hasnt all their wins being maps 5's?
#esports-discussion
balmy wolf
outer zenith
Personally, I agree that the Dragons have been the most impressive.
tropic herald
Yes
outer zenith
Either way, this won't truly get interesting until the middle of the season, when the regions open up.
tropic herald
Everyone on Shanghai is nuts
balmy wolf
the mid season tournament?
balmy wolf
luffy on ana was pretty pog
tropic herald
Some of his plays are absolutely hilarious
balmy wolf
I heard rumors that haksal might go to the fuel
outer zenith
No, that's canceled last I heard. I'm talking about how the teams will be facing off with others outside of their divisions later into the season, as is typical of the format.
earnest leaf
that wouldn't make sense
earnest leaf
fuel has doha already
Last thing dallas needs is dps
they already have a nasty dps duo
tropic herald
That’s why I love LeeJaeGon
digital cloud
they already have zacharee
tropic herald
If anything Haksal to Boston
digital cloud
what more could they need
earnest leaf
I would say dallas should boot note but he kinda popped off vs shock
Granted all of dallas played pretty well vs shock
tropic herald
Note finally looked good on a hero that isn’t dva
earnest leaf
lol
digital cloud
decay though
tropic herald
Jjanu to Dallas
balmy wolf
dallas has one more spot
earnest leaf
I still think if shock has their shit together they are the most dominant team
especially with lucio
balmy wolf
so yea hasksal going to fuel is not a bad idea
earnest leaf
Because moth lucio is op
tropic herald
Shanghai could probably 3-2 Shock
earnest leaf
@balmy wolf He'd be pricy i'd assume
balmy wolf
who knows
tropic herald
Did you know Haksal means massacre?
outer zenith
Haksal to Boston.
tropic herald
I learnt that today
outer zenith
balmy wolf
why would dump your career in boston?
tropic herald
Money
earnest leaf
Also with covid still going on, trades are probably a bit wonky
balmy wolf
boston has no money
earnest leaf
Since they probably couldn't travel to play with the team atm
balmy wolf
look at their roster lol
tropic herald
If the Vancouver rumors are true
true hound
J e r r y
tropic herald
Management sucks for them
tropic herald
So apparently, Vancouver has no facilities in Korea so the players had to play both games at their own houses
That’s why Vancouver looked so bad on their games
outer zenith
Sounds cozy.
digital cloud
were they based in Korea?
tropic herald
Yes
earnest leaf
Poor fissure and jehong if it's all true
balmy wolf
i dont think the location matters
balmy wolf
they played ok in their matches
digital cloud
Jehong is still good, but he has no luck for the teams
balmy wolf
but they read the meta entirely wrong
outer zenith
I mean, I'm not exactly going to shed a tear for Fissure.
But that's quite unfortunate either way.
tropic herald
Imagine trying to play an OWL match and your teammates are in other cities
outer zenith
I don't want to see the Titans go down like this.
digital cloud
I only care about Jehong
digital cloud
they chocked some last year too
digital cloud
choked*
balmy wolf
bruh fucking trill played on 150 ping in AUS in contenders and slammed
tropic herald
That’s NA contenders lol
balmy wolf
same principle
they read the meta wrong and payed the price for it
regardless of how good they are individually
iirc titans are being managed by luminosity
tropic herald
Yep
tropic herald
And recently all the players have removed Titans branding from their Social media’s
balmy wolf
damn tough luck to the players
then again internally stuff has been happening ever since last year
shame
balmy wolf
yes hes signed as a streamer
balmy wolf
Why did Vancouver get rid of Tizi?
Imo he was the safer pick to leave on the roster over bumper
feral tinsel
i don't really watch the pro games that much but are hero bans in the pro league or is it just for regular comp
balmy wolf
Pro league too
feral tinsel
do you like the hero ban idea or nah bc personaly i don't like it that much
balmy wolf
I think it makes the game fresh every week
feral tinsel
i liked it at first but then they banned like all of the hit scans and pharah was the best pick
balmy wolf
I want to stay as positive as I can with it.
There is a new pro meta every patch usually
People get to try their own things and it’s not 100% mirror
Ranked wise.
I think hero bans should be in masters+
The only issue with that is the viewing experience
feral tinsel
I liked the idea but they should of made it like r6 were you can pick who is banned for that game
balmy wolf
A gold watches their favorite streamer who already feels like is playing a different game is now literally playing a different game
feral tinsel
i'm a plat lucio main so i usually like the challenge because i wanna get to masater and its gonna be hard there but lately the bans haven't been so good so its been harder to climb and since echo came out everyones been picking her and i lose the game bc its like there just getting the game again
supple prism
none of that is the reason you arent climbing
grizzled mango
So all the enemy echo is god tier and all your team echo sucks?
digital cloud
no, it just doesn't make sense to ensure two throwers
balmy wolf
I recommend to rewatch your losses/wins in queue.
Losses would be better.
Every time you die first reflect on what you could have done better.
Watching your amps is a big issue of most lucio players
It’s a 3 second window of value with a 12 second cooldown
Healing a ton isn’t really always your goal instead communicating speedboosts etc
You have a rein speed boost him in and our of team fights/speed boost in to get off his shatter etc
grizzled mango
In plat speed amp doesn't achieve anything because teammates dont know how to use it
balmy wolf
You can still communicate it
grizzled mango
You can communicate it but that doesn't mean teammates will follow through or listen to you
balmy wolf
If you aren’t making use of speed there’s no point in lucio besides the idea of passive heals
You could do the same with brig/Moira
I mostly lucio for control or 2cp attack because it helps correct positioning on your team
grizzled mango
Pretty much you can play more aggressive as lucio though
forest raven
Harbs team won pog
hidden vault
Harb is in a team now?
sterile grove
idle gorge
There’s one thing I don’t understand abt the band in regards of owl, they couldn’t play echo anyways right
echo quest
Ye it’s brain dead
outer zenith
And that's precisely the flaw I outlined with having Competitive ladder stats/pick-rate affect anything OWL related: You end up with a scenario like this, where Echo is banned from pro-play for a week, and she has yet to see any use to properly inform said ban with any relevant information whatsoever. It's silly.
echo quest
Stupid also cuz you if you’re good enough you can play anything in comp. shit like Ashe is always at risk of getting banned but she has no value in OWL so
limber pine
She was played in OWL last week.
Yes, after McCree and Widow were banned, but she was there.
feral wing
i love the fact that echo is banned
because that means shes banned from ranked too
and that makes me a happy man
unique latch
echo is a nightmare for tanks
celest spear
cloud latch
preds?
digital cloud
seoul dynasty, shanghai, probably excelsior, not really sure but I give the edge to philly, probably shock this time, not sure but hunters would be cool, honestly not sure but shanghai is a better choice due to how much they have played, excelsior, florida, not sure but Dallas has been looking better in my opinion
feral wing
seoul
shanghai
NYXL
philly
shock
i have no idea
shanghai
NYXL
florida
dallas
raw ermine
!!owlpool
young fractalBOT
The current Map Pool for OWL is:
Control: Ilios, Busan, Lijiang Tower, Oasis, Nepal
Assault: Hanamura, Paris, Volskaya Industries
Hybrid: Eichenwalde, Hollywood, Numbani
Escort: Dorado, Rialto, Route 66
The current Hero Pool for OWL is:
Tank: Wrecking Ball
Damage: McCree, Mei
Support: Brigitte
digital cloud
not updated yet, then
limber pine
!!owlpool
young fractalBOT
The current Map Pool for OWL is:
Control: Ilios, Busan, Lijiang Tower, Oasis, Nepal
Assault: Hanamura, Paris, Volskaya Industries
Hybrid: Eichenwalde, Hollywood, Numbani
Escort: Dorado, Rialto, Route 66
The current Hero Pool for OWL is:
Tank: Orisa
Damage: Echo, Tracer
Support: Moira
raw ermine
nice
tropic herald
Seoul v Shanghai 
balmy wolf
paris back
digital cloud
meaning that likelihood of chipsa approaches zero
guess Chipsa either owes xqc a million subs, or we are about to see a top team actually thworing
raw ermine
At least we get NYXL
digital cloud
true
balmy wolf
yeah , but they play against weaker teams
maybe charge has a change but how hunters are playing . theres no way theyll win that
balmy wolf
yeah
digital cloud
on paper, yeah, NYXL should win
but I won't be surprised if hunters do either
honestly, I am rooting for the hunters
Ameng is just too godly
worn falcon
rip vanc
digital cloud
they dead for certain?
balmy wolf
yeah but have u seen Pine guy is insane . Just hope he wont be benched like usual
whats up with vancoucer ?
digital cloud
uh
modern goblet
vancouver has rumors of splitting
digital cloud
that a joke about pine?
balmy wolf
ohh
modern goblet
twilight, slime and haksal are rumorred to leave
worn falcon
Jehong too
balmy wolf
didnt they all used to be a team called runaway >
modern goblet
yes
modern goblet
back to seoul Pog
balmy wolf
who is you guys prediction for owl finals ?
modern goblet
but bdosin might be played over him because of the synergy with the other spitfire players
balmy wolf
they did pretty good last year
digital cloud
looks like it might be Shanghai and philly though, or something like that
modern goblet
its pretty hard to determine who will make it becvause of hero pools
digital cloud
yeah
balmy wolf
never though shangai would go on a win streak
digital cloud
not the same dudes, so
modern goblet
philly will for sure get into at least top 6 because theyre farming the atlantic
worn falcon
i want SHD for finals
digital cloud
they might, the way they are playing
then again, the teams they have been against so far might not be great
who knows
balmy wolf
^^
balmy wolf
philly went hard
digital cloud
Atlanta might end up overtaking them eventually
balmy wolf
paris is the weirdest team theyll win to great teams and lose against Less greater teams
digital cloud
yeah
without Xzi though, I don't see them doing too well
if he and Sparkle both are there though, I can see them being a powerhouse
they need a better tank than benbest though
balmy wolf
had a guy recently a "smurf" who called himself benbest in gold lmao
digital cloud
well, he is likely good enough to crush golds, considering
but the isn't the best choice for a team like Paris, who is showing better results this year
he isn't*
balmy wolf
do any of you know someone from owl , that used to be a low rank ?
balmy wolf
example
digital cloud
when did he become high rank?
short sparrow
I think EQO started in Plat
echo quest
Eqo started in play and hit gm the same season
So
He was playing on 30fps and 150 ping too
digital cloud
he placed the first time in plat
pretty sure that is normal if you didn't start gm
modern goblet
can someone summarize the mouffin twitlong
tropic herald
ChipSa basically stated he was going to be in the next game
@modern goblet he just shifts blame off himself but poorly
modern goblet
thats a bit too oversimplified
karmic grotto
imagine we think he won't play against atl reign
echo quest
It will be a pity map lmao
echo quest
The greaser
supple prism
Twitlonger? This is twitforver. Damn its long
karmic grotto
No more ATL
T2 is just dead
blizz is shitty
all owl should leave franchise
I bet if all former owl players would play
They would play in teams like back in the days
Organizing their own tournaments
tropic herald
Jjanu still has it
karmic grotto
they're putting pressure on the leage
this whole owl is one big clown fiesta
half of team struggles
other half is relaxed
looking at you nyxl, fusion, atl, london, paris
cloud latch
👀
tropic herald
digital cloud
that is true
rare magnet
There's some kinda Korean tournament where Element Mystic and Gen.G are playing now https://www.twitch.tv/lvupgg
raw ermine
what happened now?
karmic grotto
no, i meant like pros
owl is tied to blizz
blizz is an org
they could make their own team
karmic grotto
owl with all stars players, the best of bests in one team
karmic grotto
yes
raw ermine
Well, their are only so many players that are "the best of the best" so you might get 2-4 teams at most
karmic grotto
open scrims having high quality
cloud latch
what's that?
karmic grotto
two korean contenders teams scrimming on LAN
formal bison
How does one apply to try out for owl and what are the requirements?
raw ermine
Well usually, you join a team in Open Division
then, if you do well enough, you get to a team in contenders
karmic grotto
@raw ermine That's the path to pro way, there is also another way
formal bison
Same team played with in OD’s?
raw ermine
and from there, you can be signed to a team in OWL, even if your team is bad, but the better the team, the higher chance
not neccesarily
and yes, you can be a doom OTP and go from no pro experience for 2-3 to OWL
karmic grotto
@formal bison First requirement is having an SR of at least 4.3k consistently. Second could also be a requirement: having experience in scrims. OWL teams don't always hold try outs, but when they do, they accept anyone of at least 4.3k, however players with team experience have a higher chance of passing the try outs. If you can outperform players who have thousands of hours scrim experience, they will see you as a player with lots of potential
this is for try outs only, and they're rare to see
raw ermine
4.3 sr is mandatory?
karmic grotto
Yes
raw ermine
in the rule mandated by bliz?
formal bison
Ahhh ok
karmic grotto
No, by the pro scene
Nai and Leggo talked about this alot before
4.3k is the requirement where you have basic knowledge of how the game works
formal bison
I’m always beast with moira but I’m so used to Xbox controls I have to adjust to pc 🤕 the struggle
karmic grotto
@formal bison Np, if you are good player on xbox, that gamesense can go over to pc, but pc ranked is not the same as console
There are players in top 500 who were also console top 500
formal bison
I’m been consumed by Ark lately so I got out of overwatch for a bit. Was thinking about diving back in and pursuing pro
For sure. Thanks guys! ❤️
raw ermine
I was thinking you we're watching the player Ark play for a while and forgot to play OW lmao
formal bison
No lol the game Ark just stole me away from OW for a bit but I miss the competition lol
digital cloud
he does look kinda nice
digital cloud
I was surprised he wanted to try Valorant
karmic grotto
RIP
digital cloud
thought he was tired of CS:GO like games
supple prism
Did he ever eat well?
tropic herald
Yeah
worn falcon
@karmic grotto https://www.instagram.com/p/B-UxugolFdx/
this is all his food
12 hours valorant and pizza
digital cloud
delicious
tropic herald
raw ermine
yikes
digital cloud
I never loved the Titans, but it is sad to see such a great team have to go through this
on the plus side, if Fissure makes it through this, I doubt he'll leave
karmic grotto
Auch
This is what happens with bad management
I was wondering why the Titans were losing matches
They couldn't be this bad
Turns out, it was internal issues
digital cloud
well, Shock lost too, and I don't think they had internal issues
unless I am mistaken
tropic herald
I mean Shock didn’t warmup for the gladiators game
If that counts as an internal issue
tropic herald
raw ermine
https://twitter.com/Andante_OW/status/1245013481268510728
What team is this pictured?
is it GC Busan Wave?
nvm it 99% is
limber pine
do we have any confirmation that it's actually bad management on the Titans part?
or just the players are mad at management?
digital cloud
no way
true hound
C H I P S A
digital cloud
even if philly is better, Atlanta would eat him alive
karmic grotto
I don't think so
You can play Doomfist, you won' get eaten if your team backs you up and you have a plan
Which is why yiska said 2 weeks ago that ChipSa was smashing in scrims
digital cloud
he would have to play way different
karmic grotto
logically
digital cloud
wait, in scrims
karmic grotto
Not much is known, just that he hinted a few days ago about him donating a million subs to xQc if he wouldn't play that day
digital cloud
yeah, sorry, I have a hard time taking a one trick seriously
karmic grotto
true hound
shhh
karmic grotto
@digital cloud that's what they said about ANS from Shock
digital cloud
even if he is played, it would be throwing
true hound
chipsa is a f l e x
digital cloud
ANS isn't a one trick
unique latch
i still feel like the chipsa pick was unfair to contenders players
karmic grotto
He was chosen for his Widow
digital cloud
and is OWL level
unique latch
but he is a good player
karmic grotto
Same as ChipSa was chosed for his Doom
digital cloud
nothing else he plays is even close
true hound
chipsa genji
karmic grotto
Doesn't matter, it's about the meta
true hound
😩😩
karmic grotto
That's why they signed him
karmic grotto
Who, ANS?
digital cloud
Chipsa
karmic grotto
Why comparing a hitscan player vs a Doom main projectile?
Compare edison to ANS and you have a better match up
digital cloud
edison is also a doom player
iirc
he has at least played it well
maybe erster would be for them?
I don't know
but Chipsa is definitely worse than whoever plays doom for Atlanta
I suppose they could win a map with him, if they are absolutely cracked
but I don't see it
true hound
I’m just sad we might not get to see the crowd go batshit crazy if Chipsa is ever played
wind phoenix
true hound
pog
digital cloud
I agree it would be cool to see him, but playing him would be a throw
digital cloud
that is all I am saying
karmic grotto
Why would ChipSa's doomfist be worst? If Fusion already has insane players and ChipSa is their best Doomfist + leadership potential, what makes you think they would do worse than ATL?
true hound
@tropic herald lmao yeah
digital cloud
worse mechanically
true hound
@tropic herald haksal would wipe the floor with him
tropic herald
Saying ChipSa doom is a throw is honestly 
true hound
in terms of genji
karmic grotto
Mechanically?
digital cloud
edison and erster are better
karmic grotto
And how?
digital cloud
not saying he is worse in the league
tropic herald
If you’ve seen chipsa try hard in scrims you wouldn’t say he’s bad
digital cloud
I never said he is bad
karmic grotto
This guy has a bias against ChipSa without knowing his Doomfist
tropic herald
His doom is insane
karmic grotto
Yup
tropic herald
You’ve seen his stream doom
karmic grotto
^
digital cloud
yes
karmic grotto
Any player is better in team coordination than ranked
tropic herald
Mans doesn’t know difference between on stream and off
karmic grotto
As example, Harbleu's Sigma with OWL support = cracked af
karmic grotto
xQc could easily be top 5 main tank in league
digital cloud
over gamsu, Oge, marve1, mano, etc.?
karmic grotto
Yes he could
But his stream life stopped it
Didn't you know he was playing for Dallas Fuel?
tropic herald
If he was pro for the last year or so still
Yes
But he’s not played professionally for a while
digital cloud
I never said , again, that Chipsa is bad, but that he is worse than Atlanta. I don't know how you could view a one trick steamer over some of the best Dps in OWL
tropic herald
Bro
The hero he one tricks, if you even want to say it’s a one trick is actually insane
karmic grotto
One tricks are better than players who play multiple heroes, that's a fact
digital cloud
yeah, not that many, but there are
tropic herald
There’s some people you could consider one tricks in owl
karmic grotto
In owl season 1, there was a dva player, below gm, that was in the league just because he one tricked dva
karmic grotto
Let me try to find it, someone mentioned it a few months ago, it was someone you know
karmic grotto
I can't recall its name, I only know the level at beginning wasn't high, Dive was meta, and if you were a good Dva, you basically got in the league
echo quest
Maybe coolmatt Cuz he barely ever played ranked? His account of decayed. But it’s literally impossible for any player to be below 4400
karmic grotto
@echo quest could be yes
sight... harbleu not dva, otherwise he would be in league already
digital cloud
I guess he was basically only a dva player
he could play other stuff, but I see the point
digital cloud
to be fair, the outlaws don't exactly have much luck with having good players
echo quest
Iike season 2,3,4
digital cloud
and still better than me
true hound
J lul ke
digital cloud
😭
echo quest
Has to be coolmatt. He said multiple times on stream he doesn’t give a fuck about ranked
Gesture is the same
Neither play ranked
karmic grotto
well
digital cloud
jake actually carried the echo tournament, not so lul now
echo quest
Ye
true hound
Kaiseeer
digital cloud
Kaiser is actually good though
karmic grotto
man came 2 months after taking break
echo quest
Sinatraa doesn’t play ranked much anymore either
digital cloud
not coolmatt
true hound
Kaiser is in T2 now isn’t he
karmic grotto
ranked is bad environment to play the game
digital cloud
I agree, I prefer scrims
echo quest
Sinatraa a valiant pro
karmic grotto
ranked is basically used to learn mechanical skill of heroes
digital cloud
but my team doesn't get to meet much
true hound
he probably will
karmic grotto
are there rank out for valorant
true hound
Nope
digital cloud
isn't it still beta?
true hound
Yeah
true hound
for shit they did with League
echo quest
@karmic grotto no no lmao
digital cloud
they are actually good developers
true hound
I don’t play League so I wouldn’t no
echo quest
He’s just cracked at the game
true hound
but it seems like everyone hates playing the game but keeps playing League
echo quest
Easily holds his own with cs pros
echo quest
Ranked in NA is trash
true hound
I’ve had league sitting downloaded for a while
echo quest
No wonder NA is hot garbage at the game compared
echo quest
To other regions
true hound
But everyone says it’s toxic as hell so I haven’t really touched it
tropic herald
Here’s and example
digital cloud
eh
digital cloud
tf2 and cs:go are comparable toxicity wise
digital cloud
tf2 is probably worse now, with all the bots
it would be funny if it wasn't to sad
true hound
rocket league makes me angry
digital cloud
so*
true hound
sometimes
Especially in doubles
I’ve had a 5-1 lead in some games, I fuck up once and then my other teammate throws saying “I don’t care about rank”
echo quest
Ngl. Riot fixed the meta to make it interesting to watch. It’s a lot faster pace now. Blizzard took too long. Mercy was cancer in s1 and then goats came
Took a whole year
digital cloud
yeah
I actually like watching goats most of the time
but a whole year of it in ranked
true hound
I missed the whole goats fiasco
echo quest
Goats is fine with good teams
digital cloud
I was gold, so
echo quest
Bad teams is absolute aids
karmic grotto
wash vs outlaws
echo quest
Washington vs London was just horrible to watch
karmic grotto
clown fiesta
digital cloud
I think they are talking about last year
true hound
Washington looks really sad
echo quest
That was why I liked S1. DPS players on their day could get a map off any team
Which I really liked
true hound
Early OW didn’t feel like CC fest
digital cloud
teams are only getting better
echo quest
Which you saw in stage 4 s2 when dps came back. Corey had the game of his life against the titans
digital cloud
yeah, it was just 24/7 genji
karmic grotto
jjonak on zen
true hound
Genji was such a strong pick though
karmic grotto
good ow
echo quest
Sbb,Carpe and striker tracer
Profit and Fleta going whatever
Birdring peaks
Good times
karmic grotto
was there a streamers stack?
digital cloud
made*
echo quest
Unless your a streamer like Calvin and Dafran where you’re viewers love you so much they’ll watch you staring at a blank screen
karmic grotto
ow was so fun, streamers were playing the game for hours
true hound
dafran watches chika dance for 10 hours
karmic grotto
i wish i was there at beginning
echo quest
10k viewers
karmic grotto
digital cloud
harbleu had pretty high viewing for the tournament
he needs more
or to get into OWL
but he needs a Dva
true hound
the echo tournament was dope
Wish they did more
honestly it was more enjoyable than OWL
willow orbit
09-25-07ツ
#6402
digital cloud
OWL players and ex OWL players
echo quest
Xqc got dumpstered
digital cloud
yeah
echo quest
The rust on that man
digital cloud
I saw a comment saying that his team would destroy harb's
echo quest
He was playing against FCTFCN so
digital cloud
then harb's destoyed the team that beat xqc
yeah
cloneman and fctfctn are pretty comparable, I think
echo quest
People really forgetting Xqc hasn’t try harded in this game since a year ago
Before he went variety
Whenever he plays now he is basically on auto pilot
Unless it’s a tournament
digital cloud
I would say fctfctn was better than him then, though
true hound
Wasn’t the team like half contenders
echo quest
Super
true hound
So I mean they’d have way more synergy
true hound
no the team they lost to
echo quest
FCT isn’t on a team right?
echo quest
Super was on offtank
Rascal was carrying the shit out of them
They genuinely had fun so I think that matters more than winning imo
echo quest
First time I’ve seen Xqc enjoy OW in a long time
digital cloud
I did kind of expect them to try to win
true hound
I doubt they had much synergy
digital cloud
probably not
true hound
harbs team rolled though
digital cloud
yeah, I was surpsrised
true hound
Kabajis team lost in Semis right?
digital cloud
surprised*
yeah, I think so
to scion
Harb's team just dominated everyone
I kind of thought it would be more difficult for them
echo quest
Wasn’t kragie on Kabaji’s team?
true hound
Ye
true hound
He didn’t play 2nd day though
true hound
sad
echo quest
POGGERS
true hound
POGCHAMP
digital cloud
with the power of twitch prime
true hound
I’ve really been able to pop off
echo quest
Dude I fucking love Sova and fucking shit, I cant wait for ranked to come out in Valorant - Dafran
Ye...
He isn’t coming back
Is he
karmic grotto
Unless OW show its potential it has
I see no reason for former streamers to comeback to overwatch
karmic grotto
Dafran and Sova Hanzo main
echo quest
He’s deadass discussing strats with Sinatraa rn while watching a tournament
digital cloud
he was a pro in cs:go
karmic grotto
He has csgo background
digital cloud
has nutty aim
true hound
he was never CSGO pro
karmic grotto
Sinatraa x Dafran strikes again
karmic grotto
Selfless to Valorant
Spawn camping the kiddos
People would say he is cheating, little do they know he's a human aimbot
echo quest
I don’t care what Dafran plays. I would watch him playing anything
karmic grotto
If he plays anything and enjoys it, he shows insane potential
echo quest
His chika stream was goated. Hitting the vape and discussing life with viewers
karmic grotto
No matter his attitude or personal circumstances
echo quest
Hope he seriously likes valorant for a like time
karmic grotto
I kinda hope he goes Pro
echo quest
He won’t
karmic grotto
Why not?
echo quest
Went pro with reign and retired within a stage
true hound
he left OWL after one stage
yeah
I don’t think going pro is his thing
He tried it twice
echo quest
He’s even said he had regrets going pro
karmic grotto
Yes but he had issues
echo quest
But wanted one last shot
karmic grotto
Like now
karmic grotto
I wasn't done with my sentence lol
karmic grotto
Like now - if he really loves Valorant and he himself says that he wants to go pro, I'll support him. And even he doesn't, still great, he will be playing against pros on Valorant rank
echo quest
I think so
echo quest
Really wish he was in NA
karmic grotto
:/
feral wing
i wont support any pros that go over to valorant, not even shadowburn
karmic grotto
Players can't even peak a second and they're dead
echo quest
He’s just waiting for ranked rn
feral wing
i think the game is ass
feral wing
hes taking a break and playing valorant in the meantime i believe
i dont know if he will return to overwatch
true hound
rip
echo quest
Dafran could watch paint dry and I would still support it. Dude is just a dope dude
It feels like he has the same drive for Valorant that he did for Ow when it came out so i’m happy
karmic grotto
cloud bluff
Me have question
to od
if anyone followed it
who was the other tank in the team "avoided" except ball
dry karma
Who are the best players in contenders rn? I'm trying to rank players and I dont even know where to start
digital cloud
probably element mystic?
I hear third impact is good?
I dunno
I don't think many teams have played this year
supple prism
contenders is collapsing i hear
sullen berry
Third impact is very good, I hear
Losing Carter their main dps to valorant doesn't surprise after making fun of players who jumped ship early
Team Overwatch had better step up their game to make an impression. This is going to be a one and done event
balmy wolf
Ban Kephrii from all esports lmao
outer zenith
What's wrong with Gale though?
delicate nebula
hello
heady vine
hi
feral wing
that team is kinda shit
hidden vault
Yeah what's wrong with gale?
tame shadow
Kephrii is bastion main
true hound
oh
Gale said something about women not being able to compete at pro level In esports
and women will never be as good as the guys
balmy wolf
hes kinda right tho
gray fulcrum
true hound
idk I don’t really think he’s a shitty guy
balmy wolf
there are way to less women trying to improve
digital cloud
I mean, some women can make it
I think guys are more wired for e-sports, though, if I remember correctly
better reaction times mentally and physically, due to brain chemistry and fast-twitch muscle
but that is only generally
digital cloud
I think if guys were less hostile to the women in e-sports, there would probably be more
but guys would still be on top, most of the time
from what I understand
also, not to be awful, but Geguri was picked up because she was one of the more visible good female players
I would argue she was better than, say, coolmatt
but recently, there was a South American woman who won their contenders championship
so that was cool
true hound
I just remember when I first got the game there was that video of her playing
and people went insane cause she had a ridiculous zarya winrate (80+)
true hound
Yes
She made 2 people quit the pro scene
Everyone accused her of cheating
there’s an old ESPN article I think
digital cloud
I am sure she did not cheat
true hound
digital cloud
I just mean to say that she was not, generally, better than the other OWL options
true hound
yeah
Since I got back into the game, I wondered where she went
Turns out she was the only girl in OWL my friends told me about
digital cloud
maybe there will be more one day
echo quest
If OWL is around
I think there was another Chinese female pro on LF. They dominated CN contenders no idea why people on that team didn’t get picked up
tropic herald
LG Huya?
tropic herald
Kong is back
echo quest
No lucky future
primal minnow
Ooo quartermain is now a coach
lament gust
👀
raw ermine
hmm
worn falcon
Ooof
digital cloud
well, I think it makes sense at least one org wasn't ready for something like this
worn falcon
past spoke
idk this is something titans have struggled with since i can remember
the player tensions is less known but the org/staff have been very dodgy about communication with fans
raw ermine
Sounds like it started late last season, around the finals. Possibly that's why they struggled
sullen berry
well that post looks like the strongest correlation to what is happening
even @gaunt acorn is only caught up to this much up until now
still keeping this topic as open to interpretation
but compare it to the chinese teams who moved ahead of time and did the same work earlier
vs the unfortunate events that the players have been very stressed during their first week of matches going online Korea
sullen berry
so instead of walk in interviews with production, we get a screenshare of the cloud tech they're using on the OW League broadcast
Grass Valley stonks on this software going up for production houses
📈
sullen berry
@timber widget this is the wrong channel for these posts, you've only given less than 24 hours notice before registration closes
slate ore
call me a noob but i just got back into overwatch and only now realized OWL is on YT gaming 
bright walrus
Quartermain as a coach??? Wow
I like and hate YT gaming, I like being able to rewind and how it's better on my internet but I miss all the emotes and All Access Pass content
echo quest
Kinda ironic how EscA best heroes were meta at some point in OWL
karmic grotto
Wasn't he a good player for Dynasty?
Yet he was in military service
I've never seen him play
echo quest
In game leader
karmic grotto
Supposed he had a good Mei
echo quest
Mcree and sombra too
echo quest
I’m not sure who it was in lunatic hai but they said he basically stopped them from ever being tilted
Which is why they won
karmic grotto
Also, check this out
got lucky in this custom match
randomly lullsish and kevster
karmic grotto
Anyways, players are changing
owl is changing as well
I don't know, I feel weird
Meta's changing so fast, new players coming, older players who can't keep up go out
raw ermine
Lullsish best pharah confirmed
karmic grotto
ez
karmic grotto
huh?
What are you talking about
Games are on saturday
unless you're talking about contenders
sullen berry
nope
this is my schedule
okay so it is 3 games in 24 hours
sunday games always broadcasted live on a Monday
going to miss a boston upset kek
karmic grotto
huH?
did they change the time?
you mean to say first game is tomorrow?
You sure you have the right schedule?
On the 25th, at my time it starts 10 am
Yours 8 pm
8 hour difference
Saturday
There aren't games on Friday
Today is Thursday man
sullen berry
what's two days for you
my time time zone hits different
it comes up as three sets of days, you have to read between the days
look at the time intervals split in red
digital cloud
I know right
and I thought OWL was unwatched
I try to watch teams I liked
but they are dropping like flies
can't watch all of them
rare magnet
when jayne had hair that was a toupee right 100 %
upper niche
OWL viewership has gone off a cliff, yes.
raw ermine
Ah military service
umbral pumice
Man I miss playing overwatch 
hot heart
F for water
true hound
wait he was
karmic grotto
There is no reason for him to come back
echo quest
Sinatraa was only playing OW because there is a bug in valorant where you can’t find matches
He waited 35 minutes I think
In Q
limber pine
digital cloud
oof
karmic grotto
kids, this is why you have at least 2 players of each role