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Now, let's Dafran play in a pro team
322 acs is fucking bonkers
all the pepegas that say ow players cant aim 😳

yeah
But doesn’t have the same ability usage
I dont play valorant anymore but corey should be absolutely insane
That Sinatraa does
lol, playing valorant, then retiring
What makes Sinatraa so good in valorant is good aim + unorthodox play style + Best ability usage in NA
ow players and their ability usage
Dude had double the assists of any player playing in the tournament
sinatraas teammates are also cracked
why are yall talking about valorant in a overwatch esports chat
we like sinatraa @plush grail
Corey slaps in Valorant too
Got to love all these old ow pros slapping the competition
It’s hilarious
Idk much but this is kinda cool
I have some friends who love it but im personally scared of the anticheat getting to look at all my files
don't want it to see my 12 terrabytes of orisa hentai
the anticheat is very sus
gameplay slow and stale compared to ow imo
but thats just me
Riot have marketed very well so far
Me too
yay platchat is on
im sure people who enjoyed cs would enjoy it
The ignition series got 80k viewers on twitch. I wonder what the viewership was like for OW tournaments
Not counting apex
low
free game = more attraction
blizzard games are never free
games that are free to play have more players
bigger audience
more sponsors
The anti cheat isn't even that great 
Does anyone have any tips on getting members 4 your Esports team
Ow tournaments got pretty decent figures
In twitch
On asian streaming services they got and still get fucking nutty viewer numbers
OK, thanks
The viewer base for owl in asia iirc is pretty large
a lot more than western
yeah
That’s for every game not named cs
I wonder if the asian based viewers really only care about the teams there so they don't bother watching NA games
might be 3-4x more
So I wonder what it would look like if all the teams could play
I think LPL matches get 3-4 million concurrent viewers
I don't watch apac
Than more trolls
I value a somewhat normal sleeping schedule
if ow went free to play they need to address smurfs and cheaters heavily
But they are the two biggest
yeah
Esports in the world
I watch apac rebroadcasts/highlights
How many views was ow getting on twitch?
80k? I forgot
I wanna say 80kish+?
60-70k for matches
60k on bad days
I think
Season 1 was my favourite
By far
Season 2 only liked watching good teams
Like shock,titans and NYXL
Most of season 2 was boring except for top goats teams and then watching Hangzhou slowly become a top team
Then stage 4 was utter chaos and fun
In china tournaments get upwards of 400k viewers from what I've heard
Season 1 even shitty teams were fun to watch
Because they can pop off
And steal maps
Not possible in season 2
With goats
True
Like saya hard carrying Mayhem
goats didn't feel awful
Although watching shock just not drop maps was amazing
And mayhem somehow taking a map from Nyxl
that was a good game
I wonder how long OWL will last. Bet all the owners are regretting investing
Kariv dicking on pharah all game vs titans
Owl will last a long time
Because of asia
It's just like league only it's not as large
It’s popularity in Korea is declining
Idk how popular it is in China
But they could set up shop there
But how fast is it declining
It used to be the second most popular pc bang game
Well yes
It’s decently popular in China I think
They care about money
I know boosters make stacks for ow in China

You may be mad but it is true
It's popular enough for people to spend €10,000+ on cheats
lol what
KEKW
Legit that's how expensive some cheats are
bro what
thats a fuck ton of money
Why would you spend that much on anything that’s not tangible
If you want something elseb
imagine spending 10k only to get banned
Could also just get good
That joined together to tell his girlfriend to not leave him
That’s insanely sad
LMAO
😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂
Fax
I remember someone posting the image
But this was in 2019
So I might be scrolling for a while
ah
... O_o
oh god

There is no shame
there is one part where Johnny is sittin here watching them lol
uhhh what
ded
they make a good point where ta1yo genji is not necessarily better than striker tracer
Is there any Chengdu next weekend
I haven't looked at shanghai's playstyle enough to really make a prediction
I think they are at their best when they play dive
nyxl definitely looks a lot stronger with haksal in, could also simply be the map pool
and when ana is available
I'm talking more specifically
ball zarya vs winston dva
nah like where do they like to hold, how do they like to split, who do they have doing what
shit like that
and on a more specific level what the individual players' styles are, e.g. with whoru vs. haksal
I don’t know much but NY played pretty aggro with the ball Zarya and winston Zarya
Could be partly due to Bianca in
Also Rio off of Orisa was definitely a little rough for the team
with orisa back though
oh shit
I think if the pools stayed the same nyxl would pull off the win vs. dragons
Either way
Stan Smurf
nyxl are really good at backing teams into corners and constricting them until they collapse, and looking at dragons vs. spitfire they just don't look decisive enough to stop a well prepared team from doing that
it feels like they're waiting for mistakes then capitalizing on them more than forcing them to happen
Shanghai plays pretty ooga booga they just happen to be mechanically gods so they can get out of sticky stuff
also since when did muma have a 60% teamfight winrate
shock play like a top tier APAC team in NA, of course everything's gonna look fucking bonkers
must be Hydration
Either way that’s still insane stats
smurf wtf
smurf is smurfing in OWL
muma mia
Context is important because they almost speed ran titans
They could have at least have had some fun
But going for a speedrun isn't nice
Can't imagine how boomed they must feel
Losing 3-0 in a embarrassing way
Shock didn't had to be like that
Unnecessary
Their is no fcking way that nico is the only left handed OWL player
thats gotta be false
says it in his trivia^
@raw ermine only 10% of people worldwide are left handed
wouldn't be that surprising
yeah
I kinda wanna go around and disprove that just so I can
I wanna ask Chipsa lol
but his stream is followers only
and I gotta wait 30 min
10% of OWL players should be more than 1 player...
U wanna say, if I have bi hands, I can't be pro?
I thought that left handed ppl were more successful
that is a thing that left handed people made up

me and and a person are having an argument about if the moira changes went through would it kill double shield can someone give me another opinion
likely not
thats what i said
moira might be used more often
but teh tank combination is still quite strong
the*
well Jake doesn't know
time to ask Chipsa
I asked stratus and he doesn't seem to know

cause they're twitch streamers
ok
?
sounds like x red c to me
yeah
look for potential future women OWL players then
that would actually be significant
Are there any women that deserve to be in OWL is the question
I dunno
Because from what ive seen
that is why I want him to look
There arent alot
I am sure there are a few
Yeah probably
But
They are def not better than what are in the league
If they were
Theyd probably be in
Or
Be picked up as a backup
Possibly starter
maybe they don't try out
that's a list of all the times femala was mentioned in liquipedia
mostly just 1 series of a tournament
Geguri
ya ik
Or are we talking women that aren't already in it
geguri isnt that bad
she is definitely a great tank player
but like, so is Harb
and Emongg
they still aren't up to snuff
That's all I could find other than aspen who are active and not casters
I guess most female players of the game are not as interested in going pro
either that, or male players are better
I remember seeing some thing about how when video games were moved to the "game" section of stores rather than electronics, they had to choose a gender, cause, y'know, 20th century stuff, and they chose boys
still has impacts til today
that is not entirely why it is such a big deal for guys
there is also the feelings of accomplishment that you get from it
it fills a certain role in how men tend to think as the "providers"
and lets out aggression
there is good reason to think it would still be most popular along males without that
but yeah, I am sure that also plays a large part
Geguri's zarya could probably make it into at least half of the owl teams
Void is a god
Also geguri is probably better than harb or emongg
No offence to them
But harb hasn't exactly performed well in contenders before
harb did ok in contenders, but he doesn't work well with teams for some reason
geguri is probably better than the both of them though
Could have been part if 3rd impact
but it was icy instead
and comically large crosshair
but I disagree that she is a good enough Zarya to be on the teams
maybe season 1 she could have
but not now
Why is that?
tanks have gotten much better
So has she lol
well, all positions have
you think she is comparable to seominsoo or sinatraa, for instance? or, without cherry picking as much, what about Hawk, or Daco, Zunba, Choi
SMS and Sinatraa are 100000% better
Choi is better cause coach crusty
Zunba was a world class off tank on zarya but struggled in dva metas
so yeah
Daco?
uh
He left quickly
don't remember him playing zarya
Hawk idk either
probably decent
my point is that she doesn't even stack up zarya wise, and teams don't really go for specialists like spree any more
makes me sad to know I will never make it there
You never know
geguri is definitely better than harb or emong
almost certainly
but again, I am of the mind that none of those three are OWL level rn
though geguri might arguably have been season one
not sure about that though
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Given it's kind of justified since any team can work their way towards the championship title this season
Seoul is objectively sandbagging these days
Maybe preparing ?
Absolutely
Preparing for what though - to be annihilated
or for bdosin profit and gesture to simultaneously pop off again when it's their last chance?
everyone carries their own weight on this team but tobi smh
the weakest link is their support line and I don't know how to feel about that coming off a jehong and tobi duo for most of last year
and fits has to be improving behind the scenes
rewatching bumper accidentally walking on broadcast just to feel something https://t.co/8CyfmDQhev
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this happened out of nowhere
My heart
I just wanna see bumper back
As a player
Something must be extremely wrong
Or
People just dont need an extremely aggressive rein
LA Gladiators going for a very interesting strategy against the Vancouver Titans
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he locked the legs
Why’s he using honest baptiste

yeah pretty pog
https://twitter.com/viol2t_ow/status/1288482175650631680?s=21 Viol2t twitlonger
I don’t understand the comments, mans does his best to apologize and explain his side, he still apologizes and he’s even doing this in a language he’s not super comfortable in
Hmmm
Guess that gets auto deleted
I am sure the specific words he used are probably more a sticking point for some than him actually being toxic
half apologise and half justify
viol2t put it down pretty well
i get it
one tricks fucking suck especially a mercy one lmao
Well, few people want to just say they were wrong unconditionally
And frankly, one tricks being at his level is upsetting
Not, of course, to excuse how he dealt with it
bruh fuckin /r/cow malding calling him an asshole and saying it was a shitty apology
like imagine, explanining your own side and why you reacted that way and THEN apologizing, saying it wasnt the right way to react after all, gets you fucking flamed by reddit
reddit is mad ass cancer
its not excuses, its him justifying his anger but then saying he shouldnt have let it lash out like that, which is fine as an apology
Some people view the actions as negating the reason
Which is reasonable in some cases
Whether it is in this case I suppose is subjective
competitive overwatch sub
lol
Ngl the viol2t shit looks like him making excuses
Like it's comp, there will always be 1 tricks and shit, get over it
If Arrge can handle LITERAL THROWERS, you can handle a couple 1 tricks
If it was the 1st time it happened I may be a bit more understanding
That's what most people have done for comp
You'll always find 1 tricks and bad players in comp doesn't give you an excuse to babyrage
just because people do that doesn't mean it doesn't make sense to despise it
You can hate it
I'm not gonna say he shouldn't hate it
But he's tarnishing the SFS by doing this
the sfs is already despised by a good portion of the league for being so good
i think @silk frost is trying to say
he can hate it like everyone else does
but people dont go to the lengths he has gone to recently
Exactly
I mean you can hate a team for being good, but that's 1 thing
But players being toxic on top of that is another thing
the mercy one trick is already being toxic just by existing. I don't agree with viol2t here, but no one would care if it wasn't him
Being toxic is understandable but Viol2t should stop
I mean if it was just another GM, it would still be annoying
But it's not, this is a completely different situation to that
But let’s not forget Hoshi has one of, if not the most toxic subsection of the ow community
By playing for a team, you represent them. As a streamer, you are, in a way, the face of their team. And you have to put on a good face, even if you've got a jackass on your team
People wouldn't care if there wasn't a reason to uphold a good appearance
And an even better reasoning
By representing the overwhelmingly dominant shock negatively, you are representing the LEAGUE negitively
If it was Lengsa, people would forget because he's basically a no one, but I'd still have the same arguments earlier
But Viol2t is an extremely popular player too
Sorry to interrupt you
no matter what apology you put on social media people will find a way to nitpick it and give you shit anyways
theres like 0 issue explaining your side and giving context
i dont get why people want a 2 pages of sobbing so its longer than his explanation
yeah like, no shit his explanation is longer than his apology, a few lines for an apology is perfectly fine - he gave the context, he gave why he reacted that way, he said that he overreacted and said he wont do it again
nothing wrong with that
i swear if he posted the apology portion alone he would still get shit
shit like not genuine enough, too short for an apology, not even a video, fake, pr statement, etc.
Personally I just feel like he's making excuses with his "explaination"
Like of course there's a REASON you acted that way, but that doesn't make it better imo
It just doesn't sit right with me
Fair enough
I think he should receive a temp ban from Overwatch in general, rather than not playing against the free win
eh youd have to do something way worse imo to get banned
Blizz probably told SFS they'd suspend him for the game anyway
2 weeeks would be for like
hard throwing a game
i dont think one flaming incident is fair
what happened again?
at most mute
they should suspend him in the tournament finals
This is his 2nd flaming incident
that has more weight than one meaningless match
oh SFS flamed again, how typical lol
Not the finals, but maybe the first couple rounds
why not?
Idk that just seems like sabotage
I'm aware
twilight's pretty mediocre rn in all honesty
But it feels too far to go for finals, maybe semis even
only reason he was rated so high is because of his season 1-2 perfomance
well? if he does it again, what they gonna do?
suspending him again for 1 meaningless match?
THEN they could go for like a 5 match ban
Ramping up punishments
1st time was a warning, 2nd is a 1 match suspention, 3rd could be more severe
I don't get what the big deal is he apologized & received punishment
twilight is great def on par with viol2t at the very least
although their playstyle is different
Twilight isn't as flashy as viol2t
But he's still easily one of the best players in the league
like he literally yoinked jjonak's seat as best flex support
flashiest maybe
best?
probably not
not with Viol2t and Twilight last year and Izayaki, Alarm, Myungbong, and Fielder in 2020
we'll change!
I wanna see kariv on good ping
here's the problem with that Zalty
if Agilities follows him, no matter where he goes, he'll be on a bad team
oof, i really like agilities
you can be popular and bad
Not in this meta
Y'all seen the Titans tweet
coolio
Carpe is nuts
Saw this thread on a chart made from statslab: https://t.co/Mk3PIU3lFc
I love that this stuff is getting more visibility! However, there's things to consider with these sorts of arguments. 1. there's an even better argument for carpe, and it's his clutch final blow rate:
(1...
carpe mvp
when will the mvp come out
The end probably
I dont think shock will get an mvp any time soon, there all so good that none of them really shine out
smurf??
viol2t mvp for toxicity
I agre
when do the bans get decided
no hero pools
🦀 no pools 🦀

Carpe 4 mvp
Fusion should win a title first
Shh

I think Smurf is kinda underwhelming on Winston ngl
we value opinions here even if they are wrong
then why value them
smurfs winston from what we've seen is on par with fearless
tho im not sure who i would give the edge too
probs fearless since he played a lot more dive, especially against DS in the summer showdown
he was playing fairly weak opponents remember
the vancouver match inflated the stat quiet a bit
nyxl didn't win title but jjjonak still mvp
I think carpe deserves
im just saying the stat where people started calling smurf winston is insane from was pulled from week 25
where they speedran through titans
NYXL won two stages back to back
well no duh the stat is basically inflanted
Philly have won nothing
They have been to the finals
That's not a W
bigger achievement
jjonak vs carpe for mvp in 2018 was pretty much a coinflip imo
tho it was NY until the playoffs in terms of success
yeah remember people thought they were sandbagging for some reason
i think ark did confirmed they were sandbaggin in stage 4
i mean who really cared tho, no one was even close to their record in 2018
NY in 2018 had a 34-6 record with a map differential of +86. They were also the only team to single digit losses that year
If Carpe doesn't get stomped like he did by Birdring and Profit in playoffs, I'd say he deserves MVP
Bro if I don’t see more super genji in the countdown cup imma smack Jeff Kaplan
Why do people just abuse jeff for nothing he has control over

that's a good template for almost anything to do with the OWL especially
Why do people just abuse * insert player * for * playing bad *
because they're not chipSa

Unleash chipsa already smh
yeah lol
everyone hyped to watch more orisa this weekend 
Fusions tweeted that playing Orisa is boring as shit
it is
yh
fuck orisa
A couple weeks of grinding and playing Winston really makes you appreciate just how shit Orisa is.
667
I just started playing Winston recently 7/7wins😎
The new contenders format is so bad
Dm if you wanna join my cute server
no shut up
They put that in every channel 😂
SiNF is now editing for OWL
they got a good editor then
SiNF was rivalling their own editor
imagine the both of them

Who's sinf and their editor?
sin not found
not sure who the old editor was
but si not found is a really good overwatch clip editor
I think they might both be editing
well, I am sure they are
I was just clarifying that I don't know who the editor they already had was
perhaps I phrased it improperly
I don’t know who their old editor is tbh but whoever it is still Pog so it would be weird to drop them
I think both of them would be awesome
they have similar styles
so them working together would be quite intriguing
no, we are talking about the editor for OWL
oh
but thank you for your addition
I know it is Cary, but I tend to just identify him as sinf
All aboard the Polarity Express 🚂
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less than I expected
except tanks
Any games today?
Kephrii accused Gargoyle today of hacking
How is this dumbfuck not banned yet from ow
Getting innocent people banned
Blizzard really is brain dead
Shame
Lmao if gargoyle was hacking he wouldn't be in owl
I honestly think kephrii got a connection at blizzard
There is no other way
How the people who he reports get banned
He didn’t
so why complain if he doesn't succeed
maybe it was an alt and he just thought he was hacking
Because he has gotten numerous other people banned
Dude literally accuses anyone and within a week of him reporting they get banned
Today he accused a brig for walling
and yet people still indulges in his stream
@earnest leaf no widow
Bumper stared at the burger in his hand. Normally, he loved chowing down on his Big Mac like he chowed on these beta tanks like Swon or Muma or Super. But not today. Today, this burger was a sign of his failure. The double patties of meat reminded him not of succulent juicy beef but only the mighty veiny vascular muscles of Ameng. The seeded bread buns? It was Ameng’s cheeks as he squatted on Bumper’s face. The tomato? It was his blood dripping off Ameng’s hammer. The mayo? You know what it is
@worn falcon thank you for making it scroll up friendly
what has Bumper even been doing this year, I wonder? Did he have a strong stream following?
he's just been playing plat games on a alt and feeding
I mean seeing as how plat players can stand in for Contenders teams and be successful, that's not telling us much 😄
For those of you who missed it: https://www.dexerto.com/overwatch/platinum-overwatch-player-wins-pro-match-after-emergency-substitution-1398891
This is not your average platinum player
They should have said it was their coach (on title, but I know, headlines give clicks)
Those people, despite being low rank, have great knowledge about the game and pro's than your casual plat
coaches are still great at the game most of the time
Not crusty 
^ 
Kephrii reported Open Division Champion and General Manager of Florida Mayhem Albert 'Dickomode' @yeHHH for hacking https://t.co/0Ij3KYDEWA
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Wtf is he trying to find from that
I believe many players do not have ranks representative of their skill
as seen from the "plat coach"
Wtf is he trying to find from that
idk maybe only keprill knows
Literally how the fuck is Kephrii still allowed to play this game
The enemy is just better shut up
They aren’t hacking
Does Kephrii even understand this is why no one likes him and also why no team would want to have him play for them (besides being a OTP)? Guy is stupid af
What's a otp?
Why do they call then pony's 😂
The funny think is that so many watches his stream
bro stretch before you reach Kephrii
?
moth playing winston
Oh sweet
I inadvertently fucked my sleep enough that I'm gonna be up for games today
oh fuck oh shit
super genji choihyobrig moth winston
Viol2t bench
Yep
What team skin should I get for cree
I already have Paris genji
YEP Gargoyle too LOL
"yOU dOnT fEeeEeEEeL tHe UrgENcY"
Top tip: You don't feel "urgent" 1v1ing a widow when you're an OWL player against a contenders peak and you're on your alternate DPS account just having a chill comp session after scrims https://t.co/uCLvjTkhOq https://...
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No way man
No way
What’s the games today who’s playing who?
If you look on the site it appears we have Dallas v Fusion and Valiant v Outlaws
Ok thanks
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hmm no Carpe
Personally I feel like we are just giving keprill free publicity
@hidden vault it is
he was no relevant in valorant
where does itbrought him?
back to overwatch
Unlikely
They could just be getting people seat time
Is genji patch in owl yet?
also carpe will probably be subbed in
Nope. Not yet.
Valiant v Outlaws is an LA win
That's a given.
valiant are good, just cant play genji
But Valiant look less bad.
I think shax tracer ksp widow was their peak
Valiant got 3-0ed by Atlanta 🧐
Valiant can only play 1 comp
Honestly bring back rein dva meta
OWL still with the Pro level production
But hey. No hero pools, so let's see what happens.
Rein Dva meta implies Reaper Mei
so who wants to be the dude to tell the community that Mei will be meta
I aint doing it
I've been wondering who reinforce is for like a min and didn't realise they aren't a person
😩
he is
Johnny boi Reinforce
He is lol.
Who needs an observer when Reinforce is analysing, man's got a top down view of the server
welp rip stream
Whoops
Someone accidentally pressed Pause
OWL and having mistakes on Broadcast
Name a better combo
Lol. It's remote production. Can't blame them.
Production mishaps is something I'm all too conformable with haha!
Same
She just dashed into the wall😂
Allows us to say that we have OWL level production
😂


Ooooh!
Jeebus!
Did u actually just do thay
Chipsa to finally see a game
I'm the opposite of happy rn
Chipsa time on Bench > Super on Genji
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I kinda want to see Chipsa play today.
Valiant damn
Platchat call it for Houston, Watchpoint for Valiant
Truly the Main Desk Difference
Platchat Bois just doin it for the lulz
Platchat just need HecZ to sponsor the Valorant segment
Reason why they go for Outlaws
iirc yeah Tmobile is currently only doing OW
Ahhh. Okay.
They literally have to swap out the gigantic T everytime they do teh Valorant segment
3-0 Fusion
but Dallas Fuel lets go
Get some wins
Might be 3-1
ivys back in
Yup.
furys already at 65% for a grav though yeah
I mean tf were philly expecting here
i believe in dive 
no eqo genji though>
xd
nvm they got it
It was good while it lasted lol.
IVY on genji?
Yup
sad carpe noises
why does it seem like the fuel just do not want to play decay
f 4 eqo
Jeebus!
they EMPd right on the edge and bam
Dive > Double shield!
everyone dead
what happened to decay
He didn't find the right angle for EMP and just went for it.
nah double shield is 2 powerful
i fucking hate double shield man
As someone who plays tank, I hate it too.
i love the non mirror comps
orisa is just such a boring hero to watch and play
and almost mirror
I like playing Orisa.
ur in the minority for that then
Rip
That really was
Losing to their B-line DPS
Sometimes you just gotta hold the point man.
doha needs a better team
I’ve never heard anyone say “I’m an Orisa main”
I wonder if Decay benched himself
''i'm a orisa main'' translates to ''i hate myself''
He did. Didn't he?
Tf is up with heesus 4hed
Lol. I'm not an Orisa main. I play her from time to time.
Same.
I just started playing tank a lot more so same
Why orisa when you got Rein and Winston
I think it’s cause everything feels so steady
Me and my friend play Winston zarya
Cause when you shoot you slow down
yh halt is busted
and ranged damage
@viral veldt how well does that go?
just play ball
Id rather go double shield than ball
winston zarya is strong
I mean this season I'm 7/7 so it seems to be going well
Ball vs. Orisa is no contest.
95 winrate
heesu 4head lul
Sweet!
Oh duh I’m dumb. Bubble the monkey for charge
double bubble
Bubble while monkey dives in.
lmaoo we saw winston zarya in owl a few weeks ago
cuz uncoordinated dive even with bubble gonna be a gone fight
Look at that
when seoul fed against nyxl
Another map that Fusion are bad at but will still win
Lol.
Honestly I never get tanks that wanna work together that well lol
Find a duo
i only get fucking flanking roadhogs



for not playing chipsa?

