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Is that the coach or the player
Oh
or maybe im mistaking it
Out why would his name be ParkYoungJin if his name is JinYoungJin
That could be
But at the same time Park and YoungJin are both real common names
wassup guys im new here
i wish I spoke korean
Chimp pumper
@next mesa it’s a really fun language to learn, just start it
lol the solo ult
lmaoo
low key I wanna see the runaway squad 6 stack in ranked open queue playing goats
considering half the runaway squad is in NA
That would mean that they play on quite some ping
would be hard because timezones
East Coast to Korea 
not the gengo player they want
Ngl SMS would probably be a good pickup for Guangzhou or Seoul
Wait I’ve just learnt that SMS is not a tracking hitscan player
yeh, hes projectile player
For that high grav charge rate
the zarya is leetaejun?
I think the scrim is runaway/VT players only
Which Zarya
Na1st and ChangSik aren’t VT/RA
whats VT
Titans
Vanc Titans
gg
Hmmm
It’s late in Korea
so VT/RUN/FU
what FU
FUNI
Yeah
yeah
3737😂
I'm not any better but didn't he GI like 20 - 40 and get the avoided slot thing
At some point on Sunday he was playing a large amount of flames and had a 33% wr
I mean I'm like plat so I can't talk shit tbh
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ayyy
fusion to the grand finals
pog
oof
Aight
Lmao what Seoul, dragons, Seoul??
yep
no fucking way
and nyxl
Where is our free farm of chengdu spark
idk who spanked you last weekend
genji wont be meta in 5 weeks tho
profit refuses to lose to spitfire
i mean
im not wrong
if he was on anything else he gets outclassed
hence when forced onto mei
spitfire won
Without profit carry, Seoul doodoo
I didnt know that goats was played in season 1 of grand finals
Season 1 grand finals was a lot of orisa and double sniper IIRC
I think 3-3 was played on kings and that's it
Oh
I remember double sniper on kings too
Imma rewatch it
was that before goats?
Gesture fucking pounded on the orisa
It hadn't come up the pipeline yet
The team GOATS played 3-3 like a couple months before grand finals
Might be wrong though
goats was in the grand finals
volskya
but spitfire rolled them with pharmercy and hanzo winston
profit
Pharah?
Alright
Ye
yes
But that was mostly just s2
S1 was just bad
But i think that was also because shock was just mediocre
til crusty joined
Bird played widow a ton then
Hitscan on Hanzo makes more sense than Hitscan on Pharah
Back in APEX there was a saying
The best genji/tracer duo is Rascal/Birdring
The second best genji/tracer duo is Birdring/Rascal
dang
lmaoooo
are you sure
That was before GC Busan
not even runaway or lunatic hai
KDP was always rated extremely highly in the Korean scene
did they ever win
RA, LH, and then GC edged them out
The skill in Korea has always been fucking insane
indeed
it was 4 seasons
s1 Envyus
s2 and s3 was LH
s4 was GC
We already got that a few days ago
grand final
envyus was apex?
Taimou/Harry on soldier/Cocco/Mickie on dva/Chipshajen/Hulk
NA teams were there for the first three seasons
Only envy in season 3
god
ah ok
how did mickie get so bad
Dva got nerfed and he couldn't keep up with the competition
it was more all of dallas got bad
Dallas didn't get bad, the Envy core just didn't improve
And everyone else got away from them
more talent
Envy beating Rogue in apex still one of the greatest games in ow history
You mean Rogue vs Lunatic Hai? That’s the first match i ever watched that got me hooked into esports
oh yea ironically I think envy was the 1st team in Overwatch to win a KR tournament
which was in apex
u know I thought that was for overwatch itself but damn thats a pretty big accomplishment
Yeah
Individual western pros have won tournaments in Korea before, but never a team in a team game
make sense
since Korea back then was so dominant in mobas that no western team ever got close
Do yall think the level of play In competitive overwatch has gone down or up since apex
G e n j i
S1 was teams trying to gel together for the first time
its not that hard to gels with months of preparation
teams with more resources started using them and min maxing how they play the game
Overwatch would be down to a science now if it wasn't for Covid
it would be optimized similar to stuff like Mobas and Melee
with the ever-evolving meta (thanks to hero pools) and the overall complexity of the game, i doubt it
hell owl season 1 now looks like a joke compared to season 2
@balmy wolf shame season 1 was better
It also had better viewership because of diehard envy and seoul fans
They came in droves while a lot of unknown teams at the time were bringing mediocre audiences.
Hell i even missed Florida McDonalds and their walkouts were more synchronized than zuppeh and zebbosai, the only mercy feeder in OW League
I checked today to c Jay3 become apart of OWL
If he played in owl he'd probably throw bob off the edge on purpose and look into his camera while his team got ganked
Owl season 1 was bants
Those pugs that were live yesterday are happening again
Jehong is streaming them on twitch
How did Paris win the Summer Showdown? they really shouldnt have
Sparkle and XZI popped off and everyone else pulled their weight
it was close at the end philly could have easily won
sparkle is crazy
Benbest also played really well.
even nico and soon came in and did what they could
total team effort
lol one of the req is to be able to speak korean and english
who can speak korean+english+Chinese that's already a lot of candidates lost

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profit 2 op
Yet to see anything classed as OP
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Yet to see anything classed as OP
@sullen berry sp9rk1e genji.
rip fusions
F
nanoblade simulator lmfao
Welcome to nanoblade sim I am your host Genji and today we're gonna show why I never should have been buffed and why the balance should have stayed near my level
well, genji being decent isn't bad, necessarily
but we need to stop with the orisa sig being meta again
people get bored of that
He's more than decent
he got like a 2 damage buff, a little speed, and cancelling for deflect, basically
I don't think that is enough to make him that great
Did you miss the part where the shuriken spread was heavily reduced
that did not matter much for pros
Yes it did lol
It means he hits more of those shurikens consistently and makes the one shot combo a fair bit easier for them to pull off
it was already not hard for people like whoru, haksal, sp9k1e, etc.
I am not saying it makes no difference, but that probably did not do as much for pros as the other things
for every nanoblade teamwipe their is a brig shutting it down
sp9k1e
yes
also that 2 damage buff WAS alot
That makes triple headshot do 180 damage instead of 162
meaning headshot melee can now kill
Only if you do it right and practice alot
yes but that extra damage and less spread means ult charges faster too
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I've got a question about the OWL? I was watching the summer showdown and i was confused how genjis were running around with 100 armor from brig. Didnt she get a nerf? or are they not playing with that nerf?
There's a 2 week lag for patches being introduced into owl
Oh but they have a genji buff right? didnt the genji buff and brig nerf come together?
they did not come together
oh, my bad then.
no
F for fusions lmao
If shock beat paris do you think fusion would've beaten shock
I think the shock would have steamrolled fusion like they did previously. Maybe fusion learned a bit and picks up one or two maps. But i would see shock taking it.
But that upset against the shock really worked well for them and paris didnt have too much time to prepare for them. The finals were amazing to watch.
If it came down to shock v fusion, I think shock would've came out on top
I don't see a world where Philly wins
Philly i think are too passive
If you can control the game
You can beat the shock
Or give them a run for their money
I agree
but Shock has such a hard grip in the tempo, you need a perfect type of aggression
which is why sombra goats from Houston beat them last year and why Shanghai beat them in the playoffs in stage 3
barely
outside of that, only Paris has gotten it right
as of recently shocks loses were so close it would've gone either way
when they lost to paris it was just a 1 one fight scenario
they almost 3-1 a team running genji at his strongest with tracer
in my eyes, there's a weird triangle that somewhat existed in the last years
houston can beat shock, philly will beat houston, and Shock will beat Philly
even tho Houston only did it once that one time, I could totally see them do it again
but they'd never be able to beat Philly
Houston probably would not right now, I agree
but they are improving
I did not peg them to beat Florida
even when Houston were head and shoulder above Philly, they've not had a W
I didn't either, but I think they're a specific kind of team who can upset some, will upset others, and can NEVER upset a select few
like how s1 they kept beating London, s2 they beat glads for their 1 win in stage 4, and now with Florida
yeah, they are a weird team
I expect philly or shock to win next tourny
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This is bait right
O O F 
Yeah this is totally bait. Genuine mad but he's not wrong
This house supports J1N and Sungwoo for one of the best head coaches in the League right now
J1N was around during APEX season 1 as little zarya main
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wait what is this playing rn
twich
it's also playing the older contenders theme
I can tell by listening to it
ohhh so I guess it makes sense
top overwatch players having their own local tournament
"The Emperor and his subordinates" vs Runawhy
Runner is free to play Lucio now
KR is going to be good
so basically what I'm seeing is Runaway purposely misspelt wanted to flex their new team...
who should probably be able to face this junk-ass team
with some guy named Miro
sounds washed
and some shrub named PINE 🤔
So it looks like ||SMS decided to give back to the team that got him to the OW League and joined Runner||
MIRO TRACER
Pine genji
you are watching this right
score is 2-1
and they're doing the same hero bans and lift mechanic from the APEX special last month
오버워치 계정 팔아요
Pine lmao
pls open ball
yoo
let's go
I'll doubt they need to play him for map 5
@agile sundial if you're asking what I think you want, no.
Seominsoo vs Miro
who would win trick question because Pine on Zarya was pog
Bro we talking about the tourney and some random asks to buy someone’s ow account lol
anyways they left
👍

good to see him look and feel so much better off the webcam
it's still live btw, not sure I can explain what is happening but these are some fire open comp scrims
⚔️ Bunny, DoHyeonJam vs Hardly, Na1st
🛡️ Fissure, Daco vs Bumper, Kalios
🏥 Aztec, Neko vs ParkYoungJin, RyuJeHong
buh
Na1st and Hardly playing with a bunch of amateurs on their team 
the team with Aztec has an alright tank line on paper
Are you sure that ParkYoungJin is YoungJin because that just doesn’t make sense
well it's a joke
this is an actual tournament
and none of these team names are for real, or least they were made for the tournament?>
Ah
so you're seeing here players washed and unwashed like uncooked rice
playing with some good if not great upcoming talent
Neko's been looking good on O2 Blast
and I havent' see Na1st in ages
if Guangzhou bought out the dps of Meta Bellum
We could of had happy, eileen, kyb, Na1st and nero
Are you sure that ParkYoungJin is YoungJin because that just doesn’t make sense
@tropic herald ah you're right misread
Lots of these players are Korean Tendies players
Even the tourneys name is kinda funny
Widefielderhappy
bruh
I cherche teameate mp me
It's nice to meet you but it's even better to meet me. My name is Fern, I have 290 hours with Bastion in total and I specialize in sticking it straight up the fucking culo.
Bastion is a way of life for me. Go in there, I bend them over I open its cheeks nice and wide, I get a nice clean view of the colon, prostate and the coxis, and I knuckle fuck them all the way up to the pum by the buttcock, so they feel a burning sensation deep in the ass-pussy like ice-y hot.
Bastion is a way of life for me, I never change my character fuck you, if at any point during the match you want me to change characters I'd gladly suggest you go fuck yourself. I follow absolutely no type of team composition, if you wanna give orders, give them to eachother, don't you dare to bring that shit to me.
All I know how to do is go in there, get a lot of poo-poo on my peeter, and a lot of shit on my dick from sticking it straight up their ass.
Now let's go team.
bastionmain giving his team a speech before the round be like
its amazing
Walking the line like it's a tripwire
What a lad. Good job seth
I love the fact that crusty and nineK are both plat
It’s probably a VOD on the korean Overwatch channel
Viol2t fine incoming 
what did he do?
this is the first time I've heard him speak
sounds kinda toxic, but surely he's not going to have a bad time because of it
Reddit pepegas justifying it by saying PVP is a thrower too
grand finals champions can do whatever they want, as long as they know what the league picks up on this if it gets any attention
The rest of that thread does not matter at all lol I’m just pointing out that if that part of Viol2t isn’t getting disciplined that’s a yikes
like yeah I get PVP is an ass in ranked as well but nobody is caring too much because there’s no massive hate boner for Viol2t
If gale pulled that shit gg
if keph pulled that shit gg
im sorry the lucio ult can literally be a fat finger there is no proof that's throwing
If you watch the round on PvP defense he is very clearly not playing at a GM level
He will get disciplined for saying kys
Of course this doesn’t excuse throwing but it certainly shows why someone who is just trying to play the game is tilted
watched the replay so you don't have to https://t.co/9E5mo1iktX https://t.co/J9oT13kXAG
Here’s a little montage of PvP in that game, I think most people would get tilted
wdym that's peak overwatch
it's either players like PVP are convinced they are good because they are in queues with OW League talent
or the match gets cancelled and you're faced with priority requeue as fast as blizzard can matchmake with other players
anyways I think when they blizzard aren't approached to see this, what difference does it make that Viol2t said something mean to a player
do you guys actually consider t1 the philly academy team still?
yes
it is
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Was pvp deliberately not playing at a gm level?
all I know is that it looked that way
Feel like people are going way too hard on Viol2t.
@feral zodiac no that’s actually how he plays the game
the problem with this tweet is its obviously clout chasing and being petty in general
every ranked who plays for obcence hours like pros lose their cool a lot
PVP trying to take the high horse here but thats ironic coming from him
Yeah no everything about the tweet is bad
Like yea its bad on both sides, but PvP is trying to push an agenda on someone because he cant handle ranks games apparently.
Not to mention you watch both dps and they clearly are not playing the game to a GM level
viol2t does have an infamous history in rank, but man pvp trying to act like he actually doing something good by tweeting about it
Not to forget PvP mocks Viol2ts English unintentionally or not it still happened
oh yea that too
Like why u trying to take the high horse when u keep shooting yourself in the foot?
Just leave the game and queue into another game
Who's western in shock other than super and moth

oh the coach
Architect 

Smurf is a golden god
Smurf is an amazing singer
smurf is precious
Smurf's voice is cracked
Nenne has a good voice too
ok but even Smurf misses Architect genji and he only saw it from contenders
I have heard whoru sing I think
bro have you seen this posters
fuckin insane
on reddit
I cant find the Nenne clip
Yeah they're sick as shit @next mesa
if I was more of a paris fan I would totally frame that sparkle poster
I like the london one the best
No Shanghai or Florida posters 

Wiat, are they one of the TI graphic designers
She's an event designer for third impact
Mm
What yall think about paris winning
sure but thw whole team played well
yes
but the whole reason was because of genji
they deserved the win
I thought genji would not be better than ashe echo or ashe tracer
Genji will be meta but the aggro style will be bad
not more than phily
but they proved otherwise
Teams that have a Genji that plays like Eqo will benefit from the brig nerfs
What teams u guys like
i like Toronto and Paris from beginning of s2
Dragons were decent last year too
Gladiators
Shock
Two years of meh to one year of what the fuck
Dynasty
Dragons r top 5 this yaer in the whole league.
Dynasty cycle of misery

I think Dragons are likely top three at least
R u guys mad paris won
Nah
no
Dragons just has a bad read of the meta
In this meta
I hoped fusion won
Paris and charge are better
but I think it unlikely it happens again
I had a few months of this team is bad but I like players to a year and a half of this team is busted
I wanted Paris to win
but like I dont really care
Maybe fusion as well
Yep Paris deserved the win
But in pretty much every meta
But philly aslo did
Shanghai stomp everyone except shock
I used support Atlanta too, 
what do you mean by "deserved"?
@feral zodiac we dont know that
I wanna see shangai vs parsi who else
did Houston "deserve" to beat Florida?

what
Imagine having yaki and not running genji
WHAT is wrong with thed dynasty
wasnt Paris playing with a laggy main support, while also having to face a team that almost got a free ride to the finals 20 minutes after a 5 round game with the Shock
houston deserved to beat florida 100%
Fielder @agile pewter
yeah
Their flex support
oh
Playing on 200 ping from 3am to 1pm
I would say that they did not deserve it, Florida has looked much better
I thought he was main support
Fielder 
FDGod is main support
o
Did you miss floridas form coming into this tournament?
it was looking worse than prior
Yaki thought he was was not playing well so he just played tracer. and lsot
Florida have looked worse on this
lost
I think they would’ve beat Valiant off of pools still
but Florida has still had arguably much better results
Did u guys see how sad fielser looked at the end
he wasnt sad
Fielder played from 3am to 11am
His soul was just leaving his body
Why does that mean Houston didn't deserve their win?
1pm*
the resy of paris were celebrating and hes ready to die
everyone deserved their win
Fielder was so tired he physically couldn't react to anything
if you won you deserved it
Tru
I think fielser would be best healer in the wrld if he was on 0 ping
that is unlikely
fielder
Perhaps
still he can match Alarm on 200 ping
twilight best
all of them were online
it was not as if he was online against lan
sure, there is a difference, but it is not insurmountable
Fielder fried as fuck
Paris or philly deserved to win no one else
Ttuba :)
you have strong opinions
if we go by results, Shock deserved to win the most, and Florida definitely had some "deserving"
but what happened happened
Going by results isn't a fair way to say who deserved to win though
Nope that is so true
yep
Shock was one fight away from winning on both rialto and oasis sadge
they were also one fight away from losing oasis in the first round @forest raven
it was by a miracle
Yep lol
Thankfully they didn't win 
yes
Xzi popped on rialto then sparkle popped on oasis
I hope for a philly vs paris grand final
It is currently 2-2-
2-2*
I just hope carpe wins man
when he cried on cam
widepeeposad
Carpe FeelsBadMan
Grand finals is gonna be Shock Dragons
dynasty kekw
Sparkle isn't gonna be as influential as he was in summer showdown
@digital cloud are you also dynasty fan
And sparkle didn't beat the fuck out of shock lul
dude made me main ana
man
I know Jkonak, Twilight Viol2t, new super star healers exist
but he was the goat
I literally support dynasty because lunatic hai
but miro was goat
I was impressed as heck when Lunatic Hai used Miro on monkey against rein zarya
I had basically thought that monkey was useless at the time
miro was magical ngl
Miro made people realise monkey could be viable
pretty much
miro convinced jeff that winston didnt need a buff
Jeff said it in an interview like
IN THE HANDS OF A GREAT PLAYER LIKE MIRO
Winston was op the whole time
we just never knew
the fact that dive actually existed when brawl was still a thing
that blows my mind
another one imo that I feeled opened everyone’s eyes about a hero
was stanky
now Reddit lucio is a whole huge thing people do and meme about
jjonak got zen nerfed so that was interesting
legit was just a third dps with a support ult
Bro tviq
Now we have Fearless
No Cwoosh no win
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lunatic hai is goat team
holy shit fla mayhem made the EU scene look horrible after season 1
Rogue

Runaway 
scene*
rogue selfless envy
Paris remade the EU scene look bad
didnt selfless lose every finals match against rogue?
i think
Selfless was one fight away from beating Rogue once
And then Emongg's mouse fucked up
And that's not even a joke
everyone else gone
were they relevant
Ye
They beat selfless and took rogue a long way in a final
And then disbanded
Had Shadder and Fury
Azk, ID, Mesr, Rapha, Shadder, Fury
Not mesr
Dahang
Cloud9 
Anyone know where I can find contenders trials vods from this season
They're all on YouTube but they're indexed poorly, gl
Just finished answering over 200 questions for a reddit AMA.
Ask me anything.
439
Since when was 200 answers a big deal, usually its a lot of references to the same questions half the time
But man what an AMA
Small YouTuber btw
They have one
it is in korea
they took Fusion Uni's spot
since both are owned by philly's parent org
Yah, I didnt know this at all
at least monte and co weren't the only ones supportive of Season 1's watchpoint production quality
Arhan is head coach
Na1st is cracked
Is this T1 squad going to look much better against the likes of Talon, plus 3rd generation EM and Runaway?
Lucky Future was a disappointment
And O2 Blast I've yet to see if they make any roster changes anytime soon
@sullen berry This t1 squad (With QoQ ofc) won week 1 contenders
Could this T1 squad look even better?
Clearly it's Xushu

top 3 teams in league, go
paris fusion shock
not in any particular order of course
What
I mean
Thats fine
Charge could beat fusion maybe
Looked incredibly clean in the finals
Not my dream match
But tbh
In this meta
Yeah
Eileen vs eqo
Carpe vs happy
Cr0ng vs fury
im starting to be convinced that surefour will retire this season
yeah
He deserves a break
so him leaving isn't a bad thing
Not at all no
I feel like benching surefour in a tracer meta most likely means hes going soon
What
No
Logix is a better tracer
How does that make sense
In an ashe meta
Maybe
Tracer
Def benched
Surefour is a worse tracer than logix
Or on the same level idk
idk logix's tracer was meh
But logix has seen better days
definitely
Still
the highest point in his career was beating the sinf gold 6 stack
I feel like logix has been super inconsistebt
i wont do a top 3
top 5 tho
charge dragons shock paris* philly
- only if in a genji meta
Or doom
Sp9rk1e in a doom meta
Would probably do what they did in the summer showdown
Or do even better
Phill play chipsa
They get steamrolled
Shock have no one
At all

bruh chipsa will school sparkle's ass
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Nani?
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The editor for these is cracked out of his mind
Either Google translate is bad (which it usually is) or hes more weird than we initially thought
sub or bronze
Wrong channel
shock vs boston, what do you think?
@daring geyser boston 3-0
Shock decimate them
lol
incorrect
With reliteave ease
@balmy wolf self promo isnt allowed
iirc
I will scream
Boston 3-0
Scary jerry
Correct because shock have the second greatest bench warmer in history
hes the weak link
Super
He'll play genji
super genji pls
instant throw








