- Paris Eternal
#esports-discussion
balmy wolf
- Dallas Fuel
- London
- Boston
For me it seemed like Shock didnt really play their best OW
Viol2t not available and team coordination lacked a bit
raw ermine
that will be remedied soon
balmy wolf
but i think they werent as serious as they would be against others
raw ermine
yeah
balmy wolf
still lost a map so ill put VT over them
cloud latch
what happened to violet?
balmy wolf
@cloud latch nothing, architect played better in scrims
feral wing
Ah yeah, that feels, that feels good. Let me tell you Jake. I'm kind of a Rein God, if you've seen. I kind of dominate the opposition with relative ease. It feels good to be playing my hero, and doing what I do.
cloud latch
that makes more sense
balmy wolf
@raw ermine look on Twitter, they say nothing about violet being sick, they say architect played better in scrims
earnest leaf
Shock also looked like they weren't going 100%
And doha/decay popped off
Probabaly shaking off a bit of rust from not being on stage, and getting thrown off by viol2t not playing
karmic grotto
Not a problem, fans be fans
They will get better
Also Decay breaking his back from carrying
earnest leaf
Lmao yep
sand violet
Don't see how Titans are above shock
Shock actually trolled and did fine
They didn't even know architect was gonna be playing ana till a day before hand
Things like sinatraa just playing whatever he wants
etc
tropic herald
Shock trolling isn’t necessarily a good thing either
Shows they might be in over their heads
earnest leaf
Also will dallas be able to do much when mei and cree are most likely going to be out in the first hero pool
balmy wolf
I mean if Cree and mei is dead next month
then it's like
Dive with Genji Tracer or double sniper
swift moth
decay can do dive characters
his widow wasn't the strongest
toronto would be terrifying in double sniper
logix widow surefour hanzo
swift moth
I'm interested in seeing what happens if dva gets banned
like a hamm ban will only hurt one team in the league...
limber pine
I mean, Dva didn't get a heck of a lot of play yesterday
teams liked double main tank Rein/Orisa better
swift moth
she got a decent amount compared to zarya
limber pine
well sure
swift moth
shock seemed to want to run choi dva rather than orisa
worn falcon
Dva is better peeler, high mobility, can mitigate better and a good ultimate.
Ironically i felt I was watching goats again
swift moth
I believe the nickname of the reaper mei comp is "new goats"
balmy wolf
I mean if Rein was banned cause he was the most played
then it would either go back to dive or double barrier but with with double sniper for the dps for barrier with either or for dive
And if any support is gonna get banned it would be Lucio
Assuming of course they ban based on OWL play
glass tendon
So trying to get back into Overwatch with the new season starting thought it was a good time to watch the league any good matches yet?
karmic grotto
Ah yes, Baptiste Moira, back to trans on cooldown
balmy wolf
I wouldn't necessarily say "Good"
Most the matches were a one sided roll
Dallas got humiliated at their own homestand
glass tendon
So i watched gladiators vs titans and that seemed like a really entertaining set
balmy wolf
Valiant showed they got the goods
Paris is being odd but apparently that's cause their off tank is having visa issues
Boston just looks real bad
glass tendon
So nothing outstanding yet?
earnest leaf
Nyxl vs spitfire was pretty good imo
balmy wolf
I mean ehh
If you wanna watch a team get absolutely slaughtered
Watch NYXL vs Boston
or Shock vs Dallas
There were moments of really good individual play in Decay
but he's on a team that he clearly can't thrive on
earnest leaf
To win games it seems dallas is gonna need doha and decay to hard carry
balmy wolf
Oh yea hard
Trill is not very impressive
I think Dallas just doesn't really know what's good meta wise or what to run cause their starting six seems in and out
i don't see what's wrong with Gamsu and Note just starting rather than doing Gamsu and Trill
Cause that shit wasn't workin; especially against superior main tank play from someone like Super
earnest leaf
Also I wonder why boston didn't play mouffin to run rein dva
It's looking like she is pretty good atm and it's weird to see people forcing double mt
Anyone know how many times rein orisa comps have beaten rein dva comps so far in owl?
balmy wolf
It's been done by like Paris on the first match
I just can't remember who it was against
but they kept forcing it and ultimately lost
If I had to guess it's cause Rein Dva only became "meta" recently where as they practiced months of double barrier and the coaching staff might just be hilariously behind about the comps
earnest leaf
?
karmic grotto
Mineral is the head coach of boston
earnest leaf
Ah ok
earnest leaf
Just don't have swimmer 1v1 jjonak lol
balmy wolf
they have every intention of inflating their players to sell
no actual intent on really winning
And that's kinda why they'll remain a mid tier/lower mid tier team
NYXL meanwhile 👀
I enjoy them personally
I'm conflicted about vancouver
I want them to win for Ryujehong's sake
cause he hitting retirement age
but
They also have fissure who is a massive dick head
jagged crater
King of the trill
forest token
who’s still on vancouver
karmic grotto
everyone except bumper and tizi
karmic grotto
fissure and jehong to titans
forest token
too bad genji sucks
karmic grotto
?
earnest leaf
It's been ran a few times already
karmic grotto
Weird statement to make when you haven't watched owl
forest token
what comp/who?
jagged crater
Dive
forest token
who
forest token
what variant?
earnest leaf
But shock stopped their nano blade completely
jagged crater
Road dawg
forest token
also keep in mind, whoru is the guy funi loaned out because he refused to play brig
so if genji’s remotely viable they’ll be running it
what dive variant was it
jagged crater
So which heroes getting banned next month?
Most popular heroes were mei mccree rein and lucio
earnest leaf
If it's based off pr, looking like rein, mcree/mei, lucio
feral wing
any update on the chinese homestand this week?
are the matches still getting played?
where?
jagged crater
No sir
worn falcon
@forest token Winston/Dva/Sombra/Genji/Ana/Lucio
worn falcon
no
jagged crater
Nope
earnest leaf
Not yet
worn falcon
till march
jagged crater
Week 5
forest token
what stage is that
jagged crater
No stage
forest token
what
worn falcon
@forest token or this one too https://i.imgur.com/6zGqfVN.png
jagged crater
No more stages
jagged crater
Jel where u been
worn falcon
under a rock
jagged crater
I see
forest token
uni
jagged crater
Very good
worn falcon
@forest token this is vanc https://i.imgur.com/gGfp0FK.png
forest token
the main linchpins of the comp are sombra/ana, I don’t think you’d really want to run a tracer instead because you need to let the sombra work and the ana synergizes rlly well
which makes genji actually useful
swift moth
genji actually useful 
forest token
also helps that they’re not completely fucked by pull
worn falcon
but fucked by Mei, Dva or Ana
forest token
nah
mei relies on not having a shield in the way, matrix is too short-lived and nade/sleep also get fucked by shields
pull said “fuck your spacing” unless it got eaten which made it impossible for dive comps to do anything
you can really see how hard it is for the mei/reaper/rein to pin people where they want them without halt
limber pine
Mei will most certainly be banned if she stays the same
even though the bans are "random"
karmic grotto
the owl is a new way to matches, bruh
why do I get whole message
but the viewer won't be updated until tomorrow
swift moth
?
jagged crater
in what ways will the OWL bans be random?
limber pine
I was told they would take the top of the "most played" and pick them randomly from that
"The heroes will be randomly selected from a group of eligible heroes based on play-rate data from the previous two weeks of Overwatch League matches—only heroes that are being played regularly can be pulled from the next hero pool."
upper hawk
wtf dude i just realized the gladiators dont play again until Mar 7
a lot of other teams will have had 3+ matches by then
jagged crater
so it'lll only be random if the playrate of the top heroes are close to eachother
if one hero is way above the rest, then that hero would 100% get banned i take it, otherwise it wouldnt make any sense
mei is pretty clear top picked dps
limber pine
yes
limber pine
mccree reaper and mei were so much higher than everybody else
i think maybe tracer was fourth
jagged crater
rein is top but dva pretty close 2nd, could be another candidate for random tank ban
lucio quite a bit above ana, he might get the stick
at least for me , i hope rein doesnt get banned. He's never been a problematic hero even when he was meta
He's a well designed hero who's fun to play as, fun to play against, and fun to spectate.
upper hawk
if he gets banned...what do you think will happen? just Winston dive?
jagged crater
yes
upper hawk
Sigma was nerfed to crap
jagged crater
you already saw teams using dive with some success
upper hawk
yeah it seems to be coming back a bit
Ball/dva or winston d/va would be an interesting week
if reaper and mei were off the table itd be a dive free for all
and i would love every second of it.
hot heart
Dive
uneven wren
im glad teams are running dive and having success with it
hot heart
The OWL actually seems a bit more diverse now
uneven wren
the only mainstays (80%+) so far ive seen are rein and lucio
everything else at least gets swapped out more often
jagged crater
i'd consider mei and dva mainstays too
jagged crater
but it's early in the season, it's usually more diverse early
there's gonna be 4 more weeks before hero pools into play
by week 4 we gonna be seeing a lot less diversity
balmy wolf
Dive please
balmy wolf
More
jagged crater
who is that zen in the sfs shirt?
trail lodge
jagged crater
tlmes
worn falcon
Cimes
jagged crater
why does s4 have a sapphire ring, what is he doing
balmy wolf
Channeling thanos
tropic herald
He likes sapphires
jagged crater
dont u dare
balmy wolf
jagged crater
has he been doing CoD?
balmy wolf
I honestly have no idea
I don't follow CoD
He's just kinda vibing
My guy is everywhere
Just taking what he can
next mesa
I really wish ryujehong gets more playtime but idk how
storm cloak
Rewatching Boston vs nyxl
How does jonak win a 1v1 with a reaper after missing sleep?
karmic grotto
Got help from Anamo
tropic herald
And Jjonak is OP
raw ermine
anamo pocketed him, and he hit all abilities
bonus heal from the nade and color can't heal
worn falcon
You can see that beam from Mercy after Jjonak reach the medkit
balmy wolf
https://picrew.me/image_maker/229873
@jagged crater it's this (me) if that's what you meant
Make an avatar
shy nymph
@jagged crater yeah he left owl apparently, he was originally part of cod like waay back in the mlg days when cod was still small
I was suprised to see puckett when I first watch owl, same w/ goldenboy & mr x, they all had backgrounds in cod Mr X being coach for coL back in the day
frozen perch
Is OWL S3 being aired on TV?
tropic herald
Maybe the important games
sullen berry
There's definitely a second message somwhere
Apart from the obvious
"Charge Forward"
hidden vault
No it's not currently if I'm not mistaken
sullen berry
Who is replacing lulshish
cold pier
wow it’s like they have another MT on their roster and there’s the team’s official Twitter that’ll show their lineup prior to the game
karmic grotto
@sullen berry roar
hidden vault
What's wrong with lulshish?
Ok found lol
The wiki alread listed him as inactive
Washington really had the minimum amount of players
sullen berry
nothing really in their control
embassies or immigation policies, whoever is involved with their applications
should have been preventable - but it comes down to how they got it processed if the visa is still outstanding
little silo
any news on how they will handle the cancelled homestands?
full wigeon
karmic grotto
Looking back to main tanks gameplay, for example Trill, it doesn't seem like those players have the urge to watch the positionings of their teammates
If for example, he looked behind for a split second, he could have shielded Decay from being shattered
Hmm, unlucky though
Decay was in maximum shatter range while Crimzo avoided it
Nothing to do when Rain uses speed boost, however, Decay himself could have prevented that
Instead of going to the right, staying left, in LoS of Trill's shield
My God, Trill really needs to watch his own VODs for real
Tiny mistakes get punished so hard
hidden vault
Well I assume Rain could have boosted left too
Or trill was watching something else
In a game anything could happen
karmic grotto
true
north tendon
when will sparkle be eligible to play for paris?
limber pine
week 17 i think
karmic grotto
17/28, lmao
balmy wolf
I feel bad for decay
limber pine
yeah he can come back that sunday against Vancouver
balmy wolf
The man has to hard carry
balmy wolf
His only hope is that for season 4 a good team picks him up
He just has to fight for that right
In what way?
north tendon
ask for a korean roster
this entire drama was weird
I feel like the ex talent got so sensitive
even the tiniest things they take as an attack
balmy wolf
I mean some people were just not meant for the spotlight
Effect being just one of the biggest examples
You can absolutely claim culture and korea mentality being way too hardcore about it but like Looks at the other countless Korean gamers You dont air your dirty laundry out there
I’m just expecting Fissure to have another break down with mayhem giving him his last chance in the league
karmic grotto
I'm not expecting that
hidden vault
I believe fissure would hold on at least 1 season
I do believe he is at leaat trying to change
No one likes to be labeled bad
But it's still up to him to do smth
earnest leaf
Well he's on a consistently good team mie that can enable tf out of him. Should be good for him mentally
north tendon
so is jehong going to alternate with slime?
would suck if hes on the bench for most of the games
hidden vault
Yes but I expect to aee jehong only on maps that titians are more confident
Why break a perfectly oil-ed team?
I think jehong is brought in to be more of a senior figure to rhw titians
Also probably
Keep fissure's head cool
hidden vault
I don't know
north tendon
jehong the new mickie
north tendon
i have seen crimzo on all the maps so far
limber pine
because unkoe is sick or something
north tendon
ah that makes sense
balmy wolf
I mean Fissure was part of S1 London; Then S1 Gladiators; then bitched about being part of a korean roster and got in on Seoul Dynasty who had the potential and he still fucked that up
hidden vault
But most team don't have full bench
Fissure didn't bitch the 2nd time did he?
I agree he didn't show up
balmy wolf
He basically threw the semi finals for the gladiators
and made it very vocal that he didn't like the gladiators and wanted to be moved to a korean roster
limber pine
most teams have at least a third tank, healer and dps
hidden vault
On seoul it was the consensus was that it was a miss fit of play style
hidden vault
To sprite yup but accept titians's tank line and justice's support line
But i do agree with your point having on having bench
balmy wolf
If he does fall with Vancouver; what do you think the consensus or reason for his break down/quitting this time would be
hidden vault
I'm just kidding btw
What do you think his reason would be?
Oh and yes I think the VP's comment might have been taken out of context
Since the exchange mostly had been between pete and the ex talent
north tendon
i like jon hes a nice guy
feels like one of the most genuine in the league
pretty sure most wouldnt apologize
pete wouldnt
lul
balmy wolf
I do wonder is Choi from Shock team the only Sigma specialist on OWL? anyways its not gonna matter much as sigma is too bad against most comps
cloud latch
super plays sigma
balmy wolf
What i meant as in strong sigma specialist(like the mentioned on the OWL player pages), which i don't think super is
Choi kinda is just tank libero
He plays all the tanks to probably the highest tiers
hidden vault
I think specialist implies he only or mainly plays sigma
I think choi can at least play all 4 off tanks to owl level
balmy wolf
hmm the amazing thing about Shock is that most of their players so flexible. Though they did struggle on HLC map against Fuel. They are still clutch masters. I wouldnt be surprised though if they dont make it to finals since some teams are looking quite impressive like Valiant and more like Justice to be seen over the next few weeks.
@hidden vault in the OWL player pages you can see some specialists, interesting
but most players aren't one
hidden vault
Where is it? Link me
balmy wolf
hidden vault
Ty
balmy wolf
Specialist i guess is Top hero label.
hidden vault
Arhh it just says top hero
balmy wolf
I'm kinda just waiting for OW2
4+ heroes; a new game mode; and like all new maps for a season 4 OWL? Yes please.
I really want to see pro players play the new PUSH mode in OW2.
remove CP from the modes in OWL
I wonder how they'll incorporate it
Cause like is it going to be a best to map differential?
2cp; KoH, Payload, hybrid, and now push
I'd be totally down to see OWL teams play all of them instead of a first to three
it will play out like control and the payload hybrid you got seperate the team to do both .. it will be quite fun
I'd hope there are new teams in Season 4
hidden vault
Where do you hope will have new teams?
balmy wolf
I personally don't care
I'm kinda hoping more european scenes
and like japan
fusion
I wish fusions was the main tank of Paris S1
Benbest has (I think???) improved
karmic grotto
Rush coaching
limber pine
Paris benefits from this two main tank comp
short sparrow
Wdym @limber pine
limber pine
they ran Orisa-Rein most (all) of their matches.
short sparrow
Yeah, ik, but what do you mean it benefits them? xD
limber pine
nosmite in a second maintank role > Finnsi in offtank
although tbf, fdgod and xzi have been far better than Krusie and whatever dps they played last season
their team is just more talented now
short sparrow
Yeah, I think Finnsi would've been fine with the new coaching and other players...
Wonder if Hanbin will play next game
limber pine
The opposite is true for Dallas. They looked better having Note as offtank instead of Trill as a second main
echo fog
SpriteGuy you should nickname yourself CheezitGuy and change your status to Want a Cheezit Groove? 
hidden vault
sprite do you mean that they should have not have picked up smex and let go of finnisi?
karmic grotto
It's better to have new players than trying to get to coach an former one
Smex hasn't played in owl yet, and with the coaching of Rush and co, his potential becomes higher
balmy wolf
Fuel not playing for awhile. RIP
short sparrow
Yeah, he's in Envy
frozen tiger
Chipsa is new to the OWL, right?
cloud latch
yes
frozen tiger
I’m excited to see him play.
somber bay
jagged crater
king of the trill
upper hawk
watching chipsa stream makes me feel uncomfortable
just...hes amazing but...just watching him and hearing him talk is just
balmy wolf
When the quality of the camera be doo doo and his personality is also kinda doo doo but the gameplay is good
upper hawk
yeah hes so smug dude. but cant deny the talent
jagged crater
talent for what doom?
balmy wolf
chipsa is just acting smug because people find it funny, he prob doesn’t mean most of what he says
limpid estuary
Did they ever say how often they'll update the StatsLab with the data from the games?
jagged crater
nop
buoyant parrot
worn falcon
@limpid estuary Falcon_Kick CaptainPlanet (OWL Stats Producer) — 47 points · 5 days ago We aim to have the dashboards and data downloads update weekly, most likely tuesday following the previous weekend's matches
This is the source https://www.reddit.com/r/Competitiveoverwatch/comments/ezxc1g/hello_i_am_captainplanet_stats_producer_of_the/fgq8vqg?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x
crude flicker
I agree
Maybe in the past ChipSa was toxic but I find him pretty entertaining now
I don’t think his ego is as big as a lot people say it is
And yeah I doubt he ever gets play time
celest spear
ChipSa isn't really going to start unless it's to mess with bad teams
At the moment, Fusion have 5 DPS, one of which isn't even able to play until next moth
raw ermine
?
hot heart
limpid estuary
@worn falcon Thanks, its up now
karmic grotto
karmic grotto
In March :/
2 weeks waiting
3 weeks*
I hope to see Zen and Mercy more
Also, Dive
Soldier :(
sullen berry
I need to see some more ana being played, personally
she's just a badly built character when her alternatives are more efficient
balmy wolf
ana is being played a lot
karmic grotto
Good.
balmy wolf
Ana is the most skill required support in terms of general impact so I'm fairly happy about this
I only have a problem with meta when the lowest skilled dps and supports are meta
Reaper, Bastion, Moira, and Mercy
they need to nerf mei
the rest ist pretty fine
Mei's fine; personally I think if you were going to nerf her
Nerf the wall
idle gorge
but how do you nerf mei really good
balmy wolf
Or play way more maps with a lot more space that mei doesn't get as much value
nerf the wall or revert multifreeze
idle gorge
soldier is pretty low skilled too
balmy wolf
Mei's fine; multifreeze is fine; I'd like for her wall to be nerfed making it ever more imperative for teams to collapse on or run from the enemy
idle gorge
maybe some genji
idle gorge
gimme chipsa
balmy wolf
ur funny
idle gorge
ik
idle gorge
maybe make mei wall 4 pillars
balmy wolf
would be good
idle gorge
and maybe make the pillars have less health too
balmy wolf
i would nerf her ult
idle gorge
but how
balmy wolf
its an instant fight win
idle gorge
decrease affected area?
balmy wolf
nerf the range
I want SBB tracer vs Striker Tracer; their signature most well known heroes;
She's good cause she controls space but the way you counter her is constant teamwork peel. Or be real good off tanks which in OWL level they are. Legit; my marks for a good DVA are:
- Eats ults like it's damn candy
- Know when bombs should be used.
- Know how to peel.
or make it shorter
the time
If you can't work together then rip
If you're really concerned
They'll probably ban her in march
then it'll be a dive mirror
idle gorge
make it shorter will have almost no effect
cause if you won't walk into the blizzard if it's out
balmy wolf
I'm fine with it as it is; Lucio on speed with basic team coordination is enough to get out of a blizzard
balmy wolf
Watching the replays from the players perspective for san fran is so funny
but mainly cause Trill is getting hard shit on
karmic grotto
I've watched Dallas versus Valiant, hehe
Trill had such, odd moments
Like he doesn't know what to do
balmy wolf
Bro you just watch San Fran vs Dallas and it;s just the most random sleeps on him. They're not impactful sleeps but everytime trill is just slept which kinda makes architect's sleep numbers less impressive
it really do feel like he playing out of his league
idle gorge
I can’t watch them back with the players perspective cause I play on ps4 why do pc players always get better stuff
balmy wolf
Also Striker seems to be a real annoying as a teammate; dude is the literal genji "I need healing meme"
Cause we're the majority of the fanbase
idle gorge
But still I want to watch it back via their perspectives
idle gorge
What if they also implemented the voice comms into that
balmy wolf
They wouldn't want/shouldn't do that
Don't get me wrong
I'd love to see that personally
but
idle gorge
But that you could toggle it
balmy wolf
If I have to hear players say some of the most absurd shit; it would potentially damage the brand
And also like there's so much shit talk that would get revealed
karmic grotto
Wait for the owl to release voice comma
balmy wolf
You think I wanna hear Super basically call every tank player, Trill especially a shit player? Then there would be talks of "Are E-sports players held by the same standard as normal sports players???"
karmic grotto
Comms
idle gorge
But everyone knows super says shit like that
balmy wolf
Yea but those are the people who are more heavily invested
not to the casual normie crowd
It'd be like those Wall Street Journal ppl trying to do a take down on pewdiepie
I don't want these players to get shit for stuff they say in game
idle gorge
I’m not really heavily invested but ik that super shit talks everyone
And that he does it for the laugh
balmy wolf
Yea cause you are more heavily invested than say karen who works for the new york times
balmy wolf
Any news outlet will look for any reason to take down other people for "Hot takes" they don't necessarily care about it; but they will do everything in their power to make people look bad. Like a water'd down TMZ
balmy wolf
Fun for you is the equivalent of the take down of some of these players careers.
idle gorge
Yeah true
balmy wolf
So like no; bad idea; I like skillful play
the less drama and bringing up of stupid shit
the better
idle gorge
And if you want to hear super shit talk you should go to his stream
balmy wolf
Trill is actually like a bot
I'm growing ever more positive that like 85% of all of Architect's sleeps are just cause Trill drops his shield at the most obvious moments
bold axle
Did someone play Junkrat in the opening round?
balmy wolf
Doha did on Anubis
balmy wolf
Anubis is a real good junkrat map
balmy wolf
There probably was more
But I'm just using the replay viewer to see more about how jjonak and Architect play Ana
So I've been watching all of the NY games and Shock maps
swift moth
have they fixed/returned the token system
cloud latch
no
hidden vault
what happened to violet tho?
celest spear
sage maple
I thin Doha also played it on Lunar Colony to snatch a W against Shock
celest spear
Doha played junk on Horizon, yeah
that was the only time Junkrat has been played this season so far
karmic grotto
Member
This is the first match Shock has gotten a map taken
And first map dallas take from shock since maybe season 1
earnest leaf
I'm inclined to say decay and doha took a map from shock heh
karmic grotto
Ah yes
earnest leaf
They just did so much to win hlc
hot heart
Doha and decay are really solid
Decays mccree is just fucking better than most of OWL
celest spear
hot heart
jagged crater
decay's always been solid, he just got shit on when he was on glads for not being worth the price
balmy wolf
Cause meta wasn't for him
now he's on a team with people who clearly aren't to his league
karmic grotto
breaking his back with doha
balmy wolf
Bro the amount of carrying he has to do just for Trill Alone
is actually insane
The level of noticeable difference in quality of play and on how far apart they are might as well be T500 and masters
jagged crater
dont be mean to trill, he's trying his best 😦
balmy wolf
His best isn't enough; I'm of the mindset that if you can't prove your spot consistently then you don't deserve to keep that spot. And I know there are loads of other tank players who would like their chance.
gaunt acorn
@errant slate this is not the place to advertise tournaments, contact modmail if you wish to do so
sullen berry
jagged crater
too damn high?
tropic herald
Twitter
cloud latch
who's that
tropic herald
wub
cloud latch
oh
celest spear
jagged crater
love edp
tropic herald
balmy wolf
wait
hidden vault
Lol empathy what a troll
Neko maybe but they have Myunbong
And neko is currently playing for O2 blast
jagged crater
was neko the drama queen or was that someone else
jagged crater
think it was both>?
upper niche
@sage maple Are you watching Custa review SFS v DAL now?
jagged crater
i didnt even know he was streaming
sage maple
Uhh, no why?
raw ermine
I feel bad for ado, good that he gets another shot after being on shanghai then washington
jagged crater
ado got a team now 🙂
karmic grotto
Uhm
earnest violet
wait, so what was the deal with bumper? is he on any team at all now?
or did he retire? I havent heard anything about him, but tbf I havent looked for anything about him.
jagged crater
bumper fell asleep on the wheel
limber pine
it's hard to see where they've improved
or at least, improved on the issues they had last year
karmic grotto
You never know but they can do good
limber pine
I have them 8th
hidden vault
true
quaint wren
do they post all owl games on yt?
quaint wren
are those vods recorded streams or actual gameplay recording
so tired of watching recorded streams of any ow vid on yt lol
balmy wolf
They're basically the recorded streams
if you want to watch the actual gameplay from each player's perspectives
look at the overwatch replay viewer
it's on the blizzard client
karmic grotto
Isn't youtube a live recorded from another source
limber pine
liquipedia still says two way
balmy wolf
Huh.
Even so, there weren't any better options than Ado?
The only thing he really brings is a Genji.
Whatever, I'll trust the Spark management, maybe they have some plans for him.
balmy wolf
Also apparently Ria isn't playing for their first game, Sasin will be on flex tank.
limber pine
I wonder if they'll be playing an offtank or a second main tank
they don't play until week 5
balmy wolf
Sasin can play Dva, so I'd imagine they'd still be playing Rein/Dva.
When do hero pools get introduced
limber pine
Week 5
balmy wolf
Anything could happen then.
Depending on what heroes are banned.
I'd imagine we'll see Mei and Lucio banned first.
cloud latch
probably rein
swift moth
if they ban rein that would just mean double shield again probably
maybe dive tho idk
cloud latch
🙏 please dive
balmy wolf
It's very likely dive
There's too much shield spam and Orisa and Sigma are still shit
celest spear
Rein, McCree, Lucio and Mei are banned
100%
We'd probably go to some weird dive variant or so
celest spear
mint turtle
Pog
silver carbon
jagged crater
love the GiG memes
idle beacon
what happened to diem?
sullen berry
He needed to be checked about 2 week prior to season opening due to an injury, he's back now and scrimming with the team again @idle beacon
Honestly you missed nothing
Shanghai's home game was scheduled for this weekend but due to the coronavirus all games in China are cancelled
So most of the Pacific East 
won't have their first game until Seoul's Homestand
idle beacon
@sullen berry thanks!
sullen berry
👌
idle gorge
obi what are your predictions for this weekend?
sullen berry
that's a secret now
I've changed it since I last showed you
every prediction roll i make is scuffed
but they all point to a fun match against Mayhem this weekend
idle gorge
you think fla wins from outlaws?
sullen berry
bet
i didn't want to predict paris eternal
i thought I was fked last week
but they didn't see benbest coming
or xzi's dps rolling BOTH dallas and london
hidden vault
Xzi rolling doha
karmic grotto
where?
tropic herald
Paris haven’t played Dallas yet
hot heart
cloud latch
ah yes I remember that too
next oxide
Paris was bad
Xzi carried
hidden vault
benbest seemed to have improved too
balmy wolf
Is it actual improvement or fighting against bad teams
hot heart
Benbest has improved
grizzled mango
Who would play main tank when hanbin joins? No smite or benbest
raw ermine
smite cause he is korean probably
hidden vault
yeah I think it would be no smite too
but then there would be a problem of a different speaking backline
just like shanghai had in season 1
grizzled mango
I haven't seen no smite rein too much but if benbest is better rein that why not? Unless hanbins english is bad. Their frontline last weekend was also a Korean and french
hidden vault
It won't likely be when sparkle comes to age
grizzled mango
Afaik the team is speaking english during the match. In game communication isnt really a big problem if players know basic English. I think paris team actually doesn't have as much of language barrier as most people think.
hot heart
I think i heard somewhere That the whole team is learning english
raw ermine
Twitter
I feel like there are an influx of coaches like asher, retiring from OWL to become coaches
best of luck to him tho
also...
Twitter
I hope this is sarcasm, but people think it isn't
karmic grotto
Chipsa picture deleted
supple prism
@raw ermine i believe it is, its basically a repost of what some other twitter posted
limpid estuary
So I've already forgotten
What patch will the weekly games be played on?
This weeks, or last weeks?
The Sym buffs might have an impact on her play if its this week's patch. But if they're playing 1 patch behind, she'll still be at only 120 damage.
hot heart
Idk
celest spear
They try to push live's patches to OWL as fast as possible, iirc
so this current patch would be OWL's patch
limpid estuary
Okay cool.
Small sample size, but lets see if Widow goes down or Sym goes up
Hammond and Brig saw little play to begin with, but those two could see some notable changes.
worn falcon
@limpid estuary yep theyre gonna try fast as possible, but is possible to get some delays:
In January, we’ve deployed several quick patch updates to the game—including, for the first time, balance updates to the live patch. We wanted to give Overwatch League fans some visibility into how future patch updates will be integrated into pro play:
Our overall goal is to move balance updates as quickly as we can from the live game service to Overwatch League matches.
Whenever the live game receives a new patch, the Overwatch League will begin playing on that patch two weekends later.
Any mid-patch updates to the game that go into effect during a match weekend will be deployed for Overwatch League matches the following weekend.
Please note that the Hero Pool and patching/update formats could be revised at any point during the season. We will listen closely to the fans and players, learn from our collective experiences, consider adjustments, and test new strategies along the way. We can’t wait for the 2020 season to get started and we look forward to hearing the community’s feedback. ```Iconic
raw ermine
lmaooooo
shy nymph
dat boi needa shave
little silo
China homestand matches get moved to Week 6 and 7 (maybe 5 too) and they take place in Seoul
tropic herald
Me realizing that Alarm debuts in OWL tomorrow
jagged crater
no chinese homestands at all?
tropic herald
Later in the year
@jagged crater either at Seoul homestand in w5 or during w6-7 in Seoul
jagged crater
is that confirmed
sullen berry
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8qey93rmKG4 @worn cedar h y p e
vivid shard
sullen berry
first video i have noticed birdring's english
https://twitter.com/overwatchleague/status/1228502716306952197
short sparrow
Chinese homestand got postponed remember?
hidden vault
Yup
raw ermine
its schedule
check the OWL website and see your times
this week has 12 games!!
nuts
lmao for me its from 1 am to 5 pm
better wake up early
sullen berry
on the plus side
Philly, Washington and the outlaws homestands will close out March nicely
celest spear
I mean, shit happens
There were going to be as many matches this week as it was last week, but with the Corvid-19/Coronavirus outbreak, US travel bans and China banning all mass gathers, it's kinda hard to have more out of the blue
sullen berry
now
I need to finish up my best of Florida Mayhem season 2
which is like
5 mins seeking Stage 4 Ws
closest to their existing roster
stuck ridge
i didnt EVen WATCH A SINGLE GAMe
digital brook
@sullen berry who's the best support player in your opinion?
sage maple
Architect.
sage maple
Or Kariv, man builds Nanos like they’re on cooldown
tropic herald
Moth
gusty horizon
karmic grotto
Winning 3-0 doesn't mean destroyed though
raw ermine
3-0/4-0 games can be close indeed
eternal wigeon
Thought the same when I saw that
golden dagger
Y'all think Florida might actually be good this year? How do y'all think their match with Houston is gonna go today?
dawn vale
tropic herald
Considering Alarm makes his OWL debut today
cloud latch
unless they run boombox heh
cloud latch
thanks
balmy wolf
Watch them actually do it
cloud latch
please fusion dont
tropic herald
They are going to play Chipsa
raw ermine
boom might actually be the better moira tho, and since ana, bap, and moira are all options, we need to wait and see who they play
they might wanna capitalize in alarm's skill tho
hidden vault
Any games tonight?
little silo
Yeah they start in 4h
hidden vault
Thanks lenn
little silo
Mayhem plays the Outlaws and then the Justice play the Fusion
tropic herald
They start at
worn hornet
So just Philly this week?
fair wing
im really curious (no i dont plan to join anything) but how do i join a owl team? what are the requirement? how do tryout etc etc
balmy wolf
Mitch makes me laugh super hard
He's my favorite hype caster
"ONE DOES NOT SIMPLY CHALLENGE THE OCTOPUS KING!"
balmy wolf
He's fun
Also the way you join is a couple of ways
- You either stream and are GM and sufficiently good enough for teams to be "Let's look into it."
- Are a ladder monster; like actually straight alpha chad so hard they look at you and give you a shot
- Go to contenders and participate in tournaments and make yourself known there.
@fair wing
fair wing
ah oke thx
fair wing
oh yes
stuck ridge
and not make the team
fair wing
:D
worn hornet
that's my route
stuck ridge
big brain
worn hornet
as a gold-at-best player
stuck ridge
yes
worn hornet
my best bet would be convincing the Uprising that they could make money off me
stuck ridge
worn hornet
you familiar with the NHL/AHL structure?
fair wing
im afraid not
worn hornet
or baseball's minor minor leagues
worn hornet
My understanding is that contenders is mostly like those meatsport equivalents.
It's a league that's functionally one step below the OWL, with a lot of contenders teams having direct affiliations with OWL teams
hot heart
Conteders is the baby brother to OWL
worn hornet
and some players having 2-way contracts where they can be called up from Contenders if the OWL affiliate needs them to fill a roster slot
hot heart
Whats the first match of today? @balmy wolf
worn hornet
Mayhem/Outlaws at 4 Eastern
fair wing
im hyped for see chipsa tbh
worn falcon
ChipSa probs not gonna see playtime
balmy wolf
It's very unlikely that you'll see Chipsa
He's going to be a bench boi for the time being until the stars allign and the hero bans come into play
fair wing
Oh... Now im sad
balmy wolf
He was never going to get playtime unless doom was going to be meta or if they big brained it and found someway to do something with it
And based on the first weekend of OWL
it ain't happening chief
worn falcon
Cant see chipsa playing Mei when you have Eqo
fair wing
i mean.. he can play mei and/or hanzo
balmy wolf
I mean EQO is objectively better than him at both those heroes
frozen perch
so tired of mei
fair wing
mei is nice
cloud latch
haha
fair wing
i wanna learn her tbh
balmy wolf
Sinatraa did get bored and said fuck it
and went doom
Not some big brain play but because he is that confident in his dps capability
fair wing
ah oke
balmy wolf
and also part of the reason why it makes me so sad that there are actual great dps great at certain heroes but are forced to play meta when they can kinda make it work but the skill required has to be very disparaging
SBB's Tracer being the biggest example for me
Also Sinatraa was very very very sure his team was going to win
So he had room to fuck around
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gloomy vector
cricp there will be no meta soon after the hero pools get released so idk what to say
balmy wolf
Sym isn't meta and she probably never will be. And paris isn't a good team to look at for what is meta
They knew their opponents were going to run Rein DVA so what can't DVA eat? Beams
Their goal was to sustain and have high mobility on point and hope to god that the sym could eliminate everything with the charge 3 beam but good teams and players won't fall for it
gloomy vector
sym would be good for getting to point faster but after that she's ok
fair wing
ah oke
balmy wolf
Wait who is philly fighting today?
raw ermine
little silo
Washington
balmy wolf
I think Washington might give them a fight for their money
I haven't kept up with the trades; so Idk how well or strong washington is but I know their dps is capable and won't be easily abused
Mayhem I don't know anything about but given Florida's track record
I'd say that is likely when you'd find Chipsa if at all
raw ermine
there support line is decent
tank line is the weakest IMO
dps yeah it should be good
but Elli i think has visa issues
balmy wolf
We're talking about florida right?
raw ermine
nah washington
balmy wolf
okay just clarifying
Sado I expect to remain unimpressive
Poko might have a chance to shine once more
raw ermine
https://twitter.com/overwatchleague/status/1228019491247812608 oh damn thats even