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this new winston zarya comp is interesting no more bans and they still playing it
Ksp is so good
Death match
i remember sideshow talking mad shit about seoul for using the winston/zarya comp
bruh
On top of the castle
world star
1v1 me up top how about that
feedo is back

LUL
don't bully the boys
i really hope this is a 3 0 match
i dont want to watch this
you know what it could be good maybe
It will be a toilet bowl
I hope this goes to map 7
titans vs bos
There is another game
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/704020700574253189/739630329299468298/9tti13jjiim2wyo1c5z1_400x400.png
Me, watching titans vs boston
who?
free myunbong
I honestly don't even know who would lose this
oh welp
yeah its a yikes match
boston
Imma say boston as well
Funnyastro has won his last 21 regular-season maps. His last loss was May 10 against Dallas.
Overall, he's 51-9, for an .850 winning percentage. That's the best rate for anyone with more than 20 maps. Ans is also .850, in 20 maps (17-3).
i do hope its a 3 0 match
what a stat
Sado
its gonna be like a map 22 but i hope its a 3 0
More like bado
gottem
Sado played fine though
Titans vs uprising 
i think titans have good potential, if they keep the same players for next year they could be mid teir
gm stack vs gm stack
Are they doing the draws for the playoffs after the Boston vs Vancouver game?
theyre gonna tie on a control map somehow
First ever tie on control map pog
esp with that backline
Remeber back in March when a bunch of people were doing push ups
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I think titans have a low ceiling as well
I don't remember
in all honestly vancouver wins this i think
Prolly
3-2 is my guess
no i do think it will be a 3 1 not a 3 2
next year if they have the same roster i think itll be differnt
Toilet bowl is always unnecessarily long so imma say 3-2 lol
Titans is just Shockwave carrying
have any of u played hearthstone? is it fun?
i have not
yeah it is
but i might try it if these ads keep up ahah
Card game...
but the ads are better than the game
Is an 8 map game possible
I suppose
yes
Every mode except control is drawable
but it requires draws
Has it been done before
no
no
in order to get 8 maps u need the perfect escort map
it was almost with Hou
Not in bo5 format at least
like gibralta
wen u cap point a and the door is opening up. at that exact moment the enemy team needs to wipe the escort team
Dorado
and den u need that exact same thing to happen again
I guess it can technically go to 5 control maps
titans win this
Idk how many games that is
What if it's playoff games
every map after the 5th in a bo5 is control
With first to 4
Oh ok
that can prob go 10+
Paris did it
Map 10 is possible for bo7
When
well not same game but back to back 11 maps total
Oh yeah
12 maps actually
I mean in one game
den u peaked overwatch
colour hex is so bad
no need to play anymore
We aren't getting map 10 ever
he just doesnt hold up
halos glasses look so fucking big
Colourhex is good on his good heroes
Isn't that like widow and pharah
Even then I dont think his wifow is that good anymore
these pictures looks so fake
they are
like a highschool photoshop
Carcar's pic is straight from contenders with a titans uni haha
I didn't know colourhex had good heroes
ksaa's look legit
daltons looks fine ish
lul its loser picks
jerry vs jerry 2.0
Is loser pick a thing for toilet bowl
Neat I'm ready for 3-2 then
its probably for the countdown cup thing
like this is apart of the tourney already
this map suck if you dont win first point
also honestly i forgot dalton is ok on this team because of shockwave
told u titans win this
yeah i think everyone did
This is pretty sad
shockwave is a better rookie than jerry and dolton seems about even on genji as colorhex
didn't touch
We always say the difference between top 3 and the rest is embarrassing
So is Boston/Vancouver with the 4-11 pack
i just dont like colourhex i dont think hes too good
yeah they are trying to counter them
yeah lmao
LETS GO ECHO
lmfao colorhex
i wonder what would even be the best choice for the next map for them
hoo boy
carcar go brrrrrr
shockwave will be winning at range until colorhex can kill him because i doubt that jerry can.
he theoretically should be the one to. but in actuality colorhex will be the one to do it by flanking. granted he lives getting to the flank
especially if they want to run something like the mccree
well see
shockwave has bob
they got baited
ima b honest i stopped watching after they lost 1st point
Why does Boston keep playing chex on genji
do you think hell play a better hitscan

well at least it might be a 3 0
i wish i got to watch the rest of that map
but its bostons pick again, lets see if it means anything
Idk I feel like chex just blanks out sometimes mid game
Poor coaching doesn't help either
Just vibing with the respawn timer
" i like to see the circle bar over my hero when i respawn"
this might just be the same kind of thing from kings row
wtf
i mean 4 ults at least
Imma gall asleep why is boston just sitting there
Who tf calls for boston
Holy shit
That was terrible
I'm going to jump off my window
wtf is Boston doing
yo boston fans must be into bdsm n torture
When Bob does more for your team than 6 players
wow
poor Boston
People who suffer from low blood pressure should watch boston games
i thought boston was better than this
Boston players deserve to be freed
they’re not that shit on their own
They are all good
i know
boston needs to pull a titans and just replace all their players
probably @dark hedge
damn
they could replace the coach too
omg
look at this
how can you be a boston fan
NOTHING
Boston lacks the game sense so yeah coach problem is a big part of it

boston needs to pull a titans and just replace all their players
@dreamy cave keep jerry abd myunbong
and*
punk can stay too
I think punk is good as well
ye but id say go full korean
but who would even trade with boston tho like really
contenders teams idk
oh no thats so sad
Also i think punk would be good on titans if they ever wanna sub out ksaa due to ping etc
Just sign o2
o2 deserve better
whos o2?
just
Ksaa should be in na next season if titans keep
True
O2 is a korean contenders team
whos o2?
@dreamy cave o2 blast
Don’t let a good team rot under shitty coaching
best team in kr contenders?
idk if they still are best
They won season 1
He is main support now too
Holy shit
Boston are so bad
he’s so good
Liquidate the team
O2s roster
Titans is just Shockwave carrying
Boston havent lost a series were they draw a map
aye, decay was doing it for the glads. i dont wwanna hear it
No almost always lol without shockwave titans prolly lose
i disagree
apparently carcar is the play maker
yeah carcar was wild but he was playing brig
Agree to disagree but shockwave opens up the game a lot for rest of the team and sets the tempo of the game well
agree to disagree on what
Hes cute asf or carries titans
its the job of the dps to get those picks
Wtf carries titans obvsly
Good
Game is more than getting picks
carcar is shutting down the blades from colorhex and stopping their fights
No thats just chex
God Boston are actually terrible
but saying cute is subjective some ppl think chipsa is hot
Both enemy supports are on fire with no shields@half health and you do not kill them
How
who won VT vs Boston?
not boston
Titans
not boston
it was a 3 0
lmao
Boston lack so much teamwork and game sense can't believe we are at the end of season and they are this bad
I mean 4 new starter so more like first season playing together
Punk Jerry halo myunbong
Punk and halo came in alot later
Before halo it was swimmer and for punk it was Brussen and that guy
Still 4 new spots with no synergy either way no excuse now they been together long enough
Thats why i said that guy
Boston + Paedophiles
boston guy 2.0
name a better duo
Either way Boston hasn’t had a consistent starting lineup for the season
Boston coaching is so bad punk looks worse than before he was coached by them
^^^
Please liquidate Boston
Please liquidate humanity
free all the players
Is axxiom still on roster? Not officially released but not on OWL website
Just bring over the entire o2 team
No
inactive I think
Bring coaches too :P
Sign some o2 buddies for Myunbong
is huk still gm
Coaches players management
Idk im guessing fusions has been the in game leader and it hasn't worked out until now although most of it is coaching problem
HE HAS A VOICE
the dinkzer is going to practice his ass off
paintbrush pillow
banter
whats paintbrush doing lmao
talking shit lmao
saying ez win p much
defiant v glads and val vs outlaws are both good matches to watches
oh they’re doing the seedings rn
linkzr better beat the fuck out of KSP
I know Linkzr has it in him
aww kitty
lol Custa as though nothing is wrong
@vagrant jacinth honestly its silly they chose us
If you go to the very end of the video you can see the bracket for the first few matches, but finding the overall seeds is more of a pain
yeah I just wanna know the bracket
Here's hoping we beat them in anyways
I think from memory 1-4 was SFS, PHI, PAR, FLM but they don't publish a page to verify it easily so who the hell knows.
It’s on the liquidpedia page iirc
honestly, fuck this league and it's amateurish organisation at this point :/
why is hydration on tank?
i can see that
So guys
Babybay and Rawkus have been scrimming with FaZes valorant team
which would make it
Corey Zacharee Babybay Rawkus
And Marved
That’s stacked as hell
Wonder if they can stand up to Sinatraa and Sentinels
what happened to shock team house
paris and philly are in the same bracket so thats pretty interesting
for some reason the site says the 1st seed and 2nd seed are in the same bracket
which shouldn't be the case, 2nd seed is supposed to be the 4th seed in the bracket
Nothing is equally as bad as boston
Kraft owns Boston
whoever owns it
needs to fire the whole organization except for jerry and that one support that clutched
Given the whole human/child trafficking thing, I think an esports team is the least of his worries.
won season 1 and then before season 2 theyre like "whut we do now"
?
season 1? They had a stage 2 undefeated run in S1 but after that they went bleh
i havent been paying attention the league since xqc got banned tbh
but i just got back into it last month
@hot heart Robert Kraft was arrested for human trafficking and child prostitution.
are there even any Valorant tourneys yet?
I hear so much of everyone leaving to play Valorant yet have heard absolutely nothing of any tourneys or leagues actually operating.
valorant comp would be fucking huge right now if it wasnt for the coronavirus
tbh
same comp every map except for like kings row in the league rn is cool
kinda surprised seoul isnt like the best team in the world because they are literally in the hub of where the best overwatch players are born
ah i see
i mean like
they could easily get better coaches in south korea
also i figured out that the teams dont even have to live in the city they're based in
Yeah
the SF shock house is in los angeles when they're supposed to represent norcal
lmfao
yeah but even before then SF Shock house was in LA
i wonder where the eternal are
and spitfire
Somewhere in america
since i cant imagine a bunch of koreans which is basically eternal and spitfire living in london and paris
shanghai and hangzhou are mostly korean
It matters what the team represents
?
san francisco is in northern california
los angeles is in southern california
san francisco shock house is in los angeles
Did you not see me say they might have got a team house in san Francisco
No
my bad
interesting how excelsior is in the asian league
wonder where they are
busan excelsior 😳
And all NA teams are in America
ah
so what happens when spitfire and eternal go back to europe
oh yeah they travel
nvm
forgot about LAN
Ye
whats the difference between the league and the contenders
OWL is the best of the best
Tier 1
Contenders is people that are trying to get into the league
Tier 2
Basically
The highest level of play is OWL
Contenders is amateur teams who entered into open division, won in OD and got their way into contenders. It's a relegation based system. OWL is a franchise based system, generally with the best players in the world and run by proper organisations with clear policies etc.
Philly Fusion is owned by a subsidiary of Comcast for example
@hidden crow
Contenders would have had more support if it had been a contractual requirement for OWL franchises to own and operate a Contenders team.
Yes
This YouTube deal...
It's not possible to earn tokens through YouTube
And still not possible to make vods
Nor having command center
How did Vancouver vs boston end
@upper niche the next ignition series is next week
Faze hosting
And faze also competing
Along with sentinels
Corey vs Sinatraa potentially if faze get far enough
I do feel that having drops in contenders would help
Even though if it would be a lesser rate then owl
It's still a win
it'll die off like OWL will.
Since when have pro leagues survived without the premier team supporting the development series?
also lol, Frogger joins Contenders Aus, nearly triples the number of viewers it gets lol
Wonder if they can stand up to Sinatraa and Sentinels
@echo quest bit late but no
nobody in na rn can beat sen
I wish Birdring was on a better team 😔
@edgy tinsel I mean Zombs said it himself other teams are good enough to beat Sen and it depends who shows up on the day. And they literally have been pushed to the brink by genG,Cloud9 and Immortals
They always clutch up
Tho
sentinels Map play is the best in Na and out of the teams probably have the most fire power too
But it’s close
dafran 
Pepehands
This Guy once leaked Lr1s to Atlanta few days ago.
Nero -> La gladiators Neptuno -> Paris Eternal Pelican(OWCK O2 Blast) -> Guangzhou Charge
Contenders Leak
Vigilante(Former WGS) -> Triumph(Na contenders team)

That lineup would be stacked as hell
Isn't charge already stacked
PELICAN
The charge need to be even more stacked to compete with top 4
You know, all we heard from both players is that:
I. Nero was not expected to return until he is needed. My gut reaction was that Nero would have come back now in time for the Countdown Cup. I doubt they'll need to depend on him being there for that.
II. Neptuno had to "return home to restock on cleaning cloths while also renewing his visa" in time for the playoffs
III. It wasn't made very clear, but on the plat chat interview with Sideshow the weekend before Summer Showdown, it was a tedious process going back and forth to renew their visa during the regular season once already. Also costing the org more to fly them to their home country while the majority of the players are much closer to their home cities.
IV. So much easier for Charge to go all Korean for stability, now that they've locked their position into top 6 season standings
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The NeXT Summer Tournament is organised by NetEase Games and will feature the best of China and Korea facing off in ...
They played 4 maps like the old school OWL format - with timestamps
0:12:10
GZC v SHD 
1:39:23 CC v T1W
3:17:50 Runaway v IO
FLG vs LTP
5:44:02 Blast vs BLG
I'm trying to scrub through the highlights of the title match since I missed it
But it's 3am
Not surprised we had badass looking Cr0ng running pharah and AVA (dding?) on Tracer
Got my sights set on Charge contenders players duking it out in the losers bracket. IO winning would be a rematch of the China group stage if runaway whoops CC
What are Birdring's signature heroes
Tracer, Widow, mccree... Non dps Zarya
Nero -> La gladiators
https://youtu.be/w6584aU3d5k
@karmic grotto found the connection 1:02:00
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Bischu's open DMs on twitter really do be helpful if you're looking to expand your OWL circles
Tracer, Widow, mccree... Non dps Zarya
@sullen berry this HURT me
as a long time ldn fan
Nero to LAG seems unlikely to me
Wouldn’t Valiant want him more
Although Pelican to charge makes a lot of sense and seems likely
As well as Neptuno to Paris
Idk why paris would need neptuno
Nuh uh
I have phily winning it just for the story lines
Philly ain't gonna win shit
I can see them beating paris this time
Final is obviously fuel vs outlaw
Banking on fuel binning it as per usual
I also picked valiant over them
Defiant are 100% gonna reverse sweep glads
Just watch
We will fuck it up somehow
If shock face philly in the finals they will lose
Calling it now

Would have never happened if Taimou didn’t have diarrhea
Fuel coaching will always be trash
@true hound ans would beat linkzr any day
linkzr absolutely nuts
but ans is ans
his consistency is inhumane
shh
that’s why I love linkzr
With ANS and KSP and shit you always know they’re gonna be good
End of season he's getting released
Sauce
We have granted the request of Gui-un "Decay" Jang to release him from his contract prior to the end of the 2020 OWL season. Our management is focused on evaluating changes and building a cohesive team that will be positioned for future success.
probably
Not sure idk just saw on chipsas stream
bruh that’s wack af
tweet says it was his request
the rumor is that he's going to Valorant
are we getting another effect?
We know we have to work hard to get our team playoff ready so let's talk about this. Decay had a few months left on his contract, but refused to work with our staff. When a player refuses to practice, it is time for us to move on and give our players their best shot. https://...
Decay was just like nope
I was bouta post that😤
tbf
if I’d be him
I’d do the seem
playing so well yet standing no chance due to the rest of your team
it was pretty obvious when Decay didn't play this week
heartbreaking
that he was likely gone
Onjgod
ah
also, the roster change deadline was last week
so he can't play for another team this season anyway
hope he doesn’t move to valorant
he can get picked up pretty easily by a lot of better teams prolly
you can see yourself out
I'll leave
Good
Man Dallas love having Star dps players that they just make unhappy
Also congrats Decay on a successful heist of a lot of money
So now Oge, Effect, Rascal, and decay have all dipped from dallas
Looks like Dallas are still fucking up
And hastro is shit talking him on the way out
Anyways Decay got the bag and he’s out
Every player that could be construed as a carry on Dallas has fucked off from the team
Great team culture there
if its just one player it makes sense
Decay is obviously a great player, but he didn't fit into our team and didn't want to cooperate with the goals of our staff. We just can't keep someone like that around. We wish him the best and hope he can find a place where his talent fits.
but its been Effect, OGE, Rascal, and now Decay
Isn’t this nearly word for word when they released OGE
What an atrocious org
is the signing period over?
Doha gonna leave season end

Dallas dps are kinda pog
I feel for Doha and oni
Drop the org
drop aero?
this is stemming from Hastro
ngl they just need better coaching staff
no way
Dallas have dropped rascal, effect, oge, and decay and not aero
Their players aren't even that bad at this point
they will never do that
this is clearly an entire front office issue not just the coach
And same with note
Decay can go to valorant or to anothe team dude slaps pros in valorant and probably is the most talented player in OWL
Imo
ppl ripped on Rascal while on Dallas and look where he is now
And Crimzo and Paintbruhs
The tanks and supports aren’t bad on Dallas
They could also be better
Profit overrated
Multiple main tanks too
HOLD ON A FUCKING SECOND
Decay can go anywhere where he wants to
AM I HIGH OR DID DECAY JUST GET RELEASED FROM THE FUEL
HE FUCKING DID
BRO WHAT
Also Myunbong probably a free agent soon
decay rlly said "fuck the coaching" and got fired 😔
Atlanta should pick up Myungbong
Why
decay back to gladiators 🙏
Heist of the century from decay
poggggg
Decay will get a Fatass
poggop
they probably did, poor guy
Coaches just own the club don't they
Their money came from some rich CEO
no way the coaches had 20m to throw for a spot in OWL
yh
I’m fairly certain most of the bottom half of OWL have really bad orgs
titans omegalul
I mean, Boston, Dallas, and Titans are the only ones that I can think of where the players hate the org
correct me if I'm wrong
org??? sorry
the rest just don
Justice and Outlaws have bad orgs too
hmm
Outlaws players seem happy though
org??
Outlaws was more of just Flame having too much shit thrown at him
organization
decay gone LOL
Outlaws org still not amazing
fuel is so fucked
not sure about Washington
Yh but I think outluls are fine for now
Also Justice org shit
well, they may not get their teams to win, but Outlaws players seem happy more or less
Justice wanted Stratus to come back and play for them and when he said no they cut his content creation thing
oh yeah they didn’t have a translator last year too I think
Justice also did not ever invest in a translator until late season
So you basically had Ark
Trying his best
y'all ever think OWL could benefit from a draft
No
All the bad teams aren’t bad because of players
coaching plays a huge part
draft is kinda weird
and organization culture
They are bad for either coaching or the org doesn’t accommodate for the multinational teams
@hastr0 >korean talent carries Dallas to higher tier
randomly disappears
coaches accuse korean talent of "not working with team"
find out later korean talent was trying to make the team actually work >korean player proves their point on another team
sounds about dallas.
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I mean, I'm not saying it definitely would make a difference, but you can't tell me Roar is comparable to like, Mano
how many Manos are there
Also this is a cuck move for dallas , allowing him to go just after transfer window closed
decay deserves better, shame
The entire dallas org is shit, up to Hastro
ok thats what i thought
Teams that could’ve benefited from Decay: Outlaws, Boston, Justice, Titans, Seoul... etc this list got a lot longer than I thought
We have our sights set on winning championships. Always have and have been very successful in our history in Overwatch. Tough decisions have to be made sometimes and this was certainly one. Staying positive and looking forward to correcting our course
this is such cap
This won’t hurt decay at all unless there’s something we don’t know about him
@echo quest wrong. decay cant join another owl team
He’s just going to go somewhere else and make bank somewhere else
for this season
yes
dallas stonks 📉
fuel did it at this time on purpose
@edgy tinsel he still just got released on one of the fattest contracts so it’s not like he’s doing bad
Yes but alot of the pros actually want to play rather than just get the money
the fact he forfeited the rest of his giant contract says something
I bet any tendies team would pick him up for the time being
coulda pulled the akm/unkoe route and bench himself collecting money
wasnt it 300k for glads
sooo the buyout + im sure the contract wouldve been larger
He can just stay in NA or go back to Korea tbh
Decay really just pulled a heist lol
thats what a leaked journalist says
who
I don’t think I’d be surprised either way
What was he saying?
Wait who else left for valorant
Zach
Trill probably gonna play for Envy
AKM and Unkoe only stream Valorant
Decay is pretty good at the valorant thing too
Trill probably gonna play for Envy
@tropic herald envy have a roster
Hey @DecayOW, I think you'd be better positioned for future success in an environment full of hard working winners. I know talks with Fusion fell through at the last second this past off-season, but let's talk again in a couple months. I heard you and @carpe_ow are friends :)...
he was like my favorite player even before overwatch league existed
oh shit
decay and carpe on fusion
isnt that kind of redundant
ig if they need tracer
Decay and Carpe would absolutely destroy
No more deciding whether Carpe should play the Tracer or Widow
Just do rock paper scissor between him and Decay
yea
nah
decay a better tracer than carpe
who else plays flex dps on fusion
eqo is their genji
who does heesu and ivy play
Thats not Aero
he prob has some dirt on Hastro
aero,,, dont be shy,,, stop being a coach
Ivy is their Mei and now Genji
Heesu also their best Sombra
well in their recent play Ivy has looked great on Genji
Eqo looked completely outmatched against Glads
which is why they brought in Heesu Sombra and reverse swept
how do i finda main im lvl 125 and i havent found one 😦
well more than one is waht i mean
im confused
why os aving a main bad?
u should focus on 2-3 heroes in each role
whatever u find the most fun
because
overwatch is a game about adapting
u can't main pharah and play her into double hitscan for example
Still collecting my thoughts about being released, I will make a statement later this week for anyone interested. This was not my decision and I plan to return to the League in full force.
Thank you all for your support!
wow
LOL
Burn that organization down
lols my in game name is HYPER
Dallas trying really hard not to fire Aero
Wtf?
aero is so shit
yeah
Look at when it was posted
oh lol
ya
Discord wasn't even out then lmao
1970
I don't think so
it happens to me all the time
maybe ur shit is fucked
damn notthyperr out here in the year 1970
time travel
it was discord's first alpha on the nintendo 64
time travelers predicted an electronic sports league 50 years later
@OGE_ow We made this change as soon as he requested it. Had nothing to do with us wanting to prevent him from joining another team. You know I would never do that to someone on purpose.

OGE didn't seem to agree with that









