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earnest leaf
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A bit of them

dreamy cave
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that has to be one of the fastest runs

balmy wolf
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STOP THEY'RE ALREADY DEAD

forest token
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did you see how they were attacking hanamura

earnest leaf
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No

vagrant jacinth
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shock making fusion look like boston ZaryaLUL

karmic grotto
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Honestly I would play Reaper there against Mei

fervent acorn
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Weren't shock twice champions?

clear crane
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Just move SF to APAC plzzzzzz

feral zodiac
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Old vancouver would get fucking rolled by this

vagrant jacinth
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record???

earnest leaf
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Also, shock's halts are actually perfect

viral veldt
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Just me who thinks this match mind of boring?

forest token
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valiant deadass funneled all 6 up the tiny hallway to the highground

clear crane
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Any team would get rolled by this

earnest leaf
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Every halt has a rock with it

forest token
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every. single. fight.

karmic grotto
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@feral zodiac I disagree

earnest leaf
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And followup

dreamy cave
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fusion please. just try anything different

balmy wolf
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philly 2nd best NA team btw

true hound
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many people thought this would be a 3-0 but this

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this is abuse

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nah

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Florida is probably better

vagrant jacinth
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valiant deadass funneled all 6 up the tiny hallway to the highground
@forest token ZaryaLUL

fervent acorn
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Was there a shock vs shanghai?

earnest leaf
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Shock has always been #1 na

clear crane
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Theres shit tier, middle tier, top tier, and Shock tier

earnest leaf
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@fervent acorn no

feral zodiac
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At least win one round come on fusion

forest token
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then shock comes along, perfectly timed 3/3 split to clear flank, then rotate and meet up to fight catwalk

fervent acorn
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oh my

forest token
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what the fuck

balmy wolf
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@fervent acorn no bc they cant do ity

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it

fervent acorn
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:c

feral zodiac
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Shock just don't sleep

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Just game

forest token
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holy shit they're so good

dreamy cave
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THAT TECH

outer zenith
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Just play like the top team.

balmy wolf
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that jump from choi

outer zenith
earnest leaf
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Hot take

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Shock would 3-1 shd

karmic grotto
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If Ivy was there...

vagrant jacinth
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heesu: dw guys, i have a plan
heesu has left the game

clear crane
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I think it would be 3-0

feral zodiac
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I'd predict 3-2

forest token
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I haven't watched shanghai

fervent acorn
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pro overwatch

outer zenith
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It's easy. Just play like Shock. No problem.

karmic grotto
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@earnest leaf I disagree

outer zenith
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Just rotate, and execute plays like Shock does. Easy.

feral zodiac
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Full strength shanghai vs full strength shock would be a fucking treat

forest token
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but these executes are flawless

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like

karmic grotto
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Fusion exposed

forest token
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if they don't kill smurf there choi + rascal box them in, once ans lands the dynamite they fall apart

karmic grotto
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Running double hitscan is an issue

feral zodiac
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Watch fusion still lose this fight

karmic grotto
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I'd you have no mei player

clear crane
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Dismantle Shock

karmic grotto
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Ivy would contest rascal easily

clear crane
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too OP

dreamy cave
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STOP MELTING BOB

balmy wolf
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This is disgusting

forest token
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like

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look at how choi plays

feral zodiac
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Viol2t jesus

clear crane
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oof not a tick

forest token
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they're so fucking prepped

worn falcon
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Nerf shock pls

feral zodiac
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They must have someone studying players like mad

worn falcon
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Give them muma or someone

clear crane
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even with muma they will win out haha

forest token
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bro

clear crane
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Crusty can take Fuel and make them top 3

forest token
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look at where they're holding

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they're ready to immediately retreat back down to spawn

vagrant jacinth
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bob lmao

karmic grotto
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What is the pint of tracer

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In this short space

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I'd rather go Reaper

forest token
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and are spacing the sig spam

feral zodiac
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Hanzo hmm

dreamy cave
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they would have done better running the sombra for ult

silk frost
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me 3 days ago: shock will 3-0
everyone: idiot
everyone now: shock will 3-0

karmic grotto
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Farming bot

tawny sinew
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I'm not surprised this is how this match up is going but God damn. Is shenghai the only team that can (maybe) compete with the shock

worn falcon
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That waste if window

feral zodiac
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Lol carpe

clear crane
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uh i didnt see that fury grav

silk frost
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no one can compete with SFS

clear crane
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what happeened there

karmic grotto
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Apac is getting stronger since teams are adapting to each other

dreamy cave
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mayhem maybe

clear crane
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Shanghai would prob get destroyed

karmic grotto
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Shock didn't play vs Asian based teams yet

silk frost
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they deny anything not in the established meta and Shanghai relies on Winston

feral zodiac
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Wouldn't say destroyed

karmic grotto
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I disagree

tawny sinew
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Yeah apax had been in a vaccum and their games have only been improving over the year. Can't say the same for NA

vagrant jacinth
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i think shock would dismantle dragons ngl

silk frost
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same

karmic grotto
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Shock only plays vs NA

raw ermine
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yikesssssss

silk frost
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Shanghai may grab a map or 2 but

karmic grotto
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Apac is stronger

earnest leaf
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Shock just looks too dominant

vagrant jacinth
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fucking hell shock haha

silk frost
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Shock are even better than 2019

balmy wolf
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this is easy

feral zodiac
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How do you think old Vancouver vs current shock would end up?

vagrant jacinth
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apac is lit

balmy wolf
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@feral zodiac shock 3-0

silk frost
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old vancouver would get rolled

clear crane
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This Shock roster with ANS and Twilight is better than their champion 2019 roster

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It would be a 3-0 lol

tawny sinew
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Shenghai has shown alot of flexibility both in composition and strat. We haven't seen that kind of variety from shock

feral zodiac
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F

clear crane
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4-0 if championship game

forest token
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I think runaway would put up a fight

viral veldt
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Does any1 have a picture of ans hand?

worn falcon
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Apac is overrated, there is no way to compare who are good or not

earnest leaf
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last time old titans faced shock, it was the grand finals

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and they got 4-0ed lol

tawny sinew
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It might be because shock genuinely doesn't ever need to change anything but still we haven't seen as much depth from the shock as we have from shenghai

clear crane
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Runaway got rolled 0-4 in the finals lol

karmic grotto
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Running bastion right

worn falcon
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I feel shd is more fusion level

karmic grotto
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Imagine running bastion

worn falcon
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Shock is another beast

balmy wolf
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@tawny sinew shangai have adapted when theyve been in trouble, nobody has even contested the shock they have nothing to adapt to

forest token
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meta was also shifting under their feet

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ok when it comes to shock

true hound
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bring in chipsa

feral zodiac
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ChipSa would fucking roll

forest token
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just look at the hanamura B attack compared to every other team's

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that's all you really need to see to know why shock is fucking

feral zodiac
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But they're limited to one use for one map per season

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Because he's too op

earnest leaf
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With the way shock plays I could very easily see them beating SHD convincingly

clear crane
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But they should seriously just move Shock to APAC

forest token
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it's so clean

viral veldt
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Chipsa would bring k up the viewers and roll everyone

dreamy cave
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chipsa is probably shitting himself so hard watching this

earnest leaf
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No team besides SHD stands a chance vs shock at this point ngl

clear crane
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Crusty would adapt just as well as Moon does

feral zodiac
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Unless a team kicks into high gear with grinding

worn falcon
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I don't put SHD this high tbh

dreamy cave
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u guys keep ruling out mayhem

karmic grotto
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Gotta bring those Asian teams to na or revsred

clear crane
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They lost to ATL in the playoffs last year and then proceed to go 28-0

karmic grotto
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Mayhem is dark horse

balmy wolf
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just take NA to APAC

worn falcon
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Mayhem is like 3-4 in the list

tawny sinew
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@balmy wolf i know I stated that too but that doesn't mean prove anything about the shocks capability and the fact that they haven't is more suggestive that they likely lack a variety of strats/comps cause they haven't needed to practice or create

feral zodiac
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Watch them lose to fucking Chengdu or something WidowLUL

karmic grotto
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Tracer isn't working for Fusion

vagrant jacinth
tawny sinew
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Mayhem and Vancouver are my dark horses.

Vancouver isnt ganna raise higher than mid tier this season tho

balmy wolf
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@tawny sinew no bc we have seen shockk adapt to different comps , they just dont need to

feral zodiac
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Nothing is working for fusion

karmic grotto
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Blame the dps Lulw

clear crane
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The only hero Shock dont have like a superstar player for is prob Doomfist now

weak bolt
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Perhaps Fusion just aren't that good of a team, and have inflated their record vs easy teams in early season...

balmy wolf
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Mayhem is no longer a dark horse tf u guys saying ?

feral zodiac
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Literally they could run the best possible comp against shock and they would lose

balmy wolf
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@clear crane rascal

feral zodiac
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No fusion are legitimately a top tier team @weak bolt

earnest leaf
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@weak bolt yea pretty much ngl

clear crane
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I never knew he cud lol

feral zodiac
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Thing is theres top tier

karmic grotto
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Their best comp would be also playing Mei instead of double hitscan with tracer

feral zodiac
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And then there is shock tier

earnest leaf
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The hardest teams they have faced have been mayhem and nyxl

clear crane
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Theres top tier and then Shock tier

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and a huge gap in between them

feral zodiac
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Hah I said it first LucioCool

clear crane
tawny sinew
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Mayhem has had a strong appearance in the may Melee and have failed to maintain that level since then. They've proven they have the capability but aren't showing the consistency

weak bolt
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They are top 3 NA, but I do wonder how they'd cope vs Spark/Charge etc

balmy wolf
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@feral zodiac idk if shock are truly top tier tbf ... they kinda only farmed lower tier teams ...

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FUSION

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NOT SHOCK

feral zodiac
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LOL

karmic grotto
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Spitfire won 3-0 against who?

balmy wolf
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spark

karmic grotto
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Spark?

viral veldt
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Some1 just said they would slaughter soe's cat

feral zodiac
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Spark

karmic grotto
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Imagine that

balmy wolf
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and chengdu twice

tawny sinew
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I don't see most NA teams beating charge. Shock is 50/50 for match ups against NA

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Spark* I mean

karmic grotto
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Hunters will beat Shock with the most weird comp

true hound
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Chengdu zone

balmy wolf
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If london were in NA they would be better than philly , dont @ me

tawny sinew
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Lol hunters will shit on anyone but only when running bs

vagrant jacinth
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london are looking a lot better

weak bolt
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I'd like to see Fusion vs Seoul, that match could be epic or a total wipe

clear crane
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I would say most APAC teams can beat all NA teams besides Shock and Fusion

vagrant jacinth
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babel is fucking nutty

karmic grotto
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There are 7 teams

clear crane
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Fusion would fight with GZ and Spark

tawny sinew
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Agreed I really think Philly is overrated cause how mediocre majority of NA is

karmic grotto
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In apac

clear crane
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and nyxl

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they did beat them earlier in the year 3-1 i think

balmy wolf
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nyxl has haksal now

feral zodiac
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Honestly

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Boston will 3-0 shock

clear crane
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i dont think haksal changes too much

tawny sinew
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Yeah and it hasn't changed much for ny

feral zodiac
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Mark my words

worn falcon
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Haksal brig

balmy wolf
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@tawny sinew but they would beat fusion with him

true hound
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Boston pog

karmic grotto
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Inb4 fusión does wild card and brings ChipSa

balmy wolf
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Everyone is saying how carpe is back etc, but they have been farming low tier teams ... not good ones

karmic grotto
true hound
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Haksal has brig

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uhh

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Mei good

tawny sinew
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@balmy wolf idk I think NY is the better team but they consistently fall short

true hound
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Best genji next to whoru ofc

balmy wolf
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He was on lucio for a round iirc

feral zodiac
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I swear we've known about this sigma jump for ages

karmic grotto
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Nyxl on paper should be top team

forest token
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bruh

vagrant jacinth
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shiiit

weak bolt
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NXYL don't look top tier at the moment. I'd say they are 4th or 5th in APAC depending on which Seoul turn up to games

forest token
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look at how choi retreats behind the stairs

serene mica
vagrant jacinth
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choi man

feral zodiac
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It's not that impressive a tech

forest token
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and the instant they wall the orisa he walks up, kills her, then instantly goes to pressure backline

tawny sinew
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Lol nyxl has never looked top tier but has always had top tier talent

balmy wolf
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@weak bolt no. seoul are just bad rn.

tawny sinew
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They were the OG hunters

karmic grotto
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Spitfire core lmao

clear crane
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nyxl was pretty top tier s1

forest token
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@tawny sinew were you around S1

clear crane
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They were the best dive team by a mile

true hound
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Lmao

feral zodiac
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S1 nyxl were beastly

vagrant jacinth
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honestly, anyone could be 2nd in apac. except hunters

true hound
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fat choke

vagrant jacinth
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s1 nyxl were scary strong

forest token
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nah nyxl got fucked by brig

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in playoffs

feral zodiac
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But s1 shock were bottom 4 lol

forest token
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cuz that was a hero :):):)

true hound
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and now

balmy wolf
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APAC rn
Dragons
Charge
NYXL/London
London/NYXL
Spark
Seoul
Chengdu

true hound
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brig 1.0, intelligent hero release

clear crane
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S1 shock was memes

forest token
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:):):):):):)

true hound
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thank you blizzard

forest token
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anyway

true hound
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very smart move

forest token
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until then nyxl were by far the best team in the league

feral zodiac
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Seoul can literally go anywhere from below spark to just below charge

balmy wolf
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no

clear crane
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I still dont know how Shock poached Crusty from Boston

feral zodiac
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But usually they're shit

true hound
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Dallas fuel on paper haha

balmy wolf
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this isnt inconsistency anymore

weak bolt
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Money. Boston love money

balmy wolf
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its just shit

clear crane
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Wonder how much they paid lol

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Boston is filthy rich. they dont make shit from overwatch

karmic grotto
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Imagine if Justice gets those new additions and support

true hound
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ah toilet bowl after this

weak bolt
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Any good part of Boston is buyable at any stage

clear crane
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they own the dynasty teams of the nfl lol

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kraft has to be one of the richest owners in the world

karmic grotto
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Budget roster

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Really

outer zenith
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How do you think they stay filthy rich?

karmic grotto
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Buy low, sell high

true hound
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yea

weak bolt
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Huk (Their GM/President) is known for finding cheap players/staff, and reselling them if they're good

clear crane
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he prob spends it all at massage parlors

true hound
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they picked up Myunbong for little money probs

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which is shitty

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Cause he’s really good

karmic grotto
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Bong to justice

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And Mag?

clear crane
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theres leaks sayhing he will go wash soon

true hound
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All the Boston players aren’t necessarily shit

weak bolt
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They'll sell Myunbong at end of season for large cash

true hound
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and Jerry

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Punk is so good though

viral veldt
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Check shocks twitter

balmy wolf
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I've seen that Mei die so many times

karmic grotto
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Jerry is like, the player like Mickie was for dallas

true hound
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Lulw

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play chipsa

balmy wolf
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mickie was bad tho

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just happy

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very happy

true hound
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mickie was god dva pre owl

vagrant jacinth
clear crane
vagrant jacinth
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play chipsa

balmy wolf
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not on fuel tho

true hound
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then team envy got mad fucked

clear crane
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lol chipsa actualyl replied

true hound
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Dallas fuel just fell

weak bolt
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Mickie was a decent S1 dva, and one of the best S1 Brigs, but then he fell behind quickly

karmic grotto
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Bring ChipSa

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Cowards

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You can't lose harder than this

weak bolt
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Can't play Chipsa, he'd get banned for Widow abuse in chat vs ANS

true hound
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bring chipsa

balmy wolf
true hound
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pepelaugh

balmy wolf
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Oh boy

true hound
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they don’t know

vagrant jacinth
feral zodiac
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Imagine if chipSa actually came in and rolled

karmic grotto
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Oh no

true hound
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Doom meta = chipsa win

feral zodiac
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Would be amazing

clear crane
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oof bye moth

karmic grotto
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Oh no

weak bolt
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I just can't imagine it, as hard as I try

karmic grotto
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Chispa baiting as usual

clear crane
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so Reign is gonna get the 2nd seed

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and Philly third at this rate

karmic grotto
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Keeping the spirits high

true hound
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shock too stacked smh

karmic grotto
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Monies

true hound
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straight up

clear crane
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Dismantle Shock

true hound
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Flex god, insane widow, insane tracer

clear crane
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actually just get rid of Crusty

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den teams might have a chance

balmy wolf
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s1 finals spitfire might have a chance vs shock tbf

vagrant jacinth
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s1 spitfire pepehands

balmy wolf
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s1 finals i said

clear crane
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Finals Spitfire were pretty insane

feral zodiac
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What happened to s1 spitfire

tawny sinew
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@forest token I've been watching since S1 Yes. NYXL had like 1 stage win no?

clear crane
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they all went to 150% mode

balmy wolf
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they didnt care in s2

vagrant jacinth
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it was a beautiful line-up

scarlet oracle
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why not alarm bap astro brig?

forest token
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did you watch anything besides playoffs

feral zodiac
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Was this not washed profit

vagrant jacinth
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profit going mental on volskaya

outer zenith
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Rosinok, I'm not going to lie, you're lost.

clear crane
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this was peaked Profit

balmy wolf
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this was peak profiit

forest token
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like most of the fucking season

balmy wolf
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best player in the world

forest token
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where nyxl roflstomped almost everyone

karmic grotto
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Fucking idiots

raw ermine
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?????

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oh

karmic grotto
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Fusion for real

clear crane
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UH WAT?

feral zodiac
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I never saw season 1 lol

raw ermine
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choi????

clear crane
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oof

scarlet oracle
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what is happening

tawny sinew
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@forest token 1 season. 2 years ago with a different team. The franchise has had some success. That clearly doesn't relate to the current team tho

karmic grotto
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???

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How tf

scarlet oracle
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???????

karmic grotto
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Wasn't the payload rolling

forest token
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I'm not ssing what you said

clear crane
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damn philly held

scarlet oracle
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what just happened

clear crane
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yuge

scarlet oracle
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are there still bans in owl?

clear crane
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nope

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at least not until after summer showdown

scarlet oracle
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good

balmy wolf
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If we had this shock vs finals spitfire
I say 4-3 either way

karmic grotto
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You know what I always think

outer zenith
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@tawny sinew "Lol nyxl has never looked top tier but has always had top tier talent" - That's what you said. And the rest of us in chat merely corrected you by referring to NY's Season 1 performance, where they were the overall most dominant team throughout, up until midway through playoffs. That's all.

karmic grotto
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Letting enemy gaij so much payload

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Only for you to set up

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Only tk be rolled

balmy wolf
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NYXL in playoffs LUL

karmic grotto
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Letting enemy have one team fight to lose a 1.5 or more minute point

vagrant jacinth
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lmao nyxl were monstrous s1

clear crane
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to be fair nyxl won 2 of the 4 season 2 stages

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sbb was a god on tracer

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jjonak just flexed on everyone

karmic grotto
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???

forest token
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what even was s2

karmic grotto
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Heesu shouldn't do that

forest token
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that was goats right?

clear crane
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and u had pine doing spider widow plays for fun

outer zenith
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I mean, Shock also only won 2 of the 4 stage finals, so....

balmy wolf
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to be fair nyxl won 2 of the 4 season 2 stages
@clear crane u mean s1

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not s2

clear crane
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ah oops

tawny sinew
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@outer zenith I only remembered it as a stage win tbh.

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Either way my argument is simply past accomplishments doesn't say anything about the current state of a team

feral zodiac
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S2 was triple tank and dive wasnt it?

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did It have double sniper for a bit?

forest token
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brig released end of s1

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then BEAT s5 happened

clear crane
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S2 was all goats

raw ermine
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S2 was goats for stage 1 and 2

clear crane
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den a bit of sombra goats

tropic herald
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YEP SHOCK

clear crane
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and den 2-2-2

feral zodiac
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Ah

balmy wolf
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S2 was only goats

feral zodiac
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Damn

tropic herald
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SHOCK SWEEP

forest token
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which led into S2

raw ermine
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Stage 3 was goats and triple dps

feral zodiac
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Not as many seasons as I thought there was

raw ermine
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stage 4 was orisa dva/hog

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playoffs was orisa sig

karmic grotto
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Dva

forest token
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orisa/mei

karmic grotto
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Dva hog

forest token
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then sig dropped

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and it was sigrisa

karmic grotto
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DVA HOG

forest token
vagrant jacinth
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PULLED PORK COMP

karmic grotto
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Double shield is zzzz

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Even after nerfs

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It's the meta for most of the time

vagrant jacinth
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AN S

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FUCK

clear crane
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Shock potentially have the best Widow and best Tracer in the game

vagrant jacinth
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i'd say so, they're insane

forest token
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god sig is broken

feral zodiac
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Best sigma as well

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And best orisa

clear crane
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fucking choi

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fuckinggggggggggg Choi

feral zodiac
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And best brig

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And best bap lol

karmic grotto
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Alarm

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Wtf

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Even in owl

cloud latch
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they three of the best baps bruh

karmic grotto
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People dying for no reason

cloud latch
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have*

karmic grotto
#

For no fucking reason

true hound
#

“should we give sigma weaknesses jeff?”

forest token
#

????????????????????????

true hound
#

“No”

clear crane
#

i think best Brig is still Haksal

earnest leaf
#

ans

forest token
#

ANS??????

clear crane
#

uhhh wat?

raw ermine
#

yikers

scarlet oracle
#

???

dreamy cave
#

hes trowing

feral zodiac
#

ChipSa ddossing ans

karmic grotto
#

At this pint

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You can just run dive Sombra

balmy wolf
#

More like trowling

karmic grotto
#

But hey, fusion is a team that only plays meta and never swaps

forest token
#

heesu carry

feral zodiac
#

ALARM

barren quest
#

Fuck Widow

forest token
#

heesu dinks smurf which lets fusion drop and kill him for free

feral zodiac
#

I swear every fight shock has lost striker got picked off at the beginning

outer zenith
#

Riveting Brig gameplay.

forest token
#

if striker doesn't die then he blinks up and contests heesu

dreamy cave
#

"mace to the face"

forest token
#

but ans couldn't get an angle so there wasn't anything to contest him

vagrant jacinth
#

haha mace go swish swish

forest token
#

oh what a halt

scarlet oracle
#

haha rally to me haha swish swish swish

feral zodiac
#

Ooo carpe

dreamy cave
clear crane
#

Winnable!!!!!!!!!!

true hound
#

Carpe is god

balmy wolf
#

Carpe is carrying

karmic grotto
#

Ans lmao

#

Swapping to ashe

forest token
#

sado halts them off highground then they kite the push while carpe tears up the backline

karmic grotto
#

What's the matter ans?

forest token
#

no widow angles on last

#

dynamite pressure gonna be much more valuable

karmic grotto
#

Lulw

dreamy cave
#

it isnt ans turn to carry anymore

outer zenith
#

ANS would have swapped to Ashe on 3rd regardless.

clear crane
#

Choi's been carrying a bit this map

forest token
#

if ans tries to offangle fury is going to shut him down, so the widow won't do much

karmic grotto
#

Gg

dreamy cave
#

ATE

outer zenith
#

It's a Shock game. Everyone is carrying at some point.

dreamy cave
#

oof

tidal plume
#

I have a question about overwatch league tokens, would i put that in here or somewhere else?

forest token
#

what a good kite

feral zodiac
#

Damm

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That was so much damage amplified

outer zenith
#

@tidal plume Ask.

true hound
#

Gg

raw ermine
#

gg

feral zodiac
#

Fusion fucking rolled by shock

dreamy cave
#

gg

tropic herald
#

SHOCK SWEEP

forest token
#

fusion actually played that last point well

balmy wolf
#

called it

clear crane
#

At least that last map was competitive

tropic herald
#

YEP SHOCK

forest token
#

yep shock

worn falcon
#

Ez clap

true hound
#

First 2 maps? Destruction - last one quite close, if Fusion had played like that the first 2 there would have been a chance

worn falcon
#

Yep shock

balmy wolf
#

EZ Clap

sweet shell
#

Yep shock

karmic grotto
#

When heesu went Widow

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It changed

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Widow is a cancer hero

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ChipSa was right

forest token
#

it was a good flux to get that corner and a nice outplay with the halt + supercharger

tidal plume
#

How do you guys get the tokens? Ive watched everyday its avaliable in full screen without ad block, sound on and everything but i have only had one day where i got 30 tokens. Ever since then i havent gotten any. All my friends do the same thing and get theres but i don't. Im signed in and everything

earnest leaf
#

shock showing that no one is better than them still lmao

true hound
#

widow is cancer hero confirmed

next mesa
#

Called it

feral zodiac
#

Shock is playing fucking universe creator when everyone else is playing checkers

balmy wolf
#

who didn’t levy

true hound
#

now we have the toilet bowl

#

@balmy wolf is fusion played like that last map the entire game, it could have been closer

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But shock slammed them the first 2

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hard

vagrant jacinth
#

no super :(

forest token
#

shock have hanamura on lock

next mesa
#

Sus that people think fusions stand a chance jaja

feral zodiac
#

Super rein one trick

true hound
#

Super permabenched until blizz decides to nerf the shit out of Sig

next mesa
#

No one can beat shock in NA

true hound
#

and orisa

balmy wolf
#

yep.

karmic grotto
#

Double shield is zzzzzz

feral zodiac
#

Again

#

Lol

true hound
#

I hate sig

forest token
#

if they didn't have that super shit start they might've actually brought it close

true hound
#

Why does he exist

clear crane
#

No one can beat Shock period lol

true hound
#

remove feet man

feral zodiac
#

Get rid of sigma rock

forest token
#

eh

feral zodiac
#

Ez

balmy wolf
#

get rid of sigma in all

true hound
#

change him so he has actual weaknesses

forest token
#

like

balmy wolf
#

just delete him

vagrant jacinth
#

sigma be like: R O C C

forest token
#

the thing that makes sigma insane is how fucking good he is at controlling off angles

next mesa
#

I’m hoping the dragons roll shock when they finally have cross region matches

clear crane
#

This is the Golden State Warriors of the OWL lol

true hound
#

exactly

#

And he’s a pain in the butt to contest

forest token
#

that's the main thing that's happening this match that wasn't happening literally the entire fucking day

#

they're using the sig to help establish map control

clear crane
#

LOL 56%!

#

Decay SCRUB

feral zodiac
#

Remove eat remove rock remove shield

forest token
#

which is why you rarely see choi playing with the orisa, he's almost always near a flank

vagrant jacinth
#

ANS

feral zodiac
#

And completely change his kit

clear crane
#

atl gonna get rolled by fusion tho

forest token
#

honestly I'm enjoying the meta this match

clear crane
#

and den we gonna see a rematch

outer zenith
#

@tidal plume If you're watching on the site whilst signed in and still aren't getting tokens, the best thing I can suggest is, try another browser. I find that my normal browser has trouble with the token exchange, as a result I only watch OWL on Chrome when farming tokens.

vagrant jacinth
#

reign 2nd ZaryaLUL

forest token
#

now that I'm not malding every 2s

next mesa
#

Wtf

worn falcon
#

Moth

#

Pog

next mesa
#

56%

#

That’s actually aimbot level shit

tidal plume
#

@outer zenith i watch with chrome and dont get any, so i guess ill try like explorer or something. Thanks for the help hopefully it works

outer zenith
#

Here's hoping.

clear crane
#

Shock about to get another Golden Stage

next mesa
#

Shock will def win the tourney

#

NA region so boring

viral veldt
#

Just me who found this match really underwhelming for the hype it had

clear crane
#

just fly shock to korea after the tourney. make them do the 14 day qurantine or watever restrictions korea has, which i think are pretty lax right now cause they have the virus under way better control then the US lol

next mesa
#

They still have

#

But they can just play in their room

#

As long as no interactions between other people

clear crane
#

i read somewhere they are thinking about getting fans back into their baseball games

feral zodiac
#

YES MOTH

vagrant jacinth
#

moth fucking knows

feral zodiac
#

I really want to go back and watch babybay shit on ans now

#

He must've been insane

karmic grotto
#

Babybay thought to himself

#

And now I'm go to fuck

next mesa
#

Babybay shit on ans?

karmic grotto
#

And he did

lean spire
#

Shock is so overkill

#

They sign the best player on every hero

#

It’s literally unfair

clear crane
#

tbf no one they signed was regarded the best on their role at that time, besides maybe Striker

forest token
#

shock is prepped like no other north american team is

#

hence the domination

worn falcon
clear crane
#

and Crusty is 50% of their sucess

worn falcon
#

We blow

karmic grotto
#

Second wind

clear crane
#

oof

#

Support T2

karmic grotto
#

Another one bites the dust

lean spire
#

Signing twilight is overkill

balmy wolf
#

#13PeopleToOWL lmaoo

lean spire
#

Other teams need him

next mesa
#

Striker best tracer ans best widow smurf best Orisa Choi best sigma super best rein violet best bap

clear crane
#

Higan For OW

#

hmm

karmic grotto
#

Shock only want to be the best, by signing the best

#

Doesn't make sense, but if you have money

forest token
#

god now I have to watch this shitfest after that masterclass by shock

vagrant jacinth
#

bruh

forest token
#

fucking hell

vagrant jacinth
#

cloudy best rein obvs, smh

karmic grotto
#

Shit fest? Nothing wrong with it

next mesa
#

@lean spire they dont need him but by signing him you prevent other teams from getting him lolol

lean spire
#

Yeah I wish there was something like a salary cap

karmic grotto
#

There is

lean spire
#

Yeah it’s frustrating

forest token
#

boutta watch 6 players funnel through a tiny-ass hallway again

karmic grotto
#

A cap

forest token
#

poggers

worn falcon
#

Toilet bowl here we go

daring geyser
#

I was about to cry bro

lean spire
#

Cuz twilight just wants a ring

clear crane
#

Then dont watch lol

daring geyser
#

fusion shoulda at least got a point

forest token
#

the thing that gets me

weak bolt
clear crane
#

I think Justice will put up a good fight

forest token
#

is that valiant did the same thing every single fight

daring geyser
#

why the fuck didnt fusion sub

forest token
#

like they didn't even try to do anything different

daring geyser
#

heesu did shit

true hound
#

Should have subbed in chipsa smh

forest token
#

they just walked forward

vagrant jacinth
#

haha

daring geyser
#

ugh fucking hate this corn guy

vagrant jacinth
#

every other team playing like they're in a comp game

clear crane
#

Myungbong getting a look at his soon to be new team

worn falcon
#

Wash needs a hitscan

daring geyser
#

carpe was washed af

worn falcon
#

:(

karmic grotto
#

Stitch lmao

#

XD

worn falcon
#

And a mt

karmic grotto
#

Washed

#

Wasted

daring geyser
#

they should have went eqo ivy, sado poko, funnyastro alarm

#

ez win right there

#

and they just took their worst players onto one of the best teams

karmic grotto
#

Should have had projectile

daring geyser
#

im so disappointed in fusion

karmic grotto
#

Ivy's Mei is top tier

weak bolt
#

What exactly would you play eqo/ivy on to counter ANS/Striker?

daring geyser
#

ans was scary tbh

karmic grotto
#

Maps like hanamura

clear crane
#

no matter wat Fusion ran, the results were inevitable

karmic grotto
#

Pure Mei map

#

Ivy mei is good. Tracer did Jack shit

forest token
#

wait why is this starting on busan and not oasis

daring geyser
#

I dont get it, heesu played like at least 10 matches but chipsa has only played one map

worn falcon
#

Yes

daring geyser
#

its bs

karmic grotto
#

This is play offs?

vagrant jacinth
#

he gets it

clear crane
#

Chipsa is hidden until the rematch

arctic hearth
#

guys

karmic grotto
#

Maybe fusión not running their best team

weak bolt
#

Because Heesu plays useful heroes and Chipsa is a 1 trick perhaps?

clear crane
#

in the summer finals

arctic hearth
#

i play fortnite

daring geyser
#

chipsa would have done more than heesu

worn falcon
#

Ahhh symmetra, the only play time she have is to be a taxi

feral zodiac
#

This game is already feeling like a massive downgrade

daring geyser
#

what did sado even do

#

why are people running metas its so boring

karmic grotto
#

Fusion doesn't switch

#

That's their issue

#

For quite some years

daring geyser
#

fusion has that horrible habit

karmic grotto
#

At least they get paid alot

daring geyser
#

how many subs does each team get a match?

karmic grotto
#

Subs?

#

That's not how it works

#

They scrims hours each day with specific people for specific maps

clear crane
#

So the winner of this match prob plays Valiant

#

unless Valiant chooses Titans

feral zodiac
#

Don't think there is a sub limit

daring geyser
#

so what will fusion go against?

clear crane
#

unknown rn

feral zodiac
#

Someone who will roll them

clear crane
#

they have a bye

karmic grotto
#

RIP

next mesa
#

bruh

#

I have 95 tokens

#

not even close

#

guess I have to wait for this season mvp

#

fuuuuuuuuuu

clear crane
#

oh wait

#

no Titans have the 4th seed

#

they have a bye lol

daring geyser
#

wym

clear crane
#

this is the first game of the summer showdown

#

so the winner of this, plus toronto, dallas, and houston,

daring geyser
#

no first game of summer showdown is boston vs justice

#

which is soon

clear crane
#

yea... this is that game

daring geyser
#

like in a few mins

clear crane
#

its on right now

feral zodiac
#

Boston rolling

clear crane
#

so titans will get to pick a team lol

feral zodiac
#

Watch them pick Shanghai lol

#

Not shanghai

#

Shock

#

Fuck

clear crane
#

nah they cant

feral zodiac
#

Damn

clear crane
#

will be one of the remaining 4 seeds from the knockouts

daring geyser
#

boston is that shit team that you want them to win

forest token
#

shockhai

clear crane
#

which i will guess ends up being paris, lav, fla

daring geyser
#

so who do you think was fusions weak point in the match

feral zodiac
#

How do you think lunatic hai would perform in the current owl

daring geyser
#

I think heesu tbh

clear crane
#

and the 4th one is hard to predict considering how inconsistent LAG are

#

they couldnt even beat Runaway with Runner who just came back from military lol

#

granted it was more of a meme match

forest token
#

wdym LH

#

like if they took old LH and time traveled them to today

feral zodiac
#

Mah

forest token
#

if they got the gang back together

#

what

feral zodiac
#

Nah*

clear crane
#

if ur talking about rn i think they will get stomped by prob every team haha

#

or most

daring geyser
#

so guys whats your dream team

feral zodiac
#

If they brought each of the players at their peak back into LH with their peak synergy

daring geyser
#

you can even pick players who have retired

feral zodiac
#

Basically the best possible LH

clear crane
#

its very hard to say

#

its like asking if prime jordan can beat prime lebron

forest token
#

their peak as in they kept grinding since apex

#

or their peak in apex

feral zodiac
#

Kept grinding

true hound
#

tank: ryujekong

forest token
#

some of them would probably have fallen off tbh

#

e.g. envy

clear crane
#

LH is prob my 2nd fav team of all time

#

after the French iteration of Rogue

daring geyser
#

how dietz nuts taste

sly fog
#

Ttuba looking good? What? Thats not right

forest token
#

it's against boston

vagrant jacinth
#

lmao

sly fog
#

I miss Corey/Stratus

forest token
#

did myunbong

#

just run through their shield

#

and anti

true hound
#

huge

forest token
#

he just sat

#

on the flank

feral zodiac
#

If Corey and stratus were still there they'd be dallas level

forest token
#

and they just walked into him

#

what the fuck is this match

feral zodiac
#

Maybe a bit below

sly fog
#

They’d at least have potential to not be shit

feral zodiac
#

A massive fucking meme

true hound
#

improve your players or go full korean

#

Hmmmm

forest token
#

or

#

go full NA

feral zodiac
#

Be shock

vagrant jacinth
#

soldier yuss

forest token
#

and play against these shithole teams

balmy wolf
#

bruh it dont matter if u go full korean if u have horrible coaching

vagrant jacinth
#

nanovisor?? in my owl?? what the fuck

daring geyser
#

replace someone in fusion with someone else, who would it be

sly fog
worn falcon
#

LEGS

feral zodiac
#

LOL

daring geyser
#

why the fuck does no one pay attention

worn falcon
#

Colorhex

vagrant jacinth
#

lmaooo

sly fog
#

Aww no chex

worn falcon
#

Wtf

sly fog
daring geyser
#

imagine thinking chex is good

forest token
#

god I hate this match

#

ok

#

am I alone in thinking

sly fog
#

Im a justice fan but Jerry is fun to watch

forest token
#

that the mega position boston took on round 2 is complete dogshit

feral zodiac
#

This is like going from france vs croatia to fucking India vs the Bahamas

forest token
#

I feel like you're just asking to get pinched and fucked

daring geyser
#

boston 1-0 pog

vagrant jacinth
#

jerry is fun to watch tbf

worn falcon
#

Jerry needs to be traded tbh

daring geyser
#

no

sly fog
#

Jerry is meme king

daring geyser
#

jerry must stay on boston

worn falcon
#

To a better team

daring geyser
#

chex needs to go to retirement

vagrant jacinth
#

haha yes

raw ermine
#

RIP

sly fog
#

I feel like Boston should try and find players to support Jerry. Theyre never gunna improve if they just trade/let go of talent

daring geyser
#

punk is a great sigma

errant shoal
#

@wise obsidian

sly fog
vagrant jacinth
daring geyser
#

LOL

fierce narwhal
#

ATTENTION SHOCK SWEPT FUSION I REPEAT SHOCK SWEPT FUSION

daring geyser
#

chex died to own bomb smh

fierce narwhal
#

I JUST FOUND OUT

daring geyser
#

no shit

fierce narwhal
#

WOW

daring geyser
#

I was greatly disappointed

sly fog
balmy wolf
#

kind of late

fierce narwhal
#

lol i just found out

vagrant jacinth
#

lmao

daring geyser
#

fusion would have reverse swept if they SUBBED

vagrant jacinth
#

yeah

fierce narwhal
#

i really wanted to see map 4 on kings row its my favorite map 😦

vagrant jacinth
#

it happened

sly fog
#

Thinking fusion wouldve won if they subbed is a low iq idea

daring geyser
#

fusion still has a better match record

#

15-2

#

shock is 14-2

sly fog
#

Shock are just so dominant sometimes even a good team just loses

fierce narwhal
#

yeah]

daring geyser
#

I love how people want yaki rookie of the year because he did good in one match

feral zodiac
#

Ans easily roty

daring geyser
#

I really want to see more chipsa

sly fog
#

Lol Chipsa needs to be run outta the league. One trick doom who jumped off the map

daring geyser
#

sp9rk1e is amazing doe

#

accidents happen mate

sly fog
#

Chipsa has no place in Fusion roster

daring geyser
#

there were like 2 people who died to their own pulse bombs today

feral zodiac
#

That sounds more like you just don't like chipSa

sly fog
#

I respect his talent but i think fusions dps are just stronger i dont see the need to play chipsa

feral zodiac
#

He's the best doom in the squad and was signed at a point when doom was strong

balmy wolf
#

i really doubt chipsa is the best doom in the squad

feral zodiac
#

Right now he's there for the viewership

sly fog
#

Eh. Doesnt mean much when you cant find a place to play him

balmy wolf
#

chipsa was signed for marketing reasons

#

and it worked

sly fog
#

Put him on content creation side instead.

feral zodiac
#

Not hard to believe that he's the best doom in the squad

#

He is legitimately an extremely good player

balmy wolf
#

on doom

#

and only doom

feral zodiac
#

That's

#

The point

sly fog
#

He is a good doom. No debate there. But i dont think he works on a team when doom isnt staple dps hero

daring geyser
#

chipsa is a reliable teammate though

balmy wolf
#

in hindsight doom has been a shit picked since the beginning of the season

daring geyser
#

Look at blase his ass is also a doom one trick and he’s doing decent I guess

feral zodiac
#

Beginning, eh

#

Most of the season yes

balmy wolf
#

if it comes down to a doom meta, expect the top dps to already have a good doom to pull out

feral zodiac
#

When was chipSa signed again?

daring geyser
#

Day after heesu

feral zodiac
#

When was heesu signed

sly fog
#

Outlaws need Blase bc they dont have the depth Fusion does. Heesu, Carpe, and Ivy can have really good depth.

daring geyser
#

Day before Chipsa

feral zodiac
#

Fuck off WidowLUL

karmic grotto
#

Heu

balmy wolf
#

apac region looking spicy in the showdown bracket

sly fog
balmy wolf
#

lol poor hunters

#

their season is basically over

daring geyser
#

Seoul omegalul

feral zodiac
#

I still expect chengdu to 3-0 shock

tropic herald
#

I get sad watching Justice

sly fog
#

They are so fun to watch bc theyre either surprisngly good or just pepegas level

feral zodiac
#

For the memes

balmy wolf
#

i guess losing Rui was huge for hunters

feral zodiac
#

Justice getting rolled by boston lol

balmy wolf
#

they couldn't find another coach for them

feral zodiac
#

Imagine getting rolled by the jerry crew

tropic herald
#

Chengdu should consider not signing only players from China

daring geyser
#

Chex feeding

sly fog
#

Chex’s tracer was 🔥 last week not this week though. Sad

balmy wolf
#

hmm I mean the players in china are good, but hunters have seriously poor coaching

daring geyser
#

Lol Chex

sly fog
#

Hunters excel when they play to their strengths but that often isnt good enough to beat the coordination of better teams

feral zodiac
#

Ttuba wtf

daring geyser
#

TTUBA

#

5k

tropic herald
#

Theoretically the talent is good

daring geyser
#

6k

vagrant jacinth
#

shiiiit

sly fog
#

Aww jeez

vagrant jacinth
#

that was sick

tropic herald
#

Look at that

#

Nano your Genji in blade

#

Good idea

daring geyser
#

Punk is such a punk

sly fog
daring geyser
sly fog
daring geyser
#

TTUBA rolling

sly fog
#

Ttuba puttin in the work

daring geyser
#

Seed selection pog

tropic herald
#

Wow Justice turned on

#

Poggers

daring geyser
#

So is philly gonna be in ss or not

vagrant jacinth
#

ttuba actally going off this match

sly fog
#

A glimmer of hope

daring geyser
#

Chex on widow?

tropic herald
#

I’m proud of Justice

daring geyser
#

Nvm

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Jebaited

tropic herald
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Looks like they aren’t whimpering up and dying today

balmy wolf
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philly is locked in top 4 for SS

daring geyser
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Good

dreamy cave
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did anyone else see bob glitch?

daring geyser
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stich widow???

tropic herald
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Winnable

sly fog
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This is it.

dreamy cave
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this is also lose-able

daring geyser
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boston should win

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cause they are boston

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puuuunk

feral zodiac
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Puuunk

sly fog
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God damn i had such hope.

daring geyser
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JERRY

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NOOOOOOo

dreamy cave
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how did colorhex die?

daring geyser
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he died to his own bomb

sly fog
daring geyser
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plz c9 justice

feral zodiac
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??????

daring geyser
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bruh

feral zodiac
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What

daring geyser
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!?!?!??!?!

vagrant jacinth
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are you joking lmao

daring geyser
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jerry messed up rollout

dreamy cave
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big sad

sly fog
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That was anticlimactic

feral zodiac
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Fucking Jerry lol

tropic herald
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Did TTuba even get blade

vagrant jacinth
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gg boston ZaryaLUL

daring geyser
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jerry the chad

dreamy cave
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no

sly fog
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Ill take 1-1 at the half WashingtonJustice

vagrant jacinth
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he got blade but nano and slept too

daring geyser
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I hate when people play heroes because they got buffed

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especially genji

tropic herald
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Is this about to be a toilet bowl

daring geyser
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best genji ever??!?!?

sly fog
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-100 IQ

novel pelican
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To be fair genji got buffed to the point where hes actually extremely strong in OWL

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But ladder might be a different story

tropic herald
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Just realized that ANS had 56% scopes crit

balmy wolf
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whos playing now

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anyone?

tropic herald
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Justice and Boston

balmy wolf
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score

true hound
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1-1

feral zodiac
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He had better scoped crit accuracy than decay vs outlaws

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The fucking madlad

true hound
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how many elims did decay get that game

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the rialto round

next mesa
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forgot

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but scoped crit was 42% vs 56% so

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a lot better

lofty shale
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too bad philly vs shock was such a blowout, me and i would assume everyone else was hoping for a super intense game

balmy wolf
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the difference in ANS stat is that he wasnt putting on a carry performance

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his team just gave him so much space

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Guys if satan punishes bad people .. then he is actually good 🙂

tropic herald
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Yeah, it’s not like ANS was dragging Shock to a victory

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Shock just let ANS do whatever he wanted

daring geyser
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ans more like answer

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balmy wolf
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subscribe demon is always watching

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