Doesnt say much does it
#esports-discussion
hot heart
silk frost
can I not send images here
severe swallow
Christ
silk frost
wtf
severe swallow
that
halcyon surge
no u can't apparently
severe swallow
that was painful
silk frost
bullshit
silk frost
I'll put the thing in fanart
halcyon surge
im hoping we continue getting dive meta with echo and tracer
silk frost
idk where to put it nvm
hot heart
I wonder what philly are doing
silk frost
just chipsa things
severe swallow
probs fucking shit up
silk frost
WTF IT WON'T LET ME SEND IMAGES ANYWHERE
hot heart
Isnt even playing
silk frost
I sad
silk frost
can you send images
halcyon surge
no we can't
hot heart
Nah
severe swallow
nope
hot heart
Only for regulars
silk frost
this is dum
hot heart
Pepehands
raw summit
host it on imgur and then send the link
hot heart
You can send links
halcyon surge
calling out sideshow
hot heart
Bro i swear theyre always coming after platchat
halcyon surge
lmao
hot heart
Sideshow and bren are running for the god damn lives
silk frost
"THIS TIME YOU HAVE TO GIVE ME ATTENTION SENP-I MEAN PLATCHAT"
severe swallow
Wanna see a Rover Gijinka?
silk frost
final map let's go
hot heart
See now im sad@sterile fox
severe swallow
MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM
sterile fox
ok
silk frost
DDING GET THE FUCK OFF ECHO YOU DUMB ASS SHIT
sterile fox
do you have a personality except for liking nyxl
silk frost
yes they do
dreamy cave
liking atlanta
silk frost
they love nyxl
hot heart
See
silk frost
oh. you're one of THOSE.
dreamy cave
he has a problem with champs
sterile fox
dude what the fuck
hot heart
WhoRu is just wasting ults man
dreamy cave
its okay, we got this
rapid locust
the NYXL are in the postion to test strats
halcyon surge
put in libero
halcyon surge
libero better tho
dreamy cave
libero is not their echo player
halcyon surge
bro he can learn it
sterile fox
thats not how it works
rapid locust
the coach probably wants whoru to copy the sombra to test strats
dreamy cave
he cant learn it right now this fight
dreamy cave
if hes not ready to play echo in league then hes not ready
hot heart
@severe swallow you loosing your mind lmao?
sterile fox
pretty sure hearing birds is normal
dreamy cave
LETS GO WHORU
hot heart
I think he means stream@sterile fox
hot heart
I think im gonna end this conversation here
sterile fox
sbb the man
severe swallow
@hot heart nah it's 5 am where i am lmao
rapid locust
did they scare shd into overreacting?
sterile fox
what the FUCK
dreamy cave
ima be honest, i kinda figured this map wasnt gonna go nyxl's way, but all we can do is hope
sterile fox
yo boys just got pummeled for 2.5 maps so we gotta wait this one out
dreamy cave
BIG SAD
sterile fox
jjonak legs a fucking gorilla
sterile fox
jjonak dont need nobody's name
rapid locust
what
halcyon surge
rip OBSmoira
sterile fox
i once again despise sombra
wet obsidian
oof
sterile fox
if this is a reverse sweep im shitting myself
tight kestrel
Two Brigs new meta
sullen berry
Last map last match for today
balmy wolf
genji ???
dreamy cave
LETS GO NYXL WE GOT THIS
balmy wolf
nvm tracer again
dreamy cave
balmy wolf
used alot of ults fort oen fight
wet obsidian
mano??
balmy wolf
meka base will be much better
rapid locust
mano hard feed
balmy wolf
yeah , they lost because of that .
sterile fox
im done
dreamy cave
COME ON NYXL
wet obsidian
wtff
cosmic plume
oops wrong team
wet obsidian
rippppp
rapid locust
rip
dreamy cave
well get it next time
balmy wolf
That's a yikes
tiny slate
Reversed
severe tusk
that last half was appalling from NY
tiny slate
Mano threw that
severe tusk
at the end, yeah
tiny slate
Yeah
severe tusk
but wp by the dragons, i can’t fault them, they were the better team
in the last half at least
latent meadow
i want to cry
NYXL is a choke-fest.
Roll hard enough to get reverse rolled
also mano fed busan map 1 wth 😦
sullen berry
Just don't support one team in isolation
They fked with the wrong neighbourhood
But as an org
Better decision to distance themselves from New York
See I didn't think ANDBOX would be able to save face like that
Why couldn't Vancouver 🤔 🤔 🤔
mighty dust
weak bolt
Has there been any more info on titans? I found it interesting Jon Spectre talked about players retiring over Covid, seemed like a hint
severe tusk
im both a shanghai and nyxl fan but their collapse was just heartbreaking
latent meadow
i only support NYXL mainly because it has/had my fav player like Pine, sbb, JJ, meko, flow3r, libero, Aek and Nenne
upbeat ivy
It really was
Waking up at 5 for that
At least we destroyed SF Twitter today omegalul
weak bolt
then super boomed NXYL twitter lol
weak bolt
The social media battles are better than the OW a lot of the time atm
weak bolt
At least one match today wasn't a 3-0 for a change lol
clear crane
Damn... I really wonder whose behind the nyxl twitter account 😅
crude flicker
What’s the format for the May tournament
swift moth
so have the titans said anything
tropic herald
I’m not in their discord but since a few days ago it’s been radio silence from their Twitter
swift moth
yeah I've been monitoring it
rare magnet
hold the fuck up https://twitter.com/TorontoDefiant/status/1256584782466691077
raw ermine
woah
rare magnet
this is nice
quick yarrow
rare magnet
who cares who cares u dont care i care
rare magnet
this is the esports channel of the ow discord ppl here propably care
tropic herald
Good pickup
balmy wolf
Now, who to replace him? Paris need a full healers set
fdgod and greyy are enough imo
short sparrow
lyric cliff
Soooo me and my friend are gonna start an owl podcast and dunno how we can be original. Do we just do whatever other owl podcasts do or try to be different? Also hi I don't talk much here 😂
crude flicker
Just be yourself and talk about headlines you think are interesting I guess
Also originality over copying
crude flicker
Surefour seems like a leader to me tbh
He’s pretty vocal but maybe not in owl comms
weak bolt
Apparantly not, I think he prefers to just do his own thing rather than try lead others
crude flicker
Ah I guess he’s different on ladder streams
weak bolt
yeah
weak bolt
Curious if Paris are going to pick up any of the titans supports now, they're down to just 2 now
lyric cliff
Okay call me weird but s4 fans are like kpop stans
Say anything bad about him they go berserk
weak bolt
I agree, they are a unique fan base
lyric cliff
They also are delusional
They call him best hitscan player
And say nobody even comes close to him
weak bolt
Imo S4 is washed, I'd not be surprised if he jumps to Valorant
swift moth
im a big fan of him :(
lyric cliff
There's being a fan of a player while having common sense and being a delusional fan
It's like Lebron fans in the NBA
swift moth
like s4 is my favorite owl player and the only reason I watch toronto games
lyric cliff
Do you say he's best hitscan?
swift moth
I say hes one of the most consistent
he gets out shined easily by someone like decay/carpe but he rarely gets butt fucked
raw ermine
Carpe, Diem, Happy, xzi, etc
swift moth
I dont think he has the clutch potential of some of the other players but he can get a few big kills every fight
weak bolt
Hitscan is too wide of a spectrum imo
lyric cliff
Surefour kinda chokes ngl
weak bolt
Best Mcree/Widow? Potentially ANS
weak bolt
Best Tracer?
lyric cliff
YES ERROR
true hound
SBB, Kabaji, Decay, etc
raw ermine
SBB, Profit, soon
lyric cliff
Striker?
raw ermine
yeah
true hound
There are a shit ton of good tracers
raw ermine
striker too
swift moth
kabaji? why kabaji?
weak bolt
Most of the Widow/Mcree players don't play Tracer for example
lyric cliff
Best Pharah
true hound
@swift moth kabaji is an amazing tracer player
true hound
also, Asking is an extremely good hitscan
lyric cliff
Dding doesn't even get to play her
swift moth
hes great in ladder but i dont think hes the best
true hound
However he ditched OW for Valorant after OWL buttfucked him
weak bolt
I don't think you can really consider streamers as 'best' its a totally different world vs owl
true hound
Individual skill wise, there are some that can make the cut
lyric cliff
Best reins are super, Mano, fearless
true hound
For example, AimbotCalvin
weak bolt
I'd say Benbest is up there on the Rein side, just not on anything else :p
true hound
they’ve obviously not played in a lot of pro settings, but skill wise, some streamers are up there
raw ermine
He is good, just really annoying to some ppl
lyric cliff
Super is super entertaining
swift moth
no, but making fun of him is entertaining
lyric cliff
And a cool dude in general
swift moth
hence the 4head meme
true hound
5head shatters
weak bolt
I'm just glad nobody said Muma
lyric cliff
Viol2t is the most huggable Shock player
Viol2t got so drunk he kissed Sinatraa 3 times 😂
true hound
M U M A
swift moth
wait what
weak bolt
What we need to know is who is the best Echo player
lyric cliff
It was they night before Jay left
swift moth
me
lyric cliff
Viol2t was drunk asf
true hound
“I can’t wait until players like SDB and Sinatraa play Echo” - Jeff
guess that ain’t happening Jeff
true hound
yes
raw ermine
yikes
lyric cliff
And he was like "jayyyyyy I loveeeee youuuu"
lyric cliff
Sinatraa in World Cup
weak bolt
I was disappointed last night, 2 of the most hyped players seemed pretty awful at Echo. (Profit/WhoRU)
echo quest
Sinatraa gave viol2t some homie kisses
true hound
lmao
echo quest
Ngl. It’s poggers seeing Sinatraa have so much playing valorant glad he made the switch
When my boi Calvin gonna stream it
lyric cliff
Jay is just doing what makes him happy which is all that matters
echo quest
Faex
echo quest
Ye Ofc
lyric cliff
Okay good lmao
lyric cliff
Do they go back2back?
tropic herald
Isn’t Echo in play now?
tropic herald
Nice
weak bolt
yeah, She was played last night in asian matches a bit
lyric cliff
She wasn't played good 😂
weak bolt
Nero played it quite well
lyric cliff
Cause hero is projectile jesus on a good night
weak bolt
and Dding wasn't bad for 3/5 maps
lyric cliff
If you could have one owl player as your best friend who'd it be?
weak bolt
Kariv, he seems so wholesome
swift moth
kariv because kariv agilities are a package and you get 2 for 1
lyric cliff
Sparkle tho
sullen berry
@lyric cliff le toucan podcast has arrived 😄
weak bolt
Sparkel is like an over excited puppy, it'd be fun for an hour then drive you mad
tropic herald
sullen berry
come banter with me in vc, I'd like to know more about your podcast ideas @lyric cliff
lyric cliff
@sullen berry homie I'm on my phone staring at owl twitter on my computer 😂
And also wondering why my shoes are on the wrong feet
lyric cliff
You can Dm me if you wanna know more about it
sullen berry
done
true hound
did someone say Sparkle
sullen berry
I've watched this VOD three times now
no good has come from it unf vs Seoul
waiting for the replays to come out
sullen berry
nonsense, this is Kruise's redemption arc part 365
he'll go in wallriding and backcapping like no other
clear crane
Plot Twist: He came in as our new Genji player with Agilities benched
clear crane
my best memory of him was that video of him slamming his mouse after a loss
raw ermine
He's passionate
clear crane
I wonder who plays Echo for the teams today. Only one I'm prob confident of is Rascal for Shock. and prob Doha for Dallas
digital cloud
until Hog and Ball rolled them
grave sail
i think if they took it more srsly they could of won but they were never gonna do that
digital cloud
I preferred Harb's team by a mile, personally, but I was surprised they got destroyed like they did
digital cloud
to be honest, I was a bit surprised
grave sail
but xqcs were just messing around
digital cloud
Kariv, sure, but Danteh and Jake outperforming Sleepy, Rascal, and Super?
and Avast isn't exaclty bad either
grave sail
they were
grave sail
they did
heres a screenchot from liquidpedia
or not
cant post any pictures
check there
digital cloud
this is not accurate
well, it is
but there were more games prior to these
these are just the final rounds
digital cloud
so the rounds prior to this were like heats?
grave sail
yh basically
true hound
there wasnt much synergy on Super's team
super will have it with Rascal
but Super was playing off tank
xQc was kinda autopiloting
meanwhile Harb's team knew what the hell they were doing
rugged yacht
I'm watching the shanghai vs NYXL replay and they went to map 5
otherwise Dallas vs Washington, blow out match, will start soon
digital cloud
Dallas ez win
marsh pumice
so overwatch league doesn't stream on twitch anymore?
calm holly
Where have you been lol
marsh pumice
oh just googled it
yeh distracted with other games, but love to watch some ow esports
raw ermine
The matches haven't started yet
marsh pumice
i mean to be honest i like that it's on youtube instead of twitch
marsh pumice
yeh
ebon aurora
they're working on it though
marsh pumice
that's what i was thinking, no more drops
rugged yacht
I don't need to finish this to realize dragons reverse swept New York
ebon aurora
yeah that match was amazing
shanghai are the ultimate redemption story
it's awesome
rugged yacht
Props to dragons and whats happened to new york?
ebon aurora
in what way?
they took the best team in the league to 5
not sure how that shows New York are imploding?
balmy wolf
Shit happens
marsh pumice
so this is not lan match, does that mean cheating is a issue?
rugged yacht
I see Shanghai as #2 and NYXL has that reputation that put them as at least #5. This game reminds of houston
ebon aurora
nah Shanghai is definitely #1 atm
they've beaten 2 really good teams in the last 2 matches
true hound
we'll see until fusion vs dragons
rugged yacht
^^
ebon aurora
Philly have only played NYXL as a top team
yeah fusion v dragons will be hype
is that on the next 2 week's schedule?
marsh pumice
to be honest i started playing valorant and the way they are handling cheaters is pretty intrusive but i love it, hope the gaming industry takes this as a standard
dreamy cave
bruh
ebon aurora
Predictions?
marsh pumice
dallas will win
ebon aurora
I'm going:
3-0 DAL
3-1 ATL
0-3 SFS
dreamy cave
DAL 3-1 more like it
dreamy cave
i wont be surprised, but you will be
rugged yacht
Dal has their shit together and if they take one they'll keep their eyes on the prize
ebon aurora
I can see Houston maybe getting a map off the Shock
but I'm still going 3-0
ATL - VAL could definitely go map 5
I've not been that convinced by Atlanta
ebon aurora
good teams are exploiting it
barren quest
Dynasty got oof'd
rugged yacht
I don't even have charge in top 10 but those results speak numbers
ebon aurora
I think charge are underrated
they're not spectacular but all the bits of their roster are solid
also eileen ruined fits on the sombra
rugged yacht
haven't heard that music in a hot minute
rugged yacht
Yeah i don't always get here on time
ebon aurora
fair
rugged yacht
side note: Dallas Fuel account dropped hearts in youtube chat
I think Washington and Houston need a break. 11 games while some are at 6 still...
next mesa
jjona's sleep on sombra was so insane
next mesa
dude
raw ermine
the sleep out of EMP
next mesa
yeah
ebon aurora
oh in the Shanghai match
rugged yacht
that was pretty dope
ebon aurora
yeah I saw that, great communication
rugged yacht
decay carrying as usual
digital cloud
yeah, but the post did kind of ignore the quality of the video on youtube
I don't mind too much, but the video is basically lagging just like a video game would be
and the audio usually isn't great either
that could certainly have been addressed
marsh pumice
quality is still far from what i was used to
hope they change this fast
~i mean youtube is great for vods but needs tweaks for streaming esports like this super fast game Overwatch
rugged yacht
I'm too simple for this argument
next mesa
sym??
marsh pumice
echo is meta, is it broken on this pro league?
digital cloud
so far, the teams have not run her too well
true hound
cree & widow are pooled
when cree & widow are there honestly shes only gonna be used for her ult
most hitscans are gonna delete her instantly
especially with her fat hitbox
digital cloud
even with a mercy pocket?
rugged yacht
Dallas said: consume
raw ermine
LOL
rugged yacht
Couldn't even touch...
deep wolf
i wish they'd show the POTG
rugged yacht
mood
outer zenith
That was harsh.
rugged yacht
💙
outer zenith
At least open the door when they knock.
rugged yacht
I need more echo type: brig
rotund sail
hex calling out moira
elfin venture
raw ermine
^
rugged yacht
do y'all play this week?
rugged yacht
would be nice to co-stream from youtube and twitch...
digital cloud
bUt ExClUsIvItY
rotund sail
yt needs to implement a way for owl tokens
rugged yacht
tbh
digital cloud
according to the reddit post, that will be in a few weeks
rotund sail
yt isnt good for streaming
marsh pumice
yeh awesome for vods but streaming still needs some tweaks on this fast paced games like ow
rotund sail
im on my ps4 so i cant change it
tawny sinew
Ok for real what happened to stratus?
outer zenith
Justice's 2 - 8 record is what happened.
rugged yacht
switched to 1080 and almost puked at the difference
rotund sail
i wanna see the toilet bowl again but with uprising v justice
sullen berry
stratus can chill on the bench too
rotund sail
he can sit next to chipsa
royal bone
#1 Pharah in Overwatch/DPS for UMich announces retirement
rotund sail
damn
sullen berry
tespa players do not count as retirement
weak bolt
What would you really have Stratus play here?
I assume Corey is in so he can play a hitscan if needed
rotund sail
i got my box of cheezits for 
weak bolt
Justice actually looking like they can compete with Boston for spot #20
rugged yacht
Closer having his moment of fame
weak bolt
Ttuba? Are you ok?
rotund sail
let chipsa play dood
rugged yacht
have i mentioned i love decay
ebon aurora
that tracer performance against the valiant was unreal
rotund sail
is it really a mind crunch doe?
rugged yacht
@rotund sail mercy's out it aint happening
rotund sail
echo is gonna be banned again im calling it
weak bolt
Should be a high chance of it at least with hero pools off owl usage
rotund sail
yea
weak bolt
although it's usage over 2 weeks, so not guaranteed
rugged yacht
either moira or ana is getting banned
outer zenith
At least this time it would be justified.
rotund sail
2 weeks now?
rugged yacht
nvm then ana
weak bolt
It's always been the usage over past 2 weeks I think? Or did I make that up
reef phoenix
U guys whatching owl
rotund sail
i think it might be the week before
outer zenith
Ouch. That hold had to hurt.
weak bolt
I don't think Justice are an ok team, I think they are boston/houston tier honestly
rugged yacht
hey houston has class
reef phoenix
Fuel is good tho
rotund sail
i mean they have the players
rotund sail
houston are lower down but def not bottom
outer zenith
Ja.
weak bolt
Depends if they can learn to play anything other than Sombra/doom I think. If teams adapt to that, they're a bit out of luck
Seems to be their only decent comp
rotund sail
dupe brig
outer zenith
But, considering teams have yet to actually adapt, and the comp is still effective when they are actually allowed to play it, there's no reason to place them bottom yet.
weak bolt
Not placing them bottom, but probably 18th, just above Boston and Justice :p
rugged yacht
i love muma but he does feed a lot
outer zenith
Nah. Rather, Muma needs to improve on other Tanks. His Winston, overall, is quite good.
It's just his other heroes.
weak bolt
Just remind him where his Q button is
outer zenith
Also, I'd put Houston above Toronto at this point, without question.
outer zenith
Perhaps.
weak bolt
I'm curious to see how Toronto play if Kruise can be an in game leader for them. They always seem to just have no sense of what to do
rotund sail
ok but to be sponsored by Jack Links AND Jack in the Box
neat canopy
kruise could be massive for them
rugged yacht
houston just needs a break. they've been back to back since the shift
neat canopy
houston are 16th for me
outer zenith
Maybe Kruise does help, maybe not. As of now, the team is in the dumps until proven otherwise.
raw ermine
yeah
neat canopy
atm yes
rotund sail
well a lot of teams are
rugged yacht
@neat canopy the standings agree
raw ermine
I think it will be helpful
rotund sail
gordon hayward is like watching Philly v Uprising
weak bolt
I kind of wonder if Titans consider picking up Hydration/Rawkus/Logix, I think all would potentially be available
neat canopy
itd be hard to get them
weak bolt
Logix probably, but I reckon Hydration would be available for sure
neat canopy
they all signed year contracts and all they could offer the teams is money and due to corona thats in short supply
neat canopy
lmao
rotund sail
woahhh
neat canopy
theyd have to sign people in na
rugged yacht
Rawkus deserves to be on a wining team tho
rotund sail
titans are like dead
neat canopy
rawkus isnt that good
weak bolt
Dropping players off your roster saves you their pay for the year, especially now if you don't think you'll need them without the travel
rotund sail
rugged yacht
he's baby tho and that's all that matters
neat canopy
i mean they have to pay extra to the teams they want to buy them from apart from the contracts
the new contracts will probably be cheaper though
rotund sail
not crunch time 😦
weak bolt
Assuming teams want a buyout payment. It could be just not having to pay the salary is worth it
I mean Hydration could be on a 100k contract, letting him to go a new team is a 100k saving
neat canopy
they wouldnt of resigned them to begin with if they didnt want them
hydration is the only exception i think
weak bolt
They were signed when the teams were having to travel world wide remember
Now they don't need to, they may be a lot less worried about burnout etc
neat canopy
tbh it could be worse because alot of players are better live
alot of stress around atm
rugged yacht
houston is proving burnout still exist
weak bolt
Titans could potentially have the money too, especially if Haskal had a big buyout
outer zenith
Listen, more Hydration means the return of Hydration Man. You don't have to say any more than that to sell me on it.
neat canopy
titans probably do have the money
i think its likely they get a bunch of na contenders talent for this year
maybe a hydration on the side
either way titans are fucked
rugged yacht
reinforce:...fuck
rotund sail
f
neat canopy
mans gotta eat
weak bolt
I think they either have to go full contenders, or spend on fringe players
neat canopy
i think contenders
rugged yacht
I love custa as a caster now
weak bolt
I mean potentially they could have a shot at any of; Sharp, frd, Trill, Hydration, Spree, Rawkus, Boombox, Eqo
neat canopy
they are unlikely to do well this year with fringe so it makes sense to save the money for next year
weak bolt
Whether teams want to sell them who knows
neat canopy
sharp is being played so thats a no
eqo would be really expensive
dont see much of an issue with the others
well as far as we know
wait no
sharp isnt
is?
remember seeing him
weak bolt
Sharp played 1 map early on I think, but not much
neat canopy
that could of been it
weak bolt
It's usually been BBB, Erster and maybe Edison
neat canopy
i think they got sharp as a backup for BBB but hes become better
weak bolt
All comes down to how much VT want to spend I suppose
neat canopy
if i was them i would spend as little as possible and spend it all next year
weak bolt
Go budget and get 8 contenders players at 50k each, or go for some big players
neat canopy
but im just a rando what do i know
weak bolt
If they go budget for this year and go from #2 team to #20 team though, do they potentially lose funding next year anyway
neat canopy
i think itd be really hard to get a bunch of big players and still make playoffs
number #2
theyve been bad all this year
rugged yacht
contenders is looking really spicy lately
weak bolt
By #2 I mean last year
neat canopy
ahh ok
weak bolt
2019 2nd place, 2020 19th place, doesn't sound good for investors
neat canopy
bumper carried the titans 
no it doesnt but also i think either way this implosion looks bad for investors
weak bolt
Titans only 2-2 so far, so I think playoffs could be easily obtainable
rugged yacht
last map guys
idle beacon
lol, whats the OWL youtube channel?
neat canopy
i dont think so, if they get a bunch of players that teams arnt using i see them like 15th
idle beacon
does blizz have an overwatch AND an owl yt channel?
neat canopy
houston level
outer zenith
@idle beacon Take a wild guess.
idle beacon
thx errrorr
neat canopy
overwatch and owl are separate
idle beacon
i miss the twitch channel. yt is so weird
weak bolt
Buy 5 cheaper players, spend big on a top dps and hope they can carry you to enough wins? Got potential haha
rugged yacht
@idle beacon went through all that earlier
neat canopy
washington last year be like
or decay on dallas
not as much doe
half a bad team, a decent team and then decay
weak bolt
I think we just have to assume they'll grab a contenders team for cheap contracts, but don't they have to be 2 year minmum contracts?
outer zenith
Poor Roar.
rugged yacht
Note deciding its time to take the point
idle beacon
wait.. dallas fuel is without any old enVy player ?
neat canopy
that was just first year i think
ebon aurora
harryhook is still on the roster @idle beacon
rugged yacht
@idle beacon don't remind me
weak bolt
Is it 1 year + 1 optional year now? Seems to change often
neat canopy
i think so
ebon aurora
Is Mickie still on the roster or has he joined a different part of the org
weak bolt
Mickie is a DF streamer
neat canopy
hes a content creator
weak bolt
Not on roster
ebon aurora
kk
neat canopy
same thing
ebon aurora
so yeah HH is the last enVy member
rugged yacht
rip mickie 
idle beacon
@rugged yacht remind you of what? .. @ebon aurora taimou gone aswell?
ebon aurora
yep
weak bolt
Taimou went to their contenders team for a bit I think, then they ditched that
neat canopy
titans just pick up NV ngl, the org just dropped the team but they are still playing together
outer zenith
Taimou is now a proud Valorant player.
neat canopy
hes retired from OW
weak bolt
Some of the Envy players aren't 18 I think?
neat canopy
and the rest are probably benched
idle beacon
Taimou is now a proud Valorant player.
@outer zenith really?? .. sinaatra, taimou .. who else? 🙂
rugged yacht
imagine not getting that tic
weak bolt
I hope Titans just drop their roster announcement mid SF game, do it for the memes
echo quest
Akm and Unkoe are basically retired valorant players
idle beacon
envy weren't young players, 2-3 yrs ago.. not 18?
rugged yacht
i can let go of akm
weak bolt
RIP the Twilight rumours
rugged yacht
akm rarely added to the team
clear crane
he was on GCBW with Edison
raw ermine
right
neat canopy
akm, zacharee and harryhook may as well be dropped at this point, theyre just there for the personality and arnt good enough (in theory) to be fielded anymore
weak bolt
They have super expensive contracts, hard to drop
rugged yacht
zach wasn't good last season
weak bolt
Unkoe too
rugged yacht
zach isn't good this season
neat canopy
non of them are
idle beacon
@neat canopy akm is no original NV player
dusty crow
Hello I have a overwatch league watch party server it you want to join dm me and I can give you the code to join.
neat canopy
i never said he was
raw ermine
akm will prob go to valorant
clear crane
akm is gone haha
rugged yacht
nothing lose
neat canopy
i wasnt talking about old nv lmao
weak bolt
If I were AKM or Unkoe, I'd sit and enjoy my DF contract while building up a Valorant reputation for a bit
neat canopy
thats what id do
outer zenith
That's essentially what they've been doing.
neat canopy
id be really surprised if they are picked up after this year
dusty crow
Dm me if you want to join my watch party
idle beacon
so many going to valorant
weak bolt
Maybe sit it out and hope the Org starts a Valorant team lol
neat canopy
not many really
idle beacon
like, as if valorant will be so much better
dusty crow
Can someone please join my watch party
neat canopy
the people porting apart from sinnatraa are washed
weak bolt
Valorant is the new hot thing, if players are streamers, thats where the money is
rugged yacht
I don't even feel like saying gg
raw ermine
hahahaha
strange path
Valorant is pretty fun I haven’t played tho
clear crane
i thought u cant join a valorant team of an OWL org
raw ermine
c9'd by monkey
idle beacon
in general, i273 .. not ow players only
weak bolt
That was dismissed as fake news @clear crane , by Sinatraa
idle beacon
lots of csgo pros for exsample
dusty crow
Can some one please join my watch party only my friend is in it.
neat canopy
ahh ok
idle beacon
@weak bolt sinaatra going full valorant is a fake news?
clear crane
oh so he just wanted to go to sentinels even with nrg making a team
neat canopy
i dont follow any games at esports apart from owl so wouldnt know
weak bolt
Yeah, wanted ot go with Zombs etc
dusty crow
Can someone join my watch party
rugged yacht
should we tell them its decay
echo quest
@weak bolt no about him not being allowed to go to nrg
He said going to the sentinels was a group decision
outer zenith
You have to understand, that's just the circle of life when it comes to competitive games. Many of the pros in the early days of Overwatch were prominent players from other games who saw a ship and decided to jump on board. Valorant is just that's new ship. It's fine.
idle beacon
btw, what happened with the Titans team. why did they leave ??
outer zenith
That's how it goes.
dusty crow
Someone anyone please join my watch party
clear crane
no one knows exactly why the left
weak bolt
Valorant = Views/Subs on twitch, It's the best chance to grow your career really. Especially if washed in other games
neat canopy
we dont know
strange path
Valorant isn’t on console 😭
heavy bough
why is overwatch league is now being streamed in youtube? it was in twitch right?
strange path
Bc YouTube payed them
neat canopy
valorant is likely going to be big unless it pulls an apex
fast basin
signed a new deal for like 3 years w/ youtube
strange path
130 mil
weak bolt
Because YT paid lots of $$$ for the CoD/OW league coverage
heavy bough
ohhhh that makes sense
echo quest
Ngl seeing Emongg shitting on OW is kinda sad. Mans a valorant streamer now
clear crane
but if valorant players are getting rumored pay quite a bit rn, imagine the salary for the next wave of players, who i think more likely will be better
neat canopy
money and yt is a platform watched by more people
strange path
Apex is pretty good tho
weak bolt
Valorant has the bonus of it's run by a company that has a good history of Esports too
neat canopy
i mean if you watch twitch you generally watch yt but not necessarily the other way round
heavy bough
yeah, most watchers usually chill in youtube rather than twitch
idle beacon
shit soe still there. wow
clear crane
Tencent to take over the world 🙂
idle beacon
@weak bolt still, valorant is more cs based. for cs players it ain't the best chance. i guess?
raw ermine
F
heavy bough
F
heavy bough
are these broadcasters working from home?
weak bolt
Lots of CS players gone yeah, but doesn't mean they're the best aim players ever
raw ermine
yes
weak bolt
Yes @heavy bough , all being run from home
heavy bough
imagine talking to the camera
outer zenith
Yes. Blame Corona for that.
heavy bough
it's harder
idle beacon
@heavy bough looks like them mods / bcasters are still with the blizz company somewhere
weak bolt
All the production members are home based
heavy bough
well i wish there will be a vaccine soon for this pandemic
it really sucks that our daily lifestyle is ruined by it
idle beacon
@weak bolt have you ever played cs ?
clear crane
i think we will open up by june/july. fingers crossed
echo quest
Aren’t the Devs for valorantcs 1.6 pros?
neat canopy
i dont think its worth trying to work it out
weak bolt
I have played CS yep
neat canopy
it could be anything
idle beacon
btw.. where do they play?? the teams .. everyone play from their team house?
echo quest
Ye
raw ermine
Some of them
neat canopy
most of them?
raw ermine
some from their own houses
weak bolt
Some teams play from their apartments, some are in team houses
neat canopy
its where some of them live
rotund sail
spitfire and titans didnt have a house
weak bolt
WJ are in a team house and all play in 1 room I believe
idle beacon
@weak bolt so then you know that the aiming is alot different than in any other game. except for valorant probably .. shootin at feets with the ak .. to hit hs .. n stuff
or 2shot bursts with the m4a4 or whatever it is called
silk frost
someone just told me Dallas is top 10
neat canopy
that isnt what he said lmao
weak bolt
Yeah, but Valorant isn't an exact CS copy, If you can aim in OW/Fortnite/CS you can likely aim/adept in Valorant
idle beacon
hm ok.
neat canopy
aim is aim, if you can aim to begin with it can translate from game to game
idle beacon
can't wait to test it. but i still hate their Rootkit Anticheat idea
outer zenith
None of this, "which game will field the best Valorant players" stuff matters anyway. E-sports history has shown us, without fail, that the best players are inevitably born of the game they specialize in. The best players early on are almost always thrown to the wayside after the game develops.
neat canopy
^^^^^
clear crane
yup
idle beacon
it's the only (they think) to make it hard for cheatcoders. which i actually doubt. proper reverse engineers will also bypass that rootkit system with ease
weak bolt
Valorant is still in beta anyway, could change dramatically before any real e-sports scene develops. People just jumping ship now because they are washed in current games and see it as a potential career move
clear crane
thats why its kinda pretty stupid for orgs to throw this much money at players rn
wen the best players most likely are yet to come
neat canopy
ngl it doesnt matter really
rotund sail
casters waiting to be told to talk: 👀
neat canopy
valourant is going to be big and picking up people who were popular before is a good way to start
idle beacon
i remember some cs pro's being badass in other games. but never the other way around.
neat canopy
gives the org a name in the scene before the community is built properly
outer zenith
I mean, it isn't necessarily a BAD idea for orgs to get in on the ground floor. You still want to establish a foothold. And there has to be a top team and top players, even at this point. So people are just racing to find who it will be.
weak bolt
Picking up some established pros for 1 year contracts could work well. Never know what tournaments crop up that they can make that money back
neat canopy
there will be some but just because you dont remember any doesnt mean it doesnt work
clear crane
it will impact future salaries tho. if ur gonna pay these guys $200k for a game in beta, more den likely minumum salary later on will be $300k. All better for the players tho and i guess if the org doesnt care then its fine
neat canopy
cs isnt stupidly different from every other game
$200k
wheres that from because that is VERY high
weak bolt
I'd doubt Sinatraa is on a 200k contract honestly
I'd guess he's taken a hit from his OW contract, but the stream $$$ will make up for it
clear crane
unreliable. i just read some rumor. but the concept still applies where ur setting some sort of precedent for starting salary
weak bolt
If pulling in 5k viewers a stream, you're likely already making enough to pay off your needs + bank everything from a contract
rotund sail
no baby lets go
neat canopy
owl min is $50k and sinatraa being on $100k was considered a fuck ton
raw ermine
hmmm
neat canopy
seeeee
raw ermine
Sinatraa had a 150k contract
raw ermine
yeah
clear crane
Pokpo still in? dang
weak bolt
yeah cross sharp off that list, and yeah it was 150k
weak bolt
Not that we've seen, it;s always been Pokpo Winston I think
neat canopy
yeah ive never seen gator play it
probably because of that since dive seems to be meta
weak bolt
I'm surprised FRD over Hawk though, must be more synergy between Pokpo and FRD
neat canopy
synergy
neither hawk or gator are amazing by themselves but they are a really good duo
clear crane
what a long fight
weak bolt
yeah, Hawk seemed very shakey with Pokpo last match
neat canopy
i loved goats
rugged yacht
well now... I wasn't expecting that
neat canopy
either of them by themselves could be a bottom tier starters but together they are top tier
its really strange
thats probably an exaggeration
weak bolt
How long until we get the Mcgravy dva pics put on stream
rugged yacht
can we talk about the supports for valiant taking that point
that was at the beginning
neat canopy
whats peoples opinions on rain because mine is fairly low
dunno why though but ive just never been happy with him
weak bolt
Never seen major issues, but also nothing special. Pretty much same as whole team
rugged yacht
mid-low tier team
neat canopy
valiant are
yeah i agree
hes just always there and really not impactful
dunno why i have a thing against him specifically, i know i shouldnt
rotund sail
29 more days til paris is good
neat canopy
is that it
rotund sail
Sp9rk1e
neat canopy
paris is doing fairy well without sp9rk1e
rotund sail
when he comes in they will b godly
clear crane
wait wat?
rotund sail
sp9rk1e can play may 31st
clear crane
ah
neat canopy
xzi is an issue though, hes much better than soon
clear crane
yea we need both xzi and ap9rkle starting to see their top potential
clear crane
uh....
raw ermine
Pokpo?
neat canopy
clown fiesta
rugged yacht
I'm really liking lastro