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outer zenith
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Because the token system was so damn exploitable.

echo quest
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Bren and sideshow are great casters

balmy wolf
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Bren and sideshow are the best casters

pale roost
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Vancouver needs to do something about their losses man . they got destroyed in asia

balmy wolf
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?

weak bolt
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Titans getting whole new team

balmy wolf
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Vancouver has been rumored that the team disbanded

true hound
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lost jjanu and a head coach

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ye

balmy wolf
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Like EVERYONE

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mostly because the org wants them to play on NA to come to America to play

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But they don’t want to because the coronavirus isn’t contained in NA

echo quest
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Probably also stemming from bumper being let go

balmy wolf
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no

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Bumper needed to go

pale roost
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that's just bad news for the league . Imagine a team like the titans disbanding like that in the middle of the season . not a good image

echo quest
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How did he need to go? He was an above average main tank

balmy wolf
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LMAO

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he was one of the worst

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I wish they picked up Swon

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He would have been a safe pick up

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He’s a really good rein player

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And monkey

weak bolt
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Bumper was good in Goats, but in 2-2-2 he wasn't great

balmy wolf
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Bumper just wasn’t good

pale roost
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I heard stuff that Bumper was sub-par as a tank for the titans but still, the team got around him and they managed to stay dominant last year .

echo quest
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Swon was absolute dogshit what are you on

balmy wolf
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His team mostly carried him

echo quest
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Fate afk is better than swon

weak bolt
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Swon was pretty bad

balmy wolf
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?

echo quest
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Are you sure your not confusing swon with someone else?

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He was really bad

pale roost
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i know he was carried in a way ... or another but he did not feed that bad that the team lost matches because of him

balmy wolf
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Swon and bqb were good part of Florida during season 2

weak bolt
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Bumper worked because of all the Runaway synergy, he worked for them in goats as that meta was fully about synergy. The moment it goes to 2-2-2 it's over for him

echo quest
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Lmao what

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Swon was utter pepega

weak bolt
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Yeah Swon as not good, he even retired from OW earlier today

pale roost
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pepega lol . I love that word

weak bolt
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Let Nori pick god damnit

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Brig gone

raw ermine
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nice

weak bolt
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Rein out

pale roost
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rein OUT !!!!

raw ermine
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L

outer zenith
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Reinforce...

weak bolt
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It might mean we see more dive next week

outer zenith
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Reaper and Mei, I hope.

weak bolt
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Reaper gone

outer zenith
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One down.

weak bolt
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Good week to be a winston

pale roost
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i liked my reaper dammit

weak bolt
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Ashe gone

raw ermine
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lul

pale roost
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nooooooooo i wanted echo xD

weak bolt
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Guess we will see Mcree vs Echo

outer zenith
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Well, Ashe being out is relatively inconsequential with Widow and McCree back.

balmy wolf
pale roost
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yea i agree with reinforce here . echo is gonna get busted quicly next week without a pocket

weak bolt
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Good week for Atlanta to run their double shield again

balmy wolf
raw ermine
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finally london plays

pale roost
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London let's goooo

balmy wolf
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VancouverTitans 화이팅

clear crane
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Titans!

weak bolt
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Love how quick they skipped over Titans

balmy wolf
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Titans haksal is god

true hound
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Haksal is god yes

weak bolt
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Apart from he's not playing for Titans any more lol

balmy wolf
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I think Korea became famous thanks to Haksal.

outer zenith
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Yup. That was all Haksal.

tropic herald
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Hero bans?

brittle compass
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need to be taken out to stop the game from dieing

true hound
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not really but ok

brittle compass
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that and role queue is what’s making all the pros leave

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wdym “not really”

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multiple people have said that everyone in owl hates them

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Teams are disbanding

upper niche
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Hero bans are not the problem.

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I mean look at it this way: One day, the game is in a state without this particular hero even existing, and they bring him in, and he's OP, and everyone picks him constantly... and then they have a complete sook when that hero is tuned back.

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That's the kind of thing we're dealing with with Doomfist, and Sombra, and to some degree Orisa except noones complaining that she's strong..

balmy wolf
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I mean i still believe sustain is a problem in this game

swift moth
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who realisticaly enjoys orisa

upper niche
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One single change would make a massive difference to that and teamwork in Overwatch: Remove the ability to see enemy health.

swift moth
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now hold on a second buster

outer zenith
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I swear, Sinatraa makes one mention of losing passion for the game around when 2-2-2 and Hero Pools were introduce and all of a sudden, "everyone in OWL hates them".

upper niche
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It's a skill in itself to force the team to coordinate attacks and track/figure out how much damage they've inflicted on a target. Most other successful fps games do not show enemy health.

swift moth
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ima be real I hate hero bans

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I think they were a mistake

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not because sinatraa said it

upper niche
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I like Hero Pools but do not think they've been implemented well enough.

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1-2-1 doesn't go far enough, take the pools out to 2-3-2.

balmy wolf
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it would be fine if they didnt based it off rank

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which their doing

swift moth
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hero bans means I don't play the game during a week I don't like the meta

balmy wolf
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but only for the rest of the season

swift moth
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I would rather always play the game

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I feel like every week is drastic

upper niche
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Well, hero bans are going away for Diamond and below soon so most people wont have to worry about them.

swift moth
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they should have done hero bans every season just like how they do maps

balmy wolf
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map pools was god awful

upper niche
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Map pools were done soooooo wrong.

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THey were a good idea implemented poorly.

outer zenith
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I think Hero Pools were a poor man's ban system, which is what is actually needed. However, it is a step forward towards that goal, if nothing else.

upper niche
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They shoiuld have been rotating across the season - eg, every week or two weeks, rotate one map out from each format, and introduce a different one.

balmy wolf
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2 months of the same maps is bonkers

upper niche
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That satisfies the goal of allowing people to learn maps effectively without having to learn eveyrthing.

balmy wolf
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map pools also had the shitty problem of 2cp maps being the majority pick mode

outer zenith
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How?

upper niche
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map pools were no more likely to have 2cp maps than any other format.

outer zenith
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Exactly.

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There were 3 maps of each type in a season.

balmy wolf
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that sucks

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which is why its good they removed it entirely

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expect for 2 maps

outer zenith
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You can like it or dislike it, but your statement was incorrect.

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That's all I made clear.

swift moth
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I think hero pools should change less frequently

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give the pros some time to understand and improve the meta before it cycles to the next one

brittle compass
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or

swift moth
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and also tell them the hero pools in advance so they can start scrimming for it

brittle compass
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just don’t have them

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nobody likes them and taking out characters for longer than a week would make people quit the game

swift moth
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I don't think ranked needs them but pro needs some way to not have a meta

balmy wolf
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there is always gonna be a meta

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however u dont want a stagnant meta

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like goats was or moth mercy

river kite
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We should just have vote map and vote ban ffs.

zinc holly
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what odyssey said

harsh turtle
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WHICH OVERWATCH LEAGUE TEAM YALL LIKE

zinc holly
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if they get rid of hero pools dont go complaining about stagnant meta

barren quest
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Metas that last for a long time

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Ex: Goats and Moth meta

tropic herald
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Until it happens

balmy wolf
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lol tanks comps for over a year is what would've happen without role queue

swift moth
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I honestly didn't mind goats

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I loved the way teams moved as a single massive player

ripe tundra
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nothing to see here

digital cloud
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there is a channel for that

tawny sigil
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goats started to be fun when shanghai started to rip through it

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222 hadn't come to owl at that time, shanghai could have won

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i still think removing stages was a mistake

balmy wolf
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I really doubt other teams could replicate what the dragons did against goats comps

tawny sigil
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no short term goals, its kinda pointless to watch, before i had a reason to watch every match

balmy wolf
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dragons 3 dps comp was perfectly tailored towards them and their playstyle

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if sigma came in without role lock I suspect tanks heavy comps would come back into the fray

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just replace sigma with dva and now u have more poke and a stronger ult with another shield

supple prism
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we dont even know if teams who were good at goats would have been able to come back and make the ball 3 dps another waste of time.

grizzled badger
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The fastest theoretical time for an OWL match is sub-15m. Someone put Boston in front of Shanghai or XL please. Thanks.

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I want to see it.

upper niche
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Shanghai would play with their food.

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Rmember when Boston won all 10 matches in a stage and Shanghai went an entire season winless? Boy how things have changed.

echo quest
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Talent swap

echo quest
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Fam is getting more viewers playing valorant than overwatch damn

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weak bolt
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and that is why people are jumping ship if they aren't in OWL

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the twitch potential at the moment is so much more

grave sail
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yh

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emongg and dafran havent streamed ow in forever

echo quest
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Dafran won’t go back

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Aside from yesterday man was enjoying valorant a ton

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And gets 7k viewers peak EU time

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Emongg just bashes Overwatch whenever his chat discusses it

weak bolt
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They'll play OW2 when it comes back I'm sure, but why play a game they've played for like 4 years when there is something new and shiny

echo quest
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It’s where the views are at

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Myth has become Relevant again

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With valorant

true hound
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yeah

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Plus seagull was streaming OW yesterday

tropic herald
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I’m not crying

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You’re crying

raw ermine
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omg

karmic grotto
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k?

echo quest
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Viol2t gonna switch over to Valorant

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When it becomes Mainstream in Korea

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KEKW

karmic grotto
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source?

echo quest
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Im just joking

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Also Greyy is likely gone

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From eternal

echo quest
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Sinatraa playing in a valorant tournament today

echo quest
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Bro wtf

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The tourney has puckett and goldenboy

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Damn

outer zenith
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As hosts?

karmic grotto
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nice

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what time

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do you know

worn falcon
karmic grotto
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thanks

tropic herald
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Also there’s a community cup soon

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Starts at 1pm PDT 4pm EDT

raw ermine
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They are doing some 1v1's RN

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Crimzo Vs Rapel in Zen

true hound
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ye

echo quest
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Jesus Christ sentinels are smoking their First game

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The other team aren’t even referring to him as Phoenix. Literally calling him Sinatraa

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The respect

karmic grotto
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where you see that?

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@echo quest ??

digital cloud
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where is the sentinels game?

echo quest
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Oh shit my bad

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Lmao

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Some of the games weren’t streamed

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So you had to look at individual streamers

digital cloud
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ah

echo quest
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The game already ended

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My bad for not seeing the chat

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Next game is brax vs sentinels

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@karmic grotto

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@digital cloud

tropic herald
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🤔

raw ermine
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He's part of 3rd impact

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The best NA contenders team

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could be signed to Titans

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Zholik, who is the MS for the team, is giving us the 👀

tropic herald
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Also note the commmuntjy cup today with T2 teams

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Doesn’t have Third Impact

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I think I see something

clear crane
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Its Third Impact

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According to Halo

karmic grotto
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holy shit

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HOLY SHIT

raw ermine
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It do be like that

karmic grotto
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YES

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YES

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INJECT IT IN MY VEINES

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finally

tropic herald
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Or we are just getting trolled hard

karmic grotto
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Seeing Decod in OWL

tropic herald
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Idk much about ta1yo tbh

raw ermine
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or that

karmic grotto
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he says fake news to not give it away

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still want to be a surprise

raw ermine
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Halo is rarely wrong, and Decod says big things are happening

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So I would imagine its this

karmic grotto
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Yeah

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taiyo is trolling

raw ermine
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If it is true, would it be the first Japanese player in OWL?

karmic grotto
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I have not heard much about him, but I've heard from players that he is really good

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@raw ermine yes

raw ermine
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yeah

tropic herald
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Third Impact would definitely mop the bottom half of OWL

raw ermine
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He's on loan from another team tho

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idk how that works

digital cloud
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sign Harb

raw ermine
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maybe the contract terminates for both teams

tropic herald
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Honestly if TI is getting brought up Titans would be in a better place to win games

karmic grotto
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^

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Playing from NA

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third impact also has synergy

tropic herald
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One, Decod Icy is a nutty tank line

karmic grotto
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so that's great

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it's like runaway

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going straight to owl

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but this time a whole na contenders

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But he saying

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he isn't picked up

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ta1yo

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hmmm

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:/

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We will see

tropic herald
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Lmao

clear crane
raw ermine
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lmao

karmic grotto
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lmao

tropic herald
raw ermine
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yeah

hidden vault
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Lmao shit is about to go down

tropic herald
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I’ve had notifs on for Vancouver’s twitter

raw ermine
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does this mean 3rd impact the team disbands?

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sad if true

karmic grotto
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they will disband

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then signed as titans team

tropic herald
digital cloud
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seems quite confident

raw ermine
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damn

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so is ta1yo

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still think they will be signed

karmic grotto
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they're trolling

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also, suspucious third impact players are reacting so quickly

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almost as if they're together

digital cloud
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le gasp

hidden vault
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Halo said have signed, how would the players not know

raw ermine
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He wants to make it a surprise

karmic grotto
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but

raw ermine
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unless Ta1yo didn't get signed cause of complications with his loan

karmic grotto
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taiyo is loan

raw ermine
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and not told, which would be unfortunate

karmic grotto
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so titans can buy that contract

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they have ez money

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or halo is straight up trollign

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and he will stop being "journalist"

hidden vault
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Yeah but halo is so sure to place his job on the line

tropic herald
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Hasn’t he put his job on the line before

hidden vault
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And was he correct?

balmy wolf
raw ermine
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so it's confirmed

true hound
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o

balmy wolf
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basically

raw ermine
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an old coaches says so

balmy wolf
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rip titans

karmic grotto
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yes but

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what about ta1yo

balmy wolf
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trolling or left out

karmic grotto
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he's loan from another team

balmy wolf
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what team

karmic grotto
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but assuming he says ti as whole

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they bought his contract from that team

balmy wolf
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hes probably trolling

tropic herald
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Huh

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That’s the monster that looks like a Titan

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Or at least the logo

sullen berry
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and is it any wonder that we can't see more of these setups - there isn't much more to it

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it's less than 1m apart from the backdrop to their desk

clear crane
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So if it really is TI, their first two games are against WSH and FL. WSH is a nice matchup to ease into the league. The FL game is also good to see how they match against a middle pack team. But hard to base off 1 week and esp with hero pools. The week after I think they get Philly

balmy wolf
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So they beat WSH and lose to FL

raw ermine
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oof

clear crane
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wow

balmy wolf
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based of TIs tweet i think hes correct

clear crane
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That's pretty unprofessional. yikes

balmy wolf
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Unprofessional from halo?

raw ermine
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He legit is leaving tho

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his profile doesn't say OW any more

clear crane
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Yes. Never confirm something unless you have 100% proof. That's like the base line of proper journalism

balmy wolf
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I mean his sources probably told him it was 100% then realised they were wrong and corrected themselves

raw ermine
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and the definition of confirm

clear crane
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I still think its TI

tropic herald
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Considering certain TI players tweets which happened before Halos tweet

clear crane
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But this reminds me of the MYKL days haha

balmy wolf
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fuck MYKL

tropic herald
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He’s the second best tracer doe

balmy wolf
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please say thats a joke

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he started up kungarna in fortnite and i think its been just as bad

karmic grotto
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Whatever happens, I'll still be leaving OW.

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lmao

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he's a fucking joke

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only wants attention

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can't even leak good

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bring back mykl

digital cloud
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mykl?

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why would you want hi back

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him*

balmy wolf
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^

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let him stay in fortnite

tropic herald
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It’s a meme

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Chill, we shit on him for saying he was good at tracer

digital cloud
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ah

balmy wolf
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@tropic herald his tracer? just as good at his contenders teams?

tropic herald
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Also

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Community cup taking place now

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On Fran’s Twitch

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Support T2 :)

heady wharf
digital cloud
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community cup looking good

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is that a whole contenders team though?

raw ermine
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What did Mykl do that made kungarna part ways w/ phase 2?

tropic herald
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Third Impact Discord

swift moth
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wait so the titans are straight up yoinking a team from contenders

balmy wolf
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yes or this is a giant meme

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@tropic herald

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dm me an invite to that pls

karmic grotto
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One man caster show

clear crane
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prob fake

raw ermine
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I hope its impact

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Vasta doesn't even have a page on liquipedia

balmy wolf
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Jebaited

clear crane
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yea its just ppl prob meming after halo's tweet

raw ermine
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good

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Helv is the MS for raspberry racers

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they are in contenders europe, and so are Vasta, so maybe he chose a random team from there and did this? idk

karmic grotto
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Making fun of halo

worn falcon
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ill be sad if they dont pick team doge

karmic grotto
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Third impact is also good

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So yeah, we will see

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Aren't they gonna play this week?

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They need to make fast decision

worn falcon
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theyre gonna sit with Outlaws and Uprising

karmic grotto
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Lulw

tropic herald
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I’m enjoying this tournament

jagged crater
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hiko sent sinatraa back to OW with that 1v4 play
Good lord

tropic herald
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Playing Winston into Torb Ashe

echo quest
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Sentinels Feelsbadman

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T1 is got smacked by a French Canadian team

raw ermine
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Who is the sentinels fifth?

balmy wolf
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Babybay

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Taimou leaked it

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See

raw ermine
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I saw the 🅱️ entinels, but I meant RN since they are in a tourney

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but I found out now

balmy wolf
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It makes sense Babybay used to be a counter strike player

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Babybay was banned from csgo

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That’s why he came to ow

tropic herald
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Babybay isn’t the fifth

raw ermine
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Would confirming him being a sentinel member mean a contract is signed? Cause I am pretty sure he played in a game after the tweet

tropic herald
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Dizzy is a more likely candidate

raw ermine
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a OWL game

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so he would have 2 pro contracts at once

tropic herald
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Considering that Dizzy is the 5th person playing with Sentinels in a Valorant tournament

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And that picture happens to be an old one of Babybay

balmy wolf
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You think it’s a troll?

tropic herald
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Yes

balmy wolf
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Babybay has been posting valorant clips

tropic herald
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And?

balmy wolf
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I feel like it’s likely he’s going to want to move over

tropic herald
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He might but he’s not sentinels 5th

worn falcon
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:(

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finally

tropic herald
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They are going to get shat on

balmy wolf
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I’m excited to see titan’s roster

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WHAT if they ALL play in Korea?

tropic herald
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Honestly if Titans signed TI that’s be a W

balmy wolf
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we have been seeing fielder and lullish play remotely in Korea

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200 ping

worn falcon
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shush, they havent played in a long time in League

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:*(

tropic herald
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Fielder is a new player that I enjoy

idle beacon
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wait

tropic herald
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Cuyo, Chengdu will take a shit on London

idle beacon
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sentinals

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is a valorant team?

tropic herald
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Yes

raw ermine
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lull was playing?

idle beacon
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or what is it with bbbay?

raw ermine
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sentinels

balmy wolf
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You think it’s possible the compromise in the team is to play remotely?

raw ermine
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It's the team Sinatraa went to

idle beacon
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he leavin ow aswell? Oo

raw ermine
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left

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he is gone already

idle beacon
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ye that i know. but whats up with bbay?

tropic herald
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Nothing

balmy wolf
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I was just speculating with Babybay

idle beacon
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ok

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some tryhard henry cavill lookin dude he is

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but tbh, wouldn't be surprised if he'd also leave OWL for valorant

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sinaatra was fedup with all them changes

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and he's not the only one

balmy wolf
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Doge is actually a pretty good team

idle beacon
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anyway. i came here to ask what sinaatra's last game was. been watching some OWL vods on yt

raw ermine
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it was one of the LA Valiant ones

balmy wolf
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I love that the finals for frans tourney is doge v Scion

solemn magnet
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How bad did doge beat the other team

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Was it 2-0?

balmy wolf
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2-1

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they lost well

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Scion won’t run monkey

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As long as they play a good map for Rein they’ll bounce back

raw ermine
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There's the bracket

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they 2-0'd 2 teams and 2-1'd 1

balmy wolf
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rein sig comps uwu

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Honestly, I would like to see doge picked up for Vancouver

tropic herald
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Except not all of doge is 18

balmy wolf
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Oof

tropic herald
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Anyways

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Go Team Doge

balmy wolf
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Ojee is decent

tropic herald
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Scion is going to get #stomped

balmy wolf
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The tank line is real good

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Wasn’t Finnsi in owl?

tropic herald
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Yes

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Was on Paris and Valiant

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Honestly I hope Titans pick up TI

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Would be the best Na contenders team to grab

balmy wolf
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Ti?

tropic herald
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Third Impact

raw ermine
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Yeah

balmy wolf
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Wasn’t decod a Rein player?

tropic herald
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Is a rein player

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Doesn’t stop him from playing other tanks

balmy wolf
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I was just curious I remember his name

tropic herald
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TI is stacked

balmy wolf
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They only have 6

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They have a loaned dps?

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Everytime I see wannab I think of wanted

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Both mccree players

tropic herald
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TI might be 6 players but don’t let that fool you

balmy wolf
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Scion is popping rn

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Why didn’t third impact play today? Their pharahmercy tourney?

raw ermine
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They might have been signed to Vancouver

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so they are uncontracted

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with TI at least

balmy wolf
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WAIT did a player leak it?

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He’s on the roster

raw ermine
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Their were a bunch of conflicting posts by players and leakers

balmy wolf
#

The team leader

raw ermine
#

Decod said something like "big things are happening"

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Zholik says stuff like this

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Ta1yo denies joining the titans

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The leaker said that VT are looking for contenders teams to sign

echo quest
#

GenG won poggers

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Also Babybay is trolling lmao

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That pic is from September

idle beacon
#

it was one of the LA Valiant ones
@raw ermine what did mr. won play?

tawdry scarab
#

in any tournament, the players can use dolby atmos option? or 7.1 software?

tropic herald
#

TEAM DOGE

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LETS GO

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#STOMPED

idle beacon
#

@tawdry scarab if ur using a stereo headphone, go with dolby atmos. if ur using some 7.1 software and 7.1 headphones, dont go with dolby atmos

#

dolby atmos in overwatch is emulating the surroundings ingame

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like if you'd be using > 5.1 dolby surround software / headphones

tawdry scarab
#

it curiosity, if the tournaments the players can use the 7.1

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i tested but sound very bad

idle beacon
#

if they're using dolby atmos with 7.1 hps .. well then they're plain dumb

#

the freakin game even tells you to only use atmos with stereo headphones

#

it doesn't sound bad

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maybe a bit .. dull

#

but thts because it's emulating the enemy behind you .. without a freakin dolby surround setup

tawdry scarab
#

i said OR, not necessary the 2 things on

but tnx for respond my question

idle beacon
#

lol switched through tv channels .. halo4 on tv. is that about the game? 😄

ripe tundra
#

how much do OwL players get annually

digital cloud
#

50 k minimum, iir

#

iirc*

echo quest
#

Ye

echo quest
#

Calvin May be coming back to OW

#

Poggers

hot heart
#

Wait what

#

Really?

#

I remember watching calvin clips in freshnuts every day dude

#

He's so good on mccree

karmic grotto
#

@echo quest source?

proven cloud
#

yo wussup

karmic grotto
#

no

proven cloud
#

yes

echo quest
#

@karmic grotto On his discord he does QNAs right. And he said he will be streaming soon but won’t stream valorant. He also said at the end of one of animal crossing streams that he will play it time to time. That only leaves MW Or Overwatch as FPS games

#

Unless he decides to play non fps games

hot heart
#

Why would he return to OW rn

#

It he did tho it would help OW a bit with all the streamers leaving for valorant or retiring

echo quest
#

Calvin plays whatever he wants tbh. Like the dude was pulling 20k viewers playing fortnite but he still went back to OW

balmy wolf
high basalt
#

lmao current situation of Vancouver?

balmy wolf
#

no news yet

hidden vault
#

who is Andante lol

#

there's no such player?

weak bolt
#

Titans assistant coach

hidden vault
#

ohh damnz

balmy wolf
#

TI changed their discord logo back to the normal

swift moth
#

have the titans released any more players?

raw ermine
#

no

#

check the twitter whenever you want to know

balmy wolf
#

chances of the TI rumour being true?

swift moth
#

guess not

karmic grotto
#

huh?

raw ermine
#

They want a NA contenders team, and TI are the best

karmic grotto
#

luminosity

#

HARBLEU CONFIRMED

raw ermine
#

hmm?

karmic grotto
raw ermine
#

what?

balmy wolf
#

luminosity is a shit org

raw ermine
#

Halo said that TI was one of the teams Vancouver was looking at

swift moth
#

way is everyone marketing harb for titans

#

I like harb idk if he is owl level

raw ermine
#

He probably is, or at least contenders

#

His only sub optimal character is DVA, tho

#

which could be a problem

karmic grotto
#

Not per se, icy can play dva, so you have him

#

just put the player for their role they can play

#

flex tanks?

true hound
#

lmao I was just about to say “what if they signed harb”

karmic grotto
#

I mean

#

They can

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For PR

#

he has pro experience, massive PR on Overwatch communities worldwide

#

As harbleu said, he will consider going pro if someone makes him an offer

#

harbleu also plays in NA

#

win win situation

#

Would be like ChipSa on Fusion

balmy wolf
#

Luminosity wont pay for harb

karmic grotto
#

?

#

They pay him, he's a streamer for them

balmy wolf
#

Not as a player

#

he would cost too much too them

#

Harb wants to play

karmic grotto
balmy wolf
#

Harb doesn’t need to financially but he has the competitive itch

karmic grotto
#

^

balmy wolf
#

not walhat im saying

#

LG wont sign him to titans bc his salary would be too high for them

karmic grotto
#

Wrong, The Titan players were one of the highest paid players

#

And TI isn't like Runaways, so they can save themselves money

true hound
#

^

balmy wolf
#

I would really like to see harb signed

true hound
#

they got new contracts and got paid a lot

#

ik

balmy wolf
#

He deserves a shot in the league

true hound
#

he’s a good guy and a good player

balmy wolf
#

I mean im not wrong , they refused to invest into R6 because it cost too much, and they were payed alot less than titans

karmic grotto
#

R6 is not the same e-sport, we're not talking about them ...

#

Stay on topic

balmy wolf
#

Um the topic is luminosity with the money? They are tight on spending rn, they wont pay for a player like harb

#

If titans go full NA roster, I would eye up cloneman16 as a main tank

#

If I could spend whatever, I would try to take hydration again from Outlaws

#

Since he hasn’t been playing and he’s a fantastic player

karmic grotto
#

@balmy wolf it's not. Also you seem to be saying mixed things. Luminosity is an gaming org, not the Hockey league org of Canada that is backing up the Titans

#

While yes, you are right

#

They're not the ones behind the big picture

#

There are people who think they're a shit gaming org

#

And they're not the ones having the big bucks

#

They were active 3 years ago and they barely had earnings from winning

#

The gaming org operates the franchise, but Canucks Sports & Entertainment owns the team, thus the ones with the money

balmy wolf
#

Titans won a shit ton of money

#

It’s worth the investment

echo quest
#

Pretty OWL team owners aren’t happy with their investment rn

balmy wolf
#

They almost won a million dollars last year

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950,000$

#

Most people didn’t get much back out

#

Those who won though are happy

#

The dragons only won 250,000 last year which is better than some teams

#

Their roster now is star studded

true hound
#

yep

karmic grotto
#

Well to be honest and state as a fact

#

that the big owl teams have so much cash that a mere 20 or 40 million buy in isn't much

#

On the other hand, yes you want to receive revenue

#

And they know it's difficult right now with quarantine

balmy wolf
#

I understood the organizations perspective with wanting their players to play NA.
I just wish they respected the player’s reasoning

#

It’s still possible to see this current roster play Saturday

#

Two players in the league so far have played remotely from Korea

#

At like 200 ping

karmic grotto
#

Even if teams don't make much out of owl, selling merch and tickets will do the thing

#

the orgs backing them teams up earn mad cash by other things

balmy wolf
#

In game skins

karmic grotto
#

as Comcast being big providor of internet etc... nyxl owned by mets, uprising by robert kraft group

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etc....

#

spark with bilibili

#

20 million is nothing to them

balmy wolf
#

So season 2 of the OverWatch league, zacharee was one of most hyped up players on the fuel.
Everyone always dunked on him all season...

#

You think he’ll have a chance for redemption this year?

#

Doha has the flex dps on lock it seems

true hound
#

pretty much

#

the Doha Decay duo is too strong

tropic herald
#

Why would you put Zach in over either player?

karmic grotto
#

zach beat linkzr in mccree 1v1

#

lulw

bright cape
#

lol

raw ermine
#

Zach was a Hitscan more than a projectile, but the Fuel made him their flex cause they had like, 4 hitscan

#

It didn't go well for him

tropic herald
#

Tbh I don’t even remember him playing any of the advanced projectile heroes

#

He was playing heroes like Brig and Hanzo

#

And Hanzo was basically a hitscan

true hound
#

@karmic grotto rip actually

#

bruh

#

I remember when Linkzr was considered one of the best

karmic grotto
#

he's washed

true hound
#

right next to Taimou & Flow3r

#

sad

#

he doesn't seem interested in the game anymore

#

just streams valorant a shit ton

echo quest
#

F

balmy wolf
#

what;s the best team rn

raw ermine
#

in OWL?

true hound
#

Dragons

raw ermine
#

Fusion

tropic herald
#

Dragons

swift moth
#

hard to say since the meta changes every week

tropic herald
#

Shanghai shuts out teams, Philly takes so many teams to map 5

#

Also Stan LeeJaeGon

balmy wolf
#

SHD and Sanfran are head to head rn

true hound
#

Eh

#

Dallas took shock to a map 5

solemn python
#

Burn blue!

balmy wolf
#

dallas is a disapointing team

#

it's literally seoul but texan

barren quest
#

Dallas has been doing fine

#

Seoul hasn't been doing very well

#

They uh got 3-0'd by the Dragons, Charge and Spark

balmy wolf
#

They didnt even get a point vs charge

sullen berry
#

last week seoul played like the houston outlaws of the pacific division

#

not terrible players, but the team's performance is going to jump back up once they're back in form

#

we're still waiting for seoul to be in top form consistently

weak bolt
#

Dynasty sand bagging so they get more matches in the tournament and can win more $$$ clearly

balmy wolf
#

Boston Uprising doesn’t have a bad roster

#

I really hope their coaching staff invests more into them

#

Myunbong, Fusions, Jerry and Colourhex are actually their best players

weak bolt
#

Boston needs 2-3 more players, to give the team motivation/competition, and some variety

balmy wolf
#

I feel like they’d benefit with more players
They need another off tank and maybe another support to help give ease to the support line

#

I enjoy what the shock and Reign do with their tank lines

#

Not counting the reign’s recent performance

weak bolt
#

New off tank, a dps who can play Mei, 1 support

true hound
#

dallas has honestly been doing good

#

but just when my boys in Houston are looking good they just do something dumb again

#

ahem ahem not running fucking Hackfist and forcing the mirror

balmy wolf
#

Dallas actually has a main tank who synergizes well with their roster

weak bolt
#

Gamsu/Note look ok, but I think once teams learn to shut down decay more, Dallas will be mid table

true hound
#

yep

balmy wolf
#

OgE is good just he never fit in playing for the fuel

true hound
#

dallas is not trash but they aren top tier i guess

#

though, that shock match was bonkers

#

so god damn close

weak bolt
#

Imo shock had a rocky start but will bounce back hard. I suspect they went in expecting to dominate again this season

true hound
#

yup

balmy wolf
#

Super/smurf has to be the best double main tank usage on a team

true hound
#

and then they got taken to a map 5 by the fuel

#

shock just has an insanely stacked roster in general

#

only if houston utilized their good roster

weak bolt
#

Super is a rein 1 trick really, lets face it

balmy wolf
#

Super can play monkey well

weak bolt
#

Dynasty/Rein look best at the double shield metas

#

reign*

balmy wolf
#

His Orisa wasn’t bad in the World Cup?

true hound
#

super bad

weak bolt
#

Super's orisa is ok, but nothing special, his monkey is average too. Monkey is that teams weakest main tank

balmy wolf
#

Smurf is just the go to for Orisa

#

It’s similar to Vancouver titans, stage 4 Tizi did a really good job filling the main tank role

true hound
#

super permabenched

weak bolt
#

Shock's fortunate in the fact that tournaments/finals don't have hero pools

balmy wolf
#

That’s good ngl

weak bolt
#

So they can run their ideal setup in those and dominate. They look very dodgy without Lucio into some metas

balmy wolf
#

The finals for a game everything should be on the table

#

Whats the deal with Titans?

#

haven't been keeping up with OWL but I heard some drama happened with them

weak bolt
#

They moved to Korea after Covid, the management want to move back to Canada, the players didn't

#

Management said tough, we're going back. Players said Bye then. Titans signing new NA based roster

#

Majority is 'rumours' at the moment, but very very likely

balmy wolf
#

Ant news on titans

#

Like who they're picking up yey

#

yet

#

or still nothing announced

tropic herald
#

Who wants a twitter thread with a bunch of hot takes on OW and competitive OW

#

Ngl actually agree with some of them

weak bolt
#

some, but not many

swift moth
#

is he the dude who duoed with redshell and through games with a soundboard but still won

weak bolt
#

yeah

balmy wolf
#

not a hot take

#

its facts

weak bolt
#

Depends on your opinion, I prefer 2-2-2 by far

#

I think dps players hate 2-2-2, support/tanks much prefer it

balmy wolf
#

I love 2 2 2 because it lets everyone play every role

#

And not only be forced to main one role on an account

swift moth
#

hi

#

I play fill but mainly support

#

2 2 2 is god awful :)

balmy wolf
#

2 2 2 made the game less toxic

#

Inherently

#

The quality of matches skyrocketed

swift moth
#

dps is my least played role and I still find 2 2 2 to be significantly less fun than old comp

#

like when the old comp came back in arcade I just found it so much more fun

#

@balmy wolf 2 2 2 kills comp for anyone who wants to play fill

balmy wolf
#

?

#

Just queue all 3 roles

swift moth
#

it takes me 3 times as long to climb, 50% longer for placements, and im stuck on one role per game

balmy wolf
#

I wanted to play hanzo/mccree on in low masters but I refused to. Since the SR was so high and I would be basically ruining the game for everyone else

swift moth
#

make an alt

balmy wolf
#

If my dps is only diamond level and I decide to hop on another role it wouldn’t be fair to my team mates

#

I did eventually

swift moth
#

thats how I played dps before role queue and thats how I got good enough at dps to play it at my main rank level

#

and also by far the most infuriating thing for me in 2 2 2 has been watching people fail spectacularly at my "main role" (support) and realize I can do jack shit about it

#

like yes it did stop 5 dps comps but it also made the game a bit less carriable, since you can't swap roles midgame

weak bolt
#

I think it just stopped DPS being able to stomp some games because enemy team had 1 support or 1 tank you could overrun. Having to solo heal or solo tank was horrific in OW

swift moth
#

I honestly didn't mind solo healing

#

it put more pressure on you which meant you had to make smarter decisions, since if you fucked up there was nobody who could cover you

weak bolt
#

True, but it also meant if the other team were smart in any way, they'd just kill you asap and then you'd lose every fight

#

and some healers (e.g Zen) are not suitable for solo healing at all

swift moth
#

I still enjoyed it a lot more, maybe if they implemented a request role swap system, or something like that I might actually enjoy 2 2 2 more

weak bolt
#

Ability to swap roles mid game could be ok, but it'd probably not work due to SR

karmic grotto
swift moth
weak bolt
#

True. Going back to that guys hot takes, I don't get the whole Contenders > OWL Teams logic

#

If an OWL team is playing a contenders team, they are probably not overly trying, or trying new stuff to not leak the strat to other owl teams

swift moth
#

I think certain contenders players are really good but I don't think they can stand against the top owl teams

#

besides boston

weak bolt
#

I could see top contenders teams maybe beating 2 or 3 OWL teams in scrims sure, but in a proper match where stuff is at stake? I doubt it

#

Or they have an Underage player who is carrying for them, and its a moot point as OWL team could never have that player

echo quest
#

Role Q is pepega for me

#

But is needed in other ranks

tropic herald
#

@weak bolt top contenders teams have scrimmed even mid table and low top teams with good records

#

Just cause you got an OwL contract doesn’t mean you’re immortal

weak bolt
#

Sure, but its Scrim bucks again

#

owl teams have nothing to lose in scrims, contenders players/teams are playing to try get recruited

tropic herald
#

I don’t think you understand though

#

Teams like TI are dicking on middle of the pack OWL teams, consistently in scrims

#

And just Bc you have nothing to lose in scrims doesn’t mean the losses should be thrown away

weak bolt
#

Guess we'll see if T1 get picked up by Titans

tropic herald
#

If you have a losing record it’s still a losing record

#

Not to mention bottom teams don’t even get scrims with contenders teams

weak bolt
#

I think Contenders players/teams generally care about scrims far more than any owl teams will. Remember when Xepher was dominating scrims for Florida in S1

tropic herald
#

Waiting for Vancouver to update is more

balmy wolf
#

OWL teams are made with contenders ones. There are plenty of examples where ex-Contenders teams or players have rolled on experienced OWL teams since their 1st match in the competition. OF COURSE top tier Contenders teams can beat most of OWL teams. But maybe mostly Koreans.

raw ermine
#

Apparently Activision-Blizzard got a 1.79 Billion dollars in revenue this business quarter, which maybe could be put towards tier 2. Not all of it, but me have some hope

karmic grotto
#

Bruh

#

Gotta "help" blizzard move some money to T2

raw ermine
#

👀

tropic herald
#

Waiting for more community tournaments like the FOCC Bc it was really well done and actually very fun to watch

weak bolt
#

I think we'll see more sporadic tournaments over time really, rather than any league system

balmy wolf
#

titans need to hurry up and announce this

karmic grotto
#

Super said they have a new squad

hot heart
#

Bruh

balmy wolf
#

let make three three a thing again

raw ermine
#

super gets a 2-3 second cameo

#

still is cool

raw ermine
#

Jihun of the London spitfire will be active in 2 days, as it is his 18th birthday

#

He is, supposedly, London's equivalent of Ameng

#

His best heroes are Ball and Orisa

karmic grotto
#

interesting

hidden vault
#

Nice?

karmic grotto
#

F

tropic herald
raw ermine
#

omg

tropic herald
raw ermine
#

yep

#

Jehong is becoming an Off tank????????????????????

#

Are we going to get fissure on 5 teams now?

tropic herald
#

That’s all their players too

true hound
#

wowza

raw ermine
#

yeah

#

The im has ploded

karmic grotto
#

Third Impact or Team Doge

#

here we come!

tropic herald
#

Or Second Wind

raw ermine
#

wait

#

NVM

#

I lied

#

jehong isn't becoming an off tank

#

Apologies

worn falcon
#

Im ready for Team Doge

raw ermine
#

I thought haksal had a team???

#

Why did he post this

worn falcon
#

was a rumour

#

nothing confirmed

raw ermine
#

Yeah

#

I guess all those leaks were a lie

worn falcon
#

the team imploding wasnt a lie tho

raw ermine
clear crane
#

So Jehong said on stream he's taking a break. Guess he really might take the rest of the season off

worn falcon
#

this is the opportunity for Outlaws to get Fissure

#

and drop Muma

#

if they had money

raw ermine
#

I was wondering if Jehong would do that

#

It makes sense

sullen berry
#

oh shit oh fuck

raw ermine
#

I checked the twitters of everyone on the team. They either didn't exist, or they made a post like this, or it was private

worn falcon
raw ermine
#

The realest Cryminsoo

worn falcon
raw ermine
#

now he might not have a SMS pic for his next team

clear crane
raw ermine
#

Best course of action tbh

tropic herald
echo quest
#

FUCKKKKK

daring sapphire
#

jesus

hot heart
#

well

balmy wolf
#

so yeh its now vancouver impact

daring sapphire
#

question is, who they gonna pick up before saturday

hot heart
#

Im not surprised

balmy wolf
#

TI

daring sapphire
#

was third impact even confirmed?

balmy wolf
#

by their tweet today id say so

worn falcon
#

does boston have monies to hire ex-Vancouver?

daring sapphire
#

buncha people were saying otherwise tho, dont know who tf to believe rn

hot heart
#

Sad thint is they mentioned that they dropped fissure

daring sapphire
#

actually shocked senseless that its led to this

hot heart
#

Not mutually parter ways

echo quest
#

@worn falcon nope

hot heart
#

He mightve stayed

echo quest
#

Mayhem should get slime

daring sapphire
#

this is only going to further fuck the mans rep

#

not only was this his fourth team but he was let go while everyone else "mutually parted ways"

hot heart
#

Yeah

worn falcon
#

Outlaws should get Fissure

daring sapphire
#

jesus

balmy wolf
#

no

hot heart
#

I feel bad

balmy wolf
#

outlaws shouldnt

hot heart
#

Tbh

#

Fissure could play at the top level ez

balmy wolf
#

could he? his mentality on other teams has proven otherwise

daring sapphire
#

fissure is top level

hot heart
#

Bruh his mechanics

daring sapphire
#

but it's reportedly his personality that makes him difficult, his mechanics tho

hot heart
#

Are tucking insane

daring sapphire
#

without a doubt are top

hot heart
#

And hes smart too

echo quest
#

Muma is ass

hot heart
#

Wouldnt say Super smart

echo quest
#

Fissure is miles better

daring sapphire
#

he's an insanely talented player and i hope he clicks with a team some day

#

but this isn't a good look rn for him

balmy wolf
#

Muma is ass, but fissure wouldnt be a good pickup, considering whats happened

hot heart
#

Fissure on defiant

daring sapphire
#

yeah outlaws is dangerously close to being mentally boomed rn i feel

hot heart
#

Beast is ok

daring sapphire
#

fissure wouldn't be a good pickup in their current mental

hot heart
#

But they need a char

balmy wolf
#

fissure wwont go to a mixed

hot heart
#

*chad

tropic herald
#

People still saying Fissure is a drama queen

#

Smh

echo quest
#

Titans really broke up runaway

#

Fucking slime and Twilight freeagents. Imagine

tropic herald
#

Fissure was an issue on one team

balmy wolf
#

now has been in 4

tropic herald
#

Titans failed RunAway when Titans became the villain of OWL

worn falcon
#

Fissure didnt had problem with titans, if you see he was rleased

#

he could stay in Titans, but was released by the org

#

all the others were parting ways

daring sapphire
#

@worn falcon apparently he had a special contract stating he couldnt leave until his contract was up

echo quest
#

Haksal to spark

daring sapphire
#

that's what im hearing rn

echo quest
#

Only way it was nullified if Titans released him

tropic herald
#

If Fissure goes to Outlaws

daring sapphire
#

he signed a contract saying he'd complete the season due to the issues he'd have with other teams

tropic herald
#

What a timeline

#

He had issues with one team

balmy wolf
#

@worn falcon thats the thing, he got released, he didnt "mutually" part ways which looks bad on him

daring sapphire
#

forgot how many it was, one does sound correct tho

echo quest
#

Jehong Feelsbadman

tropic herald
#

Please stop trying to act like he was a problem on all his teams

worn falcon
#

what? on him?

#

Thats on the org

daring sapphire
#

yeah sadly the public perception wont see that as a whole

true hound
#

Fissure on outlaws yes please

#

Im sorry Muma but

echo quest
#

Said going to the titans was a selfish decision and now he had to leave

balmy wolf
#

He was angry in spitfire, he wanted to play
He refused to play for LAG in playoffs
He retired from Seoul , showing he didnt have the mentality for the game or the league
And we dont know about titans

tropic herald
#

If any one of these players stay as FA that’s a crime

echo quest
tropic herald
#

Spitfire, was him getting no playtime and getting pruned, LAG was obviously him, Seoul was him being burnt out

#

People just want to twist the story into Fissure being a problem

balmy wolf
#

I mean its not a good look when hes been on more teams than anyone else

worn falcon
#

plus Fissure acknowledge his problems and wanted to put effort on Titans

tropic herald
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It’s not a good look to make a false narrative on someone

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But here we are

worn falcon
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^

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Everyone on the team has to get picked up

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Only reason they wouldn't is it a team doesnt have any money

daring sapphire
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dunno if some of them will even want to play after this shitshow

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*if

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Lets hope so

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Especially Jehong

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I really feel bad for him

tropic herald
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Jehong said he’s taking a break

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The guy could be a coach

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Oof

balmy wolf
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i dont think jehong will wwanna play

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Well

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Imma be sad for him

daring sapphire
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ye he was one of the ones comin to mind PepePls

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But like for the rest of the team

balmy wolf
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he looked mentally boomed after seouls exit from playoffs i think just ends his time in ow

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They probably still wanna play

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Imagine it Boston pick them up

tropic herald
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Off tank

worn falcon
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yeah, shitty management

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balmy wolf
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i mean titans are owned by luminosity, no?

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No

tropic herald
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Partners

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Wait huh

raw ermine
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jeez

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double hated now

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Okay now to the interesting part of this discussion

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Who are they picking up?

balmy wolf
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third impact

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You’re crying

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Rumour

balmy wolf
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giving their tweet id say 90% sure its them

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right after titans release