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raw ermine
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lmao

balmy wolf
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Hey man it's not easy being a support main

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7 heroes and then blizzard decides it's totally fine banning two of them while the one with 16 loses one of the least used heroes ever

raw summit
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online owl not happening today?

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i mean this weekend

cloud latch
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nope

stark cove
brisk canyon
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Did they

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@cloud latch

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Just

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Cancel

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This weekend... too

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?

cloud latch
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ye

feral wing
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what are the odds that this season just gets cancelled entirely

lilac atlas
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none

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they'll find a way but its a bummer to have another weekend without games

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you have to keep in mind that they are rapidly changing everything from homestands to purely online play

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it sucks a lot to see this happened but eventually it will hopefully work out

hidden vault
worn falcon
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*as streamer

lilac atlas
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that would be crazy if he joined as a player

brisk canyon
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Rank OWL teams

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@lilac atlas you’re the pro here

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Can u help me rank pro teams

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Best to worse

lilac atlas
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Lol am I the pro tho?

balmy wolf
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@brisk canyon i can give u a top 5 of right now?

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and bottom 5 ^

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would be very debatable tho

brisk canyon
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@lilac atlas yep

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I believe u

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Top 5 and bottom 5 in order of best or worse

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@lilac atlas yes

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@balmy wolf

lilac atlas
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i'll toss my rankings in here after im done with something

brisk canyon
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Ok

balmy wolf
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does it have to be in order

brisk canyon
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Nah

balmy wolf
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ok

brisk canyon
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Just top 5 best teams

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And bottom 5

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But make it in order like the worse team is on the bottom so I know

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Which one is worse or better

balmy wolf
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1 - 5: shock, philly, nyxl, paris, atlanta

16 - 20: florida, Toronto, Houston, dallas, boston

brisk canyon
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Yesss

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@balmy wolf shocks on top

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Thanks brother

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I love u

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Boston is a joke this season NGL

balmy wolf
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yeh

brisk canyon
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@lilac atlas oop?

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I saw u posted

short sparrow
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Dallas < Houston?

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I wonder...

sullen berry
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Tell me something new today

balmy wolf
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I am wondering something

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Will they continue with overwatch league on OW2

brisk canyon
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how much are teams getting

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for winning stage finals?

hot heart
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Stages dont exist anymore @brisk canyon

brisk canyon
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@hot heart last year

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i mean

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also @hot heart please inject yourself into my bloodstream

supple prism
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who are Dragons tanks that they will be playing the most?

balmy wolf
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Will they continue with overwatch league on OW2

supple prism
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yes

hidden vault
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Stand1 and Void

hot heart
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Sure man @brisk canyon

brisk canyon
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xd

hot heart
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Void is a good d.va from what i remember of him

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I knoe nothing of stand1 tho which is worrying

supple prism
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i have others saying fearless void

hidden vault
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Why not stand1?

supple prism
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Idk

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But i need to swap out ellivote for someone better

hidden vault
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Who do you suggest justice pick up then?

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And lol no one predicted geguri

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Sadz

sullen berry
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@supple prism ahh now this is a refreshing question!

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@hot heart if you know next to nothing like I do, watch all the VODs you can. His most recent performance at the Shanghai masters may have been broadcasted in Chinese but it takes common sense to gauge if he is any good or not by watching it

hot heart
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I actually forgot about that entirely

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Thanks @sullen berry

sullen berry
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it's such a good read on the teams, as old as it is

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Charge with Cr0ng instead of hotba will take time to synergize, he's a different off-tank to what hotba delivered

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Leave proved he is going to go nuts on Hangzhou and Shanghai and test the veterans who have been doing well already on hitscan

swift moth
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when is next match

feral wing
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next week

swift moth
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:(

balmy wolf
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Why is the OWL not hosting matches today? They don’t need to worry about Coronavirus if they’re all playing from home, right?

sullen berry
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These were still meant to play out online, it's due to LA's strict laws around it

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For the overall safety and well-being of our players, teams and staffs, and in alignment with California’s statewide ‘stay at home’ order, we are canceling this weekend’s scheduled Overwatch League competition.
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gonna message my extended family over in LA

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because that sounds awful

raw ermine
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This trivia is confusing

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what defines "played"?

sullen berry
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"play for" is a better way to describe what they're saying

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could have been how many players have ATL Academy were promoted to play for the Atlanta Reign?

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my biggest problem is making it a poll

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because you're getting a majority answer

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and some answers stretching to say dogman counts and would make that five players

raw ermine
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Funnyastro technically played, but for 1 game as a 2 way

brisk canyon
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OWL GONNA BE LIT

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Next week!!!

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@raw ermine also eww

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Go shock

raw ermine
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You dislike defiant?

raw ermine
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||Kodak, Sharp, Masaa||

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answer above

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YES

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FINALLY

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OWL ACTION

karmic grotto
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FINALLY

raw ermine
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Profit Echo?

karmic grotto
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Finally something happening

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They should have done this instead of cancelling the matches

raw ermine
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are seoul in San Fran or Shock in Seoul?

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if not, that's a long distance match

karmic grotto
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They should be in NA

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because the match afterwards is valiant vs gladiators

rare magnet
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they playing two OWL Echo PTR exhibition matches tomorrow Shock VS Seoul and Val VS Glads

tawny sigil
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so are they scrapping home games entirely and just getting everyone to go to LA?

upper niche
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No.

sullen berry
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@tawny sigil they posted this two days ago, don’t know how you got the idea they needed to return to LA

For the overall safety and well-being of our players, teams and staffs, and in alignment with California’s statewide ‘stay at home’ order, we are canceling this weekend’s scheduled Overwatch League competition.
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So yes it can be done despite the order

tawny sigil
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that's not really related to my question but ok

sullen berry
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So long as they have slapped on the home stands in the current schedule

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They will continue

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Historically it looks like they could also get cancelled in favour of online matches within 24 hours

tawny sigil
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they jsut need to give up on that, travel ban are in place all over the world and that's not gonna be removed in 2 weeks

sullen berry
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Let alone 3 months

upper niche
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If ANY kind of activities are to happen across a lot of sports and events before the end of May I'd be seriously surprised, unless it's a very reckless government.

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Just because it isn't MERS doesn't mean things should open.

sullen berry
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If we got less to no movement from the virus by June, in select countries, wouldn't that make them idea travel destinations?

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Sure the numbers proportionally aren't that high

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But if China can go claim the numbers infected have decreased and they can't explain why apart from the obvious measures they have done

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Those games in Pacific East might be salvageable in their last month of homestands

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That'd be wishful thinking mind you, doubt it could happen

upper niche
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Huh? How do you figure? You're assuming they will even let you in if you're from a country who sees a continued outbreak, and the travel industry has resumed any ability to get to those places.

sullen berry
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I'd love to see sign of China at a breaking point because so much trade they're dependent on is international for a start

sullen berry
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How they would go about accepting overseas travellers will be divisive at worst, but ideal for business once they have laid out their conditions of travel that doesn't cause risk of spread

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As this article brings up, travel to china is actually resuming in small sizes from San Fran. to assess passengers prior to leaving

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SAN FRANCISCO - March 17, 2020 – Several airlines based in China have announced plans to resume limited flights to and from San Francisco International Airport (SFO). The schedule, subject to change, is as follows:
Wed 18/03 one-off daily flights to Shanghai
... 
Sun 29/03 one-off to Guangzhou 4 times per week
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Now that does factor in the requirements to declare enhanced entry screening

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and the standard self-quarantine for 14 days once they return to the US.

hot heart
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I feel bad for italy

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Full lockdown in less than 2 weeks

sullen berry
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I'll take "Where is bumper?" for 100 OWL Tokens

short sparrow
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How about Tizi?

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He seems more consistent

sullen berry
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actually

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I'm more inclined to believe TiZi still hasn't left OWL yet

short sparrow
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Wdym

sullen berry
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if he joins Lucky Future

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how many teams would that be for TiZi

tropic herald
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That would be his 9th team

raw ermine
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tizi seems like a nice guy idk why he is being thrown around teams so much

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good player too

tropic herald
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He deserves to be OWL just no opportunities

hidden vault
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it's sad that the Titians didn't work out for him

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it seemed that it was the best team for him

sullen berry
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@short sparrow

raw ermine
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ahahahahaha

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nice guess

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oh wait

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it mentioned vancouver

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nvm

short sparrow
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xP

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It was 50% 50%

raw ermine
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Bumper kinda just disappeared tho it feels like

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And that scares me

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Has he streamed?

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Or is he in uni

tropic herald
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he streams

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allegedly he dropped to masters

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though might be like arrge

raw ermine
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yikes

crisp hemlock
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oof

raw ermine
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||Kyb-British
Nero-USA
Eileen-China
Rio- Korean||

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||Neptuno-Spain||

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||True||

tropic herald
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True

sullen berry
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fuck it, go 6 and have a non-native korean

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which is what I considered bischu before he returned to gladiators

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hope to see him at the showmatch to rep the battle of LA showmatch today

short sparrow
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@raw ermine False, it's 6. Fragi - Finland :)

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He played like, 13 seconds

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But he did

raw ermine
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hm

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I thought of it as at least 5

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but you're right

short sparrow
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Though Neptuno hasn't yet

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Sooooo

raw ermine
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he played in the Shanghai masters tourney

short sparrow
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Yeah true

raw ermine
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I think the answer depends on the wording

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they say "have had players from 5 different nationalities play for them"

tropic herald
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Play for

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That means they have played

sullen berry
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@short sparrow now the tricky thing here is such a good example of how vague it gets for the community

tropic herald
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Neptuno hasn’t

sullen berry
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emphasis on "had" played

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they started out with 4 nationalities

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and you would consider bischu one of 2 US natives

short sparrow
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Added Fragi for 5

sullen berry
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yup, neptuno didn't need to be considered

short sparrow
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And now Neptuno for 6. Does Shanghai Masters count?

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Ah, yeah its true

sullen berry
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honestly?

short sparrow
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Its at least 5 effectively

sullen berry
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I think it's a shame how Tier 2 presence and showmatches are generating so little attention to the league

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most of this is either in fear or doubt that they might actually be better at times in production or engagement if they advertised it

short sparrow
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Hurricane vs SMC was great 😊

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Also

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That's Sugarfree, Saucy, Pika, Daans and Carcar without team

sullen berry
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well there goes another high performing team turned to ashes

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I wouldn't be so sure that they haven't got other plans

short sparrow
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Of course

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But for now

sullen berry
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we wait

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tropic herald
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All those players are good

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They should get picked up

next mesa
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.

karmic grotto
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The good players are promoted to Reign so... and othersto Fusion

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perfact to kr+

sullen berry
raw ermine
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time to go!

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ooh

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ANS

elder quarry
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what is that volume on the stream, cant hear shit

sullen berry
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creative on check

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volume is not good

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but to be fair

raw ermine
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no moth?

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hm

sullen berry
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it's easier to distort with Uber shouts

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Rascal v Profit

raw ermine
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lul rascal is a rascal

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profit rein

karmic grotto
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shock trying harder than dynasty lmao

raw ermine
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Uber is a lion statue

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AHAHA

raw summit
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this is like scrimms

karmic grotto
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shock is tryharding for no reason

brisk canyon
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@karmic grotto

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Good for them

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Shock’s gonna rekt everyone

karmic grotto
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Doubt

raw ermine
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Profit throwing

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lul

brisk canyon
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@karmic grotto who do u support?

raw summit
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i think echo will make owl very interesting

karmic grotto
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Why?

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Doesn't matter

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Shock is trying harder than Dynasty, Dynasty are throwing hard lol

sullen berry
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Showmatch predictions
Trophy1 Shock 2-0
Trophy2 Seoul 1-1
Trophy3 Gladiators 1-1 / Valiant 1-1

karmic grotto
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If you really want to know, I support Reign

raw summit
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but i like this chill version of owl

raw ermine
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omg

raw summit
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okay

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thats just showing off

raw ermine
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flex dps's throwing

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confirmed

raw summit
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i cant tell if seoul is bad or sf is intense tryharding

cloud latch
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hopefully seoul isn't trying

raw ermine
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they are playing orisa-hog

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they have marvel on off tank

brisk canyon
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Seoul getting rolled

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Sad to watch

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@Levi#7686 😂

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@Levi#7686

raw ermine
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of course they aren't

brisk canyon
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😂😂

raw summit
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PepeHands Levi

brisk canyon
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@karmic grotto dynasty pretend “not to try” cuz they’d die anyway

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It doesn’t matter if they try or not

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They’re gonna get rekt

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Even if they’d try the results are gonna be the same

rare magnet
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these guys are gonna learn to hit the stickies perfectly most of the times and its gonna be silly

sullen berry
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lmaoo

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sinatraa

karmic grotto
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@brisk canyon Keep telling that to yourself Shock fanboy

brisk canyon
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@karmic grotto yeah I do, and I’m right

karmic grotto
brisk canyon
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You got anything to show for it?

sullen berry
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smug

karmic grotto
brisk canyon
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:)) that’s what I thought

sullen berry
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adriel and his dependence on pepe emotes to live

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ideal lifestyle

raw ermine
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lmaoo

brisk canyon
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You’re probably some Boston fanboy who doesn’t wanna show for it

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😂

sullen berry
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pepega potg

worn falcon
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almost 3 sticky bomb as echo

rare magnet
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cmon seoul just one map plz

raw ermine
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you could see sinatraa notice the tracer for the first time and hunt down profit for the duplicate

calm holly
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Yep

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He wanted it

raw summit
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theres no way you can play echo with tracer

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its so broken

karmic grotto
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It needs a nerf

rare magnet
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maybe they should make so u can have like max 3 ults

raw summit
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dude you ult with 1 clip

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@rare magnet np

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no*

karmic grotto
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Would be funny if Shock actually played vs Dragons

cloud latch
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imagine an insane tracer player gets 3 sticks as echo

frozen perch
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oh god
is echo going to create a roadhog orisa meta again? D:

karmic grotto
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Or a goats meta

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If you are big brain

raw summit
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you cant say

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anything can happen at ptr now

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so no reason speculating about meta

brisk canyon
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Seoul’s outmatched and outplayed

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Oh well they tried ReinhardtSmile

midnight sage
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Can Echo Duplicate Echo?

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Echoception?

cloud latch
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no

midnight sage
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Five Duplicates deep

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lmao

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I wonder how much that broke the game when they were creating the hero

sullen berry
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i see potential in fits

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he held back, or forgot he could hold it

raw summit
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dps players would have to learn tank

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tank queue should get a little easy for a while

brisk canyon
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HAHA

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this is entertaining

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The steamroll

midnight sage
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Mayhem Echo

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Duplicated Hero gets ult in 2 seconds

sullen berry
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match point already nice

raw summit
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echo is game changing

sullen berry
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it's only been 32 mins in game match time

raw summit
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like it makes the matches so intense

brisk canyon
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😂😂😂😂

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@karmic grotto 😂😂😂😂

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Oh mannnn

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not trying ReinhardtSmile

karmic grotto
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Why are you pinging me? I understand you're a Shock fanboy, but tone it down. Shock is trying so hard while Dynasty are not.

brisk canyon
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Try hard? ReinhardtSmile

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U got nothing else to say do u?

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They switch players every match more than Seoul so don’t even say

midnight sage
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They just randomly ping people

sullen berry
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Adriel is always here for matches

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@brisk canyon just don't need to ping neccessarily

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we're here for you

midnight sage
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It is annoying as hell

brisk canyon
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Sorry I couldn’t contain it SoldierSweat ReinhardtSmile

sullen berry
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@midnight sage indeed it is

brisk canyon
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So very satisfying

sullen berry
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but you might as well get used to it in a community server

brisk canyon
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Indeed

midnight sage
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No need to randomly ping people

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THey've literally pinged me for no reason

rare magnet
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what hero is wid

raw ermine
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15 min?

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yikes

midnight sage
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HOLY VOLUME

raw summit
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my ears dude

sullen berry
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NA Production at it's finest today

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at least the game didn't break

raw summit
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tbh it isnt bad considering what theyre doing

sullen berry
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it went from tiny volume slider on YT to 100 on system

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now it's 22 on system volume, max on YT

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lmfao

raw summit
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yeah the sound was a problem but the stream overall was fine

karmic grotto
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That OWL music lol, but at least the production is stable

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Man, I wish they played for real before 28th of March

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On a Friday you know, as last year

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The usual schedule

sullen berry
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I gotta give credit with any smaller scale production

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Uber has done a formiddable job here

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but as a streamer himself I have higher standards of him

brisk canyon
karmic grotto
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I agree. Nobody would mind casting home, or... in a studio for a while

brisk canyon
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Uber

karmic grotto
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As long as they get to see their teams playing

brisk canyon
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Uber pog

sullen berry
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Uber with the wholesome messages like "look after those close to you, get in touch with them... don't always want to be indoors"

brisk canyon
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Uber with the wholesome messages like "look after those close to you, get in touch with them... don't always want to be indoors"
@sullen berry

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Nice

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Doesn’t he have the NJL?

sullen berry
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the what

brisk canyon
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Or does Uber just cast for this

sullen berry
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we've got time

brisk canyon
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It means does he cast for OWL

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I

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Or

sullen berry
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can you explain what is an NJL

brisk canyon
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Just this

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Idk what it stands for

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xD but it means like

nimble dagger
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Owl viewing party any one

brisk canyon
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Pro casters for big games

sullen berry
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yeah him and Uber X have been at this for 3 years now

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4 years if you count the inaugural Overwatch World Cup

brisk canyon
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Ohhh

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When’s next World Cup

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I’m excited for WC!

nimble dagger
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September

brisk canyon
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Nice

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Dudeee

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WC dope

sullen berry
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it's not really looking like they want to do it again

brisk canyon
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US gonna take it home

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Why?

sullen berry
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needs more local support

brisk canyon
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WHAT

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but...

sullen berry
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like i said

brisk canyon
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:((

sullen berry
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it's too expensive to host all the cities that want to participate

brisk canyon
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Oh

sullen berry
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and it doesn't generate the revenue activision blizzard want to see in a global event

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think about it

brisk canyon
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:((

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So no WC?

sullen berry
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I want to see Australia vs New Zealand duke it out again

brisk canyon
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:((

sullen berry
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you should rewatch the world cup from last year

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from the beginning

nimble dagger
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Space space space

sullen berry
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it was a 3 day affair where teams had to be funded by their respective countries

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the top 10 didn't need to do all that

brisk canyon
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Oh

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I still want OWWD

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OWWC

sullen berry
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so even if you were a smaller nation who plays overwatch like thailand

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you know

brisk canyon
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:((

sullen berry
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where Mickie is from

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they had a full team ready and arrived at Blizzcon

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but one of their players had visa issues at the border, these things happen

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and they couldn't participate

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giving the team they were against a bye into the next round

karmic grotto
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Online WC

sullen berry
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smh why didn't they do it in the first place /s

karmic grotto
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So many teams that could have participated

sullen berry
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they wanted to eliminate hosting group stages? why not do regionals instead?

karmic grotto
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And the winners from those brackets, could be then promoted to have hotels and play in that blizzard arena thing

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Instead of giving 10 teams auto paid services

rare magnet
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"and we got to play fantastically loud break music"

sullen berry
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omg chat

raw ermine
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Bird

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newest LAG player

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Bird

sullen berry
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coo

karmic grotto
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LOL

raw ermine
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that is so funny to me idk why

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wait

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I just realised the positions

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lmao

sullen berry
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torb 1v1

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straight out of /r/Overwatch

raw ermine
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excellent

worn falcon
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the fuck is this cesspool lol

sullen berry
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it's a reference to reddit that starting round

midnight sage
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lol game chat

sullen berry
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Valiant: Hey guys I think we're gonna throw this game, it's just an exhibition match

midnight sage
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We need more game chat in OWL

sullen berry
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Vietnamese pride right there

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birdring's echo lucio is dope

brisk canyon
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GO LA!

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@sullen berry I’m vietnamese

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0:

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R u Vietnamese?

sullen berry
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don't be silly - I'm only half vietnamese

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🇻🇳

brisk canyon
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Oh lol

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I ease born and raised

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Was*

midnight sage
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lmao biggoose

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tOxIc cHaT

worn falcon
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i live for this banter

midnight sage
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we need it in official matches please

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OOF

fervent scaffold
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Bird playing echo. seems legit

rare magnet
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owl skins

brisk canyon
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KSF toxic

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At end of chat

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Of game

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😂

rare magnet
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paris maybe

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talk its so lonely here

brisk canyon
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JARU

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toxic

raw ermine
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rip dpei

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some dude just asked if this is ptr in the chat

midnight sage
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lmao shatter that body

raw ermine
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o damn

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the coaches coming to fight

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dpei zarya

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ALERT ALERT

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GOATS VARIANT DETECTED

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BEEP

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BEEP
BEEP

sullen berry
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this needs to happen more

raw ermine
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that grav lul

sullen berry
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oooh that audio sync out

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now this is making scrims/showmatches more exciting

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I just realised that role lock is not enforced

green stump
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5 dps

raw ermine
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birdring on mercy

sullen berry
#

KSP delet

raw ermine
#

excellent

sullen berry
#

any time echo is able to clutch it out with a duplicate:

raw ermine
#

box???

sullen berry
#

called it

karmic grotto
#

5 dps

#

Best meta

#

Against goats

#

Lmao, echo goats

worn falcon
#

those players are gonna trash talk their coaches for days tracerkek

sullen berry
#

if you had to rate how well this played out online, rate it below

#

1 for worse than homestands, 5 for would watch again and better than traditional homestands

karmic grotto
#

I still want scrimmed matches of high level play

sullen berry
#

but would anyone take something like a showmatch seriously, even if it was called a scrim

#

70k damage blocked - ATL vs GZC when they broke their 0-4 stage 2 losing streak with the phattest scoreboard

karmic grotto
#

Nice

sullen berry
karmic grotto
#

No wonder

#

Goats

#

Freaking until 8 point maps

#

Wtf

#

No wonder you get 70k damage blocked

modern seal
#

I have a question

#

Is it normal for a team (Low gold) to start replaying games and asking players what they were thinking when doing specific things in game?

#

Or at that rank is it too early?

supple prism
#

Its never too early

modern seal
#

I think im just overthinking it really

#

We just got out of a game and a member of our team started streaming his discord on a reply of one of our games and hes pointing out where we went wrong

#

Me and my gf just joined for a bit of fun really

raw ermine
#

If you want to improve then you should if you feel it's helpful

uneven wren
#

any rank it's good to see what went right or wrong

modern seal
#

Fair enough

#

I think it was just a shock to us that he did it, as we really were just playing for fun and didnt expect him to go all critical on us

solemn magnet
#

Will we be able to get Owl tokens from watching the games on youtube?

sullen berry
#

hang on

#

!!owl2020

young fractalBOT
sullen berry
#

ah no it's not there

#

short answer: ||no, until they have an update on this||

solemn magnet
#

Dang

raw ermine
#

Here's my own OWL trivia

#

Which players have an all time record of 2 points of healing in their OWL career? (hint: Their are 2)

#

Answer:

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||Rio and Gator||

wise roost
#

Best team: PhiladelphiaFusion

#

Change my mind

pearl wing
#

can't because it's true

supple prism
#

Shock is still the best

tall prism
#

Just my opinion but I like the Titans

weary violet
#

Hello!

humble hollow
#

NewYorkExcelsior best team by far

tropic herald
#

NA contenders PogChimp

hot heart
#

Fucking dead

karmic grotto
#

Contenders went from LAN matches to LAN finals

worthy anvil
#

so is shock not playing anymore on the 28th?

#

and if they are will i be able to watch it live?

worn falcon
#

jesus

#

Im ready for those being cancelled

grizzled mango
#

Hopefully we get at least half of them

karmic grotto
#

Why should they be cancellled?

#

They can perfectly do their job from home, but man

#

That schedule is hard

#

never had so many games before

feral wing
#

they cant perfectly do their job from home

#

they can try to do it

karmic grotto
#

You know I don't mean that literally?

feral wing
#

ok

celest spear
#

PauseChamp

brisk canyon
#

Whose gonna win

#

Shock

#

Or both LA’s?

karmic grotto
#

what the heck

#

Week 9

#

FULL OF MATCHES

#

oh God

#

Week 8 till 13

#

MATCHESSSS

raw ermine
#

He has been overcome by the youtube comment section

warm venture
#

Does the OWL have a badguy/villian? A figure like Leffen, Hungrybox, somebody like that?

brisk canyon
#

@warm venture yes

#

Outlaws

#

They’re pretty hated

warm venture
#

Why?

brisk canyon
#

They suck

#

And they feed

#

If you’re a fan for outlaws it’s waste

#

They “get good” for a few matches

#

Cuz of hero pools

#

And then disappoint their fans

#

Who had their hopes up

#

It’s like a sugar rush and then crash

#

Boston on the other hand

#

Had no hope so

#

They’re more just the bad team

warm venture
#

That's not what I'm looking for. I'm looking for a legit threat.

brisk canyon
#

😂

#

Wdym by threat

#

?

#

Like most likely to win

#

?

warm venture
#

If they just suck then that's not good villiany. I want evil and dangerous.

brisk canyon
#

San Francisco shock talks a lot of trash

#

But they’re good

#

So I guess?

warm venture
#

I'm a badguy, and I want somebody to idolize and base my play off of. I need that.

brisk canyon
#

But they’re my favorite team so

#

Lol

#

Fusions is really good too

#

Except they lost against a mediocre team once this season

warm venture
#

Being nice and social and soft isn't working for me in this game. So I want some mean ass toxic mofo to model after, but he's gotta win too.

brisk canyon
#

Shock talks a lot of trash

#

And they got toxic players

#

Who called the other team sloppy and trash to boost their morale

#

But they’re also the best players in the world rn

warm venture
#

I like it.

brisk canyon
#

😂

sullen berry
#

OW League schedule so good

#

If they did this many games next year each weekend

#

It’d be a 48 hour festival every weekend with at most 8 hours break in between

karmic grotto
#

This was kinda the original schedule like schedule

#

It begins in week 9

#

Friday till Monday for me

sullen berry
#

A full weekend worth of games in one day mate, that’s the dream

karmic grotto
#

Heck yeah

#

Having 4 games is too low

#

But 16?

sullen berry
#

Shame the viewership isn’t expected to grow a whole lot

karmic grotto
#

They need the tokens

sullen berry
#

But that’s blizzard logic to defy expectations

karmic grotto
#

You can potentially earn so many tokens and sprays

#

But it isn't there

#

Why?

#

Shouldn't the tech be simple
?

#

It's freaking Google

#

We're almost 2 months since February and still no tokens

sullen berry
#

They have the battle.net connection, a shock Zarya skin to release, small indie company that had to patch YouTube into the OWL app first two weeks into the season

karmic grotto
sullen berry
#

I’m not complaining about the development

karmic grotto
#

Development is great

#

But these stuff

sullen berry
#

Mmm

karmic grotto
#

What the hell did they do with the buy in money?

#

Activision Blizzard be: Activision

sullen berry
#

A before B

#

Activision comes first before the Blizzard part

karmic grotto
#

All the money they could have invested, but instead, they are greedy

sullen berry
#

The mindset would probably be the need to reinvest what’s needed to operate

karmic grotto
#

If they were not greedy...

sullen berry
#

And that’s still heaps of money they need to manage properly

karmic grotto
#

What do you mean with that

sullen berry
#

Human Resources in any job does not come cheap

#

So if staff, spectators, analyst, caster all get a cut for reasonably good play

karmic grotto
#

True

sullen berry
#

On top of players who get their stage and season prize money

#

To this day

#

The outlaws still aren’t getting for their stage 3 performance last year

#

There’s a reason why the OWL prize pool isn’t even close to 10m

karmic grotto
#

I think that was old news, they were paid, or at least, one of the coaches was paid...

#

Prize pool of 1.5 million

#

That's ridiculously low

#

For an esports that brands itself as a true league

sullen berry
#

Even if it was paid, you gotta beat this mindset to the ground that players aren’t getting paid for their work, the turnover is high and the stuff that happened with sposnsorship behind the scenes is what hold it back from larger investments

karmic grotto
#

And that's something that irritates me

#

Big major sponsors, you need those

#

But how can you grow if you're not letting the teams have their custom sponsors?

#

I believe there are events, esports where sponsors take part in the prize pool

#

Owl is fun and stuff, but it's on the edge of dying and succeeding

#

The homestand thing is awesome

#

Big points for that

supple prism
#

i dont see it as on the edge of dying

karmic grotto
#

Well, see it like this: it either works, or it doesn't

#

Or, third, alternative: change it

brisk canyon
#

It will work

#

It has to

#

OWL won’t die

#

OWL generated billions more revenue

#

Since it’s opening

#

This year introducing hero pools

#

Made it much much better too

raw ermine
#

this video is 1 big meme

karmic grotto
#

Owl didn't generate billions of revenue, that's fake news

#

And this is with sold team spots, advertisements and broadcasting rights

#

It sure is more in 2020, but not billions. The most revenue was made in 2018

#

2019 had additional teams, then switched in 2020 to YT

#

I would estimate that on 250 million (average of 6 extra teams) + 150 million YT contract = 400 million + (X amount of advertisement)

#

As of now there no recent articles of 2019 and 2020, I wonder why

sullen berry
#

Was there any other article backing up this claim back in 2018?

#

I’d have the feeling the industry would be at a billion, but least of all OW League which the article tries its hardest to validate

karmic grotto
#

I still find it... sketchy

#

1 billion revenue

sullen berry
#

Yeah this one went a little lower but high enough for lazy billionaires to round it up

#

They did the math based on the theoretical maximum ticket sales they could achieve which was hilarious

#

If every game still had attendance due to season passes at blizz arena or something

#

They can’t have made more than $500k in tickets. Hardly anyone would pay to watch those matches with middle of the pack teams

#

Back then that was something like Fusion, Boston Uprising and the Danteh/babybay show that made up San Francisco Shock

#

Who on earth wanted to watch Boston upset against London or Shock get smouldered back then against Dallas and Houston?

hidden vault
#

But what's the profit??

karmic grotto
#

long term investing

#

That's what they do

#

We did have an article that Shock was making profit

#

Or almost profit

tropic herald
#

Round 2?

raw ermine
#

plot twist:

#

Boston signs him

karmic grotto
#

Hmm

#

HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM

balmy wolf
#

Is the new SF shock skin for Sinatraa or for the team as a whole

tropic herald
#

Championship skin

balmy wolf
#

Oh ok pog

trail lodge
#

it'll be the same as last year

#

With 1 of the heros getting a special OWL skin

#

and Sinatraas is Zarya

tropic herald
#

I’m assuming it’ll be a hero that defined OWL2019

#

So something from GOATs that isn’t Zarya

#

It’s Doomfist

supple prism
#

wait, why is it a doomfist skin?

balmy wolf
#

Oh God it looks ugly af

#

I change my mind I'm not getting that

#

But the Zarya skin tho

#

When is it coming

worn falcon
#

this is the championship skin, we'll gotta wait for the MVP skin

worn falcon
#

Theyre doing a premiere for THAT skin

#

LOL

raw ermine
#

the gauntlet I somehow missed in the pictures

#

its soooo cool

worn falcon
#

the SF

raw ermine
#

yeah

#

that's sick

brisk canyon
#

Bruh

#

SF Shock too OP

#

Watch out fusions

#

U noobs

feral wing
#

such a bad championship skin

tropic herald
#

Fuck it good pickup

#

People looked at it and assumed it’s bad

#

But looking at the skin for real

#

It’s got so much detailing

#

And thought behind it

tame kite
#

In my opinion, the skin has a ton of details, i like it

grizzled mango
#

Most owl special skins have great details

brisk canyon
#

@feral wing I like the profile pic, mind dm me over?

raw ermine
#

more OWL trivia

#

what is the most common comp in season 1 and 2?

#

Name all 6 characters

#

Answer:

#

inaugural:
||Winston,DVa,Genji,Tracer,Mercy,Zen||

#

season 2:
||Rein,Zarya,Dva,Brigitte,Zen,Lucio||

short sparrow
#

Inaugural: Winston, Dva, Tracer, Widowmaker, Mercy, Zen?

#

Season 2: Rein, Dva, Zarya, Brig, Lucio, Zen?

raw ermine
#

Season 2 yeah

short sparrow
#

oh 😦

#

screw genji

raw ermine
#

very close

short sparrow
#

xD

raw ermine
#

I debated this in my head a while back

#

and was deciding between your comp and the actual

tropic herald
#

This is the man that’s supposedly carrying Paris to greatness

karmic grotto
#

Well, he's still a kid though

solemn magnet
#

I dont get why people dont like the Df skin

#

I love it

#

It's pretty cool

timid phoenix
#

^^^ it looks amazing

raw ermine
#

IK!

#

Sp9rk1e is hilarious

#

was that the clip with him and myunbong in the lijang arena?

worthy anvil
#

Thunder looks amazing

#

Can anyone tell me when shock is playing next?

tropic herald
#

Go to the OWL site

#

But should be this weekend

twin kettle
#

I wonder if it will be favored for a say a tank player to work on and learn echo, rather then a dps player to work on echo, while also learning how to play tanks at a high level

balmy wolf
#

you're dps player is probs garbage if they couldn't play tanks for 15 seconds in a pro match

tropic herald
#

With players like Rascal

#

I’d assume they want their dps to learn Echo

#

Presumably the flex dps learns Echo

#

ChipSa Echo inc?

twin kettle
#

Hasnt chipsa been benched for the most part? I havent watched any, fusion is it?, games

tropic herald
#

He’s rode the bench the whole time

#

But I could see redemption where he somehow manages to pick up Echo faster than other players on his team

#

Although

#

That’s unlikely

twin kettle
#

It seems like he kinda lives and dies with doom

tropic herald
#

Considering Carpe and Ivy are known for their rather strong pools

#

And even Eqo too

#

ChipSa has an insane doom

#

And then his other notable heroes are probably just Gengi, Hanzo, Mei and Pharah

#

So theoretically if doom becomes meta

#

We might see him

twin kettle
#

I've only heard of his notable doom play, but not much else

#

But i dont watch him either w/e

tropic herald
#

ChipSa hero pool is

#

Doom >>>>>>>> Gengi >>>> Hanzo >> Mei > Pharah >>>>>>> everything else

twin kettle
#

we may see a genji come back, i feel like a buff is in the works for him, idk about doom

balmy wolf
#

its very unlikely you'll ever see chipsa be subbed in

#

Every other hero besides doom is covered by someone else

#

And carpe basically has a locked starter slot

tropic herald
#

If Hackfist makes a comeback

#

Maybe

#

That’s the only situation I’m thinking of

twin kettle
#

He felt like a weird grab

balmy wolf
#

ok streamer pickups this year had 3 noteable things that got them into the team

#

Marketability due to them having popular on stream, specialization on a hero, their cheap

tropic herald
#

I mean he does have a really strong doom

#

And he got picked up at the time of a doom meta

twin kettle
#

I was kinda of jayne's side of thing when the controversy off hiring a streamer rather then someone actively working on getting into the pro scene

balmy wolf
#

chipsa tho is like a backup of a backup

tropic herald
#

I’d argue he has the best doom on philly

#

But that’s it

balmy wolf
#

ANS is a bit different since his hero pool is primarily hitscan and his mechanical skill is immense

tropic herald
#

ANS is essentially a widow specialist

#

And he smoked the other Shock dps in a FFA

balmy wolf
#

Yes, however thats his strongest dps

twin kettle
#

FFA isnt really a good indicator of an actual game

balmy wolf
#

he plays hitscan just fine

tropic herald
#

For widow FFA

#

I think it can show stuff

balmy wolf
#

makes sense since striker is the only other hitscan dps on shock

tropic herald
#

Yeah and Striker might’ve had his widow hyped up

twin kettle
#

Its probably going to take doom coming back for him to be played

tropic herald
#

Bc at least when I was watching it wasn’t bad but it wasn’t amazing

balmy wolf
#

its not bad too have redundancy

tropic herald
#

If there is widow

#

I’d love to see ANS

balmy wolf
#

striker has a crack mcree

tropic herald
#

Striker has a cracker tracer too

#

Wait

#

Wrong word

balmy wolf
#

lel

#

one the best tracers we've seen in the game alongside sbb

#

profit too has a cracked tracer

tropic herald
#

I think Danteh is a contender

#

But maybe just me

balmy wolf
#

oh yea its good

#

his team around him is just shit most of the time

#

S1 shock was bad

tropic herald
#

Also if the tracer thing happens to live

balmy wolf
#

and houston is still a big question mark

tropic herald
#

Houston coaching

#

And unlucky with sickness

#

Not coaching

#

Manage my

#

Management

balmy wolf
#

Im also wondering if architect is becoming a dps/flex support player

tropic herald
#

I think Viol2t was sick or injured

#

But I could see Architect doing that

balmy wolf
#

not even that

#

I dont think there was even confirmation that viol2t was sick

tropic herald
#

Bc Rascal is kinda Architect but Rascal has the clutch gene

#

With the uncanny ability to learn heroes super fast

#

Dallas let go of that player btw

balmy wolf
#

I thinks its more on the line of load management that crusty is experimenting with

#

If architect can play a good ana, then you could split time between both him and viol2t and still give them equal play time

tropic herald
#

Who is Shocks shot caller

#

I kinda want to know

balmy wolf
#

moth

tropic herald
#

Is it Moth

#

Ok

#

Makes sense

balmy wolf
#

however sinatraa is the leader

tropic herald
#

Watching Moth

#

I love it

#

He isn’t flashy always

#

But man

#

He thinks through things so well

#

Shout out to all the main supports I like watching

#

In OWL

#

Moth, Anamo, Slime, iDK, Masaa

balmy wolf
#

I remember slime clutch a point on koth by himself by just riding the ceiling

#

think it was the playoffs against NY or seoul

#

he got it too like 80% or something and they won in the end

tropic herald
#

Slime is a legend

#

I wonder why Shock haven’t even got a backup for Moth though

#

Or why lost teams just don’t have back up MSs

#

Most*

balmy wolf
#

considering hes the shotcaller, if their trialing someone they want someone similar too him

hidden vault
#

That skin doesn't like anything like shock?

#

And I'm also surprised they didn't get moth a back up

#

I assume rascal is the "back up" lol

balmy wolf
#

they have no backup for him since moth is the only lucio player

cloud latch
#

I thought super was the captain

brisk canyon
#

Which OWL team has the most friendly roster

#

I just wanna know which OWL team has nicest people

sage maple
#

Idk about nicest but I really like the Justice's roster, it feels like they're always having fun, especially the DPS duo Corey and Stratus, also Ark

tropic herald
#

Every roster has friendly people

sullen berry
#

Boston has Jerry

#

No other person would be your best friend more after discovering why he chose not to wear proper shoes in the snow

grave sonnet
#

i have a question, but i just want to preface it by saying i don’t mean this in a disrespectful way

#

how do the teams decide like the, state or country their from

raw ermine
#

Well

#

overwatch is made in California, so i guess a lot of teams are around there, as well as in the US in general

#

overwatch is also big in Korea and China, so teams are there

#

At the end of the day, its the biggest cities in the biggest countries

tropic herald
#

Certain parent companies are from certain cities

celest spear
#

It's a shame that he's not gonna start McCreeLUL

karmic grotto
#

Why wouldn't he?

celest spear
#

Heesu plays Hitscan

karmic grotto
#

And?

celest spear
#

Carpe also plays hitscan

#

I don't see Heesu playing unless it was like the weekend where both Widow and McCree were banned

uneven wren
brisk canyon
#

So excited

#

For this weekend

#

Shock is gonna steamroll

#

Baby

hot heart
#

Ngl they looked sloppy in their match with Dallas

brisk canyon
#

@hot heart :((

#

Shhh

#

You’re making me worried vaccine

raw ermine
#

Why are they going to SK?

#

Isn't SK a Covid hotbed?

#

why go on a plane at all

tropic herald
#

SK isn’t

#

America is the new hotbed

#

Or soon to be

raw ermine
#

sk has aprox 9000 cases

#

around 3700 recovered

#

the US is way more, but Canada has less than SK, and is bigger

#

BC only has 600 cases or so

celest spear
#

SK has drastically slowed the infection rate

#

South Korea is kinda rolling the Coronavirus over

tropic herald
#

Also SK is the homes of many members of London and Vancouver

celest spear
#

So according to Yiska, Shock is looking to trade Rascal

tropic herald
#

Wait

#

What

#

Why

raw ermine
#

hmm

#

the dps line is really stack to be fair

#

he it the ultra flex, which is extremely useful

#

technically, he is the weakest dps play, barring ANS who is an exception

#

arch, striker, and sinatraa are all more honed onto specific characters, and better at then

karmic grotto
#

Rascal? Maybe because Dallas needs Rascal back /s

#

Finally, Zachareee gone

celest spear
brisk canyon
#

Now they know

#

Who I stand for Pachimari

#

Bruh no Shock is keeping rascal bruh

#

Ain’t no trading

raw ermine
#

...

#

Better

#

wait

#

someone type

#

anything

#

now?

blissful heron
#

support t2!

brisk canyon
#

Hi

#

Just here to support my dominance

#

As an SF shock fan

#

@raw ermine

#

Bye

raw ermine
#

You don't have the name tho

#

do it