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tq
Yeah
kruise homeless
no
I love these upsets soooo much !
That's the fourth upset so far?
Fusion and justice win 
this showdown? yeah
i want houston to win
justice will 3 - 1 shock
yup
GG's @TorontoDefiant this is more than likely my last tournament really wanted to win it all :(.
I swear to fucking god if justice wins
fusion v outlaws final match today
????????????????????????????
this whole season only other upset was Boston-Glads
NO
kruse looks like he needs a shower
rip babybay
No babybay
@deep wolf exaggeration
rip BabyBay
10.2k dmg/10
I mean
Good lord
GG's @TorontoDefiant this is more than likely my last tournament really wanted to win it all :(.
Please stay
he's in a hitscan heavy roster iirc
Monka
knowing babybay hes probably baiting
def baiting
and now projectile heroes are relevant again
bruh moment
this melee tournament is just what i needed in a world of sweaty top team fans
so
he better fucking be
They'll likely move Edison to main hitscan I guess
I wouldn't be surprised if he'd be perma-benched
@forest raven whatd you say about shock in scrims again
feels like babybay bait
EDISON BOOSTED LOLOOLOLOL
babybait?
Apparently omega tilted in scrims and losing to some bottom teams @tropic herald
ashe still in play
sentinels who
Oh no no no no
jk
Thank you Mr. Logix
i think it wud be bait
it was a close match. agilities blades were getting shut down left n right but it dosnt matter when we just waste ours
MR. LOGIX
Ashe gets nerfed in next week or 2 for OWL too remember, she may drop out of meta
Washington Toronto Finals

yes
the ashe nerf is irrelevant
what ash nurfs??
Wait what did shock do in scrims?
@dreamy cave dynamite cd got increased
Dynamite going from 10s to 12s cooldown
yeah but even still Dynamite radius remains the same
its not gonna make ashe weak
thats not thaaaat bad
2 in a row, alright then
that dynamite nerf doesnt feel like that much of a nerf
at best it will make widow be run over ashe more
Got value, but may lower her out of the meta vs say Widow or Mcree
i would consider 76 a better spam now than the ash
nah
that rocket cool down doesnt lie
also i dont think soldier or ashe is spam
bruh
you cant even compare rocket to dynamite
rocket is more of a 1v1 thing
spamedamage is spam damge
or burst
i love logix
Wait obiwan was there a prediction competition
SUPER V NA PROD
also spam doesnt matter much in double shields
imagine a world were defiant vs justice
Wait obiwan was there a prediction competition
@feral zodiac what's your username again?
it is a damaging cooldown the same as dynamite. it serve no other purpose than to do damage
i mean in finals
dynamite does more dmg and farms bob
it's a record of a couple guys that are doing map picks
if Shock loses tonight it will make my day
for the summer showdown, 3 pts for each correct guess
rocket does less damge but comes out more frequently
I really hope justice win this
@true hound i think shock
u have 2 rockets in the time u get 1 dynamite
But I can tell they wont
no the justice vs shock is next
@dreamy cave rocket can be blocked more easily
final match today is outlaws v fusion
i wanna see dinkzr vs carpe
Time to watch Shock get fucked by a musical instrument 
and its dmg is mostly irrelevant
We need those upsets to keep going . No more bullshitt 3-0 matches
karQ must be so happy
spam is spam, blocked or not its still damage
S4 just leaked Babybay retire
cod mobile pog
whether its shield spam or not
I don’t know if he did it on purpose
even if rocket is better than dynamite
Or if it was bait
rest of ashes kit is better
Babybay already tweeted this was his last chance to win a tournament @tropic herald
Babybay to Valorant wouldn't be unexpected
he could be changing games to another esports
probs bait
idk
He never said he was retiring though
But I’m not surprised that he will be retiring
It isn't bait
rip baby bay
Damn expected this win from defiant
legs isnt that good when sig is meta
what?
My bet is he's either going full time streamer, or Valorant
Legs isn't that good
I think this is technically record for most upsets in a tournemnt
What is this call of duty mobile and why does it look so bad game
also ashe and widow can take the same off angles
only 1 higher seed has won
its probably babybay bait but i guess we'll see
It's not bait
how is sigma being meta counter legs as an ability
sig has shield
sig has grasp too
and has the burst to power through biofield
this is so cheesy and crynge jeez
shield is the most important tho
Lmao
cloudy is real tank lamo
it can block off angles
lmao
okay and ash being meta makes it that much more of a difference
ashe does burst dmg
and can throw dynamite over shield
and 76 does spam its 2 different heros
5head gamer god
NA Production vs 5Head Gamer God poggers
SUPER ACTUALLY DIED TO A PRODUCTION COORDINATOR
76 is prob better at spam than ashe
Rolled
NA PRODUCTION
spam is irrelevant with double shield
so bad
Noah A Pradukshen
wow
super is actually bad smh

I do love owl embracing the NA production memes
wow super losing 4-1???????????

whos 5head gamer god
Super
super
oh
Wtf is this whole thing
Noah A Pradushkin 😔
1v1
and who was the other guy
owl producer
Ah
Where you been dude
Real NA Production
oh
bro someone needs to sign up Noah
leader producer i think
i have owl muted
I lo-
10/10 would edit again
#1 vs #13
The boy is cringe
this edit was beautiful
pog
Whoever he is
Les go justice
lets go justice
all like the script

Who here doesn't want justice to win
no way justice win this lmao
The script is broken - TTuba got a 9K
i want the justice v defiant match
a man can hope
but if 76 has more damage output than ash it should be the better pick. but that goes without saying what map or comp ur playing
only the team u think will lose can win in this tournament so justice wins
oh sshid ttuba
I really hope justice win
and ark battle nano mercy got 777 final blows
76 has more dmg potential then ashe
i said it before but . i need me some more upsets
but ashe has burst
ark always smilin
Justice got that American Freedom buff
4th July factor
Apparently Smurf is boomed
rip corey
Sadge
I had Paris, shock, Defiant and fusion win so lets hope it goes this way
Makes me ez money
is there somewhere to put bets on who wins
r0ar and muma greatest mts
I had Paris, shock, Defiant and fusion win so lets hope it goes this way
@muted shale you putting bets for money ?
i kinda want a new primarily melee hero dps
Why is smurf boomed?
Its only like 5 thats it
Fucking hell 33% won after losing the first player
ANS
ans stop plz
That's insane
Defiant gave me really good odds though decent payout if goes right
SHOCK
YEP SHCOCK
YEP ANS
N U T T Y
ILOS DOPE
ilios ay
i guarantee that Washington's first blade gets shut down
oh bro
Stitch lol
Illinois
not Ans again 😅 . he's gonna snipe every member of Justice
Ans is so cool
in america
boston ate ttubas dick that game
I wanna be ans when I grow up
so did glads
this is it gues
striker genji
Stitch vs ans huh
ball zen phara
striker plays genji wha
taxi sym
oh nvm
Fucking hell
ans almost fucking up the tp pog
is twilight a better brig than moth
o
i thought moth was a good brig
Ans fucked it up in the may melee finals too lol
Viol2t what the fuck
filthy
LOL
ope
viol2t s t o p
I didn't even get to see their setup lmao
gg
bro
Jesus christ
choi is instantly on that offangle
Viol2t has more damage than healing
Striker casually one clips stitch
the audio is off
bodied
No it isn't
damn ban
not a chance to touch the point
Who needs a genji
lol
Twilight solo healing on brig, and only 64% to ult. Shows how much damage theyve taken lol
What happened to the rock?
who was the one that said shock was struggling
super permabenched
lmao shock
Nice kills justice
I don't think anyone on shock has died yet
oof
thats so tuff
Viol2t and choi out for blood
did ans even shoot a shot
nah
he didnt even have to do anything
hey first death
viol2t just went to town
window to force them back, back up and los, flux as they come around the corner, box them into mini room and they fall apart
holy shit
0 elims
that was executed so fucking well
How badly boomed would you be as Justice already lol
well gg
jesus fucking christ
0
0
oof

Shock just wants us to go to bed early
ans gonna have a field day
shock rolled fusion




shock is going to fucking destroy justice
Shock are gonna destroy everyone that isn't Shanghai
lmao
0 is the absence of number :0
TWO
sigma behind them like bruh
they got kills Pog
Justice got a kill
JUSTICE GOT TWO KILLS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
This is just bullying honestly
we might actually see a blade this round pog
Lies
3 deaths total
2 kills!!!
aimgod and viol2t ult charges
Wait what
lmao
bro
THIRD KILL
striker killed himself

nvm
LETS GOOO
3 kills
ans didnt even get infra sight lmao
blade fight blade fight
ANS has hit like 1 good shot so far
Ans hasn't had to do anything
Shock winning 5v6 basically
poor ttuba
Holy shit
rip
Justice won a fight
welp
6 KILLS??
oh wow
ok i cant keep up
imagine
wow they won a fight'
the flip!
lmao
justice gotmore kills wooow
Justice won a fight pogu
this is so sad
you can see the potshots he's taking
but at what risk
any one of those is a potential pick right there
wait did justice use 6 ults to win
Literally needed everything to win a fight
Did he get anyone with that blade though?
rip
@twin stag no
Bro
aaaand gg
lol
nope
Toronto won right
he tried to blade a rallying brig
they popped rally as he bladed
@next mesa ye
lmao
Hmm
got booped and bam 0 value
it was a pog match
That's cool
this isnt a game this is a scrim right....
gg
Will Justice get a point this series 
roar looks like hes given up
script writers lul
twilight laughing at his old teammates pain
the only fights justice will win are when they commit flux charger window blade rally
How fucking good are shock
n OmegaLUL

deadass
Its okay they won 1 fight lol
nope
how is the skill difference this high
if you want to see how good shock is
But shock are fucking machines
All this and with Twilight stuck in brig jail still
look at choi
shock being shock
destroyed fusion, played with justice
i mean, having twilight and viol2t is practically op
why isn't there a mercy rule
just look at how he moves
choi getting angles
this is so bad
just run bastion junkrat on a defense. i honestly think they would have better luck
He's a monster
against striker?
choi is fucking wired into the matrix
SF just is better coached I think and Washington are still trying to find the right players in the lineup
I swear they must sit down and analyse every other owl player
And then just read their brain
ikr
i mean, do u have a differnt strat washington should use
shock also isn't comprised of rejects from other teams
Shock has the best coach in the league and top 3 players for every single role
p much
@dreamy cave maybe try cree and genji
theyre all top tier in their roles
idk
and they fit like glue
Who is shock coach?
crusty
@feral zodiac yes I think this means no Genji is ok
Crusty
Architect :peepocry:
O shit
The man that coached Boston to their 10-0 stage in season 1
is brad still coaching shock?
whos brad
selfless coach
So who would you say is second for coaches?
Only thing that'd stop Shock this season is either a) Shanghai, b) dramatic meta changes onto projectile heroes before grand finals
Crusty's been HC since end of season 1
Meanwhile Dallas still with Aero
guy who said he tries to pick up dps players because they can play any role if they need to
huk #1

Shanghai are pretty much the only chance we have of seeing shock get brought to the brink
Aero fucking garbage
@weak bolt philly is the only team that could reasonably stop them at this point
Yes
actually
In NA
outlaws
lmao
unless houston wins lmaoo
outlaws > all
But let's be honest they don't stand a chance
Mayhem almost took it to the shock in the may melee
dude if houston wins
I ended up spamming genji in ranked during APAC games
no
the only team to stop SFS is chengdu
so I have no idea what's u pover there
Dinkzr is on his game
I wonder how charge would do against shock though
have the dragons and shock played yet i honestly dont remember
Wish we could see dragons against SF :(
from what I watched hunters were shit tho
Not played as in different regions of the world
Hunters are terrible
who was that??
"we will try hard"
Chengdu being chengdu
they dont need to try
I still think ans>dinkzr
probably like defiant/reign level
probs
Of course
GG's @TorontoDefiant this is more than likely my last tournament really wanted to win it all :(.
1213
uh
finlands gift to esports
Ans is the best widow in the league
oh no
smh
Chengdu is known for some upsets
what about decay
Zalty 😡
Anyone have that clip of Smurf singing Country Roads
decay pog
but why would they play a spark clip??
babybay is gonna leave
This is one of the most beautiful things we've heard this season 😍🎵🎄
@smurf_ow x @SennheiserGamer https://t.co/UkaMpjvsxu
571
Confirmed
all i could find
who would they play if babybay leaves
poor roar
LOL
roar

you fucking idiot
Damn
how about not stand in front of the widow without a barrier
oh they won a fight
wait what I blinked
r0ar is 900 iq smh
Full hold??
wasnt r0ar actually good on KDP
Its tactical crouching @dreamy cave

ans got fucked by the new timing
I bet ans is still used to the old timing
ans could feed and it literally doesnt matter
BRUH
wooow
fucking ans
HUGE
oh shit

shock never fails to clutch
wtf
poor washington
Viol2t's healing on smurf there
they don't just back off holy shit
viol2t is the best bapt in the world
Goddamn
rocc
The halt into rock to interrupt flux
You his bap is inspiring lol
@forest raven didnt twilight heal smurf
the orange for shock is so bright its impossible to read their time
isnt moth a better brig than twilight?
thats 3 fight wins for justice!!!
new buffs be like
Sandpaper difference
this is a massacre
AN sandpaper
Gonna have to start sanding the mouse
true, but justice are doing considerable better than some teams
ans rookie of the year is an argument
hm
AnsanSandpaper
his aim is so clean wtf
Justice is definitely doing better than most teams in this situation
honestly ye
Genji buffs
Genji/Brig is strong
Justice got a point Pog
justice with fight wins
I was first
other way around for me
ttuba is actually pog
Go Justice!!!!!!!!!!!
Someone just said that shock could play chipsa and still win 3-0😂
Same time?
nice
hyper poped up first for me
lets gooooooooo justice

hyper poped up first for me
😌
can confirm, also hyper
Lets go
I think shock really could lose to paris
Just when you think Washington has an easy cap lol.
they fall behind and eventually crack
if sparkle was playing like he was earlier that's not happening
charge nyxl tomorrow o-o
yo
praying for xl to get stomped
whoru genji sitting for too long
doing good
put whoru on genji plz
justice

put haksal on brig plz
YOOOOOOO
lmao
nice
I mean
justice
ok ttuba
won a fight
If the washington justice cap against shock on kings row of all maps, shock is not at all as dominant as they were a week ago
I love how Choi rocks JJanu every time he grasps
BRUHH
https://twitter.com/LiNkzrOW/status/1279546242729750531?s=19
https://twitter.com/Rawkus/status/1279548599349792768?s=19
i think its over for babybay
@KING_BABYBAY @TorontoDefiant :> u gonna be beast in no matter what u do
278
@KING_BABYBAY @TorontoDefiant love you brotha, whatever you do you're gonna dominate 💚
:((
pls no
WINNABLE
babybay
@vagrant jacinth https://twitter.com/Corey_OW/status/1279556284229058572?s=19 FaZe Babybay
BRUHHHHHH
ggs
lol
FAZE BABYBAY
close though
ye
Tubba had it until he didn't
i mean i wasnt expecting them to take a map
its not a complete massacre
these fucking casters
"the justice looked like they could take a shot at the shock"
no
there was never a chance
they honestly did better than i expected
C'mon Justice you can do this . I believe in ya
Justice aren’t getting stomped at all
im expecting a 3-0 without a doubt but
I'm compelled to see a challenge on map 3
its not full murder
theyre putting up a fight
Justice got stomped first map
Kings is Shock's best map
damb
yea
3-1 perhaps
shock feared that last point
they literally won every fight off building ults and then trying to snowball
now that would be a breakthrough
This being close could be super good for Shock honestly. You know they'll put in a LOT of work to adapt for tomorrow
a 3-1 seems impossible lmao
Super Genji incoming
last point was rough because it's very genji-sided
if they know just how fast ANS could recover

3-1 seems really unlikely
which is why you saw striker off the tracer
@forest token a team fight win is a team fight win
i was expecting full murder but the justice is showing signs of life here
so even with a section of the map that's crazily in their favor
Even if justice got 3rd point they would of had no time
they couldn't crack it
Shock are the kind of team who will look at this match, work out what they can do better, and dominate semis/finals with that knowledge
justice have zero chance at taking a map
yeah the justice was getting out played even with the "advantage"
nah, your backline is gonna be super fragile
also hes not the best on bap
Ana would just get hard farmed by Striker
bro i would not dare play Ana into Striker
wait
I feel like Shock is gonna have a real close game with Paris
@forest raven forget what happened last time vs paris?
yeah ruff match ups for sure
that was Paris being very stupid however
That was before the genji changes
If shock can shut down Sparkle, they'll win easy
they played Genji before buffs into double shield + xzi's first game back
tried to pocket sparkle for value
paris basically threw ngl
Xzi's back into his groove and Genji's a great brawler with armour pack
Paris could take one map off shock at best imo
probs
Requiring sparkle and/or xzi hard carrying
wait whens the brig armour nerfs coming through on owl
it literally depend son sparkle
Also bare in mind any map Paris may take, gives Shock a map pick and can take away Genji maps
Two weeks
i do think they will take a map i dont think it will be a sweep
damn
paris i mean
also whens the asian brackets
So out of OWLs ladder predictor, noone predicted everything correct so far.
@upper niche obviously
just fucking show choi's movement
nobody expected toronto to get this far
legit
thats a great analogy
he's so fucking disciplined
hey unlike Dallas Paris relies on 2 dps
yeah that analogy is way better than where I thought he was going lmao
I was boutta mald my forehead off at him
hahahaha
So what reinforce is saying is that Shock isn't magnus carlsen, Shock is the computer that stomps magnus carlsen

Shock is deep blue
when they play, they know the map and what they all need to fight for
actually now that i think about it i dont think paris is taking a map
that's why I say look at choi
i think it would be a 3 0
because he is instantly where he needs to be every single time
he knows exactly where he needs to be and what he needs to be focusing on because they've prepped it
Honestly, even if Shock does lost this tourney, it'll only motivate them to dominate the rest of the season
That's true
Nah.
what did corey even want to talk to bby about??
You beat Shock and Shock will come back and cut your head off
😉
i wanna see ans vs saya
and we'd imagine Genji becomes less dominant after brig changes
Yeah
Corey giving King babybay a free pass into Faze Clan
im curious about the meta after brig changes
@dreamy cave
https://twitter.com/KING_BABYBAY/status/1279545746237411332?s=19
https://twitter.com/Corey_OW/status/1279556284229058572?s=19
https://twitter.com/king_babybay/status/1279560114865831937?s=21
GG's @TorontoDefiant this is more than likely my last tournament really wanted to win it all :(.
1213
This tourney could be like Stage 3 last year. Great for 1 teams Meta, but not season defining
lmao
what's next map?
Anubis
is valorant even fun
idk
yes
Rascal 
boring af to watch however
valorant is not the play rn ppl should wait to switch
but its all personal opinion
justice need a good A hold
if you're stuck being bad at overwatch, naturally you just move on
Never forget when Shock lost to Atlanta in the playoffs they didn't drop a single map all the way to the grand finals
i love to watch and play valorant
your OW skills are somewhat transferable
idk tac shooters for me are too slow so its only natural i dont really like valorant
so dont take my word for it
Eqo starting
I find comfort in the map design, not as vibrant but less distracting
the only thing that is semitransferable from OW is ability usage
hope they put Choi on Hog
I'd also argue Brig is probably Shocks' weakest support, and if she drops out of meta, it's better for them
hogyobin
@weak bolt they have moth
eqo starting
yeah, I see too many in unranked completely disregard game changing abilities
on the genji i assume
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ayyyyyyyyyyyy
bruhh
Eqo!!! 
damn who would've thought
sdb pepehands
i wanna see ivy play

hed probably hold onto blade for 2 years
Ffs chipSa not starting
but even still
Wait, just realized that all the games for the rest of the season are out
only after all the genji players start leaving do they actually make him good again
lmao yeah
Rest of season = 3 weeks + Countdown Tourney I think, then it's whatever the grand finals are
haksal almost went to valorant as well lmao
@worn falcon I miss him already
I'm not crying in the club, you are
and hes back off the face of the earth
NICE KILL SHADDER
didn't he fuck up his wrist
yep
Yeah
f
nice kill shadder
whos wrist is hurt??
Shadder2k @dreamy cave
sdb's pharah was something else
honestly
one more think on the valorant thing for the person who asked if you like watching the csgo majors then you might like watching valorant because its has alot of the same gameplay just a lot flashier
hes such a good projectile player
Shadders wrist is probably still hurt
with this new genji buffs imagine SDBs shuriken accuracy
It was an extremely bad injury
Rascal 👁️
ye he fucked it up hard
What does sdb do now?
Valorant
p sure hes super fuckin good there
ye he's been playing valorant
im a houston fan and all but i hope they can take a map at least
Damn
posted a couple montages
rascal in for striker
or are those minitages
oo Rascal
sdb good at every game he plays p much
Genji?
clips with music
rascal time
maybe
oh shit they're going to the genji
Rascal ready to slam some desks
strikers a ok genji tho
anubis A
Angry midgit incoming
No angry midgit 
i want to see one game with bastion it would be so great
Rascal genji? or echo?
genji
Mei
or mei
wait shock hasnt played on anubis yet?
stitch on da torb
much more resilient vs. the hitscan
shock's getting their first anubis win Pog
Torb 
https://www.twitch.tv/rascal0723/clip/RealSparklingCarrotTwitchRaid
Don't give Rascal nano
pls bro
LOL
LOL
wow
lol
Actually forced a widow to ashe

omg this is sso dumb
damn what a powerful ability that deflect is
