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carpe is the better ash tho
Jerry is untouchable
and jerry was nice when he came out but cooled off alot
also how's ans' sombra
@next mesa he got 60% in 2 mins on Gibraltar then swapped
carpe is the better ash tho
@dreamy cave also the better tracer
so
what map
shockwave was cool when he started but now idk what to say
i only saw the attaxk
shockwave was cool when he started but now idk what to say
@dreamy cave hes still really good
oh yeah shockwave good
okay so look, hear me out
its not like they are playing bad its just they are getting out classed in certain matchups
nobody would beat ans if it was a straight 1v1
I disagree
part of why ans is so dominant is because of shock
chipsa would 🙂
actually it plays a huge part
YEP
shock as a team is so dominant most of the time ans is not pressured and therefore can take his time
Actually
happy and godsby could do it
Xzi held his own against him
the shock work so well as a team that even worse players can find value
Not on widow
see super
But on ashe/mccree
I wonder if paris deliberately wanted the 2nd seed
how close has the match been
Outluls have put up a decent fight
the 2nd map was the closet
@true hound no
But the shcock have super genji
super has almost 5 times the playtime on dps as chipsa now lol
"we need u to look into the camera and give us your best ""play heartstone now""
budget xqc lmao

man this whole thing has been casters roasting eachother

well see the super monkey
oop choi

bc he's tired
I keep on thinking sideshow is an egg

super's flexing to tank now
can we get moth monkey
the fuck
he said fk D:
@keen warren fk
why do shock have a dps on tank
fined and banned
im mean nice
inspirational
whats the fastest time on this map?
they wont break it
SUPER
not this time ast least
Probably the one from the vancouver shock game earlier
choi killed jecse while running away
thats so mean
this match is disgusting
ans on the perma flank
omg
oh no
genji is the meta
retire
that's really really not gonna happen
gg
i need to go back n watch so much
the first match of the day, and the first match of apac
i dont think im gonna watch any of the apac match except the finals
why
time
oh yeah
any matches after this?
no
another one leaves the leauge
i need to go back and rewatch this match as well cuz i slept throguh it
looks like it was good
im gonna stop calling dolton jerry 2.0 because they really dont play the same heros anymore
super playing genji is not a meme pick. he literally plays a main tank genji, taking space and position, while smurf plays as a dps winston, diving deep into the backline to get picks because super can’t. shock are just the better team

Dropping a map to justice pepelaugh
Maybe Justice are actually... Like... Good
Hmm
Justice are definitely the top of the bottom rn
Maybe they are just getting good
3-0d by the Shock, almost beat Valiant but hard threw the end, got upset by the Justice, c9ing against the Fuel when they killed the enemy Sigma
Justice are for sure improving
Sad days for houston
Like taking a map off of Paris and then playing kinda close the rest of the series is a win in my book for Justice
Shock with #1 seed gets basically a free ride to countdown cup finals
Shock should be in finals
did shock get the #1 seed?
Unless they hit a hot team again
Ye
Shock have #1
Same record as paris but Shock are #1 overall
The tiebreaker is past matchups
And other than one loss Shock have beaten Paris every time iirc
last two times they have faced were a 3-2 loss for shock and a 3-0 win for shock
The one loss was in summer showdown so it doesn't even count for season standings
True, the one loss doesn’t even count too
And Philly has one more game
I’m giving to assume Philly Florida and Atlanta all win their games too

So really we just looking to see if Florida or Atlanta drop maps
Toronto better hope gladiators don’t win
i-is that a coin toss i see
Philly vs valiant hmm
probs philly
O
^
Philly should curb stomp Valiant
shock ranks higher, got it
What are yalls prediction for winners in NA and APAC?
Shock and Dragons
Nice @true hound
It should be Shock and Shanghai but I wouldn’t be surprised if teams like NY or Chengdu won APAC
Or Paris Philly in NA
my prediction is Outlaws will make it to a map 7 with the Shock, and it will be 1-1 on KOTH and Houston will be 99-0
And make a crazy run
Like what paris did in the summer showdown
I might be riding on recency bias but I can see a world where Justice go deep
Carpes hungry
Ttuba is on genji man he’s always on
He just has the feed factor
Stitch has the potential to be great
Roar needs to turn off the hyper feed and Justice would actually win games
@true hound nah outlaws will c9 to lose
I think the real match we're all waiting for is
Especially on the ashe
The toiletbowl
The clown fiesta
Boston are actually dead in the water
True
That team is helpless
I like how they get a new player, he looks good, and the longer he's on the team the worse he looks
HMM I wonder why
Playing for Boston is literally a career ended
You boom after one game in the team
Punk and myungbong
I have a feeling will get picked up in the off season
Especially myungbong
They barely won a game where Blase was on McCree
Boston are selling the bong for sure
Yeah
He’s going to go to Seoul or something for a fat stack
Then they will buy another korean flex support from O2 and profit
O2 is like a breeding ground for monster flex support le
What do you think about jerry
Maybe
Someone’s preseason power rankings btw
Pain.
They got 2 teams right
Kinda
Getting boston right
Means nothing
Shock is better tho
There was a change theyd not be number 1 anymore
Shanghai 3rd
N o
Nyxl 2nd
????
I mean maybe they were riding the hotba hype train
I don’t know how anyone would have Hangzhou above Guangzhou preseason
The list makes sense given the knowledge then
Hangzhou and Toronto are definitely too high
When you pick up half of EM
Remember
No one thought Xzi was amazing
Plus BenBest and Nosmite were seen as below average tanks
You see like the top 4 and bottom 5 or so are usually easy to decide
but in between
is a clusterfuck
Benbest wasn't that great, but NineK and Rush are omega good
And now benbest is good
Paris coaches are on some of that good shit
And even more
Paris coaches are the second best in the league
Crusty is just a mad man
Imagine Justice with some of the Paris Coaching
Or Crusty doing what he did with Boston and Shock in season 1
I think both are good
I’d have to say Paris
Because there’s a constant in both
NineK
NineK just leaving the best team in the world to a bad team then making them top 3
holy crap would it kill the OWL managers to just get some kind of page up with details of the format of the upcoming tourney? This is a farce :/
Yes 
Could totally see outlaws going more korean
or
chinese
or yknow just go for fusions/myungbong since Boston won't keep them
honestly that was really cute from Rawkus
Fusions would do well here
If he doesnt
At that point its the team thats the problem
Not the MT
True
Why did Violet get banned?
from?
Shock
oh for 1 game
Yeah
toxicity in a ladder game
not his first time
why do you think that
houston fan is upset shock didnt try
Texan team fans 
i mean lul
every dps in shock is world class
who cares if there's no taiyo or not
plus taiyo is only with shock barely a week

Even better someone turned that tweet around and reminded people she’s a groomer
I fell asleep did super play zen I watched him play genji second match
Dw dude, super fell asleep as well
Imagine complaining about that then muting any response lol
No wonder Houston fans have such a bad rep
yay that's uh
that's my people
I do agree they're memeing themselves too much and getting too upset when people meme them back, but that's just
yikes
its just embarrasing
like, why would shock actually try when they don't have to?
if they had to try, they would have
but they didn't
that is more on Houston than Shock
someone commented that the players individually are not the issue
it's the management and coaching
I am also roughly of that opinion
except for Hydration and Linkzr
Linkzr is inconsistent
Hydration is not experienced enough as mt
otherwise
Still done pretty well though
I mean, he is still playing well enough that they could have defeated several teams
he is likely not the worse possible mt
but he is not idea;
ideal*
all I know is Atlanta v Dallas
hunters free weekend? 😦
I hope Val can play good so philly vs val can be fun
before corona I was a big fan of their rein... why is dreamer only played 😦
Dallas vs Atlanta, Glads vs Mayhem, Philly vs Valiant, then Boston vs Titans
masters match*
isn't the match to kick a team from the upcoming tournament?
It figures out who is 12
And unless one of them got good out of nowhere
They are getting knocked no matter what
Yeah
uprising vs titans
boogalo match
clownfiesta
who's gonna win?
Titans to Boston:
"Hey, you're in my league"
titans
Titans
where is pokpo?
LOOOOOOOL
just think atlanta has had a bad year, coaching and stuff
junk pog
Theres gotta be some bigger reason why Decay is not playing
It's close to crunch/playoffs time
You need as many wins/maps as you can get
valorant :)
onigod isn't exactly a throw
Hes also not the giving you the best 6 rn
Unless Decay is leaving and Dallas is hellbent on this specific starting 6 going into next year, then I dont know why they are benching him
erster
lol
man
felt like watching jakerat again
except with much more success
jsilly is fun to watch
goats
honestly i wouldnt mind that as an arcade mode
yeah
it would need bunch of roles tho, like 5 roles just to make ppl play goats everytime

well, normal goats
flex dps god erster
LMFAOOOOOOOOOOOOO
HAWK
hello crimzo?
crimzo lmao
FUEL OMEGALUL
those classic ranked Ana's
HAWKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK
can't nano on time
not even first 
crimzo??
bring super in to coach doha on genji 
Crimzo nano
erster lol
This is gonna be an easy 3-0 isnt it
@clear crane looks like it
pretty much 3-0
Aer omegalul

the fuel cycle turns once more
Where did Custa have Dallas in the power rankings again? 5th after Florida? Yea hahahaha no...
Decay non-existent
dallas is terrible
how is aero still the coach
seriously why are dallas not playing Decay
No idea
should've fired him in season 1
he must be sucking dick
doha is bad, dont understand why people say he is good
no way he stays there for 3 years
?
Doha is pretty good lol
Why is doha bad
he is terrible
he hasn't looked as comfortable with onigod
look at the last game they played
compared to decay
He's not. Issue is coaching
i believe it was last week
Coaching is so bad
what's up with the coaches?
all these southern teams suck
I swear, Fuel never becomes a great team with Aero
Did my man just say Doha is bad
he is lmfao
mad buggin fr
don’t they normally play doha decay
shaggy is a fuel fan
they haven't for a few game
malding
i remember him face diving into the enemy team last week
the last time decay played was against outlaws
wow
not a fan of any team lmfao
outluls
one face dive and he's bad according to you
which was 2 (?) weeks ago
decay 😔 where he at bro
decay would do better than doha
yeah it’s decay
ofc he is in owl and better than most of us but compared to others in owl, he isn't very good
nah decay and doha worked best together
thats bc decay carried
since onigod started playing with doha doha looks less comfortable
smh
aero is fucking ass
crimzo is bad
crimzo is good man
doha is very good
i would rather see doha decay over oni decay any time
doha/decay best
idk what you're watching
tf was that coal in village
crimzo is good
Remove AERO
team bad =/= coaches
excuses
The players for dallas aren't that bad
like decay/doha/onigod on paper is one of the best DPS lineups in the league
For dallas to be this consistently ass it's probably coaching
^
for example, look at justice, bad team, but you can tell jjanu is good
it's not "probably" - it is
Bad team? lol
not always coaching
They are improving, but you don't see it because you expect them to win 3-0
the players are good, it’s just when you put them with bad coaches they plummet. you are just spitting hate just to spit hate and aren’t even thinking about it
No, wtf you mean
That's not a truth, that's an opinion
literally at the bottom of the bracket
hey do they removed hero bans?
Well not completely
k thx
they’re there for 2 weeks and then they’re out
yall so dumb, can't accept the truth and still talking
each month
for the tournament
prob biased
k
try to speak without bias
Just like you are
LUL
all I see is mald
^
Minecraft pvper
he so mad
why van lost? couldn't fkn switch off double shield
playing into a sym
both rounds
smart
i aint speaking bias
washington is at the bottom
mad cuz u fanboi
ok
actually, boston is, but boston uprising doesn’t exist
also playing onigod on widow at 200 ping is actually unfair on him
guys what happened to decay from dallas fuel, reinforce says decay can go play minecraft ?
what's he supposed to do
why is onigod playing when hes at 200 ping then ?
we need a CoAcH tO tElL uS what tO pLaY bC wE cAnT tHiNk fOr OuRsElVeS
@ebon aurora then dont have him on widow? like bruh use some of your iq
because of the coaches
saucy and lr1s
also yeah anyone know what happened to decay??
idk why Decay isn't playing
yeah saucy is in
apparently Onigod is the "safer" player according to Aero
but is he good?
whatever tf that means
wait for the meme
yes saucy is good
washington and boston are both at the bottom
tf you mean
saying at the bottom doesnt mean all the way
last place
smh
there’s only one bottom and that’s the non-existent team, boston
@karmic grotto what do you get for this https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/233904315247362048/739569014858186862/unknown.png
?
im hoping you're still a child bc that'd be hella immature @karmic grotto
is Valiant potentional winning or is it a 100% loss ?
there’s only one bottom and that’s the non-existent team, boston
@young gorge
stop embarrassing yourself
for example
Doubtful valiant beats philly
i cant wait to see more players on Hou because 2 retired this year i believe
super is a top player, does that mean he is the best #1 epic gamer??
LMFAO
oml
thank god i quit this trash game
then why are you here
i only watch the league
you are just a troll sitting in a esports chat just to spit dogshit about a game you stopped playing
nah
now, i have better things to do than to humor you, so i’m going to go pay attention elsewhere
either bc its unpopular or you dont like it
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
LMFAO HAHAHAH
Lr1s!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
my dude actually wasted his time making some meme
xd
ok so
?
if im not perfect and dont do things right, does that mean i cant criticize?
You are my entertainment until the match starts
Keep talking, I'll make more memes
idk just ignore it
I won't respond to people using "r u"
just know that, that meme is quite embarrassing
not worth attention
for you
@clear crane Yeah, I'll keep doing what I was doing
its fkn discord
lol
my guy puts grammar into some online sht
smh
What is this? School?
want me to type like that?
i could
god
you find the littlest things to insult someone
like people who get triggered and talk about someones ign
or their pfp
you ask how old he is, same question to you
18-
oh ok Lr1s is a support but ppl are excited so i guess hes good
ur literally triggered urself responding lmfao
well, it seems Atlanta has not integrated him perfectly
that window was so fast from crimzo
Dallas is awake
about time
I think Reign were getting cocky

but subbing the new players in
did fuel just toggle like really
Fuel just has momentum
Also
Numbani second point is horrible
Literally two spawns
'I sTiLl cAnT bE tHe CoAcH oF FuEl iN 3 yEaRs WiThOuT rEsUlTs' - @karmic grotto
cant criticize
bc one cant handle it
holy fuck dude stfu lmfao
2nd checkpoint of KOTH is always very snowbally anyways, if they cap here that’s what makes the difference
just talk about the game no one cares
no
its just embarrassing, i feel it for him
why is shaggy still talking
if you're not even going to discuss the match why are you in this channel?
<@&397922982632226816> can someone plz come clean this up
i was but some dude kept getting at me
no
jesus 60%
this map is very one sided it always feels
o wtf atl came back
its called ignore it?
numbani is always roll second point then long 3rd point hold
lr1s playing
also lr1s on 200 ping
I see
Like Fielder
why the fuck would they put onigod on hitscan
decay has been accused of benching him self to play valorant
Cause
that damage jesus
@craggy estuary but he said that was a rumor
onigod shouldn't get played until he fixes ping
who said it was a rumor?
wasnt it just brad who said that
but to be honest what chances are sausy and Lr1s have of playing after this match
he said its false?
@next mesa Well, you can say that about other players
shaggy you still talking?
he should be playing rn 😦
Season 4 will be better
decay is too good
@karmic grotto especially on hitscan though
Ah
But I remember Aero saying something about wanting to build around Onigod after they lost the first match against new Titans
just do this to him. not worth it
How have saucy and iris been playing?
Yes, hit scan is a pain in the ass
like they would bring out the "newer" players to a more important match
wouldnt*
post a large enough message and you get automuted
point bruh
10 seconds
its not bad i mean
Not a bad hold
It's something
couldve been 0
but still weird comp considering the plkayers
its not bad though
But Saucy is aggro
its not bad on either side
I believe shaggy got muted btw, ty mods
considering this is their first game not bad
like I can understand lr1s instead of dogman you feel me
@next mesa what about saucy then
lr1s seems a bit out of sync
Because from what im seeing rn
saucy seems to just have the extra aggro bc nerves
honestly, I expected saucy and lr1s to lose them this map outright
He seems like he isnt comfortable on genji
he goes in trying to make an impressive hero play
due to being new
Also is Lr1s in Korea rn?
well hes new to the team so the gears might be a little slow
or just bait
Lr1s is EU
@hot heart don't mind having saucy when they're up 2-0
he goes in trying to make an impressive hero play
@vale pond true
so is Saucy
what's the harm
EU?
@hot heart he's super aggro with blade
I think so?
isnt he KR
Third Impact is EU no?
Whyd they pick up saucy again
or am I wrong
they are NA
kk
Where was this Fuel in the 1st half
well sigma is another dps
4 ults coming up
for sure
note's sigma has been really good this season
If decay or doha already arent carrying them
he isnt consistent
\
which surprised me as I thought he could only play Dva
anyone else not getting owl tokens
So maybe that helped him
poor saucy lol
saucy oh noooo
he tried
Unlucky
super blade
lol
didnt super get a 3k maybe not
he did
damn b
my favorite line is someting but it sounds like turnip party
i dont remember the line
poor saucy lol
So unlucky
zoning blade
oop
zoning blade
big brain
the new way to use blade
Zoning blade
THE RANCH
zoning blades always seems like a bad blade
the ranch
just an excuse
quietly, edison been having a huge game
dude is getting kills during his team getting wiped
Sometimes it really does zone people off points and from pushing in
wtf?
major Genji diff rn
Doha
i like how everyone was mad when they put in oni for decay
Doha Pog
Absolute god gamer
what a clutch
People dont rate doha highly enough sometimes
he really isnt that good hes average
?
HAHAHAHA
lmaooo
no touch
wow
oof
Lmao
unlucky
that was so telegraphed
F
unlucky

even though it wasnt a c9
c10-1 ul
lul
it almost never is
good on masaa
Stun9
no, they are quite rare
reign is playing well with their subs
I find that unlikely
no like actual ones like 3 weeks in a row only once for that week of matches
most teams, even bad ones, do not tunnel like that
damn
yeah this is a coin flip
good on masaa
saucy baited all their cooldowns
ooof
F
Close
we have a series
we'll see
they'll prob sub them back out
they needed every map too
if they wanna try to be in front of Florida for the 4th seed
oop
doha popped off that map
coaching




