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earnest leaf
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the boston shock game?

digital cloud
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yup

velvet hawk
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..

earnest leaf
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? only closeish map was oasis

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even then

velvet hawk
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Grike u dislike Shock don't you

earnest leaf
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Shock stomped them brutally

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with a MT player on genji

digital cloud
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I see none of you can detect sarcasm

tropic herald
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The carter tweet is what got me

velvet hawk
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I still agree tho

earnest leaf
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Sarcasm through text isn't too easy to figure out

balmy wolf
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^

bright cypress
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tru

digital cloud
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there is no way anyone can see that as close

velvet hawk
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You prolly dislike shocktho. U disrespected Super D;

tropic herald
bright cypress
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LMAO

digital cloud
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ameng on the nose here

woven badge
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SHOCK UNDEFEATED WHEN SUPER PLAYS GENJI

tropic herald
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Super has 300% dps playtime of ChipSa

vagrant jacinth
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Hahahha

ornate rose
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super on genji lol

woven badge
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I don’t really play genji in matches REALLY????

digital cloud
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in OWL matches

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ranked doesn't count

woven badge
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Super genji main duh

vagrant jacinth
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Next up, super ana

digital cloud
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maybe

woven badge
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Super is a triple threat

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His Ana? Better than kariv

digital cloud
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honestly, this puts Hydration and super in the same club

tropic herald
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reminder super is one of the only players to play all three roles on a match

digital cloud
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"those who can play an entirely different role and win"

tropic herald
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hes played MT

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Genji

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and Zen

viral veldt
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I feel asleep before shock match 😢

dusky canopy
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Don't worry, so did Boston

digital cloud
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I went to pee, and then came back and it was over

viral veldt
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😂😂

digital cloud
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the audio

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what

tropic herald
digital cloud
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they are live too

vagrant jacinth
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Sick, my router is rebooting

deep wolf
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3 2 1 you're live!

worn falcon
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nice

tropic herald
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!jumno WAYTOODANK

vagrant jacinth
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Big stat

digital cloud
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we can hear the show runner

deep wolf
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productionnnnnnnnnnnn

tropic herald
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wait

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!jumbo WAYTOODANK

young fractalBOT
vagrant jacinth
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LMAO

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I was a minute behind, just got the whole production thing

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Babybay ZenyattaCry

clear crane
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hmm no Shax = no Sombra

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this match was supposed to be in 2 hours XD

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too many 3-0s

digital cloud
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guess they were rolls

wintry kraken
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i expect Chipsa complain that "see, they put tank on DPS role, why can't you put me in more" 😄

digital cloud
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Winston Sig?

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why Atlanta coaches

balmy wolf
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thats what shock ran

digital cloud
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doesn't mean Atlanta can

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shock had

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no competition

balmy wolf
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honestly, this puts Hydration and super in the same club

How only hydration

digital cloud
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Architect too, I think?

clear crane
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Gator's main hero is Rein. Surprsied hes not on him

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the OG GOATs Rein

balmy wolf
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Bdosin .. Profit .. Birdring .. RJH .. few examples

digital cloud
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I don't recall them winning when going off role

balmy wolf
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uh

digital cloud
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then again, I haven't seen every game

balmy wolf
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Bdosin played hog tracer and won s1 playoffs

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Profit has played Brig, Ball, Ball

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RJH main tank

digital cloud
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ok, so then they should be in the club as well if they managed to win

tropic herald
clear crane
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Is this a copypasta from like months ago?

digital cloud
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ah, that dude again

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I mean, it may be it isn't OWL level

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Shock could likely 5v6

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once again, Atlanta's healers get bodied

clear crane
vagrant jacinth
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The goat has spoken

digital cloud
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I don't know

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Haksal is pretty good

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pretty much only reason Atlanta is competing right now is vastly superior dps

tawdry hamlet
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wtf are valiant doing

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they were literally throwing half that game

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round

digital cloud
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letting edison and erster run over them

tawdry hamlet
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not game

clear crane
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Valiant are very inflexible

tawdry hamlet
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wow Valiant played like dogshit im ngl

digital cloud
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seriously, dogman dies like every fight

clear crane
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they had the perfect meta last one

vagrant jacinth
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C'mon, I had valiant down to win

digital cloud
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and masaa every other fight

clear crane
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but each member of valiant is pretty damn one dimensional

tawdry hamlet
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they really need a tracer

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Edison was just shitting on them so hard

digital cloud
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unlikely they would have one that can contest edison anyway

clear crane
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They have one. but den that would mean u cant run genji ever

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or mccree/ashe

digital cloud
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mccree is probably a better bet

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but mccree isn't too great in this meta

clear crane
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most tracer players have mccree or ashe in their hero pool

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shax is not one of those guys

digital cloud
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like, if they had yaki

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they would be ok for the tracer 1v1 probably

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or xzi

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wasn't erster a good tracer as well?

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I remember his genji

clear crane
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he has a tracer yes

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but im saying that with erster and edison, atl can run many different dps looks. valiant cant do that. they will always be sacrificing something

tropic herald
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Erster Edison basically covers anything you’d want to run

digital cloud
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what about Widow or ashe?

tropic herald
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Valiant can’t do that because they’d have to swap out players

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Edison has a nasty widow not that it matters considering she’s banned

digital cloud
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ah yeah, he does

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I forgot

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geez, they are both talented

clear crane
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like right now, with ksp and ksf, they cannot run genji/tracer like atl can

digital cloud
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IF ONLY THE SAME COULD BE SAID ABOUT THE HEALERS

clear crane
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if they bring in shax for ksp, then that gurantees u wont ever see ashe/mccree for that map

digital cloud
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and dogman is dead

tawdry hamlet
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edison holy shit

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bruh

clear crane
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Ameng has to be loving this lmao

tawdry hamlet
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Valiant getting swept by atlanta was not something I thought I would see today

digital cloud
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and masaa is dead

clear crane
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eh i dont forsee a sweep

tawdry hamlet
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unless Atlanta just straight chokes

clear crane
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maybe 3-1

tawdry hamlet
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I mean maybe

digital cloud
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and dogman is dead

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and edison carrying

tawdry hamlet
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but edison is like bruh

digital cloud
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edison dude

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chill

clear crane
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Edison once Babybay retired: im the captain now

digital cloud
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some guy in chat just said all of reign is amazing

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not the healers

tawdry hamlet
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the sticks lmao

clear crane
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oooooooof

digital cloud
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edison having the game of his career

vagrant jacinth
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Do something lav

clear crane
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UNLUCKY

tawdry hamlet
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ooooof

clear crane
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XQC

tawdry hamlet
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lmaooo

digital cloud
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what

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why would he do that

tawdry hamlet
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that bomb

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really be like that

clear crane
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he prob didnt know zen was there

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just did a 180 dash

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to get away from sigma

hot heart
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Tbh

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Edison deserves better

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Sad to see him here

digital cloud
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so does erster

hot heart
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Yes

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But

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What are we gonna do

digital cloud
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demand better healers

clear crane
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Edison was supposed to take this team to the top

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along with Erster

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haha

digital cloud
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they were already good last year

hot heart
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Erster edison dps duo

digital cloud
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they just need to replace the healer

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maybe

hot heart
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How the fuck arent ATL in top 4 yet

digital cloud
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bad coaching

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bad healing

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possibly other things

hot heart
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Teams with potential suffer because of this

tawdry hamlet
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Are valiant just playing bad or is atlanta stepping up

clear crane
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Erster dissapeared

hot heart
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Hate to see it

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Edison stepping up

clear crane
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Gator and Hawk havent played at the level they did last eyar as well

digital cloud
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I would argue it is because dogman and masaa have been bad

clear crane
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Masaa has been good

tropic herald
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these are the valiant and reign we were promised

clear crane
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Dogman is still feeding half the time

digital cloud
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masaa has dropped off considerably

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at least statistically

clear crane
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lol yup this is the valiant that we expected

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in the season beginnig

tawdry hamlet
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I feel like they played better against toronto and they still got beat then lmao

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without dreamer

tropic herald
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ngl reign on brig zen is actually a good look for them

clear crane
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Valiant are a Tracer/Ashe team

vagrant jacinth
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Damn

clear crane
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they have not looked good in any other meta

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Dreamer also looks horrible off of Orisa

tropic herald
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im more confused why didnt ksf do a straight up dash

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it just doesnt make sense to not go straight up

clear crane
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i wonder what's considered worst. Dallas giving Titans their first win in a 0-3 slaughter

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or Boston losing to Genji Super

tropic herald
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dallas

clear crane
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and not just lose but made Super look actually top tier

tropic herald
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any player on genji couldve done what super did

hot heart
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Wait

tropic herald
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he had excellent support

hot heart
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What

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Super played genji

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??????

clear crane
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yes

tropic herald
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yea

clear crane
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i fell asleep for that too 😦

hot heart
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Wtf

clear crane
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i need to go back and rewatch it

hot heart
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Fuck me i missed it

tropic herald
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i bet if chex was on shock and super on genji it would be the same stats but chex with the better ones

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chex is gonna take this hard even though that game wasnt his fault

hot heart
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Yeah

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Just loosing to super genji

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Actually heartbreaking

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F for Boston fans if there are any left after that

clear crane
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Shock play Titans next week

hot heart
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Super genji

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The return

upper niche
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Is that more of a reflection on Super, on Boston, or on Genji?

clear crane
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Boston

digital cloud
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boston

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or perhaps shock

clear crane
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Their fans deserve better

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the front office has completely abandoned them

balmy wolf
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super genji was fun to watch, but shocks dive were clean af

clear crane
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if Reign lose this map they will get reverse swept

digital cloud
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yup

balmy wolf
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oh if reign loses a map they dont win?

digital cloud
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this year yes

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as a matter of fact

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all wins have been 3-0s

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they are getting crapped on right now

viral veldt
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I think I fell asleep again😂

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And missed first 2 maps🤷

jagged crater
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super played genji WTF

digital cloud
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noice erster

tropic herald
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ersster

clear crane
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yugeeeee bomb

digital cloud
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HAWK

tropic herald
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nice bomb

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damn reign actually look competent

digital cloud
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well, they are on track for 3-0

clear crane
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LMFAO

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wat a disaster

digital cloud
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welp

tropic herald
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well i take back my words

digital cloud
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OOOOOOOOOOOOF

tropic herald
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i mean they forced ot at least

clear crane
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shuda just waited for val to come in

digital cloud
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yeah, but it isn't as valuable or pure payload

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on pure*

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plus now they have to complete

tropic herald
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i have faith that reign can hard feed into valiant

digital cloud
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I am sure

tropic herald
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they should just go ooga booga

clear crane
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if they lose

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this is over

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its crazy how they enver won a game where they lost just one map

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ERSTER!!!

tropic herald
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hawk??

digital cloud
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erster

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dang

tropic herald
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wait

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waht

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erster

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he just made a massive play

digital cloud
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WHO SAYS EDISON IS BETTER

tropic herald
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erster got ult first

digital cloud
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dogman YOU IDIOT

tropic herald
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waht is this fight

clear crane
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Dogman is straight throwing

digital cloud
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I do not know

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this is too big brain

tropic herald
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DOGMAN WHY

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wait

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i see

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wait do i see

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ok i see

clear crane
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u can say he distracted dreamer long enough

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for the rest of the team

digital cloud
clear crane
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with that solo trans haha

digital cloud
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lastro

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noice

clear crane
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haha fuck off edison

tropic herald
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damn hawks bombs are so good

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also lastro zen pretty good

clear crane
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that was a bad trans

jagged crater
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thomas edison ma boi??

clear crane
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valiant just threw ults at atl

tropic herald
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that tranc was def a miscommunication

clear crane
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and atl just took them all like a champ

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wow

digital cloud
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dang

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that looked

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good

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like Atlanta knew what they were doing

tropic herald
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3-0verwatch

clear crane
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Does Val have a Doomfist

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im guessing if anyone its KSF

tropic herald
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it would be ksf or apply

clear crane
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ahhh yes i forgot apply is on the team

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Is Apply even good?

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never seen him play outside those 2 maps as echo against atl and then that brig for summer showdown

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nice dreamer. jump into 5 players by urself

digital cloud
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rain clutch

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ATLANTA HEALERS WHY

clear crane
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Valiant is gonna somehow clutch this fight

tropic herald
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i wsa about to compliment reign for that dive but then they just crumbled to a blade

clear crane
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watch

tropic herald
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ksp on the legs

clear crane
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nvm i lied 🙂

tropic herald
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gr

vagrant jacinth
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Wow

balmy wolf
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These games are trash and boring to watch

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Not hating but it’s true

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3-0 every matchup

clear crane
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im so sad i slept through shock

tropic herald
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idk man im enjoying the games just fine

vagrant jacinth
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^

digital cloud
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personally it feels good to see Atlanta have a semi decent match

clear crane
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lmfao Gator is just rollingggggg

vagrant jacinth
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Didn't take the ball threat seriously

tropic herald
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gg

clear crane
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3-0 or lose

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everytime

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BabyBay was the problem

hearty urchin
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BRUH

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another 3-0

digital cloud
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He was not as good as he could be

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but

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it was ultimately coaching

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BabyBay could contest pretty decent hitscans

balmy wolf
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RAIN UGLY OMEGALUL

clear crane
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3-0verwatch

vale pond
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hottest take, kodak's coaching is the diff maker

digital cloud
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we don't know how he contributed

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and they still 3-0ed

vale pond
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mostly kidding lol

digital cloud
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fair enough

clear crane
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We might see Super Genji again next week

digital cloud
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who they playing?

clear crane
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Titans

digital cloud
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that could happen

clear crane
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3-0ed by LAG

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and dalton has been a very bad Genji

digital cloud
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weirdly

clear crane
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To no fault of his own. They have 0 flex dps players

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It’s like making akm play Genji

balmy wolf
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they have 3 hitscan dps

next mesa
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can we talk about how super

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's genji wasn't bad

viral veldt
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Who's akm?

hot heart
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French guy on dallas fuel

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You never see him

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Ever

gloomy vector
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no i hate that i missed the super genji

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he's been wanting to do that for a while now

worn falcon
gloomy vector
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hes been talking about on stream but crusty just keep denying he

silk frost
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are we really at a point where people don't know who AKM is

tropic herald
digital cloud
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to be fair he was a massive disappointment

distant creek
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Super was only played because they were up against Boston

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That’s some ultimate bm

viral veldt
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French guy on dallas fuel
@hot heart
Ngl I thought akm meant all kills matter

hot heart
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Lmao

forest raven
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WHY DID I SLEEP IN

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I MISSED SUPER ON GENJI

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NOOOOO

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@tropic herald WHY DID I SLEEP IN AAAHH

tropic herald
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F

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His stream is wild rn

forest raven
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Holy shit he has 7k viewers

tropic herald
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This guy donated 200 subs and 20k bits PogT

forest raven
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Holy fuck

plucky rune
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super on genji?

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this is bumper tracer-tier bm

tropic herald
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Super is saying it wasn’t BM

hot heart
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I believe

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Some of that

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But you cant tell me

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You played SUPER

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And not mean for it to be BM

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That's just a lie

next mesa
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super genji stats are actually clean

hot heart
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Ye

forest raven
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Why was space out and bischu in today

upper niche
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Unless that's in PTR, that's not fixed.

fickle flicker
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did i miss something or is there not a match this morning? in about an hour?

upper niche
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nah, not for APAC

balmy wolf
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When does this league season end

fickle flicker
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okie thanks 🙂

idle gorge
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superGenji Pog

hot heart
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Mid September probably @balmy wolf

velvet hawk
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I think this week has been really cool and shows how some heroes really ruin the game (Orisa,Widow). So many different compositions were played with only Genji being fully consistent. If he's tuned a little and we just remove Orisa , Widow and maybe Mei. We will have a good looking balance on our hands

balmy wolf
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Widow doesn't ruin the game lol

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And this isnt the first time orisa widow have been banned

velvet hawk
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Yeah but now Brig isn't as strong as she was. And I still say Widow ruins it.. well maybe not ruins but she completely changes how it's played

sullen berry
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How did you contradict yourself in the first sentence

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I thought you're looking for mirror comps if you're implying that is good looking balance

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Easily their hero pool factor of today's matches really leans on the teams willpower who might have depended on orisa, widowmaker or ana as their staple picks

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I think it's safe to say Mei being out is going underappreciated by the viewers and the teams

balmy wolf
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Widow isnt even an insane pick i dont understand how people think she ruins the game

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shes easily countered too

sullen berry
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I really don't know whose more upset against widow players, nor do I get where these are from (backseat gamers?) or whether they're being taken too seriously at the end of the day

twilit parcel
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how does monkey sigma even work?

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is it just to shield backline and have more sustain than with dva?

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also if double shield presumably still is the meta wouldn‘t you play rein to sub for orisa?

tropic herald
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From what I understand sigma is just too strong to sub out on most maps and hold off angles and put pressure on the enemy from many angles while still holding far enough away where he is safe

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Then for rein not being played, he is too stagnant compared to Winston, rein often gets poked from multiple angles and doesn’t get to really be effective unless it’s a map where you can hold chokes without worrying about multiple angles

twilit parcel
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that makes sense

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then dva would be used instead of sigma when you have less angles to cover but more dmg you have to counter

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like choi playing dva against reaper genji from boston

forest raven
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Choi went dva and Boston's brawl comp became irrelevant

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All my homies love Choi dva

velvet hawk
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@sullen berry I support Gz too and I feel the reason you're underplaying Widow is that we rely on Happy popping on her quite a bit( Although his other hitscan is nutty anyway so eh). Widow is stupidly strong, just her being on the field means you have to play the game completely different and even when coming out of spawn you can just be taken out again. A good widow can just counter anything apart from a few tanks and now Genji because he's probably too strong but yeah. Someone like Happy can click heads and get the W

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especially when u got healers like Shu and Chara and a Sig/D.va like Cr0ng Ig

true hound
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nah agreed Widow is pretty cancer

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However I think she’s way more fun to watch than Mei

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to be on the receiving end of a good Widow? It’s super annoying

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Way more oppressive than any other hero in the game IMO, her presence is just too big of an impact and she has such a massive threatening range

tropic herald
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I do enjoy seeing teams use less orthodox tank comps

balmy wolf
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UK? or Portugal
@velvet hawk uk

twilit parcel
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tbh I don‘t really get why widow is regarded to be so op
she is easily countered by just working around cover or as you see in owl put pressure on her with tracer, dva, monkey, etc.
don‘t really understand what all the fuzz is about

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she has no survivability and as a tank player i am very happy to play against widow because you can farm her

sullen berry
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i think it's for her mobility and her synergy in a dive comp

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actually, synergy isn't a great term for it

twilit parcel
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I think she enjoys the distraction dive creates

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if all of the enemies are looking at monkey or genji behind they can sidestep a widow

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but then again at an owl lvl that shouldn‘t be a problem

tropic herald
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I mean yeah widow isn’t op but that doesn’t make playing against her fun or enjoyable

sullen berry
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^ and by doing so, she complements her frontline so you have something else to plan your strategies around

tropic herald
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The problem with playing widow at an owl level is her one utility of a long ranged one shot is that utility can be blocked out for 95% time easily

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So then there’s a time where you’re just better off playing a hero who has more utility than just a oneshot

tulip shore
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Not sure what to do about orisa, she is the only main tank with a gun and only halt seems that op

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But obviously in a game like this a main tank with a gun is going to be best most of the time

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maybe monkey rein need buffs or we need another main tank in the game

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At least one fair nerf I can think of is for halt to stop going through barriers

tropic herald
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Mmm I think with half you should look at its pull radius first

tulip shore
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Yeah that could be nerfed a bit I hope not too much though

clear crane
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Hmm... Did any team last year actually have 3 tank players play the 3 tank roles during GOATs?

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I honestly cant think of any....

true hound
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idk

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most teams stuck DPS on zarya

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cause dva was harder to learn

raw ermine
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Houston

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Spree, Coolmatt, Muma

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they did it only for a bit tho

clear crane
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Yea that’s the only team I can think for

hidden vault
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boston

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at the start Axxiom Fusion and (boston off tank)

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when colourhex couldn't play

clear crane
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Axxiom and Fusion played together?

hidden vault
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yeah

clear crane
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Axxiom has a Zarya?

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hmm didnt know

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Valiant should play GiG on Genji today

hidden vault
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yeah he played as Zarya I think

tropic herald
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Didn’t Blase have to play Dva?

clear crane
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i think rck was their dva

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after they traded note

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o wait but yea there was a period wen rck just stopped playing and blase was stuck on dva

raw ermine
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yeah that was weird

clear crane
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Boston needs to just blow up at this point

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Get rid of Huk and Mineral

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Get someone in there who actually cares about the team

raw ermine
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yeah

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Jerry and Myungbong could be built around

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but they have to make sure Huk doesn't sell them first

tropic herald
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I think lots of the Boston players are fine talent it’s just evident that whoever is running that circus does not care

true hound
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yeah

balmy wolf
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mickie is casting valorant now

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pog

true hound
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Individually, they’re p good players

tropic herald
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Probably should invest in getting another flex that can play the heroes that chex doesn’t perform on

true hound
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yeah

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they can’t really fill in the gaps as of rn

#

they’re both hitscan right

tropic herald
#

It’s not that chex is bad

#

It’s kinda like how striker’s sniper hitscans aren’t bad but you could also just have another player specialize in that half of the position

#

Or how Paris has their dps line set up

velvet hawk
#

How would Orisa be if her halt was switched so it pushes players out? Ofc they would have to do some rebalancing but I think it could be really good at just getting people off of high ground or away from good positions

tropic herald
#

so a better pharah conc?

velvet hawk
#

yeah

#

Pretty much

#

Mini grav seems like a bit much

tulip shore
#

One solution I thought of was to reduce the range a bit but make it more punishing if you are in the radius when it activates

#

So there's less pulling entire teams in the air, more trapping fast characters like tracer that can escape

karmic grotto
#

stfu

next mesa
#

?

digital cloud
#

any predictions for the games today?

next mesa
#

lets see

#

I dont see any upsets

#

hmm

#

reign might stand a chance against florida

#

I dont know

#

depends if yaki plays genji

digital cloud
#

I think they can

#

if they 3-0

#

if not

next mesa
#

they looked good against valiant

#

but it was more valiant being bad and inflexible

#

idk

digital cloud
#

well, edison and erster looked top form to me

#

if dogman and masaa can keep up, I can see a win

next mesa
#

dogman was dogman yesterday

#

kept dying first

digital cloud
#

he was

#

he can have good stretches but

#

imagine someone better

#

for masaa too, he looked great last year but not so much this year

feral zodiac
true hound
#

cashew delisi

#

godlike

clear crane
#

Valiant back to bottom tier

hidden vault
#

i think rck was their dva
that time is was note, probably the 1st 2 or 3 games of season 2 boston

tropic herald
#

Man Ttuba genji is cracked

digital cloud
#

super's stats are a bit wonky due to only one game, but they are still not bad considering

modern canopy
#

ttuba genji is probably what nightmares are made out of

next mesa
#

I mean his deaths are so low only becuz shock is so much better than boston

worn falcon
#

yaki no top 3 tracer sadge

tropic herald
#

Word on the street says Kuki plays genji today

wintry kraken
#

holly throne

raw ermine
#

ahahahaha

#

Queen of Cheese-it grooves

next mesa
#

Queen

clear crane
#

no more XZI

raw ermine
#

resilient hamster

ebon aurora
#

What a final fight that was

raw ermine
#

no

pale roost
#

Let's go Paris !!!!! ParisEternal ParisEternal ParisEternal ParisEternal ParisEternal

#

that was fast !

karmic grotto
#

xD

#

rolled and smoked

balmy wolf
#

Stomp...

clear crane
#

aight i racked up enough salt in league

#

time to just watch this

digital cloud
#

poor toronto

clear crane
#

Easy 3-0

digital cloud
#

this is a sad day for Canad

#

Canada*

hearty urchin
#

what the hell is defiant doing

#

its about to be another 3-0

raw ermine
#

🇨🇦 🇨🇦 🇨🇦 🇨🇦 🇨🇦 🇨🇦 🇨🇦

pale roost
#

not a french guy tho

feral zodiac
#

F

solemn python
#

Paris eternal is not from Paris in Europe right? Otherwise, it wouldn’t be in the North American tournaments.

clear crane
#

they temporarily are located in NJ

#

they were supposed to move to paris after renovations were completed

#

but covid said no

solemn python
#

Okay.

pale roost
#

it is representing Europe as a region tho . them and London Spitfire

#

that's why i support them .

clear crane
#

we need another korea team

digital cloud
#

the patriots represent new england as a region, though

#

and any self respecting person hates them

clear crane
#

Busan being the most desired i bet

pale roost
#

we need more european teams heck

#

only 2 is too few

clear crane
#

only 1 is insane for an nationality that is half the league

#

the goal of 28 total teams is supposedly gonna be 3-4 more NA teams i think, which is def not needed

pale roost
#

From what i've seen the new teams need a strong financial backing from different companies so i guess not many people are interested in European based investitions ? idk

fickle flicker
#

i agree fritz

clear crane
#

but Korea shud def have those interest. considering the amount of LoL teams they have

digital cloud
#

well, OWL is sort of not doing well rn

#

may not be a financial incentive

pale roost
#

in US there are a billiom companies that would want to tip their toes in esports cause they have the money xD but in europe esports is not viewed as something wotrh investing for the future ...

lost jacinth
#

sparkle v agilities

fickle flicker
lost jacinth
#

goddamit he went doom

pale roost
#

it's sad really :((

clear crane
#

yay hackfist

dark hedge
#

i just tuned in

#

were the other maps close

#

or nah

fickle flicker
#

would love another eu team to root for

clear crane
#

control sorta

lost jacinth
#

paris op

clear crane
#

anubis no

dark hedge
#

nerf sparkle

#

too op

clear crane
#

funny how ppl say nerf genji cause of sparkle

lost jacinth
#

paris roster is just..

dark hedge
#

paris isnt even playing xzi

clear crane
#

but dont realize genji is not sparkle's best hero

dark hedge
#

tbf toronto doesnt have logixs

lost jacinth
#

he's doom main right

hot heart
#

Hanbin doesnt get enough credit tbh

#

And benbest

clear crane
#

yup his sig hero is doom

fickle flicker
#

i love hanbin's tank, especially on sigma tbh

lost jacinth
#

what's the rotation

digital cloud
#

nice seeing rein zarya

lost jacinth
#

hero thing

hot heart
#

His sig is at the top of the league

lost jacinth
#

bans

clear crane
#

Hanbin went under the signing of Xzi and Sparkle haha

dark hedge
#

do u think toronto couldve won a map with logixs in

hot heart
#

Widow mei orisa ana

lost jacinth
#

not bad

hot heart
#

Great

clear crane
#

prob not

#

What wud logix have done

dark hedge
#

idk

#

paris has 5 ults oof

dreamy cave
#

Is there a game on rn??

dark hedge
#

yea

hot heart
#

Ye

dark hedge
#

toronto v paris

hot heart
#

Paris defiant

dark hedge
#

its sad

dreamy cave
#

Shiiiiit

hot heart
#

If you dont want to see a roll

#

Dont watch

clear crane
#

thatttt was a questionable emp

dark hedge
#

paris used 4 ults and lost the fight

fickle flicker
#

how viable is genji in owl when ana is banned puppHmm

dark hedge
#

toronto only used 1

hot heart
#

Meta

dreamy cave
#

Wait

clear crane
#

genji doesnt need ana much anymore

hot heart
#

Brig

dreamy cave
#

Paris is LOSING

clear crane
#

need the orisa

fickle flicker
#

that's true

clear crane
#

paris is winning?

fickle flicker
#

saw a lot of nanoblade before but looked good without it

lost jacinth
#

i hate sombra

fickle flicker
#

same

hot heart
#

Sombra is fun to play

dreamy cave
#

That meant to have a question mark

hot heart
#

But shit to play against

fickle flicker
#

@dreamy cave 2-0 to paris on maps

hot heart
#

The one hero i cant stand is brig

clear crane
#

nice emp

lost jacinth
#

fat

dreamy cave
#

I'm gonna have to rewatch the matches

dark hedge
#

why doesnt toronto put someone on brig

clear crane
#

that shatterrr

#

wow

lost jacinth
#

so aggressive lol

#

yea

#

im agreeing with the commentator not talking to myself

dark hedge
#

this is sad

lost jacinth
#

hmm

clear crane
#

this is expected

#

Boston gonna be more sad in a few hours 😦

lost jacinth
#

vs?

clear crane
#

Valiant

balmy wolf
#

Valiant

clear crane
#

but regardless they gotta be boomed from yesterday

worn falcon
#

Valiant

lost jacinth
#

so is it valiant

fickle flicker
#

yeah super on genji lol

#

@lost jacinth yes valiant v boston

karmic grotto
#

comfy couch cast?

#

WUT

#

3 people casting?

clear crane
#

next week shock goes against titans

#

we might see it again

fickle flicker
#

haha i hope so

clear crane
#

Soon has been pretty good on Sombra

#

but then feeded there lol

digital cloud
#

well, yeah

#

at least he didn't pull a Danteh

#

I still feel such rage

#

WHY DANTEH

#

WHY DID YOU NOT CLOSE OUT THE MAP PROPERLY

clear crane
#

i swear FDGod is prob going reddit Lucio

#

hes dying wayyy too much and first

digital cloud
#

sp9k1e feed

dark hedge
#

soon feed

feral zodiac
#

HUGGEEE

karmic grotto
#

shut up

#

you know nothing

digital cloud
#

no u

fickle flicker
#

no u

viral veldt
#

no u

next mesa
#

Yo

#

What's happening

fickle flicker
#

2-0 to paris

dark hedge
#

rip toronto

digital cloud
#

3-0 paris just about

lost jacinth
#

bob got messed up real bad

fickle flicker
#

gg

digital cloud
#

3-0

feral zodiac
#

180

clear crane
#

those 180s are hilarious

#

sometimes he does like 4 spins

#

and still accurately lands it

lilac solar
#

paris paris paris !

pale roost
west dawn
#

Surefour got so many picks, still lose

lilac solar
#

its nice to see they still do a good job even with slitghly different comp and with soon in

fickle flicker
#

hanbin mvp ❤️

digital cloud
#

close game

lilac solar
#

toronto doesnt play bad thou, they show us some good game

clear crane
#

I think Soon will just be the main Ashe

#

for some reason Xzi just doesnt seem comfortable with her

lilac solar
#

if you say that because of xzi main widow they are way different

#

ashe is much much more active

clear crane
#

just based off what we seen

west dawn
#

Feel so bad for surefour

clear crane
#

His Widow and Mccree are prob one of the best, but his ashe looks very average

next mesa
#

Really

#

I don't believe

lilac solar
#

but soon btw play flanker, he is used to sombra and tracer, i dont remember seeing him on ashe !

next mesa
#

He is more mechanically gifted

#

With some practice maybe

ebon aurora
#

Atlanta v Florida will be interesting

next mesa
#

Yes

digital cloud
#

it might be

fickle flicker
#

benbest is a cutie tbh tru3Aww

next mesa
#

Reign looked solid

digital cloud
#

yes, but they did 3-0

ebon aurora
#

true, but against a Valiant that can't play Genji that well

digital cloud
#

if anything shakes them up, it could be dicey

next mesa
#

Against valiant

clear crane
#

these 180s!!!!!!!!

next mesa
#

Still more of less top team

#

But yes it was more valiant being bad

ebon aurora
#

Yaki v Erster Genji

#

this will be good

digital cloud
#

honestly, I think that Atlanta has the better dps line, comparable tanks, and worse healers

#

which applies a large amount of the time to be honest

clear crane
#

If Sombra is play, Florida has the better one over Atl

digital cloud
#

yaki will probably be able to destroy dogman and masaa

west dawn
#

Atlanta 3-0 Florida

harsh tulip
#

florida are just a better team right?

ebon aurora
#

does anyone on Atl even play Sombra?

digital cloud
#

I do not know

clear crane
#

i dont even know who plays sombra for atl

digital cloud
#

sharp, maybe?

#

if anyone

harsh tulip
#

surely florida just roll 3-0?

ebon aurora
#

idk if I've seen Erster or Edison play her

digital cloud
#

I think Florida winning is a pretty good bet

ebon aurora
#

Sharp maybe yeah

digital cloud
#

Atlanta has massive consistency issues

ebon aurora
#

I think 3-1 FLM

harsh tulip
#

atlanta are just a worse team

clear crane
#

can say that for everyone outside the top 3 lol

#

well 4-9 or so

west dawn
#

Erster is gonna carry on gengu

digital cloud
#

well

#

Paris is pretty consistent I would say

harsh tulip
#

paris are in top 3

next mesa
#

Atlanta win against florida

harsh tulip
#

paris are literally #1 na

digital cloud
#

over who?

next mesa
#

I am calling

#

It

clear crane
#

Paris is in the top 3 lol

digital cloud
#

shock and dragons are better overall

next mesa
#

Top 3 na

west dawn
#

Philly is #1 na technically

digital cloud
#

philly still doing better

#

all time at least

pale roost
#

Paris numero uno my boi

digital cloud
#

maybe not right now

next mesa
#

The only reason why they won is genji

#

Yes

clear crane
#

Paris vs Philly Doomfist matchup

next mesa
#

I don't think

clear crane
#

lets go

next mesa
#

They will win against shock

clear crane
#

Sparkle will fuck Chipsa up

next mesa
#

In this meta

#

More like other way around

digital cloud
#

chipsa won't play in a serious game

next mesa
clear crane
#

Shock lost their best Genji and best Doomfist in one season 😦

next mesa
#

Why not

pale roost
#

Paris best team in NA right now . change my mind

west dawn
#

^ Wrong, super is still on the roster

next mesa
#

If it's a doom meta

clear crane
#

ah true ok den just doomfist

next mesa
#

There's no reason not to play chipsa

digital cloud
#

there is

next mesa
#

Who is their best doom

clear crane
#

we honestly might see super genji again next week

#

i cant wait

digital cloud
#

wanting to win

#

eqo on genji is a better bet than Chipsa doom

next mesa
#

If they want to win in a doom meta they should put their doom specialist on doom

clear crane
#

Chipsa can play Genji as well I think

next mesa
#

Yes probably

west dawn
#

Jfc yaki's aim looks like aimbot

digital cloud
#

the doom specialist that is not OWL level?

#

the one brought in for publicity?

next mesa
#

Chipsa has a clean genji

west dawn
#

PepeLaugh

clear crane
#

Chipsa's doom is very likely OWL level

next mesa
#

What makes you think he's not owl level

clear crane
#

hes very very good on the hero

next mesa
#

He is better than carpe on doom

pale roost
#

Shock is playing Florida Mayhem next week . I highly doubt that they will put super on the genji again . unless they wanna get one clipped by yaki

digital cloud
#

I doubt that, but either way, Chipsa has never displayed OWL level skill

clear crane
#

u cant base it off his streams cause streamers who play doom on do it for the wanky highlights for the viewers

next mesa
#

Yeah

#

Lol

digital cloud
#

the game he played was mediocre, at best

next mesa
#

So

clear crane
#

i woudl chalk it up with first game nerves

next mesa
#

He played one map

digital cloud
#

he would not be played over eqo on genji

clear crane
#

i would be nervous in my first game

next mesa
#

Why are you judging his performance on one map

clear crane
#

against boston or titans he shud play genji over eqo haha

#

just for the luls

digital cloud
#

because he only played one map

#

outside, being a good streamer is not OWL worthy

next mesa
#

When he's brought in for doom and doom only he is very likely owl level doom

digital cloud
#

being good in ranked is not comparable

next mesa
#

Who said that

#

Who said that

digital cloud
#

any actual OWL doom would destroy him

next mesa
#

How would you know

#

Has he played

digital cloud
#

it is literally said constantly by pros that it is not comparable

pale roost
#

the problem with Chipsa imo is that he's only seen as the doomfist guy in the Fusion team . for me that is not enough, he needs to start playing some other heroes too, to have some answers if he gets countered in a game . It's not enough to only be a one trick in the League

clear crane
#

Does Yaki play Doom?

digital cloud
#

I think yaki does

clear crane
#

ranked is not comparable to owl

next mesa
#

Chipsas existence is literally just doom

clear crane
#

but thats not proving that chipsa cant play doom on an owl level

#

no less in a mirror matchup

digital cloud
#

if he can, he has not shown it

#

there is no reason to think he can until he actually does

next mesa
#

So stop judging

clear crane
#

cause there has been no opportunity to show it

#

i would wait until it happens to make an opinion

next mesa
#

There's no reason to think he isn't

digital cloud
#

there is

clear crane
#

Jjonak was never on a pro overwatch team before he joined nyxl, and look what he did

digital cloud
#

he has never shown the ability to

next mesa
#

What opportunity

#

He did just fine against the titans

pale roost
#

Let's be real for a sec here. There's a good reason why Fusion has not put him on 99% of the league matches thus far . The reason ? he only plays doom and that's it

clear crane
#

which is fine

next mesa
#

If there is a doom meta where doom is more desirable they will play him

clear crane
#

and there has not been a doom meta, till possible now

next mesa
#

Yes it's totally fine

clear crane
#

he said in the interview he was going to play one week wen doom was practiced all week in scrims

#

but in the end the meta shifted

pale roost
#

say that to the coaches lol

digital cloud
#

look, I have been wrong before

#

I thought genji was not going to replace tracer ashe

next mesa
#

There's no reason to not play your best doom in a doom meta

#

If there's a doom meta

digital cloud
#

but assuming chipsa can be good with no actual evidence is not reasonable

clear crane
#

assuming he is bad is also not reasonable

next mesa
#

Yes

#

Whether you like it or not

#

He's in fusion

digital cloud
#

I assume that he is worse than OWL because he has only shown any results in ranked

ebon aurora
#

Torb is back? 👀

digital cloud
#

he is better than I am

ebon aurora
#

damn it was a bait

clear crane
#

yay BQB Sombra!!!

digital cloud
#

so I guess he can be considered "good" compared to me

true hound
#

tbf ANS was plucked straight from ladder

#

And look where the man is now

next mesa
#

So is jjonak

hot heart
#

ANS showed skill

#

Real skill

true hound
#

I don’t think Chipsa will play like shit if he’s in for a Doom meta

hot heart
#

ChipSa will play ok

true hound
#

He has coaches

#

wait have you seen the mans Doomfist

digital cloud
#

both were actually played, and ANS and jjonak were demonstrably good before

clear crane
#

before where

next mesa
#

I won't be surprised if chipsa pops the fuck off in a doom meta

digital cloud
#

chipsa was nothing special before

true hound
#

??

hot heart
#

If he does

#

Then he's good

true hound
#

He’s been considered a super good doom for a while

hot heart
#

I wont doubt him again

true hound
#

Despite the memes

hot heart
#

But until i see that

true hound
#

and despite the onlookiness

hot heart
#

In high level OWL

true hound
#

He is cracked at the hero

hot heart
#

I wont say that hes good or bad

#

Just okay

grand veldt
#

Huh?

true hound
#

like in ranked his Doomfist is pretty damn good, if they play him in a doom meta, I doubt the coaches did nothing to help him

#

cause yeah obv ladder not equal to OWL

#

but the coaches can just help build upon whatever he knows already

#

Hopefully the doom meta comes

hot heart
#

Then

true hound
#

Sadge

hot heart
#

At best

#

He wont be good now

true hound
#

well

#

we don’t know

hot heart
#

But later on he'll be good

digital cloud
#

doubtful

clear crane
#

if Doomfist is a must pick anytime soon

true hound
#

he had one meme match against the Titans

next mesa
#

How would you know

clear crane
#

Chipsa will play

true hound
#

I don’t see why you wouldn’t play Chipsa

#

If there’s a doom must pick

#

yeah lol

hot heart
#

ChipSa gives me super genji vibed

#

*vibes

true hound
#

It’d be pepega to play anyone else

next mesa
#

Literally judging chipsa when he hasn't even played besides 1 meme match against titans

true hound
#

Ur wrong lol

#

Super genji is for memes

hot heart
#

Almost bm but not quite

true hound
#

mayb

clear crane
#

Shock cuda run a bronze

true hound
#

I’m just waiting for the actual doom meta

clear crane
#

and beat Boston 3-0

digital cloud
#

I have said there is no evidence he is anything better than ladder so far

hot heart
#

Ye

digital cloud
#

if and when he is played seriously in a doomfist meta and does well, great

true hound
#

give me chipsa or give me death

next mesa
#

You said if fusion wanted to win they will never play chipsa

clear crane
#

no evidence = u cant call someone bad

true hound
#

he’s the best doom on the team ecksdee

hot heart
#

No evidence you cant call someone good

digital cloud
#

because eqo genji is still a better option

clear crane
#

no one is calling him good

#

u cant make a judgement

true hound
#

genji will probs be pooled soon tho

next mesa
#

I think saying chipsas doom is not owl level is a stretch when he's signed just to play doom

digital cloud
#

I can based off of Eqo being a proven good player and Chipsa not being proven

pale roost
#

C'mon florida i believe in ya . you got this

next mesa
#

And his doom is better than carpe who's doom is owl level

true hound
#

does Carpe even play doom

next mesa
#

Yes

digital cloud
#

since when did carpe ever play doom

true hound
#

idk

#

he’s a hitscan man

next mesa
#

He did in the doom reaper and doom mei

#

Meta

digital cloud
#

I doubt that was what they would have preferred

clear crane
#

Carpe can play everything

#

His Widow and Tracer are just another level

#

every dps

#

not Zarya

digital cloud
#

certainly he probably is a great dps on all characters, but that doesn't mean all are OWL level

clear crane
#

get the fuck ont the point!

ebon aurora
#

this is great

digital cloud
#

this has been a hectic map

ebon aurora
#

wtf is going on

#

that's back-to-back backcaps in won fights for the other team

next mesa
#

Fusion has problem

clear crane
#

I am very positive Carpe can play every dps at an owl level

next mesa
#

Which is that carpe is their best tracer widow and ashe

clear crane
#

if not, den 90% of them haha

next mesa
#

Same

clear crane
#

guy is the Faker of OW

next mesa
#

He is mvp candidate

digital cloud
#

he is definitely very talented

clear crane
#

ooo great zoning

digital cloud
#

dang, this match looks like it may be like a 3-2 slugfest

clear crane
#

if Atl loses this map GG

lilac solar
#

prety interactive game

clear crane
#

can give Florida the win

vale pond
#

this will probably be the first atl map loss win

#

provided no booming

clear crane
#

Babybay was the problem

digital cloud
#

eh

vale pond
#

oop

digital cloud
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Babybay did better than we gave him credit for

vale pond
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^

digital cloud
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Atlanta has basically no healing with this comp

next mesa
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I don't think babybay was problem

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Support lineup kinda scuffed