It’s not possible to not pay them and not let them move on
#esports-discussion
limber pine
obsidian mist
RIP vancouver
next mesa
F
tropic herald
worn falcon
That was me when I got the 10 USD from open division participation
Or was 5? I don't remember
gaunt acorn
$10
limber pine
It’s not
inland flare
if my team lose to a bunch of rookies ima cry
balmy wolf
If Boston picked up all of the Titans would that give them a fighting chance or is Boston just cursed?
gaunt acorn
@balmy wolf given that titans players, while talented, imploded due to shitty management
i'm not sure how much better boston would fare in that regard
if you recall back in season 1, many of the korean players quit boston because of huk's management
some of them alleged he treated the korean players poorly
so.. yeah
balmy wolf
Speaking of Uprising didn’t mouffin get released because of sexual misconduct with a minor or was she 18?
balmy wolf
TWO?
balmy wolf
No I don’t read Owl news much
gaunt acorn
ah, ok
well to put it succinctly
dreamkazper was another pedophile on boston uprising in season 1 (2018)
it was a big deal, bigger than mouffin really
because it got mainstream news coverage
gaunt acorn
not vetting their players properly, more like
balmy wolf
Imagine being so bad you hire pedos
tbf dream was one of the best players in the league
when it happened
gaunt acorn
and just so we're clear there's no ambiguity whether mouffin was innocent or not
balmy wolf
nobody would've expected
gaunt acorn
not to sound too self-congratulatory but i was one of the people involved with getting him terminated
so i saw many things that did not go public
he is definitely guilty
balmy wolf
i haven't followed s3 much so i haven't payed attention to anything with mouffin
gaunt acorn
it's sickening to see a few people that claim he's being framed by 'e-thots' or 'vindictive bitches'
like, grow up
balmy wolf
ngl i dont know what congratulatory or vindictive mean
Everyone is leaving or getting released this season
dont blame em
gaunt acorn
@balmy wolf self-congratulatory, as in, congratulating myself
balmy wolf
ah
sullen berry
@balmy wolf welcome to season 3 of the overwatchleague.com
gaunt acorn
no problem
sullen berry
Yeah to be proud of that situation? When you're not even remotely affected if you expose others for a shitty situation? Not a good idea
balmy wolf
anyways anymore news on titans?
sullen berry
That's twitter culture that should be avoided at all costs
gaunt acorn
@sullen berry i mean, i am proud that we got him fired
i just didn't want to seem like i was gloating about being involved
sullen berry
"Did I mention they released fissure" if going to be my favourite end quote when someone doesn't listen to me
gaunt acorn
my point was only that i can say with absolute confidence he's a pedophile, due to what i saw privately
sullen berry
By making up a team that would join Vancouver titans and then using that token to leave the OW League leaker scene
Now that's a bogus self-fulfilling prophecy if I've ever seen one
Multiple sources have known this for weeks
balmy wolf
Or maybe that's what he was actually told and thought if he was wrong that meant he failed at his job so he wanted to leave?
sullen berry
I can't call that a bluff that paid off
Let's pretend he actually said Second Wind instead. What would have been the result of that?
gaunt acorn
then he'd be right
balmy wolf
omfg, i just saw a youtube comment (in reply to a comment that boston would pick up the titans players) saying "the entire Vancouver cast about to hurt minors" 😬
sullen berry
He would have gone back to being a reputable leaker? Made money out of it? Bragging rights before he leaks yet again? Doesn't seem too valuable
@gaunt acorn hard work being in the titans discord - read through every question asked and it's quite ridiculous really
If they don't like what they're hearing, at they could have been reasonable enough to leave by now
sullen berry
I've been rewarching boston's first win at the Justice Homestand. Good stress relief 😌
No team ends the season as a winless loser anymore. Now this is podracing.
Also props to removing ads from the VODs, I hadn't really noticed it until now
echo quest
Either Titans or players are capping
gaunt acorn
@echo quest hm?
karmic grotto
boston with jjanu
jjanu/fusions tank line?
but i dont want my man brussen benched
karmic grotto
yeh
sullen berry
hot take, this makes the players out to be so attached as a core
their identity was really dependent on looking after each other
but in weird way, this probably made them worse off without much guidance what they wanted to do outside of the OW League
these guys are young and have been playing professionally for so long
like who was asking them to improve their english? Not the org obviously but you can tell the lack of foresight into who they really signed to play for them from the beginning
echo quest
@gaunt acorn twilight said they didn’t want to go to korea
gaunt acorn
i'd choose to believe him
echo quest
He said it on stream
gaunt acorn
not sure of the rationale behind management sending them home, though
echo quest
Here's a clip: https://clips.twitch.tv/RichDepressedTapirItsBoshyTime
Chat: Is it true that Titans spent a massive amount of cash on a training facility but the players said they wanted to go to Korea?
Twilight: Massive amount of cash on a training facility.. I don't know the specifics about that but we never said that we wanted to go to Korea.
karmic grotto
?
then what the fuck is the issue?
who said they want to go korea then?
misinformation walking freely
sullen berry
don't you just get tired of the outrage - waiting it out until people start to show this is a net benefit to the league as much as it is an end of a significant timeline
karmic grotto
a net benefit?
you mean more publicity?
getting more attention of a team that was on par with shock
and now roster is released
sullen berry
more eyes on the newest roster
since we've gone without new teams to follow this season
runaway movents should attract a few dozen fans, if there is an audience who still have love for the players and the roster
tropic herald
Twitter
echo quest
Xzi not knowing the whole story
tropic herald
I believe it was iDK that made that statement
echo quest
O
tropic herald
Free agent
astral locust
oh thx
solemn python
swift moth
yo Vancouver have a roster yet
limber pine
nope
swift moth
lmao they have 2 days
limber pine
I wonder if Blizz will consider moving the match for them.
inland flare
no
echo quest
Stratus May quit
limber pine
Why hasn't stratus played
swift moth
that would suck
limber pine
I haven't seen anything AFAIK
swift moth
stratus and corey are such an excelent duo
limber pine
yeah I just saw it on r/cow
i don't understand why ttuba is playing over stratus, unless stratus just has no desire to play
echo quest
Could be another Sinatraa situation
Where it is evident in scrims
That he has no drive
balmy wolf
I’m actually hoping Shock signs Haksal
You know how insane that would be?
I don’t understand why Vancouver would fuck over their players....
Those players won almost a million in cash
Doing that in a year is actually insane
digital cloud
the org just isn't a good one
tropic herald
They didn’t understand how to run the team
Didn’t even have a dedicated translator until stage 3
digital cloud
sad that they have Harb now, come to think of it
he deserves better too
but so did they
Boston and Vancouver competing to be the worst
it isn't supposed to be a contest, guys
balmy wolf
Imagine Boston picking up all of Vancouver?
It would still be an NA team but they would keep them together 😂
swift moth
vancouver has harblue?
balmy wolf
I would like to see them signed onto one of the Asian region teams
Send Ryujehong back to Seoul dynasty we go back to basics boys
karmic grotto
@swift moth no
balmy wolf
Harb is a streamer for luminosity
karmic grotto
^
raw ermine
Luminosity was hired by Aqualini, the ppl who own VT, to manage VT, and they have harb signed
balmy wolf
If Harbleu becomes a titan I feel like it would hurt him
raw ermine
Super made a strange comment about how he did know if SFS signed a titan player, implying they did. He said it wasn't haksal tho
digital cloud
really?
digital cloud
I mean, they have Violet, Choi, moth already
karmic grotto
and if it was another player, it would be jjanu as 2nd off tank
hmm
this is illegal
raw ermine
prob a supp
karmic grotto
can't have both choi and jjanu in same team
tropic herald
They said the same about Poko and Fury
digital cloud
it would be too broken
the laws of physics
dead
all hope for other teams to win
lost
balmy wolf
Twilight might be a good pick up for NYXL
tropic herald
Doesn’t hurt to have a back up
digital cloud
true
echo quest
Twilight is a starter on almost every team in the league
barren quest
I mean what team needs another flex support?
echo quest
He isn’t going to be a backup
digital cloud
he would be if on NYXL
balmy wolf
NYXL only has two supports
digital cloud
jjonak isn't gonna be backup
balmy wolf
Picking up both slime and Twilight would be a cool pick up
They could rotate both of them in and out
digital cloud
I suppose so
raw ermine
I think the shock would get another support
digital cloud
but that kind of thing hasn't worked out for Atlanta and Houston
balmy wolf
NYXL has 9 players
raw ermine
do they?
balmy wolf
Yeah
raw ermine
I mean SFS not NYXL
5 dps, 3 tanks and 2 sup, so 10 not 11
they could get both the supports
balmy wolf
Nvm 10
raw ermine
that would be the best team, like, every
balmy wolf
An NYXL rotating supports would actually be stacked
I love jjonak and Anamo but both of them would give each other breaks
tropic herald
@echo quest they said that about Fury
balmy wolf
Jjanu would be a good pick up for the charge
tropic herald
Idk
digital cloud
he would be a good pickup for pretty much all of the teams that aren't in the top 3
probably even for the top 3
tropic herald
I’m assuming most of the Titans players are going to end up on teams in the Asian region
balmy wolf
Haksal would be a waste on the charge
tropic herald
I hope Slime and Seominsoo go to charge
balmy wolf
They have Nero who is just as good surprisingly
balmy wolf
He plays genji
tropic herald
Who needs to have a Gengi in pro OW 2020
digital cloud
true
they need to buff him, even though it would be a pain
then we might see him for other than nanoblade
limber pine
Nero's visa expires soon
balmy wolf
Oof
tropic herald
Are there other players who have visas going out soon?
digital cloud
they need to get that fixed
tropic herald
That’s probably an important detail to think about
limber pine
It's just the non-asian players playing in asia i think
cuz neptuno has a similar issue
echo quest
Nenne is korean so how come?
tropic herald
Are there other non Asian players in Asia?
Idr the details behind Nenne tbh
I just know he’s in America
Twitter
Hol up
echo quest
YT was not the move
limber pine
They did the move extremely poorly
digital cloud
the contrast is sad
limber pine
no drops and they announced it like a week before matches
limber pine
it may not have been a week, but it wasn't much longer than that
digital cloud
yeah, it is more like 35 k these days
though that seems to be a fairly steady number at this point
not a great one
tropic herald
slim haven
And they're playing on Saturday 🤣 Good luck.
balmy wolf
Isn’t China’s streaming platform with the OverWatch league on usually get 1 million + viewers
slim haven
@limber pine Walk over maybe?
swift moth
I got a pc account in fall and was hyped to get my gladiators moira skin but then blizzard said no
limber pine
The quality of YT is far better than twitch, at least in my experience.
slim haven
Varies for me. But the VOD and the easier ability to pause and rewind the live broadcast on YT is much better than Twitch.
balmy wolf
Stream quality drops on YouTube
slim haven
Yeah, twitch felt more consistent.
next mesa
they really fucked up with no drops
a lot of people watched only for drops
yt is more accessible but whats the point if no drop
barren quest
Drops are coming back but only on OWL website tho
raw ermine
Does anyone know who owns the ChoiHanbin account in t500? is it one of them or someone else?
swift moth
im not a fan of youtube owl
but also this season has made me loose a lot of interest
like last season I watched lots of games but this season it seems a lot less intersting
rare magnet
gilded zodiac
balmy wolf
greyy retired
worn falcon
wait for them hiring Doge
balmy wolf
raw ermine
kinda expected
balmy wolf
guessing hes going to Valorant?
limber pine
he said he doesn't know what he's doing
balmy wolf
wait so stratus left justice?
worn falcon
No?
balmy wolf
Stratus is gone
Two justice coaches tweeted crying emojis
@worn falcon scroll up
this was just said
worn falcon
There is nothing official coming from wash or stratus himself
sullen berry
@worn falcon I liked greyy, he had good vibes when he on camera for eternal that was inoffensive and insightful https://youtu.be/bLhXZk29qxY
It was inevitable though. I keep getting Hyp and him confused but now they've both left
sullen berry
I just didn't expect it like the signing and immediate play time for Fielding
ping lag spikes so hard we are now 3 weeks before sp9rk1e is eligible to play
karmic grotto
Fielder
echo quest
Damn. He seemed so hype about playing beginning of the season
karmic grotto
I hope
echo quest
Feelsbadman
karmic grotto
but man, can't fly rn
echo quest
Waiting for that stratus announcement
I think Linkzr,Unkoe,AKM are also gonna retire after some point
weak bolt
Unkoe/AKM won't do it unless they have guarantees of Valorant contracts. Might as well ride out that fat Fuel money
weak bolt
Ah, then yeah they're unlikely to be signed to any future teams
I think the big thing is, whether OW2 comes out before or after OWL season 4
weak bolt
Paris down to 7 players now, got to imagine there may be more signings due there
sullen berry
Really sad to hear their best and final moments together were in scrims. What a Lineup they were and the gladiators gave them a good run
echo quest
Dallas B team basically is a valorant team
swift moth
the titans? @sullen berry
sullen berry
Yeah, skipped a lot of conversation on discord again
hot heart
So
tropic herald
Poor Fissure
weak bolt
I'd be curious to know what teams have in place for player welfare, and whether the teams with it end up doing better over course of season
sullen berry
Big sad, they've got great heads on their shoulders
hot heart
Yeah
sullen berry
They'll move on to better prospects
weak bolt
Titans roster should all just queue for Ranked as a 6 now and climb to 5k SR x6
true hound
probs
weak bolt
Fielder seems to be a result of Hyp and Greyy leaving, rather than the cause
hot heart
Makes more sense yeah
sullen berry
Well if fissure could experience burnout twice in his career
sullen berry
That's rough af
echo quest
Pepehands
weak bolt
Ah yeah crap forgot they removed that
hot heart
Oh shit yeah
Literally completely forgot about it
What if they tried queuing at the same time?
weak bolt
They should just go play the Arcade one without 2-2-2 lock and play goats into ranked
hot heart
Would increase their chances
Imagine queuing into fucking titans in arcade playing goats
IMAGINE
weak bolt
Imagine queuing for arcade and coming up against Titans goats reofl
sullen berry
Making arcade queues great again during the event off-season, that'd be novel
hot heart
You'd loose in less than a minute and a half
weak bolt
Any leaks on Titan's roster yet, other than it's potentially Second Wind?
sullen berry
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Well that's a thonker
weak bolt
Investigate Huk for win trading
sullen berry
Even on a contenders level, Australian police had to get involved for AU because one team was under scrutiny for match fixing
So they're not offering it up for tier 2, excellent
hot heart
Tier two is dead anyway
sullen berry
Well now that means I'm going to be called up for suspicious behaviour for betting on Guangzhou. Fantastic...
karmic grotto
and they're still competing for prize pool
weak bolt
I think deteriorating is the best word for T2
echo quest
Viewership wise it’s dead
sullen berry
Subsidies and format changes has never been enough to support local competition
At least they broadcast at reasonable hours in their respective regions
rotund sail
how much do they advert t2 tho
sullen berry
tropic herald
It got a little better recently
weak bolt
I think they'll end up running/funding tournaments more often, and leave contenders as it is
tropic herald
They have contenders schedule on the OWL website now
sullen berry
Better question is how much of an overwatch esports fan are you to either support it or watch it for upcoming talent?
weak bolt
Contenders keeps teams around year round, and the tournaments gives viewership/exposure to those teams & players
sullen berry
I followed trill's path to pro
And that's honestly sad
To be replaced with veteran players because his rein and orisa hasn't caught up
weak bolt
I'd love to see them combine the Experimental tab with funded tournaments for some T2/T3 exposure
sullen berry
Only time when we can see trill play for the fuel is if Gamsu was poisoned by some Boston clam chowder
tropic herald
Maybe if There is a Rein Orisa meta again and one of those can play
sullen berry
I don't want to get my hopes up for OCE
Colourhex now plays much better as a team. He's a hit and miss carry for the team before Jerry filled that role better
weak bolt
Trill was overhyped by OCE region I think, there are very few good players from that region
karmic grotto
jerry actually does good
but needs better tanks imo to have more space
I feel like fusions brussen doesn't have enough synergy to be effective
could be a coaching issue
weak bolt
Brussen kind of got thrown in to the deep end really
Boston just seems more of a mess than Titans in all honesty. At least Titans make decisions and take actions. Boston just sit their and think things will fix themselves magically
balmy wolf
how r u doing today jasmine
sullen berry
their production was what got me into esports
not other game was even within earshot or accessibility in comparison
echo quest
They made garbage teams in LCK fun to watch due to the storylines
The way they built up Najin E-mfire and it’s star player Duke during the 2015 spring split was incredible
sullen berry
tell me more, we've got all day
I love those deep storylines they made
but I was never exposed to the whole Detonator and Meta Gaming days of old
grim crag
In an OWL game is it possible for players to swap roles? Like i dont know if it would ever be useful but could like a dps and a support swap
echo quest
NaJin E-mfire was an OG of the Korean Lol scene but they were never a very big org so their best players often left them for bigger orgs. Duke was a backup top laner that was finally given the chance to shine when their previous top laner left for another team and he exploded to stardom However it was at a cost as Because they were a small org they couldn’t get the best players thus leading them to be quite subpar average roster as a whole. But they were fun to watch simply because of what duke could do. The dude was pure class as he was dubbed “ faker of top lane” and he got to such form that he stomped the likes of Marin who is often considered the goat or second best top laner of all time. Unfortunately it was basically a one man team and it led to them finishing 6th in the standings and all their wins came from duke carrying the absolute shit out of them. To put you in perspective how valuable people around the league saw him he won the spring split MVP despite not making playoffs over people like Ssumday and Faker
raw ermine
@grim crag in between maps or mid map?
echo quest
Basically every match of theirs was if Duke would be able to win his lane considerably and open up the game for the rest of his team. Really sucks they couldn’t get him talent as he ended up leaving to SKT T1 where he replaced Marin and won a worlds championship
@sullen berry
grim crag
Either i figured mid map was probably defintely a no go
grim crag
So you are stricly a support player then? Cant swap even between maps?
grim crag
Okay cool thanks for the info really new to the OWL scene just starting to watch some stuff
raw ermine
the played sinatraa on tank and dps, rascal on supp and dps, and architect on supp and dps
raw ermine
it's puckett's birthday today
echo quest
@sullen berry did you see what I wrote xD
clear crane
Twitter is buzzing that Higan/Coluge already got "Slur'd"
valid carbon
okay this is the first time im watching any competitive OW and i understand london haven't played in a while
are they good? they're the "home team" so i feel obliged to root for them
tropic herald
They aren’t shit
digital cloud
well, it is unclear
tropic herald
But they aren’t great
hot heart
They might go far
balmy wolf
theyre 3 wins
have
been
well
sub par
all 3-2
they looked good vs nyxl in week 1
got destroyed by paris
they could go 2-0 this week
but i think they beat hunters and lose to charge
sharp cairn
balmy wolf
bit of a problem, only time i played ow was on xbox
i dont have xbox
i only have a laptop now
sullen berry
@echo quest I got the chance to read it now. Sick storyline. A shame the western scene never really followed the stories of the very early Apex days. There are some gems that are coming to light now which are indeed very interesting as they continue
Personally I think Shu is on a constant redemption arc since those young flash lux says playing with fleta.
Dude moved to the US then dominates under a functioning Toronto esports roster in Contenders America similar to how EFFECT was made out to be this god for Envy in Contenders season 0 and their run during MLG Vegas
sullen berry
Guangzhou charge Shu https://liquipedia.net/overwatch/Shu
Not be confused with the coach Shu
tropic herald
Shu is underrated af
sullen berry
That shu was an analyst for SF Shock last year
Shu from Guangzhou is very much underrated in his current form. Pre-existing synergy with Nero and being in a predominantly English speaking team he has a big brain 🧠
Coming into a Chinese team
That would make most of their shot calling in english
balmy wolf
I think shu was the one who recommended nero to be picked up by the charge due to them teammates before
worn falcon
old but still i cri https://twitter.com/Twilight_OW/status/1258122818564141057
balmy wolf
wonder whos gonna pick him up
since flex support is the most stack position in the league besides dps
worn falcon
more like which team/org have the monies to pick him
because not so many in the OWL have that
balmy wolf
all of them have money, its more of the lines of "is it worth it" to splurge on 1 player
I think there were rumors of boston trialing jjanu recently
upper niche
Soooo... do Vancouver have a team for tomorrows match yet?
gaunt acorn
i believe they have at least 6 players under contract as of right now, yes
balmy wolf
echo quest
@sullen berry I think the other one that really stuck with me would be would be Score’s but it wasn’t a single split it was about his whole career
balmy wolf
echo quest
Jehong taking a break from competitive overwatch
balmy wolf
Can owl teams still get new players and let them play this season ?
sullen berry
@balmy wolf the Paris Eternal literally this exact thing and signed a pro Ana and was playing that weekend
Obviously these signing have to be done pending OW committee approval which can't be done overnight for most players looking to be signed
You're also probably going to be limited in travel. Fielder is playing in Korea while his team is in the US
echo quest
200 ping pogchamp
sullen berry
okay i might have screwed up and forgot i left youtube speed at 0.25x
I thought he sounded like turtle
tropic herald
Allegedly Coluge/Higan already got dropped
limber pine
source?
silk frost
twilight to spark
clear crane
So Titans did try to pick up Higan but league said no
echo quest
Dafran carrying
silk frost
I got coached by higan
weak bolt
Corey is kinda prime Valorant material, so not surprising
raw ermine
true
clear crane
There goes the DPS line from Team USA
weak bolt
Can we expect WJ to go full Korean?
Stratus rumoured to be retiring too, only leaves Ellivote/Lullish
clear crane
Washington Titans
weak bolt
Well Stratus isn't gone yet...
clear crane
Does Washington fall below Boston now
weak bolt
Not surprising, he was big into CS:GO back in the day I think, and OW Hitscans aren't that fun any more
Not sure it's a huge loss for WJ, Corey hasn't been playing well all season
weak bolt
Jerry to WJ please
clear crane
5th member of Sentinels? 
raw ermine
Then Boston will have 1 dps only
weak bolt
Not like they're gonna win anything anyway :D. And we know Huk likes cash
balmy wolf
holy shit
karmic grotto
sign someone from titans
switch pls or seominsoo
hell, sign one of them + haksal
weak bolt
I'm most amazed at how T2 scene is supposedly dying, but nobody is getting signed to OWL for the replacements
clear crane
Unless your in the region where the team is currently playing in rn, would prob be a little hard to get documents
balmy wolf
tsuna to justice? 👀
weak bolt
Majority of Envy/Academy teams based in NA would be eligible surely. All very weird so many departures and no real signings
balmy wolf
Is this the beginning of the end
clear crane
So whose the next big name
clear crane
NA wise haha
weak bolt
Won't be Korean players unless Valorant jumps in popularity there imo
weak bolt
Linkzr would be my guess, but AKM/Unkoe will just sit out their DF contracts for the easy money
balmy wolf
5 owl pros have retired now, 4 for Valorant
weak bolt
I can't see AKM having a huge following ready for Valorant, I mean, when was he last regarded as a great hitscan player?
raw ermine
He was a good zarya tho
weak bolt
If you're permabenched and on a contract, may as well milk it
raw ermine
better than effect
balmy wolf
Id assume he would want to actually play tho
weak bolt
Corey was a regular starter for WJ so is probably more keen to leave
balmy wolf
Did Hyp retire?
weak bolt
Hyp & Greyy both retired
tropic herald
Stitch to Washington?
balmy wolf
Bc this season we have
Kellex
Hyp
Greyy
Sinatraa
Corey
Rujehong (temporarily)
who else?
weak bolt
Jehong is more of a team thing imo, rather than retiring. If Titans continued, he'd still be there
balmy wolf
idk, he said he was really stressed
i think he would've left
Oh yeh and none of these players can join orgs like imt, nrg, envy in valorant
weak bolt
Why not?
balmy wolf
Blizzard made a rule where if a player retires, they can't join an org that is in OWL in a diff game
weak bolt
Yeah the ESPN stuff about not able to sign to OWL Orgs in other games was Fake news apparantly
balmy wolf
u sure?
weak bolt
Sinatraa said it was yeah, I think he had NRG offers but wanted to go with others to Sentinels
balmy wolf
id like to see g2s team
clear crane
Sooo Titans prob beat WJ tmr
weak bolt
Depends who/what Titans sign lol
clear crane
if they can field a roster by then
balmy wolf
it will be SW plus some others i think
they said they'd announce it
i think it will be some time today
weak bolt
I know they were trying to sign Coluge and the league refused it
clear crane
So 4 members of SW plus others. hmm
clear crane
Coluge basically blacklisted at this point
balmy wolf
hes not in korea?
balmy wolf
i want stitch to justice
tropic herald
clear crane
Prob cause of his past
balmy wolf
yeh what happened
clear crane
Toxic x10 basically
tropic herald
A few years ago he was one of those people who was toxic af and didn’t mind dropping slurs
clear crane
female harassments, racism, other frown upon stuff
clear crane
In a hypothetical OWWC now, who plays DPS for USA? Nero +?
balmy wolf
we need to cherish these last few moments
uhm
we we need hitscan if its nero so
uhm
true hound
Calvin
karmic grotto
justice must have signed a player already
true hound
stratus might retire right
balmy wolf
apparently
echo quest
Damn Dafran went from hard carrying to one game to playing a support role and getting 16 assists
clear crane
Does KSF play hitscan for them? lol
balmy wolf
Twitter
Damn Dafran went from hard carrying to one game to playing a support role and getting 16 assists
@echo quest what team is he on
prodigy?
echo quest
Fnatic chat is malding that an OW pro was dicking on Cs players
Ah cs pros and one R6 player
true hound
lmao
balmy wolf
there are rumours that fnatic is picking up the winning team
echo quest
Dafran isn’t going pro
echo quest
Dude gets 8k streaming valorant
balmy wolf
ok?
true hound
he doesn’t wanna go pro
tropic herald
He makes bank just streaming
true hound
He may have joined reign, but he also quit after a single stage
echo quest
He only went pro because he wanted to see he could do it
tropic herald
He doesn’t need to go pro
true hound
^
echo quest
And left after he proved it
true hound
He’s tried it like 3 times it ain’t for him
clear crane
pro isnt for everyone
true hound
Is he skilled enough ye but I doubt he wants to
karmic grotto
And is rolling the competition
earnest leaf
man looks homeless now lol
karmic grotto
Yeah
XD
12 hours valorant
You know what they say
To be good at something you gotta spend hours of time
Since he is a streamer...
echo quest
Lul
His YT has gained a lot of subs since valorant beta launched
Like 150k to 200k
He genuinely enjoys the game as he spends hours trying to find out spots and shit and how to improve the use of his hero’s abilities
echo quest
Lmao
balmy wolf
these cam spots are disgusting
echo quest
Dafran found that you can silence footsteps with a gun I’m not which gun it was
It was pached
He also found some disgusting wall bang spots
echo quest
No i mean spots where bullets can travel through multiple walls
Which shouldn’t happen
karmic grotto
Penetration?
short sparrow
Dude Corey 😢
echo quest
No it isn’t
Sinatraa said it was bullshit
ALSO guys
Can we get a massive F
Like forreal a massive F
For Tizi
Dude starts military service end of May
echo quest
Ngl it’s actually fucking bullshit how he didn’t get picked up
tropic herald
TiZi is a good pickup for many teams
Also this hitscan hole in Justice
Gives many players opportunities
balmy wolf
Ngl it’s actually fucking bullshit how he didn’t get picked up
@echo quest even if he did, he would have to do military service
echo quest
It’s just sad how these players that would be great in OWL don’t get chances
Ik
Kaiser is actually unbelievable
tropic herald
Dalton, Ta1yo, Kevster, Onigod, Stitch, Seominsoo
echo quest
I genuinely don’t understand how the second best MT in Korea after mag doesn’t get a team
echo quest
Kaiser has said on stream and on Twitter he is losing motivation for the game
So probably why
blissful wadi
Rip to Corey
inland flare
guys
ive been wondering
do you think harbleu could join the Vancouver titans
since hes apart of lumionsity gaming
an org that actually owns the titans
digital cloud
I would like that, personally, but it is hard to say whether or not he is OWL worthy
raw ermine
Skill-wise? he probably could, although he doesn't play D.va, but is proficient at everything else.
Realistically? I don't think he wants to stop streaming
inland flare
he can still stream
super still streams a decent amount time
but I think hes worthy
way worthy than chipsa on his dps
in my opinion, harbleu is better than space on off tank
inland flare
no
balmy wolf
Did hyp or kellex leave for Valorant
inland flare
@tropic herald have u seen him play?
inland flare
they're both good tho & both worthy to be the same level
but it somewhat makes since if he join the titans
digital cloud
pretty much the reason I think Harb could be OWL level was that he was a Tf2 pro
I think he has what it takes to make it there
inland flare
ofc
digital cloud
but he seems to have some issues playing optimally on a team
so I don't know if he would be ready now
though I am almost certain he would be more deserving than Chipsa
swift moth
ladder and owl are very different environments
digital cloud
no, he did not
echo quest
in my opinion, harbleu is better than space on off tank
@inland flare he did
tropic herald
in my opinion, harbleu is better than space on off tank
I like harb
But that take is just wrong
karmic grotto
Space is better because space can play D.va at high level and space has 3 seasons owl experience, however
Harbleu has heroes he's better than space at
inland flare
i think harbleu deserve to be in the same level
karmic grotto
With coaching he can
as in the last tournament, he had Kariv as support
harbleu was cracked
inland flare
yet he won
tropic herald
Fun fact of the day: coaches are extremely important to teams
tropic herald
This is why Valiant and Paris are good
inland flare
valiant?
inland flare
no the management & staff are good
tropic herald
Also I feel like Libero is an overall underrated for how good he is
inland flare
but the players its a meh
tropic herald
Huh
raw ermine
Pavane?
cloud latch
wizard?
tropic herald
Wizard
tropic herald
And now is on Seoul
inland flare
and things werent that good
ik, but the players on that team was bad for the Washington justice, since somehow they cant play goats 4 some reason
tropic herald
Goats is very team oriented
So while the team might’ve been individually talented
They just couldn’t play well together
inland flare
Tru
but do u think harbleu could fill up 4 the flex tank role for the titans
since hes apart of an org that owns the titans
@tropic herald
tropic herald
No
inland flare
any reason?
tropic herald
Doesn’t play Dva
inland flare
its because shes meta, right?
tropic herald
She’s very often the best pick so his inability to play dva is probably going to make him a sub optimal option for OT
digital cloud
always a good idea to be able to play the character that can eat ults and damage
karmic grotto
@tropic herald member main tanks playing dva?
inland flare
tru
karmic grotto
brother, everything is possible
this owl season is pure flex
where mt play dva and dps play support
or tank
despite having players who are qualified for the roles
tropic herald
So now you have to have a main tank that plays dva
inland flare
tbh i dont think harbleu is a good dva
inland flare
hes still flexible tho
karmic grotto
harb is off tank
inland flare
yeah
karmic grotto
hammond is just extra hero likes to play
tropic herald
He plays lots of OT well but his inability to play Dva is a the biggest reason he’s not in OWL
tropic herald
Dva is meta very often
karmic grotto
oh wait, she is this week
inland flare
but think about it
karmic grotto
IF they want specific dva player, they can have a dva player
but for everything elese
else* harbleu is good to have
tropic herald
But that means you are constantly switching out your players
karmic grotto
yes, same as other teams do
tropic herald
Which, rolls any synergy
inland flare
skill & experience is more effective than following the meta
karmic grotto
not every player plays every week
tropic herald
It’s different when you are switching out tanks
inland flare
i mean, who cares if he cant play dva
karmic grotto
sad
inland flare
tbh, just because he cant play dva doesnt mean hes not worthy, right?
inland flare
dva is too easy to counter
karmic grotto
if dva is specific for a meta, she's good
would be funny
if they actually signed harbleu, like, changing contract
but we know not gonna happen
so... yeah
let's see what titans roster will be today
inland flare
i hear they're signing 5 players from second wind, right
karmic grotto
yes
raw ermine
they have 27 hours and 40 minutes to announce it
tropic herald
I heard they were signing 5 for Second Wind
But I’ve also heard that Higan got OWL blacklisted
karmic grotto
you know what I bet
Even though they say Sources will sign second wind
Today they play against Third Impact
Would be great if they decided this match will decide who of the teams get signed
feral zodiac
Wait who else left for valorant 👀
tropic herald
Corey
feral zodiac
Ouch
tropic herald
Corey out of the house
echo quest
Dafran 11k viewers
Pogchamp
Up 1-0 in the finals
Won the first map in dominant fashion
13-3
karmic grotto
his team is godly
echo quest
Forsure
Poor dafran has to play brim on that map
Next map is his sova
Actual god at him
karmic grotto
plays brim but uses his brains to put those smokes on good area denial
echo quest
Ye
jagged crater
Holy moly Corey leaving already
Hes already proven himself but he's barely even played his comfort heroes in OWL
1/4 of s2 was widow/Hanzo and not even 1/2 of s3
Such a shame, would've loved to see more of him
echo quest
dafran’s team destroyed in the finals
balmy wolf
got carried pepelaugh
echo quest
Least the team could do after he was forced to play Brim and POPPED OFF
In other matches
echo quest
Yes
karmic grotto
cracked
digital cloud
dude is accurate as heck
balmy wolf
titans confirmed they will announce their roster today
raw ermine
where?
balmy wolf
i dont have one, someone posted the SS in the liquipedia server
i can invite u to that
tropic herald
Sure
balmy wolf
its in the overwatch channel there
raw ermine
That's still a happier ending
blissful wadi
He lost his best friend on the team