Nevertheless it’s terrible that thus many people have dropped the game so fast
#esports-discussion
tropic herald
weak bolt
I don't think Blizzard/Activision will proceed with OW2 Pro scene really. I think they'll make it to milk the casual market, and use CoD for their pro scenes
weak bolt
I don't think we'll see S4 Owl personally, Or it'll be heavily adapted around OW2
tropic herald
Fuck
raw ermine
karmic grotto
XD
echo quest
Gonna miss the OG memer
balmy wolf
Dallas beat Valiant haaahhaa whaaaat
digital cloud
I know Blizzard played a huge role, but I still don't get why OWL is so small compared to things like CS:GO or LOL
Sure, Riot is better than Blizzard, but Overwatch was and is still pretty big
raw ermine
https://twitter.com/sharykOW/status/1247244135364526083
with gods, goes sharyk
Twitter
karmic grotto
🦀 GOATS IS DEAD 🦀
raw ermine
Retirements, disbandments, 1 chinese guy getting a team, and MoufKazper
worn falcon
who is sharyk?
raw ermine
he was the main tank for toronto
after they made the switch to an NA roster
in 2018
digital cloud
numlocked too?
raw ermine
He played with gods
worn falcon
Huh, didnt remember him lol
karmic grotto
Fun thing, majoirty of people who retired stopped playing OW for a few months
As of right now
I don't see any active player quitting
raw ermine
barring hyp
karmic grotto
Ye
He was already home
At this point
Dafran will create a tweet tomorrow
He shall retire as well
Will*
digital cloud
he seems to still like Overwatch, though
worn falcon
No, I don't leave for Valorant but I can't ignore it. I want to pursue my career on another game so I will try it. I don't know if I will start new project on Valorant or wanted to be pro but If I can test it, I will probably do some streams.
tropic herald
10 retirements today
worn falcon
most of them were OW t2 and already retired players
tropic herald
Still a lot
tropic herald
Kyb was good
tropic herald
His brig made Fusions look good on rein
raw ermine
play brig a bit on the charge, got replaced by nero and eileen
traded to fusion in a weird 3 way trade
then dropped
clear crane
All these ppl retiring. Numlocked's comments as well. This might turn bad
limber pine
You have a lot of players in a lot of different games talking about Valorant
We'll see
sullen berry
Keen to watch valorant from that angle like I did with silkthread and me do in apex
Their stories will be to waste if they can't propel themselves on the fresh start they wanted on a platform competing with cs:go and LOL players lining up for some diversity in their games
clear crane
Considering Valorant seems to be more aligned to CS:GO, might be hard for some of these players to translate over without the background
limber pine
I think that a lot of players are good at various games
fps's specifically
the question is "can they be a pro in valorant if they can't be a pro in Overwatch?"
Or will it depend on if Valorant is more fun than Overwatch
tropic herald
Judging by the gameplay so far
I’m going to guess that tank players, especially main tanks won’t like Valorant
limber pine
Tank players have various backgrounds
Obviously it’s not a 1:1 ratio, but I think the difficulty of transition is overstated sometimes
I for one, couldn’t be less interested in valorant
limber pine
Exactly
worn falcon
TF2, CSGO, Quake, COD, Minecraft
and because at that moment was like "oh shit Blizzard the MMORPG giant gonna release a FPS?"
And now is "Oh shit, Riot the MOBA king releasing a FPS?"
Previous players grinded those games for years too and some got burned out
modest ibex
lot of pros have retired. its kinda sad
csgo has also gone up in twitch viewership
#3 right now
tropic herald
Bro Mouffin has a twitlonger
worn falcon
is a entire novel, yes
tropic herald
Yes
I read it all
tl;dr doesn’t really address the real issues and tries to push responsibilities to his culture???
worn falcon
Twitter
tropic herald
Almost scared me
jagged crater
what a jokester!
still no token drops meaning viewership is just going to decline
this is legit lookin pretty bad. OWL S3 banked on local events and covid just threw a wrench in it so bad. Valorant hype machine also came at a terrible time for OW, just taking T2 players left and right
So the casual scene for OW will still go strong but it's looking grim for the competitive scene.
digital cloud
this sucks
despite Blizzard being horrible, I really want OWL, or at least Overwatch, to succeed professionally
hidden vault
supple prism
Not entirely sure what they will get out of Valorant but ok
echo quest
Valorsnt is hyped as hell and might be the next big thing so why not jump ship
Sinatraa gonna stream it for 12 hours straight tomorrow
Poggers
Really sad Leaf didn’t get a shot at Toronto
Dude was smurfing in contenders
jagged crater
It's gonna be a learning curve for OW players without CS experience
but depending on how mechanically important Valorant is , I wouldn't know. Maybe even main tanks or main supports can trasnfer over? In CS there are a few players that aren't the most mechanically gifted but still on decent pro level teams, particularly IGLs
echo quest
Unpopular opinion but I would fully pin this on Blizzard Esports over the Blizzard dev team. I think Jeff and co have had the impossible task to reshape a videogame that wasn't originally designed for a competitive mindset into the King of Esports, and have done as much as they possibly can, but the decisions taken at an executive level have damaged the path to pro way way more than whatever balancing issues or queue problems the devs have had to tackle.
Blizzard butchering an esport name a better duo
karmic grotto
Jeff didn't want a forced competitive league
He and his team were against it
OGN x APEX was the best natural competitive environment, perfectly suited for the casual viewer
The observers, OWL staff, OW devs all have sene the frontpage
They're on suicide watch
fiery berry
giveaway for 3 OWL skin codes! https://twitter.com/umassoverwatch/status/1247327953932992513?s=21
tawny sigil
How did super know we were seeing the chat?
sullen berry
I was asking the same thing too
inside info is not that hard when you're an important figure in the league
but you really don't even need that
some basic english to korean translation would have sufficed
echo quest
What happened
hidden vault
Exactly what
hardy estuary
karmic grotto
delete that
tawny sigil
Rascal and who was the other guy... they got fined 1000$ for saying big dick while the chat was visible on stream.
balmy wolf
lastro
tawny sigil
yeah lastro
and super was like STOP they can see chat
how did he know
watching the stream is allowed?
or was that told to them that chat was going to be visible
tropic herald
The chat was visible in earlier games
tropic herald
It was known too
tawny sigil
i thought it was a mistake that it was on
swift moth
"striker is ugly"
celest spear
According to McGravy, everyone knew that match chat was on
hot heart
Lastro the fucking chad
karmic grotto
ok weeb
true hound
ok
weak wharf
hi guys
short sparrow
That was wayyy too random
raw ermine
It's Aid's birthday today
raw ermine
so
we have in OWL
Jae-gon "LeeJaeGon" Lee
Min-soo "SeoMinSoo" Seo
Jehong "ryujehong" Ryu
Nam-jin "Gangnamjin" Gang
Hyo-bin "ChoiHyoBin" Choi
any ones I am missing?
oh right
Young-Jin "YOUNGJIN" Jin
tropic herald
Jake “Jake” Lyon
raw ermine
true
raw ermine
rip the roadhog god
tropic herald
So today I learned
There’s spots in OWL you are not allowed using
If the spot gives you one if the bounces for stalling there you can’t use it
raw ermine
one of those few rules where you actually get a "penalty"
sullen berry
with those hanamura rooftops as winston
tropic herald
From ChipSa
karmic grotto
yeah
tropic herald
It explains so much when we saw doom that no one did rollouts
karmic grotto
which is why you don;t see owl doomfist using those roll outs
But that doesn't mean you can't do roll outs
as long as you don't stay in a place they can't reach you
tropic herald
I don’t understand why that’s something they have a penalty for
tropic herald
What are they going to do?
karmic grotto
it's literally a waste of time
karmic grotto
Doomfist on spot nobody can reach means your time is 5v6
your team*
Especially IF they have a doomfist themselves
It's a high risk
tropic herald
Yes
tropic herald
But there’s no reason for it to be penalized
karmic grotto
if they don't fuck up, it's good entertainment
karmic grotto
I bet if OGN and APEX was there
that would not be a fine
everybody would like it
tropic herald
Doesnt CS have sprays like that
That they use during pro play
That are equally “vulgar” if not more
supple prism
They could just easily block those spots that certain heroes could reach if its such an issue
fathom summit
@silver roost do not spam and do not go off topic here please
fluid kettle
Jesus, the amount of videos yelling at bliz for fining lastro and rascal. If you rewatch the clip, there is a coca cola ad right as they say it. It probably was Coca Cola that asked for them to be punished. Also, Overwatch is still partnered with Lego, a kids company. You dont want to lose sponsorships and partners.
I mean, its dumb they got fined that much, but that might have been the minimum fine.
Blizzard prob didnt want their esport demonitized
balmy wolf
yeah
as funny as lastro saying sex big dick was
they were going to fine them
honestly lastro and rascal were idiots for doing it anyways
whats the point
balmy wolf
good point
cloud latch
nah they still have chezits crunch time
karmic grotto
Imagine
Going franchise
To only lose those sponsors that want to be there for the casual competitive game
Gamer
balmy wolf
it's just unfortunate
slim haven
does kinda make you worried about the future of owl though
sullen berry
You only have to back to the comments in this channel last year to know prospects for the league to make it past their 4th year is not very optimistic, think it was nicetoeat that mentioned it
karmic grotto
As long as they don't change their mindset
sullen berry
Whomst
karmic grotto
if S4 can't go on
orgs need to pay the remaining contracts
blizzard will have to hire OGN
Apex comes back
watch old sponsors get back
Without environment of franchises, matches will be more fun
Since scrimming will be different mentality
Start from scratch
doesn't csgo have a league running when their T2 get promoted to T1?
sullen berry
if riot's esports division are great at setting up the right infrastructure..
for the players who are thirsty for their new IP
and their own P&Ls at the same time
you bet they're going to make a healthier ecosystem for many, many years
sullen berry
optimistically, they can put as little effort on setting up whatever valorant league becomes and take Overwatch's entire model to really BM
karmic grotto
Why doesn't Activision take their ideas and execute it
They literally have billions of cash I assume
sullen berry
Why doesn't Activision take their ideas and execute it
I don't know if it's true, but incidentally as a business they did well as an esports with Starcraft
but their esports investment was lowballed to those in Korea making a living in what feels like the dark ages
much like how warcraft 3 mods spawned several successful IPs, Blizzard lost out from the money being made my their own games
karmic grotto
What do you mean with IP?
sullen berry
wrong wording
I mean the games you have now like DOTA that were literally invented inside a warcraft III mod
karmic grotto
lmao
Then, what happened with the mod?
Did someone took out the codes
and created a standalone game?
sullen berry
idk but i heard a small esports bracket called the international took off
made a few dollars out of it
🙃
karmic grotto
a few
LOL
ez
Also
This is interesting
Seems that Blizzard has less revenue than the others
and less monthly users
sullen berry
so it's just going to shift money away and pocket the COD League
sullen berry
but not mad
you have to remember they're not even remotely new to esports
activision blizzard had every incentive to build around packages for orgs to buyout more than one team roster
to the effect of making bigger deals than they would with one game? Probably.
I'm still going to love New York ANDBOX 
and that crossover advertising is great to keep fans under one umbrella to better market local gamers
sullen berry
just start watching more contenders
then they'll know something's wrong
if the main product has less viewership than the t2 scene
and if Contenders Korea eclipsed the viewership of pacific, SA, China (international, not locally) and Australia threefold
that would be some good shit 👌
karmic grotto
they barely put good ads for contenders
example, when I went to blizz
I showed contenders with LIVE
sullen berry
nonexistent, from experience
sullen berry
oh and don't get me started on how they botched all of the livestream names
I don't know what monkey was responsible
but every chinese contenders VOD upload on YT but esp on Twitch
they're all named after the wrong teams or just one match
for an entire 4-8 hours
karmic grotto
multi billion dollar company
sullen berry
so if i wanted to rewatch GZA.T1W
karmic grotto
If Riot was the one to create Overwatch
Overwatch would have been esports game of the year for years
They wouldn't have these shitty community services
sullen berry
I have to scrub a video for a team called Team For Victory
karmic grotto
wtf
sullen berry
for a GZ Academy game
karmic grotto
That does not make sense
sullen berry
my loins
karmic grotto
Why isn't it fixed?
sullen berry
they have never been more rattled by the lack of oversight
sullen berry
and literal oversight, the podcast with monte and britsh neckbeard
karmic grotto
It's like
Blizzard empoyees are being paid by riot to half ass these things
So that they can go to work to Valorant
For sure Valorant will need to have obs, staff, game devs
They have game devs, for get that
I don't understand
Why does Overwatch have such bad management
With Jeff literally working for the game he loves, not to die
If it weren't for Jeff
People wouldn't be even playing this game
sullen berry
For some context, you would think they hired a quality broadcasting crew prepared for the long term with these scenarios.
I don't think the praise for them last year which has now all but gone these days were familiar
or intending to be working for an online broadcast to this extent.
most of this is like 1,000 variables that could go wrong
to a billion
when you have no way to control individual staff's hardware and software the same way at home
karmic grotto
You have a point on that, however, what happened in homestand should not happen at all
The fact that they do desk from a distance, on the other side of the world or country
Doesn't scream professionality to me
Do you remember the homestand last year?
when the desk was outside
Near the building
sullen berry
okay but i think you get that they had studio grade equipment under the same roof/venue
karmic grotto
I thought that was cool
sullen berry
oh for sure, it was fine they got to change it up
and they had proper time to plan that homestand considering they didn't have to leave the state as a plus
This is probably similar to OBSWinston's setup when they play an online match
https://twitter.com/MoiraiOW/status/1241861853233344512
Wait I think I might have found them all
https://twitter.com/Unstopmonkey/status/1241863578065358848
okay that's the original post
so factor all these parts paid by blizz in some form
or more realistically
paid out of the pockets using that person's own hardware (nothing crazy about that)
lots of things can go wrong
karmic grotto
Those pcs
are from blizzard
there was some label on them to take only one
but those monitors
Are not from themselves
I think
They have varmillo custom keyboards, also from blizz
Oh well
At least they try to give us matches in these times
nothing they can do when it doesn't go right
sullen berry
minumum 3 computers, hence the three monitor setup
lowkey OBSTorbjorn
https://twitter.com/TrmntdByGnomes/status/1241861344040595457
karmic grotto
auch
sullen berry
sleeper hit for O2 Blast
both rosters aren't exactly stacked with ex-OW League talent, but it works
Sub 1k views is decent to say for a semi-final match
3rd Generation Runaway vs 3rd Gen O2 Blast
echo quest
Pro overwatch is in such a state that fucking Korean contenders is getting sub 1k viewers
karmic grotto
when it was on twitch
it would get maybe 8000
sometimes even 10k with good matches
but no
activisoin only cares about fucking money
sullen berry
Same kalios
raw ermine
It's harbleu's birthday today
tropic herald
Pog
echo quest
Not a single owl pro that has streamed disliked valorant 
supple prism
cant possibly know that
supple prism
last i heard was super sucked at it
tropic herald
Main tank aim
balmy wolf
i have 26 hours watchtime since yesterday, still no key 😦
sullen berry
Twitter
I only know 5 people tht have tried valorant but none are just forcing the feeling they need to go pro at this
Then again KYB doesnt say much at all
balmy wolf
i wanna go pro lol
sullen berry
Thinning of the pro scene
swift moth
I think regular ow is doing fine but profesional scene iant lookin too good
swift moth
or at least the people who I game with aren't too interested in valorant
balmy wolf
thats normal
sour crag
raw ermine
Twitter
karmic grotto
But he wasn't signed at all
karmic grotto
He also gonna play valorant?
raw ermine
Probably
His next post is, if I am correct, a pick of him getting a key with the caption, vamooooooooo
feral wing
sullen berry
With a heavy heart I have to announce that I will be retiring from Valorant. It's been a long journey and I've made so many friends along the way, I'll really miss you all. Unfortunately my career just couldn't become what I wanted it to be and I didn't enjoy the game. Guess I'm returning to Overwatch. Call it stockholm syndrome.
that's depressing, they're leaving so soon
sullen berry
Carter had one that made me laugh to see him actually go
Me monkey me go play valorant
mad lad deleted it probably for attracting too much salt it seems
raw ermine
Yeah he declared overwatch could have been the best game ever, but it wasn't so its the worst game ever
silent bobcat
subtle reef
chipsa won't play lmao
cloud latch
dont ruin my dreams
digital cloud
he is only there for publicity
the only time he will ever play is if they are sandbagging
muted wave
Guy Iam switch player so if you want to play with me send friend code and my level is 195
prime herald
Hallo hi
balmy wolf
karmic grotto
stonks
raw ermine
damn
hidden vault
Lmao Hanbin is a better doom than chipsa
hidden vault
Delete it since you said it was cursed
raw ermine
there
sullen berry
Too late now - worse I'm uploading without a way to add spoiler tags on mobile
Right for the complexity
If he's really going to shave like this for a moustache
tropic herald
You can def but spoilers on it
sullen berry
On android? Nope didn't see it
tropic herald
|| use these bad bois
sullen berry
||https://twitter.com/Fusion/status/1247965866895069191?s=19|| it won't work unless it's embedded
This is community engagement
Wild you wouldn't consider this serious discussion
tropic herald
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sullen berry
!!movingon
young fractalBOT
Moving swiftly onwards
sullen berry
No you're helping
Looking at this now
I could do two matches per row
Haven't decided what to rate this week's matches
Hunters vs titans would be a thriller
hidden vault
For a moment I thought you were the bot
hidden vault
It's too bright?
tropic herald
Philly v Paris
sullen berry
I'd like another colour, but no one asked
tropic herald
Philly v Atlanta
hidden vault
Takes away the attention from the logo of the teams
raw ermine
I just wanna see titans
tropic herald
Houston v Boston
sullen berry
This isn't a Seoul or valiant week from The pacific div
No spitfire, nyxl
Still under maintenance i presume to be able to play
Guangzhou is camped inside a conference room of a hotel last I checked
With rented out gaming rigs
Least the majority of them should be using their preferred mouse and keys.
Not sure how their headsets are done but guessing that's their own too
balmy wolf
Looking for mature stream mods. I get a decent amount of viewers!
sullen berry
Okay but why in esports?
tropic herald
I would like to bring attention to the fact that the team with the least amount of franchise wins is not Shanghai anymore
The new holder of the title is || Florida Mayhem ||
raw ermine
no u
balmy wolf
pog
raw ermine
Hero Pools will be determined by a new algorithm-driven system that compiles hero play rates from high-level Competitive Play matches from the preceding two weeks
Algorithm-driven?
fancy sounding
digital cloud
sounds like a black box to me
supple prism
now that they are done testing different kinds of ban pools in Ranked
karmic grotto
yes?
sullen berry
that was the end of his sentence
so here's where I believe we can look forward to a mass shift in hero pool philosophy
does it involve any innovative tech? Not really
but whatever is done to weigh player usage in ladder
the difference in hero usage from matches exclusively in the league
should be fun to watch
echo quest
@sullen berry probably just looking at gm games
karmic grotto
hmm
maybe he was tired of playing dps
not playing his heroes
so he goes support
swift moth
who's hyped to have their heroes chosen by a cat
digital cloud
I thought it was an algorithm now
digital cloud
I am not sure
swift moth
me neither
swift moth
the algorithm is just nori
digital cloud
I think I would prefer the cat
swift moth
I dont want a cat to steal my mains
digital cloud
what are your mains?
swift moth
moira mei rein
digital cloud
I think the algorithm would be taking those too
swift moth
:(
digital cloud
they are used often, are they not
swift moth
rein is
digital cloud
I think we will be seeing them banned rather often
swift moth
at pro moira isn't
digital cloud
less now, true
swift moth
in ranked mei isn't too common
digital cloud
I guess it depends on where in ranked
swift moth
true
digital cloud
I see it a lot, but I am low ranked
I think it might benefit from maybe having different bans depending on a certain sr range
swift moth
ok but whatabout games in both srs
digital cloud
the range would have to be broad, I think
swift moth
like if you set the threshold to 2000 what if a gold and a silver are teamed
digital cloud
you might have to immediately drop or join ranks for that to work
so I suppose problems would exist
I think having bans universally for all ranks also has an issue, however
but, as a current gold ranked, I suppose I am not exactly qualified to ascertain the problems
balmy wolf
listen to this song
digital brook
Any words on owl tokens?
sullen berry
come back in another 12 hours
tropic herald
Idk
karmic grotto
11k viewers Twitch, ded game LULW
echo quest
Actually
hidden vault
why did they try to trade Hyp for Myunbong? and not Grey for Myunbong lol
karmic grotto
Maybe they didn't saw his potential
echo quest
Myunbong is a lot better than hyp or Grey lol
tropic herald
Also Myunbong is friendly with Sp9rk1e
echo quest
Actually sad how the best support in korean contenders went to Boston
tropic herald
Probably a fat pay check
karmic grotto
@valid carbon false. It's the color of the Chinese streaming website bilibili (owners of Spark)
valid carbon
what do you mean false i asked if it was a coincidence
hidden vault
sullen berry
Obligatory repost https://twitter.com/overwatchleague/status/1248643243408949248
100 Tokens is shallow, this is to get people to buy the exclusive Doomfist skin for half the price
balmy wolf
Any news about Mouffin?
hidden vault
Nice post
gaunt acorn
@balmy wolf what do you mean
gaunt acorn
@balmy wolf nobody is pressing charges
he was cut from his team, and he is likely to enter an arranged marriage now
to save face with his family
that's all you can expect
rotund sail
are Titans still in NA?
rotund sail
ok
i was abt to say, having them play at 3 am vs china being mid day is very fair
they still dont have a photo for leave lol
rotund sail
ameng was lagging lol
dreamy cave
rip hunters
digital brook
They played at 3 am??
sullen berry
yes
they play at normal times in Korea
that's this match started at KST 5PM
elsa not on DVa is no good
because ameng on wrecking ball was really exciting
dude the reverse sweep potential from chengdu has just went up
sullen berry
GodsB shutting them down
sullen berry
Jjanu isn't as strong with out Dva
dreamy cave
jeeeezz
hot heart
Fissure just rolled them for a min
dreamy cave
charge please prove me wrong
hot heart
Then he got rolled back
austere adder
I put 20€ on philly today
hot heart
Isnt it the philly paris rematch?
hot heart
Yeah probably philly
hot heart
Unless xzi pulls a fucking godly carry out of his ass
dreamy cave
thats later today?
austere adder
Yes
hot heart
Which he could tbh
dreamy cave
im not cought up on matches jeez
austere adder
I don't think he will
hot heart
I meant paris
austere adder
And philly put a 3-0 againt them
dreamy cave
thank goodness
austere adder
The match philly vs paris was probably thr best match of the owl, and philly lost really unluckily
echo quest
I’m still shocked Fury is not playing
echo quest
?
austere adder
Bruh
hallow zealot
somehow titans are losing to the charge :I
candid rivet
charge 2-0 titans? tf is this
hallow zealot
im kind of disappointed as a titans fan
candid rivet
same
usually shock and titans are rolling their opponents but shock lost 3-1 valiant and titans are now losing to charge?
hallow zealot
i have no idea
half totem
Slime is sick/ injured I believe
hallow zealot
oh
candid rivet
they should bring in haksal
upper niche
Didn't SFS lose to LAV?
half totem
Either that or he’s the worst Baptiste in history
hallow zealot
hey taizo you have my name
upper niche
And then BOS beat LAV?
hallow zealot
thats pretty cool
half totem
Cuz when they run 2x flex support they’re way too predictable
upper niche
or was that DAL.
half totem
Wait r u Japanese?
sullen berry
DAL beat LAV
hallow zealot
half
sullen berry
wild
half totem
Yo sick me too
upper niche
That's right. and LAG 3-0 DAL after SEO 3-0 LAG
candid rivet
yo wtf is going in
half totem
I’ve never met another taizo lmfao
hallow zealot
same
candid rivet
i honestly have no idea who is gonna win this stage
hallow zealot
but fr i stayed up late expecting titans to win
half totem
Well it’s been close
half totem
Cuz stitch is deadlifting atm
sullen berry
EZ GZ
half totem
And like seominsoo has looked really good on doom and mei
hallow zealot
isnt haksal a better mei and doom than seominsoo
half totem
I mean that’s what I thought but seominsoo hard carried on sanctum
hallow zealot
hes good, but i dont think hes good as haksal
sullen berry
Jehong looking like he's having fun on his off picks on main support
half totem
I mean if titans don’t put slime back in he’s definitely unable to play for whatever reason
sullen berry
This is some Kaiser Reinhardt on the Charge
hallow zealot
titans dont look as coordinated as usual
half totem
Cuz they are going to need lucio 100% on assault
sullen berry
You wouldn't have expected double shield to be played out like this
dreamy cave
please, beat the titans. ill be a charge fan i swear, just beat them one more map
hallow zealot
and slime could be the best lucio other than moth
half totem
Well dva and reaper getting banned was huge
half totem
If either reaper or dva weren’t banned I don’t think 2x shield would be meta
Cuz like we saw last week with reaper u can straight up run over 2x shield
hallow zealot
jjanu has a good roadhog, not sure why hes wasnt trying to mirror crong on nepa;
*nepa;
half totem
And dva eats orisa pull making her garbo
hallow zealot
dammit
balmy wolf
Titans are about to roll
half totem
Well they probably didn’t scrim anything other than dive on Nepal
hallow zealot
dive looked shaky against all that cc
half totem
I mean aside from jjanu’s ball they executed almost perfectly
half totem
I’d say it was more a consequence of getting sent back to Korea cuz of corona
And not having enough scrim time
hallow zealot
its like the titans dont know what to do when they cant nano blade, which is disappointing as someone who really likes the titans
did the charge just set the volskya record
hallow zealot
to be fair theres not much you can do to impress on orisa
hallow zealot
i remember when the titans were good
balmy wolf
The bm
dreamy cave
is anyone elses screen frozen?
hallow zealot
just refresh
hallow zealot
washed
hallow zealot
the titans seem to fail when they cant nano blade
balmy wolf
Even the casters are disappointed
wintry kraken
meanwhile Nero spamming voice line 😄
rare magnet
ok shut up nero
half totem
It’s prob cuz haksal can’t hanzo very well
wintry kraken
@rare magnet could be worse, they could play doomfist and spam "And they say" 😄
hallow zealot
well haksal can play doom mei and genji
half totem
Perhaps titans were fullpreparing for the chengdu match
wintry kraken
no touch LOL
hallow zealot
and stitch is inconsistent
hallow zealot
b r u h
dreamy cave
walks up
half totem
Dude what
dreamy cave
one swing
sullen berry
Guys this gave me corona
dreamy cave
kill
half totem
The only not close match was volskaya
hallow zealot
my favourite team disappointed me
sullen berry
GZ EZ
sullen berry
@hallow zealot hang in there
dreamy cave
NEW CHARGE FAN RIGHT HERE GUYS
half totem
Lol y’all crazy
balmy wolf
Who plays next
half totem
Titans are still top 5
sullen berry
Sleep time?
dreamy cave
there gonna be my number 3
hallow zealot
is vancouver suffering the same fate as philly?
balmy wolf
Titans are trash
sullen berry
Vancouver just don't have it down yet
half totem
Overreaction monday
sullen berry
Remember Jehong Flex support god LUL
hallow zealot
ryujehong is washed
balmy wolf
Titans can’t play unless they have solid meta 
sullen berry
Nero and Jehong are seriously good buddies
But Nero sure knows how to trigger him irl
hallow zealot
hero pools arent good for the titans
half totem
I mean they’re not all of a sudden Boston lmao
sullen berry
Haksal is malding
hallow zealot
toilet bowl rematch pog
upper niche
ugh, OWL scheduling. Second match scheduled to start at 8; both matches finished by 8:10.
hallow zealot
still kind of salty about that charge match
sullen berry
This is a pretty good schedule
I don't have to be up all night
But if I wanted to I could
Because his was a very convincing win on Titans
And yet
I think most teams will be underestimating the true value of the match
Just because there was a 3-0 on the board doesn't mean Jack when they face the titans
Spitfire will be slammed unless Glister really blows people away in the Asia servers
balmy wolf
Anyone know of any leagues or tournaments soon ish?
karmic grotto
HAHAHAHAHA
I fucking knew
Some guy said on thread, Titans would win 3-2
I said
Charge would win 3-2
It was better than I expected
3-0
balmy wolf
Charge rolled titans
sullen berry
There's an inherent American bias that reminds me of the USA vs UK world cup outcome
8% Team UK
Kek
They eliminated what was a pretty good team on paper too: Sinatraa, hydration, moth, rawkus, space, muma
obtuse obsidian
I don’t think it’s biased. Titans on paper are a better team
hidden vault
The 2018 match?
sullen berry
Yeah it was an unexpected stomp with GOATs UK
So much of Kruise, Fusion and Kyb's stock that year
Went wreal high
hidden vault
And USA unexpectedly stomped KOR last year
obtuse obsidian
Honestly the format for the WC was so garbage last year it made it a lot less memorable
tropic herald
Twitter
swift moth
hi guys so I just checked to see how the matches that happened when I was asleep were and I noticed the titans got shit on...
raw ermine
indeed...
swift moth
does anyone have any idea why?
raw ermine
well
swift moth
I thought the titans were a strong team
swift moth
ok
raw ermine
but Charge went 7-0 last year in a bunker meta
where they play nearly the same comp as this one
and fissure, while he isn't bad, his orisa is just ok
swift moth
gotcha
raw ermine
the dive comp was getting destroyed by the mei walls and freeze
but they didn't change
and when they did, they looked a but better, but charge are just better at bunker
swift moth
I kinda hate hero bans because it's really hard to figure out which teams are good. That and we haven't seen half the teams
raw ermine
in the playoff there won't be any so that's where we see the truly good teams
swift moth
true
barren quest
Kinda what happens when you run dive into Orisa, Sigma, Mei and Mccree
cloud latch
I saw it was a quick match and thought titans 3-0
dapper folio
does anyone know when seoul dynasty plays?
it feels like every other team has played again but seoul
swift moth
they beat the glads last week
karmic grotto
You know what
I didn't watch he whole match or anything
I just came back to my room, I saw the match last 1 hour
so I knew: either titans rolled, or charge did
and I predicted charge would win 3-2
So I went and saw first map
After charge won first map, I knew the rest
tropic herald
Wait
I have an interesting statistic
The Dynasty is finally a Dynasty
Only lossless team now
dapper folio
wheeze
but alot of seoul dynasty players got switched out so sometimes it doesnt really feel like seoul dynasty
tropic herald
I bet if you showed someone last year the top 10 rn they’d be confused
dapper folio
well i mean they dont have alot of context to go off of
tropic herald
Seoul, Philly, NY, Atlanta, Shanghai, Paris, Vancouver, Spark, Guangzhou and London
Even showing this to someone a few months ago
dapper folio
tbh im suprised guangzhou made it top 10
tropic herald
They may not be top tier in China
But the fact is the Chinese region is overall the best region to play in now
dapper folio
its a little ironic you say that during the outbreak
tropic herald
Not the intention of the message
But they are easily the strongest region is what I’m saying
dapper folio
indeed
celest spear
Boston vs Houston today PauseChamp
tropic herald
raw ermine
just because they didn't play Haksal, twilight, and slime, doesn't mean they are a worse team
I would have put titans around 3-7, not 11th
karmic grotto
electric gunaloo
dreamy cave
im behind on some of the matches, i need to binge them soon
haughty blaze
Predictions for philly vs Paris?
raw ermine
Philly
dreamy cave
philly agreed
raw ermine
Akshon has posted VT-GC highlights
raw ermine
probably outlaws
dreamy cave
whos outlawd dps again?
raw ermine
Danteh, Hydration,
dreamy cave
and fuel win
worn falcon
OutLOLs
tropic herald
Danteh Blasé Hydration
raw ermine
linkzr, and Blase
tropic herald
And Linkzr
worn falcon
!!owlpools
haughty blaze
For me I reckon paris, outlaws and dallas
worn falcon
smh forgot the command
worn falcon
Which ones are the banned?
haughty blaze
Matches are starting in like a minute
tropic herald
Uh
dreamy cave
yeah i think outlaws win if they play the reaper doom, but they might not so idk
haughty blaze
Reaper is banned
haughty blaze
The hero pool is reaper, sombra, dva and
tropic herald
Ana I think is the other???
dreamy cave
damn, i didnt know the bans came through already
haughty blaze
Yea
austere adder
dreamy cave
not the MA!
austere adder
Carpe
haughty blaze
worn falcon
!!owlpool
young fractalBOT
The current Map Pool for OWL is:
Control: Ilios, Busan, Lijiang Tower, Oasis, Nepal
Assault: Hanamura, Paris, Volskaya Industries
Hybrid: Eichenwalde, Hollywood, Numbani
Escort: Dorado, Rialto, Route 66
The current Hero Pool for OWL is:
Tank: Wrecking Ball
Damage: McCree, Mei
Support: Brigitte
worn falcon
This is outdated I guess
haughty blaze
No its not
austere adder
It is
haughty blaze
It is outdated
dreamy cave
is that for pc or consol or what?
haughty blaze
I was saying its wrong
tropic herald
For OWL
austere adder
Lol
worn falcon
Smh admins
haughty blaze
Nooo
dreamy cave
i know this is owl server, i just thought the information wasnt for the OWL
austere adder
Carpe pog
worn falcon
SoOoOooOooOoOoOoOoon
austere adder
haughty blaze
I
Why does funny astro look like bill skarsgard
austere adder
Carpe pog
worn falcon
Mei 
austere adder
Carpe is legit the best ow player, ever
No doubt
Ivy on the mei
Carpe on the cree
Gg
austere adder
If I get torbjorned I'll lose my mind
austere adder
Fuck
austere adder
tropic herald
worn falcon
The 🐟 on tracer
dreamy cave
so tracer now
worn falcon
dreamy cave
t fighters
modest vine
does owl not stream on twitch anymore
tropic herald
No