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week 6 left ear is out of rotation
NA doesn't know how to be simple either
Mitch is still left ear only
so trash lol wtf
Oh come on give NA a break, this is a terrible situation and its going to be hard for production to adjust.
i dont get the confusion. Youtube has its own streaming rights. Bilibili has their own as well. Basically the NA prod one is prob just fucking up while China and Korea is fine.
My, my.
but the production quality has been so trash this entire league
this is hell
we should be happy we getting matches at all
i understand this happening once or twice, but this is so insane
anyone seen the inside number 9 special?
@novel warren any streamer in his basement can do better than this
they faked technical glitches as part of the horror story
i dont have headphones on so i dont hear its left only
i like the bilibili stream way better, so colorful and fun
bilibili stream?
@novel warren except china is streaming too and they have it harder than anyone else and they are still the same quality as before this
they dressed well
i wish i knew chinese. the emojis on this is cute asf also
they also say hammond not wreckingball hahaa
@green stump You know NA has the most "reported" cases rn right lol
From now until the end of time, Uber shall be known as Mitch Leftie. That is the only way.
yeah but who really trusts the numbers reported by a dictatorship
thats why I quoted it
the virus is getting under control in china and isnt as bad anymore apparently
The onsite infrastructure is prob very stable and worked on for years in CN and KR. The US one is barely 3 years old. I'm pretty theres a shortage of workers working on the US streaming servers rn. Give them a break
Just watch the chinese streams if your struggling so much lol
my social credit score isn't high enough
too bad you would literally have to learn chinese
@novel warren except for the fact that most of those cases are in new york, while this stream is in California
CA's still basically shut down, though
honeslty i dont think i can blame na for all the stuff it does with the matches. because some ppl have short attention spans and having a bunch of moving stuff accross the screen makes it more appealing to the eye
Cali is on lockdown, thats why i dont think there are staffs working onsites as much
The quality of this stream is awful
@green stump bro what you think its nice over in CA right now?
@copper juniper they are uploading via 2G signal
The Chinese games last night was clear and clean
How are the production getting worse and worse?
oh damn mayhem won that fight
do we know where the actual server is located for this?
Why was the games late last night better than this now
Na production pepelaugh
To be fair, Shanghai and Chengdu first game was terrible but they fixed it after game 2 and 3.
why they not playing the match on bilibili they just talking
I want to say the games last night were mainly on west coast, where i think the servers are
is that in LA or do they have somewhere on the East coast for lower latency
https://twitter.com/OWLeagueSigns/status/1244361689212112897 jokes are starting
while atl and fl are east

is there no casting?
@vale pond yup, they disconnected them now
yikes
at least video is now fine it seems
I don't mind the casting, but the skipping frames make my brain itch
true @austere adder
I can totally forgive a bit of NA production but this is almost unwatchable at times
Before USA went pretty much full lockdown, all the games were "acceptable" in terms of quality right? It's not a coincidence that since then the games have been def more wishy washy. We just might have to deal with this until things get better in the states
is the quality bad because of lockdown?
like are the network staff not working or something
@clear crane crunch time
They had major problems troughout the season
edison babybay wack
but were they this bad
@clear crane man, this is the 4th stream this weekend. while previous weren't flawless, this is the worst one.
The meme of memes
also the quality issues are isp side
my left ear hears him now
Spme were pretty bad
network issues
oof
oop casting is here
Thats why I said this is the first game we seen that is on the East Coast
I think all servers are on the West coast in NA
Expecting production to be good when none of them are in the same place some being spread throughout the country
@clear crane on the very first day is owl no this season... During a crucial fight, the na production suddenly went to break for a cheeseits commercial, so you could hear the casterwc going crazy while seeing only crunch time on the screen for over a minute
bilibili finally playing the match wonder why they just were talking
oop
im not talking about that the actual content. im talking about frames skipping and the stream jsut going down
atl is being inconsistent again?
u can try this too https://www.mlg.com/watch/WEguxLJ7RKB/featured-overwatch-videos/overwatch-league-2020-season-day-2-week-5
I can't go get cheezits cause I'm in lockdown 
im surprsied we seeing babybay over erster
Although most people believe the reason why the production is so bad is because of YouTube more than just the production staff
I just made sous vide cheesecake
Dunno, using a sound bar so can't tell the difference lol
who needs cheezits when you've got that
yeah left ear fucked
i wish they just lt the players stream and we watch it from twitch
@gilded peak only the left ear works for people using headphones/earbuds
damn taht went from really good holds to just straight snowball
it's only coming out the left channel of my surround set, too
did florida contest point 3?
are they still doing that pass thing where u can watch in game?
don't think YT has the systems in place for it
Upon checking my sound bar, yeah everything is coming on the left side. Man this is so horrinble
well they literally have exclusive contract with yt
Whatever happened to watching the game via OW game?
Asian streams are simple
Lol YouTube doesn't even have anything in place to give owl tokens... No way they can do game pass
^
They have desk > games > desk > games
wonder how much youtube paid them
gotta buy yo tokens now
@karmic grotto it's nice right?
Exactly
I'm just glad i saved 1300 tokens before this started
It's simple and stream doesn't get issues
ik this is super scuffed, but can we appreciate the difference in dogman's transes this year?
way way better
gator's showing way more halt restraint than I would
I'd've tried to halt that brig off the cliff

NA has:
Countdown > watchpoint > desk > games > [insert random production failure] > games >advertisement > castors> advertisement > castors> games > advertisements > desk
Asia:
Desk > games > desk > games > desk > end
Easy
Why NA can't do it like this?
this casting is p meh rn
Because they care so much about money, they put everything as ads to cash
Instead of keeping the stream simple
Fucking NA productions
I love how sideshow bob is such an ow analyst but is in plat
Makes me feel better about being in plat
Well its a capitalist country. Not sure what you want to do about it lol
they all are
He’s currently diamond lol
wait is this a plat chat too?
im high diamond
I'm high plat very close to diamond
bye gargoyle

did gargoyle just uno reverse hawk's flux?
that was 5 ults lol
we still got this
thats wat im wondering but who knows
LETS GO EDISON
huge delay on the NA stream
Reign has insane dps
damn I wanted to see the gatorball
bqb dancing lol
masaa high ground
dang they just pushed that practically for free
why did 3 people chase dogman lol
their cat lovers
that was good by atl

Mayhem shud try out Gangnamjin on flex. Might as well at this point
Turn up the bass
no one talk about the production now, it stopped its hissy fit and we dont wanna make it mad again
So fucking annoying
its nice with no crowds, they can immediately start the next game without having to wait for the top of the hour. hopefully that means seoul and LAG starts around 5:30 if atl sweeps
well now that you've spoken up they're going to map 7
😬
well since im wfh everyday until this crisis is over no need to wake up early haha
rofl fire alarm
RIP Soe
fire alarm 😄
I wonder how many of the 5 of them are wearing pajama/no pants
holy
babybay is nasty
ATL making a strong case for being my go-to team until Boston gets their shit together
and im am cheering for mayhem
nice job eating that dragonstrike
dont see that everyday
gg
its over

gg
well good effort
I just realized this format doesn't give us access to Dogman's shit talking 😦
prob in game chat lol
Birdring and Rascal were KDP. Hooreg and Profit were GC lol
Why isn't Mouffin playing :c
😢
did anyone just hear a widow scope in on the stream?
You can't make this shit up
why being so mean ... >n< 
Yes
damn that was a convincing first map
I'm confused is marvel a mt or ot
marve1 is such a chad
damn seoul looks really really good
profit gesture bdosin boutta be the first ever 2 time owl champs
Marvel is MT
but
He was one of the MT players who chose to play sig last year in the playoffs
and michelle played Orisa
Ironically, so did Gesture
Gesture got a goooood Orisa though
he does
Zzzzzzzzz
wow. seoul just rolling
hero pool draw better do some work tonight
Ban All CC heroes
damn was that win yesterday a fluke
well what do you define as cc
boops?
or seoul could just be INSANE
i think thats most probable. Seoul are looking insane rn
lmfao now its reversed
seoul got some of the best koreans u can get, i hope they're good! 🙂
I think they swapped their channels, because Matt's also only in the left
lol Seoul is just doing watever they want. Not sure if trolling
audio is good!!
they should split the caster L/R so it sounds like they're on your shoulders
Why did they commit to that?
The grav should have been saved
Glads are just having an awful game, so many wasted gravs that last map. This doom strat just isn't working for them either
Glads playing well yesterday, Shock didn't play well. I'd be surprised if we dont see Shock dominate today
They havent dominated their last two matches
They must be practicing insanely hard rn
I have this feeling theyre gonna go on a map winstreak like 2019's playoffs
They started last season quite slow too, they have enough resources on that team to make changes if needed
is anyone else watching OWL played through my laptop right now
They were kind of like the perfect team late 2019
"we can see"
? @wintry kraken
one of the casters said "as we can see" just in time when the stream gone black (except the team names)
losses motivate shock too, don't forget they lost first match in the grand finals
the production really needs to improve next week or they are gone lose even more viewers
Im kind of just gonna assume theyre gonna keep losing like this
Till theu figure shit out
I'd take dodgy production over no owl. Can't expect the same production as a full studio when its from peoples bedrooms
im not sure the production effects viewers than much
@weak bolt i do not expect perfect stream, but all the issues like low framerate slideshow just now is just absurd
then the audio issues before
Framerate issues could easily be ISP related, remember you're going from peoples homes now vs a commercial building
US is hardly known for reliable ISPs
slideshowwatch

surprised that blizzard got eaten
Gladiators tank line looks pretty weak when they can't run space on Dva
gg

damn dominated
Fuck mei
Did Seoul just dominate
Soe asking the questions, while she is muted 😄
Welcome to 3-0verwatch League
Seoul > sfs 

Not backing shock up
But
Allegedly they don’t have a warm up scrim yesterday
Didn’t
Its valiant
Theyre good but not shock good
Actually nvm
Im not sure shock is that good anymore
I think they are
still better than valiant tho
Just they didn’t have a good read on the meta
Theyre definitely still top 4
Or have the right players in for the meta
Yeah
Unlike NYXL
I’m going to be honest

Sinatraa Zarya was way too aggro yesterday
Sinatraa Zarya was the goats way
Also I’m 99% certain the Rascal rumors are real now
So it makes sense why the just seemed a little lost versus glads
Saya is supposed to retire :(((((
that's sad but I'm not too shocked
Rascal to where
Dallas
Bianca to Dallas too
Idk about season 2 but season 1
Imagine if he was on NYXL instead of pine

Omg
Also aKm retirement
Rascal on nyxl? Why
Idk man
Saya not rascal
Saya on a good team wouldve been good
Nyxl has good dps players
Saya prob burned out
Feel like 4 bans
Yeah
Is not enough
Gotta do like Overwatch, ban 6 Heroes
4 dps, 1 tanks and 1 support LOL
But nah, they won't
If hero bans wasn't a thing we would still see Mei
And WE STILL HAVE MEI
Hero pools fucked me over this week for dps
3 weeks since bans and still mei
Almost like she should get nerfed
Where is Widow? Where is Genji?
Where is Winston
I just hope all this Mei in OWL causes Blizzard to realise she needs adjusting
That was good
super gonna get boomed on rein by dreamer
Yet Mei still there, 3 fucking weeks
I'd rather have 3 weeks Winston than 3 weeks mei
I think if Shock runs Double they need Smurf Choi
Hero bans are weighted now, so more chance of mei bans
3 weeks
If they run Rein Zarya then Super Sinatraa
Heroes that have 3 weeks play time need to be auto banned excluding the hero bans
damn Super going superrrrrr agro
I just find double shield to be so boring to watch
shock outdated
sinatraa overrated
striker exterminated
super obliterated
choi incapacitated
viol2t humiliated
KSP emancipated
KSF liberated
Rain lubricated
GiG will not be sated
long have we waited
LA Valiant activated
Sin Genji!!
Maybe lowered it to try counter the issues they've been having
lol choi
shock is throwing
Why are they playing ball into brig/mei/mcree, didnt work yesterday either
im more concerned why they are running ball rein
yikes
yikes
Because Super doesn't know how to play any hero aside from Rein
the ball got picked so much
don't they have smurf? xd
Choi fed his full hp like 4x
ball may be able to play around those but not when all he gets is a rein
Yeah idk what Choi was doing
It seems their tank line is very shaky
I really dont get why he wouldn't just play dva if he's going to play a dive tank honestly. At least as dva he can help support rein
Piledriver then dies. "brb guys"
but they could have had smurf and super for orisa rein/sigma
DVA 4 sec booster kinda made her useless it seems, you don't see as many DVA now
choi literally feeding families there
uh ohhhh
i dont know why dva isnt being played
at least we got to see mcgravy dva
shock throwing
4 sec cd must have hurt her a lot
could just spend the entire time eating halts and blizzards
Literally anything would have been better than what Choi did last round as ball
idk, but im glad i didnt put anything into shock for my fantasy team
no super pog
good subs
im really guessing shock has 0 Mei players
This double shield comp is so boring, feels like only real way to play into it like this is to run the same comp
it is boring but they are playing to win so :/
yeah, Lucio back next week should help at least
weird feed by smurf
and why a genji
lol choi at 60%
at least striker is doing work
STRIKER TRACER 
Reaper/tracer looks far more valuable than Doomfist at least
woah 2 minutes
Striker Tracer... Is it still the best in the world?
Ah the good old set up at attacker spawn, my teams like to do that too
ahh the London strat
I’ve never seen a ball get so little value in OWL as in this match
lol Sinatraa why are you tbagging there
Tf is sinatraa tbag?
it’s always lame to tbag while you’re losing and finally win your first team fight
lmfaooo sinatraa
if it tilts lav it works
might as well try it
if not den u screw urself more
like tat haha
It’s not going to tilt anyone lol, any pro knows how to handle losing one team fight
That was lucky for shock lol. They had no good answer to pharah
Symmmm
Sinatraa?
think i might have to hang up another team skin
I mean he’s the one who spams hello in Zarya too
violet is an insane ana
It’s gaming who cares if they tbag
where else would tbags be a relevant thing
They can tbag if they want it’s just questioning what’s going through their mind lol
Idk why it’s on the rise
If it was after the c9 I guess that’s ok
The one after they finally won a team fight was lame
because sinatraa has a god complex
It’s hard not to have an ego
To be fair I think pharah is one of the easiest heroes to accidentally c9 with
its harder to lose an ego
After winning the season, being MVP and winning the World Cup within a few months
If you misjudge your shift then you can boost out of payload range and it’s too late
That’s three of the biggest accomplishments
I mean he could be worse
Have you guys seen the youtube chat?
No
no
Perhaps there is a curse, and championship winning teams always end up awful next season :p
I turn off all twitch and YouTube chat
I don’t pay attention to chat
It's pure cringe
always is
True
The best part of online matches is that chat is enabled
I have never seen anything valuable in twitch/YouTube chat useless it’s a chill stream with less people
Are there any good mei players potentially available if Shock do sell Rascal? Feel like it'd benefit them a lot atm
oh shit rascal playing...
Rascal just tried to play Lucio
Rascallion
This is the Shock I know
Smurf rein is interesting, wonder if language thing
oof
wow
Why the doom into double shield, that is my question of the day
the patch went in that equalises time
bruh why
meant to prevent really long matches
matches are already long but alright
I think purpose is to stop 10-8 2CP matches
i guess thats understandablw
but this is hybrid tho
i like the fact that valiant is playing double shield
c9 c9
AHaaahahah
Oh that's an f
sinatraa quick tbag
its a COVID-9
Oh wait
i want a cookie for predicting c9
clutch wall
Everyone tbag sinatraa
tbagged by his own wall
Choi-9
lol
lmfao
I want Choi to switch to ball again just because it’s funny at this point
why did violet go scoped in
This doom pick seems to be doing nothing
violet tryna be dps
they should do a LVP - least valuable player for each match
i think shock is just not respecting ksp enough
thats why violet is trying to kill him
Bro that was
so sad lol
Intense as fuck
damn
that was nervewracking
Shock throwing lmao
Oof
valiant deserved that
Put sinatraa on Zarya full time if going to play it, he's doing nothng as doom
WTF have I been watching the last few days?
CDH vs SHD? LAV vs SFS? ...
Full denial
what map next
Shock trying to 1up London is being awful after winning the title
Power rankings in shambles
PRARRIS
CDH at top of PRs
OH NO
is bliz ever gonna nerf mei again
hubris
paris nexxt
At this point, the teams that adapt best are going to be winners
its the same shit over and over
oh nuh
Paris, Fusion on top
the games are much closer then last years blow out or get rolled
seriously do the devs think mei is still balanced
Actually, SEO crushed GLA so...
Shock seem to suck without Lucio. Their aggression doesn't work
Bunker comp is the main strategy
Haven't seen Zarya Doomfist workout unless your enemy team is pepega
Architect tank
Pharah comps, imagine that
??????
wtaf is going on
Shock manipulating hero ban draws
we need 1 player 3 roles in 1 game
Coming soon, Super DPS
That's what they're doing
SEO d LAV 3-0. SEO d LAG 3-0. GLA d SFS 3-1. VAL d? SFS 3-1?
They manipulate the play time
super dps pepega
Kinda wanted to see Architect tank now
also viol2t fed his brains on the last fight
dumbass went on a highground flank for some reason and thew
how stupid is that play
he was focusing on ksp
last time sfs lost twice in a row was stage 1 last year
because his team didnt respect him
to LAG and Vancouver
in result he was destroying all of them
they had blizz
Shock was overconfident
viol2t just needed to live and build nano
but i have no idea why violet went for that zen
As usual
wait
that was sumb
Gets punished
SF seem to be struggling understanding this meta
ana builds nano faster through offensive nades and healing,
Makes sense having Sinatraa as tank, since his Zarya is high level
maybe he went for zen for some charge
yeah
4 dps, 1 tank and 1 support
was just about to say that
Where is that 222?
Oh? Rascal is back, as Bap
Thats what sfs is
sinatraa bouta get full charge alreadu
It's a bit harder to get a full charge in the comp that Valiant is running
imagine playing ana as dps
how many team fights do we miss for crap replays lol
just stop showing replays please
But you know what, these hero bans really say alot about teams
People thought Shock was flexible team, and that's right, but with the right hero bans and meta, you see their weakness
ACKKKK
more like being allergic to double shield
They're a long term team
poor uber
bleep
womp womp
mega oof
Maybe the teams that tried double shield didn't work out
🚬
Does nobody on SF play Mei? It's pretty clear she's meta
So they went Zarya Rein
ed
Did they fix anything about this map?
This is old patch
rolled
Not Overwatch patch
all of the dps except striker have played mei
honestly i think sfs need to just play sinatraa super, i feel like they have more synergy
but they don't like to play it
no u play double shield
nahhhh bruh
Shock is more like, not shock
Shock is trying to keep their old meta back by having Doomfist and Zarya
just play choi super
hah
Ball is such a feed its ridiculous
Whipshot away on piledriver feels bad man
double shield shuts down dive so no point in playing it
Shock boomed
anyone here in GM?
they put sinatraa on offtank but he can only play zarya at a pro level
Seems like SFS doesn't even have a good ball player.
yea
I have a rather stupid question
I have been saying for a while
Shock should sign Harbleu if they let go of Rascal

the most useful thing ball has done for shock all match. Sneak behind and get ticks
harb? 
ksp?
yet their not playing it
harb is a great ball player
Harbleu is fun to watch
get ball OW
lol
1 upping ameng
SINATRAA REIN
XD
BRUHHHHHHHH
Mystery heroes you can't out a dps on tank role
Shock sandbagging until playoffs
epic gamer time
Zarya in 222 is not Zarya in goats
they are so lost rn
oof smurf
I like how the casters said shock is stopping with the experimenting this match and going to their roots
super throwing
Get yourself into the losers bracket straight away, winning strat
hugeeeeee slams
The "It's so stupid it just might work" strategy?
2cp
catching them off guard

sfs was running out ideas
wow damn
Dreamer going on ball “there’s no way I can do worse than shock”
shock have ult adv
bro they have no idea how to pplay this meta
close
smurf trying to sneak capture so bad
How did this team go 26-2 or whatever in 2019? :?
lol
Because of GOATS
GOATS ruined everything
goats
Shock seem boomed without a lucio, it really trashes their aggressive style
tru
I suppose same way SHD went 7-0 in 2019-S3 and BOS went 10-0 in 2018-S2.
XD
they are playing dive dps with bunker tanks
Gravy playing Zarya just to show how worthless she is against double shield
Dive Reinhardt 😄
He threw on purpose
charging off cooldown
binding charge to right click
Good guy mcgravy
striker throw
SF seem to not understand how stuns work today
shock seem boomed
yikes
this is sad
thats a draw or better for LAV
Shock is gonna have to rethink their whole strategy
so they put their goats players on therir goats roles
custa will feel 10000IQ
and they lost
Whole strats change each week with hero bans though

yeah it seems they missread the meta
sign Harbleu
if Orisa/Brig banned this week, and Lucio back, they could dominate next week
free chipsa
ChipSa will play soon, confirmed by coach
Actually, since Zarya and Rein has been played a lot this weekend, they are a contender to get banned, right?
i think its between rein and orisa
At start of the day, all tanks but roadhog were above 10%
Ball feed again
And Sinatraa
sinatraa thrwe
wow
Seems like Sinatraa is forgetting that he isn't being healed by 3 healers
lmao. sickest nade trick shots but loses the team fight anyways
JEEZ
Sin got halted/rocked, not much can do about that
first time in a year and a month
shocking
what we take out of this is taht the only round they did anything is when sinatraa was on reinm
they could have not played ball that way. Or at all
So are they doing the hero ban today?
Shock sandbagging to get into grand final losers bracket straight away this year
yea i think so
lmao
they had scrim bucks
@weak bolt if they wanted to get into losers bracket they could just throw the first match
sf trying to play in the play-ins to get to double elim brackets
sandbagging
can't reveal your strats if you don't know them yourself
just like NYXL
Curious how Titans will go now too
those were the days when la valiant was predicted to finish 19th
did something happen why r there so many dislikes

Oh fuck me what is happening to shock
Hero pools are gonna make finals weird. Not sure I like the idea of that
Hero pools arent in finals
arnt there no hero pools
ah ok
no hero pools in playoffs
basically just practice the meta and skate into playoffs and u good XD
guys
super benched
but playing rascal today makes me wonder if hes truly getting traded
what happened to shanghai on their match against chengdu
cause u usualyl dont play a player after u make the move or are pretty much going to make the move
like whats up with them
ameng slammed his magnum dong on the table
Chinese teams win trading to make sure no one goes winless
True @obsidian kayak
Cursed
thats cheating tho
sf outside of playoffs
pepelaugh
and thats communism..
very cursed images
atlanta looking really good to win it
so in theory seoul is better than shock
wow
Not sure we can rule out shock going on a 20 game win streak though haha. Hero pools are gonna make it so unpredictable
it was a 3-0
to seoul
seoul vs lag happened earlier
Any Season 1erd?
sad
lmao never thaughht i would see seoul in first
Truly a dynasty
A Pacific East team out of Pacific East is smurfing
sfs swapped to many players and didn't know the meta
Shock just need to pick their 6 and press w
They need to not have 4 dps players in tf
dang the vod isn't up yet
hope they recover and do shock things again
okay thanks ill look for that
I worked it out
Seoul>glads>sfs 
Sin is playing Rein
in preparation for Echo
Have your dps play everything, then they can be great at Echo
thats big brain
i think they should ban all of them from playing ball it was tragic to watch
KITTY
valiant or glad\
that’s big brain errrorr
ahaha pajamas
I called it like 5 hours ago
scuffed
the outside tickets will be chosen
rein banned again lul


