esports-discussion

[hot heart]

STOP

FUCK

My brain

Nvm

[fickle flicker]

[hot heart]

Sp9rk1e just

Bro

OH

[fickle flicker]

he was just waiting

[hot heart]

THE DOOM

[fickle flicker]

[tropic herald]

3 ults for that btw

[hot heart]

Nosmite sp9rk1e and fielder

Just carried

Soon

[tropic herald]

tf

[karmic grotto]

win conditions

[tropic herald]

soon inted so hard

[hot heart]

Just threw so many fights

[tropic herald]

and paris still win

[fickle flicker]

loving nosmite's winston today

[lean spire]

This is really close

[fickle flicker]

ikr

[hot heart]

Tbh

[karmic grotto]

i dont think paris will win

[hot heart]

Id just sub in xzi

[karmic grotto]

against a team

better than justice

[hot heart]

Soom is giving me a headache

[lean spire]

Lol

[tropic herald]

soon standing on a brig and mccree in a hallway wondering whats gonna happen

[hot heart]

Actual pepega

[karmic grotto]

[plush grail]

stitch lives in a society https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/593907956047806466/739215720562425936/unknown.png

[hot heart]

OH LET ME JUST STAND ON THE TWO CHARACTERS THAT HARD COUNTER MY ULT

[karmic grotto]

5000 dollars is so pepega

no other big esports league have such low prices

right?

[hot heart]

I mean

Tbh idk

Probably not

[plush grail]

5000 for a team who lost

not 1st place

[karmic grotto]

so?

[hot heart]

Yeah we know

[plush grail]

pretty sure the justice didn't even win a map

[hot heart]

Bro

Did you see the picture

[karmic grotto]

5000 dollars, meanwhile their expenses are hundreds of thousands potentially

[hot heart]

That you literally sent

A minute ago

[plush grail]

yes i did

[hot heart]

Okay

[tropic herald]

okay parsi

play orisa

the good tank

[hot heart]

If they lose this map

They'll lose the series

[karmic grotto]

ohi see

numlocked

is playing at 140 ping

makes sense

every play he makes is in the past

[fluid kettle]

Fielder is at 200 as well

[tropic herald]

main tank is easily the worst role on ping

[sullen berry]

Look at this play

[hot heart]

Sp9rk1e mei

[karmic grotto]

mediocre teams keep scrimming mediocre teams

no wonder

the level is not high

look at apac

[sullen berry]

F to dallas scrimming literally nobody but shanghai in 2018

[karmic grotto]

they're above NA in general

[hot heart]

Is APAC'S peak higher than NA'S peak

[sullen berry]

APAC is wildly low and high

[hot heart]

True

But

The top 1

2

Usually make sensw

[karmic grotto]

asia region adapts and improve

[tropic herald]

that was a fun angle for the fight

[karmic grotto]

but 3-0 are 3-0

but theyre close matches

despite the score

[sullen berry]

I dont believe the consistency is the same in any region, its just easier to put NA on blast because more top teams to scrim with means partners are going to be smaller

[tropic herald]

despite the score here justice arent playing bad

[forest token]

I don't mald uncontrollably when watching apac

[hot heart]

Ttuba

[forest token]

na on the other hand...

[hot heart]

Huge

[sullen berry]

Its not like justice arent playing the objective, either

[plush grail]

how does apac even scrim

there's only a few teams

[tropic herald]

they just dont scrim their matches

adn probably contenders teams

[sullen berry]

Across china (chengdu only) and Korea, 7 teams is particularly healthy enough when you have KR/CN contenders to provide even more scrim diversity

[viral prairie]

Does anyone know how long violet was being suspended for?

[tropic herald]

one game

[sullen berry]

1 game.

[viral prairie]

oh okay

[sullen berry]

Also he is suspended

Not was

[viral prairie]

Thx

[hot heart]

Ttuba

You god

[viral prairie]

oops

[tropic herald]

why cant justice just play like this all the time

so many ults doe

[deep wolf]

SEXTUPLE

[sullen berry]

Because justice cant play like this all the time. Lots of mental and failure is needed to work out how to pull 2K+ dragonblade consistently

[hot heart]

Sp9rk1e??

He didn't see aimgod

F

[tropic herald]

no im just saying

justice are in general playing much better this series than nromal

normal

[sullen berry]

Like im saying, this is the same frustrations i have with Gladiators performance. More so when i have time to even spare a thought for Outlaws

They performed so much better against philly

Only to get reverse swept

[tropic herald]

hanbin dead

[karmic grotto]

?

bad done by justice

should have waited together

[tropic herald]

but sparkle swagging out

[karmic grotto]

pushed together

[tropic herald]

wait

[karmic grotto]

wait

[tropic herald]

paris on lose juice

[karmic grotto]

ttuba y tho

[tropic herald]

?

[karmic grotto]

should hav waited with bob

stupid

classic ranked mistake

[tropic herald]

im so confused

oh

oh man

thats big

but now jusitce have blongo back for you

rally

bongo

blade

what

how

[forest token]

what is it with na

[karmic grotto]

???

[forest token]

and refusing to split

[karmic grotto]

ds

zzzz

[tropic herald]

literally just have tanks drop with ttuba

have stitch and aimgod control high

[forest token]

this is the EXACT same shit that fucking valiant did

[karmic grotto]

hmm

[forest token]

are you fucking kidding me

I hate this region

[karmic grotto]

they copy each other

not much you can do

same maps

scrimming same teams

[forest token]

if you're going to copy someone

copy shock

[tropic herald]

how can you copy shock if you never scrim them

[karmic grotto]

wtf

[forest token]

don't do this "oh we have a hero that's fantastic at offangling and another hero that if she lands her ability then she completely fucks their healing output for ages and puts on tons of pressure and we're just going to sit them in a tiny corridor and not let them actually get any position to leverage their abilities" bullshit

[karmic grotto]

justice hard throwing

[tropic herald]

gg

[forest token]

please

go catwalk

shoot backline

[tropic herald]

justice had that on a silver platter too

[ornate rose]

ark not having it

[karmic grotto]

sparkle better genji? I don't think so

eternal was better team in general

[tropic herald]

please justice

[forest token]

control the area so you can prevent the ashe crossfire

please

[fickle flicker]

sparkle's genji is better than ttuba's imo

[ornate rose]

those dash transitions are clean

[karmic grotto]

easy to say when you have the better team

[forest token]

I'd have to go watch the replay

[tropic herald]

its goign to look like that when you have a better team

[forest token]

I might go bald if I do that tho

[tropic herald]

i think ttuba has a equal genji to sparkle minimum

[silk frost]

56

[tropic herald]

its just

[karmic grotto]

Like, with that logic

[tropic herald]

team differnece

[karmic grotto]

haksal was best genji, but eileen destroyed him and charge won vs nyxl last cup?

[fickle flicker]

not just in this match, sparkle is one of the best genjis

[tropic herald]

eileen still had a really good genji

[forest token]

from what I've seen

I'd rate sparkle above ttuba

[karmic grotto]

yeah, so thats why according to his logic (and mines combined)

eileen > haksal

[hot heart]

Thank mr.sp9rk1e

[ornate rose]

super on the zen today?

[tropic herald]

idk i feel in this meta specifically

[ornate rose]

LULW

[tropic herald]

that genji is very team dependent

so if your team is bad it will be hard to post ressults

[feral zodiac]

End result?

[forest token]

purely off of how quickly he picked up on the current playstyle

[karmic grotto]

ye

[next mesa]

@karmic grotto but last week haksal dominated instead doe

[karmic grotto]

@forest token i can agree with that

[next mesa]

Kinda weirdass

[karmic grotto]

just that ttuba has been working his ass off

[true hound]

ah did the match end

[karmic grotto]

and it shows

[true hound]

I had guitar lessons

[plush grail]

do yall think paris will play less good when genji nerfs go live?

[tropic herald]

i dont want to discredit sparkle doe

[karmic grotto]

@plush grail yes, possibly

[tropic herald]

just ttuba is really good hes on a shit team

[karmic grotto]

maybe not

[tropic herald]

on genji specifically

[karmic grotto]

their team can adapt

good players

[tropic herald]

dont quote me on ttuba mei or something

[karmic grotto]

but if they will beat shock?

meh

unless Rush becomes Crusy 2.0 MAX VERSION

[plush grail]

genji was the one hero where paris beat shock

[true hound]

yep shock

[karmic grotto]

or better, his own version

RUSH

[forest token]

yep shock

[true hound]

yeah cause sparkle was fuckin nuts

[karmic grotto]

playing RUSH comps

[true hound]

but shock is abuse

They’re all way too good

[forest token]

the only thing that can keep a team like shock from dominating is a meta shift

if you give them time to hammer out and practice a meta, they will be on top

[true hound]

they got fucked by sparkle genji but now they’re back lul

[tropic herald]

if the meta shifts super radically then shock will probably fall a little but then come right back up

[forest token]

case and point: they actually have a fucking plan to take hanamura B that isn't "send everyone up tiny hallway and hope"

[true hound]

and even then shock forced Tracer and almost won

which was kinda good

[tropic herald]

striker tracer

poggers

[true hound]

Rascal genji though

He got ass whooped

[forest token]

paris vs. shock during that match was pretty much "is the new meta strong enough to overcome shock's prep"

and... it was

[next mesa]

I think Paris will be worse

Well it almost wasn't to be fair

[feral zodiac]

Crusty the god

[true hound]

aero monkaS

[next mesa]

Striker tracer is arguably better than Taiyo genji

Like arguably

[true hound]

what does that mean

[tropic herald]

it depends what comes after genji if paris falls hard or not

[next mesa]

Like are you getting more value with Taiyo genji

[karmic grotto]

xzi soon

[next mesa]

Than striker tracer

Idk about that

[true hound]

idk

[forest token]

hmm

[true hound]

Whatever it’s shock

[forest token]

genji spread buff still in

[true hound]

They’ll win anyways

[next mesa]

Just because striker so insane

[true hound]

Spread remains

[tropic herald]

like if somehow sombra mcree is meta

[true hound]

So genji remains as well

Hopefully

[tropic herald]

paris wont fall hard

[true hound]

I want doom to be played

Cause chips

• we get to see sparkle as well

[karmic grotto]

fusion too pussy

to play chipsa

[ornate rose]

lmao eqo

[next mesa]

Genji Wont be meta

After the nerfs

That's just my guess but

[keen warren]

@sullen berry your predictions just got wrecked

[forest token]

I don't think he'll be a must-pick anymore

[true hound]

Yeah but he’ll be good

[hot heart]

I just

[true hound]

cause his spread

[next mesa]

I think doom will be better

[true hound]

eh

[hot heart]

Why'd they nerf him like they did

[true hound]

Cause

Why not

[forest token]

but there's a very real possibility he sticks around, especially since paris really doesn't want to run anything else

[tropic herald]

genji too good

[true hound]

People asking to revert spread but nerf damage were dumb

That will send genji shit tier

[forest token]

I swear to fuck

the amount of people that think genji is purely a dueler

[true hound]

lul

[forest token]

holy shit

[true hound]

farm tanks dash up ez nanoblade ez wins

[hot heart]

Genji was made to be a brawler

[true hound]

but that’s boring way

[hot heart]

At least in this meta

[true hound]

uhhhh

I mean

He nukes tanks

[hot heart]

His blades

[forest token]

genji's one of the most flexible heroes in the game

[true hound]

He nukes backline

[hot heart]

Just deletes everyone

[true hound]

he fits into most comps

Cause he has tank pressure

[hot heart]

True

[true hound]

And backline pressure

[forest token]

as long as you're able to play him correctly

[plush grail]

genji can poke, duel, get picks and do big team wipes

[true hound]

so it was sad seeing him being a dogshit, not even niche pick

Since he was very flexible at one point

[hot heart]

Id rather see genji become like a torb

[true hound]

huh

[forest token]

spread buff makes it so you can't just hard zone him 24/7

[hot heart]

Than just be completely bad

[karmic grotto]

bring back soldier

[true hound]

Soldier is dead

[karmic grotto]

member when soldier was meta?

[forest token]

I want a return to the s3 days

of faze tripletank

[true hound]

Oh

Shadowburn genji

[plush grail]

L E G S

[hot heart]

The legs

[true hound]

• triple tank?

[karmic grotto]

dive + brig/zen /tracer/soldier

[true hound]

Rein dva Hog SDB genji and uhh

[forest token]

sdb genji vs. envy legs

[karmic grotto]

hero pools

changed the meta more

[true hound]

sdb nutty

[karmic grotto]

with only have double shield

zzzz

[true hound]

I wish he played on the new buffs

he’s gone now tho

[forest token]

still playing the weeb chars

[tropic herald]

roky in

what

[plush grail]

imagine if stitch joined owl again

[karmic grotto]

?

[true hound]

Is kariv in

[tropic herald]

no

[plush grail]

joking lol

[true hound]

gg

titans won

[plush grail]

but he might as well just not be on the justice

[rare magnet]

roolf has a huge canadian accent

[forest token]

what the FUCK is na

im fucking done

[digital cloud]

dalton looking like a better genji than I remembered

[forest token]

na genjis and pulling blade right in front of a brig, name a better combo

[true hound]

na blades pepelaugh

[forest token]

HOYL FDISAFODSA KJ

I swear to fucking god

if I see another genji burn dash in front of a brig or pull blade in front of a brig

[digital cloud]

watch Vancouver win lol

[tropic herald]

if

i will die

[forest token]

why is nevix not helping the cross

???

[true hound]

no Kariv no win

[silk frost]

OH MY SHOCKWAVE

[tropic herald]

cockwave

[deep wolf]

shockwave is the carry

[tropic herald]

cock diff

[ornate rose]

titans looking pretty good rn

[forest token]

I really disagree with agilities's dash that last fight

[true hound]

Wtf shockwave is good at everything

pogwave

[forest token]

if he dashes out and plays mega side he can help contain shockwave or rotate and engage with dash to brawl

shockwave had absolutely no one contesting him

which is not good

how the fuck

[deep wolf]

damn shockwave

[tropic herald]

what

[digital cloud]

that was a weird fight

[true hound]

pogwave got 2 but no one to touch sadge

[forest token]

nevix was on point and they were boxed into the mega room

how did they win that

did they like hard commit into gold or smth

is defiant just not scouting

like how are they getting caught like this

that's like 3 times in the last like two minutes that they've been caught by something like that

[vale pond]

poor poor shockwave

[true hound]

rip shields

junk and sym ow

That’s hard cheese

[inland pawn]

FINED KEKW

[forest token]

I think the doom is a trash pick into that as well

cuz they can just put a trap down and play around that

[vale pond]

idt theres a filter he just *'ed

[true hound]

Sym turrets fuck you

[forest token]

which makes your engages super difficult

[true hound]

And trap

with your chunky hitbox ur just an easy target

every engage you’ll get blown up or slowed down

[vale pond]

what else does he go though?

[true hound]

not doomfist

cheesing sym on this point works well

[vale pond]

thats easy to say

[forest token]

idk what his pool is

[vale pond]

he's a flex hitscan sort of

he has the biggest pool on the team though

[true hound]

ye

[forest token]

at the end of the day if they only scrimmed the doom they're better off staying on the doom than trying to cheese out a win on something they don't know how to play

[vale pond]

that was probably the case

[inland pawn]

someone get this shockwave guy better teammates

[vale pond]

they won the first fight but got lost when they started losing

which team needs him though?

justice?

not much of an improvement

[inland pawn]

its not even what team needs him. titans need better players for shockwave.

[true hound]

just get an actual projectile player

[vale pond]

like vancouver looks ok when they play well

just thats far apart

[balmy wolf]

hmm Should i buy the Eternal Genji skin because i like sp9rkle or CHengdu cuz them colors are hot ?

[vale pond]

atlanta

[candid meadow]

Lol

[vale pond]

torb

[karmic grotto]

Ksaa still playing with ping

[balmy wolf]

if dafran comes back

[vale pond]

didnt tsuna look better than dalton?

I guess dalton has the only genji

logix v shockwave oop

ugh cant wait for the genji nerfs to hit the league

[silk frost]

shockfeed

[forest token]

I just

I can't

[silk frost]

thank you mr. logix

[forest token]

please

[inland pawn]

someone lower dalton's genji ult requirements 😂

[silk frost]

get a genji player

please

stop using dalton

or let him ON TRACER

[forest token]

this is like

standard na genji play

[silk frost]

standard NA contenders you mean

[forest token]

have you seen some of agilities's blades

[silk frost]

not really no

lol

probably happened while I was building my creeper farm

[inland pawn]

isnt that why people refer to agilities as disabilities

[forest token]

I've never heard that one

ksf also fucking fed his brains out

[vale pond]

vancouver is trying to force the meta when they're ass on it

[forest token]

like compare these na blades to sparkle blades

[next mesa]

Sparkle blades also gets cucked

All Genji blades do

[vale pond]

this guy

[next mesa]

Either you get 0 value and die

[inland pawn]

sparkle farms blades so much faster that it doesnt even matter as much

[next mesa]

Or win teamfight

[silk frost]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/704020700574253189/739233956922261534/unknown.png
Dalton, walking into Logix's sightlines

[true hound]

sparkle blades are good

hes patient

he doesnt fucking int

[forest token]

typically he does a much better job of managing when he's vulnerable

with na genjis it's like they feel the need to win the fight right then and there

[true hound]

as hydration said theres never a good time to use that thing

but sparkle dies the least out of all the genjis mid blade

[silk frost]

because Sparkle is a beast

[forest token]

and it causes them to just fucking feed

compare that to the actual genji gods, who are much more patient and understand what they need to get out of the blade

and don't open up opportunities to shut them down if they don't need to

[vale pond]

oop

[forest token]

like if you're in a winning position, why the everliving fuck would you let your opponent get back into the map

like bro

[vale pond]

balanced hero

[silk frost]

huge bongo

[forest token]

you can't cancel blade cd anymore

stop

[true hound]

kinda clean

[inland pawn]

he nasty with it

[lean spire]

This is the phattest Dps diff

[forest token]

@vale pond logix picked carcar to kick off the fight and you think that's an example of genji being broken?

???

[lean spire]

Or like genji diff

[true hound]

bruh

agilities is an inter

[vale pond]

I'm talking abt the shockwave kill jel

[lean spire]

Huh

[silk frost]

yeah Logix and Shockwave have been similar power, but Dalton has been less impactful than Agilities

[forest token]

ah

I thought you were talking about the blade

[silk frost]

also carcar is AWFUL

[vale pond]

didnt carcar used to be gold on philly fusion?

[silk frost]

not bad on the scoped crit

idk maybe?

Carcar was good in Contenders but I think he just doesn't make it in OWL

[next mesa]

38%?!?

That's really good

[silk frost]

yeah very good

[vale pond]

he needs a better team

[silk frost]

a better main support and a better meta

[vale pond]

I'd say replace carcar and get a proj dps

and they'd be ok

[lean spire]

I think it’s cuz van has no brig

[silk frost]

at least Carcar couldn't feed as hard on Brig

that's my logic

[fresh epoch]

lul its my first day back in 6 months and hearing double shields is still so strong in this game at competetive level makes me sad.

[forest token]

I. swear. to. fuck.

please

[silk frost]

yeah every patch they balance like 2 heroes in experimental, then decide not to do half of it

"why is meta still stale" because they aren't DOING ANYTHING

Blizzard hasn't balanced a tank in months

[vale pond]

poor poor shockwave

[true hound]

shockwave with the nonstop picks

[silk frost]

and only Genji has been changed significantly in the DPS category

[next mesa]

They really need to nerf halt

[vale pond]

I'm willing to bet he pulled a fleta deadlift that map

[forest token]

@fresh epoch it looks very different than it used to

[silk frost]

Shockwave has been playing up to Logix which is crazy

[true hound]

@fresh epoch double shield doesnt have moira lucio reaper doom anymore

orisa and sigma have remained staples

[next mesa]

Logix and shockwave

[true hound]

but now we have bap, brig, ashe, tracer/genji/mei, sigma orisa

[vale pond]

hot take shockwave is playing better than logix

[true hound]

but its still cancer anyways

[silk frost]

bap zen has been double shield meta for months too

that's not that hot

[forest token]

it was bap brig for awhile

then armor pack got nerfed

[vale pond]

its still bap brig

[inland pawn]

not a hot take but i wouldnt say one is stomping the other. its been going back and forth.

[vale pond]

its a slight edge to shock

I dont think its a stomp

[fickle flicker]

owl doesn’t use discord?

[vale pond]

they use teamspeak I think

[fickle flicker]

[forest token]

im gonna go watch bonk bonk nip

I can't watch na owl unless someone good is playing

[lean spire]

Shockwave is a top 5 NA widow

[true hound]

tf is bonk bonk nip

[next mesa]

There's a meme on how defiant is sponsored by canon but no one has their webcam turned on

It's hilarious

[forest token]

the team bonk, the verb bonk, then the team nip

[true hound]

oh

[fresh epoch]

@forest token just dont really agree on genji nerfs i wished they nerfed either nano/blade... like slower charge or a slight damage reduction or made counter play easier to survive it, since still nobody plays zen in ranked games. but well its just me and maybe i have the worst ideas, and i dont even play genji. but getting wiped all the time as a support sucks. even if you are spread out. if your team isnt you still cant do much about it. or rahter its very hard.

[true hound]

valorant?

[tropic herald]

Jel you better come for next game

[true hound]

just remove damage boosts on blade and adjust to compensate

keep the spread

[forest token]

what's next match

[true hound]

super zen

vs outlaws

[wintry kraken]

karq's DSLR ad makes me sad every time i see it - i got a DSLR which has no video recording capability 😦

[forest token]

HAHAHA oh yeah I definitely am gonna pop back in for that

[karmic grotto]

Imagine being sponsored but not having any of their products

[next mesa]

Nanoblade was never the problem

[karmic grotto]

Always was

[next mesa]

For genji

[karmic grotto]

[next mesa]

On why he's strong

[true hound]

nanoblade is dumb as fuck though

[forest token]

nanoblade was the only thing that made him viable in 2018

cuz his neutral was dog

[karmic grotto]

Dash slash

That's it

[next mesa]

Like if nanoblade was so strong why is ana never ran instead of bap brig

[true hound]

lul ive seen people say dry blade covered for his dog neutral

and im like wtf

[next mesa]

Because the value isn't good worth switching to ana

[fresh epoch]

lul? from gold to top 500 nano blade gets team wipes and its not strong or good? maybe it just charged too fast since he did more damge and that was all the problem there was? not sure.

[forest token]

because you don't need to nanoblade anymore

in general

[true hound]

bongo blade or blade for pressure

[karmic grotto]

Orisa super charger

[true hound]

you'll force out a lot of abilities

[forest token]

strats that rely on ults are not good

[next mesa]

Yes

[forest token]

because by picking a comp with a shit neutral you're behind in the ult economy anyway

[next mesa]

If your whole strat is nanoblade

[forest token]

so yes nanoblade is strong, but if you can run genji without it why sacrifice the neutral

[next mesa]

And blade gets cucked half of the time

You're just in trouble sacrificing 2 ults

[forest token]

ok legit

there are like 3 genjis I would confidently tell you to watch to see how strong blade is

because I swear to fucking god every fucking genji player in NA is such fucking dogshit

[true hound]

s e a g u l l

[next mesa]

There's 3 relevant genjis in owl right now sparkle Eileen and haksal

[inland pawn]

super genji

[true hound]

whoru still exists

[forest token]

literally dashing into the enemy team

[karmic grotto]

[forest token]

right in front of the enemy brig

and then pulling blade

[next mesa]

Haksal > whoru on genji

[inland pawn]

w h OMEGALUL r u

[forest token]

like what the fuck

[next mesa]

Although

[karmic grotto]

Imo, whoru isn't delivering

[next mesa]

Difference is small

[forest token]

haksal's playstyle fits with nyxl much better

[fresh epoch]

i'm not saying i'm a pro gamer in fact i suck at the game. but its really not fun to try to survive nano blade with ur team if you play around plat meta. nobody stays far apart and makes it really easy for genji to do his kills. @next mesa @forest token 🙂 and i hated that. just dont feel like his normal damage was the problem.

[true hound]

whoru likes to nuke backlines

[next mesa]

They don't need whoru because

[true hound]

watch him play ranked

he never plays with his team

[next mesa]

Haksal is basically whoru on crack

[true hound]

no haksals just an actual

team player

[forest token]

that's why when haksal said he wanted to play with a korean roster I immediately called a nyxl transfer

[next mesa]

Obv

[forest token]

haksal rarely goes for mechanically difficult plays

[next mesa]

It was only choice

[inland pawn]

dalton has 0.1 more elims per blade than agilities cus he gets way less blades 😂 jesus

[forest token]

like

if you're looking for a bigdick nuke every fight hard carry genji

go for whoru

that's not what haksal's focus is

[fresh epoch]

sometimes i see games where the genji has his ult before everyone else and thats a problem in my eyes.

[true hound]

well yeah but now its back to normal

[forest token]

I've seen zaryas build grav before the point unlocks on koth

[fresh epoch]

yeah they made his damage less so his ult chages less but i'd have just made his ult charge a litttle slower.

[true hound]

hm

yeah but to be fair the 30 deleted people

so im fine with a damage nerf, as long as they dont touch spread

reverting the spread keeping damage = gutting the hero

[forest token]

the spread is so fucking important

[fresh epoch]

yeah true probably only if they were alone but not really hard on the ladder.

[true hound]

wdym

[fresh epoch]

yeah he did a lot of damage up close.

and i often was too slow to heal my teammates also.

so i guess i wont complain as support.

is cree ever played against a good genji in owl or does he just suck? i havent watched OWL in months now.

so no idea what meta is or anything.

can someone explain it to me?

[forest token]

why run cree when you can run widow or ashe

genji's strong, but he's not strong enough to warrant that pick

[tropic herald]

If you see McCree in OWL it’s generally not a genji forcing that pick

Normally Sombra and/or Tracer force McCree

[forest token]

cree has a much easier time vs. a genji than a tracer

[fresh epoch]

guess cree is too slow to do much against orisa / sigma?

or what is the reason?

[true hound]

Dynamite

[forest token]

widow has the threat of that 300 dmg burst and ashe has crazy pressure if a dynamite lands

as well as having a much better ultimate

[fresh epoch]

oh oki i get it!

god im craving a new dev update since months now.

probably never gonna get one D:

[true hound]

dalton pog

[tropic herald]

Basically Ashe has really good neutral and widow has pick potential

McCree has flash to ward off pesky flankers and stuff

[hot heart]

Has the game begun

Super zen

[tropic herald]

Dynamite is really good rn though Bc it forces the Bap to shift or the Brig heal is negated

Nah Titans Defiant still on

[fresh epoch]

so..................

Mccree is trash ?xD

[true hound]

nah his dps is filthy

its just ashe and widow have better kits

mccree is very good but ashe and widow are something else

[tropic herald]

All the hitscans are good

Except soldier

[forest token]

at a top level it doesn't matter if something is good if something else is better

[tropic herald]

Yeah

If something’s even just a little better it will be abused 100% of the time

Although if they actually do nerf double shield and barriers again they better nerf basically every hitscan or else it will be a hitscan world

[deep wolf]

LETS GO TITANS

LETS GO TITANS LETS GO

1.1 SECONDS

[hot heart]

[deep wolf]

FFS TITANS

[true hound]

ughhhhh

drawskaya

[clear crane]

ay 10cp

[vale pond]

are they still going?

oh shit

[true hound]

bro istg

[deep wolf]

wtf is this game

[vale pond]

WAIT

[deep wolf]

DONT C9

NO WAY

[true hound]

what is this garbage

i hate 2cp

[deep wolf]

wdym this match is fucking crazy

[true hound]

holy fuck

defiant threw

SO hard

[vale pond]

lmaoo

[digital cloud]

dang

this map

[vale pond]

I'm fucking dying

[true hound]

lmao shockwave

[tropic herald]

Wow look at that

Everyone hates 2CP

[vale pond]

kruise and carcar masochists

[tropic herald]

But the brig players

[deep wolf]

there's no way titans can choke now

right?

[fresh epoch]

2cp is trash true

[deep wolf]

r-right?

[true hound]

thi siwll never end

[fresh epoch]

❤️

[true hound]

they are locked in 2cp forever

[vale pond]

ok titans throw now

lul

[true hound]

6-5

pain is all i feel

[vale pond]

agilities has blade

[true hound]

i swear if they cap with time

[deep wolf]

I BELIEVE

[vale pond]

6-6 time lmap

lmao

[deep wolf]

THIS CANT BE A DRAW

[true hound]

istg

it may

[dusky canopy]

If they cap with time they both get another minute

[deep wolf]

agilities has blade tho

:E

[vale pond]

its hanamura atlanta I think

[true hound]

NOOO

ITS GONNA BE 6-6

[deep wolf]

NO NO NON O

[vale pond]

bruh moment

[digital cloud]

6-6

[deep wolf]

OMG

GO TITANS

[true hound]

ITS OVER

[vale pond]

holy shittt

[digital cloud]

guess not

[vale pond]

6 - 5 and 2/3

[tropic herald]

I might’ve cried if it went on

[deep wolf]

WHAT A MATCH

[vale pond]

so close lmao

[true hound]

WHAT IS THIS

[pale roost]

LETS GOOOOOOO TITANS . RUN THEM OVER !!!

[dusky canopy]

Reverse sweep incoming

[tropic herald]

11CP

[true hound]

roky praying

[vale pond]

where's kariv?

[pale roost]

Nobody messes with my bois lets go

reverse sweep incoming

[gloomy vector]

any people wonder why 2cp is bad LUL

[vale pond]

happy for titans though lol

[digital cloud]

might be a reverse sweep in the works

[vale pond]

that'd be lit

they could prove they can still win in a genji meta

which would make their mentals

wtf is circle k

[tropic herald]

Hey

New Titans finally did something

https://twitter.com/owlstatsnet/status/1289685274918707201?s=21

Overwatch League Statistical Insights (@owlstatsnet)

The New Titans have now won more regular-season maps (8) this year than the Old Titans (7).

Twitter

[vale pond]

nice

and they'll overtake winds in a sec

[tropic herald]

https://twitter.com/sfshock/status/1289691554966167553?s=21

San Francisco Shock (@SFShock)

This Volskaya is taking longer than our entire match last week.

Twitter

[vale pond]

lmao

oop first reverse sweep in team history

lmaoo

shockwave killed agilities after getting jumped

[deep wolf]

shockwave is kinda insane

[vale pond]

he is

titans' jerry

every shit team has a carry hitscan

[deep wolf]

what a tp

[vale pond]

oh shit

[deep wolf]

neither of these teams can defend properly

[vale pond]

dalton and car car popping off damn

this fight determines the round'

[deep wolf]

titans' brig/orisa werent with the team :(((

[vale pond]

carcar lost that fight

overextended so far

poor shockwave again trying to save it

dalton to tracer

[digital cloud]

guess it's over

gg

[deep wolf]

bro logix

[vale pond]

they're boomed

[digital cloud]

anticlimactic

[vale pond]

would dive not work here?

[clear crane]

oof Carcar only 1 ult

[vale pond]

thats unfortunate

[deep wolf]

:(

[clear crane]

Aight time for Super Zen

[vale pond]

get a proj dps and a better main supp

[gloomy vector]

at least Hou isnt last

[vale pond]

POTM shouldve been shockwave

if only they gave it to the losing team

[gloomy vector]

i mean i dont think the losing team should ever get it

[tropic herald]

Waiting for that starting line up from shock

[vale pond]

I think if one player plays phenomenally and loses in spite of it they should at least give a mention

[sullen berry]

@keen warren lmao how about this game?

[gloomy vector]

yeah the super genji is prob coming out

[sullen berry]

@gusty cipher bye bye buddy 👋

[gusty cipher]

bye bye buddy

[vale pond]

super zen

[clear crane]

Super Zen plzzzzzzz

[vale pond]

super ana

[deep wolf]

super brig 😳

[gloomy vector]

everyone is leave outlaws

[vale pond]

brig is just budget rein'

so obviously super will slapp

[gloomy vector]

leaving i mean

[clear crane]

oof bye Rawkus

[vale pond]

F

[clear crane]

now Team USA needs a new flex supp

[deep wolf]

from shock to outluls 😔

[vale pond]

F

@clear crane dogman

or sleepy

[keen warren]

@sullen berry I need to catch the replays

[clear crane]

yikes...

[vale pond]

"ta1yo out super in" most cursed line ever

[clear crane]

Awwwwwwwwwwww

[deep wolf]

where is super D:

[vale pond]

booooo

[gloomy vector]

sweaty team wow

[clear crane]

We got baited

[vale pond]

"5th place spot"

arent they 0 and 3

[clear crane]

i was worried if Paris didnt 3-0 den we prob wouldnt see super zen

[vale pond]

who's on the couch?

[clear crane]

prob rascal or ans

[vale pond]

prob ans lol

oop

or violet lul

[dreamy cave]

i fell asleep

i missed both matches

[vale pond]

F

vancouver almost reverse swept defiant

shockwave's back broke

[gloomy vector]

f tbh not too good but ok

[dreamy cave]

is the aduio synced now?

[vale pond]

yes

[gloomy vector]

its syncd for me idk

[digital cloud]

y'all think we are gonna see another speed run?

[gloomy vector]

hopefully not

ok maybe

[digital cloud]

not even having ta1yo on genji

the disrespect

the heck choi

[gloomy vector]

i mean

[vale pond]

reset lul

[gloomy vector]

dont give me hope

[digital cloud]

hmmm

[vale pond]

rascal looks good

[digital cloud]

outlaws retook

not expecting that

[gloomy vector]

its not like rascal is bad

[digital cloud]

thought linkzr was gonna get ans just now

[gloomy vector]

90 is still 90

[digital cloud]

guess no viol2t is making a bit of a difference

[next mesa]

Rascal on genji?

Ok cool

[digital cloud]

won't matter in the end

shock still wins almost certainly

[vale pond]

choi stole the kill lol

[next mesa]

According to crusty twilight is more support style instead of violets dps bap

[vale pond]

ah

[gloomy vector]

no counter

[digital cloud]

rapel anti pharah

[vale pond]

F

linkzr tracer?

[digital cloud]

he is meh

this was not the most ideal map for them

guess they didn't expect a pharah

what is this lol

[gloomy vector]

what is this wild

[digital cloud]

shock sandbagging

this map was

[gloomy vector]

i mean it really was a good hold

[digital cloud]

weirdly close ish

[gloomy vector]

consider who they were playing

[tropic herald]

Rascal is gone

[vale pond]

super time

[lapis yarrow]

Whose everybody got lol

[vale pond]

shock 3-0

4-0 if super plays

SUPER ZEN

SUPER GENJI

[tropic herald]

Oh no

[vale pond]

oh god if super loses a map

[feral zodiac]

SUPER GENJI

[hidden crow]

ah yes super genji

[vale pond]

no super genji disappointing

yes super genji amazing

[tall birch]

SUPER GENJI!!!!! WOOOOOO

[clear crane]

here we go again

[wintry kraken]

bren only hates that it is not brenji 🙂

[vale pond]

uhhh

the video?

[wintry kraken]

switched to 140p for you too ?

[tropic herald]

meko pog

[vale pond]

no the audio desynced

[tropic herald]

shock sandbag

[feral zodiac]

Zuper omegalul

SLEPT

[vale pond]

F

[tropic herald]

shock are not playing well

rapel stonks up

super genji down

[vale pond]

F

[tropic herald]

super bladed 3? times

no blade final blows i guess

[vale pond]

zoning ult

[tropic herald]

holy

[sleek tapir]

Poor Moth

[tropic herald]

moth f

[clear crane]

damn dinkzr

[digital cloud]

dinkzr

[deep wolf]

super will be subbed out

[digital cloud]

rapel on fire today

[tropic herald]

rapel has had sick sleeps

[digital cloud]

geez

[gloomy vector]

damn

[clear crane]

ANS said enough

[vale pond]

super blade

[tropic herald]

rapel

lol

[digital cloud]

shock likely winning this map, but super genji?

come on

[feral zodiac]

LOL

[tropic herald]

RAPEL

[gloomy vector]

omg

[clear crane]

OMG

[deep wolf]

YUP super genji

[dreamy cave]

THAT SLEEP

[digital cloud]

rapel

[tropic herald]

OH

[dreamy cave]

i bet you super slammed his keyboard

[feral zodiac]

Ans

Stop pls

[tropic herald]

oh

[deep wolf]

and thats it

[tropic herald]

oh

[deep wolf]

smh

[dreamy cave]

LINKZER NO

[digital cloud]

ans though

[tropic herald]

rapel

[feral zodiac]

Fucking ans

[tropic herald]

LOL

[feral zodiac]

Please babybay come back

And kill him

[tropic herald]

rapel and linkzr didnt want to lose

[digital cloud]

linkzr looking much better nowadays

[tropic herald]

swear you could look up any time and see some shock player asleep or dead to linzr

[edgy tinsel]

Name 3 hitscans who could stop ans pls

bc i cant

[feral zodiac]

Babybay

Happy

[digital cloud]

Houston is looking at least semi competitive, but to be fair, shock is not running the best possible teams

[dreamy cave]

depends on the hero

[digital cloud]

team*

[edgy tinsel]

widow ashe

[feral zodiac]

3rd idk

Maybe diem

[digital cloud]

babybay? no way

[edgy tinsel]

babybay no

lmfao

[vale pond]

babybay on ashe

but not on widow

[feral zodiac]

Did you not see shock vs atlanta

[digital cloud]

decay, happy, and lip probably

[feral zodiac]

Junkertown

[dreamy cave]

as an atlanta fan, i can say that babybay couldnt take ans

[edgy tinsel]

1 map

[feral zodiac]

Ik

[tropic herald]

LIP Happy Diem

[feral zodiac]

I'm just sucking off babybay

Give him the spotlight pls

[edgy tinsel]

id say no to decay, he isnt this amazing be all end all player for dallas now

[vale pond]

ans is def in a class of his own though

S1 pine lul

[edgy tinsel]

he seriously cooled off

S1 pine was ass

[vale pond]

ik lol

[feral zodiac]

Ksp maybe?

[edgy tinsel]

Stage 1 birdring

[vale pond]

nah

[edgy tinsel]

in s1

[dreamy cave]

season 1 pine was godly

u can take that back

[edgy tinsel]

No he wasnt

[vale pond]

none of the S1 players are on par with s3 players

[edgy tinsel]

lmfao

[vale pond]

s1 pine was streaky

[edgy tinsel]

He had flashy plays, otherwise he was dreadful

[vale pond]

like logix

he wasnt dreadful per se

just not definitively good

[feral zodiac]

We haven't seen the widow duel between carpe and ans have we?

[edgy tinsel]

he had the highest death rate of all widows and outside his flashy 3ks 4ks , he didnt do much

[feral zodiac]

Because carpe played tracer most of that game

And got farmed

[dreamy cave]

nah i dont think we did

yeah carpe played mostly tracer and ash i believe

[next mesa]

heasu got alpha'ed

[edgy tinsel]

heesu played ashe

[feral zodiac]

Jerry 100%