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clear crane
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dafuq how did they flip

digital cloud
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like, not sure he should have been in the lineup

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but he did well

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I think this might be the only comp Atlanta prepared

raw ermine
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jeez fate

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nuts

clear crane
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LOL

digital cloud
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it was a good juggle

ebon aurora
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that boop on gator

karmic grotto
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_>

digital cloud
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twas clutch

karmic grotto
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unlooki

digital cloud
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well, series over

vale pond
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nah

clear crane
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im surprised the majority picked atl

vale pond
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lets see what happens new comp

ebon aurora
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this is going to be a close series

karmic grotto
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sound is delay?

clear crane
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Johnny gonna look like a genius

pale roost
vale pond
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its not if you refresh

hot heart
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They looked clean af yesterday

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Edison kind of nutty

pale roost
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Jake is gonna laugh soo much after this

clear crane
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oh wait it was jake

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that picked florida

digital cloud
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yeah, but the healing is not enough in the comp they are running

vale pond
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its not over

digital cloud
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Florida out sustained them

vale pond
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the issue here is attrition

digital cloud
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and Reign seems to only prep one comp

vale pond
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its not over yet

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lets see what happens

clear crane
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they lost a map

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its over 🙂

vale pond
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ok buddy

digital cloud
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technically, based off of the whole season so far, it is

vale pond
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we'll see

digital cloud
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if not, that would be cool

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but it is not looking good

vale pond
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its looking fine that was a close map

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and control is fucky

digital cloud
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ok, but reign has only won 3-0 the whole season

vale pond
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okay

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so?

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coincidence exists

digital cloud
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have you heard about Houston not winning map fives?

vale pond
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yes its a joke that doesnt mean it cant happen

digital cloud
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same thing

vale pond
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causation is very different

digital cloud
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it is not a joke, they do not do well at map fives

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they can win, but they do not tend to

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same thing here

vale pond
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thats different

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correlation =/= causation

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and this is a new dps line

woven badge
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Is super on genji?

vale pond
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he was

woven badge
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no like right now

vale pond
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super isnt playing

woven badge
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Wym of course he is KaplanThink

vale pond
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the surprise super sub for erster

next mesa
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Shock is not playing

woven badge
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Crazy, ez ggz for atl

vale pond
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damn

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that was fast

digital cloud
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gator making ameng proud

woven badge
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@next mesa (issa joke)

vale pond
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gator takes so long to get healed damn

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lots of hp

digital cloud
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they have a bad healing composition

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well, somewhat

vale pond
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zen brig is p low

digital cloud
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well, brig does a lot during a fight if you are grouped

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but depending on pack is pretty low healing

vale pond
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I find it annoying when a bap just presses e and they're like great bap play

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its like bruh he got stuck and pressed a dont die button

woven badge
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Tfw when ur a console player so you don’t know what e is

clear crane
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L2

woven badge
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Ah

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?

clear crane
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i dont even know if thats the right key haha

vale pond
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2 seconds after his blade ends and yaki has 20% ult

clear crane
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i havent played on ps4 for so long

lilac solar
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5 minute to def its long, but seems they are doing it !

woven badge
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I hope no ones saying he’s shooting his heal? BIG PLAY

digital cloud
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gatoe what was that engage

vale pond
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atl baited out a shitton of ults

digital cloud
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gator*

woven badge
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Poggers ngl

vale pond
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damn

digital cloud
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clean take though

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erster doing nice

lilac solar
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big combo they burned every single ressource to cap the point

woven badge
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Atl baiting those ults out was a big brain

vale pond
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they baited out 2 support ults and bob

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then erster was free to play

clear crane
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Gator mad at camera

woven badge
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Bqb pause

digital cloud
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Hawk's picture looks so smug

clear crane
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BQB has a manbun

vale pond
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u right

woven badge
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Hawk just stole my girl and my dog

vale pond
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he's cute

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like in a someone you'd chill with way

woven badge
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Comfy couch cast?

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Are they calling the match from their couch LOL I love it

vale pond
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oop

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that was a messy fight

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damn

lilac solar
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they dont have time lol, the point is caped they are allready at the door !

woven badge
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2 ticks and 5 mins left

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Yikes

clear crane
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2CP

digital cloud
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bqb has edison's number

vale pond
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2cp time

clear crane
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jesus

vale pond
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everyone repeat after me

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2 c p

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fun times

clear crane
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dammit ATL u about to cost me money

digital cloud
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holy crap

woven badge
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2 c p

lilac solar
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precision !

woven badge
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gamer grade internet

clear crane
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i dont even know wat xfinity is

woven badge
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Bitch I was lagging trying to watch YouTube LMAO

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Internet and cable service

clear crane
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oh wow its not offered at all in the state of NY

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Verizon and Spectrum has a monopoly on us

vale pond
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did the audio replay for everyone?

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damn

clear crane
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what a clutch

deep wolf
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bad spawns notelikethis

digital cloud
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yeah, but point b

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eh

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looks like a 3-0

worn falcon
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Ratlanta being ratlanta i see

vale pond
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lots of ults

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no chance rlly

lilac solar
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what would you say, individual skill just above or is really a team preparation/synergy problem ?

clear crane
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wat u mean

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in this?

vale pond
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edison is being countered

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and theres no coaching to learn

lilac solar
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they dont have a coach ?

clear crane
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GG

vale pond
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the coaching clearly is the problem

clear crane
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they do

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but hes not great

digital cloud
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and dogman

vale pond
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dogman isnt the issue ngl

digital cloud
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also masaa

woven badge
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They got fucked

vale pond
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atlantas problem is really just coaching

clear crane
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Not sure why ppl think Brad is that good

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he rather speculate on his opponents den work on his own team

vale pond
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he's a pretty meh coach

clear crane
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3-0verwatch

lilac solar
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honestly they doesnt seems too bad, there seems to have a ressources difference, meaning the team doesnt manage to generate them or use it more efficiently

vale pond
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Imagine atlanta with a coach like crusty

clear crane
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every single NA game so far has been a sweep

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this week

digital cloud
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this meta seems to be more one sided I guess

clear crane
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oh besides the battle of texas

vale pond
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its basically counter dps or get deleted

clear crane
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so we have only seen 1 hybrid escort map this week

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lol

vale pond
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oop

pale roost
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bye bye Atlanta .

vale pond
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ok buddy

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damn a wholesome owl ad

clear crane
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Valiant ran this same exact comp against Reign and got smashed

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while Mayhem is making it work

vale pond
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bqb is performing much better

digital cloud
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bqb has stepped up

vale pond
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also is it just me or is volskaya boring to watch

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it just feels empty to watch the map every time

true hound
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bqb got slapped by linkzr

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b4

vale pond
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especially second point

true hound
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2cp is just zzz

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i like koth

vale pond
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koth is the best map to play

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followed by escort

true hound
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to watch 4 me

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playing, koth is ehh

digital cloud
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  1. linkzr is really good sometimes
  2. that was also on ashe
true hound
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linkzr is either super good

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or just

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nonexistent

vale pond
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the classic inconsistent sniper

digital cloud
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I guess

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I honestly don't know of an equivalent

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he is legitimately able to beat the best snipers in the game, but also able to do awfil

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awful*

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maybe confidence?

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like m2k

vale pond
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pine lol

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logix sort of

digital cloud
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pine was just flashy

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I think

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haven't seen much logix

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sounds about like what I heard of him

vale pond
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he fucks or he's p invisible

woven badge
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Pine was flashy cause he knew how good he was

clear crane
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im surprised we only had 1 day of APAC games this week

woven badge
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But he wasn’t a great team player

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Same ^^

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I wish we had more ngl

dreamy cave
digital cloud
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if they reverse sweep, it would alter the laws of reality

clear crane
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Wish they still had Dafran

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but hes off on some farm now

digital cloud
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I still do not know if he was actually OWL level

vale pond
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dafran was fun and flashy

digital cloud
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I thought at first he was a gimmick, but I didn't think about it after the Hollywood grav

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that was just an awesome play

vale pond
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he was a pretty decent player ngl

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like definitely top half

clear crane
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He prob had the best tracking in the game

true hound
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dafran is godlike

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he played for Selfless too

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w/ Sinatraa, Emongg & Dhak

west dawn
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Let's grow dude lol

clear crane
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Grow some plants

vale pond
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@clear crane I mean in terms of owl play

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like gamesense and such

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he's prob better than top half

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but dps talent is bloated

clear crane
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I think he wuda been fine skill wise

vale pond
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my point was more just the sheer amount of competition

digital cloud
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yeah, dps is a tough category to compete in

vale pond
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he was good we cant deny that

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like honestly every dps looks good at some point

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its more clear with tanks and supports

digital cloud
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well

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season one dragons dps

clear crane
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if ur saying if i think hes the best prob not

digital cloud
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I don't really recall any time they looked good

vale pond
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diya was okay

clear crane
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but he def wud have suceeded well

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He was pretty good on Selfless

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too bad they got beat every time by Rogue but no shame in that

digital cloud
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then rogue got washed

vale pond
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who was on rogue?

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this is reigns best map if they win one it has to be this

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this and anubis p much

clear crane
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at their peak?

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AKM, Soon, Nico, Knoxx, Winz, Unkoe

digital cloud
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well, soon and nico aren't washed I guess

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but the rest

clear crane
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Reinforce was on the first iteration of it i think

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along with iddqd and Tviq

balmy wolf
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ATL 24-0 through their wins

true hound
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tviq sadge

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he was so good

clear crane
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AHHH

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rip

vale pond
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c9 lul

digital cloud
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yaki close

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also not c9

balmy wolf
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wasnt a c9

vale pond
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won fight no?

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or just killed everyone on point

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I just tabbed in to a 3v1

digital cloud
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that is not a c9

vale pond
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ah

balmy wolf
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Nobody was in position to touch

clear crane
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gargoyle and fate just backed off

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after yaki killed 3

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not sure why

digital cloud
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it is also specifically for overtime and when the team in control of cart moves off

balmy wolf
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they backed off before he bladed

vale pond
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yikes

digital cloud
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to chase kills

clear crane
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but once they blade came through they shuda at least contested

digital cloud
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but OWL chat uses it wrong virtually every time

clear crane
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cause ur expecting to win after the blade

digital cloud
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pretty smooth push

balmy wolf
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theyd backed off so much they couldn't get back in time

vale pond
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@digital cloud its every time a point gets taken lol

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they were more aggressive there damn

balmy wolf
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Yaki could've touched but he was 50hp

digital cloud
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chat uses it that way basically

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but they are wrong

vale pond
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yeah ik

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I was mostly emulating them lol

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or imitating rather

digital cloud
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I have only seen the dragons do it iirc

vale pond
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oo far forward I like this

digital cloud
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and maybe dallas

vale pond
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shock

digital cloud
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was embarrassing for them

vale pond
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vs reign

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ended the game

digital cloud
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that was not a c9 either

vale pond
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iirc it was

digital cloud
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no

vale pond
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moth stepped off point no?

digital cloud
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they did not get off on overtime to chase kills

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and gator rocked moth off

vale pond
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ah

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this is v different

clear crane
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wtf is this atl team

digital cloud
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they look much better now

vale pond
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they grew a pair

digital cloud
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next fight could end it

vale pond
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edison isnt diving alone anymore

woven badge
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Genji deflects Ashe coachgun and she just flies across the map lul

digital cloud
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yaki is doing work

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yaki is dead

vale pond
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actually targeting bqb now

digital cloud
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erster blade

clear crane
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wtf

vale pond
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oop

digital cloud
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I have to admit, I never anticipated winston sigma meta

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buff dva

clear crane
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wait wat?

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trans?

digital cloud
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give back 3 second booster

vale pond
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another blade

digital cloud
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erster dash was a bad idea

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well

clear crane
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reverse sweep time??

digital cloud
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perhaps

clear crane
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u said 3-0

vale pond
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atl looks happy

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mental isnt fucked

dreamy cave
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LETS GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOoo

digital cloud
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I thought that Mayhem was going to 3-0

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seems I was wrong

vale pond
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also @clear crane you're getting your hybrid map after all lol

woven badge
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Atlanta poggers

vale pond
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being an atlanta fan is stressful

clear crane
pale roost
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What is this nonsense

vale pond
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atlanta got their shit together

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r

lilac solar
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oh wow they actualy won a game

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was it a joke btw jay3 on florida or is it for real ? because actualy he is playing valorant lol

vale pond
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he's a streamer for mayhem I think

lilac solar
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thats weird

deep wolf
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not really

lilac solar
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it is

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if he actualy dont play in the team

deep wolf
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he doesnt

lilac solar
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its weird to pay a player to be a pub for your team when you allready got players

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so that was just a joke

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strange

digital cloud
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just use ults

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the match

vale pond
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genji ult is getting annoying

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blade every fight

lilac solar
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kinda

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genji force too much team to play around him thats a bit boring

digital cloud
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Atlanta done for

deep wolf
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drawable PogChimp

clear crane
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DRAWABLE!!!

vale pond
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I hate this team sometimes

digital cloud
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doubtful with how Mayhem is playing

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but PERHAPS

vale pond
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so much stress

clear crane
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just build up sombra genji ult

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for one fight

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and gg

lilac solar
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pretty much over here

digital cloud
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I appreciate the philosophy of Houston fans

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assume you lose

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then when you don't, celebrate

lilac solar
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lol

clear crane
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ban Orisa forever

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Watching Winston is more fun

vale pond
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atlanta is painful to watch bc of the coaching

digital cloud
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we hope it is the coaching

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if not

lilac solar
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id rather have 2 ban per team for every match, it would be way more interesting

clear crane
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GG

digital cloud
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and

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it is over

vale pond
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this team is stressful

clear crane
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The streak continues

vale pond
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@digital cloud its the coaching

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I guarantee it

lilac solar
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wow what a surprise ZaryaLUL

digital cloud
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wow, Atlanta lost a non 3-0 game

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who would have thunk

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truly an unexpected result

lilac solar
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why so hard with them they were 8-6 its midle tab, thats fine, and they played vs one of the top

digital cloud
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Mayhem lost do Houston

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so

pale roost
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oh nevermind . Atlanta got dumbed

clear crane
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who atl?

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Atlanta cannot beat a top team

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and are forever stuck in purgatory playing gatekeeper

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Florida needs to prepare for the Super Genji

worn falcon
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Next is toilet bowl?

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or can Uprising beat Valiant?

clear crane
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i have Valiant -2.5

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so they better not drop a map

woven badge
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JAWS LMAO

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I love this

sly fog
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A cast with 2 professional lads and one goober

worn falcon
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Ooof

clear crane
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Fourth Impact

true hound
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T2 destruction

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Oof

worn falcon
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OG Third Impact is gonna play in Contendies with other name

sly fog
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Jake: offering good analysis from the couch

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Bren: “broooo”

ornate rose
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3-0 valiant? my prediction

sly fog
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Absolutely

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Boston still boomed from the Super genji

ornate rose
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lol

clear crane
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Boston is so bad...

sly fog
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I want a plat chat cast. X and eggshow cast, reinforce offers analysis when his mic works, and Bren just eats pizza

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Even Jerry can’t carry hard enough to save Boston

daring geyser
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imagine boston beating philly

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I would die

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becuz I have philly tracer skin

balmy wolf
sly fog
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It it respect or trolling

balmy wolf
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both

sly fog
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Super v Sp9rkle 1v1

clear crane
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WTF

dreamy cave
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bruh

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a world where boston wins a map?

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the turrent didnt have any line of sight

clear crane
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Wow.....

dreamy cave
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well that world dosnt exsist

balmy wolf
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actually boomed

clear crane
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That is horribly sad

balmy wolf
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chex looks like jesus wtf

wintry kraken
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I expect fusions to retire any moment

sly fog
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Boston megaboomed

dreamy cave
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all of boston needs to retire

wintry kraken
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Bren'sync

sly fog
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Myunbong deserves a better team

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Lool

dreamy cave
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they play like offbrand owl players u get at gas station doing a rush sell

sly fog
wintry kraken
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I wonder if they play worse than season 1 dragons

young gorge
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myunbong,,, poor lad xD

clear crane
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i really hope he has just a one year deal

hot heart
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Probably not

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Myungbong could realistically play on reign

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And i think it would be an improvement

digital cloud
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that would be awesome

hot heart
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Lets hope he gets traded to a good team

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The man deserves it

clear crane
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he wud prob be an upgrade over Shaz or Rapel/Rawkus as well

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Def upgrade over Roolf

digital cloud
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he is an upgrade on quite a few teams

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rapel though I think is working out well for Houston

sly fog
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who is the stronger Titans support. Roolf or CarCar

clear crane
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i dont think either are OWL level. hard to say

pale roost
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love the couch casting xD

clear crane
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omg

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wow

ornate rose
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damn boston had that fight

clear crane
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i love this couch

true hound
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my eyes

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what did I just watch

wintry kraken
sly fog
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Couch cast is the best. Next level will be Bren eating pizza while Seth casts from behind the couch

clear crane
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that was so sad

ornate rose
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gg 3-0

clear crane
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mcgravy with the edm room

sullen berry
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This couch is a british turkey sandwich 🥪

balmy wolf
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Carcar is fucking awful

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roolfs actually semi decent

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but carcar

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is dreadful

clear crane
sly fog
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Jeez that is sad

digital cloud
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what is he referring to

balmy wolf
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lol

clear crane
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punk wont be on any other team

feral zodiac
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Gladiators legit going to be the only win for boston for the next 2 seasons

clear crane
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usually wen ur on a joke roster u wont get picked up again

balmy wolf
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they beat houston

digital cloud
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and?

feral zodiac
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Ok nvm

balmy wolf
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myungb0ng will get picked up

digital cloud
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everybody has beaten Houston

next mesa
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myungbong should get picked

clear crane
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yea hes the only one i can see

sly fog
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Houston has been progressively looking better

clear crane
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but flex support is also very very deep so who knows

mild pivot
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Was boston vs valiant last match or na

balmy wolf
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@digital cloud his point was "glads is the only team theyll beat in next 2 seasons" but they beat houston so its wrong

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all i was saying

sullen berry
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@digital cloud the APAC teams would like to give Boston a lesson in playing like clowns 🤡

feral zodiac
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But

clear crane
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get rid of Mineral and Huk

mild pivot
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Was valiant vs uprising the last match

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Or not

sullen berry
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Mineral's been cursed

sly fog
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Yea it was last match

mild pivot
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Ok thx ravioli

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I am NYXL fan

sullen berry
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I don't think he deserves the flak he has taken, as unfortunate as his track record has been since OG Mayhem

mild pivot
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And they where getting facked by chengdu

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And I was litterly crying

viral veldt
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What's happening rn I'm watching wwe so idk

sly fog
clear crane
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Mineral has prob the worst resume as a HC lol

sullen berry
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Can't tell ya, I'm at work

digital cloud
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wwe more scripted than OWL

viral veldt
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😂

sullen berry
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@clear crane it's unsalvageable now

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Probably worst performing coach

clear crane
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i think just postshow watchpoint or something

digital cloud
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what about shanghai season one coach?

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who was that

sullen berry
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He only has maybe a total of 8 wins over the seasons, with half of them agaist 0-40 Shanghai

clear crane
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RUI is a head coach

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in S1 SHD

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he was the coach of MY beforehand

sullen berry
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Redemption throughout s2 with chengdu ngl

clear crane
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and some nice finishes in the OWWC

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runner up last 2 years

sly fog
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BostonUprising vs ChengduHunters

sullen berry
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Still the best and only Chinese head coach in the scene that isn't in contenders jail

sly fog
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Who wins

sullen berry
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Hunters

clear crane
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as unpredictable as Chengdu are, I would say they still 3-0

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with Ameng on ball the entire game

sullen berry
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Put ating in, still a better performing Winston for chengdu

sly fog
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Boston truely is bottom of the barrel

feral zodiac
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Is the boston coaching particularly poor?

clear crane
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yes

feral zodiac
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Because on paper the players are far from awful

digital cloud
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pretty sure part of it is the pedo curse

clear crane
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their coaches have no resume of success

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and they decide to sell off the best coach in the game rn

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back in S1

feral zodiac
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Wasn't that back when boston were fucking rolling

clear crane
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for that one stage yes

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when Striker was cracked out of his mind on Tracer

worn falcon
#

Striker was in Uprising and now he is popping in SFS

#

Gamsu on Uprising, doing decently in SHD

#

Uprising have good players, just heir coaching/managing is what is shit

digital cloud
#

I guess the guy who is in charge of esports in the organization?

#

maybe he is a part of Kraft's actual company

worn falcon
#

is a odd name for a position lol

digital cloud
#

I suppose

#

but no need to dress it up

#

that is basically what it is

#

or so I assume

#

"chairman of esports and electronic competitiveness" sounds fancier, but president of gaming gets the point across

balmy wolf
#

almost every single bottom team rn can be pointed out to poor coaching and management

raw ermine
#

Gamsu is in Dallas now

balmy wolf
#

not players

raw ermine
#

Huk needs to leave

balmy wolf
#

hunters are under new coaching and they just beat NY

#

we all know hunters has some of the best chinese players on their team yet they suck at using them

#

and since RUI isnt on the team we saw how terrible the coaching can be to bring down these players

feral zodiac
#

Some of the bottom teams have incredible potential

hot heart
#

Ye

#

But its either org

#

Or coaching staff

#

That are dogshit

balmy wolf
digital cloud
#

she isn't wrong

viral veldt
#

😂

#

Stud isn't a word meant for males tho🤷

digital cloud
#

what

#

of course it is

balmy wolf
#

yes it is

#

you're clearly very misinformed

#

ngl i can imagine that being a title

viral veldt
#

I'm thinking about the female stud😂

digital cloud
#

that is

upper niche
#

huh?

digital cloud
#

not a thing

viral veldt
#

1 sec

balmy wolf
#

stud basically opposite of twink iirc

upper niche
#

Since when is 'stud' ever used in the context of describing women?

viral veldt
#

I can't post oof

grave sable
#

Imagine being tbagged by super on genji

#

I would quit overwatch

balmy wolf
#

super was good on genji

#

theyd literally been scrimming it , wasnt disrespect either

grave sable
#

super is a pretty good tank for a genji main

tropic herald
raw ermine
#

yeah

digital cloud
#

Titans: you know the rules, and so do I

next mesa
#

why

west dawn
#

Did you guys know Hangzhou Spark has a tank player named QoQ

raw ermine
#

yeah, from t1

hot heart
#

Cock

forest raven
#

YEP QoQ

west dawn
#

Lol

raw ermine
#

yo what if Boston gets rid of Huk and signs a bunch of players from o2 blast?

#

they keep jerry and myung

#

ditch everyone else and coaching

#

get kaiser, kalios, neko or mandu (if he's available) and proper and pelican

tropic herald
#

Or pickup a large portion of TI

silk frost
#

Neko won't go back to Boston bro

hot heart
#

Boston dont spend money

gloomy moat
#

how many players would be on an esports team for ow?

hot heart
#

Minimum of 6 In OWL

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*7

#

I think

gloomy moat
#

ok

#

ty

upper niche
#

I seem to remember they relaxed it to 7 'temporarily' but previously it was 8 by the signing deadline.

next mesa
#

yes

#

u are right

upper niche
#

and they've had a number of teams drop to only having 6 at any one time, and have done nothing to enforce it so...

hot heart
#

Thats just the official number

#

OWL dont enforce it because they probably lose money

upper niche
#

OWL aren't really in a position to make forceful demands of teams right now.

sullen berry
#

Yeah teams might never make their money back unless they decide to sell their slot to another interested parties

#

But for now, the teams in asia have yet to flex their Homestand expenses given how they never got to play a single Homestand this season

#

A real riperoo when the playoffs they intent to do in asia isn't going to be a public event

hot heart
#

Hm

#

Shock has made the most money off of OWL yeah?

#

Because if so

#

I want to know what their financial situation is like rn

#

Their squad isnt exactly on Budget

blissful wadi
#

They are probs gonna downsize after this year

#

Drop rascal and put super on dps

humble rivet
#

Super on dps?! They wont

#

He's a much better tank

blissful wadi
#

Oh wait till you hear about their Boston game

#

Also it was a joke

balmy wolf
#

theyd actually been scrimming it so

hot heart
#

Ye

#

I mean

#

For now

#

This is okay

#

But they need to find someone to play genji

#

Or rascal starts to gel more with the team on genji

#

In which case

#

Find someone for the team still

#

They need an architect type player

#

But that doesnt exist

#

Becuase he's so good at so many different dps

night tusk
#

I don’t watched a lot of this season. Who are potentional finalist this season? Fusion, Paris?

hot heart
#

Fusion paris Shock

#

Shock probably gonna win it all again

#

For asia region

night tusk
#

What about the other division

hot heart
#

Shanghai Charge New york excel

night tusk
#

I saw the last map of hunters vs nyxl, loved hunters play there

hot heart
#

Shanghai are probably gonna win it all

#

Hunters are either 19th place

#

Or a decent team

#

Flip of a coin

#

Would be more predictable than them

night tusk
#

So in the finals (including half and such) are both division mixed? Or you don’t know?

hot heart
#

Yeah they are

#

Top 4 teams play in asia

#

Top 2 of NA

#

Top 2 of Asia

#

They both play each other

#

Then the winners proceed to the finals

night tusk
#

Wonder if there is a level difference

hot heart
#

Level?

night tusk
#

Like maybe shanghai is strong in their division but when they play vs fusion they really wesk

#

Weak*

#

Who knows

hot heart
#

Ye

#

So

night tusk
#

Who you rooting for

hot heart
#

Mostly

#

Im a Paris fan

#

If genji is meta

#

We probably win

night tusk
#

Same for me this season

hot heart
#

Or doom

#

But that's probably not happening

#

So

#

NA winners

#

Based on meta

night tusk
#

Even without sparkle i do enjoy the playstyle what the coaches brings to the team. Maybe soon viable. Xzi who can play

hot heart
#

For Asia

#

Probably Shanghai

night tusk
#

Make soon viable*

hot heart
#

Soon nico still serve a purpose

#

Bur xzi and sp9rk1e rival shock dps on their picks

night tusk
#

Nico still in the team lol

primal minnow
#

They mainly play on control maps

hot heart
#

Yeah

night tusk
#

I saw paris vs defiant and I forgat that kruise was released lol

hot heart
#

They've been subbing in sp9rk1e for control lately tho

#

O ye

#

Defiant are a decenr team now

primal minnow
#

Doing much better in a meta shaped around genji

hot heart
#

Yeah

night tusk
#

Still got rolled

hot heart
#

Ye

#

Paris are probably the best team rn

#

Shock did look

night tusk
#

I almost dont know anything about hanbin but he’s peforming aswell

hot heart
#

Extremely clean tho

#

Hanbin was on EM along with sp9rk1e and xzi

night tusk
#

Ye but shock played boston? Xd

hot heart
#

This team is old paris and EM

#

Ye true

#

But still

night tusk
#

I always see that as a free win

hot heart
#

Just from theie coordination and play

#

It looked like something out of 2018 but a million times more refined

night tusk
#

I did expect more from reign this season but seems like their not doing okay

hot heart
#

Reign

primal minnow
#

Reign and Seoul are probably the biggest disappointments this season

hot heart
#

Ye

primal minnow
#

Seoul are just inconsistent

night tusk
#

Always been haha

hot heart
#

When they play well tho

primal minnow
#

One week they can send Shanghai to map 5 and the next they get swept.

hot heart
night tusk
#

Before corona with the home games I already saw the big improvement from paris coaches. Saw some little interviews and the players gave a good shoutout to the new system

hot heart
#

Paris coaches

#

Deserve the utmost respect

#

This team would be nothing without them

night tusk
#

Didnt throw soon away or benbest so its not just new players

hot heart
#

NineK and rush shaped this team into finalists and winners

#

Tbh

night tusk
#

Benbest came what I expect from Gator this season (i did not watch atl tho to judge)

#

Became*

hot heart
#

Gator and hawk have been doing

#

Ok

#

Less than average

#

But ok

#

They were really good last year tho

night tusk
#

So pokpo not playing?

hot heart
#

Dont think so no

#

Benched for some time now actually

night tusk
#

Pokpo gator duo was really good imo idk why they did quit that

primal minnow
#

Has he played at all this season?

hot heart
#

Ye he has

#

At the beginning of the season

#

When edison debuted

#

He played a map

#

Or two

#

I don't remember

primal minnow
#

Ah

night tusk
#

Do you know if krystal can still play this season?

hot heart
#

He's been signed by charge

night tusk
#

Ye i know

primal minnow
#

Highly doubt he will play at all

night tusk
#

Wonder if he can redeem himself

hot heart
#

He can

#

But nero said he wont

#

Till next season

#

Also f for nero

night tusk
#

It is also kinda late

hot heart
#

Dude said hes permabenched

night tusk
#

Feelsbadman

#

Well i hope somehow hunters & paris will make finals. I do respect crusty but tired to see shock win xd

primal minnow
#

Idk if hunters can.

night tusk
#

I don’t think so either haha

#

Dallas fuel Kappa

#

!players fusion

#

!team fusion

frosty pebble
hot heart
swift moth
#

I was reading through boston players twitter

#

they all have shattered mentals rn :(

true hound
#

sadge

swift moth
raw ermine
#

I'd imagine

swift moth
#

first losing to super genji then getting doven every fight

#

poor man

true hound
#

pray4myungbong

#

hes too good :((((((((

feral zodiac
#

Can we pls just remove most of staff team at boston

true hound
#

free all of boston

#

theyre all good players

silk frost
#

looks at halo

#

All?

raw ermine
next mesa
#

rip

hasty sable
#

so sad

torn fractal
#

Big L

balmy wolf
#

ffs

#

:/

raw ermine
#

well, as long as they can play on decent ping, its fine

harsh tulip
#

werent third impact a top contenders team??

raw ermine
#

yes

harsh tulip
#

damn

raw ermine
#

they were second

harsh tulip
#

they were pretty even with doge

next mesa
#

dang it will be online

#

well that sucks

tropic herald
#

He did say later in the thread since it is online they will be able to make it NA and APAC friendly maybe even EU friendly

balmy wolf
#

LANS are very doable in asia tho

next mesa
#

gaming cafes everywhere

raw ermine
#

lmaoooo

#

omg

#

imagine that

tropic herald
#

I don’t know if the way they want to do a lan would be available

raw ermine
#

ahh

#

and a good old VT SFS rematch

vale pond
#

rip boston

#

Titans 3-0 time

tropic herald
#

The only good like enjoyable game i see is the Shock Mayhem one although that could easily be biased

vale pond
#

Idk

#

I think 3-1 shock

#

chengdu spark could be cool if chengdu does well

#

justice outlaws too

worn falcon
raw ermine
#

yeah

#

RIP Microfiber clothes

edgy tinsel
#

everytime i see a twitlonger I think its a retirement

#

especially when u put
"Neptuno :("

raw ermine
#

yeah

worn falcon
#

Well, is a sad story because no microfiber clothes

raw ermine
#

its a natural reaction for all OWL fans

worn falcon
#

but TLDR: Neptuno back to Spain to renew Visa, probs missing finals

#

also TLDR: Neptuno doesnt have microfiber clothes anymore

sullen berry
#

@raw ermine didn't beat spitfire hard enough they want to go again and snatch shanghai's matchup before nyxl LOL

raw ermine
#

lmao

edgy tinsel
#

Tbh they spitfire game was fairly close

#

for some maps

next mesa
#

breaking news shanghai will play dynasty for the fuckin 500th time this season

hot heart
#

Nice

#

And seoul will loose for the 500th time

#

F

next mesa
#

hey hey

#

they won once

hot heart
#

OkayChamp ye

tropic herald
#

Why do some many owl orgs just not be good

hot heart
#

Because people do be dumb as hell

sullen berry
#

I'm hoping other teams are watching the Shock vs Eternal match. Sure, might not be relevant in this meta but they are far from invincible

#

Philly might figure them out

#

Toronto unlikely, but Houston, Washington and Atlanta will might with some recency bias and more time to build a strategy against Super Genji

#

Saying one of those 7 matches before/during/after the countdown cup wouldn't be able to give shock the L will only leave you disappointed for a day before they roll into the Grand Finals as #1 or #2 seed at best

hot heart
#

Shock arent gonna run super genji against teams like paris

#

Or philly

#

I mean unless rascal is comfortable on genji again

#

They have to play super

#

Which they still wont

#

If they do

#

They have a good chance of losing against good teams

sullen berry
#

Rascal just needs to work on his genji again. It wasn't as high as the ceiling sp9rk1e showed so maybe...

#

Just MAYBE

#

They might pull it off again to spoil the othe team's strategy

#

If they don't and ironically depend on another genji that's not as safe as rascal

#

Shock looking more vulnerable since Sinatraa had left - Korean roster all the way

earnest leaf
#

Even without genji shock made it a super close game vs paris

#

Like if they faced off rn I think shock would win 100%

#

No immortal genji and halts to hard pocket sparkle

sullen berry
#

Today is not that week unfortunately - A Vancouver [match] win could be the biggest fairytale moment between contenders NA players vs veteran Korean talent

edgy tinsel
#

Shock arent gonna run super genji against teams like paris
@hot heart they have been scrimming super genji and not rascal genji

hot heart
#

Well then

swift moth
#

yeah its very possible they keep him on genji

true hound
#

bruh i doubt it

#

they’ll probably stick rascal on it

swift moth
#

but

#

it is possible

#

...

#

that they run super genji

short sparrow
#

there is no way super is their best genji player

#

I refuse to believe it

hasty sable
#

yes he is

swift moth
#

ok, but it would be really funny if he was

cloud latch
#

I mean they are going against titans right?

hasty sable
#

yeah

#

Well if they play the titans then there going to run super on genji

sullen berry
#

and I want to see them cry if they regret putting him on over rascal

hot heart
#

Me too

#

Dalton tho

#

Is bad on genji

#

So so bad

swift moth
#

but is he super bad

hot heart
#

Wouldn't be surprised if super genji works

swift moth
#

laugh track plays

hot heart
#

And rolls again

swift moth
#

supers zoning blade

hot heart
#

I specifically

#

Avoided saying that

swift moth
#

super trying to gain MTD as genji

hot heart
#

Genji diff

clear crane
#

Yay I can post pics now

swift moth
#

posting pics is for losers

#

the real cool people dont have regular 😎

wild cipher
#

Super = Genji

hot heart
#

Me toowidepeepo

edgy tinsel
#

They literally said they arent scrimming with rascal genjj

#

genji

#

they are scrimming supers genji

clear crane
#

I would be surprised if they dont play super genji against Titans

#

Florida might be different

next mesa
#

they should still try rascal's genji though because they might need super rein

clear crane
#

Rascal should def still be their best Genji. He just looked bad compared to Sparkle which is understandable

plain bramble
#

Super has the best genji prove me wrong

next mesa
#

give rascal a week the man is a genius

hot heart
#

Rascal doesn't get enough credit tbh

sullen berry
#

man is commonly criticised for being a jack of all trades

#

but never the master at a particular hero, he just moves onto and picks up brand new heroes across every role incredibly quickly

next mesa
#

more like master of every hero

sullen berry
#

I think rascal defines mastery, his capacity even outperforms many an otp on ladder

#

but with the competition across all players in the OW League, he's going to need to be more proficient in some to keep up with a variety of metas Shock has faced without Sinatraa

#

leaves me to believe we'll actually see even more Super on Genji with all this scrim time we're hearing

tropic herald
#

It makes sense, you have someone on the bench who can specialize in a hero? Why not let them and give the other players more time to work on other heroes

true hound
#

Rascal & Fleta are flex gods ngl

sullen berry
#

Excusing profit and hotba

#

hydration just can't make it look good atm, that's a shame

digital cloud
#

what do you mean about Hydration?

true hound
#

Hydration is based god

sullen berry
#

Maid has been constantly defending his role in the team so much so that he says is far better than rascal

#

like miles ahead better than rascal

true hound
#

Hydration?

sullen berry
#

the age of role flex doesn't mean a whole lot but hydration was underrated on tank all of season 2

digital cloud
#

I suppose

true hound
#

OG doomfist king as well as being T500 on all 3 roles

#

He’s damn good

digital cloud
#

personally, I still think Houston needs to pick up a new mt

#

and possibly a new healer or two

hot heart
#

They do

#

Hydration is to me

#

Could be a ball specialist

#

And then they pick up like a rein orisa MT

#

Ez

#

And Winston

tropic herald
#

Mag PauseChamp

digital cloud
#

what I don't get is why Houston runs him on Winston

#

like, Muma can play that

hot heart
#

I would force

digital cloud
#

just nothing else apparently

true hound
#

sign kaiser

#

Free kaiser

hot heart
#

Things that Arent meta

#

To have hydration on something other than winston

tropic herald
true hound
#

yes

hot heart
#

That man completely feeds

digital cloud
#

I think a Western mt might be better

tropic herald
#

Bruh, half the starting line up is already korean

sullen berry
#

Houston should be signing Kaiser

true hound
#

Sign fissure xd

sullen berry
#

but all eyes on Dallas to pull the plug on this team already and rethink their structure again

digital cloud
#

sure, but they seemed to prefer Western players until more recently

tropic herald
#

Okay then sign Decod or Salieri

sullen berry
#

more korean players, the scourge of having an all korean dallas roster is the death of the hardcore envyus base

true hound
#

Well once harryhook is gone

digital cloud
#

Decod or Salieri would be pretty nice

tropic herald
#

Only half of Dallas that starts is korean

true hound
#

Rip envyus

digital cloud
#

Kaiser would be good enough that they might go for him

sullen berry
#

the shocker would be for Dallas Fuel to forget their past, how they succeeded as an international roster

digital cloud
#

but I think he said he didn't want to play in OWL

sullen berry
#

leave that responsiblity to the Guangzhou Charge smh

tropic herald
#

Charge still is international

sullen berry
#

Nah Kaiser nor Harb would ever go to OW League

digital cloud
#

Harb does want to actually

#

he has said it before

#

he was mad Chipsa made it in but not him

#

well, not quite mad exactly

#

but jealous

tropic herald
#

Harb in owl would require the team to also sign an OT who plays dva

sullen berry
#

and Harb isn't going in for a shitty deal

#

he'll know his value and with his experience with the competitive scene

#

only time is biggest weakness, no org would sign a player if they have that esports culture of growing younger talent

#

Fusion would be a pog spot for Harbleu if not Vancouver when we see Aqualini truly redeem themselves

digital cloud
#

I still am not sure Harb is good enough

true hound
#

he just

digital cloud
#

I want him to be but he is not the best team player

true hound
#

can’t play dva

#

which is a big hit

#

Considering dva is meta a lot

sullen berry
#

Harb's hunger for the league is different

#

he's not going around like Toronto esports owner asking for a fight with the then new Toronto Defiant org

#

nor is he dumb enough to go at someone like Yaki from Florida Mayhem and do a 1v1

#

only a true nut would do that and actually get signed to a team /s

worn falcon
#

wait WHAT

#

ta1yo

sullen berry
#

SHOCK SHOCK SHOCK

digital cloud
#

whaty

worn falcon
digital cloud
#

ta1yo

#

dang

#

for real

#

but they have

sullen berry
#

this is unprecented for the Japanese scene 🇯🇵

digital cloud
#

Choi

sullen berry
#

He's finally done it

digital cloud
#

dang it, TI is broken up now officially

#

ok

#

HOUSTON PICK UP SOME OF THEM NOW

#

GET DECOD