket
GZC vs HZS
Runaway about to give BLE the 3-0ver
Time to move onto the main event
O2 Blast 🇰🇷 VS Team CC 🇨🇳
viral veldt
What r u watching?
sullen berry
Scroll up
NeXT is a Korean/Chinese Tournament with a prize pool of USD$20,000
Best teams from both regions are invited, most are from China
But KR teams are the biggest draw and it's got big viewership in asia
karmic grotto
O2Blast is streaming
sullen berry
This is the first time in its 3 year production that has been offered an English broadcast, so the audience is small for a reason on YT
O2 blast stacked as ever
karmic grotto
It's something, a start
jagged crater
what the hell harry!?
sullen berry
That's an o9
feral zodiac
beemoo, look into it and realise nothing has been provided for most of the accusations, don't form an opinion on it yet
sullen berry
Also these days people leaking discord messages without permission is kinda kicking someone down while they're already out of the team
I hope you didn't miss the double c9 just now @karmic grotto
sullen berry
Team CC won the team fight
karmic grotto
I saw CC getting the better of them
sullen berry
But never touched the point to trigger OT
karmic grotto
In Anubis and Busan
sullen berry
You can rewatch this! It's not twitch!
Watch from last 10 seconds of o2's attack
That's all you need and watch it through
sullen berry
Lemonkiwi : WHERE IS THE TEAM??
karmic grotto
sullen berry
mind boggling plays against O2
the clutch factor on havana, letting Proper get away with murder on CC's Lucio
blissful wadi
Someone just told me that bernar is a better off tank than hanbin
blissful wadi
Just a friend of mine
karmic grotto
Bernar > Hanbin
hot heart
Pepega clap
blissful wadi
They said because bernar is playing decent on a bad team
hot heart
I mean
Sure
But you can compare him to somone like hanbin
They are in different tiers
karmic grotto
They are the new team that has players with potential
But the coaching style
Learning them to play passive...
hot heart
Spitfire are a midtable team in apac
And would do well in NA
I think that hanbin is just on another level
@edgy tinsel
Wouldn't be surprised if hes a candidate fot RTY actually
*for
hot heart
Hanbin
edgy tinsel
well sp9rk1e cant so hanbin next best on Paris
hot heart
There are so many insanely good RTY candidates
Sp9rk1e isnt getting rty
Next year tho
edgy tinsel
next year he wont be a rookie
hot heart
Alarm
edgy tinsel
so he can't get roty
karmic grotto
Rookie of the month
hot heart
Ah yes rookie of the month
Lip Alarm Hanbin and tbh
I think fielder could just sneak his way in
But
Its the same as sp9rk1e
Hes only receive been picked up
So we'll see what he does in the the future
idle beacon
HarryHook has been released from the Dallas Fuel for 'misogynist' Discord messages
rly ?? Oo
idle beacon
interesting
damn that method gaming organisation failed so hard
owl organisations even kick out players for misogynistic stuff.
karmic grotto
Waiting for OWL players to leak private DM's about girls harassing them, oh wait, it's about a girl? No problem, zero consequences
idle beacon
a bit harsh, ye. but atleast something happened. method gaming sort of looked away
karmic grotto
As long as Dallas Fuel does what it needs to do to start being relevant again
A fresh start
I wonder how their match will go without Aero. I have expectations for their temporary coach
hot heart
Yong
karmic grotto
ye
hot heart
Who could dallas feasibly pick up
I imagine no one wants to go there
Its like
They're willing to pay good money
Bht
*But
No one wants to go there
Kinda Like boston and Washington
limber pine
who said they don't want to go there?
hot heart
@limber pine if you were a player would you go to dallas?
limber pine
That's not what I asked
hot heart
True
limber pine
You're making an assumption based off current events. Probably not an incorrect one, but an assumption nonetheless
hot heart
I just imagine people that have the opportunity to go to dallas might have a better opportunity
No i think current events would make people wanna go to dallas more
Since
I mean
Would it
Maybe
Seeing dallas change things
Is nice
They always held on to players they never needed
And those players burned holes in their pockets
limber pine
I would have preferred they just get rid of them now
now = the beginning of the season
grizzled mango
Fuel is prolly just sitting there waitingfor their inactive players to make a misconduct lol
hidden vault
I think Fuel will drop harryhook anyways
karmic grotto
He is already released
He would quit in 2 months anyway
He's making himself ready to go to Spain
akm is gonna go, unkoe as well
Then they would have 8 players in the team
blissful heron
Trill will retire, closer will get released
They're rebuilding around this new starting 6 probably
blissful heron
2
karmic grotto
Well, nothing basically
karmic grotto
Benchwarmers
But money will be free now to get new players
I hope they keep their Western identity
hidden vault
I'm not surprise if any of the remaining 6 would want to leave as well
balmy wolf
Anyone have any idea what’s going on with LHCloudy
I hope he’s doing well
I remember space saying he got sick but he stopped streaming and really playing overall lately
raw ermine
nope
We got the countdown cup, then I think playoffs
maybe not playoffs
maybe a bit of regular season
balmy wolf
I want to see Poko/Fury get released and go to Dallas next season
I’m calling it right now
balmy wolf
Mark my words, I’m gonna screenshot this and bring it back when it happens
next mesa
why would they ruin their career and go to like a shit org
hot heart
Fury would actually never
Poko too
fusion is a top tier squad
You don't leave that
karmic grotto
xQc and Space
It never came through
But it was the best complementary duo
Fuel didn't want it, or Gladiators, one of them
true hound
Pokos contract is ending I believe
At the end of this szn
So chances are he gets picked up elsewhere
raw ermine
I think Fusion could keep their entire roster for next year with no changes
It's still really good
tropic herald
I think Sado isn’t bad but it would be a good idea to get another MT to split like other top teams have been doing
raw ermine
He's been good on everything, which is rare for a MT
usually they gave the orisa-winston and the rein player
tropic herald
But it wouldn’t hurt to sign another MT
verbal shadow
bruh its not harryhooks fault they were whores
balmy wolf
LMAOOOOOO
balmy wolf
It took Blizzard a year, but finally no more double shield
tropic herald
It should still be good just not hard meta
karmic grotto
What?
Which patch notes
Hmm I see
fair changed for Brig. Her self healing isn't cut by half anymore
raw ermine
Yeah
less resilient agains burst damage
but more so again damage over time
Hanzo mains rejoice
karmic grotto
Jesus
raw ermine
they can one shot headshot a brig now
tropic herald
She’s still good just not gonna be a must pick
karmic grotto
Sigma is dogshit
silk frost
sigma still will be okay enough
because he has rock and insane damage
sig rein may still be good
tropic herald
Double shield just because it’s double shield will be viable but not meta
silk frost
and the tanks still individually have incredible survivability
so it's likely that they'll be meta to beat the damage in the game
karmic grotto
ZENYATTA BUFFS
silk frost
best tanks vs/with tracer, ashe, zen, bap, and echo
karmic grotto
Finally being able to play Zen without a fucking Brig on the enemy team
tropic herald
silk frost
Genji may actually be good anyways because of the brig nerfs
karmic grotto
You can't play Zen if they have a Brig AoE healing
But with these Brig nerfs
I am hoping to see more Zen in OWL
tropic herald
I mean you can but it has to be a long sight line map
silk frost
and zen still has the damage buff he got when they nerfed discord to 25% which was never reverted
hot heart
11 percent for shock
silk frost
justice, glads, and Atlanta surprisingly high
digital cloud
Atlanta has had good results with double shield
but they can still screw up I'm sure
earnest leaf
shock has lost 3 games total this entire season but still only 11.8% chance
and the one loss vs paris was when they had no genji player and the game came down to legit one fight
forest raven
Legit
forest raven
Shock lost Rialto because xzi picked twilight and lost oasis by a single halt
earnest leaf
I think if people try to run winston zarya, shock wins out
tropic herald
I think Gladiators Reign and Justice being higher doesn’t surprise me
tropic herald
All 3 have locked competent recently
hot heart
But
tropic herald
Looked*
forest raven
Shock 3-1'd Florida
tropic herald
Philly looked really clean except that one time they nearly got 3-0ed by glads
hot heart
But not by much
earnest leaf
imo philly only beats shock if sparkle pops the fuck off again
Because sparkle went giga cock mode for the summer showdown
tropic herald
2 of their other wins were Dallas and Valiant
tropic herald
Actually Philly had a really easy schedule now that I look
I think people might not agree with me but I think Gladiators look much better they just also have to face hard teams for their seeding
forest raven
Philly's had a relatively weak SoS all year
hot heart
Hm
tropic herald
Glads faced 3 teams that made top 4
hot heart
I don't think shock will take this
tropic herald
And didn’t get steamrolled by any of them
forest raven
Shock has numero uno seed
hot heart
True
earnest leaf
grand finals will be hard to to tell who will win it
hot heart
If paris win
forest raven
And shock will get a free ride to finals
hot heart
Paris might win against shock
earnest leaf
also for the upcoming tourney, shock only has to face paris or philly
hot heart
Philly win
earnest leaf
instead of both
hot heart
Shock win
edgy tinsel
imo philly only beats shock if sparkle pops the fuck off again
@earnest leaf excuse me how does this work
tropic herald
I couldn’t tell you who will win but Shock taking a dub isn’t unlikely but neither is them getting knocked out
hot heart
Dont question it 5head
edgy tinsel
Did i miss out on some weird trade of sp9rk1e to philly?
tropic herald
Shock is lucky doe
edgy tinsel
whilst also being on paris?
earnest leaf
but with philly I think they're worse than paris at the genji comp
hot heart
They don’t have to face both of their hardest teams
@tropic herald true
earnest leaf
So shock would probably beat them and drop a map at worst
forest raven
Is countdown cup with genji nerfs?
tropic herald
No
forest raven
Hmm
edgy tinsel
nope
earnest leaf
Paris is the hardest matchup for shock atm because of their ability to play the genji stuff pretty well
forest raven
So only brig armour pack nerf
edgy tinsel
that was already out
hot heart
Tbh
tropic herald
Unless Gladiators or Justice or Florida explode this tourney then idk who else beats Shock other than Paris