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hot heart
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Yeah

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No synergy tho

true hound
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runaway squad has too much synergy and I doubt any other team can replace that

hot heart
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True

true hound
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bumper was step 1

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Now jjanu is gone

weak bolt
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yeah but that's already gone with Bumper, and who else would pick them all up

true hound
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if they replaced bumper with say Kaiser it would probs be fine

weak bolt
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Shame C9 gave up on OWL or you could see London pick some up I guess

true hound
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Considering they were old teammates

raw ermine
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we're 2 hours from JJ release and 1 from paj

crisp willow
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Wasnt there already drama before bumper left

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Howd it be fine

weak bolt
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The drama was because they let Bumper go, apparantly anyway

swift moth
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so the implosion has begun?

weak bolt
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Head coach + Jjanu gone so far

raw ermine
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yeah

hot heart
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Haksal is gone

swift moth
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bro wtf

tropic herald
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Next announcement

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Waiting

hot heart
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I can feel it

swift moth
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@hot heart link?

hot heart
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Nah not confirmed

clear crane
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no link just something thats prob 99% true XD

hot heart
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I just think hes next to go

weak bolt
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Jjanu's post was great though

hot heart
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Most people actually think hes next

weak bolt
clear crane
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Its only 1:30 in Vancouver. There's time for more announcements today

true hound
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we still don’t know exactly why titans is just dying right

tropic herald
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Luminosity

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Lol

crisp willow
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Time to wake up to a lot of fucking drama and shit then

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Gn

hot heart
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Lmfao

weak bolt
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Nothing official, but seems like Titans manager forcing the team back to NA is one of the big issues for players

hot heart
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Gn dude @crisp willow

crisp willow
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Ty

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Ty

hot heart
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👍

crisp willow
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👋

karmic grotto
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well

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aren't titans gonna play vs NA teams?

hot heart
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Yeah

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With no offtank

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WAIT

karmic grotto
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It's logical to the players to NA continent

swift moth
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now that jjanu is gone we should expect a twitlonger dropping

hot heart
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Arent they playing next week

clear crane
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Funny how one of the most inept owners has prob the most stabled team in OWL. guessing he leaves it all to the GM

weak bolt
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They are playing vs NA teams as they're moving back. I'm pretty sure if they'd said they're staying in Korea, they'd be on that league

limber pine
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we don't really know anything about the Titans situation

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yet

swift moth
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^

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everything is speculation

digital cloud
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we have a lot of guessing though

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and that is basically the same as knowing

weak bolt
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Speculation is fun though, probably far more exciting than just having the info

limber pine
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-_-

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i'm only reminding ppl that it's speculation

tropic herald
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There’s lots of it

weak bolt
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Titans just can't let Shock win the Drama competition, they've lost to them enough already

digital cloud
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hard to top this

weak bolt
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Shock lost their MVP player? Hold my Beer. Lets ditch our whole team

digital cloud
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well, to be frank, Sinatraa was good, but didn't deserve it as much as, say

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Choi

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so

short flint
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NERF REAPER
asap
fking asap

tropic herald
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There’s still people in the replies blaming Fissure

digital cloud
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wrong channel

hot heart
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Yeah@digital cloud@digital cloud

weak bolt
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Blaming Fissure is just such a meme at this stage lol

hot heart
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Fuck the people blaming fissure

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I mean the ones that are not memeing around

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Fuck them

digital cloud
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to be fair, he hasn't exactly been the model player

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but I don't see how this particular thing is his fault

hot heart
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Yeah

digital cloud
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I agree it sounds like management

weak bolt
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I think the players want to stay in Korea, can't say I blame them with Covid and everything

swift moth
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according to rumors/leaks it is 100% the management

weak bolt
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Maybe Runner and Flowervin are forming a Valorant team 😄

echo quest
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The game isn’t out in Korea

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The drops I mean

digital cloud
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taimou to sentinels?

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or babybay?

echo quest
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Babybay

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I think taimou just dropped a hint

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Cuz he replied to babybay’s tweet

weak bolt
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Wouldn't put it past Babybay & Taimou to be full on trolling

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Not sure we can rule out anything yet lol

digital cloud
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true, but even if he is gone, no big loss for Atlanta

earnest leaf
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Didn't babybay cheat in csgo before?

digital cloud
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just would stink to lose another player

tropic herald
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Wouldn’t be a big L for Atlanta to lose Babybay

digital cloud
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he wasn't bad at all

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but they have better

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and it might force them to USE THEM

weak bolt
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Must be a reason they keep playing him over Edison at the moment, but I think Edison has more potential

digital cloud
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I thought so, but dogman all the time?

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that screams poor decisions to me

weak bolt
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Dogman or Kodak, again must be a reason they kept Dogman last year too

digital cloud
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one would think, but they can afford better, at least, even if Kodak isn't better

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which I would say he is

weak bolt
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I also wonder how much of a shotcalled Babybay is on the team

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or Dogman

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Both are pretty vocal

digital cloud
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hmm

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good point

clear crane
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I think Massa is the main shotcaller

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But dont follow ATL much so PES_SadShrug

weak bolt
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yeah, we don't really know the full details, so guess there are reasons to play them. I can't say Edison has looked miles better than BBB so far

next mesa
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Why did babybay leave

weak bolt
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Not confirmed he's left

digital cloud
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he did in contenders, at least

clear crane
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He didnt.. yet

weak bolt
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Contenders is like GM's smurfing in Plat though tbf

clear crane
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but like others have said, wouldn't be surprised if ATL is trolling

digital cloud
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some contenders teams are definitely OWL level

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pretty sure Edison's team was, iirc

next mesa
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Wait so except jjanu no one left it

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It's been an hour

digital cloud
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and the coach

next mesa
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Yeah yeah ik

digital cloud
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no, I don't think so

weak bolt
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I think the BBB thing is a full troll. Why would Sentinels not announce him when they did the other 4 if they'd signed him

digital cloud
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maybe it was recent?

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but good thinking

weak bolt
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Also looking at their roster, I wouldn't say BBB is the true star to join them

clear crane
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Might be a different Valorant team

echo quest
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Sinatraa said they had no clue their 5th was

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And if they knew it would be leaked by now

weak bolt
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Also isn't it the same Jersey as his profile picture he's had for ages?

earnest leaf
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that picture is from 2018

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He's just messing with people i think

echo quest
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He a troll

karmic grotto
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Trolling as usual

raw ermine
digital cloud
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LOL

raw ermine
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Imma resign as a TD fan, no more 2 way between them

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titans have 9 days to get a new Off tank

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or team

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idk

clear crane
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no more announcements today

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guess we wait another day

echo quest
vital plinth
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why is everyone parting ways with everyone

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i dont understand why sinatraa would leave or why Jjanu would leave

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doesnt make sense

gaunt acorn
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because disagreements between titans management and players boiled over

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sinatraa is unrelated, dude just wanted to play valorant

vital plinth
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they are getting paid money to play overwatch and they just leave it

gaunt acorn
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he gets paid to play valorant too

vital plinth
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but... overwatch

tropic herald
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If you don’t want to play a game

gaunt acorn
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he said he hasn't found overwatch fun since 2-2-2

tropic herald
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And you get payed to play another game

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Why play

gaunt acorn
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valorant is new and fresh and paying a lot

vital plinth
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but valorant is worse than overwatch

gaunt acorn
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then he can leave if it turns out to suck

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but it's not too puzzling why he retired from ow

vital plinth
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do you really think sfs will just let him come back if he decided valorant isnt fun

gaunt acorn
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if sfs wouldn't want him someone else would

rare magnet
vital plinth
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yeah i guess, he is the most liked player in the ow league

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and one of the best

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so

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makes sense

echo quest
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You could just see it Tbh. He barely played rank at all in the past few seasons

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And when he did he looked miserable on stream

rare magnet
echo quest
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Might get that 12 hour valorant stream by dafran today

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With ranked out

tropic herald
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Hoping for 24

echo quest
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Sinatraa smacking shroud

worn falcon
tropic herald
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Stop

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Stop

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They’re already dead

worn falcon
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Haksal 👀

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The Titans fans gonna mald hard

echo quest
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Sinatraa’s whole stack is immortal already

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Wtf

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He needs one more game to get placement

karmic grotto
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It's the logical thing

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Pro players of course

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Straight to Valorant very soon

echo quest
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Man is in a 50 minute Q

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dead game

karmic grotto
grave sail
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what did sinatraa place

jagged crater
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sinatraa's stack so high rank he's waiting 2 hours for a game to go against cheaters lol

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his teammates immortal so im guessing immortal

grave sail
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is that equal to gm in ow

jagged crater
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probably, it's still early

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It's like when overwatch was early you couldn't place beyond Master

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but placements highly valued combat rating or kills so that means cheaters that drop 50 bombs will go against legit good players very often

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so the anticheat needs to work or rank is gonna be a mess

karmic grotto
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kephrii lul

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platinum 2

echo quest
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He got diamond 3

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But that was because his 5th game he played cheaters again

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And this time they didn’t get kicked from the match

echo quest
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According to a chinese caster every player has left the titans

celest spear
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Jehong retired, Haksal already found a team, Titans are looking to pick up an NA contenders team

cloud latch
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RIP

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I wonder which team he's going to

echo quest
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They actually fucked up runaway

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Feelsbadman

true hound
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damn it

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sad

hidden vault
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Lol Vancouver going Canadian maybe?

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Sucks to be fissure that no one seems to cate about him

true hound
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pretty much

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That’s what’s gonna happen when you replace Bumper

hidden vault
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They probably didn't think it through when they kicked bumper

true hound
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wait was he released or did he leave on his own

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He was released right

hidden vault
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Yeah he was

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If he decided to leave the runaway wouldn't be so angry

true hound
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Wack seeing such a dominant team just crumble

karmic grotto
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ooof

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Also

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Much talent in KR

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GOD

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PLS

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SOMEONE GET KAISER

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or Daco if you can btw

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whoever is better idc

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as long as ther eis something

vivid solar
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What in the world is happening with vancouver titans lmao

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I don't follow Overwatch esports at all

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but I've seen posts about every single player leaving the team???

true hound
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^

tropic herald
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@vivid solar players don’t like management

vivid solar
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All of them though

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damn

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Super spicy

tropic herald
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I think that just shows the scale

echo quest
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Of how stupid titans managements is

tropic herald
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The fact that Jjanu, the one who doesn’t use twitter at all, tweeted “I’m free” is a really bad look for the Titans

raw ermine
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yeah

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What NA contenders team do you think they will get?

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some ppl are saying Envy

surreal tulip
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So this only has something to do with team management? What about the attitude of some of the players? Doesn’t it make sense to play in Vancouver when you’re playing at the ‘Vancouver’ Titans? And players thashing their own team in public tells you something. Never seen that on this scale outside e-sports.

clear crane
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Im thinking Envy as well

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Maybe Harbleu since hes already with the Org 😅

surreal tulip
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Harblue would be awesome.

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Love that guy. He often outplays OWL players when I watch his stream.

rare magnet
balmy wolf
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The titans situation honestly makes me a bit sad

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I never rooted for the titans but they were a dominant team who we never got to see in other metas

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It’s all falling apart

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Ryujehong is posting this morning about how he is looking for a team

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That he is leaving titans today

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I would love to see him resigned to Seoul dynasty

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Apparently the entire roster is being dropped

true hound
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Rip runaway

feral wing
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have you guys seen the Overwatch League survey?

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that blizzard made

true hound
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Nope

echo quest
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Jehong just posted on IG “leaving lol”

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Man is GONEEEEE

true hound
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damn

tropic herald
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Twilight commented something about 3 o clock

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Slime commented “together”

true hound
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god damn

worn falcon
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Now who is gonna be the t2 NA team in Vanc?

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Team doge?

true hound
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idk

worn falcon
karmic grotto
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Apes. Together. Strong. #Titans

tropic herald
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Third Impact maybe

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Or Team Doge

worn falcon
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Angry Titans

karmic grotto
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Tema doge pls

tropic herald
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Both teams wouldn’t be the bottom of the pack either PepeLaugh

karmic grotto
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Pls, get Harbleu pls

tropic herald
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I mean Harb is part of Luminosity now

karmic grotto
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He still can get to owl if someone does make him an offer

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Pls titans..

tropic herald
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Then again

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Idk if I’d take an offer from Titans

worn falcon
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Man, titans should release the full statement instead having us like this

tropic herald
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They just lost RunAway Ryu and Fissure

worn falcon
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Also if all the players are out, they gonna expensive for the orgs

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Mayhem, Valiant, Outlaws are broke af

tropic herald
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True

worn falcon
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Dunno about Uprising, but doubt they can afford Fissure and JJANU

tropic herald
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I think Haksal got picked up by a team in Asia

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Idk about others

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I feel like if Boston gets any of these players it’s a W

worn falcon
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There are rumours about Haksal and other being already picked for other team

tropic herald
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What team are they saying?

worn falcon
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They didn't said, again all rumours/especulation

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The other rumour is RJH retiring from OWL

tropic herald
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Any team in Asia could’ve signed him but Shanghai

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For Haksal

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Honestly if Ryu retires it will be super sad

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Wouldn’t blame him but it’d be really sad

worn falcon
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Yeah, but man with all the shit going with OWL

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I prefer retire

tropic herald
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Wait a minute

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How did this go under the radar

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Who’s the player sitting on the couch?

worn falcon
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Oh, the documentary

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They're doing a documentary iirc

tropic herald
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Oh

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Lol

raw ermine
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this is unnerving

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also this is sad

worn falcon
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Stonks ded

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From top team to ???

tropic herald
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Team Dogs

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TeamDoge

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#stomped

tropic herald
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Ryu is now streaming and it’s titled ㅋㅋㅋㅋ

karmic grotto
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LOLOLOLZ

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well

digital cloud
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why is that significant?

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isn't that basically just indicating sleepiness?

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sorry, laughter

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why did I mix that up

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anyway

sullen berry
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Korean backdash FFFF

tropic herald
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Well idk, But he’s definitely in Korea still

sullen berry
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That could mean anything without context

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Like oof or kms

tropic herald
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Isn’t it generally laughter

sullen berry
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Broadly speaking, it’s usually for laughter yes

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Ryujehong could be like mad

tropic herald
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I think with this context it’s laughter

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But idk

hot heart
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Wtf

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The entire roster us being dropped???

sullen berry
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Speculation

tropic herald
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When you look at some of the comments and the caption of that post

sullen berry
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Redshell hinted at jjanu leaving is one of at least 5, but that could be referring to anyone

tropic herald
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Speculation goes away

sullen berry
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떠나요ㅎㅎ literally translates to laughter

hot heart
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Lmao

sullen berry
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Where ate backwards F

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*are

hot heart
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Management is ultra fucked

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These players will find new and better homes

karmic grotto
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It can happen but

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Titans will get above the situation

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they're not gonna let themselves go down

sullen berry
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See if i could name a terribly managed org outside of overwatch i thought it would something from LOL esports or Whip

raw ermine
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how tf would redshell know anything?

radiant vessel
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aight so i havent played this game in a year

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what happened to titans

raw ermine
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well

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management is bad to coaches and players

sullen berry
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No about titans neccessarily

raw ermine
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inner turmoil

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they got rid of their leader, bumper

sullen berry
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But an OW league yeeting of players

raw ermine
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and now they are imploding

radiant vessel
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yo bumper popped off though

sullen berry
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You can thank the 2 year contracts expiring as another factor as well the obvious moving to other games

raw ermine
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he was a good leader and his rein fit the titans playstyle

sullen berry
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No i think this is because of a toxic turmoil between the players

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Starting with bumper and how he was the most volatile of the players

raw ermine
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They could have kept the old roster, maybe ditching rapel and hooreg, and have been fine

sullen berry
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But it didnt stop with their tank line leaving, oh no

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Speaking of hooreg

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I completely forgot ||he’s only been on championship winning teams, so Outlaws is going tk win OWL season 3||

true hound
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Ohh shit

sullen berry
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Big wins if true

raw ermine
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yeah

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the good luck charm

sullen berry
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You think were joking vinum but historical evidence doesnt lie:

‘’’
A running joke among the community refers to Hooreg as the "Benchgod", considering that, despite the fact that he rarely started for the teams he has played on, all of the teams he has been on have won the tournament that he had participated in.
‘’’

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Titans kryptonite this whole time was hooreg leaving

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Kappa

hot heart
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ChipSa is the new benchgod

sullen berry
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He just there

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Giving fans false hope

hot heart
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Thats why philly are 8-1

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Ez

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Yeah

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Idk why they didnt play him

sullen berry
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He is doing Christfer a favour

hot heart
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Like ever

sullen berry
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And by extension, his family

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Parents have to be proud of an esports dynasty in a game they probably know little about

hot heart
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Yeah

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Hopefully he actually does well

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Or well enough that he gets played a few more times

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Then id be satisfied

sullen berry
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A real chipsa fan demands more screen time

hot heart
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Im Not a chipsa fan then

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Tbh

sullen berry
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A TRUE chipsa fan not only has the owl custom jersey...

hot heart
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Chipsa shouldn't be in owl

true hound
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y

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chipsa is god

sullen berry
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But can name exactly what map he got subbed in and how many frags he go on the other team. Not exaggerating but this is rhe closest parallel to the fandom you see in traditional fantasy sports drafts

hot heart
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Until he plays and dominates

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Im not changing my mind

karmic grotto
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@hot heart kodak (he did play although 1 match) and frd shouldn't be in owl until they play. basically, any benched player don't belong in owl until they play

hot heart
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No

karmic grotto
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yes

tropic herald
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Kodak played

karmic grotto
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im not changing my mind

hot heart
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I meant if he hasnt proven himself somewhat

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I dont believe in him

tropic herald
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Also

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Forgot about Fire

hot heart
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Kodak has found success in contenders

sullen berry
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Well now, are we just talking atlanta’s bench specifically?

karmic grotto
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yeh

sullen berry
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No water

karmic grotto
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can also be about any bench

sullen berry
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Just fire now

hot heart
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Idk even know anymore lmao

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Titans bench

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Nonexistent

tropic herald
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Idk why FRD is still on ATL anymore other than maybe internal scrims

sullen berry
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@karmic grotto i feared this was a ridiculous conversation to stretch to other teams, ngl it’d be entertaining AF

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@hot heart Ado (he did play although 1 match) and Bazzi shouldn't be in owl until they play. basically, any benched player don't belong in owl until they play

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Lol ignore the last ping

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Just setting an example that bazzi has not looked good since hero pools started this season

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And ado is basically Diya with a hangzhou spark skin

hot heart
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Ado

sullen berry
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Played once to just have time on stage

hot heart
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I completely forgot about him

sullen berry
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Benched with u4

hot heart
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Wasnt he a good genji at some points in s1

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I remember him getting godly blades

sullen berry
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Who is also on Hangzhou as assistant coach

rare magnet
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RJH was just streaming any idea what he said?

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anyone watch and speak korean?

sullen berry
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Its quite late here, but i assume he doesnt have much to say about their situation

hot heart
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Probably not allowed to say much

sullen berry
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So i have been very dubious about sources in the past, from sigma leaks in brazil and even mostly accurate slasher / halo of thoughts stuff

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But this lines up the most personally, take that with a grain of salt

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But some of the reddit tagged gossip is looking VERY convincing

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we may have more information coming out over the weekend

tropic herald
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I have notifs on for Titans Twitter now

rare magnet
sullen berry
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Oh whose ready for it

clear crane
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I would like to see Twilight on Paris. They can use an upgrade on flex support since Hyp left

tropic herald
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Twilight to Atlanta

raw ermine
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lmao

tropic herald
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So many teams could take a better Flex support

grave sail
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where is haksal going to? has it been confirmed?

tropic herald
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All I know is him being in Korea still

clear crane
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i cant understand rjh with my piss poor korean notlikeblob

tropic herald
sullen berry
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Theyre fielding the models you see on the fanatics websites wearing their jerseys at this rate

idle beacon
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just heard the news today .. who else from the OWL is switching over to Valorant?

digital cloud
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no one I hope

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but to be honest, probably quite a few, the traitors

idle beacon
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lets see how good valorant will hit

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i still don't like their rootkit anticheat idea

grave sail
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babybay might

digital cloud
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anything with the stench of Tencent is a hard no for me

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at least when they have a controlling share

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Riot?

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100% tencent

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Blizzard is like 5%?

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almost too much

grave sail
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i could see haksal going to spark

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theyre the only team in korea which doesnt have agood flex support

digital cloud
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do they have the money?

grave sail
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probably, they didn't do much over the off season

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they only got coldest and mika

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and ado

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are all the vancouver players in korea

digital cloud
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I was told they had returned to the US

grave sail
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i think vancouver is signing a new roster

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in na

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and everyone else stayed in korea

digital cloud
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very stupid of them, ditching such a talented roster

grave sail
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ikr

digital cloud
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I don't even like them

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but they are just fantastic

grave sail
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flowervin worked so hard to get all the runaway players onto one roster

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and then the management just fuck it up

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id love to see kaiser and daco get teams

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theyre such talented players

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but in contenders

digital cloud
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did daco do better in contenders

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?

grave sail
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idk i havent watched much

digital cloud
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because he was not looking great on Atlanta last year

grave sail
#

wdym he was amazing

#

he was the main reason they beat ny ttwice

#

but he has some toxicity issues

digital cloud
#

I would say that was more Erster and Masaa

#

but yeah, the toxicity was also a problem

grave sail
#

washington would be a great home for him

digital cloud
#

not sure I would put him over Hawk, though, now

grave sail
#

they can untoxify any player

digital cloud
#

Hawk and Gator are quite good

grave sail
#

true

#

idk why atlanta dont play gator on rein

digital cloud
#

I am told they prefer pokpo?

grave sail
#

gator seemed much better tho

digital cloud
#

personally, Gator has looked good to me on literally all tanks he has played

grave sail
#

he was the rein for goats

#

hawk has only rly looked good on dva for me

digital cloud
#

really?

grave sail
#

i havent been a fan of his zarya or sigma

#

actually

#

his sigma is alright

digital cloud
#

I prefer Gator's sigma, but Hawk looks good on him to me

grave sail
#

but his zarya isnt great

digital cloud
#

I think his zarya performance is more that zarya isn't great in OWL rn

grave sail
#

why would the pros play zaya then

digital cloud
#

well, I am sure there are some situations that she works

#

but the meta seems to be pretty rein dva/sigma orisa oreinted

#

I think they are running zarya more due to the dva booster nerf

#

but I think dva seems to still be the better choice for them

#

honestly, I think that Pokpo orisa and Gator sigma might be the way to go

idle beacon
#

lol still orisa+sigma meta?

digital cloud
#

at times

idle beacon
#

boring

digital cloud
#

the bans mean it switches up a bit

idle beacon
#

i thought OWL would also have the weekly hero ban system?

digital cloud
#

it does

#

it basically means the meta switches each week

idle beacon
#

havent watched owl since 2 months or so

grave sail
#

it has switched up

clear crane
#

Halo thinks Titans might pick up an EU team

idle beacon
#

since they went to youtube, tbh

grave sail
#

but were back to double shield

#

what r the bans this week

idle beacon
#

is rein+sigma a thing?

grave sail
#

yh sometimes

#

rein dva or orisa sigma is better tho

#

i could see haksal going to spark
Yh nvm hes not going to spark or charge according to roy

#

assuming hes still in korea that means its one of chengdu nyxl london or shanghai

#

its not chengdu cuz theyre chinese roster

#

nyxl maybe but they have libero and whoru

#

shanghai probably not

#

so that only rly leave sout london

#

😑

#

oh it could be seoul

#

but they have profit

#

idk

tropic herald
#

Shanghai has a full roster

#

It could be Seoul, where Seoul pulls a Philly

grave sail
#

seouls issue isnt flex dps tho

#

its hitscan

tropic herald
#

Fits isn’t bad????

raw ermine
#

seoul has profit, fits, and illicit

grave sail
#

nor is profit

#

profit is defo better thn fits

tropic herald
#

I’m gonna be honest Seoul didn’t lose because of Fits

#

They lost Bc they kept Marve1 in on dva

grave sail
#

i think its just that shanghai were the better team

tropic herald
#

That too

clear crane
#

So Jehong not retiring

grave sail
#

hdyk

raw ermine
#

nice

#

did he hint at any team?

true hound
#

esketit

grave sail
#

thank god

clear crane
#

tbh i wouldnt be surprised if he decided to just take the rest of this season off and try to come back next. With the pandemic and him being in korea, his options are kinda limited (none of the korean teams really need a FS rn) and this whole situation just might have him burnt out for a bit

grave sail
#

hangzhou need a flex support and according to leaks hes already found a team

clear crane
#

dont think hz would run with 3 FS

raw ermine
#

yeah

#

Coldest, bebe and jehong isn't gonna work

clear crane
#

well shit..........

raw ermine
#

oh

clear crane
#

Time to go with Roky or pick up Slime 😅

raw ermine
#

lmao

#

offical post RIP

worn falcon
#

ouch

#

inb4 the whole league implodes

#

and Boston Uprising are the champs

weak bolt
#

Kellex always seemed like a pretty cool guy, shame he's always been put on pretty awful teams

sullen berry
#

I need a thanos snap post of the original Uprising roster still in the league with their current teams

short sparrow
#

Let's go roky

sullen berry
#

Kellex had it good once

tough gorge
#

thanos already snapped the titans

#

there goes canada

sullen berry
#

Still waiting for more spoonfeeding before we jump the gun there

#

On the bright side

#

More Canadian rivalry matches

raw ermine
#

TD isn't dead at all

sullen berry
#

That might be a bigger clown fiesta than Houston vs Dallas

raw ermine
#

Kellex was good and will be missed, but we have roky

sullen berry
#

Or chengdu vs the world

short sparrow
#

Bigger than Boston vs Houston?

#

xD

sullen berry
#

That would be great if that happened as often as twice a week

short sparrow
#

We getting a 5-hour canadian thriller?

weak bolt
#

Titan's picking up a bunch of players hungry to succeed in OW could get a fair few wins vs some current teams imo

sullen berry
#

I can see a 4 map game going for 3 hours, tops

#

Longest 4 map match

#

In where Nero passes out

#

And ||Mickie has the most screen time in season 2||

clear crane
#

Is Slime possible? Prob the only other MS right now with a Canadian Visa but he prob doenst want to leave Korea

next mesa
#

NONONONONO

#

jehong fucking retiring dude

worn falcon
#

did he confirmed?

next mesa
#

wait

clear crane
#

he said on his stream hes not retiring..

next mesa
#

yeah

#

holy shit im glad

#

holy shit

hot heart
#

Wtf i almost thought he actually retired

next mesa
#

if he retired owl sexiness was boutta drop by at least 90%

hot heart
#

True

weak bolt
#

I'd be amazed if we see any Titans player other than maybe Fissure join an NA team. Why would they have quit titans if they're happy to play NA

sullen berry
#

So you assumed in fear that he retired, did you just assume he did on stream

next mesa
#

all is well in the universe

#

for now

raw ermine
#

wait wdym nero passes out @sullen berry ? He literally fainted?

hot heart
weak bolt
#

I could see Jehong going back to Dynasty as a player/coach or something

hot heart
#

NOOOOOOOOO

next mesa
#

no because jehong posted on his instagram "Leaving lol"

sullen berry
#

@raw ermine slept from boredom

earnest leaf
#

People put on the tinfoil hat too often with stuff like what jehong did

#

go waaay too deep into the meaning

sullen berry
#

They were on the last map and jesus christ they couldn't restart the match because one player from each team had problems loading into the game

next mesa
#

but I think jehong is leaving titans

worn falcon
#

@earnest leaf how dare you to say 💣 from NYXL doesnt mean they're imploding too?

#

: (

earnest leaf
#

lol

sullen berry
#

Map 4 went for a total run time including pause gate for over 1h on Havana

next mesa
#

@weak bolt didnt fissure leave gladiators in the first place because he preferred an all korean team

hot heart
#

Ye

weak bolt
#

Assuming the Titans players want to stick in Korea, they're options are limited to; Spark 1 slot, Charge 5 slots, London 1 slot, Dynasty 3 slots, Dragons 1(?) Slot

sullen berry
#

Charge has many spots

next mesa
#

dragons dont really need nobody

sullen berry
#

There would be leaks by now confirming any movements and additions to their team

weak bolt
#

3 spots at NYXL too, forgot them

sullen berry
#

As scuffed as their game as been as of late, they don't need another support or tank from the business side of the org

#

They're losing enough with Neptuno returning to spain

#

But still on the team

next mesa
#

apparently a chinese caster said everyone left the titans

echo quest
weak bolt
#

I can't see anyone staying at Titans, if the RA core is gone, Jehong/Fissure aren't going to stick around for a random NA roster

sullen berry
#

Oh Harrison pond

#

You deserved to be on a scuffed EU Spitfire roster. You really did.

raw ermine
#

oh god

#

actually

#

not a titans situation

weak bolt
#

I can see Titans picking up a range of fringe players. Kruise, Logix, Soon, Sharp, Trill etc.

raw ermine
#

prob just retiring or FA

clear crane
#

Soon prob doenst wanna leave home lol

next mesa
#

titans prob just fucking dissolves

weak bolt
#

Doubt they'll dissolve, its probably cheaper to pick up 8 minimum contract players for 1 season

next mesa
#

oh yeah thats true shanghai didnt dissolve after season 1

weak bolt
#

Just do a London, throw in a bunch of cheaper players, minimise your investment

sullen berry
#

@next mesa for your health. Stop reading this as if it were fact. None of this will be true until it comes from the org itself and when they want to make these moves official or not

#

Will retire is gossip

#

As he said on stream, it's not true

next mesa
#

well yeah I know

#

I saw the stream thing

clear crane
#

last 2 points kinda contradict each other lol. unless they want both

raw ermine
#

they want NA and GEN.G players?

#

that's a roster oxymoron

sullen berry
#

Could work I guess

weak bolt
#

Guess its if any Gen.G players willing to move to NA

sullen berry
#

We through dreamer lastro rain plus some western players was dumb at a point in time

earnest leaf
#

the retire part is fake altogether luckily

next mesa
#

the whole thing is already unreliable

clear crane
#

but Gen G players also prob dont have visas rn anyways

next mesa
#

because jehong isnt retiring

earnest leaf
#

Well

sullen berry
#

I can say given they are now down to 7 players

weak bolt
#

I'm guessing Jehong didn't say him leaving titans was just fake news ? :p

earnest leaf
#

Considering two big people already dropped from titans

sullen berry
#

(technically) The only exchanges they can do is buyouts

earnest leaf
#

It's not farfetched that there might be some truth to the post

sullen berry
#

And whether the league rules allow them to continue being 7 players instead of the minimum 8

weak bolt
#

Boston has 6 players at the moment, I think they'd get away with 7

sullen berry
#

With jjanu and seominsoo to fill his place on the interim

next mesa
#

I think all the players are leaving titans but as for signings and stuff i dont know

weak bolt
#

I'd guess someone will have bought out Haskal, and the other Titans players are FA and just negotiating their contract breaks

#

I reckon Jehong will go back to Dynasty with the prospect of being a player/coach and perhaps go the coaching direction long term

next mesa
#

who is dyansty's coach again

sullen berry
#

Some head coach who came from WashingtonJustice

weak bolt
#

Changgoon

#

Been there since mid 2018

sullen berry
#

And uh

weak bolt
#

They have WizardHyeong as 'strategic coach' who was the WJ one

next mesa
#

mmmmmm

sullen berry
next mesa
#

wizardhyeong is like

clear crane
#

ah good ol WizardHyeong

next mesa
#

famous or something

#

im not familiar with the coaches

sullen berry
#

All good

#

They don't have as much visibility in the game after all

weak bolt
#

Dynasty only have 3 supports atm, so adding a 4th allows more potential for internal scrims

#
  • reunites the fan favourites of Tobi & Jehong
next mesa
#

it just doesnt make sense when they already have bdosin

clear crane
#

well they need a MS den, not 3 FS

next mesa
#

as much as I want jehong in dynasty like

weak bolt
#

Don't have to sign him as a starter

next mesa
#

if its just a fan service

#

they dont really need to sign him at all

clear crane
#

i think more likely he does wat miro was,

weak bolt
#

Don't think he joined Titans expecting to be a starter over Rapel

sullen berry
#

You wouldn't resign a player back to be a starter

next mesa
#

twilight

weak bolt
#

thats the one

next mesa
#

yeah I know

#

it was same situation with titans

sullen berry
#

I don't know of any that has happened to date in an OW League team

raw ermine
#

Well lets narrow down where could go

#

Atlanta-No

#

Bostion-Not likely

weak bolt
#

Resign him back, get the fans on side, cheaper contract, have him help the team as more of a back end personality/coach

sullen berry
#

Shanghai? Only to moneyball

raw ermine
#

Chengdu-no

sullen berry
#

And it'd have to be a trade with somebody off their full roster

raw ermine
#

Dallas-Maybe if they go full korean

#

GZC-maybe

weak bolt
#

Do 2 way players count as one of the 12 roster slots?

next mesa
#

shanghai already has izuyaki and luffy

raw ermine
#

yes they do

next mesa
#

@weak bolt yes thats what I hope happens

raw ermine
#

HZS-Probably not

next mesa
#

although on instagram tobi commeneted: where you going?

#

commented*

weak bolt
#

We are also forgetting Twilight is likely to be available, if you're after another support, you'd think he'd be first choice

raw ermine
#

Houston-no

next mesa
#

jeje

#

yeah twilight is just better now

weak bolt
#

I'd like to see Twilight go to NYXL

#

Twilight/JJonak combo sounds pretty sweet

earnest leaf
#

Fissure to outlaws

next mesa
#

I mean

weak bolt
#

Just play Ana/Zen 24/7

next mesa
#

a lot of their heroes kinda intertwine

#

yeah i guess

clear crane
#

Fissure might just retire again

outer zenith
#

I like Ryujehong as much as the next person, but at this point he's just a beloved personality. Where he ends up is mostly inconsequential.

next mesa
#

what if the whole team just skurt back to contenders

weak bolt
#

Fissure will at least be setting himself as #1 rank, in most teams played for

next mesa
#

nobody would really want fissure though

#

skills aside

worn falcon
#

he could be a coach

#

Coach Ana PogChimp

karmic grotto
#

Twilight to Defiant

outer zenith
#

Outside of the ongoing developments with Vancouver, the only thing confirmed have been the retirement of a few NA and EU players. But none as far as Korean and Chinese players are concerned. I find that the most interesting takeaway.

karmic grotto
#

oh fuck

#

I mean SLIME

weak bolt
#

Rumours are this season Fissure has matured a lot since last season, if true, I could see him picked up

sullen berry
#

@outer zenith yeah the scene in China more so. It's stagnated at worst

weak bolt
#

surely we have to assume the Titans players won't be joining NA teams, otherwise why even leave Titans in first place

sullen berry
#

Korean players from t2 are still more than capable replacements to their OW League equivalent

earnest leaf
#

I'd say fissure to justice wouldn't be too bad

#

but lullish could escape visa hell

sullen berry
#

And EU stepping up imo with what's left

outer zenith
#

Mmhm.

#

I think we're going to see quite a few more T2 Korean players stepping up.

sullen berry
#

Lullshish should just move on or find a realistic way to get back onto Justice sooner, given visa hell

weak bolt
#

Anyone know what the English skills of the Titans Runaway players is? I can't recall them ever being on a non-korean roster

clear crane
#

Besides Fissure? no idea

sullen berry
#

Little to non-existent if I'm going to be honest

weak bolt
#

So I doubt we'd ever see them on any roster that isn't full korean

sullen berry
#

If you play overseas, you'd get English lessons to interact with fans less awkwardly at best

weak bolt
#

Narrows you down to the asian based teams, excluding Chengdu

#

As I think Chengdu communicate in Chinese?

clear crane
#

Chengdu has 0 koreans so prob safe to assume that haha

sullen berry
#

Well think back to birdring. Assuming spitfire did a hell of a lot of English development out of game with him

weak bolt
#

I hope Dynasty pick up Jehong and Haskal, NXYL pick up Slime, GZC grab Twilight

#

Spark grabbing Twilight could be interesting, but they have ColdesT coming of age soonish I think?

cloud latch
#

I don't see nyxl picking slime since they already have anamo and mandu

true hound
#

they don’t really need more players

weak bolt
#

Ah crap yeah I forgot Mandu

sullen berry
#

Rumors currently point to spark and charge are not in competition to pick at the scraps of a broken titans roster

true hound
#

They wouldn’t need Jjanu considering they have hotba and Bianca

sullen berry
#

Rumors of Mandu on Charge 2019 LUL

clear crane
#

Isnt ColdesT already at age? i forgot who was supposed to be the "hot prospect" besides Sp9rkle

weak bolt
#

Charge have a very small roster atm, guess it all depends on how quick they can get Wya/Neptuno back

#

No backup tanks or supports currently

#

But I guess they are potentially an English speaking roster, so yeah...

clear crane
#

Titans to drop more news plz

weak bolt
#

Runaway to Valorant is my best guess at this situation

next mesa
#

what

true hound
#

lmao

next mesa
#

well on the other hand I cant wait for dragons vs nyxl

true hound
#

^

#

I wanna see a shock upset tho

#

Outlaws vs shock

weak bolt
#

I'm more waiting for Philly to play a better team so see how good they actually are

next mesa
#

I mean

weak bolt
#

Although their next 3 matches are Paris, Fuel and Titans 😦

next mesa
#

philly kinda rolled nyxl right

#

well not rolled

weak bolt
#

True, but nyxl looked like a totally different team then vs now

next mesa
#

I just really really hope that the nyxl vs dragons match isnt another 3-0

#

we've had so many 3-0s

true hound
#

^

#

Battle of Texas was a relief

weak bolt
#

I'd accept a 3-0 to Dragons, at least then we can for sure establish them as #1

next mesa
#

thats booooooring

weak bolt
#

Maybe, but having an established #1 means that you get big upsets which are fun

true hound
#

We got fusion vs Paris 3

weak bolt
#

Whats the bans this week again?

#

Widow/Mcree + ?

next mesa
#

mercy and ball

weak bolt
#

ah, Paris may be able to put up a fight then if they can run Rein

true hound
#

Rip chengdu

#

yep

#

Paris no rein = Paris gets stomped

weak bolt
#

I'd guess we'll see lots of Carpe torb again to try counter Soon Tracer

clear crane
#

I need Dragons vs Philly/Shock

sullen berry
#

No wrecking Ball makes panda sad

true hound
#

but torb strats don’t always work against Tracer

#

At least decay just flew around it

sullen berry
#

Leave can't play anything worth this time waiting to be in OW League for (his play on legs is fine but he can't be that excited)

#

Molly and lengsa/yveltal is pretty good

weak bolt
#

Decay played round a WJ torb, not a Carpe torb lol

tropic herald
#

I’m just saying

#

Please pick up Team Doge Vancouver

#

#stomped

#

Wait

#

Some of them are too young

#

Shoot

#

Okay

#

If Vancouver is picking up a contenders team

#

Realistically it’s TI?

sullen berry
#

If it's a tight budget, they're going after T1 or gen.g for a Korean core

#

NA players can't be too hard to pick if they've only started prospecting

weak bolt
#

Titans gonna need a coach too lol

#

Pick up Bren, Sideshow, Jake, Custa, Reinforce & Jaws, and can probably scrape a win against Boston

raw ermine
#

lmaoo

#

don't do em like that

#

imagine fissure on 5 different teams

weak bolt
#

Fissure to Paris could be interesting if Paris want to go full Korean

#

With this new format, winning the may tournament is not a small amount of money, wonder if any teams will make signings to try recoup it back through those

balmy wolf
#

Why wasn’t Sinatraa playing in the last overwatch league round? Was it because of the rumours of him retiring?

echo quest
#

No

#

He basically said he lost his drive to improve and be the leader which was evident in scrims

#

So he was taken out of the dps rotation

#

Otherwise he said he would have started a lot of matches cuz crusty would have wanted him too

tropic herald
#

Wait

#

Kellex is gone

round cargo
#

any ow pros that havent quit yet?

weak bolt
#

Those who play no aim heroes

digital cloud
#

so is third impact one of the better contenders teams?

tropic herald
#

They are pretty good

#

Don’t quote me on this but they were allegedly rolling OWL teams in scrims

#

Don’t know what team

weak bolt
#

Probably one of the only contenders teams at this stage lol?

digital cloud
#

well, some high profile ones are gone

#

but a lot still exist

tawny sigil
#

how many pro players left to go play valorant?

balmy wolf
#

Is the nyxl game in 12 hours or sunday

raw ermine
#

12 hours

barren quest
#

Tommorow

#

Like early in the morning

raw ermine
#

assuming you mean the shanghai one

balmy wolf
#

Yed hope it wont be a 3-0 kinda boring seeing them all weeks

raw ermine
#

That match will be the best of the week

#

don't worry

balmy wolf
#

unless somehow its another shitstomp

#

which i hope it isnt

karmic grotto
#

Not sure if zombs is high as what when Dafran hosted him he was happy and said

#

"Sentinels Dafran..."

raw ermine
#

that's possible

#

cause selfless synergy

#

but who know

#

idk if dafran even wants to scrim any more

#

maybe for valorant

balmy wolf
#

I mean theres hint that babybay is going to get signed for sentinels and theres only 1 last spot left

raw ermine
#

ppl are saying that's a jebait

#

but again, who knows

karmic grotto
#

Actually

balmy wolf
#

I mean dafran is in a whole another region rn so playing with him is gonna be a pain

karmic grotto
#

Dafran was very happy

#

Finally a game competitive with equal skill

#

He had a good day today

balmy wolf
#

but I wouldn't be surprised if he got on

karmic grotto
#

Ended stream with immortal 1

#

Dude gonna get valorant rank tomorrow

tawny sigil
#

the casters... they just want to fuck off this game and play valorant or something, they're all streaming it

#

then you have random ironic slips like this

weak bolt
#

Hero pools changed, they now only impact Masters/GM, and are based off OWL usage

tawny sigil
#

change, again?

#

make sense i guess

#

that change make more sense than affecting the lower tier aswell

weak bolt
#

yeah seems to make sense. I guess niche one tricks in GM will be happy

outer zenith
#

Masters and above, eh? The folks actually did it.

#

Well, well.

#

This is going to bring it's own host of issues though.

#

There are absolutely players out there who will throw games to get below the SR thresholds on weeks where their hero(es) of choice is banned.

#

And the incentive to smurf is also amplified for similar reasons.

#

But, it is what it is.

weak bolt
#

More than likely, but I can't imagine its a lot. They likely to just swap to a smurf account

#

Might have a slightly negative impact on the Diamond/masters border, but good for everything below & above imo

outer zenith
#

Bottom line is, the game needs a proper ban system. There's no way around it.

#

You'd get the benefits that this system allows while minimizing the drawbacks.

weak bolt
#

This is another step in the right direction though, thats enough for me atm

#

At least OWL will get proper hero pools again

tropic herald
#

Finally got my tokens

digital cloud
#

thought it wasn't til may 6?

#

well, cool anyway

#

this will surely resurrect OWL's chances

raw ermine
#

ayy me too

tropic herald
#

Is this a hot take

raw ermine
#

Well

#

They are a good team

#

but 8th?

digital cloud
#

yeah, they do look nice

raw ermine
#

maybe, maybe not

digital cloud
#

I dunno

raw ermine
#

who tf is that

digital cloud
#

who is 8th right now

raw ermine
#

paris

digital cloud
#

hmm

#

they are a bit inconsistent

raw ermine
#

well

#

above them are london

#

who haven't played them in forever

digital cloud
#

I bet they could beat London

raw ermine
#

so I would consider them lower

digital cloud
#

Impact

raw ermine
#

yeha

#

wait

#

that spice adams thing premiers in 11 min

rare magnet
raw ermine
#

man he does

true hound
#

Paris is good

#

...until Rein is pooled

raw ermine
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I agree with the sentiment about the echo tourney and the breakable barriers

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those were fun to watch and garnered lots of attention

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and it was great to see a bunch of streamers throw together a team

normal basin
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is it bad to like the spitfire??

raw ermine
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no

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liking a team isn't bad

tropic herald
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Wow

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Ngl that update was very nice

raw ermine
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tokens finally

tropic herald
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If they can continue to have this transparency that would make the community much happier

true hound
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we like to shit on blizz a lot

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but theyve honestly stepped up their game

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first the cc reductions, mei nerfs, fixing the hero pools to what the community wants, and now listening to our concerns about OWL

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ill take it

outer zenith
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Solid update.

severe swallow
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WHO

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IS

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READYYYYYYYYYYYYYY

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poor Hangzhou

balmy wolf
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staying up until 4 am 😢

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just for a damn game

rotund sail
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3-1 NYXL

balmy wolf
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I'm hoping NYXL does not disappoint

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or I'm coming to their houses

rotund sail
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3-0 Dynasty

severe swallow
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lmao

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poor hangzhou tho

balmy wolf
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For sure we won’t see Echo because Mercy is banned

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shame

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*Too much Echo

severe swallow
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LMAOOOOOOOo

balmy wolf
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rip profit

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interesting how they both duplicated Winston though...

severe swallow
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Imagine Godsb tries Echo

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that'd be interesting

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WAIT SEOUL LOST!?

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I'm just suprised

balmy wolf
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NA production

severe swallow
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I love these goons