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please ban orisa
i hope orisa
delete evry new hero past ana
ZARYA
F
2?
weighted pools failed
nahhhhh
another week of double shields then
much more
In before Tracer/Doomfist bans
Cat selection
I bet Zenyatta
brick
Lucio getting banned absolutely destroyed the shock this week
ahaha chat is spamming brick
Did they ban anybody or did it just start?
Zarya
zarya
Oh boy, Sinatraa is done for
Yeah
Banning Zarya barely effects anybody
Brig, thank god
rip tracer
DIVE HERE WE COME
cat MVP
You got this CAT! Pick MEI!
Nori needs to be the hero
lol
Lucio got banned and the shock lost two games today cause moth is essentially a lucio onetrick
already better than josh and mr x
Yeah
in before Tracer/Doom bans
I love how everybody is trying to get rid off Mei, lol
Yup
Yes
please remove mei
tank rigged
from the game
zarya isn't dead
What?!?!? No Redo dammit
they didn't have sig
Ye
Space is an amazing sig he just doesnt play him
Glad we saw alot of genji and sig this week tho
MEI BEGONE TH*T
This is the most scuffed thing ever. Imagine this being on ESPN
RIGGED
AGAIN
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
NORIII
YESSSSSSSSSSSSss
Yessss
NORI CARRY
MEIII
WE DID IT
THIS IS LIFE
WOOT!
MEIIII
BRIG AND MEI
SUCESS
LETS GOOOOOOOO
OFFICIALLY BETTER THAN JOSH AND MR X
YESSSSSSS
nori the savior
POG
YEs
SUCCESS*
LETS GOOOOO
NORI MUST PICK EVERY WEEK
BAN ORISA
DVA was used a lot?
Nori pog
DVa and Orisa were 2 tickets
a lot of tanks
LOL
'Genji is sigma'
I think so
blessblessblessorisadiebless
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
RIP Chengdu
waity
NOOO
NOOOOOOO
RIP
Chengdu us dead
Chengdu may be done for
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
CRYING OVER HERE
Rip chengdu
REJOICING OVER HERE
what u mean
NORI
not an egirl
carpe can play tons of dps
UNLEASH AMENG CHAD
Although he does hitscan best
he can still do widow tracer
custa just said we might see rein zar
carpe is tracer god
carpe's most famous hero is widow
Ye
and before that it was all tracer
Now he might actually get to do hitscan
cya
mccree almost every dps is known for it
Fair
and reaper but i dont think u need much for reaper
every dps knows how to play reaper
Everybody knows how to play reaper
Ask sinatraa
but sombra is around
is philly playing next week?
idk
we could be seeing a chipsa
dont you dare
Lol
i remember learning em 10- years ago'
Rip
very good
what are the OWL bans this week? I don't want to watch the entire scuffed 22 minute segment
thanks
as picked by a cat apparently
Technically ball was picked by a second cat
Niki was clutch with the mei ban
xDD
the first cat was called NORI don't get are saviours name wrong
It's Rapel's birthday today
is rapel on a team?
Houston
oh
no brig no mei kinda hype
No Brig, no Mei, no McCree means dive
nori is the breaker of bunker
!!owlpool
The current Map Pool for OWL is:
Control: Ilios, Busan, Lijiang Tower, Oasis, Nepal
Assault: Hanamura, Paris, Volskaya Industries
Hybrid: Eichenwalde, Hollywood, Numbani
Escort: Dorado, Rialto, Route 66
The current Hero Pool for OWL is:
Tank: Winston
Damage: Soldier: 76, Sombra
Support: Lucio
🤔
@limber pine When you get the chance, can you update the OWL hero pool with Zarya, Mccree, Mei, Brig? All Hail the Meta Breaking Cat Nori!
Yea
This cat will bring balance to OWL
I felt that when houston went for meko rapel and jesce their dynamics may have been broken
or at the very least go for someone with mix roster experience
@limber pine Made a mistake, Its not Zarya, its Ball
Why you do this to me
SORRY THEY BROUGHT OUT A NEW CAT FOR TANK BANS!
I trusted you
!!owlpool
the first pick was apparently a 'test' round
Dont trust me Sprite, Trust Nori and Miso
!!owlpool
The current Map Pool for OWL is:
Control: Ilios, Busan, Lijiang Tower, Oasis, Nepal
Assault: Hanamura, Paris, Volskaya Industries
Hybrid: Eichenwalde, Hollywood, Numbani
Escort: Dorado, Rialto, Route 66
The current Hero Pool for OWL is:
Tank: Wrecking Ball
Damage: McCree, Mei
Support: Brigitte
Zoe confirmed weeb though..
lol
When the cats are better on desk than desk
When a cat picked Mei
Cat > human
@Cat
pogu
Hanamura point b is the worst
Everyone say thank you Nori
@balmy wolf if you're talking about comp, Paris is still banned
Lmao he still has his defiant shirt for a boston short
So he went from a Chinese OD team to an Academy Team in 1 week
Speedrun from OD to OWL attempt 2 any%? PauseChamp
UA needed dps stateside
He could be okay now that he’s not going to be playing Zarya or brig
sadly he can't break his old record
hmm, we still dont know who is playing next week
is it stupid that i just realized after the thunder skin that Shock in context of San Francisco Shock represented electricity?
i always thought it meant earthquake waves shock, because of how much those happen in San Francisco
i figured Shock represent sound waves
since their logo has the goldengate bridge/sound wave thing
Yeah same here?
I just watched the InternetHulk video again man
That’s a heartstring puller of a video man
nOMEGALUL
@restive sable #video-content instead please
I know where Rascal is going
My sources told me that he's tired of being benced so he wants to go to a strong team that will start him and make a championship run. They said his preferred team is Boston and if he doesn't make Boston he will likely drop out of OWL and go to NA OD
Does Somebody know on which date the Overwatch League ist playing again?
This Saturday
If he goes to Boston then he is an idiot
he should go and smurf in contenders again
go to NA OD? lol why
maybe spark
Depends
krystal isn't on spark
according to liquidpedia
He is still
Dude
Rascal to Glads
Start him with Birdring
Good old KDP
Probably more flexible and consistent than Jaru or Mirror
I like Rascal to Glads idea
do we know who plays this weekend?
They should have a schedule soon
Hey guys any words of league tokens?
ovw
ooooh new match schedule
and no more live matches for the rest of the season
F
Vancouver gets to play the Pacific west teams
nice
Stats arent updated yet but i think i won my draftbuff match up.
Looks like i can switch back to my preferred team for the next two weeks as well
pogu rematch for lav and shock
And a shock glad rematch? The fuck
philly vs atlanta o:
oh God
ChipSa
is gonna play
As coach said, We would see him very soon
And with these anti CC bans and no Mei
Holy SHIT
mei mccree gone
CHIPSA WILL PLAY
unless atlanta is gonna run sombra lol
I really hope chipsa plays
5th of Aperil
april
yes
he will play
coach confirmed it
not when, but very soon
So I guess this week
Dallas also finally playing
Don't worry guys, we'll be back soon once the @SeoulDynasty are situated and safe back in Korea. In the meantime, I can guarantee that we'll stay undefeated for the next two weeks. https://t.co/PB7lEKQMtA
?
Lol

Today is the day for some exciting legit signings
I await some twitter storms in the next 24 hours
some of these upcoming rematches seem a bit... soon
wonder if Houston should do well against Paris again, since the meta favors them similarly to last time, but with the considerations of how Paris did against Philly
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would that this had happened with Dafran still there
Dafran becomes delivery boy lmao
would that it has happened with dafran still in owl... then what? are you gunna finish your sentence
context, Gamer
he is amozing
We’re still training out of a converted hotel meeting room. We haven’t received our swaggy Jeff Staple jerseys to wear.
damn
Any t3 team need flex dps
@fading plaza go to #lf-players-na and post your message there.
@raw ermine ok
after this great win from defiant, i'm sure they'll be the champions
yes i know it's hard to take in, but it's true
oh fuck this channel is meant to be serious
kappa
Also, Pumper is not dead, but in some PUGs games https://www.twitch.tv/videos/579819126
</3
the man still have the shift key glued
Yes I watched his stream yesterday he was scrimming
Is there an official console league?
why can't bumper go back to runaway lol
No official console league
Sombra is still in tho
Doesn't matter
Play around Sombra
And for sure they are scrimming against Sombra comps
What stops Doomfist is not Sombra, it's the CC
If I'm correct
Last weekend Sombra was available
But not played
Yet there was Doomfist
!!owlpool
The current Map Pool for OWL is:
Control: Ilios, Busan, Lijiang Tower, Oasis, Nepal
Assault: Hanamura, Paris, Volskaya Industries
Hybrid: Eichenwalde, Hollywood, Numbani
Escort: Dorado, Rialto, Route 66
The current Hero Pool for OWL is:
Tank: Wrecking Ball
Damage: McCree, Mei
Support: Brigitte
Last week
We were talking about sunday
Referring to Last weekend Sombra was available
Yes but I’m talking about the second paragraph, where Adriel was talking about last week, thinking Sombra was available and I’m correcting on that and saying Sombra was not
sombra best girl
I could see Sombra Doom
Winston Dva, Doomfist Sombra, Ana, Lucio
Or else Rein Zarya in Lijiang Tower
Anyway, will be interesting week
:)
Oh no
Doha and Sombra
Dallas finally winning a game?

Trading the stage for the comfort of home.
At the team house for the Uprising’s first #OWL2020 online match in Sights & Sounds presented by @Bose. https://t.co/kC2YRdSqrv
mineral seems to know what he's doing but he's a nervous nelly
that has to reflect on the players
Doha is going to play ffs are you okay? Decay is also the best player in the world and will carry Dallas to at least 5 Overwatch League titles. Don’t ever diss Decay again
@raw ermine
I was just remembering in playoffs of last year when they put Hydration on sig
and decay played doom
Doha will play Doom
We have an incredible dive team. Get ready for a Gladiator Upset and a 3-0 stomp on the Valiant
Doha's best character is sombra
maybe in a non sombra comp, but in hackfist, his sombra is so much more vital
It will probably be a tracer/sombra or genji/sombra comp
We can honestly run any type of dive
I’m not worried about dive period
It’s going to be full dive
Lucio
But no brig, cree, or mei. Literally 3 anti dive heroes
Well, dive historically has countered Deathball (That isn't goats)
I still see doom Sombra no matter what
That’s at least what philly seem to be testing
I think
Fish'n chips
does anyone know what happens if you bough tickets to shows that are canceled? (i looked at the support on bungie website its trash i have no idea how to use it. keeps sending me in loops)
lmao yeah i mean blizzard sorry. the only 2 games i play are this and destiny so i get the b words mixed up. lmao i didnt even notice. but yeah i checked that website and same thing i said, i cant complete the support thing. or i dont know how to navigate it. i did the blizzard e sports, and view category, typed my question, and it says you sure you still need help? i click that then it tells me to check other things and ends there with no way to submit. i did click the 2 suggested things and said "not helpful" to both thinking maybe it was waiting for me to do that, but still nothing
@safe oar most homestands have announced automatic refunds will be issued over the next few weeks
which homestand did you have tickets to?
these events are hosted by the individual teams, not blizzard, so you'll receive no help on the blizzard support site
@safe oar from the dallas fuel website:
Refunds will be processed within 5-7 days. Refunds will be sent to the card that was used to purchase the tickets. If you have
specific questions regarding tickets, feel free to contact colby@envy.gg
Yes, taxes and fees will be refunded as well.
i love you. thank you!
hey does anyone here still play overwatch not as much anymore?
@short tundra might be a better question for #general-discussion or #overwatch
this is an esports channel
@safe oar np!
ok
spicy post for a wednesday 🦀
https://twitter.com/vancovertitans/status/1245200106812510208?s=21
and all they have to do is change their name
plus the pfp
and then all the magic is gone
@sullen berry doesn't really work now that april fool's is over and he changed his account name + pfp back
what logic does twitter have to allow tweets to look like that to this
Someone give me their zoom class, you'll see it in youtube. After giving me your link I'll give you a link to my channel.
But speaking of the Vancouver Titians
They should have kept either Bumper or Tizi
To back fissure
I suppose the management wanted to boot bumper but made the team unhappy so they booted both main tanks to be fair
well you'd probably have to cut two salaries
to pay for one
think of any number of reasons why would fissue want to return to overwatch
I would narrow it down to being tied down to the culture - job hunting for work in tech with no relevant work or connections is unlikely at best
Interesting point
this season they have played twice
and they play twice in the weekend after this one
aka week 10
How was fissure?
He was good
Nothing really poor from them
Jehong got subbed in once and we got a couple nanoblades
they are 2-0
they were playing dive?
I see
so far, it seems he is doing good
He’s fun to watch
🇫🇷 Le joueur de @ParisEternal @HyP_ow annonce son retrait d'Overwatch.
🇬🇧 @ParisEternal player @HyP_ow announces his retirement from Overwatch. https://t.co/LHZe8e7Rjp
oof
:(((
They have Greyy
He played in 2019
Apparently there's a rumor going around that HyP retired because Paris tried to trade him and Hafficool (from Eternal Academy) for Myungbong. HyP didn't want to go to Boston, so he retired.
they're gonna have sparkle, no?
Nice one @hollow osprey
lets go dude
wf hyp retiring
Take the quiz
I got haksal
i too got Haksal
noice
what does it say we are like? I close the tab before I read it and don;t feel like redoing the survey
I found it nvm
I don't see anyone getting JJANU
I got Slime
taimou winston pogchamp
I'd love for super to be my house slave
Super's twitch:
twitch.tv/supertf
My tweeter:
twitter.com/stefayylmao1
watch this for a lol https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZlbtFBKj-Gg
thats not OW
@trail lodge So Go defiant was wrong?
Takes a while to get result
im excited for houston to play again

No
just got a cheez-it crunch ad
Jesus slime is just like me lmao
Mouffin pulled a Dreamkasper, rip
Boston really should background check their players or something
Dreamkapzer only did what he did cause he was "Famous"
He messaged a fan who followed him
a younger one
was Mouffin actually proven to have done what he is accused of?
for Mouffin, idk if anyone knew about this stuff before he joined boston, cause he alledgidly "bribed" his victims
well
They have pictures of DM's he said
and testemonies
but nothing in a court of law
its strong enough that boston investigates it
I wonder of dream would still be good
Well
it was said he sexually harassed girls of all ages, and sent nudes, and bribed them to not talk
but there is no overt evidence of this?
as of now?
or we don't know?
just curious, because several people are acting like it is a done deal, so to speak
I don't think that would be enough in court
but I don't think that is nothing, I guess
That is why their is an investigation
I suppose so
just wondered if it was basically open and shut case, as some people seem to think
saying he is the new DreamKazper
People screaming fake news here that they supposed read from others. Vague assumptions. Let the investigation put the case forward when they're done investigating
I’ve seen multiple different people who are unaffiliated with eachother say the things about Mouffin is true
And he’s already got a decently bad rep in T2 from what I’ve heard
never said it wasn't real, but I wasn't sure what investigation there had been
assuming either way is, I think, a bit early
whatever the case is, it is unfortunate that it keeps happening to Boston
it can't look good to keep hiring people that are accused or found guilty of sexual misconduct
Hello you know tournament OW in ps4
With China issuing a national observance on April 4, we are delaying this week's Chinese matches 24 hours. Matches in China will now take place on April 5-6.
Read more: https://t.co/G86Y9zivOx
Chinese matches delayed
Not that bad of a delay seeing as we are in a pandemic
oh a day of mourning
thats what they mean by observance
watch the game?
Well
If you have a modern TV
you probably have a way to get to youtube
so that way you can
cool
who is better at winston, Super or Smurf?
Smurf
On PS4 u can watch it on tv
Im assuming same for xbox
Idk about pc but if ur on pc just go to yt
for PS4 i think u get there from OWL (when live) > Watch Now > goes to YT or something
Havent played in a week so idk if its changed or something
Smurf is better at Winston
https://youtu.be/zCGcOC-t3ew?t=76
proof why SFS lost to LAV
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dang, delayed, i was up for the matches too haa
games tomorrow and the day after instead 😔
we're going to get watchpoint from home https://clips.twitch.tv/CovertSecretiveKathyTheTarFu
ok before i start, let me first say that i respect all that the league has done into making the games work from home. props to them, cause it is by no means easy to make a league function from home. but i also have to say that the production quality of the matches has rendered them nearly unwatchable
True
I mean
Any overwatch is good overwatch
Quality is important
But i wouldnt stop watching the stream cuz of some technical issues
Worst case scenario watch the VOD
idk if its on anyone elses end but the audio quality is nuked and theres a plethora of frame skips, stutters and lag
nah that's exactly the experienced as it was live for those games
worst hit was the US Eastern games like atlanta, mayhem
hard pass
once the game's visuals properly look like overwatch, an open beta I'll change my mind
I've watched a few hours of gameplay with Seagull and shroud
it's not the same style of game
It's CS:GO Overwatch basically
nah
some of us will prolly have 200+ ping so they're only going to be playing for a taste of the game
unfortunate
i think the OW League homestand sprays
yes, codes for about a dozen spays, went up on ebay for USD$50
Idk why people sell the keys for that high, it’s not even in open beta yet
Why buy any beta key
valorant is yikes
It seems ok
some of the abilities are painfully similar to overwatch
for example the character that looks like a budget reaper that uses an ability called "shadow walk" that is literally identical to reapers wraith
OW has similar things to other games as well
It’s not easy to just create a brand new ability that isn’t similar to other things
But I will say the wall orb, slow orb, res ;)
That character makes me not want to play it
There’s also a character that has an ability similar to Hanzo sonic arrow
Im sure Hawkeye does too
Batman enemy
I’m interested in seeing if the valorant esports will be more successful
Dr freeze
Cause riot took a while to do a franchise model for LoL
They might not do that at first. A lot of criticism for OWL in the beginning was that it felt forced that they had 20 million buy-ins
40m
was it ever even worth that much?
NORI🐱
lol
no idea if they were actually worth that much lol
@distant frigate you blame valorant for having some stuff like overwatch!! HAVE YOU LOOKED AT PALADINS? MOS OF THE CHAMPS ARE EXACT COPIES
lmao that one Fuel vote
Arya =/= Nori
Either way, hilarious that anyone or anything voted for Fuel
Brave vote
Feel like no ball and no brig will not affect much, but no mei and no mccree are much bigger deals
logix tracer?
The decrease in CC will be nice
#WeWantTTuba
NO MEI
oops chat
Doom meta inc
Corey SYM?
jeez nevix
aimgod lmao
Justice oof
anyone's game volume really low
Yes, it needs to go up
T_T
Hol up
TORBJORN
i would hope they would have worked this out by now
READY TO VERK
these Justice ults oof
TD has so many ults
that was rough
Who is banned this week?
I don't care about this match, I want to see Dallas and rematch Valiant v Shock
sick shatter
totally different justice from map 1
turret xd
so stratus is a mei onetrick? xD
attack torb
LETS GET TO VERK
yikes
Torb hype
i want legs
is anyone watching the overwatch league?
oh 
BLANK STARE AT CAMERA
soe is clearly filling in the blanks
my soul
😮
its leaving my body
finally
soe frozen D:
BRUH STOP STARING
now its just bros broing out, we need soe
soe left
BRUH THAT WAS SO HILARIOUS TO SEE SOE JUST FREEZE and then the pure quiet of his smile and stare
that was creepy
She's back in what I can almost swear is a different outfit
gonna have to get my crucifix out
wavy ;-;
damn and it turns out it was just me having the wavy aspect cut
beast...
looks like my ranked shatters
Beast wiffs 2 ults
uh oh
F
yikes
f
i gave them the benefit of doubt on week 1
did you guys know that round 1 was complete?
This esports is a joke
so many problems
this is just absurd on week 2. random streamer has better production than OWL
next up, dentist COD ad
and it is still fucked
what happened to the production levels? Twitch was NEVER this bad
To be fair they never had to do it all online when on twitch.
does anyone have the bilibili stream
That being said this is pretty bad...
this isn't a youtube issue
2020 守望先锋联赛-哔哩哔哩守望先锋赛事-哔哩哔哩直播
twitch was a full scale broadcast, for a production team suited for that
So many people went from YouTube, TO Twitch, it's evolution, just backwards
Valorant already has a better e sports
Torbjorn did so well he broke the stream
lets see, entirely new platform, games suddenly shifted ALL online, global pandemic, ISPs being stressed with all the pressure
Kinda bound for issues to happen
VALORANT esports is going to be top notch, ngl
i mean
as someone said streamers have a better setup
Multi billion dollar company, can't set up a basic e-sports that they've done 3 years before
It's RIOT. It's giong to do extremely well regardless of what shit they put out.
^
they had issues even before they went to lockdown
^^^^^
Anyways the game is in beta for valorant
look at the silver lining tho. the ads and plugs always work without fail
So trying to assume anything rn about it is pointless
Yeah I remember the first ever match was just crunchtime crunchtime crunchtime
Hotba bomb? Nah all I know is crunchtime
I was impressed with yesterday.
I waited 8 hours and didn't get whitelisted
wall is your shield
Valorant is legit csgo lol
@frozen perch other people who never play fps create new account. Gets whitelisted within 10 minutes
it's bs
It's random
More than double will get whitelisted on Tues
@dry mesa gotta admit this makes the chinese broadcast far more prepared https://live.bilibili.com/76
2020 守望先锋联赛-哔哩哔哩守望先锋赛事-哔哩哔哩直播
just repost
China has simple things
Asian streams always simple
It's just desk > match > desk > match
Simple, not broadcast issues
wow theyre back
they're also not as locked down while they are declining in new cases of COVID-19
Meanwhile, America is doing nothing
uhmmm
This is so scuffed
mhm chinese broadcast is top notch and doesn't overcomplicate things
Oh look it's back
*What do you want to see out of the defiant?"
"Did Nori make Torb meta?"
Nori MVP for 2nd week running if she did
It'd take it over a mei meta
i rather take a mei meta than a torb meta
I'd take it over Pharmercy or Mccree
Yeah but Torb has a cool gun.
Zarya just SUCC
Torb meta, with bonus points for hammer kills
let torb shine
nooooooooooooo
Torb or Sym?
ill take more sym
heroes that should never ever be meta
Torb
Bastion
Mei
Orisa
Moira
I'm tempted to put Sym too but cheeky TP plays are hella entertaining
disagree
And Sym's ult line is orgasmic
Too bad the ult sucks
all heroes deserve time in the spotlight
Photon Barrier's fine
There's a difference between a niche hero recieving an appropriate play based on their niche and a should-be niche hero being so overtuned that they overstep their niche and oppress other more general heroes by being better in general and in their niche
sounds like torb is too hot for you
*Hey, out stream crashed, so here the commentators talking for 5 minutes then another 3 minute break"
And back to talking
WHERE IS THE GAME?
B l i z z a r d P o l i s h TM
ooh
they are working on it calm your tits
Imma say it
ahhhhhhhhhh
they're going on the attack torb again
Bethesda at least tried
At least they paused the game, I expected it to come back and be like "So, Washington 3-1 Toronto, how did we feel"
nice timing from agilities and nevix
This is the toilet bowl round 2
Oh, Washington is losing, what a surprise
why does that feel like his first shatter this game?
Why does it feel like roar needs to go back to contenders?
I'm kinda of surprised we didnt see Corey on Hanzo for attack honestly
I’m so sad about Roar, he was so good but if feels like coming into OWL he lost that edge
yeah pro is totally diff
Can only be as good as your team, and owl is a big step vs contenders
The Boston Uprising has terminated the contract of Walid “Mouffin” Bassal.
YIKERS
context?
F
did he diddle?
He’s a pedo
he did a dreamkapzer
ANOTHER ONE?
HAMMER KILL
S4 going to be tilted now
Aimgod on Moira
dieing to the remech thats some cheese
isn't that complete opposites?
Roar just gets rolled over, this torb pick is being outplayed now
solid attack
i'd love to see some junkrat
Stop trying to make Torb happen, it wont.
torb didn't work on defense, TD have found the counter. it won't work on attack
I'd like to see them run Hanzo over the torb on attack. The shield break + ranged damage could be good
TD just focusing Roar down too easy
Kariv picked the moira and they had no healing
maybe after her buffs go live
all those ults just to have 1 dva bomb kill
her buffs are so minor though
can't let the moira die

