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yup
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Grike u dislike Shock don't you
I see none of you can detect sarcasm
The carter tweet is what got me
I still agree tho
Sarcasm through text isn't too easy to figure out
^
tru
there is no way anyone can see that as close
You prolly dislike shocktho. U disrespected Super D;
LMAO
ameng on the nose here
SHOCK UNDEFEATED WHEN SUPER PLAYS GENJI
Super has 300% dps playtime of ChipSa
Hahahha
super on genji lol
I don’t really play genji in matches REALLY????
Super genji main duh
Next up, super ana
maybe
honestly, this puts Hydration and super in the same club
reminder super is one of the only players to play all three roles on a match
"those who can play an entirely different role and win"
I feel asleep before shock match 😢
Don't worry, so did Boston
I went to pee, and then came back and it was over
😂😂

they are live too
Sick, my router is rebooting
3 2 1 you're live!
nice
!jumno 
Big stat
we can hear the show runner
productionnnnnnnnnnnn
guess they were rolls
i expect Chipsa complain that "see, they put tank on DPS role, why can't you put me in more" 😄
thats what shock ran
honestly, this puts Hydration and super in the same club
How only hydration
Architect too, I think?
Bdosin .. Profit .. Birdring .. RJH .. few examples
I don't recall them winning when going off role
uh
then again, I haven't seen every game
Bdosin played hog tracer and won s1 playoffs
Profit has played Brig, Ball, Ball
RJH main tank
ok, so then they should be in the club as well if they managed to win
Super's genji now is not OWL level, as fanboy-triggering as that sounds. People love him for his vibrant brand/personality, but expecting him to play genji in a match is very unrealistic. I'd honestly advise Shock to sell Architect and then rebuild.
110
Is this a copypasta from like months ago?
ah, that dude again
I mean, it may be it isn't OWL level
Shock could likely 5v6
once again, Atlanta's healers get bodied
The goat has spoken
I don't know
Haksal is pretty good
pretty much only reason Atlanta is competing right now is vastly superior dps
letting edison and erster run over them
not game
Valiant are very inflexible
wow Valiant played like dogshit im ngl
seriously, dogman dies like every fight
they had the perfect meta last one
C'mon, I had valiant down to win
and masaa every other fight
but each member of valiant is pretty damn one dimensional
unlikely they would have one that can contest edison anyway
most tracer players have mccree or ashe in their hero pool
shax is not one of those guys
like, if they had yaki
they would be ok for the tracer 1v1 probably
or xzi
wasn't erster a good tracer as well?
I remember his genji
he has a tracer yes
but im saying that with erster and edison, atl can run many different dps looks. valiant cant do that. they will always be sacrificing something
Erster Edison basically covers anything you’d want to run
what about Widow or ashe?
Valiant can’t do that because they’d have to swap out players
Edison has a nasty widow not that it matters considering she’s banned
like right now, with ksp and ksf, they cannot run genji/tracer like atl can
IF ONLY THE SAME COULD BE SAID ABOUT THE HEALERS
if they bring in shax for ksp, then that gurantees u wont ever see ashe/mccree for that map
and dogman is dead
Ameng has to be loving this lmao
Valiant getting swept by atlanta was not something I thought I would see today
and masaa is dead
eh i dont forsee a sweep
unless Atlanta just straight chokes
maybe 3-1
I mean maybe
but edison is like bruh
Edison once Babybay retired: im the captain now
the sticks lmao
oooooooof
edison having the game of his career
Do something lav
UNLUCKY
ooooof
XQC
lmaooo
so does erster
demand better healers
they were already good last year
Erster edison dps duo
How the fuck arent ATL in top 4 yet
Teams with potential suffer because of this
Are valiant just playing bad or is atlanta stepping up
Erster dissapeared
Gator and Hawk havent played at the level they did last eyar as well
I would argue it is because dogman and masaa have been bad
Masaa has been good
these are the valiant and reign we were promised
Dogman is still feeding half the time
I feel like they played better against toronto and they still got beat then lmao
without dreamer
ngl reign on brig zen is actually a good look for them
Valiant are a Tracer/Ashe team
Damn
they have not looked good in any other meta
Dreamer also looks horrible off of Orisa
im more confused why didnt ksf do a straight up dash
it just doesnt make sense to not go straight up
i wonder what's considered worst. Dallas giving Titans their first win in a 0-3 slaughter
or Boston losing to Genji Super
dallas
and not just lose but made Super look actually top tier
any player on genji couldve done what super did
Wait
he had excellent support
yes
yea
i fell asleep for that too 😦
Wtf
i need to go back and rewatch it
Fuck me i missed it
i bet if chex was on shock and super on genji it would be the same stats but chex with the better ones
chex is gonna take this hard even though that game wasnt his fault
Yeah
Just loosing to super genji
Actually heartbreaking
F for Boston fans if there are any left after that
Is that more of a reflection on Super, on Boston, or on Genji?
Boston
super genji was fun to watch, but shocks dive were clean af
if Reign lose this map they will get reverse swept
yup
oh if reign loses a map they dont win?
this year yes
as a matter of fact
all wins have been 3-0s
they are getting crapped on right now
super played genji WTF
noice erster
ersster
yugeeeee bomb
HAWK
well, they are on track for 3-0
welp
well i take back my words
OOOOOOOOOOOOF
i mean they forced ot at least
shuda just waited for val to come in
yeah, but it isn't as valuable or pure payload
on pure*
plus now they have to complete
i have faith that reign can hard feed into valiant
I am sure
they should just go ooga booga
if they lose
this is over
its crazy how they enver won a game where they lost just one map
ERSTER!!!
hawk??
WHO SAYS EDISON IS BETTER
erster got ult first
dogman YOU IDIOT
waht is this fight
Dogman is straight throwing

with that solo trans haha
haha fuck off edison
that was a bad trans
thomas edison ma boi??
valiant just threw ults at atl
that tranc was def a miscommunication
3-0verwatch
it would be ksf or apply
ahhh yes i forgot apply is on the team
Is Apply even good?
never seen him play outside those 2 maps as echo against atl and then that brig for summer showdown
nice dreamer. jump into 5 players by urself
Valiant is gonna somehow clutch this fight
i wsa about to compliment reign for that dive but then they just crumbled to a blade
watch
ksp on the legs
nvm i lied 🙂
Wow
These games are trash and boring to watch
Not hating but it’s true
3-0 every matchup
im so sad i slept through shock
idk man im enjoying the games just fine
^
personally it feels good to see Atlanta have a semi decent match
lmfao Gator is just rollingggggg
Didn't take the ball threat seriously
gg
He was not as good as he could be
but
it was ultimately coaching
BabyBay could contest pretty decent hitscans
RAIN UGLY OMEGALUL
3-0verwatch
hottest take, kodak's coaching is the diff maker
mostly kidding lol
fair enough
We might see Super Genji again next week
who they playing?
Titans
that could happen
weirdly
To no fault of his own. They have 0 flex dps players
It’s like making akm play Genji
they have 3 hitscan dps
Who's akm?
no i hate that i missed the super genji
he's been wanting to do that for a while now
@gloomy vector yep https://twitter.com/ShockCrusty/status/1284636116675473409?s=19
hes been talking about on stream but crusty just keep denying he
are we really at a point where people don't know who AKM is

to be fair he was a massive disappointment
French guy on dallas fuel
@hot heart
Ngl I thought akm meant all kills matter
Lmao
WHY DID I SLEEP IN
I MISSED SUPER ON GENJI
NOOOOO
@tropic herald WHY DID I SLEEP IN AAAHH
Holy shit he has 7k viewers
This guy donated 200 subs and 20k bits 
Holy fuck
Super is saying it wasn’t BM
I believe
Some of that
But you cant tell me
You played SUPER
And not mean for it to be BM
That's just a lie
super genji stats are actually clean
Ye
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/678067506694324265/734280346673086534/unknown.png
can we talk about this
Why was space out and bischu in today
Unless that's in PTR, that's not fixed.
did i miss something or is there not a match this morning? in about an hour?
nah, not for APAC
When does this league season end
okie thanks 🙂
superGenji Pog
Mid September probably @balmy wolf
I think this week has been really cool and shows how some heroes really ruin the game (Orisa,Widow). So many different compositions were played with only Genji being fully consistent. If he's tuned a little and we just remove Orisa , Widow and maybe Mei. We will have a good looking balance on our hands
Widow doesn't ruin the game lol
And this isnt the first time orisa widow have been banned
Yeah but now Brig isn't as strong as she was. And I still say Widow ruins it.. well maybe not ruins but she completely changes how it's played
How did you contradict yourself in the first sentence
I thought you're looking for mirror comps if you're implying that is good looking balance
Easily their hero pool factor of today's matches really leans on the teams willpower who might have depended on orisa, widowmaker or ana as their staple picks
I think it's safe to say Mei being out is going underappreciated by the viewers and the teams
Widow isnt even an insane pick i dont understand how people think she ruins the game
shes easily countered too
I really don't know whose more upset against widow players, nor do I get where these are from (backseat gamers?) or whether they're being taken too seriously at the end of the day
how does monkey sigma even work?
is it just to shield backline and have more sustain than with dva?
also if double shield presumably still is the meta wouldn‘t you play rein to sub for orisa?
From what I understand sigma is just too strong to sub out on most maps and hold off angles and put pressure on the enemy from many angles while still holding far enough away where he is safe
Then for rein not being played, he is too stagnant compared to Winston, rein often gets poked from multiple angles and doesn’t get to really be effective unless it’s a map where you can hold chokes without worrying about multiple angles
that makes sense
then dva would be used instead of sigma when you have less angles to cover but more dmg you have to counter
like choi playing dva against reaper genji from boston
Choi went dva and Boston's brawl comp became irrelevant
All my homies love Choi dva
@sullen berry I support Gz too and I feel the reason you're underplaying Widow is that we rely on Happy popping on her quite a bit( Although his other hitscan is nutty anyway so eh). Widow is stupidly strong, just her being on the field means you have to play the game completely different and even when coming out of spawn you can just be taken out again. A good widow can just counter anything apart from a few tanks and now Genji because he's probably too strong but yeah. Someone like Happy can click heads and get the W
especially when u got healers like Shu and Chara and a Sig/D.va like Cr0ng Ig
nah agreed Widow is pretty cancer
However I think she’s way more fun to watch than Mei
to be on the receiving end of a good Widow? It’s super annoying
Way more oppressive than any other hero in the game IMO, her presence is just too big of an impact and she has such a massive threatening range
I do enjoy seeing teams use less orthodox tank comps
UK? or Portugal
@velvet hawk uk
tbh I don‘t really get why widow is regarded to be so op
she is easily countered by just working around cover or as you see in owl put pressure on her with tracer, dva, monkey, etc.
don‘t really understand what all the fuzz is about
she has no survivability and as a tank player i am very happy to play against widow because you can farm her
i think it's for her mobility and her synergy in a dive comp
actually, synergy isn't a great term for it
I think she enjoys the distraction dive creates
if all of the enemies are looking at monkey or genji behind they can sidestep a widow
but then again at an owl lvl that shouldn‘t be a problem
I mean yeah widow isn’t op but that doesn’t make playing against her fun or enjoyable
^ and by doing so, she complements her frontline so you have something else to plan your strategies around
The problem with playing widow at an owl level is her one utility of a long ranged one shot is that utility can be blocked out for 95% time easily
So then there’s a time where you’re just better off playing a hero who has more utility than just a oneshot
Not sure what to do about orisa, she is the only main tank with a gun and only halt seems that op
But obviously in a game like this a main tank with a gun is going to be best most of the time
maybe monkey rein need buffs or we need another main tank in the game
At least one fair nerf I can think of is for halt to stop going through barriers
Mmm I think with half you should look at its pull radius first
Yeah that could be nerfed a bit I hope not too much though
Hmm... Did any team last year actually have 3 tank players play the 3 tank roles during GOATs?
I honestly cant think of any....
Yea that’s the only team I can think for
boston
at the start Axxiom Fusion and (boston off tank)
when colourhex couldn't play
Axxiom and Fusion played together?
yeah
yeah he played as Zarya I think
Didn’t Blase have to play Dva?
i think rck was their dva
after they traded note
o wait but yea there was a period wen rck just stopped playing and blase was stuck on dva
yeah that was weird
Boston needs to just blow up at this point
Get rid of Huk and Mineral
Get someone in there who actually cares about the team
yeah
Jerry and Myungbong could be built around
but they have to make sure Huk doesn't sell them first
I think lots of the Boston players are fine talent it’s just evident that whoever is running that circus does not care
yeah
Individually, they’re p good players
Probably should invest in getting another flex that can play the heroes that chex doesn’t perform on
It’s not that chex is bad
It’s kinda like how striker’s sniper hitscans aren’t bad but you could also just have another player specialize in that half of the position
Or how Paris has their dps line set up
How would Orisa be if her halt was switched so it pushes players out? Ofc they would have to do some rebalancing but I think it could be really good at just getting people off of high ground or away from good positions
so a better pharah conc?
One solution I thought of was to reduce the range a bit but make it more punishing if you are in the radius when it activates
So there's less pulling entire teams in the air, more trapping fast characters like tracer that can escape
stfu
?
any predictions for the games today?
lets see
I dont see any upsets
hmm
reign might stand a chance against florida
I dont know
depends if yaki plays genji
they looked good against valiant
but it was more valiant being bad and inflexible
idk
well, edison and erster looked top form to me
if dogman and masaa can keep up, I can see a win
he was
he can have good stretches but
imagine someone better
for masaa too, he looked great last year but not so much this year
Just saying
Valiant back to bottom tier
i think rck was their dva
that time is was note, probably the 1st 2 or 3 games of season 2 boston
Man Ttuba genji is cracked
super's stats are a bit wonky due to only one game, but they are still not bad considering
ttuba genji is probably what nightmares are made out of
I mean his deaths are so low only becuz shock is so much better than boston
yaki no top 3 tracer sadge
holly throne
Queen
no more XZI
resilient hamster
What a final fight that was
no
Stomp...
poor toronto
Easy 3-0
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Paris eternal is not from Paris in Europe right? Otherwise, it wouldn’t be in the North American tournaments.
they temporarily are located in NJ
they were supposed to move to paris after renovations were completed
but covid said no
Okay.
it is representing Europe as a region tho . them and London Spitfire
that's why i support them .
we need another korea team
the patriots represent new england as a region, though
and any self respecting person hates them
Busan being the most desired i bet
only 1 is insane for an nationality that is half the league
the goal of 28 total teams is supposedly gonna be 3-4 more NA teams i think, which is def not needed
From what i've seen the new teams need a strong financial backing from different companies so i guess not many people are interested in European based investitions ? idk
i agree fritz
but Korea shud def have those interest. considering the amount of LoL teams they have
in US there are a billiom companies that would want to tip their toes in esports cause they have the money xD but in europe esports is not viewed as something wotrh investing for the future ...
sparkle v agilities
it's sad really :((
yay hackfist
would love another eu team to root for
control sorta
paris op
anubis no
funny how ppl say nerf genji cause of sparkle
paris roster is just..
paris isnt even playing xzi
but dont realize genji is not sparkle's best hero
tbf toronto doesnt have logixs
he's doom main right
yup his sig hero is doom
i love hanbin's tank, especially on sigma tbh
what's the rotation
nice seeing rein zarya
hero thing
His sig is at the top of the league
bans
Hanbin went under the signing of Xzi and Sparkle haha
do u think toronto couldve won a map with logixs in
Widow mei orisa ana
not bad
Great
Is there a game on rn??
yea
Ye
toronto v paris
Paris defiant
its sad
Shiiiiit
thatttt was a questionable emp
paris used 4 ults and lost the fight
how viable is genji in owl when ana is banned 
toronto only used 1
Meta
Wait
genji doesnt need ana much anymore
Brig
Paris is LOSING
need the orisa
that's true
paris is winning?
saw a lot of nanoblade before but looked good without it
i hate sombra
same
Sombra is fun to play
That meant to have a question mark
But shit to play against
@dreamy cave 2-0 to paris on maps
The one hero i cant stand is brig
nice emp
fat
I'm gonna have to rewatch the matches
why doesnt toronto put someone on brig
this is sad
hmm
vs?
Valiant
Valiant
but regardless they gotta be boomed from yesterday
Valiant
so is it valiant
haha i hope so
well, yeah
at least he didn't pull a Danteh
I still feel such rage
WHY DANTEH
WHY DID YOU NOT CLOSE OUT THE MAP PROPERLY
sp9k1e feed
soon feed
HUGGEEE
no u
no u
no u
2-0 to paris
rip toronto
3-0 paris just about
bob got messed up real bad
gg
3-0
180
those 180s are hilarious
sometimes he does like 4 spins
and still accurately lands it
paris paris paris !

Surefour got so many picks, still lose
its nice to see they still do a good job even with slitghly different comp and with soon in
hanbin mvp ❤️
close game
toronto doesnt play bad thou, they show us some good game
I think Soon will just be the main Ashe
for some reason Xzi just doesnt seem comfortable with her
if you say that because of xzi main widow they are way different
ashe is much much more active
just based off what we seen
Feel so bad for surefour
His Widow and Mccree are prob one of the best, but his ashe looks very average
but soon btw play flanker, he is used to sombra and tracer, i dont remember seeing him on ashe !
Atlanta v Florida will be interesting
Yes
it might be
benbest is a cutie tbh 
Reign looked solid
yes, but they did 3-0
true, but against a Valiant that can't play Genji that well
if anything shakes them up, it could be dicey
Against valiant
these 180s!!!!!!!!
honestly, I think that Atlanta has the better dps line, comparable tanks, and worse healers
which applies a large amount of the time to be honest
If Sombra is play, Florida has the better one over Atl
yaki will probably be able to destroy dogman and masaa
Atlanta 3-0 Florida
florida are just a better team right?
does anyone on Atl even play Sombra?
I do not know
i dont even know who plays sombra for atl
surely florida just roll 3-0?
idk if I've seen Erster or Edison play her
I think Florida winning is a pretty good bet
Sharp maybe yeah
Atlanta has massive consistency issues
I think 3-1 FLM
atlanta are just a worse team
Erster is gonna carry on gengu
paris are in top 3
Atlanta win against florida
paris are literally #1 na
over who?
Paris is in the top 3 lol
shock and dragons are better overall
Top 3 na
Philly is #1 na technically
Paris numero uno my boi
maybe not right now
Paris vs Philly Doomfist matchup
I don't think
lets go
They will win against shock
Sparkle will fuck Chipsa up
chipsa won't play in a serious game

Shock lost their best Genji and best Doomfist in one season 😦
Why not
Paris best team in NA right now . change my mind
^ Wrong, super is still on the roster
If it's a doom meta
ah true ok den just doomfist
There's no reason not to play chipsa
there is
Who is their best doom
If they want to win in a doom meta they should put their doom specialist on doom
Chipsa can play Genji as well I think
Yes probably
Jfc yaki's aim looks like aimbot
Chipsa has a clean genji
PepeLaugh
Chipsa's doom is very likely OWL level
What makes you think he's not owl level
hes very very good on the hero
He is better than carpe on doom
Shock is playing Florida Mayhem next week . I highly doubt that they will put super on the genji again . unless they wanna get one clipped by yaki
I doubt that, but either way, Chipsa has never displayed OWL level skill
u cant base it off his streams cause streamers who play doom on do it for the wanky highlights for the viewers
the game he played was mediocre, at best
So
i woudl chalk it up with first game nerves
He played one map
he would not be played over eqo on genji
i would be nervous in my first game
Why are you judging his performance on one map
When he's brought in for doom and doom only he is very likely owl level doom
being good in ranked is not comparable
any actual OWL doom would destroy him
it is literally said constantly by pros that it is not comparable
the problem with Chipsa imo is that he's only seen as the doomfist guy in the Fusion team . for me that is not enough, he needs to start playing some other heroes too, to have some answers if he gets countered in a game . It's not enough to only be a one trick in the League
Does Yaki play Doom?
I think yaki does
ranked is not comparable to owl
Chipsas existence is literally just doom
but thats not proving that chipsa cant play doom on an owl level
no less in a mirror matchup
if he can, he has not shown it
there is no reason to think he can until he actually does
So stop judging
cause there has been no opportunity to show it
i would wait until it happens to make an opinion
There's no reason to think he isn't
there is
Jjonak was never on a pro overwatch team before he joined nyxl, and look what he did
he has never shown the ability to
Let's be real for a sec here. There's a good reason why Fusion has not put him on 99% of the league matches thus far . The reason ? he only plays doom and that's it
which is fine
If there is a doom meta where doom is more desirable they will play him
and there has not been a doom meta, till possible now
Yes it's totally fine
he said in the interview he was going to play one week wen doom was practiced all week in scrims
but in the end the meta shifted
say that to the coaches lol
look, I have been wrong before
I thought genji was not going to replace tracer ashe
but assuming chipsa can be good with no actual evidence is not reasonable
assuming he is bad is also not reasonable
I assume that he is worse than OWL because he has only shown any results in ranked
Torb is back? 👀
he is better than I am
damn it was a bait
yay BQB Sombra!!!
so I guess he can be considered "good" compared to me
So is jjonak
I don’t think Chipsa will play like shit if he’s in for a Doom meta
ChipSa will play ok
both were actually played, and ANS and jjonak were demonstrably good before
before where
I won't be surprised if chipsa pops the fuck off in a doom meta
chipsa was nothing special before
??
He’s been considered a super good doom for a while
I wont doubt him again
Despite the memes
But until i see that
and despite the onlookiness
In high level OWL
He is cracked at the hero
Huh?
like in ranked his Doomfist is pretty damn good, if they play him in a doom meta, I doubt the coaches did nothing to help him
cause yeah obv ladder not equal to OWL
but the coaches can just help build upon whatever he knows already
Hopefully the doom meta comes
Then
Sadge
But later on he'll be good
doubtful
if Doomfist is a must pick anytime soon
he had one meme match against the Titans
How would you know
Chipsa will play
It’d be pepega to play anyone else
Literally judging chipsa when he hasn't even played besides 1 meme match against titans
Almost bm but not quite
mayb
Shock cuda run a bronze
I’m just waiting for the actual doom meta
and beat Boston 3-0
I have said there is no evidence he is anything better than ladder so far
Ye
if and when he is played seriously in a doomfist meta and does well, great
give me chipsa or give me death
You said if fusion wanted to win they will never play chipsa
no evidence = u cant call someone bad
he’s the best doom on the team ecksdee
No evidence you cant call someone good
because eqo genji is still a better option
genji will probs be pooled soon tho
I think saying chipsas doom is not owl level is a stretch when he's signed just to play doom
I can based off of Eqo being a proven good player and Chipsa not being proven
C'mon florida i believe in ya . you got this
And his doom is better than carpe who's doom is owl level
does Carpe even play doom
Yes
since when did carpe ever play doom
I doubt that was what they would have preferred
Carpe can play everything
His Widow and Tracer are just another level
every dps
not Zarya
certainly he probably is a great dps on all characters, but that doesn't mean all are OWL level
get the fuck ont the point!
this is great
this has been a hectic map
Fusion has problem
I am very positive Carpe can play every dps at an owl level
Which is that carpe is their best tracer widow and ashe
if not, den 90% of them haha
Same
guy is the Faker of OW
He is mvp candidate
he is definitely very talented
ooo great zoning
dang, this match looks like it may be like a 3-2 slugfest
if Atl loses this map GG
prety interactive game
can give Florida the win
Babybay was the problem
eh
oop
Babybay did better than we gave him credit for
^
Atlanta has basically no healing with this comp




