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balmy wolf
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Idk

digital cloud
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isn't there a character who rezzes too?

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look at TF2 for an example of when there is a character with an OP ability akin to that

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the whole meta revolves around killing the Medic

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I can imagine a "roamer" whos whole job is to kill that one character to prevent rezzes

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and that that one character and counter character will be must picks

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sounds really dumb

wispy raven
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I think Valorant is so hyped because Overwatch and CS players are finding the games stale

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And there is a need for a new fps

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I'm not including battle royales

digital cloud
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I guess, but the concept of putting the two together in such a way is just . . . bad

wispy raven
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I guess it's to please both audiences and make them stay

digital cloud
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the resurrections thing when you have no other way to "respawn" will determine the outcome

wispy raven
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Competitive players will stay if so many people play it

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Eh res is not that broken

digital cloud
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if more than one character can do it, maybe

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if not, it is, objectively, in a game where you do not respawn otherwise

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there may be limitations on whether or not it makes sense to try to "assassinate" that character specifically, but that probably alters the game the most, other than the see through walls thing

wispy raven
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I mean on paper it looks OP but Res isn't really a broken ult

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You are vulnerable for like 4 seconds

digital cloud
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the ability to return a teammate at pro levels?

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that is OP

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imagine CS:GO with that

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I suppose you could camp the spots where the people you killed died?

wispy raven
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Could

digital cloud
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certainly there are interesting aspects to it

wispy raven
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Especially if they die in choke points

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Then Res is pretty useless

digital cloud
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but overall, the concept is really not good

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either it saves the game for you, possibly, or is too useless to even use

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seems like that character would be like Mercy during the moth meta

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or Mercy now

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useless

jagged crater
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never had a problem with rez in Valorant, it's pretty balanced

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Sage's wall and slow is the strongest part of her kit

digital cloud
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not to be that guy, but there is a big difference between the pros and the common man

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I can see the wall also being a big deal, but the ability to bring a player back is theoretically very powerful

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is there a time limit on the resurrection?

jagged crater
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It is powerful but it is not the reason Sage is a must pick

balmy wolf
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sage is a must pick because of her strength in locking down a site

jagged crater
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because of her wall and slow

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same with cypher

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it's not because of his walls ult

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it's because he can lockdown a site with traps

balmy wolf
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the heal and rez is just a cherry on top

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once sage has taken or is defending a site, u better play it right or you're gonna lose most rounds because of her

jagged crater
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I think the ults are not nearly as strong as they are in Overwatch

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For the most part

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for starters ults are pretty rare unless you're on a rampage

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and they're more situational

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except Raze ult fuck that ult lol

digital cloud
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it sounds then more like the ults tend to be more pointless

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if they are rare and situational

jagged crater
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not pointless, they're still strong

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when used correctly

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Think of it this way: Ults can be round changing , it can singlehandedly win you a round

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but you have to hit it right, it's not like overwatch where u press Q to win a fight

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cept raze, her ult is almost a guarantee kill if you know where your enemy is

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But having a strong ult means you're balanced in having weaker utility

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so I think raze is balanced in that regard, just not fun to play against when you get smashed by explosives

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The margin of error with a Valorant Ult is greater than the margin of error with an Overwatch Ult

true hound
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^ Sinatraa note

jagged crater
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oh gosh gonna miss the sinatraa & super shenanigans

true hound
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his last note for super is perfect

raw ermine
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5head

jagged crater
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reminds me of danteh's twitlonger
super was at the end too getting meme'd on

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super is the king of OWL memes I guess

limpid estuary
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straight up just lost passion for the game. idk what the real killer was for me but maybe it was 2-2-2 lock maybe it was bans im not sure
So it wasn't just burnout, or just a different game popping up, but feeling the game was going in a less fun direction?

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Will be weird when the MVP skin drops for a player that retired.

true hound
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yeah

jagged crater
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def both
Burnout with old game + new shiny game hype

true hound
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at least hes not leaving for problems with OWL/Devs

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thatd definitely look bad for Blizz

jagged crater
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good chance akm is following suit since he's retiring too

limpid estuary
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I think it still looks bad for blizz considering he namedropped both 2-2-2 and bans

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Could be worse though, I suppose

jagged crater
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The Dallas Bench i.e. akm trill and zacharee , ive watching Valorant streams and I always see those guys grinding Valorant very often

worn falcon
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I mean, like any people can be bored after grinding the game for hours

jagged crater
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yea it's perfectly reasonable I think

balmy wolf
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playing non-stop for 4 year easily does that for you

digital cloud
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and then there are the machines that play pretty much only the game they are pros in

jagged crater
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what really hurts is it's sinatraa, not just any other OWL player

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he's basically the face of OWL

digital cloud
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nah, that's definitely Rawkus

jagged crater
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nah def not rawkus anymore

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kinda disappeared after season 1

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to a casual viewer, i think more people know sinatraa than rawkus

balmy wolf
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sinatraa actually won the league and was on a good team

jagged crater
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sinatraa is OWL mvp, OWL champ and World Cup MVP
He was on tonight show
He had 150k memes with twitch
He played with Jeff to demonstrate Echo recently
Dude is basically face of recent pro OW

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and he's got interesting memorable facial features

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rawkus has a big butt

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but anyway just based on accolades alone, sinatraa is the face of pro overwatch

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whether you like him or not, i know he's got a history of toxicity

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Dude had it all, he was on the best team and appeared like the best player to a casual viewer's eyes

vernal obsidian
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the king is gone 👑

jagged crater
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and mid-season he dips for another game

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this looks very bad on Overwatch

digital cloud
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that is not good optics

vernal obsidian
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overwatch is not fun anymore because the game is too much about metagaming and not mechanical skill

jagged crater
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and me personally having played Valorant and watched a lot of Valorant streams, the game has potential

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Valorant might actually end up killing competitive Overwatch

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or at least one factor to it. Hero bans I think have further accelerated the burnout. There's a new meta to practice every other week

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I won't say OW dies completely, there's still a niche that no other game can satisfy

echo quest
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I was right

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I called it lmao

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But tbh if anyone watched hi stream it made perfect sense

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The dude skirted every question about valorant for 2 hours

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And Sinatraa is not allowed to play for nrg

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Cuz of league rules

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Well owl Finna die in a few years

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Role lock was dumb shit for higher ranks

tight bramble
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F for sinatraa

raw ermine
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k

echo quest
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Damn son

forest token
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funni spam hahaha

echo quest
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The valorant discord is having a field day with sinatraa’s announcement lmaooooo

limber pine
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I mean who cares

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Good for him.

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We poached TF2, LoL, and CS pros and talent when OWL got started

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Valorant doing the same

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The game after that will do the same

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Ppl need to realize this shit happens

digital cloud
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dude is doing what is best for his career

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doesn't mean it is easy to see OWL dying

balmy wolf
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I mean if you think all the teams being formed rn are gonna be the best a year after valorant is released then you're lying to yourself

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the best players in the game always come after its been released after a while

digital cloud
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so it is, so it will be

echo quest
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@limber pine I wouldn’t normally care

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But he was the mvp

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This wasn’t some average pro

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Or washed player

limber pine
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For 3 stages. After role lock he didn’t play as much as before, and he hasn’t played a lot this season.

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I’m not calling him a nobody either, but let’s not pretend he’s been an every game starter

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But as I said before, good for him

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He’s gonna do what he likes and make a shit ton of money doing it

echo quest
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Hopefully valorant is here for a long time and blizzard learns from it

balmy wolf
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blizz doesnt learn shit

digital cloud
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yeah, good luck with them learning anything

echo quest
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Got super bummed when 3rd party tournament weren’t allowed

balmy wolf
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they literally had templates on how to make a good esports scene from other games and still fucked it up

echo quest
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Monthly beats and the carbon series was dope

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Got me into pro play

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Sinatraa said he knows nothing about his skin

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Interesting

balmy wolf
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yea cuz he leaked the hero and they stop talking to him about it

true hound
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@echo quest OGN apex slapped

tropic herald
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Incoming Mano skin

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Sinatraa skin cancelled lol

echo quest
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Can’t do that lmaoo

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That be disrespectful

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Can’t take away what he did in s2

true hound
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Give it to J a k e

echo quest
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Facts

true hound
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J omegalul ke

digital cloud
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nah, DreamKazper would be ideal

true hound
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Lmao

digital cloud
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he stands for all the great ideals of Boston

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their motto: no one too young

true hound
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Mouffin for mvp S3

strong fox
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Looking for team

raw ermine
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Is Sayaplayer rumored to retire also?

tropic herald
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That was the first TwitLonger that was FeelsStrongMan

echo quest
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Apparently you aren’t allowed to go to the org you were associated with in owl

echo quest
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Sinatraa said he’ll still play ow occasionally

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Poggers

raw ermine
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Yeah right

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Once a year

digital cloud
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beautiful LIES

balmy wolf
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Why did sinatraa quit

true hound
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burnout

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fell outta the gam

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e

balmy wolf
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Ooo

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Sad

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That happend to me after grinding on zen lol

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Coincidince

echo quest
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@digital cloud maybe

balmy wolf
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Lol

sullen berry
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We poached TF2, LoL, and CS pros and talent when OWL got started
@limber pine mood

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its not that isnt leaving without an impact on OW League

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he's become part of food chain of players moving on

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fan retention is no different. if they make it to a 4th season with the remaining talent left this is still a great watch

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just to see how and what theyre doing to keep it operating

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@sleek zephyr nice one, coach

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calling it legit in 5 years

sharp niche
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Is anyone a houston outlaws fan?

digital cloud
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yes

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probably not much longer

leaden stratus
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Bro Sinatra is levaing ow for Valorant? thats actually rough.

echo quest
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He is

honest lynx
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lol ok

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now he's a "pro valorant player"

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not even out of beta yet jeez

karmic grotto
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but the game will come out of beta

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nothing wrong with it

upper niche
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Current OW pros were switching to OW when it was in beta.

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Look at players like Cooller who jumped straight across to Quake Champions in beta, even though he was a seasoned player going back as far as Q3.

limpid estuary
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Look at players like Cooller who jumped straight across to Quake Champions in beta, even though he was a seasoned player going back as far as Q3.
In the defense of Quake pros

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Quake Champions really screwed up duel

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Around when Overwatch was really taking off

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Unreal Tournament also released an awful patch that reworked core guns that were mainstays of the franchise in the patch that released when the OW beta came out

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All the big arena shooters got screwed by Overwatch and poor decisions

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So pros of those would have been inclined to move on

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It looks like the same is happening to Valorant

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Controversial local update (2-2-2, hero pools, general balance and health, OW2) + New Game = New eSPorts focus

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Buy lets see how the rest of this season plays out first.

hidden vault
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I'm surprised he jumped in this period when owl is still on going

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There isn't any valorant competitions going on yet right?

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Because owl still provides a stable income

upper niche
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OWL isn't brining in sponsor dollars and those kinds of income streams.

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sponsors wont get behind OWL players because they see through the viewer figures.

fervent oasis
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also people like sinatraa are getting generous amounts of $$ from val teams

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and if leaves bc he finds the game more enjoyable than ow i don’t blame him LOL

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ow kinda dead

formal kindle
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Sina is on Sentinels

fervent oasis
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poster boy league mvp leaves 😔

formal kindle
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overwatch isn't dead KEKW

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i've heard so many people say that over all these years and its still pulled through

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its in a rough spot right now but its gonna stick around

fervent oasis
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in the end ow’s had its time to shine. valorants the hype rn & riots gonna be pouring a lot of resources into it.

formal kindle
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ow2 releasing will help

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and blizz needs to support T2 and T3

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and listen to the community better

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and do actual balancing

fervent oasis
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ow2 will either make or break the game ngl gotta see how blizz takes it upon them to get that done

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and facts

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t2/3 kinda super sad

last idol
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Valorant hype will die real quick

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The game will be still super popular but not as of rn imo

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Streamers are jumping in the trend but after all they get more viewers with their main game

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Es dafran or ml7

upper niche
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Valorant will probably steal more from CSGo than OW I think.

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Or other games like Cod, tarkov.

dapper raptor
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truee

grave sail
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has dafran gone back to ow yet

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since he started playing valorant i havent seen him streaming ow at all

steel scroll
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Honestly I think Dafran is gonna stay with valorant for a while and i cant blame him. Overwatch is getting stale. On the bright side, this should push the overwatch team to work more

grave sail
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On the bright side, this should push the overwatch team to work more

Not really no... They are commiting all their time rn into ow2 so I don't think they are going to do any huge update for ow1 any time soon. Honestly unless OW2 is absolutely incredible, it seems like this is the death of OW

true hound
echo quest
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@honest lynx players jumped on OW the same way

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I think people are mixing up with the pro scene dying with the actual game

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The game will always have a fanbase because how unique it is

raw ermine
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Dhak is 31 today

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wow

echo quest
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Goddamn

raw ermine
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4:04

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I wonder how this will affect the chinese OWL market

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Well, I guess its OW only, but still

balmy wolf
short sparrow
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5HEAD AHAHAHAHHAHAH

inland flare
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lol no

outer oxide
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😭

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sinatraa

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we will love u

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I just read it

sleek zephyr
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Guess there was nothing else for sinatraa to do

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He won world cup, he got OWL mvp, he won OWL

digital cloud
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could win twice

balmy wolf
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or maybe he just likes another game

digital cloud
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probably likes the thought of having a career in a game that isn't dying

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makes sense

hot heart
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Welp

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OW is dead

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For real now

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There is no way this game doesnt die

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And if it does manage to barely get to OW2

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That wont be enough

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🇫

karmic grotto
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OW is not dead. Stop spreading lies

digital cloud
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not yet

raw ermine
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Difference between OW esports and OW

digital cloud
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but it is definitely getting there, at the rate it is going

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they reflect each other, I think

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Overwatch is less played now than recently, according to some stats I have seen

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but I don't have access to official ones

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from Blizzard

tight kestrel
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The fact that someone says [x game] is dead. It's the proof that the game is not dead. Nobody talks about dead games

digital cloud
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people still talk about Artifact

supple prism
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everything gets played less overtime

tight kestrel
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Some people still meme about Artifact

digital cloud
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my point being that it is not necessarily true, but I do get what you mean

balmy wolf
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which one would be better to buy rein NYXl or genji NYXL ?

echo quest
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Genji

supple prism
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shock rein, titan genji

swift moth
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the game is not dead unless you know every single player who still plays the game

balmy wolf
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CS, fornite, OW, etc. They’re all defined as dead games by their community since Valorant. All games are potential dead games, temporarily alive, until they’re not anymore. It’s just a question of time.

raw ermine
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https://liquipedia.net/overwatch/EFFECT

Liquipedia Overwatch Wiki
EFFECT

Hyeon "EFFECT" Hwang is a South Korean player who recently played for the Dallas Fuel. Before Stage 4 of the Inaugural Season began, EFFECT returned to South Korea, and did not come back to Los Angeles for the rest of the Season. However, he later announced that he would be b...

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Here it is mentioned that Effect is the 3rd LGBT player in OWL

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Ik Muma is one of them, but whose the second?

tropic herald
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Elk?

raw ermine
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lemme see

tropic herald
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Yes

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It’s Elk

raw ermine
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yeah

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checked his twitter

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thx

jagged crater
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OW wont truly die, the large casual fanbase has no interest in Valorant

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however its competitive scene might be a chunky bit smaller

true hound
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unless we get like

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an actual T2

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and third party tournaments

raw ermine
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I could see bliz just holding monthly tourneys like the echo one

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if OWL fails

jagged crater
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even if Valorant takes a large amount from CSGO, I see no worry for CSGO. I worry for OW tho

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OW will still have its niche because no other game is like it

raw ermine
tropic herald
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Anotha one bites the dust

raw ermine
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Beautiful

echo quest
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Damn the haffi one is a feelsbadman

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He was legit OWL quality

karmic grotto
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no.

echo quest
swift moth
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hopefully he comes back for ow2

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I liked watching his games :(

swift moth
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also isn't it a bit early to make valorant teams, the game is still in beta

digital cloud
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I would say so

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I mean, the people that have already joined aren't even the best of the ones they left

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best players*

echo quest
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Players did the same thing for the OW beta

worn falcon
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People from other games jumped to OW

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so happens when a new game is on the line

true hound
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people jumped ship from tf2 to OW

hazy edge
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SAMITO JOINED FLORIDA MAYHEM

digital cloud
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as a streamer?

raw ermine
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Dang I thought it was fake

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but its real

dawn vale
digital cloud
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what

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NO

steep wren
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wow

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just saw this on ig

raw ermine
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...

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and the implosion starts

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where they getting another Off tank?

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nvm

steep wren
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idk

raw ermine
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its jehong on MT

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double MT

steep wren
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lets go

raw ermine
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ez

steep wren
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pogu

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there will happen a spitfire i think

digital cloud
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he was good, ok

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Ryujetank

raw ermine
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He's gotta be picked up soon

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Boston could use a OT

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lmao

digital cloud
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well

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not sure he would want Boston

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not many will now, I think

cloud latch
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maybe seoul?

digital cloud
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do they need him?

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I mean, he might be an upgrade

cloud latch
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does jjanu play a good sig?

raw ermine
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it's decent

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would rather play Dva

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out of all players, I didn't expect JJANU

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Haksal maybe

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but jjanu

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He didn't even do the twitter protest thing

steep wren
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cant wait for a titans wipe :/

worn falcon
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Who needs a offtank?

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Boston?

digital cloud
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yeah, but who wants them right now?

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no one

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even contenders players probably don't

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and JJanu actually has prospects

cloud latch
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dallas?

digital cloud
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hmmm

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that would work, maybe

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jjanu I think isn't a one trick like note

worn falcon
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JJanu over Note

karmic grotto
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lmao

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titans gone mad

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fissure no drama

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drama comes to him

digital cloud
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thing is, dallas has really good players, but bad synergy

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yeah, this is about when Fissure should be calling it in

earnest leaf
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Poor fissure

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finally gets on a solid stable team

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just for them to implode

digital cloud
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poor fissure?

worn falcon
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yes

digital cloud
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he is the reason he wasn't on solid teams

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team looks solid?

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time to quit

worn falcon
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nah, fissure was doing very well and wanted to fix his mistakes

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then titans implodes

digital cloud
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maybe now he is, but his history still makes me suspicious

echo quest
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That’s tuff

worn falcon
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this time was management shit, even coaches disliked management

hot heart
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🦀 Titans are fucked 🦀

worn falcon
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he free now

hot heart
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HOLY

digital cloud
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oof

raw ermine
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free

hot heart
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Where is he going?

karmic grotto
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free to go any owl team

raw ermine
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thats

digital cloud
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what a way to describe it

raw ermine
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disturbing

clear crane
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Yikesss Titans imploding 😦

hot heart
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A little@raw ermine

raw ermine
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His twitter description is FA

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so he isn't retiring

worn falcon
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Free from management shit

hot heart
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Id be surprised it jjanu retired

karmic grotto
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inb4, they gonna sign DACO

hot heart
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*if

karmic grotto
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@hot heart he's FA

hot heart
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Yeah

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He has to go somewhere

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Maybe

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Just maybe

worn falcon
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yes, to Boston

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or Dallas

hot heart
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Dont even@worn falcon

karmic grotto
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boston needs help

hot heart
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Boston wouldn't

karmic grotto
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they're out of bounds

hot heart
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Dallas maybe

karmic grotto
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jjanu >>>>>>>>>> brussen

hot heart
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Trueee

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Boston is done i think

clear crane
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Fuck it. Seominsoo OT 🙂

hot heart
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Lmao

digital cloud
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if Boston so much as has one more little scandal, they are doomed

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they may be already

real gyro
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boston already doomed

digital cloud
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well, for the season almost certainly

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I mean more for future recovery

hot heart
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Idk why blizzard havent looked into their management

worn falcon
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monies

echo quest
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I’m not even capping if my only option as an OW pro would be Boston I would retire

worn falcon
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teams are investors at blizz

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so meddling outsiders stuff

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is a no no

hot heart
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Anyone would retire if they were in that position @echo quest

worn falcon
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let them to meddle with their shit

hot heart
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Tbh

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Chances are

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We see this season ended early

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Or something

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Because owl is fucking failing

digital cloud
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we might

hot heart
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T2 is nonexistent

echo quest
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They’ve franchised too so no relegation

hot heart
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Anf VALORANT is looking like A New OW

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Reminds me of 2017 OW Kinda

echo quest
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Nothing will ever happen to Boston because of franchising

hot heart
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Also OWL might be lowered in scale

digital cloud
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not saying Boston is getting removed

hot heart
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Boston getting removed will never happen

digital cloud
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but do you really see it becoming anything other than a toxic waste dump for the rest of OWL at this point?

hot heart
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Dropping out is another thing tho

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Tbh

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Nah

rotund sail
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ok so how many people are fa/ retiree in the past week?

echo quest
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A team like that exists in Every league tbh

hot heart
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Its just where people go when they have nothing

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Some people dont do that

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And just retire

digital cloud
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well, true, but it was arguably the dragons or mayhem for a while

hot heart
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I think like 3 maybe?@rotund sail

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Jjanu

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Sinatraa

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Nvm

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Swimmer was last week

echo quest
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Haffi

raw ermine
hot heart
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Oh yeah

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Slime lmao

echo quest
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Kaiser will probably retire too

hot heart
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Yeah

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Imagine

rotund sail
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akm too

hot heart
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Oh right

digital cloud
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NOT KAISER

#

HE IS TOO GOOD

echo quest
#

One of the coaches of Titans

hot heart
#

Completely forgot about akm

echo quest
#

Just left

hot heart
#

What

digital cloud
#

what

clear crane
hot heart
#

What???????

clear crane
#

the head coach is out

#

time to burn it all down!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

raw ermine
#

ooooooof

hot heart
#

"Diffucult decision"

clear crane
hot heart
#

Bro

digital cloud
worn falcon
#

the imploding has started

hot heart
#

Boston and titans are fucked

#

Oh my god this is fucking it

#

OWL's gone

clear crane
#

Nah

#

I think this is more of an issue between the Titan players/coaches and the owners

#

you dont see this implosion with the other teams

hot heart
#

Yeah

#

Buy

#

*but

clear crane
#

As season 3 as a whole, yes its fucked cause of corona-chan

hot heart
#

Holy shit

raw ermine
#

hmm

clear crane
#

but thats why i think its worth waiting for season 4 to judge the future

raw ermine
#

jjanu was released 34 min ago approx

hot heart
#

They lost an mvp canidate and their head coach

raw ermine
#

pajion 4 min

clear crane
#

assuming homestands and blah blah still happen

raw ermine
#

next release in in 26 min

echo quest
#

Viewership been dog shit

hot heart
#

Yeah

#

Remember seeing like 26k viewers

karmic grotto
#

I wonder

#

if blizzard released OW to be free

hot heart
#

Or 19k even

karmic grotto
#

Would OW have bigger audience?

hot heart
#

Probably

#

Not OWL

digital cloud
#

I bet, but it may not be much of a difference

hot heart
#

But Ow the game

#

It woulf make some difference

#

But it cant stop the inevitable

echo quest
#

Some Chinese games had like 8k

hot heart
#

Ow is getting stale and the little amount of juice thats left is in comp

#

I mean OWL

#

Its becoming contenders kind of

clear crane
#

Any predictions on whose next? 🙂 I'm thinking Haksal

rotund sail
#

ow in general is tale

#

stale

hot heart
#

People watch rivalry matches or the best teams head to head

#

@echo quest yeesh

#

Thats actually really fucking worrying

#

Bro if nate nanzer were here we'd be better off

steep wren
#

guys

hot heart
#

Not by much

#

But still

steep wren
#

lets throw bets on who the next to go is

raw ermine
#

imma just stay on VT twitter and refresh

hot heart
#

@steep wren twilight

#

Twighlight or haksal

clear crane
hot heart
#

Gone

clear crane
#

Based off this, def more to come I think

hot heart
#

Shit man

#

Please just

digital cloud
#

@steep wren another coach

hot heart
#

Fuck idk

echo quest
#

Titans actually slow bleeding

hot heart
#

I dont wanna see this team die

#

Fucking hell why

rotund sail
#

owl in general is slow bleeding

raw ermine
#

ㄷㄷ
Does anyone know what that means in korean? Haksal said it to JJANU on twitter

hot heart
#

Rip Og RunAway

rotund sail
#

most pros are getting tired of the game

#

why cant OW just do something about it

hot heart
#

Hm

#

We need a translation

digital cloud
#

I think it is like an emote?

hot heart
#

Use google

rotund sail
#

you can have OW 2 if OW 1 is dead

clear crane
grizzled mango
#

Holy sht its all going down

echo quest
#

Flowervin tried so hard to keep this team together

hot heart
#

OH NO THEY DIDN'T

digital cloud
#

why is nyxl doing that

#

geez

raw ermine
#

woahhhh

hot heart
#

NYXL THE MAD LADS

raw ermine
#

NYXL

#

lmaoooooo

hot heart
#

Holy shit

digital cloud
#

aren't they on the same side

clear crane
#

I think NYXL is the only team left with the majority of their core from season 1 day 1

hot heart
#

Lmfao

steep wren
#

i thought support line and haksal

raw ermine
#

thats like making fun of someone for having a stroke

steep wren
#

if sinatraa quitting wasnt enough

raw ermine
#

but for OWL teams

clear crane
#

but yea whoever is running that twitter account clearly gives no fks

digital cloud
grizzled mango
#

Imagine fissure is the only one left on the team after today

hot heart
#

Bruh

#

Twitter would blow up

rotund sail
#

owl is dead

digital cloud
#

ok, I think saying it is dead is a bit early

hot heart
#

Yeah

digital cloud
#

but this does not look good for the future

hot heart
#

But were getting there

#

Not long

#

Dude last season of OWL lets go

clear crane
#

prob at least 1 more season

hot heart
clear crane
#

with the YT deal and most org owners are rich billionaires

hot heart
#

Fuck

#

FUCK

#

Whyyyyyyy

raw ermine
#

and pajion

digital cloud
#

wait, did you not see that earlier

calm holly
#

lol

digital cloud
#

I thought you were responding to that all this time

hot heart
#

I did

#

But the graphic makes it a bit more official for me

digital cloud
#

ah

hot heart
#

Hopefully janu gets another opportunity

clear crane
#

Top 3 off tank. prob gets picked up somewhere

hot heart
#

But where tho

clear crane
#

well. last season at least

dawn vale
#

I mean, NYXL are probably the only team that make actual profits due to Andbox

digital cloud
#

we basically decided boston or dallas

hot heart
#

Yeah probably

digital cloud
#

but not boston

#

so dallas

clear crane
#

lol def not boston

hot heart
#

Dallas more than Boston

digital cloud
#

and also we have no idea

clear crane
#

Linkzr did put a smiley face tho

hot heart
#

Boston would probably offer 100k or some dumb shit

echo quest
#

Dallas,Boston or Washington

clear crane
#

hmmmmm

digital cloud
#

boston just no

#

myungbong and jerry need of that ship

#

off*

hot heart
#

Yeah

#

Myungbong on valiant

#

Lets go

echo quest
#

Fuck that

rotund sail
#

so BU and VT are like dead at this point

echo quest
#

Myunbong to the reign

hot heart
#

Makes more sense actually

rotund sail
#

and Spitfire for the time

digital cloud
#

reign have Kodak

hot heart
#

Eh

digital cloud
#

well

echo quest
#

Myunbong is better than Dogman

clear crane
#

lotta ppl better den Dogman lol

digital cloud
#

that is true

grizzled mango
#

Myunbong would be an upgrade for reign

hot heart
#

Yeah

clear crane
#

but they prob want an english speaking FS

hot heart
#

Where would jerry go tho

digital cloud
#

well, the reign seem to have a core they like over the actual best players on their team

hot heart
#

Toronto

#

Idk why im thinking Toronto

digital cloud
#

so not sure dogman is getting replaced soon

hot heart
#

Nvm

#

Logix

digital cloud
#

jerry to houston?

clear crane
#

more interested in seeing who titans will pick up

#

if they are going western

digital cloud
#

linkzr seems to have fallen off

hot heart
#

Who could they pick up

#

Dont have many choices

grizzled mango
#

Titans gonna have like 3 players left by end of day prolly

digital cloud
#

HARBLUE

earnest leaf
#

Linkzr keeps getting his heroes banned

clear crane
#

my gut is that jjanu, pajion, and whoever else is still in korea

next mesa
#

titans

digital cloud
#

HARBLEU*

next mesa
#

are falling apart

tropic herald
#

????????

next mesa
#

jjanu and head coach left already

tropic herald
#

Never would I ever expect Jjanu to leave first

#

Wtf

raw ermine
#

yeah

next mesa
#

why is it surprising

hot heart
#

Maybe he got an offer

#

And left

clear crane
#

dont think hes "first" just first announced by the team. prob more to come in the next hour or so

tropic herald
#

Definitely more are leaving to

grizzled mango
#

Can you get offers while being on team sounds like tempering

hot heart
#

Haksal is 100% gone

next mesa
#

theres going to be more leaving

#

dude I thought titans were ok

#

what about jehong

clear crane
#

i feel so bad for jehong

tropic herald
#

Someone asked Slime and he goes “lulul”

digital cloud
#

he is probably doomed

hot heart
#

Tbh i think its happened before@grizzled mango

next mesa
#

I know right

true hound
#

Jjanu just tweeted out "I am free"

#

bruh

grizzled mango
#

Might as well call him Ryu je gone

true hound
#

Twighlight responded with a thumbs up

hot heart
#

@grizzled mangopepehands

next mesa
#

jehong might just retire

true hound
#

Slime with just "lululul"

next mesa
#

fuck

true hound
#

titans are dead

clear crane
#

all of the Runaway core is def gone

tropic herald
digital cloud
#

ALL JEHONG EVER WANTED WAS A GOOD OWL TEAM

next mesa
#

jehong deserved a ring dude

true hound
#

its sad seeing Runaway just fallin apart

hot heart
#

Bruh

next mesa
#

they might stay together

#

but not in titans

#

idk how though

hot heart
#

We gonna have a hall of fame after this shit

#

Sintraa

grizzled mango
#

Ryujehong might stay if he wanna stay in the league

hot heart
#

Ryujehong

digital cloud
#

I hope jehong stays

next mesa
#

whos gonna sign jehong

hot heart
#

Fucking hell

digital cloud
#

I dunno

echo quest
#

No korean team

grizzled mango
#

Fissure people does as well since he had some clause for having to stay in the team

echo quest
#

Or Chinese

hot heart
#

Probably no one

digital cloud
#

he is better than some supports, but no longer the best

next mesa
#

unless like seoul resigns him

echo quest
#

A mixed roster would like him

#

Seoul won’t

digital cloud
#

sadly, he would likely not be picked back up

next mesa
#

yes he is no longer the best

echo quest
#

They have bdosin and a back up for him

#

Makes zero sense to pickup jehong

grizzled mango
#

Jehong would prolly sign as a coach if he signs anywhere in Asia lmao

digital cloud
#

he could coach, I bet

hot heart
#

Yeah was about to say

tropic herald
next mesa
#

I mean teams might sign jehong just because he is jehong

hot heart
#

Imagine the legend himself coaching you

digital cloud
#

the GOAT

hot heart
#

Bro youd learn so much

tropic herald
hot heart
#

And enjoy learning

echo quest
#

Chengdu,Shanghai,Spark all have better off supports

digital cloud
#

maybe reign over dogman?

next mesa
#

no way

echo quest
#

Would he go mixed tho

digital cloud
#

he can't be worse than dogman

next mesa
#

reign is dogman's team

#

lol

echo quest
#

That’s not the issue. It’s wether he will go to a mixed roster

grizzled mango
#

Jehong prefers Korean team

next mesa
#

like whether or not hes better isnt the issue

digital cloud
#

london?

tropic herald
#

You can bet Jjanu already has offers

grizzled mango
#

But sex big dick

echo quest
#

Myunbong should replace Dogman

next mesa
#

jjanu definitely

#

best offtank

echo quest
#

Dogman got outclassed badly by Alarm

#

KEKW

grizzled mango
#

God boston can't lose more players

next mesa
#

besides maybe choi

echo quest
#

Hanbin is also a monster

digital cloud
#

yeah, Alarm invented outclassing dogman

#

what about Meko

tropic herald
#

The only OTs I can think that are on similar levels is

digital cloud
#

Meko is up there

echo quest
#

He’s pretty good

grizzled mango
#

I think JJanu may make top5 for me. A lot of good off tanks

tropic herald
#

Void Choi Hotba

digital cloud
#

Void?

tropic herald
#

You aren’t rating Void high?

digital cloud
#

from Glads?

#

I mean

tropic herald
#

Have you watched him?

grizzled mango
#

I would put jjanu around void

echo quest
#

Hanbin is definitely the best for me

#

Or Choi

tropic herald
#

Void is no doubt top 5 probably top 3

grizzled mango
#

Hanbin and choi are better than jjanu imo

echo quest
#

Ye

digital cloud
#

well, he is good, but I didn't have him up with choi and hanbin

next mesa
#

mmmmm

#

jjanu is really good

#

mvp candidate

echo quest
#

Tbh there are a lot of good offtanks in owl

tropic herald
#

HanBin is a nutcase too

grizzled mango
#

3 min til we get another announcement?

echo quest
#

I think a lot of off tanks are at a similar just matters about consistency

tropic herald
#

One another note, another team, revival, bites the dust

hot heart
#

Oof

next mesa
#

holy shit

#

where are they gonna sign

#

might as well go back to runaway jeje

grizzled mango
#

Imagine they go back to Korean contenders lmao

raw ermine
#

2 min til next release

#

its been 28 min since paj left

hot heart
#

Who are they dropping

next mesa
#

everyone probably

raw ermine
#

and 58 since JJANU

hot heart
#

Bets in bois

raw ermine
#

place your bets

#

Imma say...

clear crane
#

Haksal

raw ermine
#

Haksal

#

yeah

hot heart
#

Haksal

next mesa
#

haksal

grizzled mango
#

My next bet is twilight

hot heart
#

I see

next mesa
#

yeah twilight for sure

hot heart
#

So

earnest leaf
#

Slime or twilight

digital cloud
#

coach

next mesa
#

coach got dropped already

hot heart
#

4 haksal and 1 twighlight

#

Aight

digital cloud
#

slime is also maybe

hot heart
#

Majority haksal

next mesa
#

like

hot heart
#

I could see sf shock getting haksal

clear crane
#

watch it turn out to be SMS

next mesa
#

idk what fissure and jehongs gonna do

raw ermine
#

no message yet

hot heart
#

Rookie of the year

next mesa
#

why would shock get haksal tho

tropic herald
#

Slime is for sure gone

#

Haksal is Haksal so that too

raw ermine
#

imagine it's all of them

next mesa
#

they have

#

striker

#

but hes hitscan

#

hm

hot heart
#

Might be@raw ermine

digital cloud
#

architect and rascal

hot heart
#

Tbh

raw ermine
#

and ANS

next mesa
#

seominsoo also left

raw ermine
#

arch and rascal is all they need

hot heart
#

Only hero haksal is better than most of them at is genji

grizzled mango
#

Nothing yet?

raw ermine
#

it's been 31 min

#

maybe tommorrow?

hot heart
#

His mei is good

#

But rascal is a God mei

next mesa
#

haksal is a very good projectile overall

#

like genji doom pharah

clear crane
#

but thats what arch is for

next mesa
#

yeah

hot heart
#

His doom

#

Is almost on par with sinatraas

grizzled mango
#

I guess its gonna take a while imagine having to write like 8 different blurb for "thank you for your time with us sorry you had to leave good luck"

hot heart
#

Yeah

#

Just filler that no one cares about

digital cloud
#

just use a template geez

tropic herald
#

Waiting for the next release

next mesa
#

obviously the players wanted to leave

#

im curious what fissure and jehong would do tho

hot heart
#

Probably stay on titans

grizzled mango
#

Fissure and jehong tank line let's go

hot heart
#

Jehong would retire

#

Makes sense to me

tropic herald
#

Jehong is at the point where he could feasibly retire or become a coach

raw ermine
#

true

hot heart
#

Yeah

#

I would rather he become a coach

#

Then retire

next mesa
#

yes

#

fissure and jehong

#

best tanks

clear crane
#

dammit no news 😦

grizzled mango
#

It's been 35 minutes I need more juice

digital cloud
#

the speculation is enough for me

clear crane
#

in other news, xzi is supposed to be back may or june

digital cloud
#

imagine xzi and sparkle together

#

the horror

tropic herald
#

With HanBin

digital cloud
#

and then there is benbest

clear crane
#

yup. sp9rkle turns 18 may 31st, so chances are xzi's next game will see his old EM OT and flex dps

digital cloud
#

LOL

tropic herald
#

BenBest isn’t terrible

digital cloud
#

compared to the rest, he is

grizzled mango
#

Benbest has been playing well this season

hot heart
#

Half of the team that fucked contenders gauntlet

#

Wait

digital cloud
#

yeah, and like half of Atlanta reign too

#

until they met them in Gaunlet

#

gauntlet*

tropic herald
#

Daily Reminder: Stan LeeJaeGon

hot heart
#

HanBin Sp9rk1e Xzi FdGod

#

Holy shit

digital cloud
#

hold on

hot heart
#

Top 4 team

#

Top 5 at worst

digital cloud
#

Sp9rkle could be washed

#

remember Flow3r

clear crane
#

Flow3r had an injury

digital cloud
#

I thought he got it later

hot heart
#

But if he wasnt @digital cloud

true hound
#

god sparkle

digital cloud
#

if not

#

then yeah

#

top 4 easy

hot heart
#

If not

#

Hes benched

#

Nico God Hand bois

next mesa
#

any news

digital cloud
#

I imagine at least half the people that have been discussing are refreshing twitter rn

#

or however than works

hot heart
#

Nah i dont think so

tropic herald
#

This tweet hit to hard

digital cloud
#

umm, really

#

what about Meta Athena?

hot heart
#

How about be quiet for a sec

#

This went from funny as fuck

#

To depressing as hell

jagged crater
#

is the whole team just leaving?

#

what even happens to the titans

hot heart
#

Most of them

tropic herald
#

Well

true hound
#

none of the other members have left yet

tropic herald
#

Lots of the team is leaving

clear crane
#

I would say Runaway is prob 3rd biggest legacy team in ow history

true hound
#

there is a possibility yes

tropic herald
#

And uhhh

#

It’d be crazy if any of them didn’t get picked up elsewhere

true hound
#

^

tropic herald
#

But I think this is the last time you’ll ever know of the Titans as the Titans

digital cloud
#

boston just grabs them all and drops the team they have now

#

the ultimate coup

tropic herald
#

Assuming Boston has money

true hound
#

heh

clear crane
#

They do

next mesa
#

yeah

clear crane
#

they jsut dont want to spend it haha

jagged crater
#

what's even happening? They only played 4 games

next mesa
#

runaway has a cinderella story

jagged crater
#

been out of a loop

tropic herald
#

The issues are older than this season

next mesa
#

the players and coaches are unhappy with management

weak bolt
#

🦀 Titans are dead 🦀

hot heart
#

If Boston does pick them up

clear crane
raw ermine
#

I'd imagine they would make a team together somewhere else

hot heart
#

Ez wins

clear crane
#

bye DVaPeace

hot heart
#

Bye

digital cloud
#

wait, babybay is gone?

weak bolt
#

Boston won't pick them up, not a chance

clear crane
#

5th member of Sentinels?

raw ermine
#

ppl are saying sentinels

#

what does that mean tho

digital cloud
#

Valiant team

tropic herald
#

Valorant

digital cloud
#

Valorant*

#

yeah

tropic herald
#

The team Sinatraa went to

digital cloud
#

srry

tropic herald
#

Oh boy

#

Please no

raw ermine
#

no

#

Ik what sentinels are

tropic herald
#

I can only handle so much trauma

raw ermine
#

but the tweet

#

how could that mean sentinels

weak bolt
#

Orrrr

digital cloud
#

v

weak bolt
#

Babybay to Titans?

next mesa
#

no way

clear crane
#

frd dogman and gator replied with sad responses

true hound
#

no way what

weak bolt
#

I can see Titans picking up a whole new NA based team, if their Korean players are going/gone

true hound
#

babybay too

tropic herald
#

Me rn

raw ermine
#

babybay isn't going to vancouver

karmic grotto
#

shut up, he will go pepehands

weak bolt
#

I'd doubt it too, but I guess he could go Valorant, wasn't he a great CS:GO player who ended up banned for cheating?

karmic grotto
#

I wonder who the information broker is in the OWL

weak bolt
#

I really do forsee Titans picking up a whole NA roster though

clear crane
#

they prob will

weak bolt
#

To let go of your head coach, only off tank, and all your other korean players looking like they're leaving, it's not a good sign

clear crane
#

lets just see what they do

weak bolt
#

Pick up some of the fringe players from NA teams, and fill with contenders, win win

short sparrow
#

Its Atlanta, the Babybay thing is jebait

digital cloud
#

possibly

weak bolt
#

Yeah that wouldn't surprise me

digital cloud
#

but they need to run edison over him anyway

#

so

weak bolt
#

I wonder how quick Dynasty are going to try pick up any Titans players who leave haha

hot heart
#

Janu to dynasty

digital cloud
#

they didn't grab bumper

#

who knows

weak bolt
#

Haskal Profit duo, lets go

crisp willow
#

Dynasty's roster would be too chaotic

#

Maybe jehong again or slime

#

And maybe jjanu

#

But idk about others

weak bolt
#

Gesture, Jjanu, Profit, Haskal, Slime, Twilight

#

That'd be a scary roster

crisp willow
#

So basically remove everyone but Gesture and Profit