Won’t happen
#esports-discussion
echo quest
echo quest
Sinatraa will win 2 games with a stack decides games are too long and then solo Qs and goes 50/50
echo quest
Ye
karmic grotto
Dafran holds himself in Valorant rank
echo quest
Dafran shouldn’t be a comparison
echo quest
Dude has like 10k hours on csgo
karmic grotto
Dafran knows why he does thing
and what will happen
He's very vocal in game as well
setting up the match
echo quest
It’s actually crazy how much value he gets
karmic grotto
Knows the character
echo quest
Just by an arrow
karmic grotto
Maybe, slight chance, 1% of him going pro?
echo quest
He gets 11k viewers
He isn’t going pro
Dafran gets more viewers playing Valorant
Than Ow
karmic grotto
But what if he likes to play high competitive games
echo quest
People in his chat yesterday like why the fuck you playing this dogshit game
Go back to valorant
karmic grotto
Chat doesn't have power, but they act like they have
echo quest
So it’s all good
echo quest
Like a few days ago he was talking about his time on selfless right and a lot of his chat had no clue what he was talking about
They were like “ selfless” csgo team?
karmic grotto
??
echo quest
Valorant viewers
balmy wolf
Can road be a shield tank due to his body being B E E F
echo quest
And trill is Qing with Hiko @karmic grotto
crisp willow
echo quest
Who is also valorant
dry karma
Is the Sinatraa skin still dropping? I wanna know when to spend my tokens
karmic grotto
Dallas roster
Yeah
Dallas spots being open
Honestly
Dallas should stop the contracts
Players literally getting money from doing nothing
Playing other games
If you gonna pay them
raw ermine
Unkoe, Harryhook, Zach, AKM
karmic grotto
Let them be content streamer
balmy wolf
karmic grotto
They're all wasting money that could be used for other players
NA players who are owl level, but can't be there because some lazy fucks earning free monie
EU, KR as well
echo quest
@karmic grotto did you see the trill Hiko clip where Hiko asks trill if he likes playing orisa?
echo quest
Ofc
He said no I don’t like playing Orisa and I don’t like playing overwatch
Dallas bench some valorant players
Besides Harry
karmic grotto
Fuck dallas management
echo quest
If anything makes you have more respect for chipsa
karmic grotto
ChipSa actually provides content AND he helps the team as bench player
And he learns alot too
Actually very useful
Other people are only riding money
digital cloud
the "people only riding money" actually deserved to make it to OWL
they may be doing nothing now, but they actually had, and maybe still have, the skill to actually play legitimately
Chipsa does not
tropic herald
You’re telling me AKM can play legitimately still
blissful wadi
Chipsa is an owl level doom and like a tier 3 level gengi
digital cloud
"maybe still have"
blissful wadi
That’s it
digital cloud
that is what I said
karmic grotto
echo quest
ANOTHA TEAM GONE
cloud latch
another one bites the dust
upper niche
There really needs to be a single document/page listing all the departures from OWL/feeders in 2020.
tropic herald
That happened within the season?
Or before as well
I have nothing better to do so I might as well make one lol
upper niche
I think there's value in going back to the period after OWL19 ended, as if I recall a lot of contenders teams started pulling the pin around then.
I would guess the info is all on liquipedia or something
tropic herald
Oh you mean all the teams that left contenders along with retiring players?
upper niche
yeah, something that gives a broader general picture of the health status of the professional/pathway ecosystem
balmy wolf
all the teams started leaving this year with the announcement of the new system of contenders
all the Academys anyway
limpid estuary
There's no hero pool, is that because of the May Melee?
tropic herald
Yes
zealous kelp
rotund sail
sullen berry
Wow that's a disappointment to hear
Eileen should be up for renewal later in the year I take it
upper niche
Yeah, that was to be expected - surprised it's the first time, won't be the last.
sullen berry
Guangzhou's International roster stonks taking a gradual nosedive
As their rank in the standings getting closer to sideshow's top 4 in his preliminary season power rankings
true hound
Lets go dude
short sparrow
😄
blissful wadi
When is it?
karmic grotto
31th
blissful wadi
31th?
tropic herald
I’m just excited to see these old teams in modern times
Especially when loads have retired
Though my one fear is this match won’t live up to the original, I think some players are washed compared to the first match
raw ermine
Yeah that could be a problem
Do you think they will play the meta back then?
Was it Deathball or Lucio zen dive?
I hope Deathball
blissful wadi
They need to get rid of the 222 for this
raw ermine
Obviously
But they didn't play very many non 222 comps tho
actually, triple tank
rein zarya, hog, ana, lucio reaper
something like that
blissful wadi
Gengi tracer dive
raw ermine
fiveking retired
cloud latch
does that mean esca is coming back?
raw ermine
I would imagine. It would be strange having a stand in
blissful wadi
I want to see Jehong sleep a nanoblade
swift moth
I want to see jehong sleep a sp9rk1e nano blade and he just loses it
true hound
SHIBAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAL
rare magnet
haksal and jjonak playing together now which may or may not mean something
true hound
o-o
rare magnet
there was interview with haksal where he said it will be all korean team and the interviewer asked "do u dislike the color blue" he said "no" so that's what we got
but they already have whoru who plays the same heroes as haksal
blissful wadi
Except hacksal is better, they might want him so they can run gengi doom with libero
They would get rid of whoru If they picked Haksal up
silk frost
that woulda meant a huge waste in scrim time, money, and scouting.
blissful wadi
Plus why the fuck would we be running whoru over libero just to trade him?
tropic herald
There’s more than just NY that Haksal could go to
But NY seems likely
Plus why the fuck would we be running whoru over libero just to trade him?
@blissful wadi Haksal wasn’t a free agent at the start of the season
worldly lichen
limber pine
only 3 months too late
gloomy zephyr
what does tf mean in super's name ?
hidden vault
Did paris had a colour change?
inland flare
Justice will probably beat LA or Dallas with our new roster
I can't believe we actually beat Mayhem map streak xd
swift moth
hyped for more jjanu
worn falcon
he did?
raw ermine
pogchamp!
yo does anyone know why LW blue forfeited season 4 of apex?
Twitter
rip
swift moth
goldenboy?
raw ermine
@cloud latch Apparently Esca isn't returning to play in the show match. Instead, LeeTaeJun, the previous hitscan for Lunatic Hai, is playing
echo quest
Dafran got that 7 day Twitch ban lmao
raw ermine
He got confirmed to play along side miro, tobi, and whoru
echo quest
@raw ermine to prepare for OWL
raw ermine
They were the only ones to drop, GC busan, Luantic hai, and all the other teams stayed
weird
surreal nova
hello im new player in this game i need team
true hound
#lf-scrim-na @surreal nova
surreal nova
?
crisp willow
go to that channel
clear crane
Can't wait for the show match on May 31st!
I really hope the last 2 members are RJH and Zunba
blissful wadi
I’m really hyped
raw ermine
no doubts in the world it will be them
but jehong is taking a break so idk if he wants to play
Maybe he considers this a break
balmy wolf
Hello guys I recently started watching owl and im not sure who i should support. So thats why im here to ask for any recommendations for which team i should support.
forest silo
true
Fusion, shock and shanghai are looking dominant
but Hangzhou Spark has fun colors
But if you like underdog teams its a different set of teams
tropic herald
If you want a team that probably won’t win another game go for Boston
balmy wolf
I just want like an underdog team. Not to strong not to bad. Just the underdog
forest silo
So either of the LA teams maybe?
Glads have potentially good players but something just feels off in all the games they play
blissful wadi
What city/state/country do you live in?
balmy wolf
The Netherlands
blissful wadi
Paris are good, but not great
forest silo
^
blissful wadi
You might like London who are very much underdogs
balmy wolf
Is there any dutch player in the league?
balmy wolf
Oh..
crisp willow
Brussen was on Boston
balmy wolf
Will there be another world cup
crisp willow
I think that theres a belgium player on Houston iirc?
crisp willow
but team recommendations are all personal like Levy said
crisp willow
yeah sadly
balmy wolf
What team do u guys support and why
blissful wadi
NYXL and chengdu NYXL because I like New York teams and chengdu because they play funny comps
crisp willow
I myself support Dynasty since Season 2, since (ik this will sound so stupid) I love tigers, their colours looked amazing and all their names were so memorable imo
forest silo
I liked shock because I'm from the west coast and they used to be underdogs
Now I like them cause they are so strong too
Followed them since the beginning
crisp willow
even if Seoul goes 0-40 I will always support them no matter what
what team are you interested in?
balmy wolf
I heard alot of people like Houston outlaws too
blissful wadi
There are a lot of French players too
tropic herald
Seoul has and had Lunatic Hai
tropic herald
They have slim now
crisp willow
ah
tropic herald
Another reasons to like them
forest silo
Houston is just has a bunch of people from different teams now
tropic herald
RunAway 
blissful wadi
Rip
crisp willow
I liked their Slime pick-up a lot, however I want to see their playstyles with and without tobi in the line-up
since Slime can definitely make Seoul more aggressive
crisp willow
they just gotta work on their communication
blissful wadi
Knowing Seoul they will put Tobi on main tank
crisp willow
only with flex supports*
blissful wadi
Oh yeaaah
crisp willow
Bdosin will Main tank
blissful wadi
Lmao
crisp willow
Tobi will Torb lol
balmy wolf
Man y’all know every player and where he plays thats what i wanna know
crisp willow
Torbi
balmy wolf
I did see chipsa play
crisp willow
Yeah Lol
balmy wolf
Look guys i know a player
blissful wadi
He wasn’t completely terrible
balmy wolf
Am i one of the cool kids now
blissful wadi
Also why tf did glads play paintbrush
tropic herald
crisp willow
ChipSa has died 0 times on Rialto and Dorado
Also why tf did glads play paintbrush
Probably since they underestimated Boston
ChipSa has died 0 times on Rialto and Dorado
or whatever map
blissful wadi
He didn’t play those maps
blissful wadi
I saw that card when they put it on owl
Chipsa was actually pretty decent
He fed a little bit but it was his first game
forest silo
Carpe and Poko kinda carried him
tropic herald
tropic herald
I agree with these Asian ones but the NA?!?!
forest silo
Which teams do you think they got wrong?
honestly its really hard to tell which team is the best/worst with the weekly hero bans
tropic herald
4-8 just feels wrong
forest silo
Yeah I could see those teams being moved around a bit
Its honestly just a toss up with those teams when they play
forest silo
👍🏽
radiant talon
Lol I’m a spitfire fan and we play all the decent teams like damn
forest silo
APAC region is rough
its wild that a few weeks ago Dynasty was 1st/2nd in the region
cloud latch
who are the top 3 sigmas in the league?
forest silo
Choihyobin looked pretty good last year, but I think everyone else has figured him out by now.... so not sure
raw ermine
lets see
true hound
hydraton is MT smh
raw ermine
sorry
raw ermine
yeah
forest silo
maybe they'll pick up some tier 2 players or something
true hound
seagull
forest silo
or streamers like in the first world cup
forest silo
yeah
raw ermine
Blase
forest silo
ksf probs
tropic herald
And has to get a new visa
tropic herald
Though
I think if you have a certain visa in the us you can play for America
So some Koreans might take that option
digital cloud
Hydration lol
blissful wadi
Ohhh super
digital cloud
no
blissful wadi
Why not?
digital cloud
dude is dumber than a sack of stupid people
blissful wadi
He is the best rein in the world and a better main tank than hydration
digital cloud
best Rein?
forest silo
who else then? Muma?
blissful wadi
Yes
digital cloud
Mano would like a word
forest silo
exactly so super is best in NA?
blissful wadi
Yes
digital cloud
he only looks good on a team he has synergy with, same as Bumper
forest silo
only at rein and monkey maybe
digital cloud
Gator would be more consistent, I think
digital cloud
moth probably
forest silo
Moth Rawkus again?
blissful wadi
Rawkus is washed
digital cloud
I hope not Rawkus, but probably
forest silo
just can't think of another
blissful wadi
All the good flex supports are Korean
blissful wadi
I would take him over rawkus
digital cloud
both are pretty bad
blissful wadi
Dog man is decent
true hound
i was about to say use ml7 but then i realized
blissful wadi
He’s Romanian
forest silo
lol
digital cloud
Rawkus and dogman would both be terrible
blissful wadi
Who is hitscan again?
digital cloud
I recommend we surrender
forest silo
lol
blissful wadi
Danteh?
forest silo
ksf?
digital cloud
Danteh would be good, i think
blissful wadi
He’s flex
blissful wadi
Super is good, but dogman is the best option
blissful wadi
Smurf is Korean
digital cloud
but they are on the same team
blissful wadi
And smurf is only better at orisa
forest silo
We talking about USA team I thought
digital cloud
as a comparison
crisp willow
Theyre talking bout USA team
forest silo
gotcha
crisp willow
So no players who aren't American
blissful wadi
Korean team HD: Carpe FD: ? MT: Mano OT: Choi MS: Slime FS: Alarm
Who for Flex dps?
digital cloud
fleta?
blissful wadi
I was thinking fleta, libero or architect
forest silo
Haksal?
blissful wadi
Or haksal
forest silo
idk about architect haven't seen him a whole lot
blissful wadi
He’s nutty
forest silo
lol
blissful wadi
Tizi on OT?
blissful wadi
Why not jjanu
blissful wadi
Team canada HD: Surefour FD: Agilities MT: XQC OT: Note MS: Bani FS: Crimzo
forest silo
I thought Bani was retired?
forest silo
he's just the coach for Justice I think
blissful wadi
He’s the only Canadian I could think of
forest silo
was that in the game with no bans?
true hound
yea
forest silo
oh I didn't watch that one
true hound
i wanted to see them run the hackfist against Dallas though
hot heart
How many maps does everyone predict london will take off of Shanghai
digital cloud
none
hot heart
I think they'll just int and shanghai will get a record time for a series
But London if they do improve enough or just get extremely lucky
Could take a map
And make one close
primal minnow
Still have more faith in Shanghai. Think it’ll be an easy 3-0
zealous finch
I'll go with 3-0 too
primal minnow
What about all the other Asian matches?
Seoul vs Hangzhou is the match I don’t know what to expect will happen.
New York vs Chengdu. I’m saying it goes 3-1 to New York. But if they try fall into Chengdu’s hands and play a crazy comp then I’d say 3-1 Chengdu.
balmy wolf
It wont be an easy 3-0 for shd imo, london actually played pretty well against them and then completely fucked everything vs spark
3-1 shd imo
next mesa
bumper for sk?
wouldnt mano be a lot better
seoul literally so inconsistent
beats shd one week and loses to hunters the next
like ok bro
raw ermine
He said bumper because of the Runaway synergy, and Zholik is probably the next best canada main support
next mesa
i see
zenith bay
Architect IS WITH THE SPARKl!!!
Ler gooooooooo
Reeeeeee
Where my fellow spark fans at
zenith bay
Yes
hot heart
@balmy wolf yeah i agree with you
Well kinda
I havent seen although's mei
Dont know if its better than profits
But i havent seen much of his
Or whoever plays mei for Seoul
rare sonnet
Hot take: I think hero pools might not return for in June after the may tourney
There has been so much backlash that this might be it for them
blissful wadi
I think they should bring back stages, have each stage have a different hero pool and have the stage playoffs setup like the may tournament
next mesa
they should really just implement a hero ban system imo
adds kind of a strategic side to it
instead of it just being an ai
and its the same for everyone
next mesa
what if the team chooses like 1 ban per map
for the other team
or something
idk man
tropic herald
How about there isn’t bans
hot heart
How about we just let OWL and the devs do whatever because they just arent gonna remove hero pools
rare sonnet
I mean they very well might
its a bandaid fix that has caused issues in the OWL & brought negative attention to the game
hot heart
Hopefully
But i have a feeling it wont happen
At least for a long time
Imo
Hero pools was a good experiment
But the conclusion is that it was a bad idea
supple prism
The conclusion is that it successfully achieved its intention
sullen berry
It seemed pretty neutral to me
It won over players in terms of engagement the week that experimental card was played
But retooling entire classes worth of abilities (with exceptions and heroes that stayed the same) it felt very messy to be a part of
balmy wolf
chengdu hunters
sterile lance
hello
crisp willow
sullen berry
so it's actually in June
karmic grotto
unless it's a rein meta, can also be mac
silk frost
mac?
echo quest
When is the tournament?
Damn I wish Mag’s birthday was now
Instead of June
Spark could sign him for that 2 week contract
crisp willow
Yeah next saturday
worldly lichen
Thoughts on kruise joining the defiant?
clear crane
Full roster announced for Lunatic Hai
Last 2 are Gido and Zunba
It’s great it’s still 6 members of OG LH. But no Jehong is just 🙁
hot heart
Main support @worldly lichen
Big sad @clear crane
But if he doesnt wanna play
Thats fine
clear crane
yup yup
Just without their 2 leaders 
One burnt out and the other in military service
Between Bumper and Kaiser tho, I wonder who flexes off to OT. If I remember Bumper used to play that a bit. or Bumper Lucio would be great
worldly lichen
Just wondering, are there any female Overwatch E sports players?
blissful wadi
Geguri
raw ermine
that's the only one
raw ermine
contenders had the Win98 girl but she retired like a week or 2 ago
worldly lichen
@raw ermine
raw ermine
^
worldly lichen
Logix and Kariv are my heroes
karmic grotto
@echo quest is dafran banned from, twitch lmao
swift moth
yes
blissful wadi
For a week
swift moth
dafran more like dafban lmao gottem
crisp willow
he got banned cause he called a group of guys little bitches and they approached Twitch or some?
blissful wadi
Yeah, and alinity only gets 1 day for the nip slip
swift moth
it was hyp's valorant team
worldly lichen
huh
blissful wadi
Is aspen good?
past spoke
girl OW player
yeah
id say shes actually super talented
revival not doing too well tho bc seeding was actually fucked
lol we had to go against triumph 3 weeks in a row
shit gets so old how does that even happen
silk frost
No jehong?
blissful wadi
More like too old lmao
worn falcon
Not old, too young
raw ermine
awww rip no Kox
raw ermine
better late than never
worn falcon
5 tokens per hour
cloud latch
pogu 2 more tokens than before
raw ermine
It's not eligible in china which sucks for some fans
Uber was like "and I have some friends here to help me introduce the tokens" and I was like "Mano and Stratus", and he said "ellivote and SBB"
0/2
worn falcon
1/2
cloud latch
1/2 thought it was mano as well :p
raw ermine
They have the same hair
balmy wolf
uwu
karmic grotto
can you farm tokens in multiple devices with one account?
karmic grotto
VPN
wanton birch
too much effort to get 10 tokens a hour
karmic grotto
YouTube not working, but it's a step
wanton birch
or whatever it is
sullen berry
well now I know what to pass on when someone pops the question every match weekend
https://discordapp.com/channels/94882524378968064/284708899972710410/712699665673486398
karmic grotto
Ill farm those tokens in background
weak bolt
karmic grotto
who?
wanton birch
i mean our country has a characer in the game yet they dont care enough to give us drops ;-;
sullen berry
non-korean staff
wanton birch
they even have an office here
worn falcon
Bani rip
sullen berry
honestly couldn't tell you how much of an impact he had
weak bolt
Sounds like they're just going full Korean and saying fuck it
chilly sinew
who r you guys supporting tho?
sullen berry
!jumbo 
young fractalBOT
weak bolt
Bawlynn is super popular with all the NA players I believe, especially those who played for world cups
karmic grotto
If they want to support Stitch and Jjanu
sullen berry
no doubt she would be very valuable
wanton birch
yeah he was part of team canada right ?
karmic grotto
I can see why they would release them
weak bolt
Guessing they are learning from the Titans, and actually getting Korean staff for the org, to talk t Korean players
wanton birch
bawlynn got in some shit right ?
for telling people they had a spot on the team
when they didnt
worn falcon
i dont remember what she did
sullen berry
happy cake day LHCloudy 🥳 🧁
weak bolt
Wonder if the Titans staff are joining now then
I do love how Justice have timed this right as the community is distracted by new tokens
cloud latch
5heads
weak bolt
5 tokens per hour for OWL matches then, so 1 token per Titans game
sullen berry
so 1.5 token per Defiant game
worn falcon
0.5 token per Uprising game.
weak bolt
Probably get 10 tokens for the defiant vs titans game, neither can win a good match/fight 😄
raw ermine
don't do my team like that
raw ermine
we went to 5 against valiant and Fusion
silk frost
what's up with that Rawkus tweet
sullen berry
i kid, I'll get the 5 if they can go to map 4 as often as they have
worn falcon
being rawkus
weak bolt
Bawlynn is super popular with the US world cup players
Rawkus etc.
Twitter
Guess none of this was leaked drama for a change
karmic grotto
xD
limber pine
likely pivoting toward a korean staff and roster
weak bolt
Danteh with the "??"
My guess is they'll be bringing in the ex-titans staff that were let go
Writing is on the wall for Ellivote/Lullsish now though
worn falcon
Bani was...outlaws right?
sullen berry
POV of danteh not seeing his fave GM from World Cup in an OWL Team: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jp-JKB1kqIc
silk frost
bani bad coach
karmic grotto
why bad coach
weak bolt
Even Jake weighing in on the Justice stuff, very unpopular move
silk frost
idk just a theory
weak bolt
Bani wasn't head coach or anything, he was like an individual coach. Probably working with each player 1 on 1 to help
karmic grotto
that tokens on website does not make sense to me
worn falcon
League does the same
worn falcon
no, you gotta watch in the OWL website or the OWL app
limber pine
would it not work similarly to twitch
worn falcon
not direct in youtube
weak bolt
The website just embeds the YT feed I think? So it'll just track through their site while you have the video running
karmic grotto
but
worn falcon
the website is gonna put the timer, and you gotta be logged in
karmic grotto
will we see increase on viewership?
weak bolt
Hard to know, as I don't know if YT counts embedded views in its tracking
worn falcon
i give 0 fucks about viewership, just want to see matches and hide chat
silk frost
prolly
weak bolt
Yeah randomly, I guess they can implement that in after a while if it works
But its now 5 tokens per hour rather than 3 as it was on Twitch
raw ermine
Yo did anyone realise when Chipsa played that boombox was in not Alarm?
sullen berry
is that the best compliement to jon going above and beyond?
weak bolt
Yeah, they were running the UK Mafia for the game, or as much as they could
karmic grotto
ah
so people ARE going to get random chance on 100 tokens
good
it's going in the right way
weak bolt
No they aren't giving the 100
karmic grotto
yet I hope to see YT having those tokens
weak bolt
Twitch was 3 per hour + 100 on a chance. On average 4.3 per hour for users. Now everyone gets 5 per hour no matter what, so it's more consistent and fair
worn falcon
Youtube was 🐢 to implement those tokens, then OWL decided to put a timer on accounts and give tokes through the website with YT embed
weak bolt
Well it's no longer random chance, it's just guaranteed tokens
That justice statement is so harshly worded when I read it again. Not going to exactly win them any fans
sullen berry
yeah this is no different to mayhem's rebuild this time last year
just spotty logic they decided to make it all korean
weak bolt
I hope Ellivote/Lullsish just stick around and ride out that paycheck
worn falcon
Next year is gonna moving the OWL franchise to KR :P
weak bolt
Imagine if Justice had done this with homestands, how many of their fans would turn up for a roster without Corey/Stratus and full korean
austere obsidian
ellivote and lullsish are probably gonna go but idk
limber pine
I don't think this would have happened with homestands
limber pine
I think a lot of this wouldn't have happened if the season had run "normally"
weak bolt
They can only be released if Justice buy them out, or trade them really
austere obsidian
who knows maybe titans would still be together, i know they had some problems before the season even started but maybe they would be able to fix it if the rona wasnt a thing
worn falcon
People are triggered by the wording lol
austere obsidian
well the wording makes it sound like they did something bad, which i dont think they did
weak bolt
The wording is pretty harsh for a statement to your fans releasing two of your remaining US personalities
sullen berry
give it a year
worn falcon
get better GM and Coach
:P
Speaking of coach, wonder who they gonna hire
PaJion?
sullen berry
Andante?
karmic grotto
Eastern?
weak bolt
Wouldn't be hard to say "Due to the changing nature of the team & forward intentions, we are having to part ways with Bawlynn/Bani. We thank them for there time at Justice and wish them the best in the future". Rather than "To better equip our competitive team" and "effective immediately"
sullen berry
the heck is that intro https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fdsdG9YjiRI
weak bolt
They've not removed their head coach yet, but I guess it may still be to come. He isn't korean either
sullen berry
@1:10
karmic grotto
money money money
weak bolt
I do kind of like how Bani's twitter thanks the GMs, Coaches and Players, but not the Org. Or maybe I'm reading too much into that
sullen berry
i'd just gut a money gun with a supreme sticker on it
and spray it over the OW League
worn falcon
Bani was listed as Indivual Coach
karmic grotto
Western OWL
worn falcon
huh
karmic grotto
watcha think about that?
weak bolt
Depends what plans for S4 are, they may want to try the Home stands again
karmic grotto
They will
It's still their plan
however it can change maybe?
they should use the direction of LoL
weak bolt
I reckon if this monthly tournament stuff kicks off, it could end up doing those at home stands
Then teams travel once per month, rather than weekly
worn falcon
im fine with 2 weeks than weekly
worn falcon
🐢
tropic herald
tropic herald
ChipSa 🐐
karmic grotto
ez
interesting
if you actually pay attention to the second image
Fusion and Dragons are there
weak bolt
Still got a worse K:D ratio than IDDQD
Titans (New ones) should sign Ellivote asap. Get yourself an OT on good ping, with OWL experience
tropic herald
Found this meme
weak bolt
Twitter
past spoke
idk i think the wording of the justice release was shady but
karmic grotto
yes but Reign isn't doing the best rn, but still better than half of the leage
tropic herald
The wording was terrible for the release statement
past spoke
from personal/friends experiences i dont think the release of bawlynn was at all unexpected
or unwarranted
weak bolt
I think we can all understand why they've done it, it's just been done in an awful way for a team already down on public relations
tropic herald
Huh, juice?
past spoke
nah
past spoke
somewhat but i dont think its super crazy
karmic grotto
3-10 right?
weak bolt
The wording is bad though, does a GM really make any impact on your teams performance? Not really
past spoke
dont think she knows how to put together a roster or negotiate contracts or buyouts
gm definitely makes an impact
weak bolt
GM's don't really pick the rosters, the head coaches do
She was like the Flowervin of Runaway, where as Runner was the decision maker
inland flare
Justice could start getting better if JJaunu & Stitch stays.
weak bolt
More there for player welfare, ensuring team is happy. Not anything performance related
past spoke
as someone with 0 gm experience before that position
weak bolt
I'm betting we see the head coach let go in the near future too, and the old Titans coaches put in
karmic grotto
Justice for the Titans
past spoke
god what a trainwreck
tropic herald
Next year for sure
karmic grotto
or they should split the owl regions
give others more chance
and a lower buy in
for orgs in countries like south america
weak bolt
I dont think there is the room for more teams, unless you truly implement divisions with promotions/relegations
karmic grotto
That is what should have happened in the first place
past spoke
as i was saying tho as someone with 0 GM experience before becoming one for justice and then seeing this continuous condescendinf/slightly rude attitude and poor words abt her behavior towards others internally i think ur cutting her too much slack lol
past spoke
this isnt super sudden
weak bolt
She was GM of the US world cup team a few times I believe, and very popular with those players. She wasn't new to GM
keen jetty
wut
weak bolt
and was heavily involved with S1/S2 Gladiators
sullen berry
@past spoke ii think there's some confusion with her and Kate Mitchell, none of the flack deserved for both ex-Justtice GMs
past spoke
thats alreasy so different
obi ive heard bad things about both
neither performed well in their position
weak bolt
The question is, would she have been let go if she spoke Korean? I'd bet not
swift moth
are the justice exploding?
sullen berry
this is an uptick towards it
weak bolt
Justice are doing a mayhem
sullen berry
and they didn't word this announcement well, despite the suggestions
past spoke
well if you are removing language barrier and becoming a kr team
theres especially no reason to keep her
the announcement was kinda shitty tho yea
weak bolt
Twitter
karmic grotto
ez
past spoke
unlucky haha
weak bolt
If new titans don't pick up Ellivote, what are they doing
past spoke
they should prolly pick up a non hitscan-dps and a better main suppt tbh
first and foremost
and get ksaa off that shitty ping
weak bolt
yeah but if you can pick up an OWL level off tank, cheap and in NA already with experience, they should do it
past spoke
and tsuna but less of a problem if they can get a proj dps
thats fair but would ellivote even want to pllay w them lol
weak bolt
I'd guess he'd take OWL over no OWL
past spoke
fair enough but i dont think theyll want to buy ellivote
tropic herald
What MS is available
past spoke
they didnt even want to buy TI
tropic herald
There’s Zholik
past spoke
vs SW
tropic herald
But who else
weak bolt
They could probably pick up his current contract, which may not even run past the end of the year
past spoke
like not picking up TI was such a mistake
past spoke
SW was ridiculously dumb they had to reconstruct like
2/3 of the roster
bc theyre all like 16-17
tropic herald
SW isn’t bad but having a large portion be underage
sullen berry
if you haven't seen this already https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M0nSWTomnwc
past spoke
dalton really good tho
yeah SW woukd ahve been good if
they could pick up the underage players
weak bolt
I think they bought SW because it got them some coaches and players as a package deal
weak bolt
Perhaps they were more interested in picking up the Coaches for the future, rather than players
They may have written off S3, and want to get the coaches in a position to build for S4
past spoke
this season is kinda a flop anyways ig
covid kinda fucked major plans for owl
so much shit happened
tropic herald
Yeah, if you’re not Philly Shock or Shanghai are you even in the race to win the season?
weak bolt
SW have good history of recruitment/scouting, so wouldn't put it past them hoping they can pick up a good roster for S4
tropic herald
Everyone else just kinda there
sullen berry
valiant's roster about right
weak bolt
Teams can catch up pretty quickly if they get some tournament wins. First place = 3 wins remember
sullen berry
the deserve more hype and local awareness as much as Dallas Morning News keeps bloating up my news feed
past spoke
even tho dragons roster is undeniably better loooole
weak bolt
NXYL win and they are now 12-3 with 12 games, if Fusion bomb out they'd be 12-1 with 13 games played
sullen berry
the loyalty in the US rosters is strong\
tropic herald
How can you lose when you have players like Fearless Void LIP Fleta Izayaki and LeeJaeGon
sullen berry
last year's Glads fans are still glads fans pog
past spoke
leejaegon 😳
past spoke
im excited to see paris after this tourney
tropic herald
Wait
past spoke
:)
tropic herald
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