esports-discussion

[severe tusk]

gz have the ult advantage

[dreamy cave]

bruh

[severe tusk]

if they play this well they can take it away

[dreamy cave]

LIP HEADSHOT

[sour magnet]

mirror > sights

SHD are in better pos

[raw ermine]

L

FLETA

[sour magnet]

LOL

[raw ermine]

Kabaji play

[balmy wolf]

Anyone getting frames

[raw ermine]

"I got one!"

[dreamy cave]

"2?"

[forest raven]

Shanghai boutta lose off a c9

Oh thank god

[tropic herald]

Shanghai

[raw ermine]

oh boy

[tropic herald]

Poggers

[sour magnet]

Bap is so good this meta

[severe tusk]

jesus christ the clutch in this team

[vagrant jacinth]

Omg

[karmic grotto]

Close

[clear crane]

2 DOWN

2 MORE TO GO

[raw ermine]

another one

[tropic herald]

Reverse sweep

[raw ermine]

omg

[severe tusk]

the clutch in this team is insane

[true hound]

The script

[sleek tapir]

Reverse sweep incoming

[vagrant jacinth]

stop the reverse sweep pls

[forest raven]

[karmic grotto]

Titans like clutch

[ebon aurora]

it's happening again

[forest raven]

Never sub out lip

[dreamy cave]

WE ARE GOING INTO THE NEXT MAP

[clear crane]

Lazy script writing tho

this happened already

[fickle flicker]

reverse sweep

[sour magnet]

Guangzhou > SHD in this meta but SHD just has the clutch factor

[karmic grotto]

[balmy wolf]

when is the script getting changed

Y'all talking about a script ain't funny

[karmic grotto]

why do they keep choosing the same maps again?

[severe tusk]

well, shd aren't playing the meta

[grizzled badger]

imagine going 3-0

on control

[severe tusk]

they gave up playing the meta lol

[next mesa]

Shanghai IS the meta

[keen warren]

@sullen berry

Dis not good

[vagrant jacinth]

Ah man

[grizzled badger]

this is just like when justice and toronto were going for a draw on control

[sullen berry]

Dos mios

[keen warren]

Dios mios

[balmy wolf]

We gonna get Junker

B

[keen warren]

no puedo crear

[tropic herald]

@sullen berry how does it feel to be Seoul of the month

[balmy wolf]

Blizzardworld?

[vagrant jacinth]

The STRESS

[weak bolt]

Hybrid first, then Junkertown

[sullen berry]

@tropic herald 4-2

[dreamy cave]

[karmic grotto]

There are many maps

[vagrant jacinth]

Ah yes

MAPSUBTITLE

[sour magnet]

They're going Bliz world coz they want to genji

[karmic grotto]

They should not choose the same maps as last time

[weak bolt]

Map6Subtitle is my favourte game mode

[tropic herald]

MAP6SUBTITLE

[vagrant jacinth]

Best game mode

Almost as good as hanamura escort

[true hound]

what is this game bro

[balmy wolf]

https://i.gyazo.com/945133809b31128ec5e60763a5353706.png

[sour magnet]

And before all the Youtubers start clickbaiting with "UNRELEASED OVERWATCH 2 GAMEMODE LEAKED"

[ebon aurora]

lmao

[true hound]

map6subtitle

[vagrant jacinth]

MAP6SUBTITLE

[feral zodiac]

What if

[tropic herald]

https://twitter.com/legday/status/1279767241161089024?s=21

Harry ‘LEGDAY’ Pollitt (@LEGDAY)

You've heard of "Come on Eileen."

What about Eileen comes on you?

Twitter

[feral zodiac]

Owl are scripting behind the scenes

[vagrant jacinth]

Lmao

[dreamy cave]

its the other half of blizard world. map6subtitle

[austere adder]

Map6subtitle is my favourite game mode

[feral zodiac]

And then it gets 'leaked'

They get publicity

And throw Shanghai under the bus

[tropic herald]

[clear crane]

Dragons def look more comfortable with Lip in

[true hound]

eh

fearless on his monkey kinda clutched it ngl

[fickle flicker]

fearless carrying rn

[true hound]

i think gzc was just outplaying them the first half in general

[clear crane]

dragons dont seem capable of booming

[true hound]

obviously super close but

i dont think anyone was at fault

[tropic herald]

Get fearless off of Orisa and he gets to lean in on the carry

[dreamy cave]

charge must be getting tired

[next mesa]

Lip>diem?

[true hound]

when shanghai is down 3 thats when they step on the pedal

idk

theyre both super good

[dreamy cave]

they need to go nap its past their bed time

[tropic herald]

If you just want hitscan flexibility you have LIP

[next mesa]

I don't think so

[clear crane]

its 3rd...

[vagrant jacinth]

Lmao

[tropic herald]

If you know going into the map you’re locking Widow you have Diem

[clear crane]

wait no its 2nd

im dumb

uh oh

[raw ermine]

oh man

[tropic herald]

Diem is back in

Hmm

[raw ermine]

diem in

[fickle flicker]

youtube chat is so boring with all the "scripted" talk

[tropic herald]

This is interesting

[vagrant jacinth]

Yes diem on

[karmic grotto]

[true hound]

diem in

this is off script

[vagrant jacinth]

Don't turn up diem, go sleep

[tropic herald]

The script

[balmy wolf]

The boring "scripted" talk is in here too

omg just play what is making you win

ggs

[dreamy cave]

guys

[balmy wolf]

no lip no win

[tropic herald]

Although Diem widow to check Happy

Hmmm

[dreamy cave]

diem was still doing fine. map 1 and 2 were close with diem in

[true hound]

diem sym pog

[upper niche]

The way Achilios pronounces Diem is bizarre, it's like two words.

[true hound]

hitscan turned sym

[fickle flicker]

diem sym

[tropic herald]

It definitely wasn’t Diem causing the losses on the first maps

[true hound]

yeah

[severe tusk]

THEY PULLED LIP?

[true hound]

they were super close

[severe tusk]

hmm that’s good for the widow matchup, but worse for team cohesion

[tropic herald]

I lost

[karmic grotto]

what id you say?

[true hound]

OO

[dreamy cave]

if sym ever becomes meta ill buy a extra copy of overwatch

[tropic herald]

OG DS wants your money

[severe tusk]

ooof fleta

[vagrant jacinth]

Fuck

[primal minnow]

Don’t know why everyone is so against Diem playing

[dreamy cave]

ooof

[next mesa]

Diem feeling himself

[severe tusk]

lip seems to play better with the team imo

[next mesa]

Diem is a cracked carpe

[true hound]

lip and diem both great

[weak bolt]

Diem wasn't a huge problem map 1/2 imo. Trying to force the Genji was an issue

[severe tusk]

but diem is incredibly talented on the widow

[next mesa]

Diem is really good

[true hound]

i think it was really just the winston pick

[tropic herald]

I’m not against Diem playing I’m just more confident in the team overall with LIP in

[true hound]

that clutched it out and did really well

[weak bolt]

Fleta on Tracer is so much better than Genji

[dreamy cave]

diem and carpe are best friends

[true hound]

ye but i guess thats just cause when Lip in shanghai initiated reverse sweep

both cracked

[feral zodiac]

Lol

Happy

[dreamy cave]

1 man blade

[tropic herald]

Damb

[severe tusk]

that rotation failed miserably for SHD

[dreamy cave]

i dont think they should make sigmas eat cancel-able. its his only punishable feature

[feral zodiac]

Wdym?

Sigma can only cancel it with rock

[dreamy cave]

i mean as canceling it to use shield

[feral zodiac]

He can't lol

[dreamy cave]

exactly

[next mesa]

Diem gg

[dreamy cave]

they should keep it that way

[feral zodiac]

Diem isn't having a good game

[dreamy cave]

did he just say "in the dick"

[feral zodiac]

Shanghai lose

[tropic herald]

@feral zodiac ?

[severe tusk]

diem found too little, too late

[tropic herald]

You said that right as Diem got a pick

[forest raven]

Never sub out lip

[karmic grotto]

[fickle flicker]

what is this 🙄

[feral zodiac]

Look across the maps

[vagrant jacinth]

No lip no win

[grizzled badger]

diem

[weak bolt]

Diem did good point a, but struggled on B. It is Charge's map pick remember

[grizzled badger]

was a mistake

[upper niche]

Wonder how many people predicted GZC to beat SHD in the final, let alone GZC to beat NYE

[fickle flicker]

i feel bad for diem but he's really not performing today

[balmy wolf]

eileen is so good

[feral zodiac]

Diem hasn't been pulling his weight

[true hound]

hes being farmed by Eileen

[grizzled badger]

Eileen is straight up hard carrying

[vagrant jacinth]

Really hasn't

[true hound]

he keeps getting caught out and cant deal with it

[tropic herald]

Guangzhou beating NY wasn’t that hot imo

[grizzled badger]

Diem does not work in a world where genji is meta

[fickle flicker]

^

[feral zodiac]

They should have kept lip in

[dreamy cave]

all they have to do is defend

[true hound]

or just went off the widow pick

[feral zodiac]

LOL

[true hound]

like obv ez picks

[vagrant jacinth]

Holy shit

[clear crane]

LOL

[severe tusk]

jesus

[tropic herald]

What am I watching

[vagrant jacinth]

Big brain

[true hound]

LOL

[dreamy cave]

THEIR GIVING

[fickle flicker]

that was nasty

[dreamy cave]

OOOH

[raw ermine]

ahahahaha

[dreamy cave]

OH

[feral zodiac]

Fucking rolled

[upper niche]

They didnt get much ult charge for it though

[true hound]

lmfao

that was a dope play

[dreamy cave]

9 HEAD PLAY

[true hound]

2000 iq

[grizzled badger]

2000 IQ play

[upper niche]

See now they're forced to fight on the low ground up close.

[weak bolt]

GZC got smacked, and Eileen still got 40% to blade lol

[severe tusk]

shd accidentially clicked ranked instead of OWL

[true hound]

ye probs cause reflect

[upper niche]

40% to blade on Ashe, yep.

[true hound]

mei abusers

[grizzled badger]

As long as Diem can outpace Eileen, it's fine

But I dont see that happening

[tropic herald]

Realistically blade into Shanghai is hard

Dam

[fickle flicker]

diem wyd

[tropic herald]

The pulls

[clear crane]

oh no...

[balmy wolf]

[true hound]

oh no

[clear crane]

LOLLL

[vagrant jacinth]

Big pin wtf

[dreamy cave]

DIEM BE CAREFUL

[upper niche]

Unlucky.

[tropic herald]

FEARLESS

[dreamy cave]

FUUUUUCK

[fickle flicker]

fearless

[true hound]

LMAO FEARLESS

[raw ermine]

LUL

[ebon aurora]

that charge

[severe tusk]

they hold.

[raw ermine]

LMAOOO

[clear crane]

HUGEEEEEEEEE

[vagrant jacinth]

Shit

[dreamy cave]

should have just played behind shiel____

[next mesa]

Fearless dick

[tropic herald]

[next mesa]

So big

[true hound]

POG

[dreamy cave]

BIG CHARGE

[raw ermine]

FEARLESS CARRY

[upper niche]

I wouldn't mind seeing this go to map 7, but I still reckon GZC will win on map 7.

[vagrant jacinth]

Fearless is ruthless

[clear crane]

Fearless so alpha

holy shit

[true hound]

ikr

[upper niche]

ouch.

[raw ermine]

oh man

[weak bolt]

They can probably close hold the arch maybe

[feral zodiac]

Shanghai lose

[severe tusk]

the aggression

[weak bolt]

with Mei/Rein you could hold that well

[dreamy cave]

y am i getting so much lagg

[upper niche]

Neptuno still isn't back in, is he?

[vagrant jacinth]

Meaty shatter

[true hound]

the w

[tropic herald]

AHHHHHH

[clear crane]

these rotations

holy shit

[severe tusk]

they literally don’t care

[true hound]

what did i just witness

that was dirty

[raw ermine]

Fearless again

[vagrant jacinth]

Someone stop fearless goddamn

[tropic herald]

This is why I miss Lucio

[raw ermine]

poppin off

[sour magnet]

LOOOOOOL

[dreamy cave]

BCK AT THE SAWN CAMP

[weak bolt]

nep and nero are both back @upper niche

[true hound]

shanghai going all in because they know if they play passive they might get run over

this is pog af

[upper niche]

lol, going for the dirty backcap?

[tropic herald]

Shu

[raw ermine]

SHU

[karmic grotto]

[true hound]

ooh

[forest raven]

Blizzard and bongo

gg

[vagrant jacinth]

Fearless shatter coming

[sour magnet]

2 fights left

[dreamy cave]

D.VA

[raw ermine]

void eats both ults

calling it

[sour magnet]

pretty fair ults

[raw ermine]

bliz and dragon

[weak bolt]

Needs a huge shatter

[clear crane]

last fight time

[tropic herald]

Bongo?

[sour magnet]

1 fight + overtime contest

[true hound]

oo

[upper niche]

oh look, Diem is dead first again.

[dreamy cave]

THIS MEI UT THO

OMG

[forest raven]

gg

[clear crane]

GG

[tropic herald]

Gg

[vagrant jacinth]

YES

[true hound]

GG

[balmy wolf]

LETS GO

[sleek tapir]

GG

[raw ermine]

GG

[sour magnet]

gg

[vagrant jacinth]

[severe tusk]

GG

[balmy wolf]

[ebon aurora]

what a great series

[barren quest]

Gg

[balmy wolf]

[severe tusk]

what a hell of a match

[forest raven]

[karmic grotto]

[vagrant jacinth]

[raw ermine]

Wow

[ebon aurora]

Charge are a legit team

[minor flame]

Pogchamp

[true hound]

no dragons facecam

oof

[sour magnet]

good series

[dreamy cave]

[balmy wolf]

CHARGE

[minor flame]

Dark Horse Charge is real

[balmy wolf]

WHAT A FINALE

[raw ermine]

Reversed sweep denied

[weak bolt]

Somewhere Sideshow is going crazy on his GZC stonks

[dreamy cave]

[upper niche]

Sorry about your bracket predictor points, uhh... everyone.

[young gorge]

god DAMN that was amazing to watch

[fickle flicker]

GGs

[balmy wolf]

gg

[forest raven]

Never sub out lip

[barren quest]

[severe tusk]

that last defence was incredible

[raw ermine]

Nero is there?

oh damn

[severe tusk]

and they almost had it

[raw ermine]

GG

[sullen berry]

@forest raven smh nothing to do with diem here

[vagrant jacinth]

NO LIP NO WIN

[weak bolt]

Nero and Neptuno are both back yeah

[sullen berry]

taking the L is hard

I've been there

[weak bolt]

They did their 14 days of isolation already

[sullen berry]

this isn't new

[severe tusk]

facecam difference

[balmy wolf]

last map eerily similar to last map of season 2 stage 2 finals

[vagrant jacinth]

Fr tho that was a good match holy shit

[dreamy cave]

man

[fickle flicker]

i wish shanghai had won, but that was such a great match to watch

[sour magnet]

This was a very good finals

[grizzled badger]

fearless was nutty

Fearless is such a good maintank oh my god

[keen warren]

[sour magnet]

Fearless probably top 5 main tanks?

[balmy wolf]

Eileen or Happy MVP?

[dreamy cave]

i feel bad for charge when the meta swaps tho. this is the highest high u might get for a while

[fickle flicker]

fearless did great today

[grizzled badger]

And the 10000IQ play to start that attack though

[severe tusk]

best winston, top 3 rein i’d say

[balmy wolf]

Shoul've kept lip

[tropic herald]

Eileen

[sour magnet]

Orisa is kinda dull, i dont think orisa has a top 5 xd

[raw ermine]

Crong robbed

[weak bolt]

I think this is just a bad meta for SHD. Brig changes will likely do them good

[sour magnet]

^^

[balmy wolf]

well this is potm

[forest raven]

Shanghai will win the next tournament

Trust

[balmy wolf]

cr0ng probs get mvp

[grizzled badger]

Eileen has just been crushing it

[severe tusk]

SHD are still overall best team APAC (if not in the whole league) IMO

[vagrant jacinth]

Fearless rein was sick

[dreamy cave]

yo its 10am and the na matches are going to be soo soon i cant sleep enough

[vagrant jacinth]

Diem overshadowed

[severe tusk]

but eileen absolutely killed it

[fickle flicker]

how long until the NA matches?#

[vagrant jacinth]

Eileen was insane

[barren quest]

Shu probably would be a close contender for potm

[tropic herald]

I think matches start at 3pm EST

[vagrant jacinth]

5ish hours?

[severe tusk]

shu popped off so much at the end

[dreamy cave]

thats not enough sleep

[severe tusk]

i won’t be awake to watch :(

[tropic herald]

Wait I read the script wrong

Only seed 2 teams win APAC

[upper niche]

Quick everyone, to Reddit and quote what Achilios just said 😄

[balmy wolf]

Empathy seething

[upper niche]

"Shanghai would've won is they didn't put Diem back in"--Achilios 😄

[severe tusk]

you reckon this was better than seoul vs shd?

[grizzled badger]

They were both insane matches

[upper niche]

nah, SHD looked trash this time around.

[grizzled badger]

Seoul just was crushing expectations

And Shanghai had to pull the impossible reverse sweep

[true hound]

shd was good tf

[grizzled badger]

And for this, with it being a Genji meta, seeing Eileen just dominate

[true hound]

yh eileen was just better than fleta at the gengi

[sullen berry]

PRAISE EILEEN

alright I'm off to bed

[grizzled badger]

PRAISE EILEEN!

[upper niche]

Everyone ready for a Paris v Toronto final ? 😄

[weak bolt]

SHD took too long to realise that Genji wasn't going to work for them honestly. If they'd adapted quicker they'd have stood a chance

[vagrant jacinth]

Paris and Toronto upsets lets gooo

[sullen berry]

it took 21 months

[upper niche]

That would be fricking hilarious 😄

[tropic herald]

If Toronto beat Philly I will

[sullen berry]

their first championship

[tropic herald]

I will

[sour magnet]

i'd laugh so hard if toronto makes it to finals

[tropic herald]

I don’t kno

[sullen berry]

and +3 Vs

[true hound]

i think SHD shoulda swapped Diem off of Widow and onto Ashe

he got hard farmed by eileen

[sullen berry]

definitely in the running for top 6 now

[tropic herald]

But I’d lose my shit if Philly drops their spaghetti

[sour magnet]

I havent seen any of the toronto matches can anyone explain how they're doing so good

[true hound]

couldnt even get the quick picks bcuz eileen would nuke him

agilities genji

and mr logix

thank you mr. logix

[sour magnet]

ah

How strong are they?

i remember waking up and checking standings and seeing toronto winning and being so confused

[tropic herald]

Yeah but Houston would beat Toronto wouldn’t they

[true hound]

yes

[sullen berry]

https://twitter.com/GZCharge/status/1279779631852253184?s=20

GuangzhouCharge (@GZCharge)

We are GuangzhouCharge, and we are the Champion!

#ChargeForward https://t.co/eDseagr6wQ

▶ Play video

Twitter

[sour magnet]

i thought glads and valiant would hold them back

[vagrant jacinth]

I think they should've left lip on, they looked a million times better

[true hound]

my b dinkzr too stronk

dinkzr wasnt on his game yday tho

sad

[weak bolt]

Linkzr is too inconsistent for Houston to win anything big

[true hound]

seems like he gets mad boomed

easily

[tropic herald]

Look what Linkzr taught me

[true hound]

like when hes on game hes pretty wow

[tropic herald]

🚬

[feral zodiac]

If diem continues like this

Get a better widowmaker

[vagrant jacinth]

Oof

[feral zodiac]

He wasn't up to par at all

[next mesa]

Diet is a great widow

[true hound]

diem good widow

just got farmed by eileen

shoulda switched cuz he got solo dived 24/7

[next mesa]

But on second point with charge controlling high ground

• double shield

He basically couldn’t do anything

And he’s inflexible

[feral zodiac]

Then why play him???

[true hound]

yes

[tropic herald]

So there’s this person called Happy

He might’ve been playing

And uhh

He has a good widow

It’s sort of oof

Good

And Blizzard world B has some pretty decent sights for a widow

So not playing widow on B into a widow is probably bad

[tulip shore]

I dislike that one massive buff came in to one character and basically shifted the entire outcome of the tournament, but that's the game I guess

In a normal sport though this sort of thing would never happen

Massive change to the game in the middle of a tournament...

[true hound]

pog

[worn falcon]

Nice finals

[sullen berry]

Surprised me especially

[tropic herald]

I’m going to mald if Shock doesn’t win NA

[karmic grotto]

Fusion is stepping up with Carpe on Widow BUT

I can't count Eternal out

[raw ermine]

I am just happy toronto won 2 games in a row

[karmic grotto]

Eternal looking fire

[worn falcon]

The Lord and mighty shd finally went down

[viral veldt]

I wonder if chipsa is going to play but we all know he won't be

[balmy wolf]

i hope sfs goes down to

[worn falcon]

Charge was strong today

[balmy wolf]

so super won't be able to say he won that championship

[tropic herald]

Toronto on a winstreak

[sullen berry]

made stronger by a solid 3-0 vs NYXL

haksal would show no mercy either with his dragonblades

and jjonak really dropping when stuck on bap

[tropic herald]

Ngl Shu Bap is nutty

I looked away from the screen for 5s and he had 3 kills

[next mesa]

Diem is not to blame for this loss at all

[tropic herald]

Nah, Shanghai as a whole got outplayed

Not to mention this meta just favors Guangzhou more

[next mesa]

They shouldn't have forced genji

I think diem outperformed happy consistently

[tropic herald]

Yeah, I think if the map didn’t need to run a Genji then don’t force it

Also Shanghai and picking maps that forced Genji

[karmic grotto]

I think diem outperformed happy consistently

HOW ?

[next mesa]

Idk what happened to fletas Genji man

[tropic herald]

At least from the maps I watched with happy in he was getting shut down by Diem

[next mesa]

There were very few pickoffs by both widows

But most of them are from diem

[worn falcon]

The strongest points in charge were the tanks and support

In SHD were DPS and tanks

[next mesa]

Izayaki much better on ana

Also I just don't see double shield wise how charge can beat shock

But then again we'll see

[tropic herald]

Rio and Chara have really stepped it up this year

[feral zodiac]

Entirety of charge have stepped up

It's been amazing watching them

[pearl herald]

Im VERY new to Overwatch league. Is there more happening than teams waiting for a Genji ult? That seems to be all I'm seeing on the matches I'm watcing. I'm not noticing the nuance of the matches, I guess.

[next mesa]

why is eileen genji so good

[dim aspen]

ikr its shocking

outplayed haksal

i thgt that haksal was the key to nyxl's victory but charge shocked us all

[next mesa]

I didnt watch that match

[feral zodiac]

Genji ult is a pretty big ult right now

[dim aspen]

yep

[next mesa]

haksal's goat genji status is threatened

[feral zodiac]

But it's mostly flux supercharger blade teams are waiting for

[dim aspen]

timing is crucial

agreed

[feral zodiac]

Although Shanghai are largely using emp grav primal as well

Pulse is another huge ult

[dim aspen]

jesus fearless was clutch af

[feral zodiac]

Yeah

The man is a fucking nutty rein/Winston

[dim aspen]

yep super nutty

that shutdown on eilleen's blade

nutty moment

i think if fleta outplayed eileen on that match shd wouldn't have been dethroned

and reverse sweep

[feral zodiac]

If he outplayed them on any map

That they lost*

[dim aspen]

as an nyxl fan sadly we didnt see them vs shd which was crippling

agreed

easy 3-1 or 3-2 i would say

im happy for the charge

wished apac champ vs na champ ngl

[feral zodiac]

Imagine if paris beat shock though

[tropic herald]

Wait Guangzhou is going to get some serious wins in the standings

[feral zodiac]

How amazing would that be

[tropic herald]

Their next games are all wins on top of the 3 they just got

[dim aspen]

ikr

dethroned that 16 win streak

that would be the most awaited and best result in paris history

[feral zodiac]

Yep

[clear crane]

So do we just put Shock on a tier of its own now

[feral zodiac]

and If shock play the same as they did against washington

Paris legit have a chance

[clear crane]

or is GZ there as well

[balmy wolf]

no

only shock

[tropic herald]

I think it’s too quick to take action to either team

[dim aspen]

gz depends man

[tropic herald]

I think Guangzhou takes 3 easily

[feral zodiac]

If this meta sticks GZ are on track to be the top team

[dim aspen]

if they go on an insane ws then yea

[balmy wolf]

goes
Shock

Charge
Dragons

[tropic herald]

But this meta we see Shanghai crumble in is going away soon

[dim aspen]

agreed

[earnest leaf]

Don't forget when the shock lost to reign in a tourney, only to sweep the rest of the tourney without dropping a map

[feral zodiac]

Reign

[tropic herald]

I think it’s too quick to put Shanghai below Guangzhou

[feral zodiac]

You mean those guys that got farmed by defiant

[earnest leaf]

So don't put it against them that they won't fix some things

[feral zodiac]

[clear crane]

Reign were really good back den

in that stage 4-playoff run

[earnest leaf]

Yea

[dim aspen]

yep with dafran

[earnest leaf]

They were legit a solid team

[clear crane]

lol no dafran

[dim aspen]

oops

[tropic herald]

Old Atlanta

[feral zodiac]

Fallen off a lot since then

Almost as big a fall as the titans

[balmy wolf]

@tropic herald well no its not

Currently the charge are better than dragons

[clear crane]

titans changed rostger

[earnest leaf]

But a team's performance one match won't dictate the rest of their games

[clear crane]

reign kept almost everyone

minus nller

and added edison and fire

their drop off really is a big mystery

[earnest leaf]

I've seen this a bunch in other sports. Top team seemingly having issues vs a worse team

[dim aspen]

welp if nyxl switched haksal and nenne would the outcome between nyxl and gz be different?

[barren quest]

Reign is just bad now

[tropic herald]

I’m just saying we are looking at a short tiny meta and completely dethroning Shanghai of their 1st because they lost one game in one meta they aren’t peak performance

[dim aspen]

yea

[true hound]

reign scuffed

yeah

[feral zodiac]

Almost as a big a fall as peak london to now

[balmy wolf]

Reign isnt bad they are just wildly inconsistent

[feral zodiac]

Actually no

[true hound]

shock struggled against defiant

it was wack

[feral zodiac]

London had a much bigger fall

[tropic herald]

Reign is consistent

They are the gatekeepers

[balmy wolf]

Almost as a big a fall as peak london to now
@feral zodiac u cant compare that tho its 2 completely different rosters

[feral zodiac]

Consistently bad

[earnest leaf]

This 100% is a genji meta, and shock/shd don't have a super good genji player iirc

[feral zodiac]

Yep

[tropic herald]

They roll lower teams and crumble to better teams

[feral zodiac]

True hyperr

[clear crane]

shuda rolled defiant tbh

[dim aspen]

agreed

[barren quest]

Was Valiant just throwing when they went against Defiant

[balmy wolf]

How about we

stop shitting on "bad" teams
and just say the other is playing very well?

[earnest leaf]

Let me say one thing

[tropic herald]

They couldn’t run lastro or dreamer Bc they were boomed

[earnest leaf]

This tourney shows that halt is still a busted ass ability

[next mesa]

tbh fleta genji is solid if yall remember season 1 in dynasty

[earnest leaf]

And needs a nerf

[tropic herald]

This tourney shows that halt is still a busted ass ability
True

[balmy wolf]

like in justice vs shock there were ppl in this chat saying shock was bad for losing a single point

[tropic herald]

That’s YT chat

Lol

[balmy wolf]

no

that was in this chat

[earnest leaf]

Yea and shock still won 3-0 lol

[feral zodiac]

Isn't halt just a better graviton at this point?

[tropic herald]

Shock washed lol

Okay but shock were actually making some pretty bad plays yesterday

The fact that they could’ve drawn or lost a map to justice

[earnest leaf]

Halt is the single most broken part of orisa's kit

[dim aspen]

yea

[balmy wolf]

or maybe

[earnest leaf]

Want her gone? Reduce halt radius

[balmy wolf]

justice were playing well

[earnest leaf]

^

[tropic herald]

Justice playing good doesn’t excuse shock playing bad

[earnest leaf]

Justice were playing pretty well and ttuba has a nasty genji

[clear crane]

justice played with nothing to lose

those are usually the most dangerous teams

[next mesa]

with the dva buffs dive might make a come back but with the brig nerfs they might not

[balmy wolf]

dont shit on shock for a "bad" game when justice played very well

[earnest leaf]

But they still couldn't take a map

[tropic herald]

So you’re shitting on Shanghai for a bad game but I can’t shit on Shock for a bad game

[balmy wolf]

im not shitting on dragons

[earnest leaf]

Shock 100% didn't play their best

[feral zodiac]

Shock definitely had a bad game

You should've seen them on anubis

[next mesa]

you put shock a tier above dragons and charge which we definitely dont know yet

[tropic herald]

@tropic herald well no its not

Currently the charge are better than dragons

[earnest leaf]

But it doesn't mean justice didn't play well

[clear crane]

Shock deserve their own tier

[next mesa]

why

[tropic herald]

This is you immediately putting Shanghai down after one game

[next mesa]

they havent played it

how would you know

[balmy wolf]

@tropic herald yes? currently they are? hence why they won

[feral zodiac]

They're the best in NA

[tropic herald]

Shanghai has one bad game and suddenly they aren’t on top

[balmy wolf]

^^

[clear crane]

We need to move them over to APAC

and just show it

[feral zodiac]

We don't have the information to know if they are the best in the world

[tropic herald]

Yeah when is Shock moving to Asia

[next mesa]

I think if dragons didnt force genji & they played lip on blizzard world things might have been different

[feral zodiac]

Because they haven't played charge or dragons

[true hound]

not even play lip on blizz world

shoulda just swapped off widow

[next mesa]

diem cant play anything but widow pepelaugh

[true hound]

like diem was getting the picks but eileen kept diving him

[next mesa]

he did go ashe

on defense

was good

[tropic herald]

Diem needed to go Ashe faster or get better peek

Peel

[next mesa]

diem was all alone

[candid jolt]

Lip would have done even worse

[dim aspen]

yep i saw he was getting flanked constantly ^

[next mesa]

thats debatable

diem might have better widow but it looks like lip fits better with the team

although I dont see why that matters if you're playing alone

[dim aspen]

agreed

welp if titans were the old team then this year would have gone interesting from the very start

like the shock and titans rivalry agn

[echo quest]

Oh shit charge won?

Wtf

[tropic herald]

It was a good game

Pretty even but when Genji was needed Eileen was definitely superior

[opaque ginkgo]

DRAGONS LOST LMFAO

How tho I must watch this game

[true hound]

it was p close

[vagrant jacinth]

Yeah Eileen outclassed fleta

Very good match though, the reverse sweep was on

[balmy wolf]

the scriptwriters realised another reverse sweep was lazy

[opaque ginkgo]

Lol

[vagrant jacinth]

Had to rewrite

[hot heart]

[worn falcon]

https://twitter.com/swingchip930/status/1279477316478009344?s=19

swingchip #BLM (@swingchip930)

Gargoyle messaged me at 3AM yesterday, saying...

G: Miss Swing, what does (in English) "dont put toes in my mouth ever again" mean?

Me: ?!?!?!? 😳 WHO SAID THAT TO YOU?? WHAT THE HECK IS GOING ON

I proceeded to explain what the sentence means in Korean... (1/2)

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[next mesa]

saw that

[hot heart]

Wait

Charge won?

[next mesa]

yes

[hot heart]

How

[next mesa]

I think paris vs shock will be closer than people think

[uncut badger]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/680928626010750990/729267352448794644/epi_p_ensia.jpg

[next mesa]

eileen genji fucked fleta genji @hot heart

[balmy wolf]

Happy fucked diem too

[next mesa]

what

no

diem fucked happy

[balmy wolf]

Uhm no he didnt LOL

[hot heart]

Eileen is a monster on genji

He did

[next mesa]

that lost on blizzard world was not at all diem's fault

but he will be the scapegoat

[hot heart]

Diem isnt as good as lip on other heroes

[next mesa]

there were very few widow kills actually happening but most of them were from diem

[hot heart]

But his widow beats out most in the league

[tropic herald]

i dont think that diem has a widow 1v1 where it would be a guaranteeed loss

[next mesa]

diem won all stars widow 1v1 pepelaugh

[earnest leaf]

I wanna see him vs ans in a match

👀

[next mesa]

on blizzard world second point charge was huddling around happy while diem was playing solo

[vagrant jacinth]

Lmao no, diem was pretty absent

Happy was dunking

[next mesa]

lmao no

[true hound]

Diem dunking too

Except eileen also dunked on diem

[next mesa]

wait until the replay comes out

oh wait dont need

a better narrative is fleta's genji

[tropic herald]

dont forget that nasty shot on hollywood c

diem dunking on happy

[next mesa]

people blaming diem when fleta already threw 3 maps on genji lol

[vagrant jacinth]

I'm not really blaming necessarily, just saying imo, he didn't perform like his usual self

Fleta I kinda felt had a bigger hand in keeping it so close

[balmy wolf]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/365736706252734476/729384305515823114/Screenshot_20200705-181239_Instagram.jpg

[hot heart]

[next mesa]

How

Fleta genji got alphaed

[clear crane]

So after the summer showdown is the countdown cup?

I’m guessing we will have another 2 week break before the reg season matches

[tropic herald]

is that what they are calling it?

[vagrant jacinth]

Nah man, he was doing pretty well

[tropic herald]

nah

its only one week

they already have the games on the site

[clear crane]

Well 1 week break but 2 weeks time

[vagrant jacinth]

Yeah, sched is on site

Or app

[clear crane]

https://twitter.com/shanghaidragons/status/1279789260904828937?s=21

Shanghai Dragons (@ShanghaiDragons)

The Charge dethroned us today in the Summer Showdown grand finals.
(｡•́︿•̀｡) Thank you for all the love, and we’ll see you again in the Countdown Cup! Our journey to improve never stops, and we’re glad to have you walking with us (´｡• ᵕ •｡`) ♡
#ShanghaiDragons #OWL2020

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Most teams seem to be referring to it as the countdown cup

[tropic herald]

shanghai leaked

they havent mentioned the cup at all

[clear crane]

https://twitter.com/flmayhem/status/1279176729802575872?s=21

Florida Mayhem (@FLMayhem)

GGs, @Outlaws! You've definitely leveled up. See you in the Countdown Cup, perhaps? https://t.co/mXavkLzf2I

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[tropic herald]

hmm

well i guess the social media have been saying it

[clear crane]

https://overwatchleague.com/en-us/news/23469098

Ah so it is official

Oh yay 2 matches every Friday starting at 3. Good way to ease off the work week

[vagrant jacinth]

Sweet

[clear crane]

Looking at that schedule alone, besides Paris and SF, Houston had a really good chance to go 3-0

[next mesa]

Do you guys think dva will come back with the buffs

[clear crane]

Dallas, Wash, and LAV for them

I don’t think anything is replacing double shield

[tropic herald]

im inclined to believe certain teams will run dive comps

as dva certainly got a good buff

[clear crane]

Dallas prob will then

Note’s Dva is prob his best hero

[tropic herald]

i also wont be surprised if brig is still relvant

[next mesa]

Same

[tropic herald]

i guess what comps get ran depends on what the teams want to run or feel most comfortable on

[next mesa]

But less with dive

Maybe ana Zen with dive now?

But that would be very vulnerable

[tropic herald]

the tanks that certainly arent playble is hog and ball but the others might jsut have playtime

[next mesa]

Yeah like dragons will def stick with dive

Fearless monkey is best while his orisa is like average

Compared to his rein and winston

[tropic herald]

i think the issue is that his rein and winston are so good but you compare his good orisa to that it it jsut feels undewhelming

ableit theres no where on orisa that will ever be flashy to the naked eye

[next mesa]

That's true

That said if people want double shield to be gone they should nerf halt

[worn falcon]

That comp on Gibraltar made me confused a bit

The Seoul v Shanghai

[tropic herald]

what was the ocmp

comp

[next mesa]

I wasn't awake

[worn falcon]

Winston, Zarya, Sombra, Echo, Brig, Ana

[next mesa]

It was 4am pepelaugh

[tropic herald]

@next mesa true, halt is still super storng

[next mesa]

Seoul ran that?

[clear crane]

Ah they used that against charge as well

[tropic herald]

i dont see anything wrong with that comp

[next mesa]

@worn falcon

[worn falcon]

And Shanghai

Yes

[next mesa]

Seoul and Shanghai?

[tropic herald]

winston zarya sombra echo ana brig

whats wrong with that

[next mesa]

Last week seoul tried to run Winston zarya

[worn falcon]

Yes, on Gibraltar

[next mesa]

It went fucking absolutely horribly

And refused to switch

[tropic herald]

im confused why winston zarya isnt seen as a viable tank comp

[worn falcon]

I'm not saying it's wrong, just like hard for the Zarya to keep an eye on Winston jumping all over the place to cover his ass

[next mesa]

Zarya Bubble isn't enough

For a dive

[tropic herald]

yeah it is

[next mesa]

And zarya is more short range

It's not it gets shredded

Compared to a defense matrix

Which negates much more damage

[tropic herald]

its a perfectly fine thing for a dive

plus it also means you have a beam on the field which makes a sigma not have a good time

which is generally the dive target anyways

[worn falcon]

Plus Gibraltar is a map where heros who can reach high ground are strong, Zarya is very weak in that map

[tropic herald]

except on first point

shes fine

which is where she is ran

[next mesa]

Right after may melee Seoul played against nyxl, ran Winston zarya and got demolished

[worn falcon]

First point she gets shredded

Second too

[next mesa]

First point high ground is super important

[worn falcon]

Third point is fine

[tropic herald]

its not perfect for all points but it happens to be good for first on gibraltar

[worn falcon]

Also that map was 3-4

With that comp

[tropic herald]

are we talkign about shanghai seoul right?

[next mesa]

Like I said zarya Bubble isn't enough

[worn falcon]

Yes

[next mesa]

After it bursts Winston just dies

Zarya cant help

[worn falcon]

Pretty much

And Zarya is slow to keep the pace of Winston

[next mesa]

While with dva you can matrix every couple of seconds

Yes

[worn falcon]

Again, isn't bad per se in OWL, but it's hard

Winston get help from Echo and Sombra (a few times)

Ana, Brig can throw heals at safe distance

And Zarya can keep players in payload on check

[next mesa]

Yes, but I think in a dive situation ideally you would want the tanks together

[tropic herald]

the other comp shanghai ran on gibraltar doe

[vagrant jacinth]

The soldier mccree?

[true hound]

that was scuffed

[vagrant jacinth]

I wanna live in a world where that's a viable comp

[hot heart]

I wanna live in a world that 2020 didnt go so badly

[vagrant jacinth]

2020 sucks dude

Lockdown doing wonders for me tho

[next mesa]

Overwatch time

[clear crane]

can only hope 2021 is better

but who knows

I do believe we can have a vaccine before EOY, if there's no setbacks

[vagrant jacinth]

you think so?

i think it could take longer

[hot heart]

I dont think so

Maybe start of next year

That it'll be available worldwide

Or mid next year

[next mesa]

Start of next year is the most ideal case

[hot heart]

Ideal

Not likely tho

[clear crane]

I think its possible EOY, but ideal is yea early 2021

who knows

Lotta crazy shit rn haha

[hot heart]

Stay safe yall

[clear crane]

We're living through history rn

[hot heart]

Or i wont be able to trash your power rankings next season

[tropic herald]

arent we always living through hsitroy

[hot heart]

Yes

Bet

*but

This year

Is historic i think

[clear crane]

this year is more likely to be in the textbooks our kids or next gen will be reading

[next mesa]

Bruh kids in 75 years trying to pass the 2020 quiz

[clear crane]

Hell even Kanye announced today hes running for pres again

[next mesa]

FUCK

[hot heart]

imagine seeing your kid read a book about the time you couldn't leave your house for a year and telling them about it

What

Kanye

Alrighty then

For people here that live in America

How is it there

I know its really bad right now

But how is it living your life there

Is this quarantine

*in

[tropic herald]

its terrible

cant vote in this election so im just sitting here like

[next mesa]

You can't?

Why

Are all of the polling stations closed

[tropic herald]

not 18

[vagrant jacinth]

kanye 2020, probably shouldn't laugh or it'll happen

[clear crane]

damn not 18? i feel old

[vagrant jacinth]

lmao same

[clear crane]

wait wtf?

stream starts at 3:30 now? not 2:30?

[tropic herald]

ope

i was expecting it to start now

[sly fog]

Baited! I was so ready

[clear crane]

schedule still says paris/SF live in 33 mins

but the stream says live in 60 mins

nani??

Shock having another issue?

[tropic herald]

https://twitter.com/overwatchleague/status/1279845068417798144?s=20

Overwatch League (@overwatchleague)

Due to technical issues, we are adjusting the schedule of today's broadcast. Watchpoint will now start at 12:30 pm PT, followed by Toronto and Philadelphia at 1 pm PT. SF and Paris will play following that match at approximately 3 pm PT. Thank you for your understanding!

Twitter

[clear crane]

WHAT

[sly fog]

nooooooooo

[raw ermine]

jinx again

[clear crane]

This might be huge

SF most likely will have no rest time

[karmic grotto]

huh?

where the fuck is my shock vs eternal match

technical issues?

[clear crane]

rip

cya in an hour i guess

[karmic grotto]

shock so scared they need 1 hour more prep time

[tropic herald]

the stream is started

[clear crane]

damn this means for Fielder its gonna be around 6 am

[tropic herald]

tokens poggers

[clear crane]

yea at least give us the tokens lol

[tropic herald]

#WakeUpSuper

[next mesa]

Lol

I'm outside rn rippp

I'll catch the finals doe

But let's be honest this is probably the finals

[clear crane]

so finals might not even start till 10pm EST

[worn falcon]

rewriting the script

so paris can beat sfs

[clear crane]

wait not 10pm 8pm

[viral veldt]

Got time to watch the new sidemen video now

😉

[hot heart]

Bruh

Shock with no sleep

Paris still not gonna win

Xzi is a freak beast

Not better than ans tho

[worn falcon]

the motherfucking playing at 3 am lol

[hot heart]

Its 10 30 pm for me imma be up that time

[clear crane]

glad i took off work tmr

[hot heart]

Alright

Predictions

3-1 shock vs paris

[earnest leaf]

3-0 shock, 3-1 philly

[next mesa]

Wdym shock no sleep

[clear crane]

3-0 Shock, 3-1 Philly, 4-1 Shock

[next mesa]

Really 3-0 shock

[worn falcon]

yeh

[clear crane]

I really dont think it matters whether its Ttuba Genji or Sparkle Genji

[tropic herald]

3-2 Paris 3-2 Toronto

[worn falcon]

Paris is pretty inconsistent.

[tropic herald]

i dont care

[clear crane]

Shock def learned from yesterday and adjusted

[next mesa]

3-1 shock 3-2 philly

[clear crane]

and im a crazy Paris fan

[tropic herald]

hot take gamer

[next mesa]

Sparkle and xzi are hot

[worn falcon]

lukewarm take more like

[next mesa]

I think they'll stand a chance against striker and ans

[tropic herald]

cuyo did you look at my preds

[next mesa]

But it will be support diff

[clear crane]

They will do better den last time i think

[worn falcon]

3-2 Paris

LOL

[clear crane]

if they dont run NoSmite Winston

for the first 2 maps

[next mesa]

Fielder playing on 200 ping vs twilight and violet nonono

[worn falcon]

Toronto deffo can beat Philly

:P

[hot heart]

Fielder on normal ping

Still no chance

Best support line in the league imo

[next mesa]

Yes

[hot heart]

Tanks will beat benbest and hanbin

So

Only reason theyre in this

Is because theyre dps are so damn good

If shock slip up

Might be a close match

But they dont slip up

Sl

*so

3-1 shock

Ez

[balmy wolf]

https://twitter.com/overwatchleague/status/1279845068417798144?s=20

Overwatch League (@overwatchleague)

Due to technical issues, we are adjusting the schedule of today's broadcast. Watchpoint will now start at 12:30 pm PT, followed by Toronto and Philadelphia at 1 pm PT. SF and Paris will play following that match at approximately 3 pm PT. Thank you for your understanding!

Twitter

[young gorge]

oh yeahh defiant vs eternalll

[hot heart]

Defiant vs eternal

Eternal take it