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Do you ever yeet accretion out the window of Lijiang Tower?
https://clips.twitch.tv/AbstruseTardyEmuYouWHY
Cr0ng certainly did and nailed it blind
The man is insane
Yeah am acc proud to support Gz. I feel like he's at least top 3 Sigs
He got his ult faster than JJonak Coalescence on Watchpoint GIbraltar Im pretty sure
Definitely top 3
I only say at least top 3 because Shock fans are scary
and I don't want a brick through my window
I'd say he's pretty even with choi, I think void is the best of the three though
That's fair enough I suppose. An argument I'd make is about who Void is playing with. Cr0ng has been having these standout performances with Gz who are a good team and do have a great dps lineup but I think anyone could argue Rio isn't asgood as fearless, Chara not like LJG etc even as a Gz fan I have to aceept it
Same with Choi
Yeah that's a lukewarm take
Anyone think Apac might just run some Sombra composition during this? I feel like Apac are always the ones wanting to run sombra and they could definitely just aim to emp nanoblades
I mean Guangzhou?
no i doubt
eileen was a good Genji in Chinese contenders
But his Sombra seems better
It could depend on whether Nero can acc play
they'll run tracer ashe/widow
Ah well that could be tough
Charge are better without nero dont @ me
and the Hunters? they have good Dive and Sombra
Depends on meta
hunters run whatever they want
Double Hitscan with Eileen on Tracer was acc good
they're still bad
But in a Pharah meta? Even Echo? Surely Nero would be better
Hunters will probably run Genji Sombra dive
we havent been able to see eileen echo
hunters run whatever they want
they're still bad
profit hasn't been great this year
True I guess. He';s been fine on Tracer but they shouldn't even try to run Echo
Yeah I thought so too. Schwi and Glister will prolly be Ldn
Oh yeah Jihun 
I guess so.. They'll prolly lose to Seoul if they don't whip out the swedish dwarf
I don't think they can run double hitscan and stay safe
tracer ashe they completely outclass seoul
same with Charge. I think Eileen could torb again
You don't think Seoul can run dive into the Tracer Widow?
i dont see them beating it
london has had really good peel
glister will bully seouls backline
ye maybe
Would you rather have axxiom or muma on your team
yh but axxiom in Korea or something
he probably hasn’t forgot how to not feed
muma tho
remember when roar wasnt a joke?
and was actually the reason the glads weren't considered a low mid tier team
no
Before owl he was good on kongdoo
Last time RoaR wasnt a bottom feeder MT was on KDP
Then he was mediocre in s2 and on justice he was pretty bad
He looked mediocre on gladiators because at least the team around him was good
they said they were going to help him get a visa so he can get picked up by a team
that sounds so impractical
how so?
Reality: we won't let him join another team because we need at least 8 players right now
They have 7
the mínimum was lowered weeks ago.
It's not that they won't let him join another team.
The only reason he can continue the process is because he's on the team.
getting dropped means he has no job, and can't continue the visa application.
and if he gets picked up, he'd have to restart it all over again
Good guy Washington 
seoul will either get swept by london or take dragons to map 5
Honestly I think London will beat Seoul.
damn all the analysts think paris might go to the finals
Do people think that Charge will reach finals of Apac or not so much?
probably if the dynasty flop
Dynasty are exclusively a playoffs team
Yeah
I'm just scared of this meta. Hopefully Eileen can clap on Torb or Sombra or whatever they play
Wonder when Nero and Neptuno will begin to play again
For each role who do you think is the best 3?
Main Tank: Smurf Fearless uhhhhh
Off Tank: Void Choi Gargoyle
Flex: Rascal Fleta Architect
Hitscan: LIP ANS Striker
Flex Support: Izayaki Twilight Viol2t
Main Support: LeeJaeGon Moth uhhhhhhhhh
Yeah
astro?
Maybe
kris
But it’s not like Astro is clearly in the top 3
Basically the whole list for the best 3 for each role is Shanghai, SFS and someone else.
#stomped?
bro u put down best hitscan w/ no Carpe
no carpe
imma give my top 3 per roles now
imagine making a best flex dps role without chipsa or sideshow?
I mean both chipsa and sideshow are undefeated for every map they have played
MT: Guxue Sado Fearless
OT: Void Choi Gargoyle (VERY hotly contested tho, Crong is almost equal to GGL imo)
Hitscan: ANS Decay Lip
Flex: Haksal Fleta Rascal
MS: Moth Funnyastro iDK (LJG dies a bit too much imo)
FS: Izayaki Myungbong Viol2t
Imagine putting idk above ljg
sado and guxue for best mt?
also tho its kinda hard to make this claim when two regions haven't played eachother in months
I really don't rate mano tbh
I think he's fine and good, but not insane
and almost every great team has 2 MTs
I feel like MT is a very hard role to rate
smurf/super (smurf can't play Rein and Super only really plays him)
Fate/Karayan (Same as smurf/super)
Benbest/Nosmite
Super does play a mean ball
meanwhile Guxue and Sado have proven to be consistently flexible and high performance players
But Shock essentially never plays ball comps
looks at Choi I wonder why
pepelaugh
aCtUaLlY sUpEr CaN pLaY sIgMa
I just think Shock can't play dive
wdym
who is their winston and who is their ball
smurf has a great winston
eh
isnt smurf known for his winston and orisa?
didn't Super play Winston whenever they played him?
Shock doesn't need to play dive
I know
They just run anti-dive and stonewall any dive comp in the game
if dive comes up hard like Blizzard is trying to force, I think SFS will struggle the hardest once they HAVE to dive
until then, they are undeniably the best in the league I feel
even if Smurf or Super play monkey alright enough, compare them to Gesture, Fearless, Nosmite, Guxue, even Fatte
fate
I don't see either of them being good enough on the hero
I didn't say he has a worse winston, I just said I don't see him having a great winston jackass
Whoa calm down buddy we're all friends here
What did i just walk into
idk but I got stats wrong bc I am dum
Dw im dum too
so Smurf has played winston to a pretty subpar level this year based on stats, 1.16 K/D
Smurf has actually played less winston than Ameng, Elsa, AND ating
with only 23 minutes
Hm
So safe to say he doesnt play Winston
So
I dont fully agree with MTs
But its fine
Most teams have an orisa-winston MT and a rein MT
which led me to believe smurf player orisa
winston*
the only way I see dragons losing apac is if nyxl somehow runs a really really good comp around haksal's genji
I could see him playing brig and whoru or libero going genji
unless one of them has a better brig
which I doubt
haksal is a really really good brig
but then again haksal > whoru in genji
and please dont run libero on genji when you literally have 2 of the best genjis on your team
maybe libero on brig?
then might as well just put a main support on brig
idk how good libero is on brig
@silk frost that is good list
I just assumed he was good cause he was on nyxl and he's libero
idk about the flex support doe
WhoRU genji Haksal brig
If that doesnt work reverse roles
Haskal genji
Libero brig
I can see haksal on brig but why would you put whoru on brig
ok
can anamo not play brig
Dont think he has a good brig no
and also I would still put twilight in top 3 flex support
Myungbong is a good FS
Dont think he's top 3 tho
Izayaki top 3 makes sense tho
Man's ana is on another level
Dont know tbh
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Just think izayaki is really good
I think izayaki gets overshadowed
by the other players on dragons
he doesn't stand out for me idk
Watch his performances in previous games
I think alarm is someone that has a better bap
And zen
But the ana is somewhere i give it to izayaki
Gives me s1 jjonak vibes
ana?
I see
who the hell is diya
dang he is on 2 way contract with team cc
and they won contenders china
He has been with shd since shd was made
he was the best player in season 1
he even got a player of the match when they went 0-40
he dismissed that rumour in a stream doe
but they're not gonna go far
it's sad
because if they win against paris shock will pick fuel first and crush them before they get on a hot streak
Decay could play on a team like shock and do well
Well he'd seem average compared to the other players on the team
But ye
He'd do well
torb meta incoming
Torb meta would make sense
Whos the best MT right now?
or smurf
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Ngl Fearless is well known for his insane Rein and Orisa but he's never proven himself on Winston. I would love a showcase from him where he wins back a match, possibly in reverse sweep fashion, by going his off-pick Winston

Hes never proven himself on winston?
The reason seoul were able to reverse sweep seoul was bc they subbed in fearless
he played winston for the first 2 of shangai wins
Bro
fearless is a NUTTY winston
Watch the seoul vs shanghai match
thats all you need to see for proof of fearless's prowess on winston
Lmao
Watch dallas actually smash shock in their game
Have you actually watched ldn or houston games
London is a very good team
and houston is improving alot
They looked against Florida, I honestly feel Houston could have won the series if R A W K U S
R A W K U S didn’t int his brains off
Rawk-int **
true
The recency bias is neccessary
rawk-ass
it can go both ways tbh
10.5% chance? I'll take it
choosing between shax and danteh is real hard
they're both nutty as hell
now overwatch league is open or role queue?
2-2-2, no hero bans
no
but now we have open q, owl should too
why
thatd make shit more complicated
we already have hero pools
thatd just add more scrim time and stress for players
idk
Open que for OWL is a bad idea
Like how in the fuck
Would you eve do that
Sometimes open que and sometimes 2-2-2?
Role q is how they gonna balance around the game, open queue is for people who liked the game mode and the dps complaining about long times
Pretty much
is open queue meta just goats rn>?
It’s a lot of multi tank comps
Echo pharah tracer should be nasty
Just do open q with hero bans smh
Echo pharah tracer ball 
Summer showdown starts tomorrow right?
Today
Well
Technically it's already started
Washington vs boston was the first game
You australian?
Ye
Unlucky
Good timezone for APAC games

Nono come back


?
@feral zodiac your joking yeah?
What
haha contenders players go REEEEEEEEEEEEE
life is fun
it was
le sarcasm
@feral zodiac where u joking about the first match already being played?
first match is in 6 hours
wha?
Boston and Washington played the play-in game @viral veldt
Wtf is that😂
To see who is actually in the summer showdown because they were the two lowest seeds
Boston lost, so they're not playing in the showdown
Oh kk thx
HYPE
Nothing's impossible in the Summer Showdown 🔥
Witness history and follow along with an O-W-L-2-0 board while you're at it 📝
Only on https://t.co/tbTGBsbQac 📺
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All of them will happen
They forgot c9
They will get a line in the first match
They could get top left to bottom right easily if bren and sideshow cast the first game
lmao
cloudy's shatters is what I missed with bumper
?
During Fusion vs Spitfire, even tho London won the game, why did Philly win the series?
uh.... i no idea
@balmy wolf when???
2018
they played 6 times
2018
Stage 4 playoffs
spitfire didnt get into stage 4 playoffs
Idk
neither did philly
Huhhhh
Yehh ...
Neither made stage 4 playoffs
@tropic herald can you translate sir
theres an english version in the thread but munchkin is retiring in ow to play in valorant, he says he doesnt regret playing ow either
Its almost time
VLRT? Valorant?
pepehands
Paris vs dallas gonna be an okay game
Or paris completely stomp the fuck out fmof them
Yep
My prediction for paris dallas (if decay plays) 3-1 paris
Houstan mayhem gonna be good
i think mayhem will slap houston
Probably
just pick maps that genji is better than tracer and houston doesnt even have a chance
3-1 paris best case scenario for houstan
Defiant are beyond fucked
If valiant get to play something theyre good at
Not gonna be a competion
Lmao yes, benchgod hooreg
Washington glads, glads wins but im not sure its not gonna be close
Washington might take a map
if this happens
RIP t2 scene
Decay back
oh shi
they really need to stop playing the 'alive' theme during the breaks
Paris 3-0
lijang is map 1 if you dont know
aero prob saved his job with that 3-0 of tor
i'm hyped to see houston lose :)
actually his job prob was never on the line
dallas loves him too much
Valiant should play Genji
KSF is pretty good
hello people
are you all ready to see your favorite teams under achieve and lose a easy game?
hahaha colourhex
imo doha wastes too many blades
I mean I'm happy Genji is op again. but I would really have liked the double hitscan meta to continue just to see decay and onigod play together
genji becoming meta is cool
im guessing in this meta they just play decay doha
#ShocktoAPAC
but then they prob will just steamroll APAC as well
rip :(
RIP Reckful 
rip
f
turn the music back off WeirdChamp

WeirdChamp the widowmaker music is still there
lol chat going xqc
if dallas makes it far in this tournament with decay
i don't see onigod getting alot of playtime
Sp9rk1e isn’t in
WTF
lmaooo they have him trashtalk dallad and don't play him
Guess they wanna run Mei/Echo?
Let's get it
Maybe Tracer Sombra from Paris
yo
whats going on
oh wait
It didnt start yet
ok I really think this match will be closer than a lot of people think
FDGOD over here trying to pretend like he didn't already have that Rubiks Cube set up to solve before hand.

Well yeah I agree. we wont see too much onigod. he will mostly be played during double hitscan metas
no xzi or sparkle?
wtf
absolutely rolled
lol byebye tanks
tanks bad
byebye doha
This game isn't decided by the dps
tank diff
decay??
wasted nano
Nano BEFORE blade up??
ok this is a disaster
i think they expected him to get blade in one dash or something
^
yes nano before blade up what's the problem
Notes ult charge lol
doha?
why
he killed soon before doha dashed onto him so doha didnt get a dash reset
ah
doha either wastes his blade / nano or goes for a 4k without a nano at all
that was a fast blade
yea
hmm sombra this late?
yeah
and as jayne said, blade was baiting beat drop
i dont think soon will get his ult yet
dive is easy to fram emp against tbh
who is everyone rooting for
predictions for this game? i'm legit expecting a 3-2 for dallas
im rooting for fuel here
ok
i like both teams
It's not about getting ult. Dallas had Ball and Doom, two prime hack targets.
i think it will be paris 3-1
Im rooting for paris bc smart
Rooting Paris
but ye idc either tbh
paris 3-1 is what im saying but im willing to see an upset
fuel tanks fucking trash lol
doom genji
btw is fielder still not in americs
yeah
america
might as well play decay genji with onigod
if they pour support into him i can see them taking this
he wont be here
decay onigod is just the best imo
is mei reaper still good?
decay genji??
mei reaper was predicted
decay on genji oni on hitscan
Has anyone actually gotten their OWL tokens in the past couple weekends?
ok
ok
Dallas is playing Genji, Paris isn't. Therefore, I'm rooting for Dallas.
why is decay playing genji
yeh @limpid estuary
just wondering
@limpid estuary Yes, I have.
GAMSU 4K
damn wat a shatter
uhhh
holy shit
LargeHugeGamsu
huge
fatty shatty
damn that bell is so nice to hear
@limpid estuary I have the site open on the match screen and the app open on my phone just to be sure
seeing them put decay on genji gives me hope that dallas could have a close series
^
Ive gotten none from the website, and really dont want to download the app.
is decay better than doha on genji
probably even
taiga try watching on the match screen
right now decay seems better
not the main screen on the website
yea
this dont make sense
according to some people that works better with tokens
i would much rather decay onigod with decay on genji than decay doha
Oooof
OOOF THAT BLADE
dragonblade in 2020
rip Doha
In Schedule?
rekt
can I post links here?
rip doha blade
D OMEGALUL H A
blade without nano in 2020
huge blade
I'll try that and let you know.
that was a decay blade?
@limpid estuary do it on both
not a doha blade
make sure ur volume is above 50% too
whats decay doing
@limpid estuary Try logging in and watching on a different browser. The one I normally was inconsistent. I tried another one and I've had no more problems with tokens.
make sure ur volume is above 50% too
Oh is that why. I always have it muted so I don't listen to commentary.
Decay 
lmfao that shatter
paris 1-0
yikes
hehe paris kind of stomped them
lol yea
DALLAS I PREDICTED YOU WIN 3-2, dont get sweeped 3-0
@limpid estuary Uh, yeah. Only mute the tab, never the YouTube player.
absolutely rolled
That's lame. Thanks.
and for youtube u need over 50% to count as a view for music videos
really?
a way to try to stop ppl to use bots to rack up crazy views on bts videos lol
I never have yt at more than 10% tf
i dont think its consistent
i think fully mute is a clear no
next map?
j
That's on Music Videos
Yeah I've had a lot of owl streams muted on the youtube player and I have never not gotten tokens
whenever sideshow's commentating it counts as music
wheres sparkle????
JEFF
This is why owl needs to go back to twitch
Xzi and Sparkle prob coming in this map
about how many hours of watchtime is it to watch all of them that are on today
YESSS KINGS ROW
they're not running genji
🤖 JEFF🤖 JEFF🤖 JEFF🤖 JEFF🤖 JEFF🤖 JEFF🤖
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I would rather have a mouse with a ibm model m cable than a wireless one that is 4x the weight
HEARTST OMEGALUL NE
lol
logitech has good wireless
C OMEGALUL C A C OMEGALUL LA
why is paris eternal in NA
g502 is garbage tho
yeah logitechs wirless also is 80g not 150
shouldnt they be in eu
why doesn't pepsi sponsor owl :c
and razer viper ultimate
when is all stars?
there is no eu
After the season is over
???
we don't have eu
I think they moved them to NA
oh ok
probably since there are 2 teams
and London to KR
ok
imagine a eu league
wtf no Sparkle again
lol
kk
lol
just every week london vs paris
LOL
why is nyxl in asia. because it doesn't matter what the team is called but where they are located
every scrim is against the other team
king's row widow?
honestly they'd probably be close af
all nyxl players live in asia
imagine they get anubis
so if they are in asia they get better ping and stuff
paris eternals pick paris
lol
they're out of the pool tho
when are paris and hlc coming back
i want to see the rework
aren't all maps rn being picked by the teams
hopefully they come back in summer games
ye
lol
Paris staying deathball
dude my shit do be lagging
its impossible to drop under 300 fps on kingsrow. best optimised and most fun map in the game
Deathballlll
ha they switched I was confused when I saw a sym on paris
lol
Doha PogU
they were doing it for the quick tp
blade already
WOW doha
Halfway to another.
predicted waste 
I love it.
owl is not playing with the brig nerf patch?
it wasnt a waste
not yet
he killed coal and got the rein off of it
LOL DOHA ALMOST GOT TWO BLADES IN ONE FIGHT
How long until Blade gets an increase in charge required
takes 2 weeks for patches to go into owl
oh really
I'm sure doha has some sort of ult accel hack
why
@weak bolt Within a month.
akm is crying rn :(
Paris wins next fight
is akm still on dallas
Although, personally, I say never nerf Genji again.
nerf blade charge and hes fine
akm dying watching doha get his blades
Seems like it
ok note not bad
ikr
he pays some owl producer to give him +10% blade charge when noone is looking
nah
lol remember crunch time
damn
wow
WAIT
dallas actually won that
HUGE
that looked like paris's fight
Blizzard clutch
BenBest died 3 times in one fight
bruh moment
blizzard
hard clutch
what a MASSIVE blizzard
He did the hat trick
yeah I was like
when was crunch time again, titans vs nyxl right?
how is dallas losing this
one of the last pushes
what's this?
the team cops aren't 100% the same?
they only share sigma
that isn't allowed
dafuq wa doha invisible
dallas with 6 ults
6 ults for fuel
this shud be a wrap
no way they lose this
imagine ana not even being meta and being the most recent healer besides brig to get nerfed
got nooo idea wat paris was trying there
i think dallas practiced king's row
LETS GO
well, this is gonna be a good series
just maybe
that was impressive
rolled
doha's genji is actually a nut
I simply have to admire Doha's genji play on the first point
who's the better genji, doha or decay
im a fuel fan tho so i do that already
im predicting a 3-2 but i cant put my finger on who. i hope for dallas but who knows.
outclassed
I think they are both good
doha's mei was also clutch af
Personally, I always thought Doha was the true carry on Dallas.
to save 2nd

doha is insane but decay is next level @outer zenith
nah harryhook is the carry
True.
I mean their dps is true carry
decay was the carry 100%
of course in a genji meta doha will shine a lot more than usual

carryhook
I mean Crimzo is really underrated imo
I'm kidding.
when are the nyxl matches
and Note has actually played well this season on Sigma
tommorow
I need to see Haksal clap everyone’s asses
Obviously it's Decay.
And whoru if he plays
On Brig.
Nyxl too loaded with genji players
wow redshell getting his own ads
but yeah the DPS are by far the best bit of Dallas
yes
Onigod is nutty too
Haksal is back in Brig jail.
what do you need your yaki sinatraa decay etc star players for when you can have a bob
bob always is mvp
Spark gonna knock ny out in the quarters bro @true hound
The only way I see dragons lose apac is if nyxl runs a comp around haksal's genji and it somehow works
@forest raven 🤡 🤡
Whor 
spark not gonna knock ny wym
They absolutely will
they be looking shit after that close match with ny
whoru benched but still a god gengi:((
And nothing else
haksal genji > whoru genji but haksal brig > > idk
shut
maybe whoru genji haksal brig
there are so many star genjis. if there wasn't a single hero limit we would see 3 on each team every map
If you are running genji there's no reason to run libero
over the 2 god genjis that you have on your team
sbb haksal dive is still something i wanna see
this isnt a good meta for libero
Haksal genji = whoru genji tho
i think haksal with saebyeolbe is the best
nah
You're talking like if you don't run genji you insta lose
they just play different
haksal once said
sae can play tracer mccree widow ashe
whoru's genji is only on par with his because whoru had ryujehong supporting him
back in apex
Well, nenne will play over sbb
smh haksal acting like he doesn’t have supports on his team
nenne is more long range hitscan like widow
lmfao
i love both tho
yeah I mean
surprised Paris picked Hanamura
I would kill to see either
since Dallas are known to speedrun this map
they are still the best genji
o wait you can pick maps
yeah loser's pick
yes stupid
now we need shadowburn
why is nyxl doing this to us, they have so many loved star dps players but can't play them all at the same time
🗿
Shadowburn...
sad

shadowvalorant lmao
Nenne's better at everything hitscan besides tracer
tracer is good tho
not crediting the Doha blizzard ;-;
honestly forgot nenne existed
mccree?
yh but why would you run nenne on tracer when you have sbb
when they gonna play Bianca tho
at least
pretty sure sbb is also a better sombra
bianca over hotba maybe
bruh there are like 50 different good tracers











