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silk frost
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how well do you think CC would do in Korea or NA?

digital cloud
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what is CC again?

silk frost
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Shanghai academy team

digital cloud
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maybe decent

silk frost
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I think they could really preform

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especially with a shinier MT

rare magnet
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apparently bren is 190 cm he tall

digital cloud
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how is that tall

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that is pretty much average in many places

rare magnet
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190 isnt average anywhere

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6'3

digital cloud
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accidentally misread that as 180

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nvm

tropic herald
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Yeah Bren is kinda tall

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You know who is really tall

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Corey

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Fucking massive

worn falcon
tropic herald
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Soe is short too

worn falcon
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yes, Reinforce is 2m

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thats not avg

blissful wadi
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How tall is soe

worn falcon
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Soe is like 1.65m

blissful wadi
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What is 2m?

worn falcon
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2 meters

blissful wadi
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I mean in feet and inches

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6’6

worn falcon
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Reiforce is 6'7"

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and Soe is 5'3"

raw ermine
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omg

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she's so small

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actually

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remember?

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what sideshow said?

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he has a box

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FAKE

tropic herald
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Isn’t there another pro whos pretty tall?

balmy wolf
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meta athena disbanded

tropic herald
raw ermine
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F

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2016-2020

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thats gotta be the longest lasting roster to disband yet, no?

blissful wadi
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A lot of the old teams have disbanded

raw ermine
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effect, kris, hyeonu,libero,jerry,daemin,nus,rio,saya,shu,arhan all came from Meta athena

blissful wadi
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Yeah, they had talented player

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What does it say? I don’t speak Korean

raw ermine
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the tweet says the contract with meta gaming has ended but the picture text idk

true hound
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Rip

next mesa
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well fuck

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t2 really do be dying

blissful wadi
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Owl is starting to support it, it may be too late now

subtle basin
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Tf2’s gotten better since 2018. It’s numbers are higher than ever

blissful wadi
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No tier 2 pro ow not tf2

sullen berry
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@balmy wolf and so the legacy is dead

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!!serious @hallow umbra

young fractalBOT
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Serious discussion strictly related to Overwatch. Shitposting will result in a loss of access.

karmic grotto
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So they're gone as well

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I wish we didn't had this issue of teams leaving pro scene

quasi sky
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Do I have to watch owl live to get tokens or can I just watch the videos?

hot heart
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Ya have to watch it live

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@quasi sky

quasi sky
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Alright ty

hot heart
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Np

echo quest
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Meta Athena is gone

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T2 is dead now

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Effect, Nus, Libero, Hyeonu, Rio, Sayaplayer, aWesomeGuy, Shu, ArHan, Kris, SanSam, WhoRU, Jerry, Happy, Rise, Chara, Envy, AimGod, Marve1, J1N, AVALLA, TyDolla, Vol'Jin, Sungwoo, r2der

19 former Athena/Bellum players and 6 former Athena/Bellum coaches joined OWL at some point. I think no other org had as many OWL players as Meta Gaming.

olive owl
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when will next competitive week start? for OWL

upper niche
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no games this weekend, they're back the following weekend.

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oh, sorry, no games for two weeks.

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they're back like... June 13 or something?

sullen berry
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would have been a great opportunity for Vancouver and london to catch up on matches

quasi sky
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Why doesn’t stratus play anymore?

sullen berry
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Stratus is now a content creator for Justice

quasi sky
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Why

sullen berry
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not sure what kind of explanation you want here

quasi sky
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He inspired me to play doomfist 😭

sullen berry
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players come and go

quasi sky
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It ees what it ees

sullen berry
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i didn't expect corey and stratus their star players to go

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but look at their roster during the may melee

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their identity is going all korean

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Shanghai scrapped their all chinese roster during season 1

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Mayhem did the same in season 2

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look at how far they've come now

quasi sky
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Btw I’m fairly new to owl and barely know any players lol

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What season are we in right now?

sullen berry
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this is season 3

quasi sky
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I used to watch a little bit when owl first started and it only had a handful of teams

sullen berry
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yeah they expanded from 12 teams to 20

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maybe they might look at new teams next season, but it's too hard to say

viral veldt
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their identity is going all korean
@sullen berry why is like every team got like at least a half Korean roster?

sullen berry
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for... different reasons

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but you can safely assume they want to win the overwatch league with these rosters

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one method that these teams are doing is buying out a set of players who aren't in a country that stigmatizes playing video games for long hours

quasi sky
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When do teams change players?

sullen berry
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players get signed, traded or released anytime during the season

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but they must have a minimum 7 players on their roster

quasi sky
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Is there a maximum?

sullen berry
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12

echo quest
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Bren trying to carry sideshow in any game is funny af

echo quest
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Maybe tracer this time

echo quest
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Also have you guys seen the clip about sleepy talking about Washington’s management

karmic grotto
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which one

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what does he say

echo quest
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This was season 2 management

karmic grotto
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English lessons

viral veldt
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I'm watching that series rn

hidden vault
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the all korean roster for justice with runaway members still lost to Glads 3-0

obsidian glade
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Do someone want to play with me Overwatch on the ps4 in 30 minutes ?

karmic grotto
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wrong channel

balmy wolf
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the all korean roster for justice with runaway members still lost to Glads 3-0
@hidden vault yes but stitch and jjanu were both playing in korea at about 4 or 5am

cloud latch
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I forgot sleepy played on justice

karmic grotto
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Jjanu signed with justice

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If Justice has better management

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:)

blissful wadi
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Wait so why couldn’t the Americans learn Korean?

silk frost
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why couldn't the koreans learn American??

blissful wadi
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Because the management wasn’t giving them lessons

silk frost
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I was joking because Vancouver basically did that lol

tropic herald
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Washington management OMEGALUL

barren quest
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Just go full KR roster to fix everything

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/s

blissful wadi
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That’s what Washington did

barren quest
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Well it worked well for Mayhem

tropic herald
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Yeah but Mayhem have good management

worn falcon
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This thread

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OH MY

tropic herald
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Sideshow is going to get rolled

worn falcon
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Lord Yaki for the entire year

tropic herald
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Thinking about how BQB has a clean widow

cloud latch
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can you imagine if they actually sign sideshow

karmic grotto
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they woudlnt

cloud latch
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and play him in a match

karmic grotto
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it's a joke

tropic herald
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Pending league approval

raw ermine
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He beat custa in a pharah 1v1, why not yaki?

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lol

true hound
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yessir

tropic herald
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Custa doesn’t play Pharah though

raw ermine
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sideshow is a meme-feeder

worn falcon
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The good meme feeder

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Lord yaki

silk frost
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shouldn't it be Bren to 1v1 him

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since bren?

hot heart
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Brenomaker

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Brenji

raw ermine
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I can't tell if this is real, but I am worried

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nothing on nyxl twitter

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probably JJ being a memer

silk frost
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it's not

pale roost
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That would be a bomb if it was real tho

raw ermine
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cursed af

next mesa
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apparently yaki was known for his nutty pharah before his tracer

tropic herald
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Well yes

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He do be a flex dps player

worn falcon
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Monte and Avast talk

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with Harsha and Packing

karmic grotto
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about what

worn falcon
silk frost
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"10 minutes and I can try to regain some clout with the overwatch community after shitting all over it for 10 months"

karmic grotto
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so we were right

raw ermine
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He's saying this so casually like it had been a thing he has always done

blissful wadi
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He’s trying to say that pine left because of hero bans

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And players like pine aren’t good in this meta

karmic grotto
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well, the league can't just change the format because of ONE player

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because you have owl players who do like hero pools

raw ermine
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pine was already gone... before hero bans were every a thing

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does he mean from overwatch entirely?

karmic grotto
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could be that he knew

raw ermine
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he plays a mix of OW, Valorant, and Apex on twitch

limber pine
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Pine retired in December, well before the public announcement of hero pools

raw ermine
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yea

next mesa
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monte is braindead

sullen berry
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Monte is also supportive of hero role queue. What he's talking about now and the implications are larger than you might think

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This is the most engagement to Monte's overwatch content since late 2019

blissful wadi
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It’s so sad to see where he is now

storm cloak
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when asking join boston

echo quest
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When OW2 launches blizzard really need to look at the concept of FPL

karmic grotto
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ask jake to give a word

echo quest
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He did two years ago

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Sinatraa said the same thing like last year

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He said something like Esea or FPL should be implemented in OW

karmic grotto
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Playing ranked is dogshit

echo quest
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Facts

karmic grotto
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I was watching ChipSa stream an hour ago

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Zarya and Ana brain dead positioning

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Dying for no reason

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Gm games and top 500

echo quest
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Dude Esea is so fucking sweaty. People who are GE can barely stay rank B in Esea

karmic grotto
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Makes no sense

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Like, this is as you said

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Why pro players and high sr barely play ranked

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I remember Harbleu streaming often, emongg, kabaji

echo quest
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Dude if you win trade in the Esea and get reported your fucked

karmic grotto
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They almost don't stream

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Mods are quick

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In those leagues right

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24/7 mod

echo quest
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the Anti cheat is extremely good. Cheats that cost over 5k get detected

karmic grotto
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5k cheats? Wtf

echo quest
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Dude people buy skins for much more lmao

karmic grotto
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I guess if the competitive settings is valued so high

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I understand why skins are expensive

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It's worth it

echo quest
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There is a literal skin that was sold for 120k

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Usd

karmic grotto
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In a game with barely control, people will leave it

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Overwatch used to be big

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used to

echo quest
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Ye I don’t think something like Esea is viable now

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Not enough players

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For high ranks

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But FPL is

karmic grotto
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What is the difference?

echo quest
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ESEA is for anyone but generally players only above LE join cuz you will get destroyed. It’s also has different leagues from Open to all the way to pro ESL

karmic grotto
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Like Overwatch path to pro?

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Except, better

echo quest
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FPL is basically only Pros and special cases like god tier streamers or former pros or Just ladder Demi gods.

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And you can get kicked from the FPL

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Even as a pro

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ESEA has different ranks from D- to rank S which is basically All pros

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And has 5 leagues for 5v5s

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To put you in perspective how good even Esea open teams are they are all GE in Normal MM

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Which basically is 1% of the player base

karmic grotto
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What is GE?

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Global Elite?

echo quest
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Yes

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Highest rank in normal MM

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Basically GM

karmic grotto
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If you say it like that, I guess those GE of Overwatch would be, in realistic terms, 4.6k+ matches

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There are a hidden majority of players who are Gm top 500 but don't play ranked

echo quest
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Upper Echelon of ESEA open are just god like and these guys will never even come close to being pro

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It’s actually incredible

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And that’s just open lmaoo

karmic grotto
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If OW had such system

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We would have potentially seen players better than for example Haksal

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But they just don't motivation to play OW

echo quest
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More ladder gods like Jjonak would be like discovered

karmic grotto
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Due nature of ranked

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Ye

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Jjonak tho

echo quest
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From what I remember The NA pro scene in cs uses ESEA while EU use FPL more

karmic grotto
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Maybe EU is more supported

echo quest
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They have more abundance of pro players

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While Na is Na they don’t like sweats that much

karmic grotto
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Hehe

echo quest
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Why sweat against 5 pros when you can just play a decent version of ladder

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#NA mentality

karmic grotto
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Dafran though, one of his early valorant he said that he finally found a game where players of equal skill are competing

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And he was right

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He found his game

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Cuz overwatch didn't try to meet the standards

echo quest
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Riot will probably add a FPL like system

karmic grotto
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Blizzard isn't known for competitive scene

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But Riot

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Is good

echo quest
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And Dafran boutta spam those every day

karmic grotto
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I can see Dafran playing highest rank of fpl

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With ease

echo quest
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The various Regional leagues in LOL have great support systems

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It’s also a great place to watch washed pros lmao

karmic grotto
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XD

echo quest
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Ngl if something like Esea existed in OW I would play ranked more

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People who truly cares about comp could too

earnest leaf
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I'm an idiot

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what is fpl

echo quest
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Face it pro league

earnest leaf
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k ty

echo quest
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It’s something from csgo

karmic grotto
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Maybe I'll create a thread on comp sub and ask for their opinion. Also, can't be boosted to play in those leagues ultrasmug

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Ya will be booted

echo quest
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That’s true

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But the thing is

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It’s paid

karmic grotto
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That's great security

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It establishes trust

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Trust in the system that's 24/7 available

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Blizzard can literally

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Gain profit from it

echo quest
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It’s like 9 dollars a month

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Not that much

karmic grotto
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Exactly

echo quest
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I paid for it

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Cuz I was GE in Cs right? Best decision ever

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I have not touched ranked in the normal game for 4 years now

karmic grotto
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^

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Not sure who here in this server has the contacts but if Blizzard really wants to establish a worldwide franchise league

echo quest
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With the long ass Q times now

karmic grotto
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They should start with ranked

echo quest
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Not possible

karmic grotto
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Also matches imbalanced

echo quest
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128 tick servers

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So poggers

karmic grotto
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I'll never forget watching kabaji stream where a 3.8k tank had to play against Super

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That shit should not happen

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That is not competitive

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It actually makes the player, how you say that

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...

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Unmotivated

echo quest
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Forget super any 4.2k+ MT would crush the dude

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Feelsbadman

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FaceIt is the other Third party MM used in CS and is cheaper

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But most people in it are average or lower ranks

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So good pugs but if your good you use Esea for that ultra sweat experience

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Plus Esea doesn’t fuck around, yes people can sometimes be toxic but if they are extremely toxic they can get suspension or perma ban

karmic grotto
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Good

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Overwatch current has 64 tickrate

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What difference will 128 make?

echo quest
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Smoothness and delay

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Not sure how much of a difference it would make in OW but in CS it feels a lot better

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As it leads to more accurate inputs for shots

livid pier
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Does anyone know when will the next overwatch league be?

echo quest
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3 weeks or sum shit

karmic grotto
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I want teaser

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Of ow2 maps maps heroes

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If heroes

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Sojourn

tropic herald
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June 13th

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Also

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No BlizzCon

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Some parts of an interview

raw ermine
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lmaoo

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hey, sfs, need someone who will do dishes, I am always here

worn falcon
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This is the interview with crusty

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A. Moth is having a hard time. He’s scared to play Zen, but he still plays Zen whenever the team needs. With Twilight we would be prepared for a double flex support meta, I think it’ll be good. ```
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A. He had a wrist injury, he got sick, and also he asked for a break himself. So we promised that he would be in matches in the future, and we gave him some time off. ```
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A. All the dive comp teams in NA are getting trounced. Shock, Glads – the teams that used dive as their main comp got bodied. Fusion used dive and lost as well. Dive is one of those comps where it won’t allow even a single mistake. Dive is popular in Asia but NA has a lot of teams that are good at the counter-attack. Brig is still in the mix, in NA it’s easier to counter-attack. ```
raw ermine
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I saw twitlonger and became nervous

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striker needs time of absolutely

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dude is a god

upper niche
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@karmic grotto I was pretty sure it was 60Hz for public servers and 120Hz for OWL, I've never seen 64/128 stated anywhere

balmy wolf
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Team doge is so good

sullen berry
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can't make this up. New second wind about to take to to map5 tiebreaker

balmy wolf
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@sullen berry

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u know all those

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have already been played

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they're just showing vods

livid pier
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thanks!

storm cloak
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It's interesting that we see different meta trends in different regions

blissful wadi
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Yeah, but it’s to be expected

sullen berry
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I'm not exactly online enough to follow EU or NA contenders

balmy wolf
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Dafrans big brain using frame drops to see where enemies are... In valorant lol...

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This guy is just out of his fucking mind.

sullen berry
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he brings up an interesting point

blissful wadi
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Didn’t he say that he was joking and that that didn’t actually work

earnest mural
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Hello

sullen berry
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checked a valorant video about it.
what if game sense which is proper intangible to measure includes (apart from several real factors) passively knowing that of information?

earnest mural
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Wow you are very smart!And now i will take my unintelligent brain to the other servers

sullen berry
balmy wolf
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ay @sullen berry u seem pre smart i support VancouverTitans vancover titans do u think there gonna do better this time i went through a chronic deppriosn when they got 18th!!!!!!!!!!!!! so yeah they probally wont but ya know ur honaast opion

blissful wadi
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No they won’t do better than 19th this year, sorry

balmy wolf
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lol true im diying

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crys in chinese

gaunt acorn
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im sure this will be deleted soon

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fine incoming

karmic grotto
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he not wrong

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one tricks are annoying af

keen dagger
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ah yes the good old one trick debate GWmemetownKappaChino

karmic grotto
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harbleu playing d.va is really messed up

echo quest
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I don’t fw with Monte but I really recommend watching his podcast with Harsha and Packing10

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His proposal for OWL format was actually pretty good

karmic grotto
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what was it?

echo quest
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Basically an open circuit similar to CS

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Vizility quit OW fuck dude

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Another OWL talent overlooked

echo quest
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Dafran UNBANNED

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Poggers

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And he is gonna play OW

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DOUBLE POGGERS

karmic grotto
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Hahaha

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Vizility is better off living with his girlfriend

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Or fiancé

echo quest
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Dafran got rolled his first game and then proceeded to drop a 50 bomb

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His tracking has gotten slightly worse but the dude is god tier on mcree now

true hound
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fellas overwatch KR is streaming LW blue vs runaway semifinals Apex S2

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Aka the famous eye of the kaiser play game

echo quest
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Dafran said he won’t play valorant a lot if they don’t fix the ranking system

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Poggers

true hound
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nice

karmic grotto
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Ranking system in Valorant should be like ESEA and FPL

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Can't have people throwing or being afk

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I'd understand him

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Csgo has the same

lyric mango
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poopy

upper niche
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THe best ranking systems are the ones that don't re-rank immediately. ie, it's a bulk job once a week that takes in to accounts players who are reported, who leave games and disconnect, who lost 20 games in a row, etc. And that only move people by small amounts rather than swings that can be 20% of the entire playerbase in just a single weekend.

glad veldt
deep wolf
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more mercy one trickery

tropic herald
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The comment sections in both are funny

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Everyone going: True

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Then the mercy one tricks getting mad at the tweet

true hound
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At least the boosted moth number has gone down

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I remember that clip of a streamer seeing someone who had 900 sr one season playing the DPS characters

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and then the next season got GM one tricking mercy

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and then there’s that clip of Calvin getting pissed about EeveeA being in T500

primal minnow
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I mean some moth mains actually do belong in GM

balmy wolf
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I really would like to see a match off on doom Blasé vs ChipSa

true hound
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honestly he’s

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yes

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both are so good

next mesa
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problem with valorant is like csgo

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like what do you do after you get valorant rank

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and also there's no like top 500

tiny seal
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the maximum rank is valorant @next mesa

next mesa
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exactly

tiny seal
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exactly what

echo quest
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That’s not the problem

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Its the MM at the highest level is dogshit

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In CS especially as being global Elite (Highest rank) doesn’t mean jack shit cuz it was made easier to get and I’ll give valorant the benefit of the doubt cuz it’s in beta but there are so many immortals and Valorants that don’t belong there

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There is a reason why anyone that is elite at CS doesn’t play normal MM

limber pine
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Valorant is out next week no?

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their "benefit of the doubt" is drying up fast

barren quest
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Valorant releases on Tuesday

swift moth
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wdym by benefit of the doubt?

echo quest
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A Riot Dev said they have planned changes to MM on a thread in the Valorant subreddit

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They just didn’t implement them in the beta

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Probably gonna use the few weeks that ranked is not available for to implement it

oblique cloud
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when is the next overwatch esport stream

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i need those sweet sweet token

raw ermine
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3 weeks from the last match

true hound
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june 13

raw ermine
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Damn Yaki nows has 6 player of the match awards

raw ermine
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EU finals

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wait

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It's a premier

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nvm

golden dagger
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sub to my onlyfans

swift moth
lyric mango
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poopy butt hole

karmic grotto
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@echo quest can you summarise what monte said about league?

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nvm, I can watch the vod

next mesa
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is monte opinion relevant doe

blissful wadi
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Nah

balmy wolf
blissful wadi
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He’s kinda speakin facts tho

raw ermine
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Best part is Khaleesi saying "avoid me, you're free SR"

silk frost
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proof that SR doesn't matter

raw ermine
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homie is an OWL MT

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yeah

silk frost
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SR isn't a measure of skill, but of willingness to practice

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and grind

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but only the competitive skillsets

jagged crater
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wasnt khaleesi the girl that outed some perv

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oh yea mouffin

blissful wadi
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Isn’t she like plat tho? Why is she calling out an owl player

digital cloud
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I think he probably would have been less disagreed with if he had called out one tricks in general

gaunt acorn
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@blissful wadi huh?

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i don't understand your implication at all

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should you only be able to expose pedophiles if you're gm..?

digital cloud
#

I think he was talking about calling out Dreamer, not Mouffin

jagged crater
#

lol

karmic grotto
#

Why is she relevant

jagged crater
#

oh yea the free SR thing makes no sense to me

past spoke
#

dreamer posted that about khaleesi

#

they fought ingame

#

thats where her response came from

karmic grotto
#

But isn't she a one trick?

past spoke
#

yes

tropic herald
#

I think every OWL player has had some sort of tussle with her

gaunt acorn
#

well mouffin lost

#

lol

past spoke
#

surefour had to tell dreamer to stop bc he was flaming her

karmic grotto
#

Imagine if an owl player would one trick hero

tropic herald
#

Mouffin was in the wrong no doubt though

past spoke
#

super hard when she just tried to move on

#

mouffin shit is so unrelated

karmic grotto
#

Owl players usually want to win

past spoke
#

anyways he loved mercy OTPs

#

literally

karmic grotto
#

They can switch of heroes

past spoke
#

anyone wants to win

karmic grotto
#

To ensure win

past spoke
#

why are u talking abt this like u are in the game

karmic grotto
#

Then you have one tricks

past spoke
#

dreamer locked winston on volskaya

karmic grotto
#

That makes it difficult

past spoke
#

khaleesi asked him to pick a diff tank pls

#

he started hard flaming her

digital cloud
#

aren't you the guy that loves Chipsa?

karmic grotto
#

But she didn't want to switch mercy

past spoke
#

ME???

digital cloud
#

no, Adriel

karmic grotto
#

She switched?

#

Or not

past spoke
#

he didnt ask her to until she asked him

tropic herald
#

Neither hero is good there

karmic grotto
#

Ah the classic

#

I do the same tho

#

Won't switch until the other switches

#

Either we go or we both suffer

past spoke
#

mercy is actually not bad rn in ranked

#

echo ashe meta

#

easy pocket to win

tropic herald
#

Yeah but she’s as useful as the dps are

past spoke
#

shes a good mercy player

#

playing with surefour

#

you calling surefour shit? alright

karmic grotto
tropic herald
#

You are taking words out of my mouth

#

Not letting me speak

#

Please relax

past spoke
#

just annoying seeing ppl talk informed about a situation they dont know shit about

#

not getting mad at you

blissful wadi
#

@gaunt acorn what she did calling out mouffin was great, I was talking about dreamer

past spoke
#

this isnt a voice chat wdym im not letting u speak

#

just type...

gaunt acorn
#

i understand now

#

it seemed yikes in the context of the message above yours

tropic herald
#

It’s a phrase...

blissful wadi
#

I understand

jagged crater
#

are we mad at dreamer or mercy otps

past spoke
#

both

#

i hate mercy otps

tropic herald
#

I think being mad at both is fair

blissful wadi
#

I’m with dreamer

tropic herald
#

One mercy is the weakest main support

past spoke
#

but ppl dragging khaleesi kind of weird considering the context

tropic herald
#

Two Winston sucks on Volskaya

blissful wadi
#

Having a mercy and zen sucks balls as a tank

tropic herald
#

Albeit

gaunt acorn
#

having a mercy otp sucks but hardcore flaming one in ranked as an owl player isnt cool either

digital cloud
#

I think dreamer was probably too rude, and specific about it, but I agree one tricking, at least in comp, is harmful

gaunt acorn
#

lets leave it at that

past spoke
#

yea

tropic herald
#

Dive is lowkey meta in Korea

past spoke
#

ya*

tropic herald
#

Maybe it’s what dreamer is trying to get better at

past spoke
#

anyways we beat revival today

tropic herald
#

Either way both parties bad

past spoke
#

watch t2

tropic herald
#

Naisu

past spoke
tropic herald
#

Team Doge lost

digital cloud
#

to who?

#

to whom*

#

eh

#

whichever is correct

tropic herald
#

Third Impact

digital cloud
#

well, not too surprising

#

I would say the teams are similar in skill

worn falcon
#

What is happening with Runaways?

#

👀

#

also ooof Busan Wave

raw ermine
#

this is funny AF

#

Under Bug fixes:
"Haloofthoughts’ contributions will no longer be mistaken for reporting or creative output within the scene."

#

"Fixed a bug in which MonteCristo’s Twitter feed would show up on r/cow’s new."

digital cloud
#

who made this lol

balmy wolf
#

dk

#

fuk defiant

#

they beat my team and put them in 18thZenyattaCry

raw ermine
#

yiska made it

digital cloud
#

oof

blissful wadi
#

Is runaway the oldest contenders team still going?

silk frost
#

@worn falcon Runaway has had a bit of a rough year because the quality of players isn't quite as incredible, the scouting actually wasn't incredible for once.
Also I'm pretty sure GC busan wave has been shit for a couple years lol

worn falcon
#

mfw fl0w3r can't carry >:(

#

GC Busan was somewhat decent, tho its true i lost their stuff because i didnt followed close.

silk frost
#

flower is like a well done load of laundry

#

washed as fuck

worn falcon
#

lol

silk frost
#

I'm moreso surprised with mag, Assassin, Mer1t, and Revenge

worn falcon
#

also isnt Kaiser retired?

silk frost
#

not yet

#

he's in 02

raw ermine
#

yeah

#

he is lamenting about the state of the game tho

worn falcon
#

yeah, saw in 02, thought he retired because that

blissful wadi
#

Is he owl level

#

As a main tank?

halcyon surge
#

only on rein maybe

blissful wadi
#

I mean bumper played in owl

halcyon surge
#

haven't seen him play in a while so idk if he improved on the other tanks

silk frost
#

if he works on the game again then yes, if not no

#

if he tried he could easily be middle of the pack

blissful wadi
#

Doesn’t he still play for the best Korean contenders team?

silk frost
#

there is no such thing as the "best" korean contenders team anymore

#

every week is different

blissful wadi
#

Oh I don’t watch contenders so

silk frost
#

team CC (a chinese contenders team) is probably the best contenders team at the moment except maybe 3rd Impact or Team Doge

#

athough 3rd impact losing zykk was a blow

blissful wadi
#

Yeah, where did shockwave come from?

silk frost
#

I think doge

tropic herald
#

Raspberry Pi

#

Or something like that

#

Team Raspberry?

blissful wadi
#

Raspberry racers

tropic herald
#

Idr the name but it’s an EU team

upper niche
#

@raw ermine bahahah, "Increased the number of players or teams which can be put into a top 5 list by 2 (now 9).
We've monitored feedback channels and have decided that you guys desperately need this."

silk frost
#

yeah it was Raspberry Racers

blissful wadi
#

I know because there is a marbles team with the same name lmao

silk frost
#

lol

#

is it a hot take to say team CC is the best team in contenders right now?

blissful wadi
#

I honestly don’t know

#

Is it a hot take to say Shanghai is the best team in owl rn

silk frost
#

maybe

#

it's either them or Shock, but I think Shock is better

tropic herald
#

Not hot at all

#

It’s Shanghai or Shock

silk frost
#

I mean CC beat T1 in April, who's a good contenders team

#

in Korea

#

Korean contenders is in the point where some of the OD teams that don't make it in are better than teams in other regions

raw ermine
#

4 days til sp9rk1e

digital cloud
#

well, yeah, but OWL is on break

silk frost
#

well, yeah, but sp9rk1e is like 7 internally

balmy wolf
#

can somebody help me

#

how do i get someone battlenet number from thier name

raw ermine
#

wrong channel

balmy wolf
#

thx

sullen berry
#

i support :VancouverTitans: vancover titans do u think there gonna do better this time i went through a chronic deppriosn when they got 18th!!!!!!!!!!!!! so yeah they probally wont but ya know ur honaast opion
@balmy wolf
If you follow the players on this new Titans roster as much as the runaway players, you will be in for a surprise

#

shockwave doing good work, the rest of the players have some more catching up to do

#

I see them going top 15 at best if they can maintain a win streak

#

but it wasn't happening before, but if they aren't on a map losing streak against toronto? I doubt they can get any higher than top 18 in their current state

#

rest assured they'll get a win... eventually

#

We've seen it last year with the Justice and Valiant beating the Titans last year, so the W could come from anyone

vapid lynx
#

Tiger Nation 🐯

#

🧡🤍

jagged crater
#

vancouvies

blissful wadi
#

I feel bad for them

narrow pawn
#

Who's one player you guys miss in the OWL?

#

Mine is either xQC or Dafran

sullen berry
#

Missing streamers aside

narrow pawn
#

yea I feel like streamers just wanted to get back in their flexible game days where they choose when to play

#

that's why they left OWL

sullen berry
#

a commitment of 12 to 24 months at one game is kinda hard if you play well when it's just for fun

#

The financial incentive to win and contract negotiations can take a toll and make it more stressful if you aren't into grinding smarter

#

Not harder

narrow pawn
#

Yup

frozen perch
#

Contenders have 500 viewers, what a shame

rotund sail
#

ive never watched Aussie Contenders

#

ive only ever watched NA

#

bruh theyre matching

sullen berry
#

Its great alright

#

I’m counting on WE sponsored by Vodafone, our local equivalent of Comcast

#

WE = Warriors Esports for the 3-2

untold nexus
#

i'm sorry @sullen berry

#

😛

#

dont know AU teams tho

karmic grotto
#

Jake mentioned a FPL system for overwatch in his AMA

#

And I agree

sullen berry
#

You don't really have to lmao

#

It's the Sydney drop bears

#

🐨

#

MF are alright as well

#

Why hold back now

#

This is the region region that birthed Punk

#

Whose doing tremendously well for Boston Uprising

#

Chronodota who was a swede from AU Contenders is the best western sigmas since release

#

Lastly, to flex on OW League in general

#

AU Contenders have solid, reliable production compared to some of the shoddy VODs we got for the first 4 weeks of online play

#

At least contenders overall have more experience producing matches for online play for longer even if the prize pools are less in comparison

true sedge
#

ㅗㅑ

#

hi

sullen berry
#

Hello there 👋🏻

raw ermine
#

Bruh I had a dream smurf got traded to Boston.

silk frost
#

nightmare*

sullen berry
#

Or another Australian contenders player gets signed to Boston and nobody else scouts the AU Contenders scene ever again

#

By that point it's team Australia with myungbong and Fusions

blissful wadi
#

And Jerry

worn falcon
#

🤔

raw ermine
#

cool

#

wtf is this

#

Is this guy legit what he says he is

worn falcon
#

LOL

raw ermine
#

uhh

#

I didn't know

digital cloud
#

it is kind of useless from what I know

hot heart
#

Unless you're getting spawncamped

#

Other than that yeah its probably useless

true hound
#

wait what

#

hold up

#

where is that

digital cloud
#

volsyaya

true hound
#

no like

digital cloud
#

volskaya*

true hound
#

is it after you cap A

digital cloud
#

yeah

true hound
#

holy shit

digital cloud
#

for attack

raw ermine
#

I just checked

#

it does exist

#

wow

cloud latch
#

bruh

hot heart
#

I kinda knew that existed but also just forgot completely about it at some point

cloud latch
#

I knew that platform existed but I didn't know it was a spawn door

hot heart
#

Everyone knew the platform existed but you kind of tunnel vision out of the main spawn door and never check the other one

worn falcon
hot heart
#

Ooooooo

#

Please get 5 kills please

digital cloud
#

this is legit?

#

noice

#

I almost think sideshow can do it

hot heart
#

He'll become chipsa for 2 weeks

#

He probably can

#

Well

#

Hopefully

#

I mean the guy was a tf2 pro

digital cloud
#

this is him vs Yaki

hot heart
#

So maybe

#

But yeah

#

Yaki

#

So idk

#

Thank you for posting this here @worn falcon

digital cloud
#

these are the kinds of things I like bout OWL

#

weird stuff like this

#

the cat choosing the bans

#

that time bren came in with those god awful tights

#

the goat

rugged saffron
#

Hi everyone

#

I had a question, are any of y’all looking for a team, we are not super competitive, but there will be practices for an up coming tourney

#

Ages 11-14 only

digital cloud
#

wrong channel

rugged saffron
#

Oops

#

Sry

raw ermine
#

btw you have to be 13 to be on discord

#

so yeah

smoky geode
#

can you watch contenders on the owl website

next mesa
#

recognition?

tropic herald
swift moth
#

im hyped for sideshow v yaki

#

its like bridomaker last yeat

sullen berry
#

Unter

#

Valiant stonks going to break the roof

narrow pawn
#

Why do I feel like Architect should've stayed with the SF Shock

#

Like I feel like he was such a good fit for the team

sullen berry
#

Spark have wanted Architect since the start of Season 2

narrow pawn
#

Twilight is a solid pickup for their support lineup tho, especially with Moth and Violet...

#

But yea Architect and Rascal were just insane together

sullen berry
#

Thats how committed they were to have all their old contenders players back together. GodsB and Architect played on the same team in Contenders Korea

narrow pawn
#

oh I didn't know that

#

thx for telling me

sullen berry
#

Never forget those APEX tournaments

#

X6-gaming was pretty average against some very good competition when jehong and old dallas fuel players were at their peak then

narrow pawn
#

Lunatic Hai and Envy

#

Damn those teams were insane

sullen berry
#

They really want to bring the gang back together and have more potential to succeed with this lineup for once they work on improving iDK’s mechanics

#

I think their off support and tank synergy to take a hit

narrow pawn
#

Miro, Zunba, Jehong, Tobi, Whoru, and Esca

#

That was my favorite lineup

#

Low-key miss Miro and Esca

sullen berry
#

Runaway during season 4

narrow pawn
#

It's sad to know they just fell apart in Season 1 of the OWL

#

Same with the Dallas Fuel

digital cloud
#

I still wonder why

narrow pawn
#

Wonder what?

digital cloud
#

they were undeniably great before

narrow pawn
#

I guess they just couldn't adapt and keep up with the meta

sullen berry
#

Better make sure you set your clovks then for the lunatic hai vs runaway exhibition match this weekend

narrow pawn
#

OH SHIT I forgot about that lol

sullen berry
#

Its this weekend

narrow pawn
#

Wait is it the OG lineup?

sullen berry
#

As OG as they get mate

narrow pawn
#

Bro

#

My dreams have come true

#

lol

raw ermine
tropic herald
#

Good pickup

digital cloud
#

Muma would be better

raw ermine
#

as a tank coach?

digital cloud
#

true

raw ermine
karmic grotto
#

Tank coach?

#

Interesting

raw ermine
#

Yeah

#

Beast could use some work

#

since numlocked is MT

tropic herald
#

CarCar the main support for Vancouver Titans just finished high school

raw ermine
#

noice

#

Like Zachareee

vagrant valve
#

Man the top sure dose feel nice. Fusion for lyfe

hot heart
#

Nomegalul

tropic herald
#

Fusion just got boomed by Mayhem

sullen berry
#

@raw ermine now this is an an epic way to announce something. Shame only texas and canadian based teams have dedicated team podcasts

#

numlocked getting some stage time, even if it's online

#

he brought us some amazing tech when he was on British Hurricane

balmy wolf
true hound
#

damn

raw ermine
#

I thought foxes had disbanded already

next mesa
#

I think what happened was just miro became a below average tank after s1 and better talent came along

tropic herald
#

MVP skin is soon

#

“Really soon” - Sinatraa

cloud latch
#

ahh I need like 80 more

sullen berry
blissful wadi
#

There’s mobile esports? People really out here playin pro clash of clans smh

sullen berry
#

Several past owl players in full force

worn falcon
#

Nice

sullen berry
#

This is how most of my top ashe highlights go

blissful wadi
#

Why do lucky future players out lf before their names

#

I’ve seen some other contenders teams do it as well

sullen berry
#

In Chinese contenders and a lot of pro esports teams in other games

#

They use a team prefix

#

It's there for the branding

#

But it also doubles as a method of keeping all the players unified

#

You want a good example

#

Watch any Chinese contenders match vs GZA

sullen berry
#

Without the prefix in a scene that use them all the time, Guangzhou Academy played and looked like a Quickplay team

fading turret
#

uwu

rotund sail
#

KR is back on stage wat??

#

i mean I like it

balmy wolf
#

There’s mobile esports? People really out here playin pro clash of clans smh
@blissful wadi yes thats actually a thing

#

so is pro clash royale

#

@rotund sail lockdown ended in kr

karmic grotto
#

so

#

lucky future is not zenith anymore

#

is it standalone like team doge?

hot heart
#

Wekeed and munckin reunited TracerHappy

silk frost
#

My friend is making an Overwatch team for some Brawl Stars org that's expanding

hot heart
#

Cool

silk frost
#

I mostly just wanted to continue that "mobile esports" convo lol

hot heart
#

Mobile sports

#

Lmao

#

If news outlets think esports is a joke what would they think of mobile esports

raw ermine
#

It's clash royale

next mesa
#

yes

#

im pro brawl stars player

swift moth
#

I think mobile e-sports are scuffed rn because I don't see too many games that can actually have esports

vernal marsh
#

duck

balmy wolf
#

fish noise

echo quest
#

Goddamn the LCK music is so good

#

Owl needs to do better

raw ermine
#

the jeff song is the best tho

#

jeffjeffjeffjeffjeff

#

omg gods was streaming overwatch

#

pogggggggg

true hound
#

ye

#

lmao even kephrii went back

#

and sinatraa

worn falcon
#

Well there is no valorant for them till next week

true hound
#

that is true

hot heart
#

They probably fully stop playing OW when valorant is back

true hound
#

i wonder how much viewership will increase

hot heart
#

At least stop streaming it

true hound
#

when valorant releases for real

#

but the thing is doesnt feel like a full release

#

just like the game's servers are down for 4 days

karmic grotto
#

dafran playing ow

#

and having fun sometimes

true hound
#

they shoulda had the Beta for a small amount of time

#

2 weeks or something

#

have a break

#

then release for real

echo quest
#

@true hound valorant is down

#

Is why

true hound
#

ye

#

im wondering though

#

if the playerbase doesnt go up much

#

and viewership keeps droppin

#

will they come back and stream more OW

echo quest
#

Sinatraa sentinel jersey Feelsbadman

#

The playerbase will go up and one thing people need to realize is viewership doesn’t equal to Health of a game

#

Csgo sits on 20k viewers without pro matches

#

And is the second most popular esport in the world

#

After Lol

true hound
#

true

raw ermine
#

Anyone good at math?

#

I am sad to say I answered this

digital cloud
#

I am decentish?

#

why do you ask

raw ermine
#

it's a math problem

short sparrow
#

15

#

Wonder if that has any more meaning

raw ermine
#

yeah

#

I got 15 too

#

ppl are saying 16

digital cloud
#

probably an order of operations thing

#

but it should be fifteen

#

||boy is 10, pen is 1, pistols are 5||

raw ermine
#

yeah

#

lemme post my mathematical proof

#

||Assume 1 pen=x, 1 HZS player=y, 1 pulse pistol=z
2y+2z=30
2x+2z=12
so we subtract the equations, and get 2y-2x=18, and y-x=9
next equation, y+2x+z=17, rearrange and substitute in y-x=9 to y=x-9 so we have x-9+2x+z=17,
simplify to 3x+z-9=17
3x+z=8
we now have 3x+z=8 and 2x+2z=12, and if we subtract those equations, we get -x+z=4
isolate z so we have z=x+4, sub that in and we get 3x+x+4=8, which becomes 4x+4=8, and 4x=4, and x=1
now we solve for z,31+z=8, 3+z=8, z=5
solve for y, 2z+2y=30 2
5+2y=30, 10+2y=30 2y=20 y=10
final equation, z+y ** x 5+10**1 5+10=15
final answer 15. ||

#

the asterisk messes it up cause its the bold thing or whatever

limber pine
#

da fack is this

raw ermine
#

quick mafs

#

well, 5 min mafs

digital cloud
#

I just plugged in numbers lol

#

that works though

short sparrow
#

I first assumed two of each together meant squared :(

silk frost
#

it's 16

#

yall dum

digital cloud
#

Explain how you derived that

true hound
#

yes

tropic herald
#

15

raw ermine
#

we doing calc now? lol

tropic herald
#

People pulling out Calc for this algebra equation

summer sparrow
#

What’s 9+10 is the hardest mathematical calculation

deep wolf
#

guys are you ready!!!

digital cloud
#

can we ever truly be ready for such a legendary show down

deep wolf
#

bruh

#

Sideshow only needs five kills to win 👀

digital cloud
#

yeah

#

and I am almost willing to bet Yaki gets all 20 without him getting one

#

almost

deep wolf
#

sideshow is practicing

digital cloud
#

using a rocket jump script

#

lol

#

he is only hitting like one every six shots

#

which is not bad, actually, but pro Pharah's are obscenely good

deep wolf
#

its happening!!!

digital cloud
#

the yaki coronation ceremony

raw ermine
#

a 2 week contract would be hilarious

digital cloud
#

"lions only try hard even if they are only hunting rabbits"

#

hah

raw ermine
#

lmaooooo

karmic grotto
#

Sideshow destroyed

#

One trash talk from Yaki vs hundreds of sideshow

#

Dominance established

digital cloud
#

first kill to yaki

#

second to yaki

#

third to Yaki

raw ermine
#

woahhhhhhhhhhhh

digital cloud
#

fourth to sideshow

deep wolf
#

1-3 LETS GO

digital cloud
#

fifth to yaki

raw ermine
#

oh no

deep wolf
#

2-4 !!!!!!!!!!!!

digital cloud
#

6th to Yaki

raw ermine
#

?

digital cloud
#

seventh to Yaki

#

eighth to Yaki

deep wolf
#

OUCH

digital cloud
#

ninth to Yaki

#

tenth to Yaki

#

eleventh to Yaki

raw ermine
#

oh

digital cloud
#

twelth to Yaki

deep wolf
#

YAKI 10 - 3 SIDESHOW

#

THE DREAM IS ALIVE

raw ermine
#

hot take...

#

lmaoooooooooooooooooooooooo

#

ahahahahah

#

swimmer is here rn

#

rekt

#

ahahahah

#

we've seen what he can do to lamp posts

#

?

#

Nksgrdkflgdjhgvm

#

HE DID IT

#

WHAT

#

THE

digital cloud
#

the throw

deep wolf
raw ermine
#

FUCK

deep wolf
#

HE DID IT

raw ermine
#

NAHHHHH

deep wolf
#

HAHAHAHA

digital cloud
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the THROW

raw ermine
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BRUH

deep wolf
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19-5 SIDESHOW WINS

raw ermine
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#YAKITHROW

tropic herald
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WHAT

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Aahhhhhhh

raw ermine
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WHAT

digital cloud
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scripted

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for real though

short sparrow
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xD

silk tiger
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the BM from yaki running around on the ground and then ult

raw ermine
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maybe this is yaki announcing his retirement

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@digital cloud you heard him, you're clinically insane

blissful wadi
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That’s not scripted that’s just bm

silk frost
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sideshow to the mayhem