Viol2t can get 2 or 3 kills in a fight as Bap
#esports-discussion
weak bolt
karmic grotto
afwul hero
silk frost
nobody could keep up with that preformance
karmic grotto
just winning games by just existing
true hound
i dont blame him widow is an unfun hero
silk frost
yeah sorry they grinded for thousands of hours, how DARE they play well!!
true hound
"FUN AND BALANCED"
karmic grotto
But why didn't Decay go Widow?
silk frost
Widow is impossible to balance, if people can grind aim then she'll always be good
weak bolt
Defensive widow in KR isn't great
true hound
no they gotta change her so shes easier to dive
weak bolt
They didn't get fights where the sight lines would be good for decay
true hound
and can't one tap you from 437234324828423 miles away
silk frost
do you want them to remove her legs or remove grapple?
tropic herald
ANS back on widow
silk frost
it's already pretty bad
idle ore
what does the number next to the hero-class mean for the OWL team roster stats
tropic herald
Make grapple break if she takes 50+
true hound
you really think she wouldnt grapple back to her team
there she can just get healed up, wait for the cd, and go back
silk frost
the problem isn't widow
true hound
the cd doesnt matter because its literally always up by the time you get to her
silk frost
it's the lack of viable counterplay
true hound
yeah because widow is cancer
silk frost
Empathy's idea was actually good
silk frost
yeah grinding a hero for 2000 hours is cancer
weak bolt
Widows design just doesn't fit OW well much any more
silk frost
well let's be honest
true hound
just because a hero is "hard" and requires "grinding" doesnt mean they can be the ass cancer widow is as of right now
silk frost
roadhog, soldier, widow, mccree, everyone doesn't fit modern overwatch except like 5 heroes
idle ore
anyone notice doha just going idle? on nepal and on king, i know it was Doha waiting but i mean
weak bolt
He's keeping out of sight, not moving due to footsteps etc.
silk frost
they're fine in balance
idle ore
true
true hound
probably going for flanks
silk frost
but they don't really fit for modern overwatch
true hound
how so
silk frost
they're so simple
silk frost
hog can shoot a shotgun, he can move you, and he can breathe
weak bolt
Soldier is a bit dated now, Hog/mcree have their own bits
true hound
i could reduce any character down to that
tracer can blink and recall, and has high burst
boom
tropic herald
Crimzo just threw
clear crane
Weird trans
silk frost
Sigma throws stuns, mini CCs at you, a ranged shield skillshot, a healing DM, and he can take out half your health
roadhog shoot and move
silk frost
it isn't
weak bolt
High ping and little scrim time I guess
true hound
they'll probably want him for ana zen comps
silk frost
I'm just saying heroes are outdated, doesn't mean they're bad, weak, or poorly designed. Zen and solder ARE way simpler than Overwatch has become now, but they're good designs
tropic herald
Uber rap god
silk frost
the zen was for discord 2 and trans
ebon aurora
pretty solid counterpush
balmy wolf
dallas going hard
silk frost
having 2 discords is busted
true hound
smh why do people always spam c9 in chat
weak bolt
Because if a team loses a point it's a C9 according to YT chat
silk frost
btw the Zen buff came through he's got the 30% discord here
outer zenith
YouTube chat? What's that??
weak bolt
Not close
true hound
fuel rolled
real gyro
its bronze chat
true hound
?
weak bolt
Shock kinda threw 1 stage, and then didn't do much 2nd stage
tropic herald
Not almost got one tapped there
true hound
super superbenched
silk frost
they're playing around Decay's LOS really well here
true hound
yep
weak bolt
Yeah Shock will deal with a Widow far better than Houston
tropic herald
Lowkey expected ANS to swap to widow there
karmic grotto
1-1
silk frost
yeah Houston just kinda walked into an open area without trying to protec
karmic grotto
let's goooooooooo
tropic herald
If Dallas win this fight I’ll be surprised
idle ore
i cant wait for fm VS ar
weak bolt
Shock will give them 2 ticks if they are sensible
true hound
smart by the Shock though
silk frost
ANS widow worked because he was unpredictable and popped off because of it, even as a mechanically worse team
true hound
they completely denied LOS for Decay
silk frost
player not team
tropic herald
Easy for Shock
true hound
yep
silk frost
Decay played in predictable places and Shock could ez punish
true hound
they just hid in that room as the Tanks poked
moth and viol2t completely safe
and ANS had the annoying crossfire
true hound
the only way they would get picked off was through that small widow
silk frost
WiDoW bRoKeN
tropic herald
Shock respects widow
tropic herald
Dallas doesn’t
silk frost
^^^
if a widow claps you, it's your fault.
You're the one out of position and they are capitalizing
outer zenith
At high level play? Sure.
weak bolt
Yeah doom doesn't sit 200m away from you
true hound
And thats the annoying part, Widow makes you play the game much differently
has more of an effect than any other character, arguably
silk frost
so you don't go TO the widow, you HIDE fro mher
true hound
thats the annoying part?
tell me what is balanced about getting sniped from 200m away
by a character disconnected from the fight
which is hard to dive
silk frost
you shouldn't be there
tropic herald
SHOCK
real gyro
??
karmic grotto
?????
inland pawn
KEKW
silk frost
that was fuckin clean
tropic herald
VIOL2T
karmic grotto
big mistake
clear crane
WAT
idle ore
bruh
karmic grotto
big mistake from dallas
tropic herald
Viol2t won that for them
true hound
@silk frost shouldn't be where?
karmic grotto
that's unlooki
raw ermine
Oh my
true hound
fighting?
karmic grotto
pure luck moment
true hound
in a team fight thats fucking annoying
tropic herald
Rascal is gone
weak bolt
Have teams not learnt that Shock + Amp Window = Team wipe?
idle ore
dang
true hound
imagine having to deny LOS from the Widow all while fighting
its not always your fault you get sniped
silk frost
it's the same thing with Doom
outer zenith
UH-OH, SPAHGHETTI-O'S
silk frost
if you don't see him, he can come from anywhere and boom he kills 2
true hound
Doom does not sit in the back 200m away one tapping you
idle ore
lol
true hound
not to mention hes loud as fuck whos vulnerable to cc
fact you have to alter your play entirely just because they have a god damn widow is unfun and stupid
inland pawn
decay and doha are slamming their keyboards trying to carry their team 😂
true hound
one man can only carry so hard
silk frost
if they're sitting 200m away, then they won't have any other positions to reasonably be playing from, so choose a new path that doesn't make you walk right into her LOS
tropic herald
Hanamura isn’t an escort
idle ore
imagine doomfist in the high ground just sniping with his 4 shots and the enemy team hero goes: "sniper.."
next mesa
Yeah fr decay and Doha are top tier
true hound
why is your argument "just dont get shot lul"
true hound
back broken
weak bolt
Hanamura will give Decay a chance to widow if he wants I guess, but I'd expect shock to play super fast comp
true hound
youre telling me the fact that the presence of a Widow, that changes the play of the game so drastically, is fine and balanced
i dont blame Chipsa for getting fucking mad
because she is the opposite of fun and balanced
@weak bolt most likely, Houston couldnt punish Decay yesterday
but the Shock just play perfectly around it
Shock is all good and fuel is 1/3 good
next mesa
Yes
silk frost
she changes the play drastically
looks at sombra
I wonder who else
looks at lucio
pale roost
As i said before, It's the players that make or break these heroes
idle ore
hanamura bruh
silk frost
could possibly do that
tropic herald
Asmr
silk frost
lucio completely changes how the game works
true hound
?
pale roost
you can be a god at every hero if you are a talented player
static shell
Anyone else see that they listed hanamura as a payload map?
silk frost
Without lucio, rein isn't a viable hero.
With lucio, Rein is actually playable
true hound
hmm guys, which one is worse, picks that have synergy, or avoiding gigantic fucking sightlines from a one shot hero who is hard to dive
weak bolt
Widow is a solo carry hero in a team based game. There are very few, if any, heroes that have near 0 reliance on their team
true hound
^
static shell
Hanamura payload hanamura payload
inland pawn
the game can use more solo carry heroes.
true hound
eh
idle ore
hanamura payload what 😂
weak bolt
Solo carry heros = Valorant/CS:GO, Overwatch is a team based game
tropic herald
idle ore
i saw
silk frost
why wouldn't we let GOATs be the meta 100% then
static shell
Oh
weak bolt
It's probably just a production error/typo, it'll be 2CP next
inland pawn
i legit like watching and play GOATs tho
idle ore
dang i cant post a picture
static shell
I want to play goats at least once when I get home
silk frost
it's a team game
idle ore
but yeah it said "escort" for hanamura lol
silk frost
why let DPS exist at all if it's a team game
pale roost
@silk frost he is right tho
weak bolt
DPS should require to position around their tanks, and require support from supports. They shouldn't be able to sit 200m away, nobody near them, and kill whole teams
true hound
^
silk frost
why let solo carry heroes exist if the game is a team game that shouldn't have solo carry preformances
static shell
I don’t like what goats did as in, if you didn’t let main a goats player you couldn’t beat goats
true hound
what was your point
pale roost
scroll up
weak bolt
Plenty of pros (even excluding chipsa) have said Widow is a busted hero
idle ore
just stop the arguing lol "why let dps exist at all if its a team game" its a team game BECAUSE dps support and tank exist
static shell
^^
true hound
you can "solo carry" on any hero if youre marginally better than literally everyone, else, sure
but Widow is isolated
static shell
Every role does something
silk frost
widow is busted at the top levels because her value scales more with skill than any hero
true hound
so?
silk frost
but in lower levels? She's literally the worst hero
idle ore
both of you are insane
true hound
thats why we dont balance around lower levels
idle ore
jeez
silk frost
I'm not saying to balance around lower levels
weak bolt
Widow is a hero that requires Aim, and not much else. Most other heroes (Some exceptions) require Aim & Gamesense to do well on
silk frost
but there's zero way to balance widow to NOT dominate top ranks while also being viable anywhere else
weak bolt
I just think her concept is a bit dated, and if they dropped her in OW2, I wouldn't care
silk frost
without making Ashe
karmic grotto
ChipSa was right
pale roost
Anyways guys, and girls idk ... I'm glad the series is so close despite people trash talking the technically "worst" teams .
silk frost
if you were to balance widow to make it so she couldn't insta kill and wasn't busted at top ranks, you'd have Ashe. That's the only way to do it
silk frost
either they delete her from the game (not happening) or they do this balance dance that can't be done
idle ore
just stop the arguing its so dumb
next mesa
It's not
weak bolt
I'd just give Widow 100hp personally. Make her super risk vs reward
silk frost
fine
weak bolt
Why would you get hit by a firestrike as Widow?
true hound
id do for a 150 hp + a grapple nerf, so shes a lot more susceptible to dives
pale roost
i would like to see a rework for her . the venom mine is a boring ability imo
weak bolt
You're argument earlier was "Just dont get shot lol", but you think a widow gets FS'ed
silk frost
...
next mesa
Won't happen lol
karmic grotto
150 fps seems reasonable
silk frost
it was a frame of reference
karmic grotto
hp*
pale roost
and her ult nerf that if you die you lose it seems pointless to me
karmic grotto
they should try out it
true hound
no if she dies she hsould lose it
its fair
same for literally every ult except Sym i believe
silk frost
I'm not saying that rein would fuckin counter Widow in that world
bob
most ults stay out once you die actually
true hound
hmm
well yes true
but why buff widow
not like she dies when she has infra sightanyways
silk frost
you could do those nerfs but do some buffs for compensation because she'd never be played in that situation
true hound
if you peek or flank her she knows and you die
silk frost
like revert the change on her charge times
true hound
hell no
pale roost
On thing is certain, since the devs are occupied with ow2 we are not gonna see anything as shocking as a reworked hero ...
true hound
the 0.7 shit was tooooo fast
true hound
its not worth a slower charge time
silk frost
1/6th of a second off 1s
silk frost
she'd get 1 shot by Mei
karmic grotto
fucking told you
silk frost
and with projectile spam that's not super unreasonable
karmic grotto
widow is fucking bullshit
true hound
mhm
karmic grotto
chipsa IS RIGHT AND WAS RIGHT
silk frost
he hit cleanup shots
tropic herald
ANS
karmic grotto
^FACTS
silk frost
only 2 people have made Widow work in the playoffs so far
true hound
and?
weak bolt
ANS showing dominance
tropic herald
We’ve watched shit tier teams play
clear crane
lol solo blizzard
true hound
hey hey hey Paris did get fucked though
tropic herald
This is the first match where both teams are decent
silk frost
are you calling shanghai, NYXL, and Paris shit
true hound
houston
tropic herald
I’m saying
true hound
boston (but paris got nae naed on)
tropic herald
No game has been between to good teams
silk frost
Boston is improving and might actually be decent now
tropic herald
This is the first
weak bolt
NXYL lost 2 maps to Chengdu, and Paris 2 to Boston, I'm not rating them top teams
karmic grotto
wtf closer
true hound
@tropic herald bro arent you forgetting t i t a n s v s d e f i a n t ?
the best teams?
silk frost
Chengdu 3-0d shanghai to start the season
Chengdu cannot be counted with who they face off with
weak bolt
That was with hero pools though
tropic herald
Chengdu is Chengdu
tropic herald
They are the streakiest team
silk frost
incorrect
inland pawn
whats up with these extreme take on teams? you look at how consistent a team is and not how they perform in one game
silk frost
a good widow will not be diveable by a doom
karmic grotto
exactly, which means the widow can not put herself on spots where doomfist would be
silk frost
I mean it's chengdu
karmic grotto
tropic herald
If dallas rushes point they could’ve snowballed that
true hound
damn Shock almost clutched that
silk frost
like the Paris losses against Houston and Florida in the past have shown clear weaknesses that I won't take for granted, but Chengdu just do Chengdu things
true hound
Parisis definitely streaky
they couldve snowballed hard if they had the ults
but they dont
tropic herald
The spawn changes don’t prevent snow balls
silk frost
and the Shock losses to Glads and Valiant show they don't have a reliable winston player
weak bolt
They fed the eMP though which wasn;t great
tropic herald
ANS
karmic grotto
xD
next mesa
Yeah but
weak bolt
Why didn't he just hide from the shot...
silk frost
better question
karmic grotto
good question indeed
silk frost
where was Choi with the shield
silk frost
or why was he walking in a straight line
karmic grotto
i blame the tanks
for not putting shield there
classic mistake
that can be avoided
silk frost
holy fucking shit yall are so tilted that someone has a different opinion from you
tropic herald
I cannot wait for widow 1v1 tournament in all stars
clear crane
question is if theres an all stars
tropic herald
I need ANS v Diem
weak bolt
Doubt we'll see an All stars
tropic herald
It’s still scheduled
silk frost
200 PING ALLSTARS
tropic herald
All you have to do is get all stars to play on the same server
silk frost
fielder vs twilight
weak bolt
Just get all the stars into the same region during covid19? Easy
tropic herald
It’s not hard compared to other things
pale roost
yep agree with ya
tropic herald
One. It doesn’t have a set date
pale roost
@silk frost
tropic herald
You can have it happen in October or November
tropic herald
It’s also just meant to be a fun showmatch feel
I doubt they cancel it
Shock just look far better than Dallas with team play
silk frost
that shield was galactic brain
clear crane
the tank difference skill is just way too obvious
weak bolt
Crusty coaching vs Aero coaching 😄
silk frost
you can tell Shock can coach tank players
karmic grotto
can't wait to see shock
tropic herald
How is aero still head coach
silk frost
Dallas cannot
karmic grotto
play paris
tropic herald
Oh
silk frost
that was beautiful
clear crane
Dallas plan: Decay click heads XD
silk frost
not the worst plan
tropic herald
Shock: good teamplay to let ANS have lots of space
tropic herald
Dallas: Decay please carry us
karmic grotto
ans aint shockwave
pale roost
that blizzard is gonna be the key here for dallas
pale roost
they better not waste it
weak bolt
SF are throwing these ults now
karmic grotto
this fight is too good
balmy wolf
shock throwing
silk frost
lemme say thsi now
karmic grotto
they have one chance
silk frost
we have hope that Fuel will hold
karmic grotto
DOMNT FUCKING CHOKE DOHA
silk frost
that means they willfail
pale roost
Dallas looking good yeah 🙂
balmy wolf
btw why is super not playing
tropic herald
Shock should win
karmic grotto
wtf
silk frost
you like how I called that so hard?
karmic grotto
HOW
balmy wolf
makes sense
silk frost
I'm a Houston fan I'm good ad predicting heartbreak
wintry kraken
last second throw by Fuel
tropic herald
Tank difference
pale roost
unlocky
weak bolt
Decay looks mad
karmic grotto
and how did Gamsu tf died?
true hound
mtd
clear crane
Decay deserves better 😦
silk frost
Tank (coach) difference
karmic grotto
Gamsu is to blame here
ember turret
Smurf saved Choji
karmic grotto
dying for no fucking reason
balmy wolf
that was a pretty good shield by Smurf
karmic grotto
i hate that so much, tanks dying for no freaking reason
true hound
I mean we didn’t see it
weak bolt
To be fair ot Gamsu, he's up against a Mei/Brig there, with a Widow taking off angles
true hound
shock may have just burst him in the blink of an eye
silk frost
btw Dallas have said before that none of their coaches are comfortable at coaching tanks
true hound
mtd
tropic herald
It’s tank difference
silk frost
they basically don't have any coaching
karmic grotto
that's an issue
weak bolt
Dallas coaching is one of their biggest issues honestly. Look at their roster choices for past 2 years
karmic grotto
they need coach tanks
silk frost
not an awful coaching staff
clear crane
yet they keep Aero
silk frost
like they're still OWL level
just... low level OWL level
this ad is embarrasing though
weak bolt
With the financial resources Fuel have, they should be doing better
silk frost
absolutely
silk frost
I have a friend who could coach them better
true hound
why does fuel have a shit ton of money
tropic herald
They have good sponsors
pale roost
who is dallas's coach ?
silk frost
because Dallas teams always do
true hound
aero
silk frost
Aero
tropic herald
Aero
silk frost
or should I say
pale roost
i see
ember turret
Aero
silk frost
AER-NO
clear crane
Besides being with FU, I dont think he has done anything in general
true hound
Rip xqc
pale roost
and i thought i knew enough stuff about the owl, you guys are a lot more informed than me xD
silk frost
he saved the fuel in s1s4
tropic herald
Nah
weak bolt
FU team was unreal too, I wonder how much coaching they actually needed
tropic herald
Brig saved Dallas
true hound
wait
clear crane
yea exactly i dont think hes a good coach. the only titles he has under him is stacked FU roster and stacked Team USA roster
true hound
Had effect left by that time
silk frost
not yet
true hound
cause effect helped
silk frost
but he didn't play
true hound
carry man
silk frost
it was Taimou and Seagull in
tropic herald
Brig actually carried fuel
weak bolt
Yeah Brig helped fuel a lot, Mickie picked it up very quick vs other Brigs in S1
true hound
now only carryhook remains
weak bolt
Then by S2 other teams had learnt it and they were awful again
true hound
Of envy
silk frost
shanghai is one of the only teams who still has a member of their original s1 rosters btw
weak bolt
Didn't Fuel go a full 1 year without a win too?
true hound
idk
true hound
Shanghai has fearless right
silk frost
somewhere around there
balmy wolf
yooo what’s ChoiHyoBin doing
tropic herald
Almost a full year
silk frost
yeah but Diya has been in since their first match
balmy wolf
anybody see that
pale roost
I love crimzo's fuel cap
true hound
And I know Outlaws have had Linkzr and Muma forever
weak bolt
Super was S1 Shock, although only came of age by the end
ember turret
@balmy wolf where he messing around with his mouse?
silk frost
yeah
balmy wolf
yes
tropic herald
Super and Sinatraa both have late March birthdays
true hound
o some of nyxl
ember turret
yeah I saw what Choi was doing
real gyro
decay, widow, rialto, hmmmmmmm
silk frost
"decay looked frustrated"
Yeah I fuckin would too
weak bolt
Quite a few of the S1 teams still have players honestly. Fusion have 3 or 4 I think
true hound
decay widow rialto o-o
However
This is shock
Not pepega Houston
my boy LiNkzr tried 😦
balmy wolf
wtf is this fight
ember turret
Did Fusion make it n May Melee?
raw ermine
Yes
woven hill
I still haven't gotten any token
woven hill
yeah
silk frost
I turned it off lemme check to be sure
weak bolt
I'm testing the adblocker theory at the moment, I installed firefox with no add ons for todays games
got 0 from yesterday with Chrome + addblockers
silk frost
yep
it's adblocker
I checked
Crimzo can hit shots
but sucks with positioning
I love this position for Decay
weak bolt
Shock can see where Decay is, and still peak him, wtf
silk frost
cool we're still talking about this
karmic grotto
lmao
silk frost
do you want me to fuckin get on my knees and bow to you? Will that make you feel better?
pale roost
nice
true hound
y u mad
silk frost
because I thought we were done with this shit
karmic grotto
true hound
@karmic grotto stage 1 finals be like
@silk frost ok but they were talking about shock being dumb not widow being broken
silk frost
when was this Shock's map tho
pale roost
forgive and forget
silk frost
what the hell was that doha
ember turret
Idk
silk frost
"Man the environment is so niAHDS;LKGJHALSD"
"this painting looks crookeAAGHFLJADJLFKALJK"
balmy wolf
Anyone know how to watch in 1080p on the app , my phone is 1440p capable
ember turret
"This grass looks coASHDFKJLASHFKLASDHDSA;FJADF"
balmy wolf
i see the games in 720p
silk frost
"Look at this, the soil is clearly suboptimA;LGDH"
I'm at 480 because my internet sucks lol
ember turret
Doha is scared of Ans xD
silk frost
look at 2018 and 2019 he had good coaches and didn't really do that much
look at 2020 and what this retirement home did to him
double drum
ember turret
how is Shock winning this?
clear crane
Better team
balmy wolf
viol2t nearly threw
silk frost
here's my explaination
karmic grotto
dallas
balmy wolf
id dallas loses this 
weak bolt
1 pick at the start of a fight and you've lost 45s on a push, they've had it happen like 2x
silk frost
if they pulled my 9 year old cousin to coach the tanks then this would be winnable
true hound
Rialto can be full held first point because the first point is in a choke
and it’s annoying
And they’re just destroying sight lines for decay
balmy wolf
1 pick
true hound
so they can’t do jack
balmy wolf
trading
balmy wolf
omg
silk frost
C9
clear crane
RIPPPP
karmic grotto
wtf
balmy wolf
forgets piont ffs
real gyro
wow
balmy wolf
AHAT
karmic grotto
fucking dallas
silk frost
CHARLIE NINER
karmic grotto
fucking dallas
true hound
FuelsBadMan LMAOO
karmic grotto
fuck your ass coordination
clear crane
Dallas straight is literally rely on Decay
true hound
F
worn falcon
DALLAS WTF
rotund sail
F
true hound
decays back was broken by the shock
weak bolt
I need a Moth cam reaction to that ending
worn falcon
What the heck happened
clear crane
Can't beat a team that has legit 6 superstars playing at once like that
true hound
2/6 good vs 6/6 good
karmic grotto
for no reason
dreamy cave
thats so tuff
true hound
we know how it goes down
dreamy cave
i just got here
raw ermine
Rip fuel fans I meant
karmic grotto
Also, shock on suicide watch
pale roost
It was close too . GG
karmic grotto
a better team will roll shock
silk frost
let's go dood
balmy wolf
yup
silk frost
not winnable
clear crane
Even with a rookie in ANS, there are already moments where he almost turned the fight around by himself
karmic grotto
dallas nearly beating shock by letting 2 dps carry
ember turret
Doha is like "DIE BITCH DIE!!!!!!!!!!"
weak bolt
Or this could be an eye opener for shock like the S2 finals
silk frost
really choi boi?
latent night
Does anybody know what´s the deal with getting tokens through watching on mobile? I´ve tried watching through the app and the mobile website, both about 2 hours and I have yet to recieve a single token. I have also tried watching on desktop, but it´s for some reason impossible to log in. Can somebody help me, please? I really want to save up for the upcomming Zarya skin...
karmic grotto
Bench Gamsu
silk frost
I almost think Viol2t
weak bolt
Choi clutched several fights
silk frost
bench Gamsu?
outer zenith
So many close games this weekend where the underdog, lower seed, teams have been inches away from victory.
silk frost
for who?
clear crane
Choi is a damn rock
silk frost
Trill?!
karmic grotto
Bench Gamsu
silk frost
choi did do well
clear crane
most likely will always get 9/10 or 10/10 from him
silk frost
but it just didn't feel like an MVP
true hound
All of em did good
tawny dome
do you need to watch the OWL on Youtube or Overwatchleague . com to get the tokens?
weak bolt
Often hard to pick an MVP for shock, they all put in a large effort
karmic grotto
the one who wins the next match, is going to play againt shock tomorrow?
clear crane
and Moth not even playing his usual role
grim bison
i just feel like this is telling more about dallas than shock here
silk frost
poor paris
true hound
Reign vs shock again??
earnest leaf
Well shock is just flat out better
latent night
do you need to watch the OWL on Youtube or Overwatchleague . com to get the tokens?
@tawny dome you need to watch through their website and be logged in
weak bolt
Paris or LAV
clear crane
Fusion vs Shock final
silk frost
paris
ember turret
wait Mayhem 2nd?
velvet hawk
Honestly, I could've given mvp to Decay even then
silk frost
paris will get fed to shock
true hound
Paris are probably boomed after they “won”
silk frost
poor boys
ember turret
I was thinking Fusion would be 2nd
true hound
Eh
tawny dome
@latent night what is the link
weak bolt
Mayhem came 2nd in May's normal matches, so got 2nd seed
tawny dome
I cant find it when I'm looking
clear crane
fusion dropped several maps to toronto and antoher team i think
worn falcon
Valiant is gonna roll SFS
silk frost
bro if Glads don't get boomed after an L from Boston, Paris will be fein
true hound
@clear crane Paris
silk frost
fine
velvet hawk
Decay was better than Ans imo. And Crimzo had a good game. I think Gamsu kinda threw
karmic grotto
valiant has potential to roll
clear crane
oh right it was paris
karmic grotto
KSPs widow is cracked
latent night
@latent night what is the link
@tawny dome https://overwatchleague.com/en-us/news/23431621?blzcmp=app
clear crane
3-2
grim bison
gamsu needed to be better
velvet hawk
@worn falcon If KSP wins the duel
weak bolt
Imo Decay didn't do a lot, ANS was the better widow overall
silk frost
they need tank coaches
velvet hawk
Ksp is kind of nutty
grim bison
i think he shouldve switched
karmic grotto
you can be better widow if your tank are good
true hound
stop decay and you stop the fuel
velvet hawk
True, respect to Rascal and the tanks' positioning in general
velvet hawk
Punk has been ok actually
weak bolt
Gamsu/Note aren't bad tanks, I think the teams biggest issue is bad coaching, and 0 team depth
true hound
brussen omegalul
silk frost
here's a hot take
worn falcon
Choi's sigma is cracked
true hound
Brussen felt like the weak link, now with Punk Boston are looking so much better
weak bolt
Dallas have literally no one on their bench they can sub in as a decent replacement or variety
velvet hawk
Maybe he isn't. From what I've seen, e's nutty but that might be because it wasn't in the widow duel and he would play her against people without range
silk frost
Unkoe maybe?
wintry kraken
sideshow finally used his forehead for something (lol his companion stream) 😄
silk frost
don't yell at my boy
weak bolt
Unkoe barely even plays OW, he's basically a valorant player
true hound
Lets be honest the only person on the bench who would play is harryhook
grim bison
Trill exists but I havent seen him play so i have no idea if hes even on the team anymore
true hound
harryhook is a good sub, the rest are valorant players
velvet hawk
Honestly think Gamsu and Closer were the biggest liabilities
true hound
no
silk frost
at least they don't have players as useless as Diya/Geguri on Dragons
true hound
it’s the entire team except decay
weak bolt
Considering how much money Fuel put into a roster, they should have more depth
true hound
They rely on him too much
velvet hawk
Maybe NotE wasn't protecting him well enough
true hound
decay?
velvet hawk
Gamsu
true hound
Oh
clear crane
Fuel's have a lot of dead contracts on the books haha
silk frost
possibly
velvet hawk
Cos Gamsu died first a lot
true hound
muma vibes
silk frost
but gamsu positioning was poop and he was always taking dmage
clear crane
Even if they release akm and unkoe they still will count against the salary cap
weak bolt
Gamsu/Note didn't play that bad really. Just the overall team is reliant on their DPS, and vs a Top team, that doesnt work
clear crane
Who knows how much room they have left
echo quest
Zachareee,Unkoe,Akm all yoinking that salary cap
velvet hawk
On King's Row what the shcok did with 4 people was just one of those things that separates them from teams like Dallas
silk frost
they release aKm, uNKOE, Zach, Trill
weak bolt
Akm, Unkoe, Trill, Zacharee. All Valorant players for Dallas Fuel lol
true hound
carryhook remains
echo quest
Trill at least plays overwatch tho
weak bolt
Perhaps they're hoping for a valorant Team Envy chance
echo quest
I haven’t seen Zacharee,akm or Unkoe on ladder in a while
clear crane
Decay's salary if brought over from Glads prob takes a crazy portion of the cap
silk frost
what if Fuel pick up Fissure
silk frost
oh god he'll be ruined
true hound
xqc is god
velvet hawk
Fuel should get Tizi
pale roost
except xqc is porbly never going to come back into the league after the drama
silk frost
literally all he does is watch videos and scream at them lol
weak bolt
I don't think Fuel need drastic changes, but some variety on their roster would help and provide some team competition
true hound
Fuel should get bumper xd
echo quest
Xqc doesn’t even play ow no more
silk frost
wait
tropic herald
xQc is a variety streamer
true hound
Yessir
silk frost
why the FUCK do they still have TIKATEE?!
grim bison
hes a mediashare streamer now lmao
pale roost
he said it himself that owl is not something for him anymore
weak bolt
There is literally nothing to push the current starting 6 to improve, nobody coming for their spots
velvet hawk
Oh wait Tizi is doing military service
true hound
Ik it was a joke
true hound
He will play in the OWWC if we have one this year, I’m guessing
tropic herald
Dallas need a tank coach
echo quest
Probably not
tropic herald
Gamsu and Note are promising but coaching is not great
echo quest
If he does that’s a yikes
clear crane
blizzard prob trying to bury owwc forever
silk frost
get a tank coach
clear crane
haha
velvet hawk
Imagine Bumper as a Tank Coach : "Press W and Left click"
echo quest
Like a real yikes if Xqc is tank again
echo quest
Cuz the dude doesn’t give a shit about the game
true hound
O yeah he just autopilots and vibes
weak bolt
owwc isn't gonna happen, Blizzcon will be cancelled and doing it online sounds like a nightmare lol
true hound
ye true
echo quest
Actually sad how he is easily still the best MT Canada has
silk frost
did the vid get boomed for yall
echo quest
Gaming golem
velvet hawk
yeh
true hound
he doesn’t play as much anymore so it’s natural his skill has dropped
latent night
Hello. Does anybody know what´s the deal with getting tokens through watching on mobile? I´ve tried watching through the app and the mobile website, both about 2 hours and I have yet to recieve a single token. I have also tried watching on desktop, but it´s for some reason impossible to log in. Can somebody help me, please? I really want to save up for the upcomming Zarya skin...
true hound
but idc I’ll watch xqc do anything
echo quest
Fax
silk frost
add blocker?
clear crane
ill watch xqc in the WC lol
echo quest
Reacting Andy
silk frost
are you logged in
true hound
stupid game Andy
velvet hawk
ANyone think Florida will win?
clear crane
if not xqc, i guess it would be shredlock
true hound
ew
silk frost
oh yeah Shredlock is REALLY good
velvet hawk
I doi
weak bolt
Are you watching through the OWL App, and not the YT app?
echo quest
Erster is not playing
true hound
why take anyone over our god xqc
velvet hawk
Yaki is phat
echo quest
Team canada is hot ass tbh
silk frost
Shredlock > xQc
balmy wolf
FM doing pretty good this season
velvet hawk
Uh huh. Although have Florida played any good teams?
silk frost
can we talk about how weird it is that bQb came in and has been clapping everyone?
velvet hawk
I havn't kept track of them
clear crane
Team Canada was so good for 2 years in a row
velvet hawk
Fair enough. What Paris was it
weak bolt
I'm stilling not getting any tokens here, watching on a fresh browser, no add blocks. Wonder if there is another issue
silk frost
I blame the hero pool with that
velvet hawk
ah ok
echo quest
Dw reign ain’t a good team
karmic grotto
Does app work?
echo quest
It’s all good
karmic grotto
I can't see YouTube on app
tropic herald
@echo quest double shield meta tho
true hound
Florida does seem overhyped though
true hound
they won games against pepega teams
echo quest
That’s true
velvet hawk
It should say "Live" and a play button next to a game on the schedule
silk frost
Florida 3-2 here
velvet hawk
Who do people think should be Rookie of the Year? Lip?
pale roost
we
silk frost
Alarm
true hound
hmm
velvet hawk
Controversial opinion and biased but Crong?
clear crane
Alarm or LJG
silk frost
crong's a good shout
echo quest
Alarm,hanbin,Lip,Yaki all gosu
tropic herald
LIP, Alarm, ANS
silk frost
but Alarm is CLEAN as fuck
pale roost
we will see . I genuinely want at least an offset
tropic herald
Hanbin
weak bolt
Alarm, ANS, Lip, Yaki, Hanbin but plenty of time for others to step up
echo quest
Xzi too until his injury
tropic herald
FunnyAstro
velvet hawk
Xzi was Mvp conetdner at one point
true hound
Rookie idk
silk frost
if Alarm isn't MVP or rookie I'll be mad
velvet hawk
FunnyAstro is a rookie? Hasn't he been on reing
weak bolt
Astro played last year so isn't considered a rookie I think
true hound
MVP is probably Carpe
silk frost
astro didn't play last year
true hound
Lowkey
tropic herald
FA can’t get rookie
true hound
He’s so good
velvet hawk
I can't see Alarm as mvp.. maybe rookie but it depends how they do
echo quest
Myunbong needs a better team
silk frost
he was on a team but didn't play
lost jacinth
who won
tropic herald
Shock
weak bolt
Didn't he play a map or 2 for Reign in stage 4/finals?
velvet hawk
If Florida do good Gangnamjin is a possibility
silk frost
wanna know how I'm feeling atm?
balmy wolf
shock ||3-1||
silk frost
I predicted GUXUE would me MVP before the year
clear crane
or Carpe if Fusion is top
tropic herald
FA did play a map for Atlanta
true hound
Houston get kaiser please
velvet hawk
Kodak looks like quarantine has hit him hard
lost jacinth
im playing comp and listening to the game at the same time.. its so confusing
worn falcon
No sayaplayer
velvet hawk
and Gater... well... hard
lost jacinth
sometimes i feel like they're commentating my own game
true hound
they already have muma a feeding MT
worn falcon
balmy wolf
What time is shangai vs NYXL ?
velvet hawk
KRIS MVP
clear crane
6 am EST
silk frost
Colorhex MVP
silk frost
LEGS?!
velvet hawk
Colourhex acc has a good Echo tbf
silk frost
BQB LEGS LET'S GO DUDE
outer zenith
worn falcon
Double shield
balmy wolf
How can you even listen to both i'd not be able to play having muktiple voices talking lol
silk frost
poor bqb
velvet hawk
o.o Tracer Legs?
silk frost
I love tracer legs
velvet hawk
Gangnampog
silk frost
Pognamjin
clear crane
Tracer and Soldier... this reminds me of peak Rogue
worn falcon
Pogman rolled
silk frost
legs with legsbian
weak bolt
The legs is definitely a weird pick
tropic herald
Gay dps duo
velvet hawk
Ight i feel like Babybay is underrated even though he's rated