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daring geyser
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each na team will play 2 matches

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next week

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do u think chipsa should play

balmy wolf
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no

daring geyser
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I rewatched his match against titans

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hes actually pretty good

balmy wolf
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that was against titans

daring geyser
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titans have grown

balmy wolf
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ok?

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they were the worst team in the league then

daring geyser
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lets see

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who philly will play against

balmy wolf
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philly dont play next week

daring geyser
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I think it was boston and toronto

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I saw on the website today

balmy wolf
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thats shock

daring geyser
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aw shit

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thats next next week

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do u think poko should play?

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and ivy

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oh wait its glads and toronto

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they should play chipsa against glads

balmy wolf
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Poko and ivy play when it's a mei comp

daring geyser
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and lhcloudy vs sado is a dream

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both aggressive reins

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what does tf in supertf stand for

balmy wolf
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super titty fucker

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hes said this

daring geyser
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like fr

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what does tf stand for

balmy wolf
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literally super said titty fucker

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thats all he said

daring geyser
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what about christfer

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oh shit

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just realized its a pun

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fuck

hot heart
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Team fortress maybe?

tropic herald
hot heart
tropic herald
hot heart
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widepeepo šŸ‘‹

tropic herald
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tl;dr everyone is making playoffs

hot heart
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Kind of assumed

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Thanks empathy

balmy wolf
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BOSTON VS SHOCK GRAND FINALS

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CALLING IT NOW

hot heart
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Wait is the finals split into regions

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If not

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Shanghai shock

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Gonna be lit

worn falcon
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Nah, Uprising vs Chengdu Grand Finals

tropic herald
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i think they are holding off on saying whether or not they will be regional playoffss or nts

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ots

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nots

earnest leaf
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Maybe they would do playoff qualifiers for x amount of teams in na, and fly out the teams that make it to korea and do online playoffs there

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I just wanna see na teams vs apac teams

tropic herald
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i have a geeling it will work like the normal tournaments

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and then top 4 of an and top 2 of APAC?

hot heart
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Top 3 and 4 NA get rolled by top 2 of apac

balmy wolf
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NA 2 3 4 get rolled by top 2 apac*

digital cloud
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I think Philly would compete

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as much as I despise them

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who is second in APAC right now?

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Seoul?

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Spark?

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Charge?

cloud latch
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charge or ny

balmy wolf
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charge

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not ny

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lol

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in genji meta charge 1sy

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1st

next mesa
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charge first

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I think seoul is third

tropic herald
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Charge

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Charge have been doing so good

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I feel like after charge though is up for debate

next mesa
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its obviously dragons

tropic herald
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Well I have Charge at second still but yeah

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Top 2 is obvious the rest is a bunch of guessing

silk frost
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Also John Specter said that they're looking to "revamp" hero pools and OTHER RELATED SYSTEMS

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HERO BANS???

forest raven
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There's a red vs blue reference in this video

vagrant jacinth
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Oof just remembered there's no games this week, now I'm big sad

viral veldt
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I thought there were😢

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Now my lil bro gunna be sad

spring fossil
rancid barn
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Hey everyone! - I’m hosting an Overwatch tournament next week and am looking for someone who is interested in being a Commentator for 2 hours during a 3 day stretch! Anybody interested please DM me! Thank you!

sharp osprey
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remember when pine was still in the league and everytime he hits a shot the casters go nuts?

vivid sentinel
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Lol

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XD

next mesa
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"a walking highlight reel"

true hound
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I thought there was owl tomorrow smh

next mesa
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no owl for like

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2 weeks

tropic herald
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I just want OWL

true hound
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kinda wanna see shock spank Boston

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I mean Boston spank shock oops

next mesa
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bruh

barren quest
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Boston really needs a new flex dps and main support

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And uh better coaching

next mesa
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better everything

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imagine being munchkin

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was gonna pop off on tracer meta but then jerry pops off 1 time so you're traded

tropic herald
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Munchkin retired

raw ermine
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Munchkin was all over the place

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active, inactive, I think OWL was too stressful for him

tropic herald
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He plays valorant now

raw ermine
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yeah

next mesa
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val- šŸ’¤

raw ermine
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I feel like the ppl in the valorant discord server are saying similar things to that about ow lmao

tropic herald
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Watching Valorant is ResidentSleeper

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Watching OW is blobconfused

worn falcon
true hound
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pog indeed

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king is back

next mesa
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POGPOGPOGPOGPOGPOGPOGPOG HOLY SHIIIIIT

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@raw ermine idk how they can say that

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I can see how overwatch would be bad and how you would dislike it

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but like its so much more fast paced than valorant damn

true hound
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ima be so happy if he streams tmrw

sullen berry
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Valorant gets to be chill

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Just watching the numbers game it’s not much more than what OW League is pulling (on YouTube)

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But keep this part in mind - this is their Tier 2 and Tier 3 level content

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And they should expect to pull much more viewership once they see some really unique content from ESPN tournaments in particular

balmy wolf
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shadders coming back ?

true hound
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possible

balmy wolf
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isn’t he an old player ?

next mesa
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hes a boomer

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just kidding idk how old he is

balmy wolf
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old as in 2017 vibes

true hound
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2016

sullen berry
sullen berry
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Happy gained a bit of weight this year, and our Chinese fans refer to him as H A P P Y (the added space between letters connotes wider girth), in a loving way of course.
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H A P P Y

worn falcon
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T h i c c

sullen berry
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H u g e D P S and a BIG A S H E

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Like most teams who ride the championship honeymoon

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I've got no doubt they can Snowball their final 3 matches

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But they don't even have to win them to maintain top 6

hot heart
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H A P P Y

vagrant jacinth
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H A P P Y

raw ermine
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H A P P Y lmao

daring geyser
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hahhah happy the player

shell folio
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Can some explain when did Shanghai Dragons get good

raw ermine
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Start of this season

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they got LeeJaegon, Fleta, LIP, void, and Fearless

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stand1 and a good coaching staff

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POGGGGGGGGG

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HE STREAMING RN BOIS

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well this was posted an hour ago

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but still pog

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can confirm he is still pog at genji after watching for 30s

karmic grotto
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the legend

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the myth

raw ermine
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lmao if you type !team in his chat it say he is playing for team gigantti

hot heart
echo quest
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Damn NRG owner Andy Miller said it was a blunder investing in OWL

raw ermine
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oof

vagrant jacinth
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Owie

balmy wolf
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We already knew that it was a blunder

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it was about 130 million just for a spot

raw ermine
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I thought it was 20 mil?

hidden vault
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The 1st one maybe

echo quest
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Ain’t no fucking owner paying 130 million

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The buy ins were like 20 million

balmy wolf
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i meant 30mil

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not 130

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last years prize pool was 3 mil

next mesa
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I mean yeah OWL has been a huge failure

sullen berry
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Rewatching the shock vs eternal playoff elim. So what happened here?

next mesa
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Sparkle happened

earnest leaf
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Sparkle was large and shock was unable to mirror the genji comp

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Paris just barely won out vs shock with sparkle being a fucking nutcase

tropic herald
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Sp9rk1e turned off the hyper feed and turned on the hyper dick

next mesa
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Strikers back broke

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😫

sullen berry
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Hmm I disagree, there's more synergy with the rest of the team that either pulled all their resources into sp9rk1e at the right time

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And less favourable, benbest playing smart

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Surely fusion learned how to pool healing resources onto EQO more effectively, after all that time playing chipsa - twice āœŒļø

sullen berry
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And the final fight?

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That's the first time I've ever seen a baptiste stagger on a map where you had a method to jump off the map

short sparrow
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Yeah, Paris played really good, wasn't just Sp9rk1e carry

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but you notice more the overall development against the Fusion imo

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Because the Fusion were so good at shutting down Sp9rk1e other people had to step up

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And they did

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Individually and as a team

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(taking advantage of the fact the Fusion were still worried about Sp9rk1e)

balmy wolf
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jay3 joined florida mayhem?

true hound
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as a streamer

balmy wolf
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nice

next mesa
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fury and alarm the sparkle cuck duo

royal ore
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do i need any plugins for owl statslab or is it just down rn

balmy wolf
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u download the stats

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its a spreadsheet

royal ore
sullen berry
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Hello there šŸ‘‹ @royal ore

balmy wolf
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Bazzi joined C9 Valorant roster

hot heart
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O

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Bazzi

balmy wolf
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Just here to drop a tip for low rank player, communications are massive so go to the groups before searching for a comp. You team comp should be good, so switch if it isnt right and dont be scared to tell people to switch to something else. Positioning is also important (don't act like a drunk). I can give tips if anyone want some just dm.

fervent beacon
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whenever I hear the word "switch" it reminds me of Overwatch

echo quest
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I don’t think Bazzi is joining the NA team

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Then again c9 hasn’t said anything about a korean team

balmy wolf
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Sry @balmy wolf

sullen berry
raw ermine
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yikess

hot heart
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Bro

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Whats happening

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Why

sullen berry
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don't yell at the messenger

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I wouldn't know why he wasn't able to be honest on his own social media

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but I assume the panic was there and he needed to get it off his chest some of the physical stress he's having

narrow heron
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awe, i hope he’s feeling better if he deleted them : (

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it hurts to see him like that

tropic herald
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Might be a little dumb but who’s that

blissful wadi
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Ans

balmy wolf
viral veldt
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I thought the top comment was Twilight šŸ˜‚

feral zodiac
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Sandpaper WidowLUL

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5ļøāƒ£ šŸ‘±ā€ā™‚ļø

blissful wadi
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Yeah that’s why I said ans

raw ermine
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I'm dumb AF how does ANS=sandpaper?

blissful wadi
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He sandpaper’s the bottom of his mouse and his mousepad and that’s how he aims so well

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According to super

raw ermine
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ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

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rightttttttt

tropic herald
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Envy getting a Valorant team PogT

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Pretty poggers

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Ngl

balmy wolf
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EXCUSE ME

raw ermine
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what

balmy wolf
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HOW THE FUCK IS GENJI NOT BANNED

raw ermine
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noooooooo

tropic herald
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You’re complaining that Genji isn’t banned?

raw ermine
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no

balmy wolf
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He had about a 90% pick rate

raw ermine
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I just don't like pools

tropic herald
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I personally think this pool will be enjoyable to watch

balmy wolf
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Im not complaining hes not gone

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But he should be

tropic herald
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Ana bit the bullet for 2 weeks of salvation

raw ermine
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I guess no orisa is good

feral zodiac
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Genji gonna be a requirement for the next two weeks WidowLUL

balmy wolf
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Genji gonna be a requirement for the next two weeks WidowLUL
@feral zodiac is he? no ana for blade and brig nerf

tropic herald
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Hmmm

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He’s still gonna be played but not a must pick

balmy wolf
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no orisa for free blade farm either

tropic herald
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Wait

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These pools are actually so weird

balmy wolf
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ya dont say lol

tropic herald
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The meta could be more than one thing

balmy wolf
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Somehow bap brig genji survived

tropic herald
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With widow banned and Ashe nerfed you’d recon McCree is in which means you’d get Rein Dva Mei too

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But Mei is dead

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Maybe Dive is played

balmy wolf
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the ashe nerf was only the dynamite cooldown tho right

tropic herald
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That seems like the only thing that’s not nerfed and isn’t messed up with the pool

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Winston Dva Genji/Echo Tracer/Sombra Moira Lucio

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Then for brawly maps you got good ole Rein Sigma Doom/Genji/Echo Reaper/Sym Bap/Moira Lucio

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Then again you could probably just never play Dive and just play Rein Sigma and be fine

worn falcon
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No ANS perhaps?

tropic herald
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Super in

worn falcon
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Genji Super

sullen berry
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Bringing back the WIN in winston

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Will guxue finally look good this season?

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Charge dodge a pretty pog matchup for the remaining regular season matches, battle of the Zhous on hold indefinitely

worn falcon
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no double shield, so this mean Rein/Zarya, Rein/Sigma, Rein/Dva or Dive

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Genji/Echo/Ashe

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and Zen/Brig/Lucio, Mercy maybe

tropic herald
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I think Charge kinda slink back down if Rein is meta over Orisa

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Then again they don’t have hard matchups for the time Orisa is gone

earnest leaf
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Wonder if the buffs were enough to have teams run rein dva

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especially with orisa gone

forest token
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I can see them running dva to negate ashe dynamite, I don't think you have much reason to run her over sig otherwise

tropic herald
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No Mei yeah just another reason to run sigma over rein

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Dva***

raw ermine
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I could go for a good old old german man young korean girl meta

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reminds me of when toronto went to 5 w/ Philly

vagrant jacinth
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No mei and orisa kinda sweeeeet

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So what we playing? Dive?

tropic herald
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He don’t miss

raw ermine
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twitlongers get my heart racing

true hound
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ooh

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interesting read

tropic herald
raw ermine
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they have a academy team? hmm

tropic herald
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Yeah most APAC teams do

raw ermine
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I thought it was GZ academy

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but they just stopped running

balmy wolf
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loook my emoij

karmic grotto
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No

sullen berry
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Yes

digital cloud
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noncommittal answer

hot heart
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Do people think charge better than shanghai at full strength overall?

feral zodiac
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In this meta? Yes

hot heart
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Not this meta

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Just overall

feral zodiac
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Then no

hot heart
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Good

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Charge second best team now

feral zodiac
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Nah

hot heart
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Who is

feral zodiac
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Shock are better overall as well

hot heart
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APAC

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Not NA

feral zodiac
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Then yes

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Charge are second

hot heart
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Who would even be third

feral zodiac
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New york or seoul

hot heart
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Past first and second place it isnt solid

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Id say new york

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Just because

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Seoul

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Are so extremely inconsistent

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That you cant bet on them to win anything

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Or loose

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You just wait and see

feral zodiac
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Yep

balmy wolf
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its so so poor

hot heart
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Is bad

civic island
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dumb question, two-way player means?

scarlet pivot
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A two way player is a player that plays for the contenders team and the OWL team but can only play a limited amount of games in OWL

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So pretty much since Wya can't be with the team they are letting him play in contenders so he can still practise

civic island
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Ahhh, thanks for explaining it to me. Appreciate it. :>

balmy wolf
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can anyone join open division?

clear crane
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Do we still consider Doomfist Sp9rk1e's best hero? or is it Genji now

swift moth
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ive never seens p9rk1es doom but holy fuck his genji

true hound
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We’ll have to wait until a doom meta comes along

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Then we can judge really

balmy wolf
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can sinatraa come back for doom meta to shut sp9rk1e down

short sparrow
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no

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no one can shut sp9rk1e down

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.<

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I won't let it happen

raw ermine
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SBB is streaming on twitch šŸ‘€

true hound
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chipsa doom over all

swift moth
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^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

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philip "chipsa" graham, star player of the philpdelphia fish and chipsa, undefeated player

vernal widget
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Someone explain to my why it took the Shanghai dragons 40 loses just to get one win.

limber pine
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they were bad

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It's not terribly complicated

raw ermine
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it took them 42 technically

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but they had bad coaching and probably gave up halfway through

tropic herald
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They were boomed

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Also no teams wanted to lose to them

balmy wolf
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@vernal widget 42***

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ofc tho

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it was boston

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who they beat

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Actually was technically 44 if you count pre season

raw ermine
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they didn't have fusions which led to it

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true

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it was a logistical mistake

balmy wolf
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their 2nd win was against spitfire

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imagine if they lost to boston

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their first win vs s1 champs

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lmao

hot heart
feral zodiac
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Put a bunch of players that speak completely different languages together and s1 Shanghai is the result

raw ermine
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they were all chinese tho

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granted they picked up 3 koreans

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and that didn't help at all

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it was a sad time

feral zodiac
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Pretty sure there's more than one language in china ZenDisappointed

raw ermine
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true tho their can't be 8 different languages, and even if their are, that doesn't mean they picked up players with 8 different languages. If they did then they wanted to lose

swift moth
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shanghai beat boston because they were having issues with fusions's contract

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but then boston became the boomed team and shanghai popped off

frosty pebble
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qlq ah un discord nitro a offrir svp

swift moth
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????

next mesa
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hes asking if someone can give him discord nitro

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@frosty pebble no shut

clear crane
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Shanghai from zero to number 1

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And Fearless saw it all PanGClap

hot heart
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@frosty pebble no shut
@next mesa Chad SHUT

worn falcon
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The chad is back PogChimp

viral veldt
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Why's everyone in comments asking what they smoking?

worn falcon
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Because he was some troublesome player for Spark lol

karmic grotto
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HHhahaha

idle beacon
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whats a two-way player?

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OWL and contenders back & forth ?

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nvm

gentle umbra
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he is going to start in contenders

clear crane
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Woah Krystal is back JunkratShock

sullen berry
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Yee

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This was the right way to integrate him back into OW League

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Now we have a bastion main who can go beep boop fk you hangzhou until the day comes that this is a 50% chinese starting roster

gentle umbra
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i cant tell if you are kidding or not lol\

sullen berry
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Eileen and Krystal dps reunion will be smoking gun that hits off way harder than GodsB and Architect

viral veldt
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Bastion op

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I wanna see bastion in owl leave me alone

gentle umbra
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he will start in contenders and also he is in china while the team is in KR

sullen berry
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Krystal has played amongst other dps a good mccree, bastion, widow, hanzo and brig

gentle umbra
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i don't think we will see him in owl before the pandemic ends tbh

sullen berry
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I thought that was obvious he is stuck in China since the Charge are in Korea, but apparently not

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Wouldn't expect him any earlier than the postseason. Even that's unlikely

gentle umbra
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he'll play with wya tho, build up some synergy before they join the main team

sullen berry
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Eileen and Onlywish vibes

gentle umbra
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onylwish pepehands

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honestly tho krystal wrote bunch of fluff in his post so i really hope he means what he says

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he disappointed me so much i hope he doesnt disappoint me even more

balmy wolf
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Why's everyone in comments asking what they smoking?
@viral veldt he told spark he was going to china for ~3 weeks and didnt return back to US

viral veldt
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That don't sound very good ngl

balmy wolf
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iirc

viral veldt
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??

karmic grotto
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I've heard something else

balmy wolf
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Hangzhou Spark’s Cai ā€œKrystalā€ Shilong has been indefinitely suspended by theĀ OverwatchĀ League team after a week-long public feud over his attitude toward practice. Krystal wasĀ fined earlier this weekĀ after failing to keep Spark management informed about his 10-day absence and his lack of preparation for scrims.

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Hangzhou outlined Krystal’s misdemeanors over the last few months in a statementĀ on the team’s Weibo. He lived outside of the team’s residence, often taking extended trips home to China and not replying to management. Krystal lied about his intentions behind returning home, often spending time with his girlfriend in Hangzhou instead of getting treatment for his mental health issues or caring for his mother as he claimed.

karmic grotto
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Should have said that sooner instead of saying 3 weeks and didn't return to the US. Gotta give the whole package of information

balmy wolf
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I didnt have that at first

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And i mean

he told spark he was going to china for ~3 weeks and didnt return back to US
This basically summarises it

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He said 10days but was suspended 20 days after (~ 3 weeks)

gentle umbra
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he also used the wrong visa (travel instead of work) when he entered US with the Spark, despite multiple reminder, so he can immediately return to china

gentle umbra
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holy shit he's getting sued for 2 mil

sullen berry
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??

hot heart
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What

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????????!

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Bro wtf

sullen berry
gaunt acorn
hot heart
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Yo

sullen berry
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Well now I can paint Krystal's cinderella story

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See Herbalife manged to pay off a 200 million fine

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What are the chances he sees this as an opportunity to sell out under the GZ Brand?

hot heart
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Why do i not know who herbalife are

sullen berry
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If his skills have held up, would any of this matter?

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Herbalife Health is the primary sponsor of the Guangzhou Charge

viral veldt
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There's no way he has 2mil

sullen berry
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normally that's not a big deal, they signed with a big name... who has been known for some shady practices and some disastrous PR with one of their diet products

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He probably would have 2 million if he stayed with spark and got them to the championship twice (I'm joking)

viral veldt
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Are you being fr

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As in legit 2 million in the bank?

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Or in his hands idk

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Oh

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F u

hot heart
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Why the fuck

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Would you sign a deal

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With a company that has done some shady shit

sullen berry
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Loving the reaction to Krystal's reparation

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Bigger than Mr 150k times ten

clear crane
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wtf why 2 million

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There is no way he caused 2 millions in damages

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unless the legal fees are that high there

viral veldt
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How tf would he even have that much

clear crane
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like someone above said it prob would be GZC that pays it

gentle umbra
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I mean krystal’s name is up there with guxue and leave back in owwc

viral veldt
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I doubt they even have that much ngl

gentle umbra
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The probably think that him not doing his job costs 2mil

clear crane
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Charge def has at least 2m lol

balmy wolf
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1: Applied for travel visa instead of work visa so he could freely travel to china when he wanted to
2: Lied to a multimillion dollar Chinese organisation about what he was doing
3: Used a sick mother as an excuse to see his girlfriend
4: He lived outside the team house so he could go back to china without telling the org
5: He didnt talk to management

gentle umbra
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Like imagine how much money shock would lose if Sinatraa suddenly dipped before grand finals

viral veldt
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Maybe I'm just underestimating how much olw teams get

gentle umbra
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From what I know gzc is not paying for him

clear crane
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Charge is owned by some rich guy who owns multiple sports teams

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Im curious on how this plays out

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but its been a month now so who even knows where in the process this is rn

gentle umbra
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He prolly had a big signing fee and salary but hzs stopped paying him after he stopped showing up

viral veldt
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Isnt like the average team contract 50k?

hot heart
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The minimum is 50k yeah

viral veldt
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I wonder how much shock hs

hot heart
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In the millions

balmy wolf
#

on boston striker was only getting 50k

hot heart
#

Boston

#

Has no brain

balmy wolf
#

braib

hot heart
#

Braib

#

I too have no braib

feral zodiac
#

Sinatraa made something in the range of 150-200k not including bonuses

#

Pretty sure they published a list of the highest earners

#

Almost all of them were korean WidowLUL

clear crane
#

I wonder whose the highest earner for Chinese

#

Gotta be Eileen, Guxue, or Leave

hot heart
#

Guxue

#

Has to be

clear crane
#

Soon is prob highest for French

#

Although BenBest might be the best French player rn

#

Hard choice between him and FDGod

balmy wolf
#

soon would be highest bc semis and 2nd place reg season in 2018

clear crane
#

oh I was thinking more strictly contract wise

hot heart
#

Highest earning rn

#

Who would that be

clear crane
#

if we talking overall overall

#

Im guessing Fury?

hot heart
#

Eh

clear crane
#

According to esports earning its Gesture lol

balmy wolf
#

yes

#

the buyout for profit gesture was 1 mil

clear crane
#

I dont think that would count

balmy wolf
#

their contrats will be atleast 150k

clear crane
#

i think that goes to C9

#

Top 18 players are all from the Shock/Spitfire champ teams

#

makes sense

balmy wolf
#

link

clear crane
#

strictly money from tourneys tho

#

not contracts

balmy wolf
#

nah poko 60k - 2nd place season 1

#

doubt its accurate

viral veldt
#

I didn't know owl played that well tbh

clear crane
#

hmm i think it makes sense

#

60k too low or too high

balmy wolf
#

too low

#

Closer above nus

#

and fury

hot heart
#

Profit highest earner rn

#

Wouldnt surprise me

#

Just on a salary basis

#

I mean if you were a team and you were gonna sign on the former GOAT

clear crane
#

i think this is from all of owl

hot heart
#

You'd pay good money

clear crane
#

that would make sense if Closer is above Nus and Fury

#

he was on that GC Busan team that won 2 APEX

#

oops just 1 APEX

feral zodiac
#

Wonder who the highest earning off tank is

hot heart
#

Has to be VOID or Fury

#

Maybe Space

feral zodiac
#

Choi is probably up there

hot heart
#

Yeah

viral veldt
#

Highest earning tank and support?

true hound
#

muma mia

balmy wolf
#

its fury @feral zodiac

#
  1. Gesture
  2. Profit
  3. Birdring
  4. Bdosin
  5. Closer
  6. Fury
  7. Nus
  8. Rascal
clear crane
#

yea this has to be taking pre-OWL as well

#

Closer should be above BirdRing and Bdosin tho

#

if you click into their names it will break down how much each player got from which team they played for

tropic herald
#

Krystal can’t go MIA again right?

limber pine
#

sure he can

tropic herald
#

Anyways rip Krystal with that 2.1 million dollar fee

#

How is that fee even just

balmy wolf
#

1: Applied for travel visa instead of work visa so he could freely travel to china when he wanted to after spark telling him countless times to get work visa
2: Lied to a multimillion dollar Chinese organisation about what he was doing
3: Used a sick mother as an excuse to see his girlfriend
4: He lived outside the team house so he could go back to china without telling the org
5: He didnt talk to management

tropic herald
#

Is that damage to Bili Bili even close to worth 2.1 million dollars

hot heart
#

Probably not

#

But i dont know shit about the legal system

raw ermine
#

WHOA

#

WOHA

#

KRYSTAL

#

redemption arc?

limber pine
#

probably for next season, given all the visa issue APAC is having

raw ermine
#

yeah

#

In other news, Daemin is a coach for EM now

#

in that article above, how on earth did nevix make more money than, say, sinatraa

vagrant jacinth
#

2 mil holy shit

clear crane
#

Nevix was part of Misfits back in 2016

#

Made 26k with them

hot heart
#

Forgot nevix existed before OWL

tropic herald
#

Whereas Sinatraa on Selfless made not much money

raw ermine
#

Sinatraa has more cause his contract in the end tho, even if it isn't counted

jolly pecan
#

How much was krystals contract he was in a bidding war right?

#

I could see it getting high but not 2 mil high

#

How much was decay's contract again?

raw ermine
#

about 300k

#

no way anyone has a million dollar contract

#

maybe some realllly top tier veterans like Jjonak or carpe's 3 year contract

balmy wolf
#

maybe some realllly top tier veterans like Jjonak or carpe's 3 year contract
@raw ermine Choi

#

too

raw ermine
#

yeah

feral zodiac
#

Someone like viol2t maybe?

tropic herald
#

Striker and Crusty probably had thicc contracts

next mesa
#

is charge management on fuckin crack

tropic herald
#

They win one tourney and the whole management goes on crack

true hound
#

honestly lmao

#

signing a man who now has 2 mil in debt

balmy wolf
#

is charge management on fuckin crack
@next mesa huh?

true hound
#

and just walked out of a team

balmy wolf
#

ohhhh

#

yes

true hound
#

and then signed an MLM as a sponsor

#

pog

balmy wolf
#

they'll get herbalife to pay dw

#

lol

tropic herald
#

They literally are sponsored by a pyramid scheme

true hound
#

charge hard smoking

balmy wolf
#

has viol2t been fined yet

tropic herald
#

Probably won’t be

balmy wolf
#

owl so so shit recently

tropic herald
#

At least the hero pool is good for once

true hound
#

oh

#

what is it atm

#

orisa widow something right

tropic herald
#

Orisa Mei Widow Ana

#

I wonder if Echo will get hurt less by pack nerfs than Genji does

#

I also wonder if the Dva buffs along with Orisa out pulls Sigma out of the met

#

Meta

vagrant jacinth
#

Charge are wild lmao, what're they smokin

next mesa
#

brig and bap meta for weeks but somehow ana still gets banned

true hound
#

orisa pooled

#

aaaa

next mesa
#

yes

#

dive this weekend or bad

true hound
#

can we have

#

doom plz

#

i just wanna see Blase and ChipSa

next mesa
#

chipsa meta

#

bro imagine subbing eqo out for chipsa

true hound
#

yes

#

dude philly is home to 3 amazing genji players

#

Shadowburn, EQO, and ChipSa

next mesa
#

I think people forget that chipsa was consistently t500 genji before doom got released

tropic herald
#

Don’t forget about Ivy Weirdga

true hound
#

lol yeah @next mesa

next mesa
#

doesnt ivy only play mei

true hound
#

mei otp smhh

#

put in j a r d i o

tropic herald
#

Ivy is essentially their Mei specialist

#

He has a clean Zarya too

next mesa
#

mei doom meta

true hound
#

chipsa doom plz

#

i wanna see it

next mesa
#

pull it out against boston or some shit

tropic herald
#

Boston SADGE

true hound
#

bro istg if chipsa contract ends

#

by the end of this szn

#

boston is a major FeelsBadMan they were looking good

#

took paris to a map 5 twice, beat up the Glads

#

then they got nuked

raw ermine
#

Wait GZC signed a deal with herbalife? WHY LMAOOO

next mesa
#

whats herbalife

true hound
#

a pyramid scheme/mlm

next mesa
#

"multi-level marketing" ok dude

true hound
#

lmao

raw ermine
#

Its a scam

#

why are they doing this

balmy wolf
#

why hasnt owl stopped it is the real question

next mesa
#

I mean

tropic herald
#

It’s literally a pyramid scheme

next mesa
#

do they have control over who the teams can partner with

tropic herald
#

Yes

next mesa
#

well in that case

#

I dont know

tropic herald
#

Certain sponsors are not allowed, like Pepsi

balmy wolf
#

hi

#

why did the whole chat get deleted

#

well like loads of it

plush grail
#

wait why is pepsi not allowed

#

is it cause coke is a sponsor of owl

next mesa
#

most likely

#

@balmy wolf idk maybe because we went off topic GWspenderPaiSmug

plush grail
#

what's your takes on what's going on with nyxl

#

a team that on paper, should be fucking great but is getting so much mixed results

next mesa
#

coaching

plush grail
#

probably

#

really hope they fix this soon

#

because if they keep losing they're gonna end up losing players

balmy wolf
#

IMT HAHA

hot heart
#

Haksal gonna leave

#

I imagine SBB will try and save them

#

But probably fail

balmy wolf
raw ermine
#

yeah I saw that

#

might go downtown to see that one day

#

if it happens

next mesa
#

yes

#

same

#

Toronto gang

raw ermine
#

OWL is quite polarizing. You see stuff like this and then you see andy miller calling OWL investments "blunders". You see GZ forming an new academy team and then you see all these retirements

tame sphinx
#

why arent owl teams called the normal stuff

#

like after the big orgs

limber pine
#

OWL wanted names unique to the league

balmy wolf
#

@tame sphinx oh hi

vagrant jacinth
#

I like the team names

#

Weren't fusion building an arena too? Well, the owner

true hound
#

ye

#

fusion arena

tame sphinx
#

@tame sphinx oh hi
@balmy wolf bonjour

lyric cliff
#

yooo, why is shockwave getting hate on twitter rn?

#

what'd the homie do

worn falcon
lyric cliff
#

wait, is this a pvpx and viol2t thing like from a week ago?

#

a one trick vs an owl player

worn falcon
#

ĀÆ_(惄)_/ĀÆ

lyric cliff
#

I'm with shockwave tbh

#

steevo made him look like he was doing nothing

#

but he played bastion and got no value

balmy wolf
#

steevos video shows literally no throwing

#

lol

lyric cliff
#

shockwave just popping

raw ermine
#

The throwing starts at 0.00 and goes all the way til the end

balmy wolf
#

but shockwave literally wasn't throwing

raw ermine
#

oh I thought you meant stevoo playing

#

bastion

balmy wolf
#

by steevos video i meant the one he made

#

mb

next mesa
#

this is just them nitpicking

feral zodiac
#

Steevo complaining about someone wanting him banned

#

Wonder where I've seen this before

primal minnow
#

Pfft. Apply’s response.

tropic herald
#

tl;dr some one trick is mad at an owl player calling them out for being bad

cloud latch
#

lol

next mesa
#

Another otp defending him in the comments is so funny lol

earnest leaf
#

damn they both play like shit in a game and get pissy at eachother

#

How original

tropic herald
#

Except one was playing bastion on KotH so I know who I’m going to flame more

balmy wolf
#

And said bastion is accusing the other of throwing but shows 0 clips of throwing

dawn locust
#

hey guys, is Pharah suits every maps and every mode???

silk frost
#

discuss

digital cloud
#

he had a bug on him

#

I seen't it

tropic herald
sullen berry
#

Here's a good question

#

šŸ–Ø

#

should you see chengdu rework their roster or blow it up completely?

digital cloud
#

I think they have some good pieces

#

probably a rework

balmy wolf
#

blow it up

#

same with boston

#

blow carcar up out of titans too

plush grail
#

i fucking love oge for that

balmy wolf
#

Defiants first coach

hot heart
#

I feel like defiant are gonna become a good team

raw ermine
#

woooooo

hot heart
#

Tell me, do you think defiant are better than houstan?

cloud latch
#

no

swift moth
#

I think defaint had potential but im disapointed in them

hot heart
#

I wanted to see what dan would say

karmic grotto
#

lmao

#

first coach

raw ermine
#

me?

#

I agree with boosted moria player

daring geyser
#

boston will beat shock

#

boston will beat shock

#

boston will beat shock

hot heart
#

pogU BOSTON WILL BEAT SHOCK

limber pine
#

boston will not beat shock

worn falcon
#

But chengdu will beat SHD

tropic herald
#

Just realized battle of Texas is this weekend

true hound
#

hell yeah

#

last one was so dope

#

lots of muma throwing

daring geyser
#

muma mia! šŸ

#

wtf does muma even mean

balmy wolf
#

means "feeder"

daring geyser
#

lol

raw ermine
viscid schooner
#

i have a question

daring geyser
#

the irony that muma is gay

viscid schooner
#

i'm from turkey and i wanna play in e-sports

daring geyser
#

while the term means ladies lol

true hound
#

muma mia

viscid schooner
#

does overwatch support that?

raw ermine
#

3 Muma The best main tank in Overwatch "Muma is really good at playing Reinhardt" by impledob November 17, 2018

#

that aged poorly

#

lmaooooooo

true hound
#

lmao

#

he was good s1

daring geyser
#

muma is a gud monkey but one of the worst reins

#

worse rein than fusions

#

thats sad

#

hydration is a lot more reliable

karmic grotto
raw ermine
#

rip spree

covert furnace
#

Imagine releasing Spree before fucking Boink.

#

That guy is a bigger waste of a roster spot.

#

At least Spree is somewhat good at the game.

true hound
#

oh yeah wtf

#

Boink still alive

next mesa
#

who

balmy wolf
#

he was a sub for bani

silk frost
#

Boink isn't THAT bad at Lucio

#

He isn't good but if Jecse is sick, Boink could come in and it wouldn't be the end of times

#

Like the gap of boink and jecse is definitely smaller than:
-boombox and alarm
-Profit and Illicit
-even Meko and Spree

swift moth
#

I forgot boink existed tbh

raw ermine
#

It probably would be better to play rawkus rapel then boink at that point

hot heart
#

Bani still exists

#

Why doesnt he retire

#

Easy pay check im assuming

raw ermine
#

bani left

#

he was a Washington Justice coach

hot heart
#

O

#

Forgot

#

Completely

raw ermine
#

POG APAC AND NA ARE GONNA PLAY

#

its a top 4 system tho

#

so

#

GZC/SEO and SHD, SFS AND Paris/Philly

balmy wolf
#

SHOCK GOING TO APAC

hot heart
#

Shanghai charge my prediction

#

Shanghai take it

#

SFS philly

#

SFS

#

Maybe florida or valiant

silk frost
#

they won't nerf genji

hot heart
#

If they got red hot

silk frost
#

it'll be paris

hot heart
#

Ye

#

Wait

#

No

#

Philly could beat paris in genji meta

silk frost
#

but Philly would never beat SFS

hot heart
#

Eqo is clean as hell

silk frost
#

and Paris could beat either

hot heart
#

Ye

#

Barely

silk frost
#

but they could

hot heart
#

Yes

#

If paris take it

silk frost
#

philly would barely beat paris if they won

hot heart
#

They win this year

silk frost
#

and never would they beat shock

digital cloud
#

eqo genji

hot heart
#

Shanghai hasnt impressed me in genji meta

digital cloud
#

I can see it

hot heart
#

Ye

balmy wolf
#

they won't nerf genji
@silk frost they're nerfing him in one of the next 2 experimentals

silk frost
#

shock and paris can beat 2/3rds of the top 3 NA teams

#

philly can beat 1

#

have they said that?

balmy wolf
#

yes

hot heart
#

His charge rate probably

silk frost
#

prolly won't do much

#

he's such a monsterous brawl hero and has such insane damage output

#

only brig really counters him

#

and kinda winston/moira but they have more counterplay

true hound
#

soon looks terrifying

silk frost
#

how so?

true hound
silk frost
#

oh fuck oh shit

raw ermine
#

see you soon-soon

rare magnet
#

it says the finals will be played in asia thats cool

#

two na teams will travel to asia to face two asia teams

raw ermine
#

cause Korea has been doing well in terms of Covid cases

#

as opposed to the US

rare magnet
#

oh yes that's the only way they could do it indeed considering how badly na has handled covid

hot heart
#

I think EU and asia just think america is a joke rn

#

Welp

digital cloud
#

how can they afford that

#

surely they are not making much money

rare magnet
#

actually i was wrong last year was 3,5 million, but winner and second place gets more this year

#

well my counting was wrong too it says on the owl article its 4 million so more than last year after all im pepega

clear crane
#

I really really hope Paris is final 4 team

#

Just for Fielder

#

i want a video of him meeting everyone on Paris

raw ermine
#

yes

#

fielder is a class act

#

a champion of the people

#

he we lead us into the future

#

fielder for president of SK 20XX

balmy wolf
#

I think EU and asia just think america is a joke rn
@hot heart eu and asia think america and uk is a joke rn *

tropic herald
#

What about all stars

hot heart
#

Ye the UK is handling this badly too

feral zodiac
#

What's uk handling badly?

balmy wolf
#

covid

worn falcon
#

On same region but not LAN

clear crane
#

No way UK is worse den US

#

i thought they were doing well

worn falcon
true hound
#

gods

#

pog

raw ermine
#

epic

#

so epic

stray karma
#

should i get a nyxl skin

tropic herald
#

That team actually has good potential

primal minnow
#

Who do you think will be the final 4 teams?

true hound
#

shock

#

shanghai

#

uhhh, charge fusion mayb?

raw ermine
#

I feel like seoul will somehow do well

primal minnow
#

Think Seoul will come 3rd in the regionals.

stray karma
#

i think that boston will win

balmy wolf
#

Yep

stray karma
#

or washington

#

there really good teams

balmy wolf
#

ikr

next mesa
#

seoul will either finish top 4 or get swept by chengdu in first round

feral zodiac
#

Chengdu to win it all

digital cloud
#

I call Houston to make it and then choke in semis

silk frost
#

I call Houston to not make it at all

digital cloud
#

probably

rare magnet
#

i thought they were actually hacked too

raw ermine
#

lmaooooo

sullen berry
#

21 regular season matches

#

Can't wait to see Seoul and spitfire ram into each other repeatedly for Countdown placements

plush grail
#

the unstoppable force vs the immovable object

#

unless seoul goes the feeding monkey way again

balmy wolf
#

Can't wait to see Seoul and spitfire ram into each other repeatedly for Countdown placements
@sullen berry seoul and spitfire dont play for the countdown tournament

#

they play 3 times after that

sullen berry
#

esports meme, ofc

hot heart
#

Dont mind if i do

#

Yoink

balmy wolf
#

yes this is how its gonna be play

#

and check the website if u wanna be sure

upper niche
#

Yeah, that's the way it'll work, they just haven't said much yet on what days those matches will be played on.

#

as best we can tell, it'll be playoff rounds on the weeks of the 3rd and 10th, then two weekends off, then the finals - but very unspecific as to how and when those finals will be played.

sullen berry
#

Sounds perfect if now is the time those travel plans are coming up in a months time

#

Fits in the 14 day isolation period in Korea

#

It gets very boring from there

mystic anvil
#

@sullen berry think it's better blank or presenting information that's too small to read because the aura on its own is quite threatening. Part of the implication should be that you're holding back something.

#

U have to inquire into where the power comes from

sullen berry
karmic grotto
feral zodiac
hot heart
#

Seoul is the biggest disappointment this year

#

Previously thought to be glads or reign

#

For me anyway

tropic herald
#

Doesn’t miss

hidden vault
#

brig is gonna be another mercy, nerfing to the oblivion

balmy wolf
#

nobody is complaining about that

viral veldt
#

I don't think anyone would care about brig getting nerfed except brig mains

limber pine
#

Brig is not terrible.

#

just certainly not S tier like she was before

tropic herald
#

I’d say brig is still very strong you just aren’t going to lose if you don’t run brig now

feral zodiac
#

What if you both don't run brig

hot heart
#

Brig i think is in a relatively okay place rn

true hound
#

Brig still super good next to Bap

#

Bap just seems to get a loss less shit

hot heart
#

I think its because you need skill to play him really well

#

Brig is a mace to the face bot

raw ermine
#

yo

#

idea

#

remove brig's primary fire

#

and reduce the shift to a 1-2 cooldown

#

and reduce inspire

next mesa
#

seoul is not the biggest disappointment of the year wtf

#

its reign

#

seoul has been CONSISTENTLY clown for 3 years

hot heart
#

I meah

#

*mean

#

You're not wrong

#

But

#

The potential

#

Is higher than rein

#

*reign

next mesa
#

yes but like

#

remember when they were just lunatic hai

#

clear favourites

#

and then boom gets smoked by nyxl

balmy wolf
#

they also got smoked by spitfire

#

4-0 4-0 3-2 3-2

next mesa
#

but now spitfire is seoul

#

🧠

#

sorry just yeeted profit and gesture

balmy wolf
#

1 mil buyout

#

Worst owl deal ever

hot heart
digital cloud
#

I don’t know, reign should also have a bunch of potential

next mesa
#

werent they like projected top 4 or something

#

beginning of the season

digital cloud
#

Masaa was awesome last year, Edison and Erster are star dpses, the tanks are decent, maybe no good supports for whatever dogman’s position is

#

Some people did have them too four

#

I had them about too fiver

#

Top five*

raw ermine
#

People thought gator and hawk would be better

#

and they thought erster would be played

digital cloud
#

I still argue Gator and Hawk are good

#

I think the coaching is apparently rather bad

raw ermine
#

Yeah

digital cloud
#

And the support line is underperforming

raw ermine
#

Sephy needs the šŸ‘¢

hot heart
#

Coaching staff should be replaced completely

raw ermine
#

Dogman dies a lot

hot heart
#

Dogman should be dropped

#

If they can find someone

digital cloud
#

Dog man is not good enough yes

hot heart
#

I dont see why youd want him

digital cloud
#

Not sure what happened to Masaa though

#

He has fans, from what I gather

hot heart
#

Masaa dropped off

digital cloud
#

He was like mini Dafran

#

Dog man was