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deep wolf
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I thought the viewers could not see the match chat because everyone was typing in it. I wrote it as a joke, although I should not have done it regardless of whether the viewers could see the match chat or not. I will make sure something like this never happens again.

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wintry kraken
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all this while casters still have open mic at breaks

woven hill
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NA PRODUCTION!

midnight sage
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This map so far SymRly

karmic grotto
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???????

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Wtf danteh and Muma

midnight sage
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Danteh EMP oof

karmic grotto
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First, Muma let's himself die

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Misses Jecse Soundbarrier

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Then danteh emps on top

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Lol

midnight sage
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Well this map should hopefully be done quick

karmic grotto
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I forgot something

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People thinking ChipSa will play, but it's actually heesu

midnight sage
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Jesus Christ muma stop dying

karmic grotto
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Muma back to feeding his brains out and dying

midnight sage
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Soon ouch

tawny sinew
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Why would soon broadcast his ult like that

midnight sage
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CHAT NO LONGER HIDDEN

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Woo

raw ermine
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oof

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Combat log?

midnight sage
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More sex big dick

raw ermine
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lol

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High quality comedy

tawny sinew
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Rough Getty lost track of be best and couldn't keep the heals up

midnight sage
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Let's go Houston, complete this map

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Lmao

raw ermine
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HAHAH

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ok

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that was good

uneven wren
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bruh

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lmfao

midnight sage
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Solid bleeps

woven hill
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So that's allowed huh.

midnight sage
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Man, you are salty about this haha

uneven wren
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bleep button op

woven hill
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IT'S PETTY AS FUCK

midnight sage
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I bet if you yell about it enough Blizzard will cancel the fines

woven hill
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They didn't cancel Warcraft 3, so i doubt it

midnight sage
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Wow Nico on fire

woven hill
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Doom will get even more nerfs now

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he's in OWL, so he must be nerfed

karmic grotto
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Paris hard clutching

gloomy vector
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f

midnight sage
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RIP

weak bolt
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Muma holding those shatters for the next map again

midnight sage
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Shredded

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They need to do something about Nico

weak bolt
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Or just go aggressive themselves, they seem so passive

sand pond
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Muma mia

timid vigil
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what was with that meko bomb

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was he throwing

weak bolt
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was a re-mech I think

timid vigil
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there was noone with him

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dude outlaws got obliterqted

weak bolt
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Probably punched a mile by doom

timid vigil
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rawkus is doing jack shit on healing

weak bolt
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Muma/Meko just look so unco-ordinated

tropic herald
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BenBest kinda hot doe

timid vigil
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@weak bolt does meko speak english

weak bolt
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Only the basics for OW I think

timid vigil
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literally replace rawkus with rapel

dry mesa
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"happy halloween"

raw ermine
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obslucio

tropic herald
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OBSLucio

weak bolt
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Outlaws need to replace Muma/Rawkus imo to ever be a good team

timid vigil
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muma would do better if he was coordinated with meko

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hes a good winston

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but on rein he chokes a lot

weak bolt
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His winston is ok yeah, but struggles on rein

timid vigil
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rawkus shouldnt really go aggro at all

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with this comp, healing is very slow

gloomy vector
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big f

timid vigil
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gg

inland pawn
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is muma really OWL level KEKW

raw ermine
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CHIPSA TIME

weak bolt
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Outlaws should have grabbed Kaiser for Rein play

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Kaiser/Meko combo would be nasty

tropic herald
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OW community: nooo you can’t just use ults whenever you want

timid vigil
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muma needs to work on his decisions when pushing

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jeesus

tropic herald
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Paris: mmmmm q shiny mmmm

queen comet
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Can someone explain to me why are doomfist and reaper the current meta on OWL?

tropic herald
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No stuns

timid vigil
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no brig

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no mcree

weak bolt
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Because how do you stop them, no stuns

tropic herald
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Reaper is anti dive

supple prism
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no mccree

queen comet
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Oh ban heros are also in OWL?

timid vigil
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rawkus wasted so many ults and he didnt get value outa them

tropic herald
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Yes

weak bolt
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yep

supple prism
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supposedly you could torb instead of doom but i dont think its good enough

queen comet
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Ok makes sense then

tropic herald
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Ball Mei McCree Brig

weak bolt
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Brig/Ball/Mcree/Mei this week

tropic herald
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This weekend

woven hill
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the Throw heroes

timid vigil
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are they gonna keep banning all cc

woven hill
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they need to delete all CC

weak bolt
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Can't ban them this week, has to be new heroes

tropic herald
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CHIPSA WAITING ROOM

deep wolf
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guys: theory

weak bolt
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Chipsa or Heesu, place your bets

deep wolf
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chipsa will finally play

woven hill
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Heesy

queen comet
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When is echo going to be live?

deep wolf
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he's playing from home so he can use this special chair

clear crane
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ooo fusion

weak bolt
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Echo meant to be going to Live on Tuesday, probably 2 more weeks before in Comp/OW

raw ermine
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Heesu is hitscan

clear crane
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Chipsa plz

raw ermine
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Chipsa is doomfist

deep wolf
weak bolt
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Imagine if Corey Torb slaps Chipsa on doom, it'd be the biggest Meme OWL has seen

tropic herald
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ChipSa is the hottest OWL player

karmic grotto
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Heesu gonna play

tropic herald
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So now we just sitting silently waiting for ChipSa

karmic grotto
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Or we get Jebaited and only play heesu and ChipSa first map

weak bolt
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Match chat enabled on the weekend Chipsa may start, co-incidence?

tropic herald
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I don’t want to get jebaited

karmic grotto
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It's heesu

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We got Jebaited

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ChipSa plays next week

woven hill
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F

tropic herald
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There’s a fist in this

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Bruh

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Please

karmic grotto
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It's heesu

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Lo lmao

weak bolt
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Imagine if they bring in Chipsa and make him play Torb

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Ultimate jebait

tropic herald
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NO

woven hill
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Philly wins

karmic grotto
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Hahahahahajajahha

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Jebaited

raw ermine
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NO

karmic grotto
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I told you

clear crane
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booooo

raw ermine
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JOKERS

clear crane
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baited

outer zenith
raw ermine
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HEESU IS HITSCAN

woven hill
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OH LOOK, HEESU IS PLAYING

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SHOCKER

raw ermine
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ppl are disliking

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lol

karmic grotto
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Hahahaua

inland pawn
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no chipsa no win

karmic grotto
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He's right

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He still can play

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Double jebait

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ChipSa still can play

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Let's hope bois

raw ermine
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ttuba too strong

weak bolt
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Go 2-0 down, bring in Chipsa and reverse sweep

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The ultimate storyline

outer zenith
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Go down, 0-2. Bring Chipsa in out of desperation. Somehow lose 0-4.

karmic grotto
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You have to realise that players rotation are made before match starts?

weak bolt
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They can change them between rounds, they don't have to set them for all maps beforehand

raw ermine
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this a betrayal

woven hill
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the Doom skin sucks

karmic grotto
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Change with rounds means = they have to submit which players are going to play each map

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It's already decided before match

frozen perch
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wow

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They're still not running Chipsa

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What even was the point of signing him

balmy wolf
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popularity

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and attention

karmic grotto
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He still can play

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2 maps left :)

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Wait until the third map

balmy wolf
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yeah but he wont

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atleast not in a serious game

weak bolt
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If they're 2-0 up and rolling, I think he'll appear

outer zenith
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Even if Philly choose to never sub in ChipSa, they've already gained more attention just because of the "allure" of seeing it happen.

weak bolt
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Carpe Torb, lets go

outer zenith
raw ermine
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carpe torb is the funniest thing ever

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just thinking that is funny

karmic grotto
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XD

outer zenith
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Admittedly, I haven't kept up with this weeks games, save for the few times I've popped in to take a look. But based on what I have seen, this weeks Hero Bans have really led to a rather set composition compared to previous weeks.

weak bolt
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It's weird, because the Chinese meta was totally different

outer zenith
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That's... Actually not too surprising.

raw ermine
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bastion and sym vs torb

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in OWL

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wow

outer zenith
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China is known for going off the script.

timid vigil
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bastion??

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wtf are this comps

dry mesa
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bastion

weak bolt
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It's like a gold game strat

dry mesa
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i love it

timid vigil
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theyre all stuck in there

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lmao

dry mesa
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get rekt

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my sweet innocent bastion

tawny sinew
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Cheese. That was hot

dry mesa
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wasted shatter

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ok?

outer zenith
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I respect the attempt.

weak bolt
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I want to see Washington vs Chengdu, that is the meta match we need

outer zenith
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Not the Shatter, mind you. The Bastion attempt.

tawny sinew
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Anyone already have a clip of the bastion Tele?

karmic grotto
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Would be nice if the sound didn't had delay

timid vigil
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if a team a actually wants to work out a comp with bastion, they need to test it constantly

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torb is finally being played

outer zenith
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Desperation nut.

karmic grotto
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Wtf did Torb say in the end?

outer zenith
timid vigil
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you should try my meatballs..

weak bolt
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Imagine if last year someone would say 2 of the best hitscan players in OWL (Corey/Carpe) would be having torb fights. You'd have never believed it

outer zenith
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Have we seen much Dive this weekend, or has it really been the Rein/D.Va/Reaper/Doom show?

weak bolt
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Chendu tried Dive and it went horrible

dry mesa
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they were playing dive into anti dive heroes

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despite that it was closer than you would expect, still lost tho

weak bolt
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Was a lot more Sombra/Pharah in Chinese matches, but generally it was Rein + dva/sigma

outer zenith
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Ah. But it's Chengdu, so that's to be expected.

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Okay.

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So, at least Chinese teams made it interesting.

timid vigil
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lmfao

weak bolt
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Turret MVP

timid vigil
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the turret

raw ermine
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LOL

wintry kraken
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7th player wins the game

dry mesa
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torb turret lol

timid vigil
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that moment

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reaper knew

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he was done for

tawny sinew
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That was the worst way to get the w
Fucking turret and Moira

inland pawn
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auto aiming turrets are fun and skillful WidowLUL

timid vigil
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he shouldnt have faded

inland pawn
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even i could be an OWL player then KEKW

dry mesa
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placement matters

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there is strat in placement and controlling areas and sightlines with the turret

outer zenith
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Two turrets: The Torb turret, and the Moira.

timid vigil
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let ana nanoboost the torb turret

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thx

outer zenith
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Auto-aim and more auto-aim.

dry mesa
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moira is not auto aim

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its a cone like winston

outer zenith
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...

dry mesa
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the auto part is purely visual effect

timid vigil
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she can suck someones health easily

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their hitbox is bigger for her

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so tracking for them isn’t really a big deal

outer zenith
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See?

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Bush gets it.

dry mesa
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no

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it is well known that moira's suck is like a cone, like winston

inland pawn
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if your attack fills up half the screen, you can hardly call it tracking WidowLUL

timid vigil
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and those stupid moira orbs are like magnets

dry mesa
timid vigil
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ah yes

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aim assist

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aim assist and moira

dry mesa
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important to know how things work so you can understand the interactions they will have

outer zenith
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Alice... It was a joke.

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Please, stop.

timid vigil
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hammer time

outer zenith
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Hammer time.

clear crane
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SIT

raw ermine
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🪑

outer zenith
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Who said Carpe needed hitscan?

timid vigil
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lmao

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the chat

raw ermine
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hahahah

tawny sinew
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I liked the open on plug
New sponsor 🤔

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Openvpn*
Autocorrect is a whore

wintry kraken
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fusion throwing

raw ermine
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thats kinda cringe bro

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losing to WJ

timid vigil
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carpe: aight im out

raw ermine
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lol

tawny sinew
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Can you blame them?
They haven't needed to take volskaya seriously so far

weak bolt
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I hope this goes to 2-2 and they use a torb 1v1 to decide the game

outer zenith
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It's great to actually get a taste of the in-game banter.

timid vigil
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i think they hided it now

raw ermine
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LOL

clear crane
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lmfaoo wow

tawny sinew
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Lol hesu.
Big dick

raw ermine
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memers

weak bolt
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It's turned on deliberately, the teams were pre-warned

outer zenith
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Of course.

raw ermine
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ok

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sub in chipsa now

timid vigil
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carpe just recorded the 13th hammer kill

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of the league

clear crane
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LMAO

raw ermine
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HAHA

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OMG

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these guys are memers

weak bolt
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Time for Chipsa?

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2-0 up and rolling

karmic grotto
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No

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It was a jebait

timid vigil
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chipsa torb

karmic grotto
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But at least it's true

deep wolf
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i just want to see chipsa brutally fist others ZenyattaCry

karmic grotto
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Heesu first time

timid vigil
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what if carpe is chipsa????

weak bolt
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It'd be the double jebait if they brought him in now

timid vigil
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or heesu

outer zenith
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They're saving ChipSa for a Map 5. Justice have to earn his grace.

timid vigil
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it’d be triple jebait if heesu turned out to be chipsa

karmic grotto
outer zenith
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That kid totally just fucked over his teeth.

clear crane
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they up 2-0 plz just put in chipsa for one map

solid hatch
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That Carpe hammer kill tho

tropic herald
raw ermine
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Chipsa or riot

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RIOT

karmic grotto
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Nope

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Not this time

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Fusion hardcore PR jebait

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I don't think these were maps to play Doomfist on compared to other maps

weak bolt
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WJ seem to never really kill Carpe's turret, but Corey's is killed every fight very quick

clear crane
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Getting curb stomped

upper niche
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ahah quote of the year, "Reaper without his cooldowns is a potato"

karmic grotto
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But these match is so easy

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Why not ChipSa?

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I'm very disappointed in Fusion, but as their coach said

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He will be playing soon

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And he better fucking hope what says is true

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Or else he will get angry fans on his door

clear crane
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damnn

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nice set up

weak bolt
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You'd think this week would be the week for Chipsa over any. WJ and a doom meta that works. Can't imagine he'll be played at all into any mcree/mei metas

outer zenith
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If I'm being serious on the matter of ChipSa receiving play time, I'll maintain exactly what I said two weeks into the season: We'll see him come out once/if Philly have secured a comfortable spot in the Playoffs.

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Once that happens, Philly are free to meme as much as they wish.

weak bolt
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I can't wait for the OW forums tomorrow "Torb is so OP, look at OWL, plz nerf"

karmic grotto
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LOL

outer zenith
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Speaking of the OW forums, I need to go there sometime this week to check in on the residual Mercy-ban salt.

karmic grotto
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700+ dislikes

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For not bringing ChipSa

outer zenith
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OWL is paying for Philly's insolence.

weak bolt
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Surprising lack of mercy threads on forums atm

sullen berry
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how on earth was this discussed

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like everything is going to be fine

weak bolt
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They told the teams beforehand

sullen berry
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lastral

outer zenith
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The "Big Member" incident of 2020.

weak bolt
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Best response to that so far was Super's dad

sullen berry
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from owen 7

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to sbd 9

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valiant have been on the two ends of memery

clear crane
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yay lastro

weak bolt
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I think Mcgravy said he was paying 1/4 of Lastro's fine for him too lol

sullen berry
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i feel like this calls for an vr chat visit to in n out

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with noah's sprite as valla

weak bolt
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Poko with the spice

outer zenith
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Slaptoon, he says.

clear crane
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Fuel have the potential to pull a S1 Shanghai

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actually maybe not that bad. Florida S1

weak bolt
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I reckon Unkoe is going to retire to go play Valorant

clear crane
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him, akm and sinatraa prob going over

weak bolt
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yeah I expect Sinatraa to go over to some degree, might be why SF have kept Rascal

clear crane
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i think he said on stream he wouldnt even be on the team anyone if it wasnt for being under contract. hard to turn down the money

weak bolt
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Valiant molten core is awesome, I want it

clear crane
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is Aero just a bad coach

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the majority of his sucess basically came from a crazy talented FU and the star studded Team USA

cloud latch
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I guess so

wary briar
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yo me diamond DPS player on console

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why don't I get 13k views on Twitch as a amateur scrim starter for my team

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bruh moment

weak bolt
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DF coaching is a big issue imo

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Same problems 3 years running isn't a good sign for the coaching

worn falcon
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Interesting move, just don't post "sex big dick" PogChimp

tropic herald
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Holy crap

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Decay

weak bolt
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These Rein's showing what Outlaws are missing

tropic herald
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Decay kinda popped there

weak bolt
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Valiant were 0.01m away from capping 3rd point lol

tropic herald
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That shatter by Gamsu

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Was slick

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Wow

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Gamsu and Decay stepped it up

weak bolt
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Decay literally carrying DF right now

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KSP isn't having a great game imo, he needs to be doing more

balmy wolf
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lol gg

tropic herald
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waiting for the

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You lost to the Fuel

balmy wolf
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val choke this match so hard its not even funny

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also fire dreamer and gig

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dogshit maintanks

weak bolt
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Dreamer played good imo, it was the LAV DPS that were outplayed

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Decay just out played them today

balmy wolf
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bruh both reins couldnt block for shit until gamsu on the last map

tropic herald
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It’s been 301 days since fuel have won a game

weak bolt
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Both just played hyper aggro so going to get less blocked shatters

balmy wolf
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yea and thats how lose map 3

weak bolt
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Both played far better than Muma did earlier

tropic herald
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That was Decay saying I don’t want to lose again

weak bolt
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Pretty tough to be a MT in OWL at the moment I think, you need to be good on Rein & Winston and probably Ball with hero bans

tropic herald
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So Dallas won

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Being an MT in OWL means you have to be good at all the MTs or have a substitute MT that can cover your weak MTs

weak bolt
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yep, and I think most teams dont have that

tropic herald
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I’d say NY, Philly, Shock have that

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And Atlanta

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Let’s see

balmy wolf
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titans

tropic herald
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Vancouver does

weak bolt
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and Seoul

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Marvel Gesture is a nasty combo

tropic herald
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Most teams have it

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But Dallas and Valiant aren’t in that group

weak bolt
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Dallas/Valiant/WJ/Outlaws will all struggle imo

tropic herald
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Yes

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They have not great MTs and/or OTs

weak bolt
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Philly only have Sado I think? Hopefully he doesn't get boomed at some stage

balmy wolf
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the only reason why dallas won was because the other team played like actual dogshit

tropic herald
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Sado to the naked eye looks cracked rn

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I think Alarm FunnyAstro is quite a support line to back up Sado

balmy wolf
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All im seeing from dallas is another effect carry while everyone else is bad around him

weak bolt
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Imo Shock aren't great on the MT front. If Rein stays meta they may be ok, but do they have a decent Winston?

balmy wolf
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thats smurf job apparently

tropic herald
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Smurf is more Orisa Winston

weak bolt
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Not sure i've ever seen Smurfs winston, be interesting. We know for sure SF can't play ball haha

balmy wolf
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But i dont see dive ever coming back so it doesnt even matter

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Smurf plays ball as well

weak bolt
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It's a long season, we could see plenty of changes

tropic herald
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Dive can come back but it requires nerfs and a certain pool

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Plus dive has already been played

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Just not OG

weak bolt
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Mei nerfed soon, wouldn't surprise me if Mcree is done too

balmy wolf
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rein got banned that week

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when dive was played

tropic herald
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Yes

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When rein is gone dive is good

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Also Chinese teams playing a funky dive last week

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So...

balmy wolf
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u mean just the hunters

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who looked like crap most of the time

tropic herald
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Last week there was a Ball Zarya Doom dice

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Dive

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Which was not just Chengdu

balmy wolf
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oh im referring to this week game

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where they looked bad

sullen berry
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that scoreline

tropic herald
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Lol

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This week was not a dive week

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Last week was fine

sullen berry
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dreamer did okay

tropic herald
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It wasn’t dreamers fault they lost imo

sullen berry
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objectively, he didn't need to carry this team

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gamsu did

tropic herald
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KSP didn’t look comfortable on the reaper and the Torb was slowly losing value throughout the series

outer zenith
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A shame that the first week Mei gets banned is also the week with the least overall diversity.

balmy wolf
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rain needs better sound barriers

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whatever either way both teams played pretty ok for the most part, it was just seeing both teams make horrible mistakes that cost them maps

sullen berry
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support were worn down this weekend against shock rematch lowkey

tropic herald
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I’ve determined however

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Lastro MVP

dry mesa
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player of the year surely

supple prism
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got 2 of the 3 perfectly correct

worn falcon
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Wait no bans after those matches?

raw ermine
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@worn falcon its in 6 hours

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well, at least then next day is, then the pools will be drawn

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Cause of the observance day, the chinese matches were shuffled along 1 day

sullen berry
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Which means more quality OW League \o/

worn falcon
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Oh true, chinese matches

tropic herald
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And they are rematches

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Go Shanghai

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VAL10k SFS10k FLA10k just realized these haven’t been updated

sullen berry
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Curiously, how can we source them if they aren't remade yet

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@gaunt acorn pog week for ating, the trill of Pacific east

karmic magnet
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could anybody coach me

supple prism
crystal pagoda
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What’s up gamers

karmic grotto
echo quest
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He retired damn

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Gg

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Hopefully he has fun in valorant

sullen berry
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just reading it back you can hear his joy and motivation to grind another game

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hopefully

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to learn from his success and failures

sullen berry
sullen berry
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Lengsa

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well there's your ||3-0 for shanghai, rip|| ChengduHunters

hazy stream
#

oofiee

#

Did Shanghai play against Seoul yet

#

cuz Seoul will need to teach them a lesson

jagged crater
#

taimou looks like he wasn't having fun with OW for 2 years

#

and he's out of OWL, it was the best decision for him

idle gorge
#

TORONTO WON AGAIN (i know it's late, i forgot they had to play lol)

hazy stream
rare magnet
#

there's nothing funny or interesting about playing torb in owl

hazy stream
#

who plays torb?

outer zenith
#

Everyone does this weekend.

upper niche
#

Have the audio production team gone to bed or something? :?

#

holy crap Just noticed, 12,703 viewers!

echo quest
#

SHITE

outer zenith
#

This is the US stream. It's 6 AM on EST and 3 PST on a Monday morning. Of course the numbers aren't going to look good.

slim haven
#

And the middle of the day in Europe on a Monday.

outer zenith
#

I'd be more interested in what the actual Chinese/South East Asia stream numbers look like.

upper niche
#

It started at 6pm in the evening in Australia, the perfect time.

sullen berry
#

It's always a great set of bedtimes stories from the two zhous ✌️

#

I think spark have got this

#

@dry mesa its time, we watch #pressw or #sparkbang

#

Nepal again for an epic map 5 showdown

upper niche
#

So I've discovered Marbula One... it's so much better than listening to Wolf cast OWL 😄

sullen berry
#

I mean at this rate

#

Wolf sounds like Anthony Fantano

#

This could be a fun 99/99

#

Hacced blossom 🌸

#

And Charlie 9 on control

#

That's going to cost them

outer zenith
#

A true-blue C9, at that.

#

That's that.

slim haven
#

Fun match.

sullen berry
#

Clumsy for them to take it to map 5 for the third match in a row

outer zenith
#

Perhaps. 4 games down. 24 more to go.

#

Here's hoping this round of bans grants us a more interesting micro-meta. Never have been more bored this season whilst actually observing gameplay since Hero Pools were introduced..

sullen berry
#

No cats to ban Hammond now

#

Now that he is released to chengdu's relief

#

"you be my cat for this one" - wolf, to his lover achilios

slim haven
#

No nori boo

outer zenith
#

Last week we had a cat select the bans. Why not a "Wolf" this week?

#

Silly OWL.

#

Missing out on easy marketing.

#

I'm learning Korean on a OWL stream.

#

Pog

sullen berry
#

Wolf is a magician

#

Turned Korean translator

#

And now

#

Korean OW language teacher

#

Amazing

outer zenith
#

Also, why Ana?

sullen berry
#

Ana had 2 cards

wintry kraken
#

banning in Korean, he could fake anything with help of koreans

#

i bet they will ban Rein

outer zenith
#

I know she did. I meant, WHYYYYYYY ANAAAAAA?

sullen berry
#

Smh Shu is starting to look pretty good on moira

#

Tank time

outer zenith
#

As in, I'm voicing my displeasure.

nocturne fox
raw ermine
#

YES

sullen berry
#

it's Winston?

raw ermine
#

DVA

#

sadly ana

sullen berry
#

What oh snap

slim haven
#

Dva

#

Dva and ana so far

sullen berry
#

no Korean esports girl in her big mech

raw ermine
#

imagine torb

#

lol

sullen berry
#

Torb is the ideal candidate

weak bolt
#

Back to Rein/Zarya/Mcree/Mei meta this week I guess

slim haven
#

Fun

sullen berry
#

So all the players in the league can laugh at how ridiculous hero pools is when skewed in NA's favour

outer zenith
#

I'm soooooo ready for the Ball/Winston Dive that only Chengdu will play...

raw ermine
#

moira lucio

outer zenith
sullen berry
#

Here we go

raw ermine
#

yay

sullen berry
#

ai-ya

slim haven
#

Not too bad.

sullen berry
#

Time to bring back Happy

raw ermine
#

I heard 3 syllables and though

sullen berry
#

So-m-bra

raw ermine
#

torb-j-orn?

#

idk

sullen berry
#

Loosely speaking

raw ermine
#

reaper

#

rip talon

sullen berry
#

Reaper mate

slim haven
#

Reaper?

#

Ah.

karmic grotto
#

Oof

sullen berry
#

Now now

karmic grotto
#

ChipSa HAS A CHANCE

sullen berry
#

We haven't lost sigma

#

Double shield holaa

karmic grotto
#

wait

#

Why another draw?

#

oh nvm

sullen berry
#

Wdym

#

Did you miss Another dps

karmic grotto
#

He was putting the cards away

outer zenith
#

Double Shield. Yay...

karmic grotto
#

I thought he was going to draw it again

sullen berry
#

Double shield waddup

#

I'm calling it now

raw ermine
#

roadhog is picked less than torbjorn

#

lol

sullen berry
#

Go back to season 2 playoffs

karmic grotto
#

Lucio/Moira/Orisa/Sigma/Mei/Doomfist?

#

Back to stage 4

sullen berry
#

Look at those teams and tell me how Seoul will beat spark

karmic grotto
#

xD

sullen berry
#

Theoretically speaking, theyre not in the same servers together

karmic grotto
#

Too soon to speculate, we have to see what will happen, but please, I need to see ChipSa on the Doomfist

#

wait

#

fuck

sullen berry
#

Nah I love the thirst you all have only for chipsa

karmic grotto
#

Mccree is back

sullen berry
#

👏

outer zenith
#

Suffice it to say, I won't be watching any NA teams next week.

karmic grotto
#

Mei is back, Mccree

#

Brig

sullen berry
#

Schedule is alright

karmic grotto
#

wack

sullen berry
#

Feels too early at 8am for games

#

8pm for Asia server matches is awesome

#

But can anyone convince me that this new structure makes sense

karmic grotto
#

Unless they could have

sullen berry
#

Now that Vancouver and London have decided to move to Korea and join the Asia servers

karmic grotto
#

Moved everyone to Asia

#

What about that?

#

oh wait

#

NA is fucked

#

LOL

sullen berry
#

China wants business to continue

#

And America as a media outlet screwed themselves over not listening to China

#

To be fair, they wouldn't

karmic grotto
#

Houston OutLULs vs Boston Downfalling

sullen berry
#

Oh my god

#

Now I have to watch these Atlantic division games

outer zenith
#

The rematch.

sullen berry
#

That's where most of the scuff broadcasting is happening

#

But we get to see a lovely rematch

#

At least another FOUR times this season

karmic grotto
#

Who can throw harder, Muma or

sullen berry
#

Well who can they throw

#

Oh hey finished before midnight here

#

It's Tuesday, my dudes

karmic grotto
#

?

#

You live in aus

outer zenith
#

Well, Sombra and Ana are out, meaning the Outlaws still can't play their Hack-Fist/Dive composition. So, I'd imagine Boston will take it handily.

sullen berry
#

Hell no I'm not some adolescent 🐨

tropic herald
#

What are the bans?

#

Oh

#

Dva Ana Reaper Sombra

mortal dune
#

Oh D.va's banned, been waiting for that one. Love Dva, but I wanna see how the pros adapt without her

analog lark
#

Torb had an 18% pick rate jeez

#

In the owl no less

#

Torb was finally meta for a week

mortal dune
#

Torb is actually GOOD now, mcree is just better. Torb pumps dmg out, but doesn't have awful falloff like reaper

analog lark
#

I mean i knew that he was good, but still, to imagine that he used to be a throw pick that people just reported in comp

#

Like back in 2016/2017

#

To an actual viable hero

mortal dune
#

Pretty much all of what used to be the defense class (bar widow, one-shot is always at least decent) used to be a throw pick tbh

#

Like Hanzo with scatter was annoying, but also terrible at the same time

echo quest
#

Damn SDB hasn’t played since the world cup

raw ermine
#

I had a dream Munchkin got signed by the SFS

tropic herald
#

Quite a dream

tropic herald
#

Decay

raw ermine
#

damn

#

didn't finished watching that match but decay must have brought it back no?

tropic herald
#

Yes

#

Decay

#

More like

#

God

balmy wolf
#

Decay is the best

split ice
#

Why aren't some teams playing for multiple weeks? I need my NYXL to play

raw ermine
split ice
#

Thanks my guy

worn falcon
tropic herald
raw ermine
leaden osprey
#

if overwatch league is going to be streaming on YT how do we get the drops?

digital cloud
#

for now, we don't

raw ermine
#

Damn

#

Now that taimou has retired

#

We only have HarryHook left in OWL from the original Envyus

tropic herald
cloud latch
#

pepehands

tropic herald
#

@raw ermine Mickie

raw ermine
#

he is retired

#

he is an envy content creator now

tropic herald
#

Where

#

Wit

raw ermine
#
tropic herald
#

Oh

echo quest
#

Coco retired Micky Retired Effect retired Taimou retired Chips Retired

#

Feelsbadman

cloud latch
#

Idk why but I thought you said chipsa

tropic herald
#

FuelsBadMan

raven socket
#

any chance nyxl play again?

#

they canceled their games because they were in new york and that stopped them from working

#

what if they just move to kr?

raw ermine
#

The lock down prevents that for them probably

#

to be fair, esports are essential

hazy pagoda
#

Is it worth risking the players health though

#

If they get sick that’s 2 or more weeks out of scrims

grizzled mango
#

I think nyxl already went back to korea. NY is prolly the worst place to be in world rn

hexed girder
#

I mean California is shut down but SF and both LA teams are still playing

karmic grotto
digital cloud
#

who/what?

karmic grotto
#

no idea

#

just that toronto academy team dropped

#

I fully agree with him

digital cloud
#

ah

karmic grotto
#

Contenders is a joke

digital cloud
#

why move to Valorant?

karmic grotto
#

Activision is a trash company

#

Since Riot is good with esports

digital cloud
#

might as well go to CS:GO

karmic grotto
#

And good backing up T2 and T3

digital cloud
#

that is popular, and has good support

#

Valorant is basically that

worn falcon
#

Valorant is new game

#

more viewers for the moment

#

then drop like any game

digital cloud
#

sure, but isn't it also risky?

worn falcon
#

apparently OW players did the same, play during the beta, forming teams

#

then evolved to what we have now

karmic grotto
#

Would be nice if devs

#

could push Push map mode

#

Nobody ain't time waiting till December to get OW2

tropic herald
#

Sugarfree quit OW

#

gg go next

karmic grotto
#

Post the tweet

cloud latch
karmic grotto
#

ah

#

thnx

#

RIP Overwatch

#

Valorant gave them the push they needed

#

Blizzard SHOULD distance themselves from Activision and actually connect with some company that DOES care about healthy environment of competitive gaming

dark tinsel
#

LondonSpitfire = 👑

karmic grotto
#

sugafree

#

young kid, and already retiring from pro ow

tropic herald
#

T2 is actually a joke now

#

Two NA academy teams left

#

Started with 9

raw ermine
#

sus devs gg?

#

what does that mean

tropic herald
#

Suspicious developers good game

raw ermine
#

ok

#

I was wondering

#

is all this fallout happening in Korea?

tropic herald
#

I don’t think so

karmic grotto
#

NA isn't being supported

#

NA doesn't know how to support itself

echo quest
#

Sugarfree retired. Damn kid was a legit monster but he was three years away from being eligible for the league and the league doesn’t look like it will be around by that time

karmic grotto
#

Carpe made good decision to stay on Fusion for three more years

#

because then, ow is ded is they don't split themselves from evil activision

echo quest
#

Season 2 killed them

karmic grotto
#

tokens not being available is one of the biggest issues

#

HOW THE FUCK IS IT STILL NOT THERE

#

2 MONTHS AFTER HAVING THE DEAL

#

NOT A SINGLE SIGN OF A BETA TOKEN SYSTEM FROM FUCKING GOOGLE

#

Casual player base won't die, but competitive scene will

echo quest
#

Numlocked on Pro Overwatch: Everybody wants out. Nobody is happy with what Blizzard are doing. COVID putting extra stress on everything. People want to get out of OWL. MTL Rebellion wasn't the first and it wont be the last to pull out of OWC. Unless there are big changes it going to get worse.

tropic herald
#

It’s almost like the pro scene is terrible to be in

echo quest
#

Problems of having a single league

#

League doesn’t have this problem

tropic herald
#

They should liquidize the league

#

And let natural events happen

echo quest
#

The odd thing is other Esports viewership is going up during this time

tropic herald
#

Why would someone watch OWL

#

Most people don’t want to play OW why watch it

echo quest
#

LPL on twitch is getting 40k people watching for trash games. People outside Asia tuning in to watch bad teams play which is crazy to me. Before that never happened

#

LCK is also getting 60-70k for bad team matches which is wild

karmic grotto
#

Even CSGO

echo quest
#

No doubt the league of legends regions pro scene revenue has taken hit because no more venues

#

But their Viewership is going up

#

Unlike overwatch

weak bolt
#

OWL viewership is an odd one, with videos now on youtube, people are more open to watching the VODs rather than the live streams

echo quest
#

Vods don’t mean shit. You can be on it for 30 seconds and be counted

weak bolt
#

Of course, but 500k views on Saturdays matches already, it's not a small number

#

Without tokens people are less inclined to watch live. Just watch it next day and skip the ads

karmic grotto
echo quest
#

He quit too dAmn

weak bolt
#

T2 is going to die, that's been the case for a long time

karmic grotto
#

NA scene will die

#

not so much Korean or Chinese

echo quest
#

T2 been gone

karmic grotto
#

but eventually

#

they too

#

too many academy teams going

#

If blizz just

tropic herald
#

Well

karmic grotto
#

let pros hold their own tournaments outside of pro league

weak bolt
#

The whole academy scheme was never going to work imo, not enough incentive for owl teams to do it

karmic grotto
#

to engage the viewers

tropic herald
#

77% of the acad teams have left

weak bolt
#

Why run your own academy when you can just poach from any T2 team anyway

echo quest
#

Blizzard just suck at esports tbh. Ngl Apex was way more entertaining than OWL

worn falcon
#

is too much money, plus the slots for OWL

tropic herald
#

It shouldn’t have been franchised

echo quest
#

The storylines, the beef, the godlier camera work I wish OWL has that

worn falcon
#

also on this COVID situation is hard too

tropic herald
#

Especially this early into the game

echo quest
#

@worn falcon it should increase viewers

#

And yet

karmic grotto
#

OGN right?

#

OGN should have been the OG production group

#

Jeff was right

#

forcing owl without growing the competitive scene

#

bad move

weak bolt
#

I think a lot hinges on valorant and OW2, if Valorant turns out to be not as hyped, and OW2 brings back the players, Blizz have time to sort things

karmic grotto
#

which players?

echo quest
#

The beef between teams were the shit apex

karmic grotto
#

Activison blizzard greedy chinese overlords

echo quest
#

Bunny saying Taimou is ass later to get domed on Dorado

#

That was the shit

tropic herald
#

Taimou PepeHands

weak bolt
#

Was Apex ever aimed at family viewing though like OWL? It's hard to have the banter/beef while still trying to get on Disney XD

karmic grotto
echo quest
#

Sugarfree,Tviq,Taimou, are the biggest

karmic grotto
echo quest
#

@weak bolt shit was way more entertaining

karmic grotto
#

That's why the chat

#

is good

#

banter chat

#

even with lastros sex big dick

tropic herald
#

Shouldn’t have been fined

#

:)

karmic grotto
#

exactly

echo quest
#

With the korean players having a singing contest in front of the fans. Stupid shit like that made it so enjoyable

weak bolt
#

Depends who your target audience is though, maybe Blizz thought going family friendly was going to be bigger overall

karmic grotto
#

if it was normal competitive with apex, it would have not happened

#

@echo quest Runaway egirls fans group

tropic herald
#

Just liquidate the league after this season

echo quest
#

This was the shit

#

LMAOOOOO

weak bolt
#

Imo if they get to end of S3 OWL and OW looks in a good position, open up franchise for 10+ more teams. Create 3 or 4 leagues with the finals all coming together at end

karmic grotto
#

that production

#

is unique

#

not too formal

#

but not too casual

#

just right

echo quest
#

OGN production is something else

#

LCK were partnered up with them till 2016

#

Iirc

karmic grotto
#

OGN fitted OWL competitive scene so much

#

perfectly made for each other

#

until.... ACTIVISION

tropic herald
#

Yes

#

Make leagues

#

Not one global one

karmic grotto
#

You had Apex right

#

and what else

#

Not really a surprise since i havent been competing for a while but im also pretty much done with OW. I dont really enjoy the game anymore and i dont really enjoy the esports scene OW has built over the last 2-3 years. Not exactly sure what i'll do next we'll just have to see...

echo quest
#

Tanizhq: MTL Rebellion got dropped. I am moving to Valorant since OW Tier 2 is fully dead. Can't even blame the OAM/Toronto for making this decision, since getting 1k viewers max on the contenders stream isn't worth any level of investment.

karmic grotto
#

Yup

weak bolt
#

Everyone should take a drink when an OW player declares they are becoming a valorant pro

tropic herald
#

SDB not retired but took a break

karmic grotto
#

OGN is the only good production team, and APEX the only great competitive invironment

#

OGN x APEX = MADNESS

echo quest
#

They should. Shit is ass now

karmic grotto
#

Because you know what?

weak bolt
#

What happens if Valorant turns out to be awful

karmic grotto
#

If APEX was a thing

weak bolt
#

Where do all these T2 players go

karmic grotto
#

Those standalone teams as Runaway would have had esports orgs or other orgs backing them up

tropic herald
#

Either OW

#

Or CS

#

Or just drop esports

echo quest
#

The new format for T2 is such fucking garbage

karmic grotto
#

You can have Runaway, KDP, Envy running APEX and still getting good salary

echo quest
#

They were cutting cost

raw ermine
#

I came back to this chat and sarcastically thought, "ok, I have return after 5 minutes, whose retired now?" and lo and behold, the kyb tweet

#

yikes

weak bolt
#

Valorant Pro's is literally just becoming 1 giant meme now

karmic grotto
#

How was Apex and OGN paid?

weak bolt
tropic herald
echo quest
#

Old contender format was eh but miles better than the current one

tropic herald
#

Maybe this will be a good wake up to Blizzard

karmic grotto
#

apex the best

#

Those original teams battling it out

weak bolt
#

Imo it could be win-win for Blizzard

#

If Valorant is good for Pros, they can go full casual focus on OW2

karmic grotto
#

we have have higher quality matches if teams werent split up to OWL franchise

#

we could have*

weak bolt
#

If Valorant turns crap, they can fall back on OWL

echo quest
#

Pengu and Gull had like a 4 hour convo on esports and Pengu said a way r6’s pro interest was increased was having a shit ton of pugs between the pros. That got banned by OwL for some fucking reason

#

And they killed every non Contender tournament

karmic grotto
#

Example: Old Runaway (S2), vs New Runaway (before they got signed for S3)

#

EM vs Selfless gaming

#

Envy vs KDP

echo quest
#

BK stars

tropic herald
#

Selfless PepeHands

echo quest
#

Too

tropic herald
#

O2

#

Meta Athena

echo quest
#

Such good teams

tropic herald
#

Giganti

echo quest
#

And than dark horses in Might AOD

#

Who could always upset teams

karmic grotto
#

Imagine seeing this

#

Multiple streams

#

OGN x APEX

#

All those players

weak bolt
#

That was what, like 4-5 years ago now though?

karmic grotto
#

Yeah

#

This is basicaly reminer of all teams

tropic herald
#

Seeing so many teams

karmic grotto
#

that were in pro scene

tropic herald
#

That are gone

echo quest
#

Seagull talked about this with Pengu (Siege pro) when they had a long conversation about e-sports. Basically compared how CSGO players just play PUGS all the time which not only is good entertainment for stream and good competitive practice for players but also helps give exposure to the pros who don't stream by appearing on those who's do streams.

karmic grotto
#

But imagine if they didn;t die

#

@echo quest exactly

weak bolt
#

Not that many games out there that keep a pro scene going for that long either (Exceptions for LoL/CSGO)

karmic grotto
#

I remember jayne hosting a few pugs

#

of semi pros

#

that shit was awesome

#

casual, but good matches between pros and 4.4k players

#

But blizzard kills

echo quest
#

Jake hosted the pugs guys like Sinatraa were getting 10k viewers

karmic grotto
#

the viewers option

echo quest
#

And then one day it was banned

karmic grotto
#

^^^^^^

echo quest
#

For some reason

karmic grotto
#

We could still have had the big streamers

echo quest
#

It wasn’t even limited to the pros

weak bolt
#

I thought Pro Pugs just had to be requested of Blizz, didn't think they flat out refused them all?

karmic grotto
#

What OW should have done, is working together with OGN and APEX

tropic herald
#

If it isn’t during a match who cares

echo quest
#

OW’s elite like Calvin,Wraxu

karmic grotto
#

Let the teams play while creating skins from those teams

#

EASY REVENUE

echo quest
#

@weak bolt pros stopped playing ranked

#

Cuz why would you when you play pugs

tropic herald
#

But that’s not entirely

#

Trrrible

weak bolt
#

They should have just said host all the pro pugs you like, but on PTR. Then you get full testing of balance changes too...

karmic grotto
#

Doesn't matter @weak bolt they killed everything

#

Everything to attract viewers

#

anything to attract fans

echo quest
#

Now it’s nearly impossible to do

#

Which sucks

karmic grotto
#

I don't care about homestands now

#

I wish you COULD have homestands, but of teams

weak bolt
#

Imo it's just a case of the game getting older anyway, there are new shiny things out there so viewership is always going to drop

karmic grotto
#

Runaway KR? Then Korean homestand. LFZ China? Then Chinese homestand

echo quest
#

Everyone was in it Profit,SBB,SDB,EQO,Libero. Basically the best of the best

#

It was way more fun to watch

#

Than comp

#

Deadass

karmic grotto
#

Dafran would be in the scene

#

ML7

#

Harbleu

#

Emongg

#

etc....

weak bolt
#

How many of the big OW streamers jumped to Fortnite/Realm Royale etc when that came out

echo quest
#

TYLER1 had his own mini tournament and it got 100k viewers. Blizzard would never allow that

tropic herald
#

Tim is the first that comes to mind

weak bolt
#

Root problem imo is OW as a game is losing it's attraction, rather than the pro scene. I bet majority of people barely play compared to 3 years ago

karmic grotto
#

THEY HAVE FREAKING CHAIRS AND DESK

#

and sponsors

#

look at this

echo quest
#

@weak bolt the thing is ow is by no means dying

weak bolt
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dying nope, but is it as popular as 3 years ago? no where near

tropic herald
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3 years ago

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It was the game

weak bolt
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I am curious how many of these players who are jumping to Valorant, if no pro scene emerges reasonably quickly, or they fail to make it, will flood back for OW2

karmic grotto
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And it still could have been

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if BLIZZARD

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didn't kill it

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or better said

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ACCTIVISION

echo quest
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Blizzard made a brain dead decision killing non Blizzard tournaments

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Those Monthly Beats tournaments were pog too

karmic grotto
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monthly beats?

weak bolt
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Blizzard are a business, they do whatever makes them most money. Creating 400mil buyin league probably more profitable than letting community run tournaments

karmic grotto
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Haven't heard of them

tropic herald
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Here’s a big collection

weak bolt
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Only HyP is the shock there imo, the rest are either washed up or never made it to OWL, and are now risking it all on Valorant

echo quest
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OW2 to succeed as a t1 esport needs actual promotion also for its T2 scenes,Marketing players,Stop constant changes,better balancing and to not kill non blizzard tournaments