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SO CLEAN
ANS OMG
RIP
LETS GO BOYS
how did rascal not die
5 MINUTES INTO THIRD
Viol2t bagged Kris

damn
Now imagine this roster with Twilight on Zen instead of Moth lol
LMFAOOO
GET OUT OF THIS MANS HOUSE BQB
MONSTER
Ans
Disgusting
this guy fucks
The fuck
hes just playing behind shield on widow
i almost screamed
haha
ans plays behind shield when looking for bqb
nice
Double Widow plz
Sound strange to say, but Moth is probably the weakest part of the SF at the moment
on Zen
CLEAN
Bad manners
Bad manners
Bad manners
neither lmao
oh haha
nothing is clean about 57 seconds
Imagine playing widow and the enemy echo copies you and domes you
F
Finishing with time is good, but Florida did ok on Point c to reduce it from 5 mins

COME ON FLORIDA
DONT MAKE THIS A 3-1
@tropic herald lol

If BQB can pick Rascal pretty quick on this map, they could snowball
i wonder who has the gold medals
F
Moth 16% on ult
so, why are there no hero bans?
i have no idea
To make tournaments more fair I think. Grand finals is no hero bans too
Bans are zzzzzzzz
big hitbox
Moth still doesn't have ult, it's really bad having him on Zen. Can see why they thought they needed Twilight
YEP CLOCK
Florida's ability to just collapse on people is insane
LETS GO
BQB
BQB
BQB is angers
They need to get Moth off Zen
MAYHEM FIGHTING

Moth can't play lucio

Nooo

BQB went brrrrrr




He must be doing so little/no damage to be getting ult that slow

Can't really spawn hold with the widow, sightlines are too tight
and they would have got them into overtime
Let's go
YAKI
just dont have bqb run widow until they lose the first fight
I think Mayhem might take this
winnable
Then you're behind on ults and risk the snowball
Gangnamjin is a fuckin nut
this is very winnable for mayhem

they shud def win this
Winnable as long bqb gets picks or yaki
Gangnamjin is doing so much damage, Rascal can't be anywhere near as offensive as Yaki can
then its 2-2
Shock need to not lose anyone on this map to win really. 1 pick and they've likely lost
SHLURPS
shocks won this fight
FLORIDA COME ON
Rascal flank
Mayhem should get Trans, Shock may struggle
Nutty
Rally and trans should be a fight win

winnable winnable
shock shud win this
Choi died so late
eh
they have 2 support ults
COME FLORIDA LETS GOOO
they got trans
If they can get a 6v6 fight, SF should in theory win
mAD lads
OH MY

yes
What a match
OH NOEY

CLIP IT
DAMN
YEEEESSSSSSSSSSS
WHAT???

unfortunate
Please get Moth off Zen, please
RLLY
GETS MOTHS FACE

SMURF OH NO
Smurf be like hello
NO CONTEST?????
Okay
Put him on Moira or something he'd actually do something
Shock fans why so quiet? 
??????
Shock will win 4-2

Bitch I'm talking @karmic grotto
Second time Shock have done it in a major match.

NO THEY WONT :))))
we aint quiet
Back to control with SF's pick
yea

They dominated control map 1
"fortifies and waits to die"
I think it’s hybrid now
Super coming back?
it do be like that
Not Control
Can't chose same map twice
Is it not control? hmm ok
Choose*
shock gonna bring in striker
I like how as soon as viol2t uses window fate and gargoyle just press w
these teams need to win the opossing map choice to get an advantage
Bring in Striker, put Rascal on Bap and Viol2t on Zen
that's how i see it
kings row?
def
no lijiang tower
They're the May hem. it's meant to be.
I think if Mayhem wins the next map or if Shock wins the map after then either takes the series
You need rascal on the echo
Lijang?
lijiang
Lijiang
Why?
Theoretically, shock takes lijiang
This is a bit absurd to say the least
Def bringing back super for this
You dont need Rascal on the Echo, he's played torb most the game
Shock takes next map
Basically if either team wins two in a row they take the series
They on purpose didn't choose busan
they bring back super
shock dominate kings row though
Lets Moth play lucio and shock's rush comp >>>> Florida's
how did smurf find himself in spot where he can be exploded so bad
cum breaded chicken
cum chickened bread
haha
But Moth should have trans'ed onto point or something
did they have lamp
it was like 96 trans right?
Ah, back to the Moth being a bad zen then
moth on lucio and it's over for florida cause shock's rush is opped
God
imagine being called boston
Imagine if Shock had Twilight available for junkertown
oof
I honestly think you could put Striker in on tracer, put Rascal on Bap, and Viol2t on Zen...
CHARLIE NINER LMAO
the youtube chat...
After control map
I think moth is a good shotcaller and helps lead the shock, so taking him out wouldn't be the best
^
U need Moth in
@rugged yacht I turned that shit off lmao
whats going on over at youtube
Moth keeps the team cool
C9 C9 C9C9C9C9C9C9CC9C9C9C9
super is going in i think

zen was too late lol
Put him on something other than Zen then
moth was a second late
they need moira

Super is back
we could be good then
Super again ? ugh
What is map 6 going to be, type wise. Anyone track the SHD match?
Yaki doom?
Hmm, Kings Row then?
i bet kings row will be next
ans plays sym or is this just a quick tp
depends on who wins this
SUPER
Whats the other choice in the map pool

LETS GOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
not a nice welcome for super
Super is going to get boomed by Gargoyle on rein

get rolled lol
super just 2 aggresive
Nooooo
ya all ever jerk off to overwatch porn
this is awful

haha yeh
Rip
shock wack
Choi
SF can't cope with this aggression. They are too used to being the aggresive team
L
@smoky geode what side are you on ffs? You switch to the winning team ?
...
Moth
SHOCK ARE BOOMED
WTF IS THIS?
WTF
Rascal seems boomed this game, he's not doing much at all

Mayhem Stonks going ALL THE WAY TOT HE TOP
Moth on the Lucio now

shock is wack and getting fucked


no i like multiple teams @pale roost
Fate isn’t even on Rein lmao. It’s gargoyle
damn we got this next one tho
Easy
yoo im getting a mayhem skin
Dallas didn't lose for this
if they win
Uh oh
Kris
Shock actually look boomed
Boy
Choi and Rascal are having really bad games
moth is supposed to do that

jeeeezzzz
LETS GOOOOO
Holy cow
This isn't the shock I'm used to watching
Guys
Shock are boomed
This is all just part of the script
MTD

Shock lose the first playoff finals
Then come back with an anger
And win the second one
Heh still an entire game or two even if shock lose this
absolutely fried there
People get too excited too early on both sides
this is where they spam ults
Super
BRUUUUH
BQB
omg super
Fucking bastard
told ya
FATE
ANS has been booped like 3x
Rascal sleeps with the holographic fishes
MTD 
Poor Super actually looks like the best player on Shock here
TG they touched the point
sf shock got this trust
ITS THE ANIME 99% flip
they got blizzard too
almost missed blizzard lol
lol violet

LETS GOOOOOOOOOOOO
yaki is the only thing to watch out for
LOL WTF
ok
AHHGHH
Super's dick is huge
that was a miss
Not as big as his forehead
omg how they do that
This guy sex
I knew that
MTD
okok
BQB
Is control centre the last stage?
COME ON
lmfao that shatter
YESSSSSSSSSSSS
We had control centre
holy fuck
@forest raven It's to 4
LETS GOOOO
that was some pressure lol
I'm barely breathing y'all
Good series
LETS GOOO
fuck super ffs i hate him lol
This is insane
goodness gracious wth super
super had the hero shatters
Let's goooo
this point!
Insane
We still in this
Super has got to stop taking those risks man
super is on pure instinct rn
cashew delisi
how the heck did shock win that point
Super clutched that map
by the way, is it best of 4?
first to 4
alright
Best of 7, first to 4
thx
he did but if that was a miss theyd be screwed
SUPER WITH THE BM
Viol2t
SUPER
oop
fate keeps getting walled off
bap is getting nerfed 100%
What are the hybrid choices left in the map pool, Kings Row and?
Hollywood
you'd have to pick hollywood as Florida I guess if they lose this

this sure is entertaining
SUIPERERERR
THE CHOKE!
bap can't b nerfed when OWL maxed out his potential @nocturne plinth
cos he's such a troll sometimes I forget how clutch super can be

Aye 4-2 shock
hahahah
Again?
NOOOOOO
someone gonna c9
AHAHAHAHAHAHA
jesus what is going on
AHHHHHH
What a fucking throw
AHAHAHAHAHAHA
The C9 Melee
CHARLIE NINER
Hybrid is left and shock has looked solid on it
LETS GO
so...B9?
By Florida
AHAHAHAHAHHHHHAHAHAH
Pog
AGAIN
since it was Bob's fault
I REPEAT CHARLIE NINER
Shock with the knife twist
MTD
Florida really out here throwing
BQB
These teams are wired af
florida y
WHY DID THESE TEAMS BECOME THEIR 2019 SELVES AGAIN
bob missed :c
WE CAME SO FAR
Trying to find out why gargoyle didn't mirror Reinhardt
Hollywood or Kings Row. Do florida take the risk
I think nerves are getting to both teams, but to florida more than shock
wait it isnt over ?
they're morons if they choose kings over hollywood
First to 4
Its first to 4
Is first to 4
^^^
@weak bolt they smooth brain and go Kings WATCH
florida map again
Yaki tracer time bitches
COME ON FLORIDA
Super with the big brain moves
Super has a fivehead
SHOCK THE WORLD
if this is gonna keep going on where they win their own maps shocks gets to 4 first with their picks
Tell you what though, the 2 Finals of this tournament have been pretty epic
SHD vs Dynasty was a great match, and this one is great
shock will take the next map and all things will be set back in order in OWL
You do have to wonder if Florida are going to be tired, this'll be their 10th map with only minor breaks
Probably
Finals should have been held tomorrow
OW is taxing on the brain
those guys probably do it for fun they are mad man
Florida should be proud
SHOCK MY ASS
SHOCK THE ELECTRODES HOOKED UP TO MY NIPS
I think shock have been playing good enough that they'd have beaten Philly by now in all honesty
Florida even if they lose should 100% be proud

shock should face SHD sometime to determine the number one spot
From last place to making a game vs shock
Honestly Shanghai would probably smack them
just got my first 5 tokens, despite watching for the last 3 days
Hard to tell tbh
hero pools make everything wack
10/10 system
it would be a good match their play styles are interesting
Depends on the metas, Asian meta is different, lot more Sombra
That sombra comp I don’t think shock can counter
New top is sfs, SHD, fm, NYXL and SD
LIP is a god at sombra
nyxl got smashed
NXYL don't look a top team
Fusion vs NXYL would be a really interesting matchup
We're not in "Big boss" Pine NYXL anymore
I think if dragons and shock played rn dragons would win
How come Mayhem don’t run fate on Rein? Surely Gargoyle can run orisa?
I'm surprised Soule actually gave them a challenge
His orisa might be way weaker than his rein
shanghai?
Seoul gave dragons a challenge, then dragons put Lip and Fearless back in and they reverse swept
ye
What are asia grand finals?
Seoul seemed to have massively improved, but they could easily go back to losing 0-3 next week
dragons just said "nope"
Shanghai seoul?
Ye
ye they were seoul vs dragons
Seoul was looking clean
SHD beat Seoul 4-3, in a full reverse sweep
TrACER next
A reverse sweep in a fucking first to 4
Ans will get smoked
bring in mr striker
Bring ze striker
Do we even know how good Striker still is?
seoul and florida both were suprising
He missing
Erster also missing
I need more of these tournaments
tbh
Injected directly into my veins
Good news Draw!
Erster been missing since they played titans
Yea facts @forest raven

i really wanted a fusion eternal final 😭
The Baseketball team are on it!

I wanted to see philly vs shock
Think it would expose a lot about philly, but mayhem did that
If shock beat Mayhem, then I think it says a bit about Fusion, but if Mayhem win? Maybe it just says more about Mayhem
so its hollywood
If mayhem win hollywood, it's another control map
no its escort
TBH this is a bit weird seeing SFS v FLM when we were all expecting a close match between SFS and PHI
Hollywood. GG
This has been very entertaining to watch so far
well if we are going by the earlier game
Map 7 les go
Woot, holllyywoooooo
so what if they tie this map?
i mean
They go Agane
A G A N E
map 7 between shd and seoul was junkertown i think
yeah it was
BIG DICK YAKI won’t let a tie happen
cute
So would take us to Gibraltar I think?
imagine the crowd
indeed
Is there a 3rd Hybrid map in the pool?
Hybrid?
Kings
Escort even
Numbani?
So, does anyone really, genuinely, give a shit about legend of Solgard?
Eichenwalde
I'm getting a job so when we go back to stadiums i'll be at every1
Numbani yeah
Where the fuck is eichenwalde
What I mean, is if Shock lose this, do they actually get to pick a map, or is it guaranteed to be Gibraltar
Screenshot pls
It’s just the one with the clothing with Jjonak,babybay,Space
You never seen it?
No
Imagine advertising 500MBPS as "speed demon" in 2020
yes you have
they neever did eichenwalde
not that it matters anymore Sinatraa's gone
in America thats lightning fasr
@karmic grotto it’s this one
oh the last escort map
in america yes, not in europe tho
is rialoto
-.-
and in Korea it's laughable
no super
In the dugout:
Kuki: Hey. All of you. Listen to me.
Even if we lose this match overall, I'm satisfied. This is our first Best-of-7 match ever. This is our first FINALS ever! So this is good experience for us, especially because matches give you 10x the experience scrims do....
(cont.) So just comm a little more, and push just a little harder.
Even if we lose, I'll be happy.
Gargoyle: I'M not satisfied, if we've made it all this way I want to f*cking win!
Kuki: Our mental fortitude hasn't crumbled+we know we're the better team. Now let's go get t...
fate has died
LETS GO FLORIDAAAAAAA
is there something that determines who attacks first?
shock has been attacking first every non control map
The other team
it's whoever doesn't pick the map
Winning team picks if they want to attack or defend I think
o so shock wants to attack first
oh yeah
Attackin first is generally favored
Not the Rascal torb again please
Florida looking for that
ollywood defense
How the fuck you stick those bombs
Don’t ask Carpe
woah how did that happen
Put rascal on echo
0% stick rate
LETS GO
Why was moth there
ㅇ
Wow florida still win that
good wasting that bob
Rascal torb, please swap 😦
BIG CHOI
that was hugeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
nice
OH MY GAWD
torb potg
Rascal switch
this is big for florida
Viol2t????
violet plz calm down
What a god
GangnamJin scared LUL
viol2t goin dps
yaki loves this map
Viol2t the dps
OMG HE'S A MONSTER
what is heals
Violet chill
Someone needs to stop this yaki
COME ON YAKI
Yaki's died once
COME ON FLORIDA
What the hell man
yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaki popppin off
SHOCK
only 2 fights

ANS has arrived

Can't beat the shock in a deathball
The time is pretty low though
Torb op
less than 1 min
That was almost a fat c9
Torb the carry
ORANGE PUDDINGGGGGGGGGG
THE COOMIES

MOLTEN COOOOOOM
😩
Moth on Brig able to do so much more now
Does this cement Florida in the top 5?
Absolutely
I'd say so, definitely top 3 NA
Win or lose
This florida team is cracked
Guess it depends how well NXYL and Dynasty would compare against NA teams
This got me thinking
Homestands or whatever are such a bad idea
Players constantly travelling must take a toll on their performance
rascal hard hard picked
Fate's pull was huge
Homestands is all about giving the teams some cash returns for investment
its still a 5v5?
wtf how is shock doing this
Everyone in OWL is bleeding money
wtf was that fight lol
yea homestands will never go away. theres money to be made
MTD

it was idle forever

damn the players. all about money
4 homestands a year will barely pay the bills.
This is absolutely rediculous
The flux!
As logn as Choi or Viol2t is alive
Florida have the ults
theres a chance to win
Looking good shock
Dallas needs to take notes
and moth as lucio
Florida should win this
finally
LETS GOOO
Noooo

what were they charging? $30, $40 for a homestand ticket? With most venues having low capacities - I think the new Philly venue has what, 3500?
point B mayhem come alive
couldnt get the full cap we got the long run for now
I think that’d still make em some money
yeah this is about glory
Ooh yes
Rascal tracer is something i would not htink to see
My concern is about the players though
should’ve kept them all at least in the same country
Teams built big rosters in prep for travel, like having 12 players to rotate
yeah - but also the London homestand was at a hired venue.
good good
shock shud win this
i thought since they were cornerd theyd be screwed
It's over
Let's goooo
Florida have one fight

shock has ult advantage
@weak bolt Also, while there were expensive/VIP tickets, the bulk of them were basic GBP55 tickets.
gg
this might be it
LETS GO BOYS

yaki is gonna somehow do something big
The expensive vip tickets were 200+ each
LETS GO
Yep 4-2 ggs
throw bob
Gg
GET OUT OF THIS HOUSE FLORIDA
Gg

gg bois
GET OUT
or notGG

THIS LEAGUE BELONGS TO THE SHOCK

I BELIEVED

lmfao violet spam
GG
Shock definetly boomed 
gg
Yooo
Philly fans still malding
Kris looks gutted
Mayhem will come back stronger
Great match
LETS FUCKIN GO
Viol2t is the best player on shock
true
ggs
smurf really just illustrates it all
They should do a SHD vs Shock for true champion whenever they feasibly can
bqb kris and yaki man
Violet ip
What a great match tho
before season end
yeah
gg
Lucky bastards
Shanghai and SFS
SF still looked Vunerable, they're going to need to add more depth I think
not suprising

Shock Better make sure Viol2t gets paid the most
damn good match
Man is the best player on the team
mayhem proved themselves today
Hmmm so 2-6pm
THE SHOCK HAVE BEEN IN FIVE CONSECUTIVE GRAND FINALS AND THEY'VE WON THE PAST FOUR
Dude is fucking insane
Mayhem proved they deserved that #2
past 4 seems wrong
And then you're going to play ranked and its a shit show
SHD won stage 3
They've won 4 in total though so I'll give you that 😄
Shock still good
Wait, 3
But they aren’t immortal
Lijiang was the turning point
I honestly think ans would get exposed by LIP
Shock never gonna do what they did last season
Old titans would have given them a run
If they played
Ay they are pretty hard to crack though
But they're still numba wan
so close for mayhem but the shock turn it around somehow
Shanghai better
I'd say Shock could use another top tier flex dps
Ye
Very fun match to watch ggs
Ez titans vs Shock rematch :(
Looks like shd is the only team that realistically could beat shock, but even then we don't have good grounds to compare the two
Does shock even have another flex tank?
no
No
yes
Don’t need one
Rascal
Give choi a break
Choi op
Choi is op
Not sure you need one with Choi able to play Dva, Orisa and Sigma
But the man is human
in this meta they dont need one
What the fuck
but yea bap/zen is arguably their weakest support line without twilight in
Damn 14k heals per 10 min
Nerf lamp
2019/S1: VAN d SFS 4-3
2019/S2: SFS d VAN 4-3
2019/S3 SHD d SFS 4-3
2019/S4 had no finals.
Bs ability
Probably at least 10-15 were pulse bomb saves
Now gimme shock vs shd
great match tho
I wanna see that
fucking shit
It's already on a 25 second cooldown lol
Viol2t is insane. The only Support that consistently outplayed GGJ
So is there OWL this upcomign weekend? or is it a break week
Power rankings-> Shanghai, Shock, Mayhem, Philly, Seoul, Guangzhou, LA
Don’t care about the rest
Technically owl can do games, but it will be high ping
Viol2t lowkey the best player in OWL
So....
@tropic herald which LA?
I'd imagine it'll be normal games next week, perhaps giving SF/Florida/SHD/Dynasty a week off?
The good one
is the grand finals gonna be without hero pools?
i dont think LA shud be there. At least over NYXL
I forgot NY existed
LAXL I see
I want a Shock/Shanghai grand final goddamnit
no hero pools for grand finals
Chokecelsior
NY flop in the tournament
whats new
They played stupid fucking comps
Just straight up worse
SHD > SF > Mayhem > Dynasty (Maybe?) > Fusion > Charge > NXYL
A choke is losing a game they of could of won
And they don’t have a good hitscan to play Ashe/widow
that charge match
SHD v SEO was pretty incredible to watch
Dynasty is a team I don’t want to put high
Just outplayed
o nero played?
Why not put dynasty high?
They got lucky that Orisa is the pick this week
yeah he jebaited social media
Their dive was bait
dyansty does really poorly if the hero pool doesnt suit them
A choke would be Lijang point 2 by mayhem against Shock
Shit
Dynasty looked pretty good today honestly, and that was without just playing double shield
Dynasty still relies on comps
lol. SFS - W: 11. L: 2. MP: 10.
dynasty without hero pools is good
They looked good without double shield
Their Rush/Dive was certainly far better. Their biggest issue is no Echo player
Watching Seoul play Dive into Shanghai was hilariously bad
Not gonna cap I hope double shields gets deleted
They need to look to balance the MP soon.
Even though we had double shields on this match
Actual trash
It’d be cool if the league had relegation
insane top 10
@sullen berry show this to someone from season 1
SUPER
its the 5 head
That table also cuts off the matches played. Fusion have played more than the rest
that's exactly what i was thinking
The god coach https://i.imgur.com/4DeIZ7Z.png
How come Philly still has #1??
The table uses Win %
From season games @tropic herald
Until they play SHD KEKW
phily get 1 win
I'll never forgive Huk/Kraft for driving Crusty away
And then lip exposes Ans
Now hot take ANS > Sinatraa
Fusion have 13 games, where as SF have only played 10
Yeah. The table doesn't present the data as the rulebook stipulates rankings are done.
Striker>Both
Fleta is meta
ANS on widow or Ashe > striker
fleta deadlifta
The rulebook states it's based on match wins then has a whole heap of other criteria, but the standings table on the website has always displayed it based on win percentage, which isn't what the rulebook uses.

I think Ans on widow is better than every other widow in the league with the support and tank line he has supporting him
ANS best widow 🙂
Well said, with good tanks and support
Dude's already a fucking nut but having people like Choi and Viol2t behind him
BQB was pretty good match for ANS, but it was close
Good lord
Any widow will look good with good tanks and supports like shock
the great thing with ANS is that he doesnt need to hard carry
HUGE PENIS https://i.imgur.com/rDKpHao.png
mayhem should be really happy. They can definitely beat shock
SF kind of demonstrated how good they are as a team. If you think how little Rascal did in that match overall.
watchpoint is gonna be hilarious with custa/reinforce reacting to this c9fest
Viol2t was the one who stood out the most
Custa went off about it during the map 5 break haha
ight im gonna go play some animal crossing and overwatch
Viol2t put on a clinic
cue 'wtf was that?!'
no wonder moth was forced on zen
cashew delisi
Viol2t fucked the entire series
Best player on Shock by a good margin this match
Super fucked on both koth maps
Viol2t is like a 3rd dps, and if you through in Twilight, it could be scary
Super went full Super mode
Choi fucked on hollywood
Imagine having Viol2t and Twilight as the supports against you
Hell Viol2t is probably the best player in OWL. Dude outclassed GGJ the whole series which is absurd
Top 3 support line
Viol2t/Twilight on Junkertown 
Izayaki and LeeJaeGon are the best
along with Alarm/FA and Iza/LJG
Moth zen wasnt cutting it at all and it led to map loss in junker because of it
didnt build trans fast enough
Imagine being Valiant, letting go of izayaki
and was always behind ggj on ult charge
yeah Moths Zen is weak, his brig is ok
I'm convinced LJG isn't actually human
But Twlight should cover that, and allow them to use ana too
I just want NA tank players off Orisa dude
Stan LeeJaeGon
To each their own
Fuck that trashcan hero
that cod add is sooooo 'wtf?!'
Boring as hell to watch
However holy shit i thought Lijiang was over for shock and somehow they cluch it out???
Super carried Lijjang
for sure
LJG lucio vs Moth lucio 
@echo quest I learned something massively new with Zarya over the last day or two and holy shit my gameplay with her has just gone through the roof.




