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i think they are tied in map diff now
but florida beat them 2 weeks ago so they have the tiebrekaer
ah
top 4 = first round bye
im sad Paris threw a map yesterday and lost the first seed
saucy is still in?
1st seed basically had it easy to finals while 2nd seed has to likely go through Philly

actually by being 5th doesnt reign get out of playing the shock?
dogman still worse
oh i just remembered this next week is 2x token week i believe
Downgrade in sense of integrating and gaining synergy
not necessarily
So dallas won a map
Like subbing 2 new players, so team work spirit is not what it used to be. Let's say less coordinated
Okay then
Edison widow
OW 2
I hope
They change the heroes profiles
They're outdated and not in sync with other profiles
zoning blade
amazing
True
super good blad
Zoning blade
blade
the fuck just die Doha
?
lmao
wtf
the one where they die
bruh
the tick
wtF???????????
dang
im here late
ok a tick lul
but looks like i had nothing to wory about
chat is spamming c9
i would laugh if atl loses cause of that tick
4 kills im calling it
3 kills
what 2 '
?????
2
feedison
2?
omg
that tick was weird
Gamsu got an assist
im not a fan of the dallas but sti;;
they were so afraid to lose the fight they sacrificed the tick


oop
how are you making these so quick


score?
score
2-1
Omg 
gg atl lose
reign subbed in last map and lost numbani 4-3
uhhh.........
Doha just dominating them
dohas back must hurt
gg bois
LUL
gg
gg
Whats next match?
The toilet bowl
Glass mayhem
ew glads vs florida next
if glads win 
Mayhem gonna assert dominance
If glads win
Im gonna stop watching OWL till the toilet bowl
I'd laugh
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Dallasmade a good pickup
how was Lr1s in this match??? i missed it
Hope they use it
Yeah
Lr1s was ok
He was good on glads
Lr1s on Ping was alright
Might do something on OWL
oh wait
fuel gave oge away for decay??
mayhem need a 3-1
Dallas omegalul
inb4 upset
nope
Onigod doha oge note
OGE wanted to play with Spaces and Decay wanted a Korean dps to play with
look at glads
Like a bottom team
So the players got what they wanted
I mean true
these NA coaches man. Dpei and Aero
i cant wait to see what Outlaws are bring to the team since 2 left this year technically 3 because of jake
I feel like aero doesnt give him control
decay was on glads right???
yeah
I can totally see Yong pitching Aero ideas and Aero going "nah fuck that"
Yeah
Glads should be a top tier team with their lineup
they just dont have the pla making material at all without him
And really doesnt even deserve a job in contenders at this point
on paper at least
when i look up aero overwatch one of the first thing to pop up is the coach that saved the fuel
lul
You need a really really really solid MT if u wanna be top tier
Too bad theres only like 10 of those
lmao
so ig they wanted oge for whinston zarya comp.. but compared to double shield idk if that comp is superior
saucy literally plays genji like a fast rein
baiting out cooldowns, slashes into groups of tanks, ultra aggro

Probably Sigma
Wow both teams are not amazing at this map
Bqb
Nice
God damn
Please get off ball Zarya
against double shield too
They scrimmed against it
It’s not even that the comp is bad it’s just Gladiators playing bad
if byrem went brig it would shit their comp
but they use window
GARGOYLE
GARGOYLE
LOLLLL
YOU MONSTER
mines didnt get shit
OGE!!!!
What is happening
i mean control isnt a good way to see if a team is good or not
where's rein lul
wow
double ball boop
that was a good call by oge
hugeeeeee
Have faith in glads
You can play this dive comp against double shield as long as you know how to single out targets
this comp should have have worked
super genji 2.0
How was Mirror even allowed that flank
Do you guys realize, we see Junk play time
he's gotten fairly consistent play time
that no audio bother me
If glads win this
Waiting for Soldier 76 to be played
Everything being pink in white and translucent hurts
control is a 50 50 for teams to win it
I can see them going on a run in the countdown cup
its not a good reference for the rest of the match
Gargoyle just too good at sigma
i think crong is number 1 right
Gave me choihyobin vibes
Idk who one is
Idk havent seen much of GZ
crong was like the 3rd dps for charge in the last torny
Void Choi Cr0ng HanBin Gargoyle are who I think of
I’d say it’s Void or Cr0ng both are absolutely insane
BQB has tire and he’s in your backline
Ok
NO ONE HELPED GARGOYAL
Mayhem you can’t be doing this
gr
if LA are lucky enough to get anubis. this could go to game 5
What did I say?
atlanta are 5 heads 

knowing that mayhem will throw
so they throw a map

lmao OWL has like sad music over the replays
atlanta only has 2 rivals. mayhem and toronto
Hmm
You should speak positive about what you want to happen. Being negative won't get you anywhere
the chasing
Imagine getting full held on rialto
Why do i see them c9ing
FUCKING FAT FLUX
no brig pick either
Finally, switching Widowmaker
gargoyle keeps getting nasty angles
Gargoyle for potm
havana is open enough where zen is actually better then brig
I wanna see his stats
Oh holy shit
Birdring almost killed him
Glads got
Boomed
Oh
I disagree. Mayhem is just better in the mirror
In my opinion, they should play their strengths
okay
😮
THAT WAS SO CLEEEAAAN
florida have 6 ults now
Y A K I
thats so unfair
Gg
gg
low jaws wanted to swear
Actually just
bruh
Dominated them
whats the next map
jesus christ
chat spamming c9 smh
C9 
C9
it seems gladaitors do not want to play dive off koth even with florida off zen
off brig*
give rein charge reset
Imagine if they did that in 2019
Bumper would be having a great year
Thats for sure
Would be in your backlines 24/7
next week
it will be double tokens for the countdown cup
per hour
when is kevster gonna send in a pic
Never
Hey how do I find a team
now they have bob
i mean glads only had to win 2 maps but what if they win the whole thing

Nice
Nice
Nice
Zen said fuck off padawan
Just watched Byrem slap the shit out of whoever was on Genji
It loooks like Florida really want to run Zen Bap
And the maps they are getting for that are good Zen maps
I find it hard to believe they will stay on zen next map
Then again they ran zen on Lijiang
Well OGE and Space just got deleted
Anyone else having the stream shit it’s pants
nah, mine's good
Holy fuck OGE is hyper feeding
I lagged a bit during Numbani but I'm ok so far
Florida is gifting Atl the seed
Birdring?
i hope its not a quadruple ot again
wow
mayhem is like the most inconsistent team it seems like sometimes
omg its gonna be a quad OT
im making a joke because of yesterdays match
its a tank/ash difference their making more space for bqb or yaki to get a pick
glads got their shields up now
Glads used rally and bob when they were up 1 player on 2cp defense....
and we go agane
23483824cp
bruh what?
Drawable 
let's keep it going
oooooh close map
2cp be like
43212 cp
brrrrrrr
birdring tp pog
lol ye
tp to point Pog
i cant wait to see how new 2 cp looks like in leauge
wow
omg
Sym
florida are choking hard
what
lol
SO
omg
BASTION LETS GO
bastion pog
WINNABLE
Nothing you can do when enemy has Symmetra
finally a bastion in a OWL match
WOW
10000 IQ RAT
????????!
BRUH
How
fat brain bqb
wait
Why must gladiators do that
bastion?
I seee why
BASTION BASTION BASTIONNN
But no
Sandbagging
BASTION AND JUNK
dang that ult charge
for the love of god play smart
Draw moment
gg
Bqb aim LUL
lol
BRUH
5CP draw ?
Gg
PLEASE
Fucking oge
gg
not a draw
Mei is so garbage
wow
not bad
OGE SMOOTH
gg
fuck me
ye
they had to do the fucking bastion
im gonna be mad about that for a few days
Mei is just so bad lol
ATL decided to throw that one map
whos in the top 4
cost them a top 4 seed
right now mayhem is 3rd
Mei = wall off Orisa, she presses shift, bap zen destroys wall in half a second
Unless Philly beefs hard
but Philly will surely take it
oh we're not counting apac
ah nvm
As long as Philly don’t lose they have it
only way mayhem goes up to 3rd is if philly loses 0-3
Who are philly against
Val
lol
That zen clutch tho
If valiant somehow
Just do something
Val are gonna get rolled hard
Then maybe it'll be closer
Valiant should get curb stomped
But they arent going to win
I see no world where Valiant even take a map
Maybe take a map if philly drop their spaghetti
Yo mayhem won pog
Pog
The fact that Houston had to gift them a win of all teams
Isnt san fran like the best or summin
yea they monsters
carpeee
Glads for fucks sake
Can you not give me hope
That you're not actually the worst team in the league
Carpe
fucking Carpe
Kill him first
if he's still alive theres a 50% chance ur gonna lose the fight
nerf Carpe
No fight is safe as long as Carpe is alive
Ok KSF kinda nasty
Carpe is the best clutch player
One of them
man just finds a way to kill 20 people even though they’re down
fusion vs valiant?
ye
ez 3-0 dawg
Carpe fucking hell
wtf.....
shax gets fucking schooled
deleted
Carpe is in the matrix
carpe in matrix = best player in the league
ok ivy
nice fuckin blade
I mean
ot
nvm
Man Fusion backline too good at peeling blade
i think the casters are delayed
yeah a bit
same for me
One thing I always wondered, do the OWL players see the game with the fucky colors or is it just the people spectating?
They don't
Just spectators
They see it as normal ow
Alright I thought so
wat is this
Because they don't want to deal with possible skin advantages
It’s basically a fancy colorblind mode that the observers use
Slambulance Lite
It would be so weird seeing a zarya with a blue bubble while playing the game
Ewwww mei
Shax lmao
yeah I mean mei is only good on this busan map
Jesus....
Damn rolled
i missed the first part of this map
Valiant oh no 
Ksf blades 
KSF got 2 kills with legs 
Went from being a top 2 team
Horizontal legs too good
To absolutely inting
i wasnt expecting that much from val

Super
Fleta is up there
happy
Possibly smurf
Cashew delisi
nah
Viol2t 
but at this point its Carpe's to lose
fleta would make sense
fleta ain't up there because
Lip
Choi
he also has lip and fearless
Gargoyle's sig was kinda clean earlier but I dont really watch much OWL so idk lol
on fusions
Viol2t prob screwed himself out of the running
Wait lip is a rookie he probably wouldn't
lul
carpe stands out the most
Tmobile aint gonna have a toxic mvp
fleta, viol2t, smurf, alarm evend
if choi is up there then crongs is too
along with alarm
A lot of people could get roty
Cr0ng
a lot of people could
Void 
Lip is a rookie right?
muma for mvp
But I don't think mvp is set and done for carpe
void isnt up there
MVP and ROTY actually feel competitive this year
Oh wait chipSa how could we forget
remember, philly has spent most of their season farming shit tier teams lol
that’s true
Fearless I'd put up there for mvp
So it kinda lets someone like carpe shine
I think when you stand out in a top tier team
hm
I want Philly to win something before Carpe is my mvp
you have a chance for mvp
shockwave for ROTY?
Pogwave
not sparkle either
i dont want sparkle either
Fielder is rookie
because they joined in late
feilder is a rookie yeah
Sparkle could be rookie but idk
Fielder maybe
When the award is for the whole season
ROTY is a super tight race
sparkle had a shot if it was the whole year
it has to be someone since week 1
so prob alarm
hm
if paris wins the cup then sure but sparkle not
HanBin for roty
no
ans
At least from Lwris
Trust the sandwich
o I forgot hanbin
Paris
could be both ROTY and MVP
Sandwich pog
They should have a most improved award
xzi is a rookie aswell I think
Sado for most improved
Oh yeah
If xzi was there for the full season
Good shout for xzi
Craig of Craig's Corner knows best
a reward for doing better than the old you
Roar kapp
Ngl fearless needs his own award
xzi did miss out a good chunk of the season
maybe
idk
He def has a chance
ANS is nutty
imo yes
since he's on the shock
When you go from not a really impressive backround
ANS good but I don’t know if he’s frontrunning roty
team performance plays a big part
To standing out on the best team on the league
just like in most sports
That is saying something
i wish they updated the owl website to show the stats they have on every player after a days matches
mvp is usually the best player on the best team
And being able to contest top tier hitscans in the league most of the time
or one of the best teams
ANS was in contenders for like a short bit and went back to widow one tricking in ladder
I think
I’m pretty sure he’s rank 1 rn
ANS used to be known as the top widow I think
Okay but was Sinatraa the best player on Shock it was he just the most valuable
They are different things
Between him and Happy
Heesu is playing 4D chess
yeah ANS was always a well known widow streamer in KR
he just never went pro for a good amount of time
He was pro super early on
Last years mvp award was weird
They only took stage 1 and 2 into consideration
They had the results by stage 4
True it was dumb
yeah I mean sinatraa did deserve it right
nutty zarya
If we wanted to go all 4 stages it Shuda been jjanu or twilight. Super and Sinatraa were benched all of stage 4
I mean Sinatraa deserved it
Super 
But Jjanu and Twilight were cracked
stage 4 meta started out as orisa dva right?
And Guxue
in most sports most valuable player just means the best player on the best team
And amaño
Cashew delisi 
Mano
i would have said rascal for last year
And also sinatraa came out in the playoffs and fucking pounded on doom
Orisa dva then double shield I think
It was Orisa Dva/Hog
Depended on map
pulled pork died out
rascal last year was in more than sinatra was. i would argue him over sinatra for mvp
Hmm
Hog was almost exclusively attack too
I’m pretty sure Sinatraa was guranteed it by stage 2
When are we going to be able to vote for candidates
So I think carpe has this locked up this year
Idk
I want smurf to win it
like with shock and dragons

i mean
their whole lineup is stacked
Or fearless
hes a contender
not saying
imo mvp will either be on paris/shd/shock
LIP for Roty
that fusions isn't stacked
carpe is a contender fr mvp
I don’t think fan vote matters too much
100% not because I want a main tank mvp skin
but carpe is like the obvious best player
I love smurf but an orisa player for MVP puts a bad taste in my mouth
Fan vote matters but not a whole lot
but he’s so good
I want a rein mvp skin
If so Guxue prob wuda rolled the competition last year
Wdym
I feel like rein will get all stars
Smurf is a winston main
can talk about the fact that oge ruins gladiators games
It’s probably Rein Dva all Star skins
I hope
omg i just got back and 5 mins on the clock for third point
Miro winston skin plz
gimme uhh miro winston skin and Taimou hog skin
i also want a rein mvp skin. but i dont want it to go to someone whos going to make it ANOTHER whinston skin cuz LAVs was a ass skin
ez
4 09 lul
Okay Valiant are dead
3-0 fusion
Wrap it up fusion 
nah, it wasnt a map record, maybe for 3rd or 4th fastest but not 1st
Valiant are so bad
no i figured it was gonna be a 3 0 but i thought it was gonna be closer
dreamer is so bad🤦
wait fury didnt die there what
who is eqo XD
One of the best genjis in the league
^^^
He's cracked out
yeah eqo is super good
Just watch fusion vs eternal rialto
season 1 eqo was great to watch
it was a joke
eqo debut match on hanamura
lol
that shit was beautiful
i figured becaise of the XD
what do you think about oge
Cloudy but not on steroids and with smaller brain
fusions just have too many good players so they have a good lineup on the bench
a team of fusion and shock bench players would prob be the 4th best team of NA lol
this is just sad to watch. im gonna walk away n get cookies
this is great
honestly legacy true
LMFAO
what
hacked and still get a 3k
LUL
yeah, they're stacked
Holy shit I didnt even know zarya could even make that jump
ALL HE DID WAS WALK INTO THEM WITH NO DASH
Disgusting
BACK UP 3 HEAD
its pretty sad to see valiant a shell of their S1 self
At least it's not as bad as Boston's fall
Wait guys I know the prophecy
Get absolutely smoked by Shock right before the tourney
Start as a low seed
Get hot
Paris did it
You have a point
Vancouver to win
Outlaws win the Countdown Cup
Nah Vancouver
genius
Quote me on this when Outlaws win the Countdown Cup
Vancouver can realistically only go up haha
how the valiant manages to be in 10/8 while even my grandmother plays better than dreamer
they gonna have that fastest lost in a series record for prob forever
unless they change the rules where its like first to 2 wins
Just wait for shock to play their strongest possible team against boston
i mean i want the outlaws to win the cup but its very unlikly
I want an underdog story again
even den shock need to playu defense first on hybrid and 2cp
Just to make everyone flip
and i think loser team gets to pick whether they attack or defend first
and its not like outlaws did bad against the shock
but it wasnt there best team either
their
Paris didn't do bad either lol
And they still got smoked
Then they rolled into the tournament guns blazing
True
i dont think val could have changed the comps to stop them
Deez nuts
dietz nuts
hog
Rewatching Houston v Boston to feel something
the original one?
Yes
lets wait for little 3/0
Is the audio delayed?




