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real gyro
true hound
DOOOOOD
cloud latch
bruh
real gyro
LOLOLOL
hot heart
LET'S FUCKING GOOOOOO
true hound
LETS GOOO
errant night
3 control maps is bullshit
true hound
PUNK
pale roost
LET'S GO BOSTON FTW
clear crane
Sadiators
pale roost
good job Boston
crisp willow
LMAO
true hound
PUNK LOWKEY REALLY GOOD
crisp willow
BOSTON WON
errant night
Boston can only do controls lmao
hot heart
boston s3 grandfinals champions confirmed
true hound
they dont look boomed
hot heart
Actual mad lads
true hound
Punk pog
weak bolt
Defiant have to beat LAV now to avoid the play in lol
dreamy cave
LETS GO ATL
true hound
punk pogggg
ornate rose
Gonna be an excited game to watch
dreamy cave
digital cloud
ATLANTA PLEASE DO NOT THROW
clear crane
Bren is never gonna let this down
digital cloud
I KNOW YOU WANT TO
ornate rose
digital cloud
BUT RESIST
errant night
3 controls is only reason
barren quest
So replacing Brussen was a great decision
errant night
They had no chance on everything else
weak bolt
Boston were far better on 2cp
pale roost
wtf jerry play of the match ?
cloud latch
WAIT DIDNT BREN PREDICT BOSTON
pale roost
Punk did so much for the team . they coudve made him mvp
true hound
imagine how Brussen be feeling
when Boston actually won when he left
and got replaced
clear crane
Vancouver confirmed worst team
hot heart
Bren knew
cloud latch
no way
hot heart
The man looked into the future
pale roost
Without punk Boston woundve not won this
barren quest
I mean Titans is just a new roster
crisp willow
Wait bren voted for Boston?!
pale roost
grats to him
barren quest
I wasn't expecting much from them anyway
hot heart
And saw the glads getting boomed
weak bolt
Punk helped, but all of uprising played well for a change
crisp willow
^
true hound
agreed
weak bolt
CHex on a hero he can play helps, rather than Mei
barren quest
Because Punk is good and Hex is not playing Mei
weak bolt
Honestly boston should have won Hanamura anyway, they'd have gone 2-0 by map 2
pale roost
well . Not everything goes your way in the world ....
You can only move on and respect the other team
clear crane
dishonest comp
weak bolt
Twitter
karmic grotto
Gladiators fans malding hard
ornate rose
weak bolt
LAG have an identical season standings to Dallas Fuel now. Going to be a lot of LAG fans malding
pale roost
People rage waaaay to easy these days . You have to learn to calm down and also respect the competition too .
clear crane
Sad Moth 😦
weak bolt
That moth face is so great
clear crane
but that loss activated Murderer's Row
tropic herald
weak bolt
Punk should just retire now and go down as the most succesful OCE player in OWL history
tropic herald
No
He’s got to carry Boston to a 10-0 stage
Just like Mistakes did
OWL script is just a bunch of repeats
pale roost
true that
weak bolt
So Bostons next game is either going to be either Titans (If Defiant beat LAV), or the rank 5 seed in the tourney
pale roost
he did so many things during the matches earlier
ornate rose
Let's go shock!
weak bolt
Rank 5 gets first pick of teams to play against in tourney
karmic grotto
Oh yes
weak bolt
Have to assume they'd pick Boston
karmic grotto
Rein battle
clear crane
oo thought u meant boston = rank 5
pale roost
so only the last team on the standings will not qualify ?
weak bolt
Last 2 teams play each other to qualify
clear crane
after last's match. wont predict this one haha
ornate rose
SHOCK
weak bolt
From past showings, shock should win easy. But who the hell knows after what we've seen today
weak bolt
Sleepys stream has been popping off lately
dreamy cave
LETS GOO
balmy wolf
i saw him in a game vs C9 Tenz
ornate rose
LETS GOO
ornate rose
Pog
dreamy cave
we got next round
karmic grotto
That grav could have been clutch
ornate rose
Definitely
clear crane
ANS is just torturing Babybay
dreamy cave
come on atl
weak bolt
ANS is actually ridiculous on these hitscans
ornate rose
clear crane
it sucks he retired for that one year
digital cloud
replace babybay and dogman
clear crane
Was OWL level since day 1
digital cloud
I beg you Atlanta
dreamy cave
come on atl
clear crane
LOL they got off
weak bolt
ATL returning the C9 favour
digital cloud
not a c9
inland pawn
babybay wants to play valorant with that aim 😂
digital cloud
learn the term
ornate rose
Love how babybay isn't saying anything in chat lol
weak bolt
What would you play Erster on in that setup?
ornate rose
Ight @digital cloud just mad lololol
karmic grotto
Why not?
ornate rose
Ik it wasn't c9. Its when team has won the fight but gets off point
weak bolt
Erster doesn't exactly play ashe/hitscan to counter ANS there
digital cloud
you didn't say it was a c9
balmy wolf
titans are confirmed last in may tournament now
digital cloud
why are you getting mad at me?
karmic grotto
Players seem to play roles others can play as well
true hound
Missed the first round, who took map 1?
digital cloud
shock
clear crane
yup
clear crane
Shatted on Babybay everytime
clear crane
Super Benched
weak bolt
He came in to boom Gator and then sub him out, winning strat
dreamy cave
LETS GO ATL
weak bolt
I wish they'd make hero pools last 1 month, and play a tournament at the end of each month on that.
We have literally 0 idea what comps are best in the tourney
clear crane
😮 widow flank
dreamy cave
karmic grotto
Rip
clear crane
and with a widow too
karmic grotto
XD
digital cloud
for crying out loud, fire the Atlanta coaches
weak bolt
Are ATL fans going to accept they can't play anything other than Orisa/Sigma comps yet?
karmic grotto
They don't bring erster, curse put
true hound
welp that was murder
clear crane
I dont think even different coaches would make a difference
digital cloud
the presence of babybay and dogman makes me not want to accept it yet
clear crane
These guys are the reigning champs. and are living up to it
weak bolt
I don't get what you'd put Erster on in this meta?
weak bolt
Widow is meta on certain maps, Volskaya/Junkertown
karmic grotto
And then you have Genji that sneaks and dives Widow
ATL can't go dive when you don't have players for that
clear crane
Fucking Choi holy shit
weak bolt
ATL also can't play dive because they suck at it, as prove in all past weeks
ornate rose
Choi is insane
clear crane
Choi shuda been MVP last year
karmic grotto
Past week haven't been dive only?
weak bolt
ATL's wins have literally all been on Orisa/Sigma comps. Every other matches theyve lost
ornate rose
Yea but sinatraa did a lot for them during goats meta
ornate rose
True
weak bolt
Sin was a good poster boy for MVP, with his OWL story, the flashy gravs etc. Can see why they gave him MVP
karmic grotto
ChipSa would mald at Widow, literally oppressive for just existing 
digital cloud
not a c9
clear crane
lmfaooo look at their faces
digital cloud
but that was not good
weak bolt
Even Bob doesn't want to watch this
worn hornet
Bob just wanted to go say hi to Soon
sweet shell
weak bolt
Junkertown next, ANS widow again
clear crane
Erster fits the description to move to Hangzhou as well
"Projectile dps from Atlantic division" right?
weak bolt
Yep
ornate rose
3-0?
clear crane
Looking like it
balmy wolf
atl sold erster 👀
ornate rose
Yea it's Vancouver
weak bolt
I'm not sure they'd risk it after that. Imagine if they lose to Titans
weak bolt
Houston win with Hydration MT, Chengdu 3-0 Dynasty, and Boston beat LAG. It's not the weekend to take any chances 😄
tropic herald
Boston have never lost to Gladiators
tropic herald
Dynasty off Double Shield suck
Hydration isn’t a bad main tank
Certainly better than Muma
clear crane
Chipsa needs to "fuck on these kids"
weak bolt
I'd rather see them pull out Chipsa in the tourney finals. Would be far more eventful
Fusion vs Shock final, map 5, sub in Chipsa
clear crane
is tourney first to 3 or 4
echo quest
worn hornet
was that a Westworld call out in my OWL broadcast?
weak bolt
Do they? They should get 2nd surely, tied record vs Florida but 1 extra draw
worn hornet
I think they suggested Bob is actually Maeve
true hound
MOTH SAVAGE
ornate rose
worn hornet
Zen ❤️ Payload
weak bolt
Shock going for #2 seed as it's an extra $5k for May
ornate rose
Ooh babybay starting to pop off
weak bolt
All those malding ATL fans asking for him to be swapped out went quiet quick 😄
karmic grotto
Brad be like: alright bois. We are 2 down. Play like your life depends on it.
Kamikaze
weak bolt
If SF lose this map, Florida are guaranteed #1 tournament spot, who'd have ever guessed that
tropic herald
Florida has possibly the easiest schedule
They just got to shit on bottom tier teams
weak bolt
Still gets them straight into 2nd round of tournament though, and best chances
clear crane
Choi is a nut
karmic grotto
Edison is really bad at echo ngl
Gets docked on hard by rascal
Lmao
Babybay really getting ans
clear crane
That shatter!!! MTD!!!!!!!!
karmic grotto
Yes but
Super had moth on Lucio
Of course shatter is easier
If you can speedboot
Anyway, good second half
Edison lacking...
Barely active
5v6
???
Gg
weak bolt
lol ANS with the ez
clear crane
The one game I did not think would have gone 3-0
silk frost
I expected this to be 3-0
clear crane
Tier 1 really is Fusion, Shock, and SHD. Then everyone else
weak bolt
ATL just got totally out classed on the Tank & Support front there
eternal ingot
clear crane
NYXL is 1.5 for me for now
karmic grotto
Can't wait for Paris to step up soon
clear crane
I just cant ever trust them in big game situations haha
silk frost
I came into the yaer putting Atlanta in 9th and people called me crazy
Who's crazy now?
karmic grotto
They're my favorite after Reign/Fusion
clear crane
I also really like Guangzhou and Paris
clear crane
Paris once Sparkle can play/Xzi returns/Fielder low ping
karmic grotto
Less than 2 weeks
silk frost
top 5 are shanghai philly shock NYXL and then either charge or eternal
clear crane
Guangzhou if Nero can get through this phase
weak bolt
Paris aren't anywhere near T1 atm I think. 6-5 in Standings is a bad record vs shock, nyxl, fusion and shd
true hound
xzi + sparkle will be destruction
clear crane
They arent until they get those players
clear crane
Paris prob my 2nd fav team after Toronto
weak bolt
Fusion imo are the bottom end of T1, they've just had a super easy set of matches so far
clear crane
Basically any team with the OG S1 valiant members i like xD
besides LAG. Cant root for them as were rivals
silk frost
I think fusion is either #1 or #2
clear crane
sorry space
silk frost
although rascal is so good on echo Shock might be #1 now
silk frost
like holy hell this is a profit-level preformance
clear crane
Same
weak bolt
If you look at Fusions games played, a lot went to map 5, and they've not really played any 'top' teams
silk frost
here's the thing with that tho right
karmic grotto
Dragons look good, but with bad meta for them, they lose
silk frost
who's better between rascal or dding/fleta, iyazaki or Viol2t, LeeJaeGon or Moth?
weak bolt
It's all kinda irrelevant anyway, as we have no clue what the meta is without hero pools
clear crane
no hero pools in tourney
so that shud really define what the true meta is with all heroes avail
karmic grotto
Bad
weak bolt
We could see double shield be the top meta, and ATL/Dynasty win the tourneys
clear crane
So Shock are number 1 seed
silk frost
that was toxic
clear crane
I really wanna know how the seedings work
karmic grotto
Double shield Reaper Doomfist, let's goo
silk frost
atl will get rolled by shock on double shield
karmic grotto
Ez
worn hornet
jesus reinforce turn it down
actually Super was loud as hell too so I'll blame that one on production
vital oyster
that was horrible
clear crane
Shock and Mayhem both 9-1
silk frost
omayhemlul
vital oyster
it seemed like they could'nt hear each other too
clear crane
Wow LAV is currently the 3rd seed
weak bolt
It must be looking at overall season win rate
worn hornet
inb4 super picks Boston then somehow loses
weak bolt
Shock don't get a pick in the tournament until the first round matches are over anyway
silk frost
I'm waiting for the most lopsided vancouver vs shock ever
karmic grotto
Can shock pick fusion or mayhem
karmic grotto
But they won't
silk frost
but do you really think they'll be like "yeah we'd like to pick the 3rd best team in the world thank you"
karmic grotto
clear crane
Really sad. Titans shud be one of these top seeds 😦
silk frost
the 1 team that can upset them
weak bolt
Shock have to pick between the 4 winners of the 1st Round of games
Florida then get 2nd pick of the remaining 3
silk frost
unless they get picked
weak bolt
They can't be picked
silk frost
they can't?
weak bolt
Round 1 is Seeds 5-8 Picking from Seeds 9-12
silk frost
damn
weak bolt
Then Round 2 is Seeds 1-4 picking from those 4 winners
clear crane
Shock cant pick top 4
silk frost
that's upsetting
silk frost
can we talk about how Seoul is the worst team in the league when they can't play sigrisa
silk frost
omegalul
weak bolt
The key thing is going to be which team finishes 4th seed, as they are one of the main potentials to play Shock in the Semi finals
silk frost
Days waiting for guxue to be normal: how long has it been since playoffs
weak bolt
Picking your opponents in the Asia tournament would be crazy. Do you take the risk on Chengdu or a harder opponent
silk frost
we live in the world where boston beat someone that wasn't houston with 14 sick players
weak bolt
So apparently Brussen was due to leave OW a while back, but he stuck around till they found a replacement. Guess he'd already checked out long ago
silk frost
makes sense
that's probably why they looked as bad as they did
Jerry and Myunbong are great players, so is Punk
Halo... exists
Colourhex did... participate
and fusions is getting mildly better
barren quest
Colorhex is only ok when he is not playing Mei
silk frost
Gladiators have never beat boston
silk frost
gladiators have never beat boston
clear crane
Sadiators
silk frost
maldiators
echo quest
Wait LAG lost?
weak bolt
yep
clear crane
They're prob the team that is always hyped up most preseason
worn hornet
uprising won 3 control maps for the win
clear crane
as like a darkhorse
silk frost
DID YOU JUST SAY GLADIATORS WERE THE MOST HYPED TEAM
clear crane
as a contender. not best team
weak bolt
Gladiators got some hyp, but their DPS line is lacking
silk frost
if anyone was a dark horse it was the charge, mayhem, or dragons (if that counts)
echo quest
The streak continues
clear crane
like last year. it was all about nyxl and shock before season started, and glads were said to be in convo to challenge them
silk frost
yeah they're like 11th this year
clear crane
mostly cause i think they won the "bidding war" for decay
silk frost
imo
oh you meant s2
sorry I thought you meant s3
I'm stupid
I still never heard that tho
weak bolt
Gladiators should pick up Nero imo
silk frost
you think the Charge will ever drop that beast?
clear crane
he might drop himself
weak bolt
If his Visa is an issue yes
silk frost
imagine if glads pick up seominsoo
weak bolt
If he can't get a visa, and Haksal is available, would you keep Nero?
tropic herald
Haksal is on NY or Seoul
silk frost
there's no way Spark aren't going for haksal hard
tropic herald
Speculation on Architect to Spark
silk frost
who has said that
clear crane
Erster to Spark
tropic herald
It was a reddit thread of a leak
silk frost
it was a reddit thread
weak bolt
There was a random screenshot of a player called Architect playing on Korean servers, that was it
silk frost
not the best source
tropic herald
The same one that said Jjanu and Stitch
It said 4 things
One was fake but the others are in the air
weak bolt
I think SF could afford to lose Architect anyway
tropic herald
Shanghai looking to sign a dps was fake
clear crane
no it was shanghai
tropic herald
But the article said Spark were looking for a flex dps that played well with Godsb
silk frost
there's almost no way SFS lose Architect, he's a consistent beast and they won't drop him any time soon
clear crane
the TBDs are Spark picking up a projectile from atlantic team and bazzi going to valorant
tropic herald
Architect and Godsb both played together on X6
weak bolt
Depends if he's wanting to go back to Korea, with everything going on, we never know
weak bolt
Everyones situations are different, players may want to be with their families and such, or in their own country
silk frost
no way SFS goes for Haksal, they really don't need him even if they drop Architect
which I don't see hpapening
weak bolt
I'd like to see Haskal to GZC, Nero to Glads
silk frost
stop breaking my heart I'm a spark lover ok
clear crane
Nero might retire
silk frost
if they don't get haksal I will drop off a cliff
clear crane
or take a break
after his visa expires
oh nvm hes not retiring
but he "needs to find his motivation again"
tropic herald
Haksal is on NY or Seoul
worn hornet
does that translate to "Tencent is about to pay me $10m to swap to Valoriant"?
weak bolt
I can't see Haskal to NY, the gain is too small for them
silk frost
I don't think they can just yeet contracts out like this
yeah why would they? They have Whoru
weak bolt
and Libero
silk frost
AND LIBERO
clear crane
Libero never gets talked about enough
weak bolt
Haskal only beats Libero on Genji imo, and Whoru can be near as good on Genji
silk frost
yeah
clear crane
And Genji is uselesssssss
weak bolt
SF to sign Haksal as a doom 1 trick to counter Chipsa in grand finals
Heard it here first
weak bolt
Why dont they put these contenders recaps in between matches when they have 2 or 3x the viewers lol
barren quest
So I wonder how well Mayhem would do against teams that are actually good
Cuz they keep going against low tier teams and getting 3-0s every time
tropic herald
They are at best middle of the pack
tropic herald
3 main tanks
hot heart
Wait
Oh nvm
They still have fate
i feel like mayhem could get a titans player to push themselves a bit higher in the standings or make themselves more consistent
tropic herald
Slime would’ve been best
hot heart
Yeah
He's improved
But just incase he just falls face first and fails again
There's a back up
tropic herald
balmy wolf
I think architect is getting traded to spark
They teased getting a god genji and remember that the core of spark is X6 gaming. Which architect was in when they won KR contenders in 2018.
tropic herald
They also said they wanted a flex player who played good with Godsb
Which architect fits once again
balmy wolf
Since they were both teammates at one point.
And spark just released a comic of another playing coming from the airport.
tropic herald
But where do you think Haksal is going?
NY or Seoul
Where is this comic? Their twitter?
tropic herald
Oh that’s definitely Architect
tropic herald
balmy wolf
makes sense
architect was rarely gonna be their projectile player if rascal is playing
tropic herald
Especially with Echo now
balmy wolf
that too
balmy wolf
question now is if shock is gonna pick up another dps
balmy wolf
since were 99% sure architect is leaving, shock now only has 1 projectile dps and 2 hitscans dps
but yea very few actual good flex dps these days to find
balmy wolf
oh god
tropic herald
I mean if Shock want to pull from
They got options
NA and Korea have some decent flex dps
balmy wolf
I mean i think krystal just gave up on OWL
and no team is gonna be willing to pick someone like him now
since he tanked his own career
tropic herald
Na1st maybe in OWL
balmy wolf
shame tho, he was actually a pretty scary dps when he was playing
balmy wolf
Like i rate him higher than leave
balmy wolf
krystal is in korea?
tropic herald
Nah Na1st
balmy wolf
ahh
balmy wolf
ameng actually looks better on other tanks beside ball and orisa
tropic herald
Ameng is starting to look good yes
Which reminds me
Seoul need to start Marve1 over gesture
balmy wolf
I have a feeling when the may tournament happens their just gonna run orisa/sig and crush
unless orisa/sig isnt the strongest comp
tropic herald
If it’s not Orisa based meta gesture shouldn’t be on MT
balmy wolf
gesture on rein lol
tropic herald
And they have Marve1 who isn’t bad at rein
Seoul man
Glad I don’t support them
They’ve already fufilled their prophecy for the season
Now we just wait for Boston and Dallas
balmy wolf
Find it odd seoul pick up the HC of london
tropic herald
Probably a package with Profit Gestire and Bdosin
balmy wolf
head coach
tropic herald
Boston had a pedo, got rid of pedo, new player will step up and Boston just dominates
balmy wolf
Seoul look bad when double shield is not the meta comp
tropic herald
Then Dallas will fall apart soon
balmy wolf
and look top tier when double shield is meta
tropic herald
Bc Gesture is a glorified Orisa one trick
balmy wolf
his winston is great
tropic herald
And Marve1 has one of the best sigmas in the leafy
balmy wolf
look at shock
tropic herald
Yes, but Seoul doesn’t do that
balmy wolf
which they should
tropic herald
Seoul keeps Gesture in on main ranks he sucks at
And they lose games because of it
The only weakness they’d have would be Rein Sigma I guess
But it’s better than having Gesture on rein
balmy wolf
you know today I thought this was all gonna be 3-0 blowouts
then I remember boston never lost to glads and what do you know they pulled a win
tropic herald
Boston haven’t lost a game to Gladiators
Might be the only interaction between two teams with that many games and one side has won them all
That would be Interesting chart to look at
Every team and their head to head records
tropic herald
Washington only dropped one map to Vancouver
balmy wolf
if only corey was on a better team
guys cracked
but too bad he got on a bad org
same thing with myubong
balmy wolf
maybe next year myunbong gets traded to a better team
considering boston likes selling players
hidden vault
Washington?
balmy wolf
atl has weak flex supports
balmy wolf
every other top team has an amazing flex support
and I think myunbong would not like to be a bench boi
tropic herald
Even low tier teams too
He has old teammates in Guangzhou and NY though
Hmmm
Though Shu and Jjonak are both good
balmy wolf
well the offseason is always interesting to see
so maybe some flex supports leave the team and get traded
i remember when ANS was revealed and everyone was predicting MCD to be picked up
tropic herald
MCD?
balmy wolf
flex support of element mystic
tropic herald
Ah
balmy wolf
in the teaser video the name only had 3 spaces
and considering that element mystic just won contender gauntlet I thought it was gonna be MCD
balmy wolf
yea in hindsight that pick up was pretty great
balmy wolf
got fucked by babybay tho on map 3
balmy wolf
he did great all around
it was funny tho seeing babybay having fun trolling ans
tho rn I think lip is the most cracked hitscan dps alongside crape rn
balmy wolf
yea he got multiple 0 man emps
idle ore
whats the username of “jake” that apparently carried Florida M. against Justice today?
tropic herald
His charge was fast but Jmac and Bernarda were outclassed by Fearless and Void
This led to them feeding
@idle ore Jake solo casted for a little, he’s not actually a player
idle ore
wait then why did they say he carried today?
tropic herald
He had some good casting
idle ore
also im stupid wdym solo casted..?
balmy wolf
jake casting partner got DC
balmy wolf
and he was by himself for a while
balmy wolf
solo casting for like 15 mins straight non stop
imagine talking and hyping the plays for that long
that whats impressive
Twitter
^ crazy right there
balmy wolf
go to Kings rows, he did the whole map by himself
the vid has timestamp in the comments
tropic herald
Rap god
proper linden
shrewd vapor
does anyone know if league tokens are working this season?
sullen berry
Do we have any hope in Boston being able to win 2x KOTH maps in a row?
@weak bolt hype was real watching them today
balmy wolf
Wasn’t able to watch the games today
too hooked on Rdr2 but
damn that Boston win is a surprise
severe swallow
Y'all ready for some SPARK!?
dreamy cave
i missed the first match, how was it??
rotund sail
i dont really care for apac games
its like 1/2 am when they start and all except dragons are ok at best
speaking of i keep forgetting to change my name
there
better
dreamy cave
love to see some junk play finally
sullen berry
I'm ready for a 3-0
4-0 qualifiers will be alright but the tournament bracket might screw them
You also have two casters trying hard not to gush as guangzhou fans
severe swallow
i woldn't be suprised
sullen berry
I would accept a reverse sweep
If hunters could trap charge into old habits and mistakes its on these two maps
outer zenith
Oh, yes.
Give me the pleasure...
The endless pleasure of a Hunter's reverse sweep.
severe swallow
hiya k
outer zenith
Hewwo.
severe swallow
you ready for our bois to play?
outer zenith
Oh. You mean my other boys.
Yes.
Also, BUFF GENJI
A Spyhunters reference in 2020. Oh boy.
Molly and Leave saving that fight.
Aww...
normal haven
Boston won the Glads as a Glads fan i m sad but im happy for boston just why my team XD
sullen berry
Ahaa
Well that's the punk factor
Nobody would anticipate this much synergy without brussen
normal haven
Hi Kenobi
sullen berry
Hello there 👋🏻
normal haven
Vc?
sullen berry
Nah its busy where I am
outer zenith
I'd totally swipe GODSB's headphones.
severe swallow
fat mood
upper niche
wtf is this production lol
severe swallow
FUCK YEAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
upper niche
Didn't Spitfire/Justice go somethign like that?
outer zenith
Poor London. They didn't deserve that.
karmic grotto
sullen berry
gz server looking at the matchups we could win as first seed and I'm thinking
karmic grotto
lol
balmy wolf
the bracket for chinese tournament is out
tropic herald
^^
jagged crater
poogyu
sullen berry
don't forget the reseeding
i haven't caught up with the differences yet but it's possible charge goes for NYXL
sullen berry
seoul can't look worse, while chengdu and london elimated is most likely
balmy wolf
seoul will probably lose 3-0
sullen berry
if architect goes to Spark (I'm going to expect that much to help their dps break even)
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but from past experience, it's more likely to go the other way
tropic herald
It’s all but confirmed that Architect is going to play for Spark
sullen berry
this is a grudge match after being robbed of the semis
tropic herald
There’s hero pools for the tournament correct?
sullen berry
don't think so
tropic herald
Hmmm
sullen berry
it's going to be so scrappy
gz are going to have wayyy to much VOD material to go through
alright then
silk frost
if it's double barrier, we see Seoul roll to finals.
If it's anything else, they're worse than Boston
balmy wolf
its no hero pools
crisp willow
Seoul needs to get their revenge for that 0-6 weekend
balmy wolf
@silk frost hes been spotted on korean servers, hasn't been playing for shock, was on X6 with godsb and their GM has been trying to get architect since spark was announced
crisp willow
imagine if Architect wont be joining them after all of this
silk frost
I don't see a world that Shock would let him go
sullen berry
I think this would be a pipedream, but imagining architect having a worse time on spark compared to shock and see that difference in game would be amusing
silk frost
what would he be worse than Adora or Bazzi?
sullen berry
the ceiling? course not
but he's still a young player, performing on a new team with OW League stakes is an unknown quantity
silk frost
I thought he was 21?
sullen berry
turned 20 this year
sullen berry
yeah for a 18 yo right out of X6 gaming
being picked up over the rest of his teammates and moving to LA would have been a much bigger culture shock compared to returning to Korea for a chinese team but hey
silk frost
haksal goes to gladiators then?
who will spend the big bucks on the current biggest free agent
silk frost
haksal to boston
sullen berry
then that would be one of the biggest plays of the season
because OW League is so strewn with inside info and movements
charge can't make a pickup without all of them leaked at once
silk frost
charge don't really need a pickup if he can get his visa stuff done quickly
tropic herald
There was an interview with Haksal that he gave enough hints that narrowed it down to NY and Seoul
Unless Haksal thinks Guangzhou is all Korean
sullen berry
no doubt you can make an all-KR roster without nero and eileen
tropic herald
Remember that Slime is on Seoul
silk frost
he could have forgotten Guxue was Chinese
sullen berry
and NYXL has had 4+ dps at one point
tropic herald
And I believe that Haksal has some friends on NY
sullen berry
nenne, sbb, libero, flow3r, the other one
silk frost
flow3r isn't there
silk frost
neither is pine
tropic herald
Flow3r is on RunAway now
sullen berry
had 4+ dps at one point
sullen berry
a 5th wouldn't be a surprise to me
silk frost
that dps line is perfect, anything more and it's too much
sullen berry
historical evidence tells me they don't need more dps
but they could sign him anyways to block others from putting them (slime/haksal/jjanu) onto their roster
silk frost
and there's not a world where he joins Seoul where he competes with PROFIT
why would they do that
they'd be burning money
tropic herald
Slime Haksal synergy
silk frost
Seoul aren't smart enough to think of that
sullen berry
profit is hit and miss
silk frost
they play gesture on rein and marve1 on monkey you really think they'll think about synergy with one of his newer teammates?
silk frost
it's more likely that he'd join Washington so he'd be with Stitch and Jjanu if synergy is the thing
them and twilight have been playing together since 2016
it's probably Guangzhou
charge, spark, and NYXL are the ones that fit the bill the best
but NYXL makes almost 0 sense because of their already stacked dps line
sullen berry
shedding players due to visa issues backs them into a corner, but they won't go down with a lack of available subs to play in support / dps
silk frost
Spark are a thought but idk
tropic herald
Spark are getting Architect
tropic herald
It’s not even a question anymore
silk frost
oh
sullen berry
there it is
silk frost
well fuck my hopes and dreams Spark don't get Haksal
sullen berry
had to read the chinese version to figure out those clues
tropic herald
There’s one person that fits that comic
sullen berry
old friend, x6-gaming staff who played with architect...
tropic herald
It’s not like this is the first time Spark has gone for Architect
sullen berry
tropic herald
Godsb Architect kinda nutty though
silk frost
I care
😦
so who's the next assistant coach
maybe they bring back YinDong since he head coached Bilibili?
clear crane
Damn just woke up to Bazzi’s retirement
tropic herald
The announcement should be soon
clear crane
Twilight to SFS 😮😮😮
blissful wadi
He probably wouldn’t play for a few weeks tho
clear crane
Actually that kinda makes sense
Shock were 50/50 running Architect on Ana over Violet early in the season
Prob gonna run him for Ana while Violet sticks to more Zen/Bap duty
weak bolt
I always forget Shock only have 2 healers on roster, shows how flexible their dps truly are to have played Architect & Rascal on them frequently
clear crane
Haksal to choose b/t Seoul or NY
weak bolt
If he goes NY, where does Whoru end up
true hound
Idk
weak bolt
Or I'd kinda low key love to see Libero go to Charge
true hound
no reason to keep whoru for genji when you have Haksal
clear crane
Whoru prob sold somewhere
blissful wadi
I don’t think nyxl would get rid of libero or whoru
After all the shit they have been pulling with whoru
echo quest
Bazzi is gone
weak bolt
If intent on keeping libero and whoru, seems pointless to get haskal
true hound
Yeah
echo quest
Valorant incoming
true hound
Why have two of the best genji players
weak bolt
Hope for a genji meta, run echo genji and go for double blades?
clear crane
big brain strats
weak bolt
It'd be pretty sweet if Haskal goes London. Glister/Haskal duo sounds pretty nasty
but London have 12 on roster already 😦
silk frost
whoru contenders
worn falcon
silk frost
he wasn't amazing
he would only play Doom and if Architect or Haksal (I'm holding out hope) join they have one of those
weak bolt
Probably Justice if it was a super urgent offr
jagged crater
hello
crisp willow
Who do you guys think will win the Asian Tournament
true hound
dragons
raw ermine
^
weak bolt
Depends on whats meta, I could see Dynasty cheesing it with double shield
tropic herald
That tweet just sounds like seominsoo needs time to think
true hound
ye
silk frost
or to drink
silk frost
Fun fact: Florida currently has more wins than they did in s2 and as many as s1
tropic herald
Shanghai are 2 wins from having doubled their total franchise wins
short sparrow
tropic herald
Shanghai before this season had 13 wins to their name
They have 11 just this season so far
silk frost
charge should sign Diya
tropic herald
If ChipSa doesn’t play today
Gotta have our copypastas ready
Heesu overrated
Carpe outdated
Long have we waited
ChipSa activated
balmy wolf
shangai will still be negative for all time even if they go 26-2
