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feral zodiac
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Dallas good now

digital cloud
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not without Decay

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but they can begin the healing

rare magnet
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jesus fuel is having an interesting day

digital cloud
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this is almost Titans level stuff

tropic herald
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Does that mean Yong is HC?

night tusk
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damn

digital cloud
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not quite

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but Aero gone

night tusk
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Aero released

digital cloud
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that is uge

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huge*

tropic herald
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Bro I don’t know what’s happening

feral zodiac
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@green stump Aero is gone

night tusk
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I don't watch Dallas matches anymore, didnt even knew about their new player. But hope there will be improvements

digital cloud
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🦀 AERO IS GONE🦀

night tusk
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is their new head coach Korean?

tropic herald
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Well I think their other two coaches were Korean

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So I’d assume

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Hold up

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That one coach is LFT

night tusk
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wish there were more Crusty's lol

tropic herald
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🧐

raw ermine
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Holy crap Dallas is going crazy

tropic herald
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I wonder if we see other bench riders get dropped

raw ermine
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Aero is good but decay

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Akm

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Unkoe

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Harry probably

feral zodiac
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To be fair they've all farmed the money from owl and prepared for valorant ZaryaLUL

night tusk
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it's weird when Crusty coached Note, he looked really good. But I can't say coaching is easy. Can't blame it to Aero

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Aero was the head coach of Team USA who won last OWWC right?

tropic herald
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Multiple good coaches are LFT

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Hmmmm

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Dallas do your thing

night tusk
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!dallas

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!dallas roster

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!commands

raw ermine
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!!commands

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!!help

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in better news

tropic herald
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Those just aren’t commands

raw ermine
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Effect wrote a dallas fuel song

tropic herald
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!!listoftags

young fractalBOT
digital cloud
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you can't use commands without a role

night tusk
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I didnt even knew about paintbrush lol

earnest leaf
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🦀 aero is gone 🦀

digital cloud
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I ain't even a dallas fan and this is exciting

night tusk
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Gamsu & Note are still good tanks. It's really good coaching, but Paris Fusion and Shock are really showing. Shanghai aswell. idk if we can praise Hunters coaching lol

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especially Paris making Benbest a starter who a lot did not expect for this season

digital cloud
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he improved a lot

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as did Sado

night tusk
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I mean before Crusty Sinatraa and Super are decent. When Crusty coached Boston they went insane.

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Good coaching is important & it showed in the past

feral zodiac
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Most players in the league could go far with an extremely good coach

night tusk
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Still think it’s good to see they made Soon & Benbest not bench players. I dont know if they really play the france genji player

limber pine
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Nico?

night tusk
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Ye

limber pine
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He plays mei

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Cuz sparkle sucks at mei

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And some echo

night tusk
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Does he still have playtime

tropic herald
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Nico basically just plays Mei on KotH

limber pine
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He played control during the summer showdown

night tusk
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I do think stuff like that makes it dope, make good use of all your players instead perma bench them

next mesa
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yers

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yes*

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and he might have a better echo as well

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btw that song is really good

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And the plane may be to high
The shock may be to strong
but as long as we go on then I
I know we can try
I know we can fly
I know that we’ll break through the wall and seize the prize

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not so subtle

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spitfire and shock

true hound
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lmfao what

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Aero gone

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Just saw the tweet

swift moth
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🦀 aero is gone 🦀

worn falcon
digital cloud
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one tournament

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one

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and it was the players

tropic herald
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Aero was the FUNI coach for a little

digital cloud
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oh yeah, I forgot that

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does he get any credit for what they did?

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I would think not

worn falcon
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I dont get the EFFECT twitlonger

raw ermine
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he was with FUNI for 4 months

worn falcon
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maybe getting clout for his song?

raw ermine
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FNRGFE for at most 10 months

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he was with dallas for the most time

worn falcon
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Time to bring Jayne as headcoach

dark hedge
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didnt jayne also retire

true hound
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idk

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Facebook gaming warlord

inland pawn
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jayne invented esports. he cant retire.

dark hedge
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also why did aero retire

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and is that a good thing or nah

worn falcon
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Aero didnt retired

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he is open to coaching

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more like was released by Dallas Fuel

dark hedge
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ok but why did he leave dallas

worn falcon
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because he is shit

digital cloud
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isn't he going to be untouchable at this point?

dark hedge
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ah

digital cloud
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like, I don't know what connections he had at Dallas

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but does he really think he can get another coaching gig?

worn falcon
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he may get with team Envy lol

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but i think is late for new coach

raw ermine
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Team Envy is inactive

worn falcon
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they gonna stuck with the interin till the tournie ends

feral zodiac
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Wonder who they'll sign

raw ermine
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team doge has a coach or two now

worn falcon
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and Dallas is a mess now

raw ermine
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sephy? LUL

worn falcon
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not much mess as Vancouver org

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but close

tropic herald
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I think Aero should drop the coaching part and look to be a player management or something

dark hedge
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also has mangachu ever played in owl

tropic herald
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He’s a really good person just not for coaching

hot heart
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Yes

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For Toronto defiant

true hound
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Mangachu moves over to coach

hot heart
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In season 2

dark hedge
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no but like have he ever played in a match

tropic herald
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Yes

dark hedge
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when

tropic herald
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He played Torb or something

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Maybe it was Defiant Gladiators

worn falcon
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according to this

dark hedge
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ok

worn falcon
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Fusion

raw ermine
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yeah he did

tropic herald
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No he didn’t play then

raw ermine
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in season two only

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s3 he hasn't

tropic herald
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He was a coach well before summer showdown

worn falcon
plush grail
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the rare zunba in owl

feral zodiac
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Teams earn so little when they're not in the top 4 lmao

worn falcon
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that was OWWC

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Canada vs Korea

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mmmmh

raw ermine
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way back in 2017

tropic herald
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I just remember S4 Torb v Mangachu Torb

worn falcon
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There we go

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Season 2 only

clear crane
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wait i missed it. aero actually got let go

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LMFAO

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now Hastro needs to go too

worn falcon
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Hastro is the owner

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why he would go

clear crane
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obviously it wont happen

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But I don't believe that the Fuel would win with him as owner

balmy wolf
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i think hastro has family ties to the envy org

clear crane
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He had success in Contenders and pre-OWL. Great. But has shown nothing in OWL

balmy wolf
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like with phillys owners

feral zodiac
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?

worn falcon
feral zodiac
tropic herald
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I think Fuel should really clear their benches too

worn falcon
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@balmy wolf they are, Envy, Dallas Fuel and the CODL Dallas

balmy wolf
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well this was a spicy day

inland pawn
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will onigod burnout first or would doha burnout first? 🙂

balmy wolf
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who knows

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maybe yong will actually be a decent coach

tropic herald
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Doha probably sad

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But given Yong is from EM@ I hope he’s good

feral zodiac
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Decay sacrificed himself to remove aero shocko1Life

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A soul for a soul

inland pawn
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there are definitely teams that would want decay but are there teams that want to hire aero lol

worn falcon
digital cloud
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lol

balmy wolf
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welp fuel has been plagued with bad HC since the beginning

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lets see if anything grand changes from this

worn falcon
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maybe till season 4

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if is still going

digital cloud
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if there is a season four

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Fuel might be more prepped

inland pawn
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to be fair, im not gonna blame aero for everything. I am sure hes at fault for a lot of things that went wrong with the team and he shouldve done something about it as head coach but there could be other factors.

balmy wolf
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hes a good guy

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i dont think he was a good coach tho

clear crane
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I just never got the hype for him

balmy wolf
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he coached the funi roster in contenders

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the same roster that went undefeated for almost 2 years

vagrant jacinth
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Omg aero gone

balmy wolf
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aero only stayed in the funi for 1 year but the success was already there, he coach a roster that went undefeated their entire contenders season

clear crane
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that Funi roster was insanely stacked

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but I dont think it warrants this long of a tenure

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when he has been underwhelming for 2 years now

balmy wolf
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obviously but during his pickup in season 1 it was reasonable as to why he was picked up

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but I doubt him leaving solve all the problems fuel as a team is

worn falcon
balmy wolf
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sounds kinda of sus to be honest

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cuz thats the same thing that happened to rascal

raw ermine
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like decay wanted to piss them off

balmy wolf
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anyway i think the major problems stems from the management

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always seem to have problems as a team when they shouldnt

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its weird

karmic grotto
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Holy

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AERO IS FINALLY RELEASED

raw ermine
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yeah

karmic grotto
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Dallas stonks

raw ermine
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but at what cost?

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stonks?

karmic grotto
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Yeah

raw ermine
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did you see the other releases?

karmic grotto
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Not yet

raw ermine
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they released decay

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and tik

karmic grotto
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Yeah I saw that

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I thought you meant others

tropic herald
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AKM Trill and Unkoe still on th ebench doe

loud yoke
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Getting rid of Aero was a good move but who they hire in place of him matters more

tropic herald
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Yong is interim rn

loud yoke
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yeah but idk how well he will do

karmic grotto
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Why tf is that thread removed

loud yoke
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?

karmic grotto
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I can't see the thread of aero being realised

loud yoke
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weird

karmic grotto
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Wait nvm

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I'm blind

loud yoke
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lol

karmic grotto
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Lol

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Who's Yong?

loud yoke
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Assisnt coach

karmic grotto
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Is he Korean

worn falcon
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Yes

karmic grotto
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Ah fuck

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Too bad for Decay

loud yoke
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Decay being removed was a mistake, hes a great player. Aero needed to go he is way to passive of a coach (while being passive can help in some scenario's) his passivity caused problems to get worse.

balmy wolf
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well at least decay will 100% get picked up next season if he doesnt retire

worn falcon
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Not coming till 2021 if there is season 4

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Or doesn't retire yeah

loud yoke
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oh yeah they kicked him right as trading windows closed didnt they

balmy wolf
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yes

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so he was to wait until the season ends

tropic herald
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if he doesnt retire he will get basically an auction for however long it is until contracts are allowed

raw ermine
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they removed him at his request

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he was gonna be dead weight anyway and he prob wouldn't resign a contract at the season end

balmy wolf
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i really doubt decay decided to get remove today when they deadline was due

loud yoke
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Decay was not deadweight he carried the fuel

balmy wolf
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the same thing happened to rascal

loud yoke
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Yeah i doubt decay removed himself

tropic herald
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theres no way decay was removed jsut today

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the dates line up too well

balmy wolf
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either way im assuming decay just saw no hope and will wait until season 4

tropic herald
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he probably asked a while ago they just wanted to stall so he couldnt just go to another team

balmy wolf
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cant wait for the next bidding war again

worn falcon
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And new players

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And Vancouver dropping the current players

balmy wolf
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after the shit storm titans had I bet their gonna go budget next year

loud yoke
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yeah

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Vancouver made the worst decision possible during their little fiasco. They could've at least tried to trade the players off instead of going dropping all of them

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That way they would've still had a competent team

balmy wolf
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apparently along with poor communication, they had presumably budget problems which is why they dropped tizi and bumper

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since they were nearing the salary cap of the team

loud yoke
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I understood dropping bumper he was basically a rein one trick and if his teammates aren't as good as they are he would've fed every single game. But I always thought dropping tizi was a bad move as I thought he had a lot of potential.

clear crane
raw ermine
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bumper was the fan favourite and the leader, dropping him was bad

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tbh they could have kept both bumper and tizi

clear crane
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This actually makes me wonder too.... they just got rid of the 2 non korean coach and made the KR coach the head coach....

raw ermine
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it's the common MT line nowadays

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a rein player, and a orisa-winston player

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envy just gave up on the envyus 2017 core and went full korean LUL

true hound
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@loud yoke nowhere near a rein one trick

balmy wolf
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yea but dropping bumper was just a slap to the face of runaway

true hound
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Bumper flexed to whatever his team needed to

balmy wolf
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that roster played together for almost 3 years

true hound
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he started as a main support, then played off tank, and then played main tank

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releasing Bumper was an extremely dumb decision

balmy wolf
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and bumper was nowhere near a 1 rein one trick

loud yoke
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ok but still his rein was iffy if his team hadn't been their he would've fed a lot

balmy wolf
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that was their style lol

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dont u get it?

worn falcon
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You see, that's the reason, bumper trusted on his team

balmy wolf
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him being super aggro was the strat

true hound
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^

worn falcon
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Their team was aware of bumper playing like that

loud yoke
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your right it was the goats meta

true hound
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if his team couldnt pull it off then he wouldnt have played like that

worn falcon
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Making them very aggro similar SFS style

true hound
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be crazy and be unpredictable

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bumper did it well

tropic herald
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When you remember Bumper wasn’t even a main tank player that long ago

loud yoke
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even if he did "engage the turbo feed to warp speed" as avast would say

balmy wolf
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yea but it work

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because teams thought they could kill him

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when it was bait

worn falcon
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It worked because their teammates knew how every one played

true hound
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and then they released him

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real smart

balmy wolf
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his winston was arguably even more aggro than his rein ironically

tropic herald
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Bumpers most aggro hero was his Hanzo

loud yoke
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outside of goats i dont think he wouldve done well. his playstyle was made for agro metas

dreamy cave
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wow wait

balmy wolf
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expect he did well outside of goats

dreamy cave
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decay got fired today?

true hound
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he'll be released at the end of the season

loud yoke
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before goats yes but in the current double sheilds meta no

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I think bumper wouldve done poorly in double sheilds not being able to be aggressive and all

balmy wolf
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coaching exist for a reason

true hound
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hmm yeah but remember, he plays how his team wants him to

balmy wolf
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even super won the WC playing orisa

true hound
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if he cant be aggro he wont

balmy wolf
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and super hates orisa a lot

true hound
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orizzzza

balmy wolf
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bumper was a team player at heart

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he knew when to turn down the aggression

karmic grotto
tropic herald
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The thing about goats was if you just didn’t respect the enemy you won

balmy wolf
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and tune it up when he knew they couldnt handle him

tropic herald
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Bumpers style let him live rent free in the enemy tanks head

loud yoke
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their was no respect in goats you just held W

balmy wolf
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yes there was lol

loud yoke
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If you respect the other team you were gonna get rolled

tropic herald
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The two best teams had very little respect for their opponents

balmy wolf
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becuase they were shit

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but titans and shock were always like light switches

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just turning it on and off whenever needed

tropic herald
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I’ve decided that I will watch stage 1 finals

dreamy cave
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i just found out about the decay thing. so rip fuel you will now forever lose to outlaws and maybe even Boston now.

raw ermine
hidden vault
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if an org release a player do they need their consent?

karmic grotto
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No

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Well

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Usually it's mutual

dreamy cave
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man, and playoffs is right around the corner

hollow radish
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Yeah, a lot of changes being made before playoffs, not to mention players leaving

hidden vault
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signing window is over

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could decay already be signed?

obtuse socket
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I heard there was something that prevented other teams from signing him in the contract

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Not sure if it’s true

hidden vault
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wow dallas really being a cockblock

digital cloud
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it is the timing

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they let him free the day rosters locked

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and said it was a coincidence basically lol

hot heart
next mesa
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fuck the fuel

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they are like mini titans

hidden vault
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and said it was a coincidence basically lol
was there a tweet or smth on it?

digital cloud
hidden vault
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damnz lol

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OGE also wasn't happy with the management

digital cloud
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sure, but it is a little convenient that it happened today, innit?

hidden vault
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well probably

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but if there is smth in the contract that prevents signing

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the release date doesn't matter

digital cloud
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as far as I know, there is not smthn in the contract

hidden vault
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i guess only Hastro knows himself

digital cloud
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I suppose

next mesa
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if oge is unhappy as well..

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sounds like another titans

jagged crater
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wth effect made that song?

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nutty

digital cloud
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he had a degree in music theory, I think someone said

jagged crater
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i knew he was a musician

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but never really heard his work

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saw a video of him on drums

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is the regular season over btw? Havent been paying attention

hidden vault
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there are many players unhappy with Dallas

next mesa
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I dont think the regular season is over

jagged crater
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how much is left

next mesa
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but this is the last tournament before the playoffs

jagged crater
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with all the releases, i take it dallas season is done

next mesa
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so maybe like 1 month before playoffs

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problem

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probably*

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unless

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releasing aero was

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a good move

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and they make some

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drastic changes

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but unless onigod comes to na

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idk

jagged crater
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Aero going from savior of fuel in end of s1 and s2, to bad coach #1

hidden vault
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he wasn't saviour of S2 tho lololol

jagged crater
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i am

balmy wolf
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I mean aero was doing well until the 2nd half of season 2

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where they lost every single game expect 1 after stage 2

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they went to being in the top 10 I believe to being the in the bottom 5 in the end

chilly pine
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If you look at their stage 1 and 2 schedule compared to their stage 3 and 4 schedule that explains that

clear crane
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🙏 for Crimzo and his mother

grizzled mango
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Damn that sucks for him. Really hasn't been his day today. Hope all is better soon for him 🙏

hot heart
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What happened

hot heart
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Just saw the news

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Hopefully she gets better

silk frost
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Poor girl

karmic grotto
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when valorant is so boring to play

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that streamers that left overwatch for valorant came back

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to play overwatch

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Because overwatch is such a great game

lunar lance
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Great is questionable... but it certainly has a way of pulling back it’s player base

edgy tinsel
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LMAO OVERWATCH IS NOT GREAT

feral zodiac
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ok

true hound
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ow is painful but fun

lunar lance
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Like... spicy food as a white dude (coming from an asian)

feral zodiac
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Nah some white guys can tank spices easily

lunar lance
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some

feral zodiac
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The ones that just don't taste anything WidowLUL

lunar lance
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Peppe hands

clear crane
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my friend is asian and one soup full of spicy ramen and he sweating like a pig Sweating

lunar lance
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I mean... same lol

feral zodiac
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Spicy food makes you sweat?

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I did not know this

lunar lance
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It’s the heat of the food

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Combined with the fact that it’s intentionally as spicy as possible

true hound
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Nope u didn’t know that

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Pepega

feral zodiac
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Ik

lunar lance
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But not a good tasting spice, just a hot spice

feral zodiac
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Small brain I am

lunar lance
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Korean makes good tasting spice that is also hot

feral zodiac
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Ew just hot spice

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Gotta have some flavour in it

lunar lance
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The flavor is the spice

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So they get away with it

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😔

feral zodiac
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'What flavour do you want?'
'Hot'

lunar lance
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That’s how it do be workin in the instant ramen department

civic lantern
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Is the discussion still about Overwatch?

lunar lance
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Uh

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Hey did you guys see the last owl match

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Man that was crazy

civic lantern
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I could do with some spicy food.

feral zodiac
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Yeah dude decay really popped for dallas SombraGiggle

lunar lance
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Rip decay

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Or Dallas

true hound
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Rip

lunar lance
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Both really

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Everyone’s losing for Dallas

feral zodiac
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Dallas is like a sinking cruise liner

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And decay is the last lifeboat trying to tug it along

civic lantern
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Let's see if the new coaching staff can turn stuff around.

lunar lance
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Did they pick up a new coach or is a lower coach just now stepping up?

feral zodiac
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I think a lower coach is stepping in for now

civic lantern
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Lower coach is stepping up. But I'm sure it's just interim.

lunar lance
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Ah ok

hot heart
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Its yong

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Probably not temporary

civic lantern
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Boston need help. Feels bad looking at them.

hot heart
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They cant be saved

civic lantern
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For Every Patriots there's an Uprising I guess.

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Jerry and Myungbong are pulling so much weight. Maybe Aero can go there.

feral zodiac
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Fusions as well

civic lantern
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Fusions as well. I really feel sad for him. Hid face during and after every game.

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They need better

viral veldt
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Who's fusions?

raw ermine
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the MT for Boston

viral veldt
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Thx

edgy tinsel
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Well i mean you can't say fusions is pulling so much weight

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His orisa is extremely lackluster

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Jerry Myungbong Punk are pulling the weight

civic lantern
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Maybe they just need the right coaches. Individually, they're all really good. The need the right coach IMO. Aero maybe?

edgy tinsel
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no

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Aero is fucking dreadful

civic lantern
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Better than what they have now.

edgy tinsel
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No lmao

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and individually, they're not all good

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fusions can only play rein

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and their supports + chex

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are ... really bad

civic lantern
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Myungbong is one of their supports.

karmic grotto
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Nai as.... coach ? 👀 even though he said he is mechanically not great

edgy tinsel
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Chex , Halo are awful

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Fusions is awful on anything but rein

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Jerry hasn't even been that great tbh

karmic grotto
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Well, it's a dumpster fire team

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Hard to look great

edgy tinsel
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Myungbong does

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They're confirmed last in reg season

raw ermine
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Myung is fine, halo isn't, jerry is good, punk is fine, colourhex seems to be bad at the right things and good at the wrong ones

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Fusions was a goats meta player

civic lantern
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Let's see what they do during the off-season.

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I really hope for better for them.

edgy tinsel
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I guarantee there will be teams dropping out

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As their orgs / parent companys wont fund them anymore

karmic grotto
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Great

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There are teams in Contenders who would love to take the spot

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Would raise the skill ceiling as well

edgy tinsel
#

Its like 30m for an owl spot

karmic grotto
#

but knowing blizz

#

money first

edgy tinsel
#

contenders teams cant afford that

karmic grotto
#

Or

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Owners of Fusion can just buy a second spot

#

You know, like, having multiple teams

edgy tinsel
#

C9 already tried to sell off their spot
SEN already split from LAG
NRG owner said OWL was a bad investment

#

LG is just shite .. rip titans

karmic grotto
#

About NRG is not what I read. It was something else. Can't invest in both OWL and I believe Call of Duty or something

edgy tinsel
#

No they said in the interview specifically
"OWL wasnt a good investment"

viral veldt
#

Can someone explain like if a team drops out of owl what happens?

lunar lance
#

the team org or the members

#

if you want an example of members, then there's vancouver titans

viral veldt
#

Org

lunar lance
#

that's like the "company"

#

oh

viral veldt
#

😂 mb

lunar lance
#

i don't think there's been an example of an org falling apart

#

but i'd assume new management will take place

viral veldt
#

What about team

lunar lance
#

a full new roster will be recruited

#

as in the example of vancouver titans

viral veldt
#

Kk ty

lunar lance
#

np

frank lotus
#

are all members of the old titans in a team now?

next mesa
#

no

#

jehong quit

clear crane
#

I wonder who will play flex support

#

for dallas in the countdown

#

return of unkoe?

true hound
#

Oh shit

#

is the valorant team gonna play?

#

bruh

raw ermine
#

Jehong didn't quit

#

he is taking a break til next season

#

Fissure and Seominsoo didn't get teams too

hidden vault
#

damn fissure

#

had a team that he could potentially do well with

karmic grotto
#

wjat valorant team

hidden vault
#

then had the Titians saga

true hound
#

@karmic grotto dallas’s benched players

hidden vault
#

too bad he seems he seriously wanted to prove himself hopefully he can do so next season

tropic herald
#

SMS said he had offers early on but he was too busy drinking

hidden vault
#

was there a clip on it?

#

but lol drinking?

hot heart
#

Hope he isnt going down a dark path

#

Idk

raw ermine
#

probably and hopefully was joking

hot heart
#

Hopefully

tropic herald
#

I mean I don’t have a clip I just remeber it

true hound
karmic grotto
#

yeah

#

people don't see much in him

hidden vault
#

he said he hasn't received tho

tropic herald
#

The hero he’s known best for is Zarya and then reaper

#

Rip hip

#

Him

true hound
#

yh his hero pool a bit funky

next mesa
#

its big sad

#

any players tyhat didn't get signed

#

is a travesty

hidden vault
#

hmm Dallas

#

fishy fishy

next mesa
#

do they play countdown cup with the genji nerfs

worn falcon
#

Hagopeun as General Director of Busan Wave

#

🤔

raw ermine
#

yeah I saw that

#

he's back boisss

edgy tinsel
next mesa
#

new york chengdu final

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justice beats fuel

loud yoke
#

According to surefour one of his teams said "he is not allowed to be depressed" so either Gladiators or Defiant have beaten Vancouver titans in being the worst org in owl

tropic herald
#

That sounds like a Defaint thing

loud yoke
#

yeah idk if gladiators would pull that

#

but its still possible he hasn't said which org did it

true hound
#

didn’t defiant also dunk half their roster last year

loud yoke
#

something like that

raw ermine
#

they did

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they got rid of all of them but 3

loud yoke
#

I'm more leading towards defiant just because he doesn't seem as happy on defiant as he was on GLA but then again no one knows for sure

feral zodiac
#

Dallas are decaying and the rascals won't even tell us the effect it'll have

karmic grotto
edgy tinsel
#

According to surefour one of his teams said "he is not allowed to be depressed" so either Gladiators or Defiant have beaten Vancouver titans in being the worst org in owl
@loud yoke when did he say this

tropic herald
#

It was on stream last night

viral veldt
#

Noobhunters New vud

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Vid

vale pond
#

which is a clip of his stream

edgy tinsel
#

30 seconds in

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We cant say its defiant or glads

#

he doesnt say its an owl team

vale pond
#

doesnt owl have regulations for players' health?

edgy tinsel
#

yes

#

he doesnt say owl

#

this video taking it out of context

tropic herald
#

I was there

#

It was definitely an owl team

edgy tinsel
#

Did he say it was an owl team

tropic herald
#

He was already talking about stuff he could say about the league but he’d have to be vague

edgy tinsel
#

If he didnt say it was an owl team, stop speculating

tropic herald
#

But that’s what he said

digital cloud
#

arguing that him not being able to say it specifically equates to speculating is stupid

tropic herald
#

I don’t know what more to say

#

He was talking about owl and that’s what he said

edgy tinsel
digital cloud
#

they accepted rawkus

#

for real

#

lul

tropic herald
#

Yea Rawkus to faze has been known for a while

edgy tinsel
#

4 owl players + marved

balmy wolf
#

I’m new to owl, is london spitfire a good team?

digital cloud
#

do they have any idea how bad his positioning is

tropic herald
#

Kinda

digital cloud
#

not too good rn

#

but not awful

#

sort of middle

balmy wolf
#

Oh who’s like the best player in spitfire rn lol

digital cloud
#

that I do not know

tropic herald
#

I don’t watch them though

#

I’ve heard Glister is good

digital cloud
#

I hear good things about Glister, schwi and Bernar

balmy wolf
#

Wait profit is not in spitfire anymore?

digital cloud
#

whole old team was changed

tropic herald
#

C9 like money

edgy tinsel
#

Oh who’s like the best player in spitfire rn lol
@balmy wolf
Best? Glister
Good? All players

feral zodiac
#

At least he's continuing on a good path

#

The man is insane

balmy wolf
#

So what are like the teams that are performing rlly bad this season

digital cloud
#

does rawkus have a vid?

tropic herald
#

The teams that are really bad this season or just rn?

digital cloud
#

I imagine it is a bit sad looking compared to babybay and corey

#

man

tropic herald
#

Some teams have been really bad but only some are bad rn

digital cloud
#

who is the awper of the two of them? probably corey

edgy tinsel
#

does rawkus have a vid?
@digital cloud they haven't announced him yet

digital cloud
#

ah

#

ok

balmy wolf
#

This season

edgy tinsel
#

What about this season

tropic herald
#

Well

#

Boston is the Royal bad

edgy tinsel
#

Royal is too nixe

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nice

#

Justice is improving but still bad

#

Titans is improving but still bad

#

Shockwave is cute and good tho soo 😅

tropic herald
#

Then you also have Justice Outlaws Fuel Titans Defiant Hunters who’ve been pretty bad

tulip shore
#

Titans used to be great didn't they

tropic herald
#

But Boston takes the cake

tulip shore
#

Never got to see that

opaque ginkgo
#

Before entire roster released lol

tulip shore
#

Wtf happened there

edgy tinsel
#

Luminosity cant treat their teams right

opaque ginkgo
#

I mean hunters are getting better ig

edgy tinsel
#

No

tropic herald
#

Owners of Titans are a bunch of American/Canadian guys who don’t know how to manage a team full of Koreans in America

edgy tinsel
#

They had a very specific meta

tulip shore
#

Hunters seem good to me but they play off meta every time

edgy tinsel
#

that allowed ameng to play ball

#

They arent good

#

tbh

digital cloud
#

ameng dunked on bumper at his peak

tulip shore
#

They are really good at that off meta strat they always play

digital cloud
#

so ameng is good

edgy tinsel
#

bumper was a mega feeder

digital cloud
#

yeah, but his style worked with his team

tropic herald
#

Ball Zarya is actually really good for Chengdu so they did good

vale pond
#

he was good though

tulip shore
#

But it's rarely a good start

#

Strat

tropic herald
#

Bumper fed because he knew his team could back him up

edgy tinsel
#

He wasn't really good tbf, the rest of his team were just cracked

tropic herald
#

He wouldn’t feed on other teams if he didn’t know that

balmy wolf
#

And what teams are on top of the league rn

edgy tinsel
#

Shock Dragons

#

Paris

#

Charge

tropic herald
#

Shanghai Shock Paris

edgy tinsel
#

Charge

tropic herald
#

Charge can and Fusion can be

edgy tinsel
#

Charge is

tropic herald
#

I mean

#

Ehhhhh

#

Sure

#

Once they get Pelican

edgy tinsel
#

they had 1 not so good meta

#

eileen is a nut

#

cr0ng is an mvp and roty candidate

tropic herald
edgy tinsel
#

whilst cheating

digital cloud
#

I mean the shot at the beginning was a little sus but otherwise

edgy tinsel
#

on the 2nd guy he snapped to his head through the box

clear crane
#

Who didn’t see this coming

#

Lol

digital cloud
#

which time?

#

looked to me like recoil

tulip shore
#

That clip demonstrates why valiant and Cs go look boring to me

#

Just sitting there pointing at a door

#

Sleep

digital cloud
#

I mean, it is a very technically challenging game

#

but yeah, cs sort of bores me rather quickly

edgy tinsel
#

So boring u get the game wrong? damn

#

or did u mean OWL valiant

#

if so .. agreed

raw ermine
edgy tinsel
#

🐢

silk frost
#

Rawkus back to Faze

humble rivet
#

That's valorant -_-

raw ermine
#

ik

#

they're old OW pros

tropic herald
#

We have known they are FaZe for a while

#

Just unconfirmed

next mesa
#

fusion might win

#

fuck it fusion vs shock finals

obtuse socket
#

Shock is on a different level to fusion

#

I just wish some teams lived up to their potential

#

Fusion can

#

But they are just not doing it

next mesa
#

I don't think so

#

as of right now

#

they are very close

#

fusion looked

#

so good

tropic herald
#

Bro Glads took fusion to 5

true hound
#

yh but like

#

Carpe hadnt been awakened

#

but then it was a gg

#

Fusion just kinda slow to adapt

#

but once they did it was a smoke

next mesa
#

like they said in platchat

#

their recent matches

#

against valiant and fuel

earnest leaf
#

last time shock played philly it was a brutal stomp

#

And shock nearly beat paris who was the best team for the meta in the summer showdown

#

It's weird to see philly beating shock really

true hound
#

I knew shock would win but not by such a massive margin

#

it was a massive stomp for the first 2 maps and by the time it was the third it was too late

#

Last map was very close but shock won out

next mesa
#

I think

#

carpe will go god mode

#

now more than ever

#

they need to win something

true hound
#

yh he’s probs mad after last loss

karmic grotto
karmic grotto
#

Dafran.... Where are you man

verbal gorge
#

i wonder if philly could mirror the comp paris used against them, genji/mccree, carpe’s mccree is nuts and id give eqo’s genji the edge against whoever shock plays on genji

edgy tinsel
#

anyone heard of this?

karmic grotto
#

no

edgy tinsel
#

its a full thread

sullen berry
#

Yes

next mesa
#

daamn

#

wtf

#

also yes I think carpe on the ashe/cree/widow is most dangerous

opaque ginkgo
#

But ans on the widow...

hot heart
#

What are the most likely mvp candidates

next mesa
#

how many are there

#

last year there was

raw ermine
#

5 finalists

next mesa
#

sinatraa janu (fuck cant spell name) twilight super guxue

#

ok 5

#

so let's see

#

carpe

hot heart
#

Carpe, Void, Viol2t (maybe?),

#

Uh

raw ermine
#

Hanbin

hot heart
#

Who else

#

Hanbin

raw ermine
#

Void

#

Crong

#

LeeJaegon

hot heart
#

Rookie of the year

next mesa
#

idk about void

#

if someone was to win it for dragons

#

It should be fleta

#

that's just me doe

raw ermine
#

yeah

next mesa
#

and also

raw ermine
#

Lip

#

for ROTY

next mesa
#

It's UNLIKELY that a rookie wins mvp

#

because

#

he will win roty instead

hot heart
#

True

raw ermine
#

Alarm for ROTY maybe

next mesa
#

there's so many good rookies

hot heart
#

Cr0ng could yoink it

next mesa
#

its insane

hot heart
#

Or lip

#

Or xzi

raw ermine
#

Striker for MVP?

#

Smurf maybe

hot heart
#

Nah

next mesa
#

striker?

hot heart
#

Smurf is a good shout

raw ermine
#

SFS are too good that none of them seem good lmao

next mesa
#

I don't think anyone would win it for shock

#

yes

#

if anyone would

#

I think it would be viol2t

#

I mean I think he's best bap by far

hot heart
#

Viol2ts bap

next mesa
#

Idk doe

hot heart
#

Is just

next mesa
#

He is dps bap

hot heart
#

True

#

But he doesn't just stop healing

#

The man does it all

next mesa
#

anyway if fusion has a good tournament run

hot heart
#

Tbh

next mesa
#

I think carpe's mvp case is very strong

hot heart
#

I think carpe will end up as mvp

raw ermine
#

got all the nuts stats

next mesa
#

just because he stands out so much in a top tier team

raw ermine
#

I doubt sparkle would win any of the 2 cause he start halfway through

hot heart
#

And lip as rookie of the year

next mesa
#

like maybe sharing spotlight with alarm a bit

raw ermine
#

next year maybe

next mesa
#

yeah

#

tbh sparkle lowkey has a case for mvp

#

just because they won

#

summer showdown

hot heart
#

Eh

next mesa
#

but that's not gonna happen

hot heart
#

See

next mesa
#

yeah because

#

the award is

hot heart
#

If he played more

next mesa
#

for all season

hot heart
#

Then yeah

next mesa
#

also genji meta

hot heart
#

I can't see him being mvp

next mesa
#

really favored them

hot heart
#

But

#

A candidate

#

Yes

next mesa
#

also if nyxl

#

makes a good run

#

in the countdown cup

#

Mano maybe GWspenderPaiSmug

hot heart
#

Mano actually deserves it

next mesa
#

he kinda got robbed last year ngl

#

for nomination

#

lowkey best and most consistent player on nyxl

#

for like 2 seasons

hot heart
#

Sinatraa really just came in and said ill have that

#

I think

#

He's the most consistent player in OWL

#

If carpe didnt have a shitty 2019

#

Him too

#

Nyxl are always almost top dogs

#

Then they fail

#

Miserably

next mesa
#

Not so much top dogs this season

#

lol

hot heart
#

No i meant like

#

They have so much potential

#

To really be at the top

#

This season

#

Has just been weird as hell

#

Idk

#

Carpe for mvp

#

And im happy

#

He really deserves it

#

He's so good

#

People kind of forgot about him because of the new rookies that came in

#

Like Lip

edgy tinsel
#

I dont think carpe should get it tbh

#

Just me tho

next mesa
#

y

#

I think he is the clear best player on a top team

tropic herald
#

I don’t believe MVP is clear cut yet

#

If Philly wins Countdown

#

Then I’d strongly consider Carpe

#

Bc you have players that have won titles on good teams too like Fleta Shu Smurf Moth Choi Viol2t Twilight

edgy tinsel
#

It'll be someone on dragons or shock

#

100%

tropic herald
#

If any team wins a tourney more than once they will probably have the MVP candidate

#

Or if Philly finally wins one

next mesa
#

but there are so many great players on the shock

#

It's hard to pinpoint 1 player

tropic herald
#

I’m going to go with Smurf or Viol2t from the Shock

echo quest
#

I think it should be Carpe

#

Because MVP literally means most valuable

#

Philly would be no where

#

Near as good without Carpe

hidden vault
#

I think Sparkle, it's possible

tulip shore
#

Sparkle would be a cringe choice

#

But I wouldn't be surprised by it

vagrant jacinth
#

I don't think so. He came in too late in the season.

tulip shore
#

Paris needed him to win to be fair but compared to some of the rest he was blessed by a very fortunate 2 week meta

vagrant jacinth
#

There's a lot of potential mvps though

#

Yeah, came in at the right time

tulip shore
#

Meanwhile some of these contenders have been toiling for weeks to give their team a leg up

hollow zodiac
#

I think Hanbin can be MVP or ROTY, he is very very good on all off-tank, he is clutch on so many action and help Paris so much. From his first matches to his last matches he stay at an insane level

viral veldt
#

Chipsas has more kills per 10 then sparkle😂

hidden vault
#

why would it be cringe lol

#

@tulip shore

echo quest
#

I think alarm

#

Should be roty

#

Him or LJG

#

Imo

hollow zodiac
#

So many ppl can be ROTY thats an hard choice imo

tulip shore
#

@hidden vault for reasons ms I just said, he benefitted from meta changes for a couple of weeks and has much hype around him for that, fair enough but other players have spent much longer carrying their teams against the odds

next mesa
#

there are rookies that have cases for mvp

#

but just like how jjanu and twilight were mvp candidates but they were also rookies

edgy tinsel
#

sp9rk1e doesnt deserve MVP and especially not ROTY

#

as it wouldnt be a full representation of the best player all year

forest raven
#

He's not even eligible for roty

edgy tinsel
#

ok good

#

he shouldnt be for mvp either

swift moth
#

super ROTY

forest raven
#

Agree

next mesa
#

yeah sparkle shouldnt win anything

#

im too lazy to type sp9rk1e idk how yall do it

hidden vault
#

@hidden vault for reasons ms I just said, he benefitted from meta changes for a couple of weeks and has much hype around him for that, fair enough but other players have spent much longer carrying their teams against the odds
Thank you for the explanation

#

super ROTY
Is he still rookie lmao

limber pine
#

Sparkle isn't even the my favorite for DPS roty

#

Leave, Yaki, or LIP would all be ahead of him IMO

earnest leaf
#

even ans tbh

true hound
#

roty?

#

i could see it

#

dude popped in from ladder and proceeded to be one of the best widows in the league

earnest leaf
#

but someone like alarm I think would deserve roty over ans

limber pine
#

I think alarm is almost a guarantee for roty

#

but i was talking specifically for DPS

true hound
#

post w/ all the rookies ^

#

Dps would be Yaki/ANS/Lip imo

#

for tank its def cr0ng/hanbin

clear crane
edgy tinsel
#

does rawkus have a vid?
@digital cloud there ya go ^

#

Its not even a montage

#

and the clips shown arent even that nice ...

next mesa
#

LEAVE?

#

bruh

#

Leave has been extremely underwhelming

#

only recently has he started picking things up

#

yeah I think cr0ng hanbin alarm

digital cloud
#

The video almost makes him not look bad

#

Almost

#

Corey can probably carry the team on his own though

next mesa
#

does rawkus not deserve

#

idk how he is in valorant

digital cloud
#

I don’t see him being good in Valorant with how trash he was in OWL

#

But perhaps the games are different enough

edgy tinsel
#

his positioning is really questionable

#

Corey can probably carry the team on his own though
@digital cloud cant solo carry in val

#
  • marved is very very good too
#

zacharee is okay ..

hollow zodiac
#

Yep i don't understand the choice of clips, there are less beautiful than other's clips. I think rawkus did so much better

digital cloud
#

In his clips?

#

What do you mean?

next mesa
#

@edgy tinsel didn't wardell carry tsm

edgy tinsel
#

when

#

vs sentinels he did

#

and they lost

hollow zodiac
#

I mean clips of rawkus are less beautiful than clips of Corey or Babybay. I'm absolutly not a pro of Valorant but imo i find that Rawkus' clips are not as spectacular and pretty as clips of Corey or babybay

next mesa
#

no he carried like

#

the whole team

#

not just in that particular match

edgy tinsel
#

no , everybody on tsm is very good and all puts in equal effort

next mesa
#

actually he did bad in that match

#

wardell

edgy tinsel
#

vs sentinels?

next mesa
#

yes

edgy tinsel
#

i hope ur joking

next mesa
#

o

#

they lost again 2 days ago

#

omegalul

edgy tinsel
#

same dah

#

day

tropic herald
#

FaZe has 4 Overwatch players

#

🧐

edgy tinsel
#

yes

hollow zodiac
#

Remember when ppl said that overwatch player can't aim and can't beacame pro on Valorant. Actually 6 player in Valorant and that probably not ending McCreeLUL

edgy tinsel
#

Sinatraa has some of the best aim in val ive ever saw ngl

viral veldt
#

I've never really watched valorant tbh

karmic grotto
#

Dafran...

true hound
#

lets grow dude

karmic grotto
hollow zodiac
#

Misconduit ????

#

someone know what he did ?

opaque ginkgo
#

Nope

hollow zodiac
#

Ok i saw

#

go below the tweet

#

said some women are whore

opaque ginkgo
#

Oh

edgy tinsel
#

@hollow zodiac @opaque ginkgo ^

opaque ginkgo
#

Oh

#

Oof

edgy tinsel
echo quest
#

An excuse to release him faster

#

If they released Harry over this they should have released taimou years ago

edgy tinsel
#

they did lmao

true hound
#

The last of envyus

#

Gg