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mint flower
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yeah i like this

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kinda forces people to expand their hero pools

balmy wolf
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i love it

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no more one tricking

raw ermine
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the article is interesting

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1 tank gone, 1 support, 2 dps

mint flower
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lol chipsa has to learn new heroes now

raw ermine
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and its common heroes

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so unless we get a doom meta, it won't happen likely

celest spear
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That's the thing, ChipSa can play Genji and Hanzo along with Fist, but every other DPS on Fusion covers that better than him McCreeLUL

raw ermine
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yeah

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his doom is the only thing he should EVER play

limber pine
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if hero pools are weekly for comp you could just wait a week on that role

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and try something else

supple prism
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weekly might not be bad

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seasonal would suck

balmy wolf
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they said they are open to making changes

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like making it every day, or every match

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instead of every week

supple prism
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every match is much too short and daily ....eh

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bi-weekly?

limber pine
supple prism
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its amazing how many features they have added and are about to add recently

balmy wolf
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bi-weekly is way too long

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also idk about it in OWL

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because of the stress on players and coaches

supple prism
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bi-weekly meaning twice a week

balmy wolf
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plus traveling

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ah my bad chp

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could be

supple prism
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bi-weekly is a stupid term

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im never using it again

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oh did they mean 2 weeks or twice a week? who know!

balmy wolf
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yeah it isn’t specific enough

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Who will win the Dennis Hawelka Award?

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need help with this one

supple prism
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the what

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i cant remember that

balmy wolf
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idk its ine the google doc

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on the*

supple prism
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OH

raw ermine
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dennis hawelka is the wholesomeness award

balmy wolf
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Hmm

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so like I imagine

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Orisa/Sigma, Mei and hanzo, and baptiste are likely the one to be banned

raw ermine
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yeah

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but it goes into effect on march 7th

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so who knows what the meta is then

balmy wolf
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Probably dive

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Or Rein zarya with ana lucio and Widow with genji

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Question for dive is do you use ball or monkey or dva cause you likely still will be using Ana

raw ermine
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I feel like it will flip flop

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for example, lets say the data from the previous weeks indicate orisa, hanzo, mei and bap are the best

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and they get removed

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and it becomes dive

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with dva, ana, widow,pharah

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then they will get removed

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and it goes back to orisa hanzo mei bap

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and they get removed

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and back and forth

balmy wolf
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they’ll prob only get rid of one or two heroes for tanks and supports

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Like it will

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but it's a step in the right direction

little silo
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didnt jeff say that they would slightly adjust the stronger heroes

limber pine
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I would assume the data in many ways

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nerfs and buffs

tropic herald
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@supple prism biweekly is two weeks use semiweekly for twice a week

supple prism
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biweekly is both

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but ok

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Biweekly means twice a week or every other week. This causes ambiguity when the term is used. As a result, in the United Kingdom, Ireland, Australia and New Zealand, the term biweekly is commonly restricted to one meaning, twice a week, and fortnightly is used when referring ...

analog lark
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Yeah i thought biweekly was twice a week tbh

worn hornet
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~~So is this hero pool stuff also applying to OWL?~~Video wasn't over.

worn falcon
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This change won't change who the best teams are, the good teams are the ones with confidence in their play and trust between their teammates. Adaptable players and teams that are able to talk things out together will still be strong. It will only effect "our meta" teams.

Likes

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PS: At the risk of burn out. Adapt to the meta in a week

balmy wolf
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more like 2

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they have bye week

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and are notified of what heroes are ban beforehand

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So really this is on the coaches to start truly show casing how good they are

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I can see why teams started getting 4-5 dps now

worn falcon
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Player rotation, so ChipSa can shine if doomfist is available...probably

idle beacon
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why did blizz move from twitch to youtube?

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is there any particular reason?

tropic herald
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Money

worn cedar
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Better monetary cut

tropic herald
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Viewers

worn cedar
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More viewership

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We just said the same thing

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LOL

idle beacon
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so nomore twitch prime stuff and all that

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too bad

tropic herald
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That’s pretty epic

idle beacon
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what?

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what is

balmy wolf
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that

north tendon
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I find it interesting that the hero pools dont apply to the playoffs and grand finals

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so teams are just going to figure out "the optimal meta comp" weeks before playoffs are carried out?

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or maybe go for a safe comp

upper niche
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"We know the game has a probnlem. Lets make the most important games shit".

north tendon
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its pretty weird and inconsistent

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makes me wonder if live game will have those weeks

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also they talked about banning heroes with the highest pickrates randomly in the last 2 weeks

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but heroes cant get banned twice in a row

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so I assume its the next highest eligible heroes?

upper niche
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Where did you see that "heroes can't get banned twice in a row"?

tropic herald
upper niche
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Yeah, so that's just for OWL. It's interesting (not necessarily bad) how it will differ slightly between public and OWL.

limber pine
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It will likely not be different

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i have no evidence to support that statement though

upper niche
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Jeff said in the video that intially for public it'll be on a one-week basis, but it may in fugurte be different lengths - eg, 1 day he used as an example.

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So don't be surprised if we get say, some weeks where it changes 3 times.

worn cedar
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it makes sense to have 0 restrictions on the most important games. that way they aren't decided by otherwise semi arbitrary hero bans.

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since there wouldn't be complete fairness in having hero bans during those most important games

sullen berry
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This sums up the compelling af narrative element

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It also means I'm having to scruitinze every patch that's in favour of any one team during a given period throughout the season

upper niche
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huh? Dallas, Jayne?

balmy wolf
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You dont have to scrutinize the patch to see whos in favor, just check their coaching staff

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Top teams have actual good coaches who made their teams do well in every meta that popped up

sullen berry
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@upper niche the man who invented esports facing off metaphorically against chipsa

upper niche
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wtf? 'man who invented esports'? How young are you?

sullen berry
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the same way you would look at Gamsu wiping the smug look off HuK's face against uprising

upper niche
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How old was Jayne when Angel Munoz was forming CPL?

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And he wasn't even the first.

sullen berry
upper niche
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pretty crap joke.

balmy wolf
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oh bren made the joke about jayne about inventing esports

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its pretty hilarious

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let me get the clip for you

sullen berry
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won't matter

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but appreciated for lurkers everywhere

balmy wolf
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plush coral
hot heart
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@barren tusk yo Washington is fucked

hidden vault
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Erm gg youtube???

raw ermine
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he doesn't like the pear emoji's?

worn cedar
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I don't think yt will like that v much if it gains traction

feral wing
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is there anywhere i can watch the NA contenders seeding tournament vods?

limber pine
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do people really like twitch chat spam

tropic herald
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It’s kinda fun

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Except you could only use default twitch emotes

karmic grotto
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This is a bit late but

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OVERWATCH LEAGUE 2020 SEASON 3

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NEVER STOP HYPING IT UP. EACH DAY until the 8th of February

worn cedar
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HELL YEAH

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trail lodge
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All you need to know

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They added Fire and Kodak

cloud latch
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all that wait for that

hot heart
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Whats this? @trail lodge

trail lodge
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Atlantas roster anncoucment

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for 2020

hot heart
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Hows kodak been doin?

limber pine
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I've always liked Kodak, but he's less of a high risk-high reward player

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than dogman

raw ermine
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Fire is ms?

limber pine
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yes

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raw ermine
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Reign are stacked now

hot heart
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pogU πŸ‘‰ ATL10k

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Reign are stacked now
@raw ermine Very true

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Place them 5th

raw ermine
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All roles filled with 2 ppl, and with extremely good players

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Top 5 easily

hot heart
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4th actuallt

raw ermine
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I think I put them 3rd

hot heart
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Oh damn

raw ermine
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With shock and nyxl before

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Erster Edison is so nutty tho.

hot heart
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Hm

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So like

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GZ should be 4th or 5th for you then?

raw ermine
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I forget

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1 sec

hot heart
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Okiewidepeepo

raw ermine
hot heart
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Wait

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Paris 15th

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Id put dallas 15th

raw ermine
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They will improve

hot heart
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Or maybe

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14

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But Paris

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They will

raw ermine
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But the core is shaky

hot heart
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Yeah

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Paris has dead weight

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Why

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I really dont know

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And why nosmite

raw ermine
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Indeed

hot heart
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Why not

raw ermine
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The EU Korean mix is rather odd

hot heart
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Tizi maybe

raw ermine
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Yeah

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Was he gone yet?

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I don't remember

hot heart
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Gone?

raw ermine
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Off of VT

hot heart
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Yeah

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Long time ago actuallt

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if i was VAN id at least keep tizi if i was dropping bumper

raw ermine
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As would I

hot heart
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Fissure is

raw ermine
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Best case scenario is keeping both

hot heart
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Concerning

raw ermine
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Yeah

hot heart
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Ye

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I dont get it

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This team

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Doesnt make sense

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Why would you ever drop someone

raw ermine
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It must have had to do with Harsha leaving or something

hot heart
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From this team

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Yeah

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But

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Why

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Who in their right mind would drop bumper and tizi at the same time

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It just shocked me

raw ermine
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I remember sideshow saying the the VT management doesn't know what makes them good

hot heart
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Fucking VANpepelaughpoint

raw ermine
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Which is the synergy and skill

hot heart
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They dont

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Yeah

raw ermine
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Bumper is the longest lasting member

hot heart
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Longest standing roster

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In OW

raw ermine
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Yeah

hot heart
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Then

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Bumper got dropped

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And it all went to shit

raw ermine
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Dude played every role

hot heart
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6th placeOmegalul

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Honestly

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At worst

raw ermine
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There was internal conflict

hot heart
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Id put them 7th

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At best

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4th

raw ermine
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Eah

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Yeah

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If it works they will be scary tho

hot heart
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Yeah

raw ermine
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If, is the question however

hot heart
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See its too big of an if for a team like THE VANCOUVER TITANS to risk

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But

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They did it

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I wonder where tizi and bumper are headed

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Houstan for tizi maybe

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Bumper

raw ermine
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Houston seems reasonable

hot heart
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I really dont know

raw ermine
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Imagine bumper going back to run away

hot heart
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The guy is a nutcase

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But

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He needs a world class team supporting him

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Or else he just feeds like crazy

raw ermine
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Imagine flow3r and bumper on the same team

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Lmao

hot heart
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I know

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The Plays Kreygasm

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But

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I really dont want to see bumler in t2

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That place is dying

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Real quick

raw ermine
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They need to quickly work it out

hot heart
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They wont

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Why should blizz care rn

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If OWL pops off S3 with traveling an all

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Why should they do anything

raw ermine
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We need nate nanzer. That's who we need

hot heart
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Yeah

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But he isnt coming back

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So

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This is what we have

raw ermine
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Pete is ...

hot heart
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An esports so big

raw ermine
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Unfamiliar

hot heart
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League of legends doesnt rival it

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Not even close

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And huge sponsors

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And we have

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Some idiot

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Who doesnt know shit about esports

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And assumes its regular sports with computers

raw ermine
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President of something over at Fox comes to OWL

hot heart
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At least compared to Nate

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President of something over at Fox comes to OWL
@raw ermine Pepega pepelaughpoint

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Fucking blizz

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The fuck

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I just realized

raw ermine
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I would like to interrupt this conversation to bring you

hot heart
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Chengdu and Washington might be bottom 6

raw ermine
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Haksal is sfs

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raw ermine
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Watch the vid

hot heart
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Ok

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Pepega HYPERCLAP i see

raw ermine
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I mean

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I won't pass up a good haksal blade

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But

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They probably wanted a sinatraa beaming down ppl

hot heart
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Wtf is haksal gonna do on VAN PepeLaughCorn

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YepogU

tropic herald
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Dude

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I knew it was Fire and Kodak

idle beacon
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hero pool voting

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FUCK YES!

jagged crater
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where

mint flower
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O we getting do the voting?

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That's neat

jagged crater
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where does it say voting?

mint flower
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Also I know I'm late atlanta just became my second favorite team with that trailer

tropic herald
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Atlanta is my favorite team PogChimp

mint flower
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Shanghai is my favorite team

mint flower
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That league with chat thing wut have token drops right?

umbral bone
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is sleepy on a team?

raw ermine
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no

hidden vault
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no

raw ermine
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He probably will just stream now

hidden vault
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his only chance was Atlanta

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but honestly kodak deserved it

umbral bone
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He’s actually one of my fav streamers now

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He seems like he actually enjoys the game

cloud latch
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...but for how much longer

umbral bone
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lol true

hidden vault
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probably longer since hero pool is coming out

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then again it may backfire since he is a primarily a zen player

balmy wolf
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he plays ana mostly on stream i believe

grizzled mango
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Is owl league pass a thing this season? We are 1 week away and I haven't heard anything

balmy wolf
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we don’t know

supple prism
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Well that was a twitch thing and its youtube now so who knows

karmic grotto
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balmy wolf
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Is that a bait from Carter or did they just completely drop mayhem academy?

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Hm obviously no bait.

supple prism
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sounds shitty

celest spear
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We knew that Mayhem Acad was gone and rebuilding

karmic grotto
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Oh man

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Carter was happy being in Mayhem

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Without warning as well

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Why the **** can't people tell players the truth without being cowards?

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ah yes, water is wet

upper niche
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It's comparing it to other merchandise like keychains, magnets, other variations of the jersey, I don't think that's rocket science.

karmic grotto
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I know

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Just saying

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Also, they're pretty smart

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They let people pre order the jerseys

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That money is used to produce the Jersey they gonna start shipping around March

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As long as the quality is good. From the videos I've seen, I really wish to have one ASAP

stark rapids
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Its pain and torture every day being a Boston fan BostonUprising

tropic herald
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Yes

supple prism
raw ermine
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I thought this was going to be Fissure breaking down or something but lmao what a savage

balmy wolf
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Boston Uprising are gonna be a wildcard three years in a row, jesus

karmic grotto
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6 days left for the first match: Toronto Defiant versus Paris Eternal. No Sp9rk1e or Hanbin, but XZI, the new recruit would start/play in that match. We trust coach Rush in making Paris Eternal stronger since he has full control over the roster.

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VS

sullen berry
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now look at that schedule

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less than half the games are going to play in the first 4 weeks

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and all of them are in the Pacific (okay bar dallas)

karmic grotto
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Pacific?

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Pacific is...

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West or East

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I forgot

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PST

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West

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Ah

sullen berry
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Atlantic Division: North/South
Pacific Division: East/West

karmic grotto
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Huh

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Oke

sullen berry
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South is the hardest to picture

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East as in East Asia: ChengduHuntersShanghaiDragons GuangzhouCharge HangzhouSpark SeoulDynasty

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I just know whose in the that competitive western division and atlantic north

karmic grotto
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I see.. Good thing Atlanta plays the 29th of February

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I thought it was March

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I can now

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Rest in peace

sullen berry
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the real winners would be the Eastern teams who had to relocate to South Korea

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and the other pacific division teams who aren't going to play

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due to week 2 and 4 cancellations in china

karmic grotto
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Because they can scrim easier?

sullen berry
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there is that

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but on the other hand

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do shock need to rely on South Korea scrims

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or more intestingly

karmic grotto
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Is Shock in NA?

sullen berry
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Pacific West

karmic grotto
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Shouldn't they be in SK then

sullen berry
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they have to play opening weekend

karmic grotto
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In Dallas

sullen berry
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gladiators have the opening game against titans

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pog

karmic grotto
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Would be interesting

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I haven't heard anything about gladiators scrim bucks

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But we know, that scrim doesn't always mean something

sullen berry
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no, but it's the best gauge for the titans at least

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if anyone's power rankings are based on their season predictions this early in the year

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they should take out glads and valiant 4-0

karmic grotto
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They lose 4 matches?

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They play only 3 games per match

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Maps*

sullen berry
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i hadn't thought about that

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map fives are even more unlikely if fissure redemption arc truly delivers throughout the season

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i would highly doubt that, mind you

karmic grotto
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Fissure suddenly becomes the best main tank of season 3

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But you know

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With this new upcoming update

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We would see more players shine individually

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And main supports now have to shot call on point

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Less time to memorise moves, more time to actually play the game and use your real skill

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To show the world that you are the best players

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In any situation, meta and heroes

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Which is why I am disappointed that some players won't get the time to shine this season

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If we get to see dive with Genji and Tracer, Lucio/Ana/Zen

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Or Mercy

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You know, I am happy

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I want to see pros actually play skillful heroes

sullen berry
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that's generally the case, ngl
I would like to see some serious flexing, subbing and potent role swaps

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when teams have less time to practice due to travel schedules

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I can assume there will be least one more team with their own hydration, rascal or hotba

karmic grotto
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I agree. The flexing role should come back

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It should never have been removed

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Usually dva players where flex

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Right?

sullen berry
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not removed, just reworked honestly

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you're not going to get profit playing on junkertown and switch back to dive tracer

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instead you'll have hydration

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put on main tank in the starting lineup

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then only until the next map starts

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can he decide as part of harsha's planning

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to go into dps or remain on tank

karmic grotto
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Hydration, Rascal, Hotba

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Who else?

sullen berry
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there's tons

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depends on if they are still going at it

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I'll brb

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i can think of a couple that would go damage to tank

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never support, lol

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oh sbb

karmic grotto
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Why him?

sullen berry
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he could in theory flex into baptiste, if my stream memory tells me he could

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but in practice

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that's not going to replace jjonak/anamo

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just in terms of how well hotba integrates with their dps

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or if he becomes their dps

karmic grotto
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He's flexible enough though

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I don't see why

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They still have whoru there

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I haven't seen much of him yet

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It's a question mark to me

karmic grotto
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I know it's 6 days until the first match, BUT I AM SO HYPED, IMPATIENT

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And bored

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feral wing
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whats everyones power rankings

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Idk dude

quartz cairn
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Titans low asf

worn cedar
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Mayhem mayhem

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@quartz cairnhow low?

quartz cairn
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2nd last

tropic herald
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Uhhhhh

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Idk about that one

quartz cairn
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πŸ˜‚

tropic herald
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They aren’t top tier

quartz cairn
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Just quite low^

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Was exaggerating

tropic herald
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But I’d say they are top 8

quartz cairn
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Dw

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Idk about top8 tbh

tropic herald
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My top 5 I feel is rational and makes sense

quartz cairn
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They revolve around the meta

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And with the hero bans

tropic herald
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Shock, NYXL, Atlanta, Philly, Shanghai

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That’s the only ones I feel are set in stone up there

hot heart
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Ye

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One really odd team is houstan

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And im worries about Toronto

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They could be 16th

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Or they could be 11th

tropic herald
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Houston Toronto and London are the teams that I’ve seen vary most

hot heart
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London could actuallt be decent

tropic herald
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Could

hot heart
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They've been given to much shit

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Yeah

tropic herald
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But they have sooo much unproven talent

hot heart
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But

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If they pull it off

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It could work out a bit

tropic herald
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They could make playins

hot heart
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Yeah

tropic herald
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I doubt playoffs

hot heart
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But thats at best

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At worst

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They are 19th in the league

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No one is worse than Boston

tropic herald
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Bottom 3 team is they can’t get it right

hot heart
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I will defend that until the day i die

tropic herald
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Boston could actually not be 20th but idk man

hot heart
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Maybe

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But munchkin

tropic herald
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Paris Eternal PepeLaugh

hot heart
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He's washes

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Ok paris are contenders for 20th

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But i could see them getting 17th or 16th

tropic herald
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Paris are just hoping that they don’t lose too much without Sparkle

hot heart
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Yeah

tropic herald
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And that sparkle doesn’t choke

hot heart
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They have to keep their shit together till may

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And Sp9rk1e has to be better than Sinatraa

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To even help this team a bit

tropic herald
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Though

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Paris coaches are kinda good

raw ermine
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12 thru 17 is a wild card

tropic herald
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True

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Actually

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I’d say Chengdu holds 12 good

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But below 12

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Idk man it’s the wild Wild West

hot heart
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Chengdu will do okay

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Washington

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Are done

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The new changes makes Corey unusable in most situations

celest spear
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The speedrunner has returned for a second attempt. OD to OWL, any % part 2

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raw ermine
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he will be on a team by the start of OWL

bright cypress
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7 day speedrun

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6*

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civic niche
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Pine should actually play this OWL season

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End of conversation

gaunt fox
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HURENSΓ–HNE

balmy wolf
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?

civic niche
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?

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You casting a curse on me? Because I like Pine? Lmao

balmy wolf
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pine left OWL to stream full time

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there is 0 chance he plays this year

civic niche
#

Really

balmy wolf
#

i’m surprised you haven’t heard about it

civic niche
#

Damn, that’s sad

balmy wolf
#

they announced it on twitter

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sad for sure, but better for him in the long run

civic niche
#

I’ve kinda ghosted Overwatch for a long time

balmy wolf
#

especially with hero pools coming and pine being a widow specialist

civic niche
#

It got boring, I was in elo hell and my laptop barely could get 40 FPS

balmy wolf
#

that’s fair, idk if i could’ve kept playing if i was stuck on 40 fps and bored out of my mind

civic niche
#

Tbh the only reason why I watched OWL was to watch Pine and JJonak work together

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Yeah it was a pain in the ass

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Now I got a new PC that I can play

raw ermine
#

Don't worry, there are many more hitscan extraordinaires in OWL, and Jjonak is still there

balmy wolf
#

you can always watch pine pop off on stream tho! he gets to play all his favorite heroes

civic niche
#

No not really OWL is just whoever plays the meta the best. Season one was very creative from each of the player season 2 was just boring because it was then start if ever team running goats. Now the introduced 2:2:2 and everyone plays Doom and Reaper. Nothing creative. R6 league is doing better because there is no meta and whoever you play is whoever you like

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That’s my Problem

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Season 1 was the best season so far. Because it was interesting

balmy wolf
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@civic niche you missed a lot

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you didnt watch the last developer update?

civic niche
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No, I told you I’ve kinda ghosted Overwatch for a long time. I was going to watch it but I completely forgot about it

balmy wolf
#

They introduced hero pools, so the meta wont be the same all the time

civic niche
#

They should be able to ban hero’s or maps. Or just amps to play on

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So it’s more interesting on who will be banned and how they are going to play

balmy wolf
#

they kinda did that with the hero and map pools

civic niche
#

Yeah

balmy wolf
#

with hero bans there would just be another banmeta

civic niche
#

Then I might watch it

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Hero bans would just be smart to introduce

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For comp and OWL

balmy wolf
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i dont like bans personally

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so im happy with the pools

civic niche
#

Yeah but it might be a last resort if metas come back. I hate metas just makes the game boring. That’s kinda why I quit.

balmy wolf
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pools are objectively better than bans imo

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and it effectively removes stale meta

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new meta every week

civic niche
#

If it’s new meta every week everyone wouldn’t be able to adjust. So it’s better that there is no meta at all

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And that’s why I’m stuck in bronze

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No it’s just I carry to hard and my team doesn’t do shit

balmy wolf
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lul

civic niche
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It’s the sad truth

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and when I play with a plat I carry them so hard

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That’s it’s easy

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But as a genji main I can just carry easily because of I DB it wouldn’t kill the team as fast as like a reaper ultimate

balmy wolf
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wait

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you werent kidding?

civic niche
#

Yeah I’m not kidding

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When I first started play I was like 11

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My phones about to die

balmy wolf
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I climbed to plat last season, if you can carry you can definitly climb

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But i never been in bronze so how do i know

civic niche
#

It’s so bad that it’s impossible to climb because everyone is so shit

hot heart
civic niche
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And the shit players are on my team. They feed and I can’t climb because they get ukts every team fight

balmy wolf
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get a 3stack or more and you can climb easily

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even if they have no skill just by communication

civic niche
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That’s also a probably I need people

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I have one that’s can help me carry

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He plays for MOWL

balmy wolf
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whats that?

civic niche
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Mock Overwatch League

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It’s like OWL but it’s the odd brand

balmy wolf
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never heard of that

civic niche
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Off*

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It’s fairly new

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He plays for Dallas Fuel

balmy wolf
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ye then play with him

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i play with some diamond friends to get to diamond

civic niche
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He is a tank main but he will go DPS to Help me climb

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I feel like I should friend you because my phone is going to die any minute now

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It’s. 1 and I’m not home on my PC

balmy wolf
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rip

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better get home then lol

civic niche
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I’m at a meeting and we are going for Lunch

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I’m not going to be home for a while

balmy wolf
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oh

civic niche
#

If you want to watch MOWL the Twitch is StripesTT

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It’s entertaining and you can join. It’s cool and creative

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But you have to be below diamond

balmy wolf
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ill try to watch it if i have time

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when is it on usually?

civic niche
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Like 5 weekends

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West

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It’s kinda odd for the times

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I will tell you when I get home and I can ask him. I would recommend watch the one that happened yesterday

balmy wolf
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ok thx ill take a look at that πŸ˜„

feral wing
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did anyone else see the clip of fissure wearing a jacket which said 'bumper' on the back?

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what a fucking chad

civic niche
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Lmao

haughty pecan
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if someone has the keys to get outta bronze please lemme know

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no matter how hard I try as soon as I get to a match that'll put me in silver I have a thrower so im stuck im comp quickplay forever

balmy wolf
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practice practice practice

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and try to think of your positioning, be aware of how vulnerable you are at all times

raw ermine
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1 week of school... then OWL

bright cypress
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if someone has the keys to get outta bronze please lemme know
@haughty pecan You gotta focus on carrying harder than their team. If youre on dps, play pharah, hitscans can't hit you

civic niche
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I can’t play pharah for shit

balmy wolf
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you can play characters like moira brig rein and winston if you aren’t too mechanically skilled, although this isn’t always advised because you wanna be able to play a wide host of characters at whatever rank you end up in

harsh fable
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Pharah in low rank if you’re good... god mode no one will hit you it took me a really long time to get even in to gold I don’t even bother with ranked really I was just checking channels out and saw that it stood out to me

bright cypress
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Even gold is kinda hard now

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I play mostly rein and now gold is prolly like diamond from a couple of years ago

karmic grotto
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Just 5 days left!

hot heart
karmic grotto
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TOO MUCH HYPE

hot heart
hot heart
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Can i have everyones opinion on Leave?

mint flower
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hes a god

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his doom against lunatic hai is sensational

hot heart
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Huh

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Would you compare him to haksal or sinatraa?

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@mint flower

mint flower
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if he plays like he did against LH, then going to say yes

tropic herald
#

Here’s my take

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Leave what do you play?

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Leave: Yes

celest spear
#

Leave is kinda swaggy

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not gonna lie

drifting sonnet
#

Hello whe its the ow league 2020 ?

grave sail
#

leave was immense at the wc

celest spear
#

It starts Saturday @drifting sonnet

drifting sonnet
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oh ok ty !

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so i go rebuy ow

grave sail
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i dont get how leaf hasnt been signed

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he was soooo good at the wc

drifting sonnet
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ok

short sparrow
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Fischer not signed here :'(

limber pine
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!!owl2020

young fractalBOT
rotund hollow
#

why did they remove Toronto defiants logo from genji's dagger

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it was a nice touch

jagged crater
#

where

hot heart
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What

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Why

daring prism
karmic grotto
jagged crater
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omg it's still loading make it stop!!!

raw ermine
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OMG

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||CRIMZO ON DALLAS||

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spoiler from the video

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wow

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He said he wasn't in OWL

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and lo and behold

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he is

karmic grotto
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Of course

tropic herald
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Pog

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I love him

raw ermine
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i am worried due to the high skill level of flex supports in OWL that he won't be as good

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Jjonak,Viol2t,Twilight,Kariv,Alarm,Myungbong, and more

jagged crater
#

he competing with unkoe

tropic herald
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He won’t be top tier but he’s definitely an upgrade

short sparrow
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FINALLY

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thank you dallas

blissful heron
#

crimzo's crazy

short sparrow
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is he two-way though?

blissful heron
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shu level

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and no

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unkoe and crimzo are incredible, that's not the problem there

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and gamsu was arguably a great pickup, with synergy with note as a bonus.

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if they can make it all gel they'll be good.

tropic herald
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Better than last year

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This roster is an improvement

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But the whole league got better

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So they’re going to miss playins again I fear

blissful heron
#

definitely. doha and decay were great adds, and akm and zach are gonna work harder. everyone wins, we'll see who starts. decay wasn't crazy good, but he was standout. i'd compare hin to colourhex.

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they'll go 13-15 i predict.

hot heart
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14 14

blissful heron
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oo hotter take than i

hot heart
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oo hotter take than i
@blissful heron Omegalul

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Medieval OWL hot takes

blissful heron
#

Felt like writing it like that what can I say

cold pier
#

why did they remove Toronto defiants logo from genji's dagger

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it was a nice touch

blissful heron
#

huh

worn cedar
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I'm so excited

blissful heron
#

mehyam

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poggers

hot heart
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Cool hoodie tho

worn cedar
#

I love it if only it wasn't too big at the bottom

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Even a S looks like a dress on me loo

rugged ember
#

do any of you guys think atlanta is overrated

tropic herald
#

Maybe

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But they my team

blissful heron
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their dps are crazy

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people sleeping on babybay especially

mint flower
#

so about crimzos twitlonger earlier this offseason where he said he wouldn't be in OWL
i wonder if fuel told him to do that as BS or if he got the offer later on after he posted the twitlonger

hidden vault
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Well only they know

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But as a result of this dallas scooped up crimzo fans

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I'm not sure about atlanta's support line actually

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I don't know anything about fire and kodak last season wasn't aggressive enough for the team

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And for tankline daco was dropped

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Better for teamwork definately but in terms of raw skills it's a minus

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I assume Erster and Edison is a great dps combo but I doubt babybay and sharP matches to them in the same way

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I think they are a shaky top 3 at best

karmic grotto
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DO NOT FORGET, it's the 8th of February

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4 days to go

balmy wolf
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@hidden vault Hawk is definitly an upgrade over daco

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and kodak was one of the best flex supports in all of contenders

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fire tho

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dont know much about him either

hidden vault
#

Hawk is better? Alrights that's cool

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But the season why kodak was dropped because he was the less aggressive zen compared to dogman

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I'll see how it plays out this season

balmy wolf
#

ye

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good thing that zen wont be played that much

sullen berry
hot heart
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Oo

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Im getting muted arent i

karmic grotto
#

probably

raw ermine
#

sick video

balmy wolf
#

anyone here reserved their seat in the paris arena for the upcoming matches of the new season ?

sullen berry
#

oh dude

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I'm about to go to bed and you tell me you're going to PARIS?

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my bets would be New York's home games will be some of the best

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with Guangzhou operating a ton of games, I can't wait until it's a lot safer to travel there

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I have family still planning to go in March despite the warnings of the Coronavirus in China

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which is going to make things super interesting on how these matches are going to be played (outside of china, most likely)

feral wing
#

so now that Onigod is playing on Team Envy, what are the odds that he will eventually get picked up for OWL?

sullen berry
#

not anytime soon, even if the odds are greater

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When Envy gets good enough to compete in the Gauntlet against Rival NA, Pacific and Korea players

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then his odds are much higher

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so long as their success this year depends on him

karmic grotto
#

Mayhem has a different colour, same as Valiant

limber pine
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@sullen berry are you going to submit that to the contest?

sullen berry
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yep

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minus the c9 ones ofc

limber pine
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nice

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lul

sullen berry
#

I'm eager to see how far it actually goes

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no memeing shanghai winning OWL season 1

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and hopefully games get tilted one way toward even the bottom teams geting more wins than last year

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which would mean good teams doing worse this season

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@limber pine question, do players who start this season but were signed last year count as "additions"?

limber pine
#

That means over the 2020 season

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so no

worn cedar
#

mayhem being A tier

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love that for me

hot heart
#

Ehh

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Mayhem better than fuel

limber pine
#

@worn cedar what are your standings

worn cedar
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I need to make them

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I didn't make them

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Do you want my actual standings or the ones I simply hope for

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ill do both

balmy wolf
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Mad man

karmic grotto
#

LOL

worn cedar
#

keep in mind that

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I did not watch OWL season 1 or 2 and I'm just basing this on like, general hearsay about the teams

#

i want shanghai and mayhem to swap but I know it wont happen PensiveDistort

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so I went and said hey

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maybe we will make it to playins at least.

balmy wolf
#

Thats a lot of faith in dallas you have there

short sparrow
#

General hearsay is Shock in play-ins?

worn cedar
#

well

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its a makeshift jerry rig

#

iirc shock would probably be playoffs?

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or worse

#

hey at least I knew dallas would be bottom 2

short sparrow
#

Shoch #1 seems seriously likely...

worn cedar
#

haaaa

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damn

#

I wish I knew more about the esports scene. All I do is organize the posts

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I dont really know much about predictions and stuff

#

But I will defo be watching this season

short sparrow
#

Dw, neither do I

worn cedar
#

I am so much more involved and excited for OWL 2020 than any other seaso

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I bought my mahem hoodie and I'm ready to be in bottom 3

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😀

hot heart
#

Watch casters

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If they have a twitch or YT

limber pine
#

@sullen berry that's a spicy Season MVP vote

raw ermine
#

Dallas better than shock? In no world does that happen

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In every power ranking I have seen, shock have been 1st and boston have been last

short sparrow
#

Jerry is WAY underrated

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(never watched him play btw)

limber pine
#

so who's underrating him?

supple prism
#

@worn cedar should watch Avast, he is an ex-owl player who has been doing power rankings on his own stream for last season and this season. I find him better at it than the current owl casters

karmic grotto
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@raw ermine not on my power rankings

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ATL Reign, as a fan, is #1

balmy wolf
#

@karmic grotto for sureAtlantaReign

limber pine
#

did @karmic grotto do picks

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imma go look

karmic grotto
#

Don't mind my Reign first, I have trust and faith in them

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As their roster video said, they need to defeat the enemy Shock

limber pine
#

7-16 seems to be the hardest to predict

#

the top 6 teams and the bottom 4 teams are generally similar

karmic grotto
#

This season will surprise us all. The new update coming soon to ranked and OWL will change how the game will be played

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I'm excited for it

little silo
#

Seems like almost every team has that one unknown that makes them super unpredictable

karmic grotto
#

Each team got new players

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That's why

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Fusion has ChipSa

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Or you have those teams that have unknown players

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looking at you London

little silo
#

Or teams that have known players that need to prove themselves again

karmic grotto
#

True

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Players who, with the new banning system, will be playing their main heroes again instead of Mei/Reaper/Doomfist

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I just hope, that even with the new system, OWL won't have a ban meta

#

Because that would mean that we go back the same stale meta each stage

balmy wolf
#

ban meta?

little silo
#

Since bans will change every 1-2 weeks the meta is very likely to change every cycle

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Teams cant ban its a pool

karmic grotto
#

True, but they said that no hero would be banned for 2 weeks

little silo
#

In a row yes

karmic grotto
#

Technically they can switch (after that 1/2 week)

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And you have the same comps

little silo
#

I think teams will try to perfect comps less and just play to their strengths this season

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But why would they switch every 1-2 weeks

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Pros play what they think is best and a whole league agreeing not to play something so it can be played next time seems unlikely

karmic grotto
#

One week dive, one week double shield, one week poke

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Or dive every 1-3, then double shield, 2-4

little silo
#

Didnt Jeff say that heroes would be adjusted slightly in between cycles

karmic grotto
#

yes

little silo
#

New patches hit OWL 2 weeks later so it shouldnt be one comp for long

karmic grotto
#

Finally, Torbjorn will be meta

little silo
#

Would be funny

sullen berry
#

A hitscan on torb

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And solider being meta over mccree or reaper

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Jake is missing out

woven hill
#

The turret is hitscan, so there's that

karmic grotto
#

finally

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ads

sullen berry
#

It's good that nyxl delivers the first impression

#

Their branding is on point and it leads by example

#

Despite how I feel about the New York ANDBOX marketing that will be going on all day

#

Also, if you haven't already - take a look at the New York Subliners and the CDL stream that will be live beforehand

celest spear
#

Hero Pools on PTR

raw ermine
#

ooh

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I gotta do HW but I wanna try this

celest spear
celest spear
#

Babybay: "Valiant is really good. They might be a dark horse."

raw ermine
#

Babybay is playing?

#

Erster-Edison seems strongest, but I guess they are fielding all of there players

raw ermine
#

I am on the PTR

#

Bap, Ball, Mccree, and genji are unavailable

#

what stats were they looking at? Genji????

balmy wolf
#

we don’t know if it’s random or if it’s based on stats

raw ermine
#

it changed mid-queue

languid imp
#

Hi how old should you be to play overwatch E-sports?

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Because I’m interested in getting in to it

raw ermine
#

well

#

Legally, you can be any age for anything below OWL

stiff warren
#

Are u sure about that

raw ermine
#

Sugarfree on atlanta academy is around 14

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in OWL, you must be at least 18

stiff warren
#

Cuz i would not join till grandmaster

raw ermine
#

in terms of skill

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the prime for most players is around 18

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where reaction is the faster

balmy wolf
#

nah thats bull

raw ermine
#

a bit older is fine

balmy wolf
#

your prime is not 18 for anything

raw ermine
#

but past 25 its iffy

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for Esports players

balmy wolf
#

thats a stigma towards players

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mid twenties and early 30's is actually you're prime physically and mentally

celest spear
#

Being 18 for OWL is due to legal reasons iirc

raw ermine
#

yeah

celest spear
tropic herald
#

Studies show that people’s reactions peak at 24

#

So around that point you cannot get any better

#

At a pro level

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And you start to fall off

#

Even though some of it is stigma

balmy wolf
#

reactions speed is small part of what makes someone a professional player

#

i agree w odyssey on this one

tropic herald
#

In eSports it matters a lot

balmy wolf
#

reaction speed isn’t a huge part of it imo

tropic herald
#

Well actually

#

Yeah

balmy wolf
#

it is but its not everything

tropic herald
#

But it doesn’t stop it from having a stigma of age

balmy wolf
#

just because your in your mid twenties doesnt mean u suddenly become dogshit

tropic herald
#

Less likely to get picked up

#

Bc hey x is old

balmy wolf
#

Most of the top csgo players are in their mid twenties

#

some of them have been at the top of their game for almost a decade

tropic herald
#

Whereas in OW that age pool is much smaller

#

And younger

balmy wolf
#

doesnt help that OW pro scene is arguably worse to stay in compared to other esport titles

tropic herald
#

Bc OW is much more mentally draining

#

And unrewarding

#

So you burn out fast

languid imp
#

Cool haha

#

Thanks for telling

languid imp
#

I’m teen ya

worn hornet
#

so...I'm seeing reports that Hangzhou is under quarantine now

tropic herald
#

City or team

worn hornet
#

Have we had any affirmation that the Spark's players are safe & healthy?

#

city

tropic herald
#

Every team in China is out of China

sullen berry
#

Who told you this?

hidden vault
#

His brain

#

Go to the teams' twitter site

#

They have the lastest and most accurate info

supple prism
karmic grotto
#

Aigt boys and girls... Seems like Valiant wasn't that bad of a team after all. Babybay confirming that Valiant is actually doing good. A dark horse.....

DON'T FORGOT TO HYPE YOURSELF UP. 3 DAYS REMAINING!

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digital brook
#

will there be league tokens for the start of the season?

gaunt acorn
#

@digital brook no official announcement has been made yet

hot heart
mint flower
#

plz blizz