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Well, the "meta" didn't work. Will Houston stick to their guns or are we going to see them actually play what they know.
i dont think it will do better but it has more chance to get something
their win condition is forcing dive
from what weve seen dive is meta but shock just wanna do shock things
that's the only way they win
I think they'd get more done with something like Sombra/Doom/Lucio/Moira/Rein/Sigma. Be mobile, have shields and push them hard
sigma gets FUCKED
Winston would just get shredded
You're forgetting, this is Muma we're talking about here.
Dives in? Stunned, Halted, burnt down
oh ok
Brig
muma: eviscerated
brig is always played against dive in the mirror
he knows what to do
the stuns dont play in much
It's not a matter of if he'd do well enough. Rather, we KNOW what Muma won't do well on.
and also without meta and in a perfectly balanced game with players even too dive beats poke so you never know
lmao
harsha: muma is shit but hes houstons baby
harsha: orisa jail
Wonder how many Houston fans would love a Fissure signing
lol Fissue wud prob retire before going houston
It's just like how everyone was imagining what team Bumper was going to go to.
I think its all korean team or bust
Ashe/Tracer time I guess
Operation shut down Rascal
If they can shut down Rascal and keep Striker a bit more in check, they may be ok
lol at memeing on Kephrii
wow
Focusing Beam.

That beam is so going to be nerfed
just make it fixed damage through all hp percentage
not freaking 200% under half health
I'd say either nerf it to 100% under half health and 200% vs shields, or make it any targets under 33%
lol wtf the window stays up too
I love Rascal tapping into his Flex Support roots.
Do Zen next plz
I bet this game booms Linkzr and he retires in the next 2 weeks
Moth on Zen? 😮
I'd imagine he'd just go streaming, but I guess depends how much money his houston contract is
ahh we lost broadcasters
F
I await the inevitable TwitLonger.
Casters died
Did they just run two superchargers in a single Echo ult?!
Or did both Echos clone Orisa
Both echos cloned orisa
Holy crap the number of Bongos going down.
I think Danteh earnt 2 bongos on Echo, not sure how many Rascal got
i guess casters decided it is after 1AM in EU, so they need to be quiet
not to wake up any sleepers
Yeah. Hex didn't want to wake anyone up from their 4PM naps.
So I'm hearing the whole of Vancouver Titans left?
Only Jjanu & head coach confirmed so far, but most rumours point towards whole team left & signing new NA based team
It's more about the vast number of pro and T2 players/teams pulling the pin on OW overall.
Vancouver just pulled nuk
Ah yea. enough to have Jon put out a public statement
lets see if they actually make any changes
I can't see Blizz investing much, maybe just a pool for community run tournaments or similar
yes, i know all the "mental health" talk etc, but i think at least for now, many are making a mistake when they are jumping ship at such early stage of Valorant
but it's their money, so what do i know 🙂
Those jumping ship, 99% of them were not earning much/anything from OW anyway
Go to Valorant, hope you/stream pops off, and you become something good
@weak bolt we talk about the pros leaving OWL
Lol u can't say that about sinatraa tho
Only 1 Pro has left OWL for Valorant so far
"officially"
He was also a benched player this season as he'd lost interest in OW
Yea
Is the casting now a few seconds before the video?
youtube video in general desync's all the time (for me)
refresh worked for me
yeah, but refreshing every few minutes is annoying 🙂
stream does a dejavu and that pushes the audio out of sync by few hundred ms, repeat and after few "dejavu's" it is second or two off
The game audio seems ok to me, casters just seem 1s or 2s ahead to me
yea they spoiling
Brig POTG lol, how
o look its sinatraa
Rascal looks good on Echo, but we have to expect Chipsa will be 2x as good
great coach job .. compensating the lost power of sinaatra
Have the games today been good
One match was a sweep, but ATL/LAV was pretty good
poor houston
Didn't count the asian ones
this map is pretty poggers am i right my fellow peepos
Asian region games = The early morning games
you mean the ones at 3 am?
yeah
how dare
its 3am for me right now!
neat
u russian, trioxide?
finnish
oh
smh
lol 1am here too, but I consider these late night games, and the Asian region games as early morning
7 pm
wait .. finland is 1hour infront of the rest of europe?
Houston actually drew a map with that comp. That's a win to me.
like uk is 1hour behind?
i guess
ye
.ru is large again asf
usa fat 😎
how many timezones do they have?
Russia lookin kinda thicc tho 😳
LOL
best antihero after logan
Hmm do I want to wake up at 9am on a Sunday to watch Dynasty vs Spark
yes
i like staying awake till 3 to watch my boys lose against Seoul
I'm just hoping NXYL get Chengdu'd
NXYL would crush HGS
NYXL did look strong for 2 maps today, and then really bad for the other 3
ye
I did love all the WhoRU, WhatRU jokes on the reddit
Moth popped off as Zen earlier lol, best NA flex support now 😄
what's the score?
Bob is carrying
Bob MVP
Wtf I thought shock lost that point lel
Rawkus just stands there with 10 hp with his back to bob lol
Jecse must play nearly 0 Zen I guess
The chat spam
Well if the pattern of the weekend continues, Dynasty vs HZS should be a 3-2 game, and then NYXL Chengdu a 3-0
Honestly, I have the feeling HZS are going to pull something off
Dunno what what I just have that feeling
did reign seriously got reverse swept?
well decent games today
the NY vs Dragons was amazing to watch live
Atl got reverse swept yeah
Stan LeeJaeGon
LAV adapted to the comp at half time, and then ATL just kept trying to do it
oh and seoul got dumped on so hard
their loss against charge was the fastest game in OWL history
Faster than even the Boston Florida one?
Lol there's another Boston vs Florida match tommorow
WTF is this Reinforce having like a 3 second delay and Moth having none 😄
does anyone know when the all star weekend begin this year???
At the end of the season
Hopefully Kruise can help toronto do well against LAG
Monster tracer
Decay needs a k/d for 4.7 for them to win
given that he stuck a LOT of zaryas with personal
LeeJaeGon for rookie of the year
"My most proudest achievement in life, is that I've played as many OWL games as ChipSa, a professional OWL player."

question: watching nyxl vs shd .. some broadcaster was saying that nyxl was facing the first non-NA team. what did he mean?
i thought all teams are in NA ?
AND .. SHD 9-1 now. when did they start dominating the season? 😮
For a while now
ah yea now i remember
they won a stage
and fell again
but they dominate season3 since it started?
@gaunt acorn
aren't they on spot1?
9 wins, 1 loss
and well, not dominating but being top notch atm
the rankings don't paint the full picture since some teams have played way more than others
but yes they have been especially good this season
were there alot of lineup changes in shd?
i can't remember the s2st3 lineup atm
wait
FLETA @ SHD ???
why didnt he play vs nyxl. he is a strong dps player if i remember correctly. being a strong pharah and a proper widow in dynasty. no?
also there is a serious amount of rematches since a lot of teams cant play each other
what do you mean?
Lag
@idle beacon they flipped the schedule since home stands have been cancelled. Teams have been split by location and playing matches with each other more in the past few weeks
So it's impossible to see a matchuo between San Francisco shock vs shanghai dragon in the regular season
Regionally Asia division is now 7 teams
NA 13
so i did understand it correctly when a broadcaster was talking about nyxl playing against an asian team
then again, i thought they all are in the usa, in appartments or team houses?
Most of the players went back to Korea for various reasons - visits, visas etc. And then found it hard to travel back and forth between the US.
They were there for the early matches being scheduled there.
I think you may over-estimate how many European citizens are actually participating in OWL.
atleast 10
Exactly. And youy'd be lucky to have >1 on any one team
is soon and .. what was his mate's name .. unkoe .. in france or still in the us ?
Smh
Now let's start from your first question
i thought they all are in the usa, in appartments or team houses?
@idle beacon
Team houses aren't really an option if your home base is in China, but GZC/HZS/SHD players are mostly from Korea
Chengdu is the only team in China because their roster is 100% chinese/taiwanese
All I know is that Charge are cooped up in a hotel together and have been doing fairly well as of recent: ||taken out Vancouver 3-0 and Seoul 3-0|| given their setup is a bunch of rented out desktops
I think Vancouver's stint in Korea was a failure, as most of the players seem to be under a lot of stress and we're responsible for their setup without any training facilities
atleast 10
@idle beacon there's actually two European teams in the OW League.
20 players if your talking EU reps
At the bottom of the page you see there
@upper niche just checking did you estimate based off France and the smaller countries? Turns out there still is 20 players before you exclude any leavers midseason
the EU players. are some of them also back home or still in the US ?
What is this may tournament thing
For what
The May Tourney
Morning Morning
So this isn’t for the normal competition
Nobody can counter HANZO'S NANZBOW
GOD DAMMIT I FORGOT HOW AWFUL THE FRENCH VANILLA IS
MISTAKES WERE MADE AND I'LL HAVE TO WASH IT DOWN WITH APPLE WATER
But maybe i'll find better beans
🤔
it really is awful
French Vanilla coffee, it’s pretty bad
depends
I had some that was GODLY
And the K cups I have lying around are stinky
lol
I wonder what this Sombra/Echo is all about. I didn’t expect the two to have much synergy
Double scout
That's what I can gather
FUCK YEAH MAKE ME PROUDER BOYS!
c9?
CUZ MY BOYS SCORED!
Echo players are probably practicing playing main tank just so they can do better with that duplicate
YOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
well shit....
TAKIN THE W!!!
YO FUCK YEAH THESE BEANS TASTE FUCKIN A
Lmao these goons
AND POINT 2 GOES TO HANGZHOU!!!
Wait Charge what were you gonna say?
Mercy’s banned this week but I wonder if she’d be run in this comp, and over who?
fidk
Lucio/Mercy doesn’t seem very reliable, Zen/Mercy doesn’t have much AOE healing, and Brig/Mercy... it’d be unusual
Tom jones intensifies
I mean if the sombra can prioritize hacking a nearby health pack then the damage amp could maybe be viable on the echo
ye
Pair that with discord orb and focusing beam and it seems pretty powerful to use on tanks
Oh yeah that as well
damn ye
I've always wondered why zarya isn't played tho?
Like grav sticky bombs is stupid strong
And the bubble can let echo get her ult (in duplicated form) with more aggression
THANK YOU THOUGHT
I Love Guxue
Gux is bae
He's the funniest Winston to watch by far
Did u see him RKA profit midair?
I thought he was gonna focus the backline
Nah
Props Primal and launches himself at the echo
Dirty stun on the EMP
gg
Seoul has lost their soul PERIOT
gg
WHAT THE FUCK?
i miss jehong
anyway 3-0 NYXL
I was pessimistic about theis
제홍아... 보고싶어 ㅠㅠ
Cheers man
lmao see ya my dude
Okay gang
Looks like this is going to be an early night
3-0verwatch returns in 60 seconds
Yeah it's a wild time to be jumping into this season
New hero and causing meta shifts? Imagine that
Totally new
And the people screaming her ability is OP on live are being drowned out
Because these matches are looking pretty entertaining
Ashe got little to no play time when she made it to live start of season 2
The meta didn't require her at a time when hero pool was a thirsty request to stop goats
Sig had plenty of stage time
and the OW team did exactly that
He was a major player in the playoffs
So it's no surprise I'm seeing signs of teams unable to work Echo's kit into their team
Chengdu 3-0verwatch
lmao
also I spilt my BEANS
im a bit angy
anyway
Anyone here also map Lucio's Crossfade to the mouse wheel?
Nah I change it to hold down to activate boost
one fear
We're going to see a sad matt morello tonight
if chengdu win this i say we destroy all the power rankings
lmaooooooooooo
mond
But hero pools this week means they are safe from ameng's might
SFAJBEOWKJBF
LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOo
CHARGE I LOVE YOU AS A BUD BUT NO
it's too cursed
ye I'mma get ti sleep
that was nuts!
A draw fam
is this a clown fiesta? Without a wrecking Ball? Just a paper plane lady who cosplays other heroes?? 😲
@vernal ruin its alright you said what everyone was thinking
what's up with seoul?
Seoul keeps using the same comp that doesn't work
Profit isn't very good on the Echo
And the coordination is just lacking
Well he's not the worst at echo... he just struggles with tanks a little...
A little
Sinaatra is gonna kill OWL

oh f
V. Good
Gotta have to do the research yourselves to know why though. Just what I've seen from Contenders VODs with GC Busan Wave
It says something about the military, and the word years, so I assume he is going there.
Oh swon
팀의 기존 메인 서포트 LF.Nus선수는 신중히 고려하여 구단과의 우호적인 협의를 거친 후 오버워치에서 다른 종목으로의 전향을 결정하게 되었습니다. 선수의 좋은 출발을 기원합니다! https://t.co/RixAKo1nIv
Put it in the twitter translation machine
He's wrapping up 4 years of overwatch and retiring to do what you think he's doing
it says he is "going on to another sport" so prob valorant but idk
Military service being is way out and not returning to pro gaming for a while
it was a translation again
Sounds like a pretty distinct miscommunication error
One is "I'm quitting overwatch after 4 years to focus on mandatory military service"
ahhh
The org is definitely saying something else hmmmmm
Look Nus should have asked if he could join Seoul Dynasty for one last shot
Because nobody can explain why Profit has not looked so great or if it was anything to do with gesture / bdosin from spitfire looking scuffed this weekend with a new hero
any predictions for the second half today?
Florida 3-0s Boston again
fusion vs paris 3-0
florida vs boston 3-0
toronto vs gladiators 1-3
about what I was thinking
eqo has probably been grinding echo as ivy has cemented his place as the teams mei
ChipSa Echo
Carpe overrated
Eqo outdated
Long have we waited
ChipSa activated
cough he is on the team due to nepotism cough
Do you really expect the scores to hold up after what you've just seen from Asia matches?
Fusion v Eternal is the hardest to predict of the three
The other two? Could be a toss up once we see their echo play
Why is sinatraa 7th place NA if he quit overwatch
I don't think Fusion is going to let themselves lose after that one time
and the rest is just based off of
it is Boston
If Colourhex on echo is no good, Uprising is unsalvageable for the rest of the season
Blase?
he is on Houston
Toronto is also pretty bad right now
so, I don't see them beating Glads
Kruise won't be much help but surefour probably
Does anyone know?
know what?
it's a fake account
Ah
wait so kruise isn't on toronto?
Why wouldn't he be
you said fake account
ah
Why is sinatraa 7th place NA if he quit overwatch
@brittle compass okay where did you find that start?
You lost me until I found your original question
Oh I see
Diamond in levels so it’s the real one
I think he gave it to his teammates or something
That's account sharing
and Choi’s isn’t in the top500
Which has been very hit and miss on who gets fined tbh
isn't smurfing also supposed to be something they don't do?
and yet everyone knows they do
Blizzard's position on smurfing is there should be no problem
Because they would be matched up with the right players
do they not know about throwing?
Juul420
Can't be SR manipulation if its just a low level account
Their matches should be in line with players at their rank eventually
So that forum post from Jeff Kaplan hasn't aged well
they never thought, "hmm, I wonder if they will try to stay in low ranks intentionally"?
1,418 votes and 463 comments so far on Reddit
Surely not, we need the sales from people making multiple accounts - does this look like an MMORPG?
what he described isn't smurfing, it is leveling up an alt account
there are most definitely gms stomping on lower rank
ranks*
I hear it happens a ton in diamond and masters
You can't dodge the topic any better than this though
He addressed a specific definition of Smurfing
And stuck with it
like, I am pretty sure I hardly ever run into smurfs
maybe once or twice, but I am in gold
I doubt they get too much fun from destroying us
diamond and masters, though, I am told is filled with it
I moved to pc like half a year ago, and am farely skilled on characters that require game sense over mechanical skill
got a lot of accusations when in reality this was my first pc account
probably the account being named sleepy didn't help
I feel like tho there is a distinction between alt and smurf that people don't keep in mind. on ps4 I had an alt that I used to teach myself dps, becuase I wasn't able to play it at my sr
is ryujehong dying his hair the color of the french flag a sign or is it just a coincidence
I mean, smurfs don't affect me personally, I think, but I know some people enjoy throwing games to stomp on the low ranks
I don't know how to fix that other than reporting, but the other stuff, if they are just trying to alt account to gm or whatever, that is normal
rjh wearing titans jersey on stream... https://www.twitch.tv/wpghd321
he is mocking us
i dont know what is means
hes not officially transferred
I mean, there is so much speculation the team is falling apart
this suggests to me he is having a bit of fun with the speculation
any news on titans
chipsa not playing 😔
F
Damn fr? Shocker
lmaooo
Will be interesting to see Kruise playing for TD
he's a much better lucio than Kellex
fla v bos will be a VERY close game
I can see TD winning though if Surefour is a god on Echo
Surefour? You better believe it
@lyric cliff now this is esports
Heesu in for philly over carpe
Fielder er
being fielded in for Eternal
Starting roster reveals on watchpoint are wild
cant wait to see echo banned again
Wow brig in with echo
ye
carpe not playing
chipsa professional bench warmer
lulw
carpe not playing gg
If I had a dollar everytime chipsa should be played today
fusion losing for the first time cuz no chipsa
How did the 1 million subs promise go?
TORB
hmm
seems like they changed the ui a bit
look at the ult charge meter
or maybe im seeing this wrong
they did
its just the first map
Paris trying not to surrender in French
nothing is sure
Don't have to give it their all on the first round
It gives them a better read or call their bluff
free chipsa
Not appreciating Heesu smh
oh
Name a better duo than Sado and setting up on Oasis library
chipsa and a bench
Boston and "We have terminated the contract of ___"
if philly go against bos then they might play chipsa
Houston vs Outlaws
omg imagine that lmaooo
FDGOD had the perfect barrier and IVY died and got his ult cancelled
Still lost the fight
eqo 
LOOOOOL STILL No CHIPSA

and boombox!
E Q FUCKING O
Well this is a sneaky flex
My boi
CHIPSA ON SUICIDE WATCH
where is C H I P S A
who is heesu?
I'm quite pleased with this outcome.
I have a bench, where's yours?
buffering until 18
heesu is quite good tho
Heesu is from Runaway 2.0
Haksal stitch and seominsoo are runaway 1.0
Heesu ahh wait
when we finally get boston vs Philly we get chipsa
Come on eqo
this lineup is ridiculously strong
Good duplicate
we won't see phili vs shd, right?
This man has been sitting on the bench this whole time, rubbing his hands together like Birdman. EQO
We wont

Harvey EQO mmmm
how is the stage final gonna look like then?
agansy rach other
lul
amazing
EQO on having more play time than Chipsa: good try
Good try pog
@idle beacon nothing confirmed yet since we still have this may tournament and the rest of the season to complete first
fined
Good try
alarm lucio? Yes
philly colors are the same as the owl logo
Ez dub for Philly
alarm invented the dictionary
@sullen berry ok. thx
alarm invented alarms
F
Alarm invented the M2 button

Provided they find a way to overcome the regional isolation of the teams thanks to the crisis, the plan is, and always was, to eventually have all teams play one another in the regular season. That's how a League with Divisions works, and that's exactly how it worked last season.
ooh this is sort of a rematch / revenge match for phili? 😄
^
eternal won 3-2 over phili in march
It's a trilogy now
Eqo having playtime warms my heart <3
philly vs paris is sort of a rivalry
they're playing against eachother the third time this season?
chipsa havin playtime warms my heart
its just philly slowly becoming better ngl
Chipsa would have more play time if he was more wholesome like EQO
yep
oh wait
Eqo: good try
this update was so garbage for hearthstone
for a solid 100 games i only played against demon hunter
since when are they making so many commercial breaks with blizzard games?
since they have a lot of sponsors
is it crunch time
no, pringles wavy
Damn control felt like it lasted two EQO duplicates
still no Chipsa?
Or one akm blade
better
That reminds me I have hour
Philly died like 3 times
I was hoping Eternal can make a fast reverse sweep
Or let me see how mayhem echo skin looks in a match
Nico can’t play Echo
3-0 FLA
Just completed outclassed



4 long weeks
sdb ain't seeing any playtime, eh?
xD
what do you mean, he's gone
Couldn't save him...
ok, then liqui isn't up2date
hes retired if i remember right
No, I mean, he's gone, gone.
he's long gone
No, I wasn't referring to you.
does fragi see any playtime in charge?
.....
with that stuff generally theyre pretty fast
a what?
hes not on a team any more
All these cod ads
BIG YAWN
Does the cod league advertise OWL KEKW
I'm feeling sleepy too all good
ok.. so liquipedia ain't a proper source at all
yes it is
Huge yawn
theyre all right and ive checked it
Daydreaming with Bread and Slideshow
you aint reading it right
Daydreaming about Bread and Slideshow.
what

what
@idle beacon sorry to hear mate some of those team liquipedia pages are correct most of the time
look at his instagram
It's the new trend bro
The Israeli Inquisitor is too good
all the ones youve said are right
dyed his hair eternal colours
i swear
nooooo
🇳🇱
rip chipsa
thats netherlands

lockdown makes us doing weird things
@gaunt acorn thanks for posting
thats the netherlands flag but eternal colors
orisa attack for nyxl and philly now, just for halt combos i assume, looking for picks on cp
paris eternal = netherland eternal ?!?!?!?!
Jehong packing up for season 4
New expansion team confirmed, with all of the previous Titans players.
The Netherland Erthals

whats this netherlands meme about
Runaway buys titans and resigns everyone
Imagine seeing him lie down
ultimate power move
And he doesn't remind you of France
Lie down like this
He doesn't know
Jehong wouldn't know but he will
I blinked and just noticed they're running nosmite
Gg gl next rematch
can fury calm down pls
lmao
what a fucking fight
Overtime cap 🧢
where's poko?
2CP and Echo.
at home?
Quality sado stagger
This is the world we live in now.
everyones at home
Poko in an emergency meeting with the French Mafia
FURY
i mean in france
AGAIN
lol
nah
hes in america, he lives in the team house like the rest of the team
nico??
Yeah, fury has eaten all of Soon’s pulse bombs this map
A successful Visor?
you cant run the games if you have your team all over the world

soldier isnt bad hes just bad
Bren is so thoughtful.
SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOON
SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOON
I think the finals cast with Bren and sideshow this season would be goddam entertaining
Tracer planking

Even production says no

Soon lul
Soon pro hitscan player LMAO

Oh no smite just pogged my chimps
huge primal
Fusion management are marketing geniuses.
It's great, doesn't kill the vibe
What a GAMER
trill lulw
Last time I felt that from an Ana player, He still was on Seoul Dynasty
c7
yikes
Wew
I mean, Twilight definitely did things for me last season.
Chipsa9
imagine fielder on LAN or when he plays in NA
I'm going to have to watch the VOD for the rest of this match
they want to win
You think you want ChipSa, but you really don't.
We just got a real match.
he is in us
Success in the making
fusion teamhouse
Incredible.
nosmite
nice potg
Unbelievable.
Unfathomable.
best potg ever
That would have been a fun POTG to watch
is fielder in korea currently?
Yes
this is beyond science
Philly 3-1
why they playing him
Paris just got lucky
200* ms
Paris 3-2
No
i mean hes doing great but
I want another clutch soon
Okay, if we're not going to see the POTG, can we at least watch Soon's fall one more time?
No way paris wins this
fusion lose cause no chipsa
0
Nico and FDod going to play like a madman to keep this uo
Chipsa professional bench warmer
how do they add captions while its live?
It's auto generated?
Also Google has really pushed automatic captions
Live captions on Android 11 Hype
It's full sentences, not word for word
Oh well that's a live caption trick
visible confusion
Google knows your location, your identity
it creates the subtitles from what the bot hears and its not very good unless someone is speaking very clear english
CoD mobile, lol
?



is gonna win but GO




