esports-discussion

[next mesa]

Defiant will run out of juice

[hot heart]

Yeah

Only reason theyre winning

[balmy wolf]

defiant 3-0 fusion and defiant 4-0 shock ggez

[hot heart]

Because of genji meta

[next mesa]

They're running on adrenaline and agilities genji

[hot heart]

And brig nerfs will go through so

F for defiant fans

[earnest leaf]

imagine if shock had sinatraa for genji

[hot heart]

Eh

Architect

Genji

[earnest leaf]

or him yea

[hot heart]

Best genji

[balmy wolf]

rascal better

than sin

[hot heart]

Rascal too

[worn falcon]

Sinatraa doesnt play gengo or yes?

[hot heart]

What?

[earnest leaf]

gotta put super on genji

[hot heart]

The super genji

[worn falcon]

he deffo would be benched over Architect or Rascal

[hot heart]

Would decimate the finals

Yeah

[balmy wolf]

@earnest leaf thats why the fire started. they wouldnt let super play genji so he started a fire in la

[hot heart]

Sinatraa doom or tracer however

[earnest leaf]

lol

[tropic herald]

super genji

very poggers

[hot heart]

Super going on a rampage

[worn falcon]

Sinatraa tracer beaten by SBB in OWWC

[hot heart]

dude nyxl make me frustrated

They've always been so close to being that top tier thay you see with shock or shanghai

Then jusy fail

[next mesa]

They have striker for tracer

[hot heart]

Oh yeah

Forgot about him

[next mesa]

Bruh

Sinatraa leaving didn't change much

But super said he was going to play because sinatraa was a leader in game

And crusty likes that

[worn falcon]

Man, Uprising getting the good players, then the good players go to better teams

LOL

[karmic grotto]

So Shock gets 3 hours more time to watch paris VOD

[worn falcon]

Gotta work on that script and full upsets

[karmic grotto]

"- Crusty: We know that Paris is a threat and we don't have much VOD review time. Let's pay Blizz to delay to make a Tweet that because of technical difficulties, the match won't start."

[hot heart]

[next mesa]

Bruh

No

[hot heart]

Shock gonna shutdown sp9rk1e genji

[karmic grotto]

Here's the thing

Paris tanks create space for sparkle

You need to shutdown the tanks first

[earnest leaf]

Wonder if moth will play brig this time

[worn falcon]

Rascal is the better brig

[karmic grotto]

If the tanks of paris put pressure on shock tanks, then shock tanks won't be able to do much

the opposite is also true

[hot heart]

Will shock play the genji

Because then they have to play moth brig

[karmic grotto]

they have rascal

[hot heart]

Is rascal a better genji than sp9rk1e tho

Its a battle of genjis and the resources put into them

[true hound]

idk

[balmy wolf]

Is rascal a better genji than sp9rk1e tho
yes

[raw ermine]

ayyy asking got signed to Karasuno

[earnest leaf]

pog

can't wait for his retirement in a month

[hot heart]

Karusuno

?

[true hound]

contenders team

not the high school in haikyuu

[karmic grotto]

[true hound]

how many times has Asking retired at this point

like 4?

[karmic grotto]

He loves ow so much.

[hot heart]

Dude i thought he was still retired

[true hound]

he quits and comes back every time

proves ow is just a drug

[tropic herald]

I was today years old when I learned that owl has a blacklist but they don’t tell you if you’re on it

[hot heart]

[true hound]

oh wait what

[hot heart]

What

Wdym blacklist

[true hound]

not allowed in owl

wasnt Dafran blacklisted for Season 0 NA contenders

[tropic herald]

https://twitter.com/carter_ow/status/1279616313883635714?s=21

TI Carter (@Carter_OW)

Anyone else think it's weird that OWL blacklists players from ever competing in OWL without telling them?

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[hot heart]

Carter blacklisted

[true hound]

lmao

[tropic herald]

I wouldn t be surprised if Higan was there too

[true hound]

wondering who else

probs rando toxic ladder players

idk

[hot heart]

Some Streamers maybe

[earnest leaf]

if you're blacklisted from owl, it's 100% your doing

Probably a dickhead or asshat in some way

[worn falcon]

Ew Carter

[earnest leaf]

Or egotistical

[tropic herald]

Probably DK and Mouffin too

[worn falcon]

Also, Asking retires much as he changes his pants

[karmic grotto]

He just wants to have that sweet owl

[worn falcon]

Remember when he uninstalled OW to wait for Valorant

then Reinstalled because joined Contendies

Then leaving again

[tropic herald]

The asking cycle

[balmy wolf]

xQc probably blacklisted

[vagrant jacinth]

lmao

[true hound]

doubt it tho

[clear crane]

I dont think he is

[true hound]

if they let him in OWWC i wouldnt see why he would still be blacklisted for OWL

[clear crane]

I think Carter is referring to Higan

[karmic grotto]

Canada LMAO

[tropic herald]

Yeah, I’m fairly certain the tweet isn’t about carter himself but more Higan getting chucked

[clear crane]

Being toxic doesnt necessarily get you blacklisted, but racist remarks and being a DreamKazper/Mouffin will

although u got bigger things to worry about once ur in DK territory

[hot heart]

Surefour might be wanting to play again after the defiants run in the summer showdown

Yeah

[worn falcon]

Surefour may retire im betting

[hot heart]

Maybe

[clear crane]

I thnk S4 and Logix are very even in Widow/Ashe

with Logix taking the win in Tracer

[hot heart]

He seems to enjoy streaming

[true hound]

ye

didnt he say looking back he probably shouldnt have gone pro

[clear crane]

S4 has a lot of fun on Avast stream im seeing

him and Linkzr

[tropic herald]

S4 is very likely retiring

[balmy wolf]

babybay is retiring

:((((

[clear crane]

might be bait

[balmy wolf]

very unlikely to be bait

[karmic grotto]

S4 is washed though in my opinion

[tropic herald]

Where are eternal based

[clear crane]

prob somewhere in Cali

oh nvm they in NJ

[viral veldt]

I just told my 5year old brother owl wouldn't be on for another ither half hour and he called then little liers😂

[tropic herald]

Whatever the reasoning behind the delay is supposedly funny

[true hound]

wait

paris eternal are in nj

[worn falcon]

ye

[clear crane]

yup

[true hound]

wtf

i thought they were in paris turns out theyre in my state

[clear crane]

it was supposed to be temporary

[balmy wolf]

they wouldn't play if in paris

[clear crane]

until they got a more permanent area in Paris

Also easier to scrim against OWL teams in NA

[worn falcon]

their idea was because the homestands

but then corona appeared

[balmy wolf]

No they straight up wouldn't theyd be on 120+ ping if in paris rn

[clear crane]

right after this tourney today, fly all of Shock into Korea

and let them do their quarantine haha

music starting on stream

[feral zodiac]

How is the game going?

[tropic herald]

It is pretty good

Pretty close

[feral zodiac]

What's the score

[tropic herald]

Well

We are still on map one

[feral zodiac]

O

Is Carter blacklisted from owl?

[tropic herald]

Idk

Maybe

[feral zodiac]

Wouldn't be suprised

Gotta be honest

This montage gets better every time I see it

[true hound]

bruh this sounds like geometry dash music

[raw ermine]

brussen is back playing as well

[worn falcon]

Lets go Paris vs Toronto finals

[balmy wolf]

did shd lose to gzc?

lmaoo

[true hound]

ye 4-2

[balmy wolf]

and nyxl lost to gzc

[true hound]

super close though

[feral zodiac]

Yeah

Charge are insane in this meta

[balmy wolf]

they were always good

[feral zodiac]

Yeah

But any other meta they wouldn't hold a candle to Shanghai

[true hound]

shd smoked them as soon as they went to dive

[feral zodiac]

Just watch their game coming into this

[balmy wolf]

nyxl disappointing as always

[true hound]

but SHD had to go back to double shield

[feral zodiac]

Dive is a signature of Shanghai

If they run it

[true hound]

yh that gibraltar match

[feral zodiac]

You are fucked

[true hound]

the shanghai Winston Sigma McCree Soldier Ana Zen though

[balmy wolf]

gzc deserves it

[feral zodiac]

Ofc

[balmy wolf]

they prob wouldve lost if hotba was still in the team

[clear crane]

Lip def should have been in

[true hound]

95

what the hell

[clear crane]

Its not just the Widow play, it just seems like SHD are a different team with Lip in then Diem

[true hound]

i think diem did fine

[clear crane]

lmfao Chipsa

[true hound]

but like

[balmy wolf]

coaching and decision making

[true hound]

he got dove by eileen over and over

on blizz world

[worn falcon]

Chipsa benching since start of the season

[tropic herald]

https://twitter.com/legday/status/1279856372193071106?s=21

Harry ‘LEGDAY’ Pollitt (@LEGDAY)

I bet we have a delay because Super deleted Overwatch off of his PC to make room for Worms: Reloaded and forgot to reinstall it when he was done playing Worms: Reloaded.

#OWL2020

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I hate how this is realistic

[balmy wolf]

lol

i hope paris vs shock is going to be a good match

[feral zodiac]

Lol

[viral veldt]

Who is Nero?

[worn falcon]

dps for charge

[raw ermine]

the flex dps for charge

[viral veldt]

Thx

[balmy wolf]

carpe gonna dink everyone

[true hound]

mr logix though

[feral zodiac]

So many contenders for mvp this tournament jeez

[clear crane]

yay Eqo again

[tropic herald]

Runaway now is not OWL level, as fanboy-triggering as that sounds. People loved them for their underdog streak, and their vibrant brand/personality, but expecting them to get pick up is very unrealistic. They still have to actually win something first

[balmy wolf]

philly v toronto

philly wins

[worn falcon]

is that a copy pasta? @tropic herald

[clear crane]

wtf 45%

thats higher then Decay

[balmy wolf]

@tropic herald u talking about runaway now?

[feral zodiac]

45% holy shit

[balmy wolf]

or a copy pasta

[feral zodiac]

Only ans has ever got higher

[clear crane]

thats a copypasta

from beginning of S2

[balmy wolf]

ans cheating

shock is likely to win bc they have crazy insane players and synergy

[true hound]

ans with 56% on Ilios, Carpe with 45% on Junkertown, and 42% Decay on Rialto

guess thats the list for now

didnt Corey and Happy get 42% last year?

[tropic herald]

Yeah

Probably

[feral zodiac]

Didn't dinkzr get 40 something against mayhem

[true hound]

33% over the course of the full game

[feral zodiac]

Still insane

[true hound]

yeah

[feral zodiac]

But jeez

[true hound]

thats really damn good

33% across 4 maps

[feral zodiac]

What's happy's best this year?

[true hound]

not sure

[balmy wolf]

hopefully sado is not bado

[clear crane]

Nori!!!!

[feral zodiac]

Usually he's good

[balmy wolf]

for some reason he gets picked a lot

it comes down to teamwork, communication, and the supports

[clear crane]

Sado is prob the 2nd most improved tank this year

from last

[true hound]

#1 muma

[balmy wolf]

what i see from these teams is that theyre quite messy

[worn falcon]

@clear crane that was Miso :P

[clear crane]

ah the good ol OWL vs OWL

[worn falcon]

Nori is the fluffiest one

[clear crane]

ah oops

[feral zodiac]

Most improved

I'd say cr0ng or fearless

[worn falcon]

sparkle gonna feed on gengo

[clear crane]

Crong a rookie I believe

[feral zodiac]

Ah

My bad

Charge got 3-0'd by shanghai then beat them in the rematch before hand

Paris got 3-0'd by shock and now it's a rematch

Two top teams losing to the team they 3-0'd before

[worn falcon]

dem stats

[vagrant jacinth]

if shock lose i'll be so hype lmao

my body is ready for another upset

[short sparrow]

Shanghai was supposedly better than Charge, but not A LOT better

But Shock

They ARE WAY better than Eternal

Also, I'm an Eternal fan

[true hound]

super permabenched

sad

[clear crane]

93% accretion hits????

[worn falcon]

Hogyobin

[clear crane]

wait wtf????

[true hound]

i think by efficiency it means like

93% of the time he hits an accretion someone dies

[vagrant jacinth]

ay i know there's a very small chance of it happening, but i can dream

[worn falcon]

200 ping sleep

[clear crane]

This was a skill shot

not luck

whatever ppl say

[feral zodiac]

Reign are meant to be a lot better than defiant

And defiant beat them

I think you're missing the point of an upset

Like, charge beating Shanghai wasn't an upset

Just people don't normally watch charges games so they're largely unknown to most of the western people

[true hound]

j omegalul ke

[feral zodiac]

And people banged on about Shanghai non stop

[clear crane]

SHD have not looked nearly as invincible as Shock

whether its cause of the quality teams around them, who knows, but yea Paris winning here would be major upset

[tropic herald]

I just want to see scrims Shanghai

[ebon aurora]

Assuming this ends up as Philly v Shock I think Philly wins the Genji matchup

EQO Genji > Rascal Genji

[clear crane]

I dont think Shock will bother running Genji

[ebon aurora]

what do they run instead since Genji is meta atm

[tropic herald]

Tracer

[clear crane]

Prob what they been doing. Tracer/Ashe/Widow

When you got the best Widow and Tracer in the world combined with that tank/support line you can do whatever you want and win

[ebon aurora]

is Ans better than Carpe on Widow?

that's a big claim

[clear crane]

Its close. I hope we see that matchup today if they both make it to finals

[ebon aurora]

tanks and supports I agree though

I think Moth and Viol2t just outclass Alarm and Astro

but only just

[clear crane]

Junkertown to me shows they are gonna rather have Heesu on Tracer/ Carpe Widow if they run that

[muted shale]

I am still lowkey on Defiant that will upset fusion

[true hound]

maybe

fusion still has EQO for the genji

[ebon aurora]

If Agilities pops off

maybe

[clear crane]

I wonder if Astro plays outside of control

he hasnt the 2 weeks, and Alarm has taken Brig duty over Bap

[balmy wolf]

wasn't sfs shock match the one to start first ?

[muted shale]

Yea

Technical issue's

[balmy wolf]

ohh

[clear crane]

Xzi vs Ans will be nice

[muted shale]

It was even meant to start an hour ago

[vagrant jacinth]

if agilities turns up then yeah

[balmy wolf]

Toronto winnign would be huge , SFS will probably win but i just hope someone else maybe if sp9rkle goes even harder with Genji then ever then we might see a dethrone

[muted shale]

Toronto has been playing fine and I find them the only team that has a chance to upset fusion/SFS

[ebon aurora]

I still don't understand how Defiant look so good in this tournament when Dallas 3-0ed them in this meta last week

and that was without Decay

[muted shale]

Bad day maybe

[clear crane]

and the week before Vancouver 3-0ed Dallas where Defiant 3-0ed Van

nothing makes sense anymore

[ebon aurora]

that was with hero pools

the Dallas win wasn't

who played Genji for Atlanta?

[true hound]

erster i think

[balmy wolf]

yeah

[clear crane]

Edison

[muted shale]

Yeah Erster

[clear crane]

Erster didnt play yesterday which was surprising

[next mesa]

Did it start

[balmy wolf]

Anyone know if babybay is quitting overwatch or just leavign the overwatch league scene /

[worn falcon]

Erster genji was...something

[muted shale]

"EQO calls Defiant weak" damn

[forest token]

erster playing genji like it's BEAT s5

[feral zodiac]

Eqo the genji god

Vs agilities the super sonic turbo ninja

[clear crane]

Play Chipsa!

[balmy wolf]

why does funnyastro look like that one jeff dunham puppet

peanut i think?

[outer zenith]

I'd say that EQO is an "esteemed" Genji. Not quite a god just yet.

[true hound]

when u bench sdb

that says something ngl

[forest token]

eqo got signed right before genji fell out of meta so im not sure how good he is

from what I remember he plays safe mechanically, but I could be misremembering

[worn falcon]

more safe than sdb yes

[forest token]

probably got better blades than agilities tho kekw

[outer zenith]

SDB was benched because EQO's more aggressive style gelled with the Philly team as a whole better than SDB's passive one.

[true hound]

true

sdb loves holding them blades

[clear crane]

Sado press W!

and he has his ult

nice

[true hound]

w

[dark hedge]

tf

[worn falcon]

Symmetra Carpe

[karmic grotto]

XD

[idle ore]

wiped..

[worn falcon]

[dark hedge]

i thought sado was bad

[karmic grotto]

Fusion is not joking

Not this time

[forest token]

that's the rein/orisa combo I was thinking of

cuz they were grouped

[karmic grotto]

but it was the first fight

Let's see what will happen

[true hound]

that was like a 5 sec shatter zoo wee mama

[forest token]

so they just speedboost + halt and swing into them

you get like 3 6-man swings

[true hound]

and kariv has window already..?

[forest token]

which is like what

[karmic grotto]

lol

[forest token]

450 dmg total?

[karmic grotto]

sado establishing dominance

[worn falcon]

Nice save on Sado

[muted shale]

Damn numlocked fucked rein ulti

[forest token]

land a firestrike and that's 1050 dmg

[outer zenith]

Remember when Li Jiang Gardens was a Pharah map instead?

[forest token]

sdb pepehands

[worn falcon]

???

that shatter

[true hound]

this is a fun af pharah map

[forest token]

it hit agilities, they just didn't quite get the followup

and might as well throw it out, he'll get another next fight

[clear crane]

Nice hold

1 more fight

[outer zenith]

This is bad for Philly.

[forest token]

philly needs to be playing faster and drawing out ults

[true hound]

almost matched in ults

[forest token]

the defensive advantage with sym is insane

[true hound]

wtf am i looking at

so much shit on my screen

[clear crane]

llolll Sado

jesus

[outer zenith]

They tried to drag it out, and get more ults out of Toronto that way, but Defiant didn't bite. They just waited and won by investing 1 ult.

[worn falcon]

Nice Carpe save

[muted shale]

Damn

[outer zenith]

But DAAAAAAMN

[worn falcon]

[forest token]

nvm carpe carry

[elfin venture]

Gg

[dark hedge]

lmao

defiant played well tho

didnt get completely rolled

[outer zenith]

They still pulled it out. Well done.

[elfin venture]

Yes

Toronto has a serious chance

[worn falcon]

Logix lol

[forest token]

logix almost throwing

[feral zodiac]

So many kills at once

[forest token]

bro what the fuck

[true hound]

eqo just vibing in the back

[forest token]

eqo wasn't ready

why are you fighting

[muted shale]

Not liking the comp from fusion

Why did they even switch

[forest token]

numlocked dies if they kite the engage until he's ready

[feral zodiac]

Imagine If defiant make it to the finals

[forest token]

what the ffuuuuuuuuck

[feral zodiac]

How cracked would that be

[true hound]

was numlocked about to get nuked by astro lmao

[worn falcon]

Eqo...

lol

[outer zenith]

Did his job.

[true hound]

did the man just get frozen midblade

[muted shale]

Invested quite the ulti's and barely won it

[outer zenith]

He put in the damage and created space.

[worn falcon]

yes, he bladed during Lucio's ult

[feral zodiac]

F for eqo

[forest token]

I wouldn't say barely, I didn't see frontline battle

[muted shale]

He did get frozen midblade, if he was taken down it could of went either way

[true hound]

OO

[clear crane]

BEAMMMM

[worn falcon]

LOGIX

[clear crane]

MICROWAVEEE

[true hound]

LOGIX

[outer zenith]

Blizzard? Yummy.

[worn falcon]

[true hound]

THE LEFT CLICK

[outer zenith]

[true hound]

alarm

what

[muted shale]

Wait don't throw defiant

[worn falcon]

Logix went bzzzzzzzt

[karmic grotto]

??????????????

[forest token]

defiant get spawners first

[feral zodiac]

????

[true hound]

numlocked

???

that was an lhcloudy move

[clear crane]

yea that was bad

[true hound]

probs going for the reset

[muted shale]

Bob is bad

[outer zenith]

[muted shale]

The bob gave literally nothing

[karmic grotto]

unlucky

[forest token]

bro

[worn falcon]

pogger my doggers

[karmic grotto]

for real

[forest token]

eqo threw

deadass

[karmic grotto]

carpe unlucky

[feral zodiac]

Defiaaaant

[clear crane]

nice round

[true hound]

oo

jesus that was close

[deep wolf]

defiant really doesnt like bracket people

[true hound]

carpe doomfist

[ebon aurora]

what an incredible round

[silk frost]

fucking what

[forest token]

eqo with the bot mechanics

could've saved round

instead lucio lives and kills him and carpe

[true hound]

imagine if carpe clutched that out

[dark hedge]

this is a lot closer than it should be

[worn falcon]

carpe could have clutched that before the rein came

[outer zenith]

EQO also almost saved that round, so he can get a pass on that.

[true hound]

the microwave

[forest token]

eqo keeps getting his iceblock forced so early

[feral zodiac]

Numlooooocked

[clear crane]

ooo nice shatter

[true hound]

carpe flank

lmao

nvm

[karmic grotto]

[worn falcon]

Phily is playing annoyingly bad this time

[karmic grotto]

Why exactly is EQO Mei

[next mesa]

What's going on

[karmic grotto]

when ivy is better

[clear crane]

Oooof

[true hound]

because they need him to flex to gengi

[karmic grotto]

sado outclassed?

[feral zodiac]

Defiant are playing well

But fusion are playing pretty poorly

[karmic grotto]

It's not their meta though

at least, not in this mirror

[outer zenith]

@karmic grotto Because they need a Genji first and foremost, but also someone who can run the Mei.

[hot heart]

Why is Toronto doing well

[dark hedge]

agilities

and the tanks are actually good now

[hot heart]

O

[feral zodiac]

Logix is decent

[dark hedge]

^

[feral zodiac]

And kariv has always been a god

[elfin venture]

Numlocked??

[hot heart]

Logix has always been decent

[true hound]

kariv = god

[hot heart]

Kariv Ana god

[feral zodiac]

Yeah but he's really turning up this tournament

[clear crane]

GG

[outer zenith]

BIG SLAM

[worn falcon]

Sado what a fat shatter

[muted shale]

Gg thats map 1

[karmic grotto]

xD

astro lol

[forest token]

rein comps are fucking lit

[feral zodiac]

Sado is mado

[worn falcon]

Nevix is a chair

[feral zodiac]

Defiant could legit make this close

Hell

[outer zenith]

I'd sit on Nevix...

[feral zodiac]

They could win at this rate

[next mesa]

What's going on

Is map 1 over

[forest token]

ye

[feral zodiac]

Defiant being cracked

[forest token]

there's no way defiant take this

[clear crane]

Defiant always lose map 1

[elfin venture]

Yes

[lean spire]

It’s genji time mother fuckers

[next mesa]

Control is not very accurate

[clear crane]

Nothing new here

[feral zodiac]

Doggo what happened to your messages

[outer zenith]

[frozen perch]

Is Sym meta in Control maps or is it just a Lijiang Tower thing

[feral zodiac]

Lijiang thing

[forest token]

its map dependent

[next mesa]

Carpe doom fist? @true hound

[elfin venture]

@feral zodiac deleting them, idk but every time I write something Toronto looses OMEGALUL

[true hound]

carpe d o o m

[feral zodiac]

[true hound]

he played it to stall

[next mesa]

Why is chipsa not on doom fist

O

I see

Nvm

[feral zodiac]

Wtf just bring in chipSa

[elfin venture]

Yes

We need chipsa

[next mesa]

Just let chipsa play ffs

[true hound]

u play Sym in the closed off area rounds

like

[next mesa]

Easy dub

[true hound]

Night Market, Lighthouse, etc.

those are fresh there

[tawdry hamlet]

I still have not gotten my tokens I am such a slut for free tokens

[lean spire]

That first map was kinda insane

Like that was peak overwatch tbh

[next mesa]

Rl

[muted shale]

I have only received once my tokens

[outer zenith]

Unlucky.

[muted shale]

And still haven't again after now what 3 hours of watching together

[tawdry hamlet]

I got 25 on the 3rd and have not gotten more since and I have watched every game since yesterday na

[muted shale]

I just bought 100 on my own cause I couldn't care smh

[clear crane]

Easy win here leggo Tor

[tawdry hamlet]

hopefully they come through eventually since I have watched like 6 hours

[muted shale]

Time to see Agilties and Eqo genji's

[true hound]

yeah

[tawdry hamlet]

lmao

[true hound]

lulw xqc's ow stream close to OWL viewership

[tawdry hamlet]

Carpe stoppp

[forest token]

they lost out on so much pressure from that dynamite

what is with pros and blading like shit

[tawdry hamlet]

It was far fetched for toronto to go any further

[outer zenith]

OOF

[true hound]

welp the retake

sig and orisa just dont die

[outer zenith]

What a fight.

[dark hedge]

lmao

[muted shale]

Now Defiant does have no ulti's at all

[karmic grotto]

[dark hedge]

the flux at the end wasnt needed

[muted shale]

Yeah

[forest token]

I mean you have what, an ashe and a bap behind a window?

[tawdry hamlet]

this series is definitely going to fusion lmao

[forest token]

and if that finds value you can straight up lose the fight

[tawdry hamlet]

fusion just decimate all their pushes

[muted shale]

Ugh they lost completely with only sigma ult used

[forest token]

cuz I think dynamite is boosted by window

so a double damage dynamite then ashe and bap spam

[outer zenith]

I can't truly blame Nevix for that.

[tawdry hamlet]

oof

that blade

[forest token]

STOP BRUNGING DAHSHS

[tawdry hamlet]

[forest token]

AGILITIES

[muted shale]

Blade got nothing but made them backup hard

[clear crane]

unluckyyyy

[worn falcon]

lol

[outer zenith]

[karmic grotto]

lulw

agilities another blade

[worn falcon]

not spamming i need healing

smh

[forest token]

you can't slash/dash/slash a 400hp target even with bongo

and the instant dash is out there's so much counterplay to blade

[tawdry hamlet]

ooh

[muted shale]

I didn't like fusion using flux there

[tawdry hamlet]

that was a nice blade

[clear crane]

Agilities about to lap Eqo

[muted shale]

Defiant now has bob and rally they can close it out

[outer zenith]

@forest token Yes, you can.

[forest token]

can you?

[outer zenith]

Mmhm.

[forest token]

120 + 120 + 50 -> 290

[outer zenith]

Supercharge gives you 50% extra damage, same as Nano.

[tawdry hamlet]

it is just so crazy watching the defiant get a slight advantage and then boom whole push gone

[forest token]

• 50% is 290 + 145

[outer zenith]

Slash - Dash - Slash is enough to kill 400 HP heroes.

[forest token]

huh

why did I not think you could do that

[clear crane]

nice finish

[muted shale]

Agilities so good

[tawdry hamlet]

for sure

[dark hedge]

bro

[raw ermine]

ayy we have time

[dark hedge]

agilities

[forest token]

how much does bap heal

[dark hedge]

pog

@forest token 50 per shot

[outer zenith]

50 a shot.

[worn falcon]

Lets gooooo Paris vs Toronto finals

[tawdry hamlet]

lmao

[forest token]

yeah so any kind of healing denies that breakpoint

[tawdry hamlet]

Shock unless they have a stroke are going to win

[forest token]

cuz it's 35 dmg over

[tawdry hamlet]

which sucks

[forest token]

and if it's a tank you kinda have to assume they're gonna get spammed healing

[tawdry hamlet]

unless fusion maybe because carpe going off

[lean spire]

LETS GO

LETS GO

LETS GO

[forest token]

so yeah still not a great dash

[outer zenith]

I don't disagree with that.

[forest token]

?????????

[clear crane]

RIP

[muted shale]

Damn lost that way to quick

[forest token]

ye fight would've been instantly over

[muted shale]

Woops and yeah

[forest token]

the flux put them so far ahead that it didn't really matter tho

[muted shale]

But they might of not needed blade then

Flux + that dynamite would of ended it

[outer zenith]

Walk away and let the Ashe burn to death from her own Dynamite. Gangsta.

[forest token]

more like "I can't hit the shot so I'm going to let her burn out instead"

[outer zenith]

Maybe, but you can't prove it.

Okay. THAT Flux was unnecessary.

[worn falcon]

ayyy

dead by ally wall

[tropic herald]

Yeah Toronto is losing

But I think we can all appreciate that the team not playing Mei is losing

[worn falcon]

Buff Mei

[tropic herald]

No Cuyo

[outer zenith]

The team not playing Mei (at the moment) is winning.

[clear crane]

wait wat

yea they winning lol

[tulip shore]

Anyone know what in game sensitivity settings players that use 4800 dpi use

Heard the average in owl is 4800 dpi

[forest token]

4800 edpi

dpi * in-game sens

[outer zenith]

Take that to General-Discussion.

[clear crane]

@tulip shore google pro settings overwatch gear list

its all there

[karmic grotto]

[clear crane]

gg 2-0

[karmic grotto]

That was

Such bad

Positioning

This is pro play btw

"Let us go on the other side of the map without defending the point"

[elfin venture]

Alarm is wearing a jeans

A JEANS

WHILE PLAYING OW

[tropic herald]

Day whatever of asking blizzard to nerf pull

[next mesa]

Jeans wtd

Play naked or bad

[karmic grotto]

Alarm just has style

You guys are jealous

[muted shale]

Hope it doesn't become a 3-0 Defiant are playing quite well

[grizzled mango]

someone tell me why they aren't playing genji mirror on defense

[novel pelican]

they reliant on mei's def potential on kings row

[tulip shore]

@clear crane ok I'll prob go in game at 1 and then 4800 dpi

[clear crane]

at 1?

oh in game sen

I play at 6 for most heroes besides hitscans where i go 5.5 and then my dpi is 800

[novel pelican]

what the

take this to #overwatch

[clear crane]

its like 5 messages lol relax

[grizzled mango]

@novel pelican yes but they aren't doing well. Genji comp is what has gotten toronto map wins also I would say genji is pretty good 1st point

like it's so counterintuitive to me

[novel pelican]

eh you'd have to ask the coaching staff what they think

mei has seen great potential on first point kings row

also, imo

defiant cant compete against fusion in the mirror matchups

agilities is the better genji, but carpe and boombox, not to mention alarm's brig, is doing better than logix

stats right here

[grizzled mango]

I agree with that fusions are the most mechanically and individually the best team in OWL

[clear crane]

ehhhhh

[novel pelican]

i wouldnt say that exactly

[grizzled mango]

but like you said I think agilities can outdo eqo on genji so Idk why they don't just one trick that. Mei may have potential but not on toronto

[novel pelican]

but their individual talent is some of the higher ones yeah

again, mirror matchups

[grizzled mango]

name a team more individually talented than fusions except shock

[novel pelican]

mirror matchups are only applied when the player believes they can outskill the other mirror

[grizzled mango]

shock dont count

well kind of but they are mirroring every other role

[novel pelican]

thats why you apply different heroes to find a better outlet for victory

[grizzled mango]

playstyle will change slightly but running genji is the xfactor for toronto imo

[novel pelican]

maybe, but its still dependent on the mirror

you'd have to have logix swap off the ashe, or something else

i dont see it being feasible for defiant to win against fusion if they try to mirror

[grizzled mango]

different opinions but I think they do better at least running genji instead of mei

it's not like agilities is good at mei

[next mesa]

The carpe advantage is too much for defiant

@grizzled mango dragons?

I guess it's debatable

[grizzled mango]

dragons have crazy good synergy but individually I put phily above them

[novel pelican]

agilities is good at mei wym

[grizzled mango]

I would say dragon is the better team obviously

[novel pelican]

hes better on the genji for sure but agilities is definitely strong at mei

[next mesa]

I think dynasty has always been a very individually talented team but the results don't meet the expectations

[grizzled mango]

his mei got better over the season but he makes some questionable decisions on mei

[novel pelican]

but ur still missing my point: you dont want agilities to run genji because then you force a mirror matchup, and as i said earlier, the defiant arent as good as fusion in the mirror

[clear crane]

Toronto has to run Agilities Genji

They have no chance otherwise

[novel pelican]

and if you want agilities to run the genji and have a better chance of winning, you have to swap ur other dps/support line

[clear crane]

If they lose, they will go down with this comp

[novel pelican]

running the mirror will make defiant not have a chance

well actually thats a lie

[clear crane]

The only reason they got this far was this comp

[grizzled mango]

I fully understand your point. But I dont really agree with it. Every other roles except mei/genji is still mirrored. Bringing in mei does change up the playstyle but it doesn't really change the fact that fusions are significantly better like you said. I think the x factor is agilities on genji though

[next mesa]

Yes legacy I agree

[novel pelican]

yes, and the dps duo between logix and agilities were better than the other team dps duo in the mirror matchup

[next mesa]

Not mirror

Not against the valiant for example

[novel pelican]

but now that carpe is clearly the better ashe, defiant will either have to step up their game and logix get much better, or make non-mirror matchups

[karmic grotto]

?

Defiant plays fear

[clear crane]

Non-mirror and being out of their comfort zone gives them less of a chance to me.

[karmic grotto]

Not fear, play with hesitation

[clear crane]

They aren't expected to win they know that

[karmic grotto]

They need to move

[clear crane]

so might as well just run what they are best at

[grizzled mango]

^ agilities genji is the x factor imo

agilities builds blade really fast too

[clear crane]

Theres a better chance of Tor winning with Agilities and Logix turning it higher than Carpe/Eqo then running any other comp

[muted shale]

Yeah this will be a 3-0

[outer zenith]

People are always clamoring for teams to play to their strengths rather than blindly following the meta. Both of these teams are playing to those strengths here.

[grizzled mango]

I mean I don't think anyone was questioning the outcome of the match but I do wish they go out playing what they are best and most confident at

[true hound]

oof rip

[grizzled mango]

logix is good but carpe is just too good

logix is absolutely outshadowed

[lean spire]

Toronto showed some of phillys flaws on the first two maps

[clear crane]

gg this is over

[lean spire]

Gg

Philly are gonna get destroyed by the shock tbh

[clear crane]

At least the 1 hour delay we had this morning is kinda getting made up

[muted shale]

Defiant still played really well

[clear crane]

we will be back on track if Shock 3-0 Paris lol

[muted shale]

Hope they can improve

[grizzled mango]

I think defiant exceeded expectations this tourney

[outer zenith]

EVERYONE is likely to get destroyed by the Shock. That doesn't really say anything new.

[lean spire]

I do think that mechanically Toronto DPS are better

[novel pelican]

uh

no carpe is styling on logix rn

[grizzled mango]

agilities vs eqo maybe logix vs carpe hell no

[lean spire]

Carpe is styling on logix because of the tank difference

From what I’m seeing

[novel pelican]

the tank diff isnt as bad

[muted shale]

gg

[true hound]

oh jesus

[lean spire]

The tank diff and comms diff is really bad...

[dark hedge]

gg

[true hound]

gg

[grizzled mango]

tank diff is pretty bad but I don't think thats the reason for logix being worse than carpe

[true hound]

did numlocked get halted right into the window?

cause he got deleted instantly

[grizzled mango]

I see paris taking at least one map

or at least i hope so 😛

[clear crane]

hats off to Toronto

[lean spire]

People forget how cracked logix is

[muted shale]

I thought defiant would also be able to take 1

[clear crane]

Hopefully they build onto this for the countdown cup

[muted shale]

First and second map was close

[balmy wolf]

Numlocked feeding

[muted shale]

But third was just a stomp

[lean spire]

This match shows Toronto have just a few issues

[grizzled mango]

mentally boomed rip

[lean spire]

With tanks and communication

[novel pelican]

logix is cracked, but carpe is even more cracked

[balmy wolf]

Toronto needs to find a better tank to replace numlocked

[grizzled mango]

I agree toronto plays with so much confusion

hesitates alot

[lean spire]

They just aren’t practiced well

Their mechanics are above avg

[novel pelican]

i get that logix hasnt been able to show all his abilities, but carpe is still doing much better

[lean spire]

Kariv has played amazing this tourney

[tropic herald]

That was disappointing

[grizzled mango]

kariv always pops off

[tropic herald]

Defiant got hot just to get smashed

[lean spire]

I seriously think a logix Carpe 1v1 would be very even

[dark hedge]

defiant got really far tho

[lean spire]

This wasn’t a disappointment at all

[grizzled mango]

I think first two maps looked pretty good for toronto although genji>mei

[lean spire]

First two maps close as hell

[novel pelican]

surefour where

[grizzled mango]

logix>surefour

[balmy wolf]

Agilities, Kariv, Logix, Nevix aren’t bad

Everyone else sucked

[outer zenith]

Defiant went from a lower-mid table team to an upper level contender in one weekend. I'm satisfied.

[woeful crest]

What happened to Wanted?

[novel pelican]

i honestly couldve seen surefour on the swap for logix

[true hound]

wanted quit for valorant i believe

[novel pelican]

surefour has better comms imo, better organization

[grizzled mango]

pretty sure coaches have said surefour is very silent

[woeful crest]

He did. But hasn’t been live for over a month. Nothing on his twitter either

[novel pelican]

couldve used surefour comms, not to mention his ashe is pretty nutty too

[outer zenith]

If Surefour was better, he'd most likely be in.

He wasn't...

[inland flare]

Did chipsa play

[novel pelican]

lol no

theres no questioning that logix is the better ashe than s4

[grizzled mango]

he carried from bench

[novel pelican]

but we couldve seen more organized play with s4 in the mix imo

[grizzled mango]

I think they are pretty similar but logix has more pop off potential

[novel pelican]

last map was hella confused from the defiant

[grizzled mango]

idk why people think s4 will lead to better comms

[novel pelican]

not to mention 2nd map 2nd def from the defiant

idk this is purely my opinion

[dark hedge]

defiant boomed after getting rolled on kings row defense

[clear crane]

ah good ol Philly vs OWL

OWL 4-0 Fusion

[lean spire]

all Toronto needs is a main tank

[outer zenith]

Overwatch League is about to take the whole enchilada.

[novel pelican]

they got beast and numlocked

[lean spire]

Yeah. Neither of them really have big brains

[novel pelican]

couldve tried beast, but i think the biggest thing is just unorganized play

[lean spire]

Toronto has no leader

The comms are fucked

Anyways

I think xzi will do fine against ans

[outer zenith]

Hopefully Paris have some incredible "comms".

ANS with the Widow Gang tattoos.

[clear crane]

look at choi lmao

hes like we got thissss

[outer zenith]

Twilight isn't even wearing a jersey. Where's the damn ref?

[clear crane]

smurf said fuck the camera

[outer zenith]

These Shock players are degenerates.

[true hound]

lmao

rood

[feral zodiac]

Sp9rkle just feeding

[worn falcon]

rip xzi

[feral zodiac]

Ans out for blood again

[lean spire]

This is GGs

[feral zodiac]

Legit

Ooh wait a minute

[clear crane]

GO ETERNAL!

[worn falcon]

Benbest????

[rare magnet]

how can a team just be so dominant it takes out all the fun

[lean spire]

Yoo

[clear crane]

😮

[rare magnet]

too soon

[clear crane]

At least its competitive so far

[worn falcon]

YOOOOO

[deep wolf]

WHAT

[true hound]

whaa

[worn falcon]

WTF

[true hound]

WHAT

[clear crane]

LETS GOOOOOO

[true hound]

WHAAAAAt

[karmic grotto]

[tropic herald]

So we got a match

[karmic grotto]

Hanbin with the 1000 IQ ball

[rare magnet]

i thought they lost when shock got the two picks

[tropic herald]

Hanbin on da ball

[lean spire]

YOO

[deep wolf]

soon https://i.imgur.com/JAIEKNa.png

[karmic grotto]

^^

[deep wolf]

sombra

woo

[clear crane]

😮

[deep wolf]

80% already

[true hound]

hey hey shock

look behind u

[deep wolf]

oh man

[clear crane]

wow how did they turn that around

holy shit

[worn falcon]

Bro those heals are insane

WTF

[lean spire]

Damn

[true hound]

even still

paris jsut won themselves a win condition

cause shock refused to look bacc

[grizzled mango]

literally built a whole emp lol

[balmy wolf]

I beg these teams to stop pushing so aggressively

[deep wolf]

eternal > fusion?

[balmy wolf]

Like you’re playing against shock

[lean spire]

I love Sombra

[balmy wolf]

They can easily win with a few down

Ans aimbottttt

[lean spire]

Ans is so fucking cracked

[balmy wolf]

xd

[viscid path]

if you wanna join our esports team pushing for conenders we need every role and we like about 2.5k to 3.0k

[balmy wolf]

What are the chances

That’s pretty low

Imagine xzi gets stunned

[outer zenith]

Oof.

[vagrant jacinth]

oof

[dark hedge]

does xzi even play sombra

[balmy wolf]

Paris relies way too much on dps

[feral zodiac]

Nano incoming

[vagrant jacinth]

garbage emp

[clear crane]

lmfao Smurf went for it again

[outer zenith]

Xzi got poked out of invis.

He had to go then.

[feral zodiac]

Xzi wins the duel

[dark hedge]

why was he even there

[balmy wolf]

Paris needs to win

[worn falcon]

how the fuck sparkle bulds ult so fast

[feral zodiac]

Shock might actually hold this holy shit

Holy

Shit

Did jake

Just say

[deep wolf]

D:

[worn falcon]

DAMN

[true hound]

noo

[feral zodiac]

Choi used blade

[vagrant jacinth]

wow

[clear crane]

Sig9

hehe

[lean spire]

They really just lost a 2 man advantage

[karmic grotto]

Ngl, XZI is actually doing good vs ans on mirror

[grizzled mango]

xzi is still underrated somehow

[lean spire]

Yeah xzi = ans

[urban wasp]

^^ yes

[lean spire]

They’re pretty even

[balmy wolf]

I feel like the tanks are pushing way too far

Chill out Paris

Holy fk

[urban wasp]

Ya

And like ans isnt even playing widow

[feral zodiac]

Xzi

[urban wasp]

He has more middle control

[feral zodiac]

Strikeeeerrrr

[urban wasp]

Cuz of dinomite

STRIKER

What tf

Less gooo

[balmy wolf]

Paris needs a whole Korean roster lol

[urban wasp]

Hahah ya

No lover boys

[outer zenith]

Tracer's always try that.

[feral zodiac]

We got a game they said

[balmy wolf]

Sparkle playing genji may lose them the game

[grizzled mango]

I think benbest and fdgod are playing well no need to replace them imo

[urban wasp]

Hanbin????

Howww

[balmy wolf]

Communication and such

[lean spire]

What a throw

[urban wasp]

Throwiong shock

[outer zenith]

Speaking of overextending...

[feral zodiac]

Lol

[lean spire]

Why did jake sound not supported

[balmy wolf]

The tanks kept pushing in

[lean spire]

Suprised

[balmy wolf]

Or something

[feral zodiac]

Viol2t

[grizzled mango]

you don't need to know much english to effectively communicate in game