#esports-discussion | Overwatch | Page 1819

sullen berry Jan 24, 2020, 9:25 PM

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For the sake of broadcasting

sweet scaffold Jan 24, 2020, 9:27 PM

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It sounds like a terrible idea to send their eSports league out to die.

sullen berry Jan 24, 2020, 9:29 PM

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What are they going to do, cut costs? /s

balmy wolf Jan 24, 2020, 9:30 PM

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There was more incentive to watch it on Twitch, such as unlocking emotes and earning tokens.

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I'm sure they'll get tokens working with YouTube Gaming but there is so much stuff that won't carry over into YouTube and features that don't exist there.

worn cedar Jan 24, 2020, 9:37 PM

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I'm really not a fan of twitch myself and like yt more as a platform so personally I'm way more likely to watch on yt gaming

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but I'm a minority

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blul

bright cypress Jan 24, 2020, 9:45 PM

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If yt had emotes, I'd be all for it

static bluff Jan 24, 2020, 9:46 PM

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Youtube Gaming OWL 👉 📉 PepeLaugh

worn cedar Jan 24, 2020, 9:46 PM

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A surely lacking thing

celest spear Jan 24, 2020, 9:46 PM

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https://twitter.com/MonteCristo/status/1220820311592992768?s=20

MonteCristo (@MonteCristo)

This is serious big dick energy from Google to become an actual competitor to Twitch.

I also don’t think it will have a large effect on viewership for OWL since YouTube is much bigger for the younger generation than Twitch. Gen Z loves YouTube.

worn cedar Jan 24, 2020, 9:46 PM

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I suppose as a streamer I see it a tad differently than as a regular stream viewer

celest spear Jan 24, 2020, 9:46 PM

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https://twitter.com/MarcelFeldkamp/status/1220821288199081984?s=20

Marcel Feldkamp (@MarcelFeldkamp)

@MonteCristo Youtube had more peak concurrent viewers than Twitch for Worlds 2019

h/t @EsportsCharts

worn cedar Jan 24, 2020, 9:46 PM

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but if I watch streams I usually do it on yt anyway

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I just dont really love twitch. the only time I use twitch is to watch agdq

mint flower Jan 24, 2020, 9:47 PM

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i also use YT more than twitch, but im not a fan of their streaming system

worn cedar Jan 24, 2020, 9:47 PM

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yt has a lot of places they could improve yeah

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hopefully for owl it will be an actually more pleasant experience

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they know they're making a polarizing decision

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we can only hope it pays off

mint flower Jan 24, 2020, 9:47 PM

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if they can improve the streaming, then yea, im totally fine with it

worn cedar Jan 24, 2020, 9:48 PM

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yt taking over AsheBlush

karmic grotto Jan 24, 2020, 9:48 PM

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But

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Will we have to pay for it?

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And if so, how?

worn cedar Jan 24, 2020, 9:48 PM

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usually youtube streams are free

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are they not?

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if we had to pay they'd likely have said by now

karmic grotto Jan 24, 2020, 9:49 PM

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Yes, but if they are going to implement a streaming service like twitch had

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Who will pay the costs?

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Multiple pov

worn cedar Jan 24, 2020, 9:49 PM

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https://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/activision-blizzard-and-google-enter-into-multi-year-strategic-relationship-to-power-new-player-experiences-300993016.html?tc=eml_cleartime for more info

tropic herald Jan 24, 2020, 9:49 PM

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Maybe this pushes twitch to not have shitty moderation with all their bans and people they don’t ban

sweet scaffold Jan 24, 2020, 9:49 PM

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I find YouTube Gaming streams to crash on me.

tropic herald Jan 24, 2020, 9:50 PM

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There will be a ~15 dollar pass you can get for the season

worn cedar Jan 24, 2020, 9:51 PM

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about the partnership perhaps and any details surrounding it

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seems they have more info coming soon

sweet scaffold Jan 24, 2020, 9:51 PM

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I mostly care about having a stable stream. Mixer and Twitch offer me that.

worn cedar Jan 24, 2020, 9:52 PM

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I've never crashed on streaming end as a streamer, nor have I seen any streams crash myself but I'm not too familiar with that sort of stuff

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hopefully since theyre higher production quality they will get precedence

sweet scaffold Jan 24, 2020, 9:52 PM

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YouTube Gaming keeps stuttering and crashes on me, and I’ve given up after a month of trying.

worn cedar Jan 24, 2020, 9:52 PM

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and not have those sorts of issues

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it could be because yt does not cap bitrate the same way twitch does

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twitch was often annoying to me because i could not go over a certain bitrate

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and your internet can't handle consistently downloading that bitrate

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I'd guess it is that

sweet scaffold Jan 24, 2020, 9:53 PM

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I never had a problem with watching their videos. But it’s their streams that are pretty atrocious.

balmy wolf Jan 24, 2020, 9:54 PM

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people playing comp in different kind of games, and u like to chat and chill? dm me!

worn cedar Jan 24, 2020, 9:54 PM

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yes because streams and videos are different

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videos are buffered

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streams are live and require a consistent download generally

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i wonder if user can cap bitrate on yt

karmic grotto Jan 24, 2020, 9:57 PM

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So the CoD League is going to start today

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Good way to see how it's going to be

dusty sapphire Jan 24, 2020, 10:00 PM

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OmegaLUL OWL killed itself

deep parrot Jan 24, 2020, 10:02 PM

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I don't think OWL is dead

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If anything OWL just saved itself

tropic herald Jan 24, 2020, 10:02 PM

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Idk

deep parrot Jan 24, 2020, 10:02 PM

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It's going to appear in recommendations of people who watch OW content creators

tropic herald Jan 24, 2020, 10:02 PM

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YT isn’t a bad platform for streaming

deep parrot Jan 24, 2020, 10:02 PM

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And it's gonna be right there

tropic herald Jan 24, 2020, 10:02 PM

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Except you still can’t clip

deep parrot Jan 24, 2020, 10:03 PM

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If you could clip and have custom emotes without joining to become a channel member

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YouTube streaming would immediately probably overtake twitch

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But YouTube streaming right now doesn't provide the same experience that twitch does

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So twitch is better for quality of stream

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But if you need viewers, then streaming on YT is a must

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And that's exactly what OWL needs

raw ermine Jan 24, 2020, 10:05 PM

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so, all in all we're not totally screwed?

static bluff Jan 24, 2020, 10:05 PM

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Do we get to keep our emotes that we earned?

deep parrot Jan 24, 2020, 10:06 PM

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@raw ermine I actually think the move will boost OWL's popularity considerably, but no one can tell yet

tropic herald Jan 24, 2020, 10:07 PM

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The emotes are probably lost

deep parrot Jan 24, 2020, 10:07 PM

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We'll just have to wait and see

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Yeah the emotes are definitely lost

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They cut contract

tropic herald Jan 24, 2020, 10:07 PM

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I don’t know how they would transfer them as YT doesn’t have a good emote system

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They didn’t cut

balmy wolf Jan 24, 2020, 10:07 PM

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Its just emotes

deep parrot Jan 24, 2020, 10:07 PM

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They didn't ?

balmy wolf Jan 24, 2020, 10:07 PM

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The stream itself is important

tropic herald Jan 24, 2020, 10:07 PM

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The contract ended

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Twitch contract was only 2 seasons iirc

deep parrot Jan 24, 2020, 10:08 PM

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Also, YT has a much higher viewership than Twitch

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Like I only go to twitch once or twice a day

tropic herald Jan 24, 2020, 10:08 PM

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YT is mainstream

raw ermine Jan 24, 2020, 10:08 PM

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I am all day on YT

deep parrot Jan 24, 2020, 10:08 PM

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But when I open my browser, YouTube is the first link it recommends to me

raw ermine Jan 24, 2020, 10:08 PM

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and and at school

tropic herald Jan 24, 2020, 10:08 PM

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I like Twitch but YT is clearly more popular

deep parrot Jan 24, 2020, 10:08 PM

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So I have a feeling this move will be amazing for OWL

feral wing Jan 24, 2020, 10:09 PM

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okay so can someone give me a rundown of pros and cons of this youtube gaming swap?

tropic herald Jan 24, 2020, 10:09 PM

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And they are partnered right?

balmy wolf Jan 24, 2020, 10:10 PM

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Saved itself? Interesting

raw ermine Jan 24, 2020, 10:10 PM

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pros:
much more viewership, bigger platform
more money for OWL cause YT is rich
Cons:
No useful streaming features like emotes and clipping
Ppl won't watch out of spite

deep parrot Jan 24, 2020, 10:10 PM

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@feral wing

Pros:
Higher Viewership
More money to league
More advertising for the league, more notice
Mainstream

Cons:
No emotes
No clips
Chat quality significantly decreased

balmy wolf Jan 24, 2020, 10:10 PM

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You lose Twitch culture on stream though

raw ermine Jan 24, 2020, 10:10 PM

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feel free to give me more

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chat quality?

feral wing Jan 24, 2020, 10:11 PM

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yeah the twitch culture is something i will miss

raw ermine Jan 24, 2020, 10:11 PM

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bro twitch chat is cancer

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jk

feral wing Jan 24, 2020, 10:11 PM

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the pogchamps and stuff

deep parrot Jan 24, 2020, 10:11 PM

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Chat quality

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YT chat sucks if I'm being honest

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It doesn't refresh as often

feral wing Jan 24, 2020, 10:11 PM

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is there an extension sorta like frankerfacez which works for youtube?

deep parrot Jan 24, 2020, 10:11 PM

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So faster chats lag out

feral wing Jan 24, 2020, 10:12 PM

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and what will happen to the all access pass?

deep parrot Jan 24, 2020, 10:12 PM

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Like xQc's chat would literally kill YouTube

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That's a good question

balmy wolf Jan 24, 2020, 10:12 PM

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Bits/cheers, sub gifts, leaderboards, etc.

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i never really liked OWL twitch chat anyway so i don’t rly mind the change

trail bridge Jan 24, 2020, 10:12 PM

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what about owl tokens from stream now

balmy wolf Jan 24, 2020, 10:12 PM

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You also won't get a seperate chat room for pass owners like you have with Twitch

trail bridge Jan 24, 2020, 10:12 PM

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you cant connect bnet to youtube right

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so are they just ditching owl tokens

feral wing Jan 24, 2020, 10:13 PM

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you can

trail bridge Jan 24, 2020, 10:13 PM

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oh

balmy wolf Jan 24, 2020, 10:13 PM

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Dunno, but I'm sure they'll work it out now that they are working with YT

deep parrot Jan 24, 2020, 10:13 PM

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I'm sure YT will significantly overhaul it

trail bridge Jan 24, 2020, 10:13 PM

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i still cant figure out how much they got paid

balmy wolf Jan 24, 2020, 10:13 PM

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Wouldn't be too hard to add connections for Bnet

trail bridge Jan 24, 2020, 10:13 PM

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it has to be like

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billions

balmy wolf Jan 24, 2020, 10:13 PM

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also tho twitch is kinda anti mainstream, when you go to chat you see a bunch of random lines of text and you don’t know what they mean if u don’t have bttv installed and shit

trail bridge Jan 24, 2020, 10:14 PM

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now we type J 😂 K E

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instead

balmy wolf Jan 24, 2020, 10:14 PM

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i rly think yt will increase the mainstream audience

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which is a good thing

feral wing Jan 24, 2020, 10:14 PM

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😱

trail bridge Jan 24, 2020, 10:14 PM

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its weird with ow tho

feral wing Jan 24, 2020, 10:14 PM

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POGCHAMP

trail bridge Jan 24, 2020, 10:14 PM

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because most people from mainstream see the game

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a bunch of flashing colours

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and dont get interested

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different to games like csgo where you can grasp the concept in like 5 minutes of watching

feral wing Jan 24, 2020, 10:15 PM

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but what will happen to the all access pass?

balmy wolf Jan 24, 2020, 10:15 PM

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you’re right

trail bridge Jan 24, 2020, 10:15 PM

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well youtube has that supporter / join thing

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maybe that will become the pass

balmy wolf Jan 24, 2020, 10:15 PM

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but then again i don’t know wtf is going on when i watch league of legends and look how big that game is

trail bridge Jan 24, 2020, 10:15 PM

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who knows

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true

feral wing Jan 24, 2020, 10:15 PM

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i kinda know how league works

trail bridge Jan 24, 2020, 10:15 PM

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but league has a larger player base too doesnt it

feral wing Jan 24, 2020, 10:15 PM

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have never played it tho

balmy wolf Jan 24, 2020, 10:16 PM

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it does

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definitely does

trail bridge Jan 24, 2020, 10:16 PM

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67m monthly

feral wing Jan 24, 2020, 10:16 PM

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i dont know any heroes or anything from league of legends and when i try to watch that

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well

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i cant

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its impossible for me to watch

trail bridge Jan 24, 2020, 10:16 PM

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yeah

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i cant watch league but the game looks cool i guess

balmy wolf Jan 24, 2020, 10:16 PM

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same but imo overwatch is much easier to get into

feral wing Jan 24, 2020, 10:16 PM

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overwatch is much easier to watch, follow and learn

trail bridge Jan 24, 2020, 10:16 PM

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usually i just go PogU whats happening

feral wing Jan 24, 2020, 10:16 PM

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my reaction is more of a

balmy wolf Jan 24, 2020, 10:16 PM

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also if hitscan characters become meta it becomes easier to watch, its simple to see shoot in the head to win

feral wing Jan 24, 2020, 10:16 PM

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HYPERDANSGAMEW

balmy wolf Jan 24, 2020, 10:17 PM

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and with all the new balance updates and a seeming shift in blizzard philosophy we might just have things go right for once

trail bridge Jan 24, 2020, 10:18 PM

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i hope the game does better on youtube

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because i most likely wont make the switch

feral wing Jan 24, 2020, 10:18 PM

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?

trail bridge Jan 24, 2020, 10:18 PM

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even tho i use youtube more than twitch probably

feral wing Jan 24, 2020, 10:18 PM

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its not much of a switch

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just watch on youtube

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..

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for me its easier

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i basically only use twitch for owl

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so now its a lot easier

trail bridge Jan 24, 2020, 10:18 PM

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ive never been interested in youtube streams as much as twitch

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might be the chat

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it just always seemed off

mint flower Jan 24, 2020, 10:18 PM

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same other than owl i never use twitch

balmy wolf Jan 24, 2020, 10:18 PM

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you watch OWL for the chat?

trail bridge Jan 24, 2020, 10:19 PM

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of course not

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but

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chat is a part of it

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as with every stream

feral wing Jan 24, 2020, 10:19 PM

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i usually watch in fullscreen and then go into windowed when something pog happens to see the chat reaction

mint flower Jan 24, 2020, 10:19 PM

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i look at chat occasionally

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like every 20 min or so

balmy wolf Jan 24, 2020, 10:19 PM

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hm i just go fullscreen as well so i couldn’t care less

serene kraken Jan 24, 2020, 10:19 PM

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yo with the yt thing does that mean they're not gonna stream on twitch anymore

trail bridge Jan 24, 2020, 10:19 PM

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they signed a deal

balmy wolf Jan 24, 2020, 10:19 PM

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imo it’s always just some bad copypasta but to each his own

trail bridge Jan 24, 2020, 10:19 PM

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i dont think theyre allowed to twitch stream

serene kraken Jan 24, 2020, 10:19 PM

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bruh

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bought the pass thing for the grand finals

cedar salmon Jan 24, 2020, 10:20 PM

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Bonus is that I can watch it on my TV again now cuz' Twitch were jackholes and got the twitch app deleted

serene kraken Jan 24, 2020, 10:20 PM

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not epic

trail bridge Jan 24, 2020, 10:20 PM

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blizz wouldnt just move to youtube for free

feral wing Jan 24, 2020, 10:20 PM

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youtube must have contacted owl about it

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they have said they want to invest in their streaming side more

trail bridge Jan 24, 2020, 10:20 PM

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yeah most likely

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since they picked up a bunch of streamers

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and they have no big esports

feral wing Jan 24, 2020, 10:20 PM

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yeah

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now they have one of the bigger esports

trail bridge Jan 24, 2020, 10:21 PM

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still i think there were much better picks than ow

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in terms of rising esports

feral wing Jan 24, 2020, 10:21 PM

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meh

trail bridge Jan 24, 2020, 10:21 PM

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ow is getting near its peak at this point

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if it hasnt already

feral wing Jan 24, 2020, 10:21 PM

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if you say fortnite i will rage quit this chat

mint flower Jan 24, 2020, 10:21 PM

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lmao

trail bridge Jan 24, 2020, 10:21 PM

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fortnite wouldnt take a deal anyway

feral wing Jan 24, 2020, 10:21 PM

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its not an esport

trail bridge Jan 24, 2020, 10:21 PM

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why do you say that

feral wing Jan 24, 2020, 10:22 PM

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this channel is meant for overwatch esports discussion so if you want to discuss that we have to do it somewhere else

trail bridge Jan 24, 2020, 10:22 PM

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fair

feral wing Jan 24, 2020, 10:22 PM

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i could quickly give a rundown of the reasons why and hope the mods have mercy

balmy wolf Jan 24, 2020, 10:22 PM

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who could they get?

velvet scarab Jan 24, 2020, 10:22 PM

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rip owl OMEGALUL

balmy wolf Jan 24, 2020, 10:23 PM

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who could they get?

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i have a feeling league wouldn’t go for a deal

trail bridge Jan 24, 2020, 10:23 PM

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i mean apex is starting to build its rep back

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it would definitely be a safer deal

feral wing Jan 24, 2020, 10:23 PM

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nah

trail bridge Jan 24, 2020, 10:23 PM

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considering what they probably payed ow

feral wing Jan 24, 2020, 10:23 PM

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apex has a much smaller fanbase

trail bridge Jan 24, 2020, 10:24 PM

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i just feel like this deal isnt gonna be long term profit for youtube

feral wing Jan 24, 2020, 10:24 PM

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that depends

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if owl succeeds this season

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then it will be amazing for youtube

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this season is a make or break for owl

trail bridge Jan 24, 2020, 10:24 PM

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they would have to rewrite the whole meta to make it easier for mainstreamers to understand

balmy wolf Jan 24, 2020, 10:25 PM

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OWL is still a decently sized esport, regardless of the people saying it’s dead

feral wing Jan 24, 2020, 10:25 PM

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even the crew of owl have dubbed it the make or break season

trail bridge Jan 24, 2020, 10:25 PM

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yeah its definitely not doing bad

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but i just dont think its worth the money

feral wing Jan 24, 2020, 10:25 PM

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its one of the biggest esports

balmy wolf Jan 24, 2020, 10:25 PM

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you don’t even know how much they paid

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how can you say it’s worth

trail bridge Jan 24, 2020, 10:25 PM

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blizz is a billion dollar company

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they wouldnt take a light deal

feral wing Jan 24, 2020, 10:25 PM

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i can think of maybe 4-5 esports bigger than it

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league and dota come to mind immediately

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maybe counter strike

balmy wolf Jan 24, 2020, 10:26 PM

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OWL also has the best mainstream appeal of all of those

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csgo the terrorist shit doesn’t really fly

trail bridge Jan 24, 2020, 10:26 PM

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csgo definitely has better mainstream appeal i think

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way easier to understand

feral wing Jan 24, 2020, 10:26 PM

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csgo is the easiest to understand yeah

balmy wolf Jan 24, 2020, 10:26 PM

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on that area yes

feral wing Jan 24, 2020, 10:27 PM

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but we're talking about the size of the esport

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again

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i can only really name

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2 possibly 3 esports

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bigger than owl

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i might be forgetting some though

trail bridge Jan 24, 2020, 10:27 PM

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cs league and dota are all bigger

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for sure

balmy wolf Jan 24, 2020, 10:27 PM

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yes

trail bridge Jan 24, 2020, 10:27 PM

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thats prob it

feral wing Jan 24, 2020, 10:27 PM

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cs:go is probably bigger but it might also not be

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i honestly dont know

trail bridge Jan 24, 2020, 10:27 PM

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csgo is way bigger

feral wing Jan 24, 2020, 10:27 PM

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i know owl was way bigger before

balmy wolf Jan 24, 2020, 10:27 PM

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also have you ever considered that maybe no other esports wanted a deal from youtube?

feral wing Jan 24, 2020, 10:28 PM

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but suddenly csgo made a major comeback

trail bridge Jan 24, 2020, 10:28 PM

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because they probably know twitch is a better platform for them

balmy wolf Jan 24, 2020, 10:28 PM

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big esports**

feral wing Jan 24, 2020, 10:28 PM

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and the game was on top of twitch for weeks on end

balmy wolf Jan 24, 2020, 10:28 PM

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yeah it’s a big risk

feral wing Jan 24, 2020, 10:28 PM

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so at this point i dont know

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but my point still stands

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overwatch is one of the biggest esports

trail bridge Jan 24, 2020, 10:28 PM

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csgo never made a major comeback

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theyve always been big

feral wing Jan 24, 2020, 10:28 PM

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its always been big

trail bridge Jan 24, 2020, 10:28 PM

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especially during finals of any stage

balmy wolf Jan 24, 2020, 10:28 PM

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overwatch is one of the biggest esports for sure

feral wing Jan 24, 2020, 10:28 PM

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but it was falling off a bit for a while

balmy wolf Jan 24, 2020, 10:29 PM

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regardless of csgo

feral wing Jan 24, 2020, 10:29 PM

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and then suddenly it turned it around

trail bridge Jan 24, 2020, 10:29 PM

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idk i think you were just looking at smaller tourneys

feral wing Jan 24, 2020, 10:29 PM

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i dont know why

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i dont follow csgo esports that much

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i also wouldnt say csgo is way bigger in esports

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its bigger

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but not way bigger

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league is way bigger

balmy wolf Jan 24, 2020, 10:29 PM

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also don’t forget blizzard added the COD league in the deal as well

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and call of duty is major mainstream

feral wing Jan 24, 2020, 10:30 PM

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out of those 4 esports i mentioned

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i would say overwatch would be the best to pick up for investment

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csgo, league and dota are all old and established esports

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owl is relatively new and can still grow more

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not to mention the insane costs of getting exclusive streaming rights to league and dota

balmy wolf Jan 24, 2020, 10:31 PM

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i agree

feral wing Jan 24, 2020, 10:31 PM

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and considering

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how overwatch league and other esports are growing

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league and dota could even fall off a bit

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overwatch is just the safest and best pick they couldve gone with in my eyes

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if overwatch league succeeds this season then it will all pay off

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and i think overwatch league will succeed

balmy wolf Jan 24, 2020, 10:33 PM

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eh will it blow everyone away no but it will do okay

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ppl just love spreading this insane image of a dead league with no hope for the future

tropic herald Jan 24, 2020, 10:34 PM

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As long as OWL doesn’t crash and burn this season, it should have longevity

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But they still need to support T2 more

balmy wolf Jan 24, 2020, 10:34 PM

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this season certainly will be a special one

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AGREED

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T2 is terrible

bronze scroll Jan 24, 2020, 10:34 PM

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so, i guess that some discord thing will now be the "twitch chat" so we can at least post emotes?

balmy wolf Jan 24, 2020, 10:35 PM

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yeah who knows

bronze scroll Jan 24, 2020, 10:36 PM

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that would actually be kinda nice. Maybe we should ask the admins for a streamchat?

tropic herald Jan 24, 2020, 10:37 PM

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Generally just hop in one of the general voice chats

limber pine Jan 24, 2020, 10:57 PM

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So

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OWL on YTG

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That’s fun

echo fog Jan 24, 2020, 10:58 PM

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better bitrate but worse viewership

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no reason to watch if no in-game drops

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also all that wasted twitch money on emotes and stuff

limber pine Jan 24, 2020, 10:58 PM

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We don’t know there won’t be

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Somebody said Fortnite has drops?

echo fog Jan 24, 2020, 10:59 PM

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🤔

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I mean it would be awesome if it did

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I didn't watch all the matches last season, only the important ones

worn cedar Jan 24, 2020, 10:59 PM

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I cant imagine them not having drops

limber pine Jan 24, 2020, 11:01 PM

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https://twitter.com/MarcelFeldkamp/status/1220821288199081984?s=20

Marcel Feldkamp (@MarcelFeldkamp)

@MonteCristo Youtube had more peak concurrent viewers than Twitch for Worlds 2019

h/t @EsportsCharts

echo fog Jan 24, 2020, 11:01 PM

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you know that "multi-year deal" was worth the money for owl

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but who knows

tropic herald Jan 24, 2020, 11:07 PM

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Amazon Stocks AFrog

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Google Stocks PogChimp

hot heart Jan 24, 2020, 11:08 PM

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The fuck

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Is this new deal

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Why youtube

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Anyone with a few brain cells could see where OWL is going

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Why would they do this

low stone Jan 24, 2020, 11:09 PM

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you son of a bitch

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Im not in

bright cypress Jan 24, 2020, 11:10 PM

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Why do people have such low perceptions of YouTube?

low stone Jan 24, 2020, 11:10 PM

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youtube streaming is and has been a joke for years now

bright cypress Jan 24, 2020, 11:11 PM

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But they're doing a full revamp to their streaking service

tropic herald Jan 24, 2020, 11:11 PM

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It’s got better viewers though

bright cypress Jan 24, 2020, 11:11 PM

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To make it better and stuff

tropic herald Jan 24, 2020, 11:11 PM

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YT has been growing much faster

bright cypress Jan 24, 2020, 11:11 PM

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Streaming*

worn cedar Jan 24, 2020, 11:11 PM

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Honestly yt streaming quality is better than twitch

tropic herald Jan 24, 2020, 11:11 PM

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Plus there is unrest with how Twitch has been recently

worn cedar Jan 24, 2020, 11:12 PM

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Higher bitrate and they've long since been better for small streamers to get a viewership

tropic herald Jan 24, 2020, 11:12 PM

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Twitch has a seemingly liquid ToS that makes people mad

worn cedar Jan 24, 2020, 11:12 PM

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At least in my experience

low stone Jan 24, 2020, 11:12 PM

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and youtube doesnt. empathy?

tropic herald Jan 24, 2020, 11:12 PM

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Idk

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Less liquid than Twitch at least

bright cypress Jan 24, 2020, 11:12 PM

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Yeah, random bans aren't as bad

echo fog Jan 24, 2020, 11:12 PM

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Yes youtube is "better", but Twitch has a better viewerbase since it has always been the first large and primary streaming platform

bright cypress Jan 24, 2020, 11:12 PM

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On yt

tropic herald Jan 24, 2020, 11:13 PM

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Define better @echo fog

low stone Jan 24, 2020, 11:13 PM

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tbh OWL probably shouldnt be "exclusively streaming" on any one site

echo fog Jan 24, 2020, 11:13 PM

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bitrate, ToS

worn cedar Jan 24, 2020, 11:13 PM

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I like yt more

echo fog Jan 24, 2020, 11:13 PM

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@tropic herald

worn cedar Jan 24, 2020, 11:13 PM

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So I'll be watching yt this year with no issues

tropic herald Jan 24, 2020, 11:13 PM

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TOS?

low stone Jan 24, 2020, 11:13 PM

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idk maybe the money for the exclusive rights is godly but

bright cypress Jan 24, 2020, 11:13 PM

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Just cuz Myspace was the firat doesn't mean it cant be improved

tropic herald Jan 24, 2020, 11:13 PM

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Wait

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Wrong thing

worn cedar Jan 24, 2020, 11:13 PM

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Twitch kinda sucks on mobile too

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Huuuuge detractor

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Having to be logged in and stuff

tropic herald Jan 24, 2020, 11:13 PM

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Define better viewrbase, to clarify @echo fog

worn cedar Jan 24, 2020, 11:13 PM

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Less accessible

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Yt has a larger viewerbase

echo fog Jan 24, 2020, 11:14 PM

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not true @worn cedar

worn cedar Jan 24, 2020, 11:14 PM

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See sprites post

echo fog Jan 24, 2020, 11:14 PM

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consistent viewers are fewer

worn cedar Jan 24, 2020, 11:14 PM

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https://discordapp.com/channels/94882524378968064/233904315247362048/670402746398015499

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Up here

tropic herald Jan 24, 2020, 11:14 PM

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YT had more concurrent viewers at Worlds

low stone Jan 24, 2020, 11:14 PM

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no yt definitely has more people on the site, just way less interested in this stuff

echo fog Jan 24, 2020, 11:14 PM

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^

tropic herald Jan 24, 2020, 11:15 PM

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If OWL got a good deal, every stream will be featured on the main gaming page

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People will click it

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And then see this game

bright cypress Jan 24, 2020, 11:15 PM

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Agreed, and more money is good

tropic herald Jan 24, 2020, 11:15 PM

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Which is a downside

low stone Jan 24, 2020, 11:15 PM

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and then get 2 as back to back and click off

bright cypress Jan 24, 2020, 11:15 PM

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Cuz more money equals longer owl

low stone Jan 24, 2020, 11:15 PM

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ads*

tropic herald Jan 24, 2020, 11:15 PM

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You still have ads on Twitch

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Especially OWL without the pass

echo fog Jan 24, 2020, 11:16 PM

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I am under the assumption there will be no all-access pass?

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could be wrong on that

low stone Jan 24, 2020, 11:16 PM

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oh fuck thats right

tropic herald Jan 24, 2020, 11:16 PM

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It will be some form of membership to the page I think

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They have something like that on YT

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Channel member iirc

low stone Jan 24, 2020, 11:16 PM

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that system has always been wonky, unless they revamp it for this it could be a shitshow

tropic herald Jan 24, 2020, 11:17 PM

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Yeah idk

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This deal was good for OWL imo

echo fog Jan 24, 2020, 11:17 PM

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All-access pass was for a full season. It's not a regular sub like on twitch

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for yt that's not a thing

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maybe yt will add it

tropic herald Jan 24, 2020, 11:18 PM

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We should know the full logistics in 2 weeks

low stone Jan 24, 2020, 11:18 PM

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why would they bother if itll probably make more money without changing it

echo fog Jan 24, 2020, 11:18 PM

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that moment when they make the all-access pass the default for everyone in 2020

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all the benefits are now the normal

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got that yt money so they can afford it

low stone Jan 24, 2020, 11:19 PM

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lol no way I get OW tokens for free

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on that level anyway

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doncha get like 500 tokens for being all access or

tropic herald Jan 24, 2020, 11:19 PM

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Ughhh

bright cypress Jan 24, 2020, 11:19 PM

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There is a revamp coming for multi camera straming

tropic herald Jan 24, 2020, 11:19 PM

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We have to connect our bnet to google now

worn cedar Jan 24, 2020, 11:19 PM

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Mmm I'm excited

low stone Jan 24, 2020, 11:21 PM

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oof now Im gonna have to subscribe to the OWL youtube channel with 90% shit I do not care about

hot heart Jan 24, 2020, 11:21 PM

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YouTube is good

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I watch youtube more than twitch

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But

worn cedar Jan 24, 2020, 11:21 PM

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Eh you can just get notifs for stream alerts

echo fog Jan 24, 2020, 11:21 PM

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I feel like I may want to just make a new YT for this honestly lol

worn cedar Jan 24, 2020, 11:21 PM

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Plus we will post every match

hot heart Jan 24, 2020, 11:22 PM

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Twitch to YT?

worn cedar Jan 24, 2020, 11:22 PM

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Or every schedule that is

hot heart Jan 24, 2020, 11:22 PM

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What even are you doing

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If the viewera dont move

worn cedar Jan 24, 2020, 11:22 PM

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I think they'll manage it well

echo fog Jan 24, 2020, 11:22 PM

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it's exclusive to youtube now

hot heart Jan 24, 2020, 11:22 PM

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Thats it

worn cedar Jan 24, 2020, 11:22 PM

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Keep a positive outlook

hot heart Jan 24, 2020, 11:22 PM

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If they do

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Its a good change for OWL

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Alot more people on YT

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And better playform overall

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Good start

tropic herald Jan 24, 2020, 11:23 PM

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This is so much better than Mixer or Facebook tbf

hot heart Jan 24, 2020, 11:23 PM

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Yeah

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Mixer is jusy

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Awful

low stone Jan 24, 2020, 11:23 PM

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lol OWL was NEVER gonna sign on for only mixer or facebook

tropic herald Jan 24, 2020, 11:23 PM

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Remember

hot heart Jan 24, 2020, 11:23 PM

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And facebook is Facebook

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Dead

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Yeah

tropic herald Jan 24, 2020, 11:23 PM

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The inventor of esports is on Facebook

hot heart Jan 24, 2020, 11:23 PM

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True

low stone Jan 24, 2020, 11:23 PM

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I question this decision but it would be batshit insane to go there

hot heart Jan 24, 2020, 11:23 PM

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Jayne WidowLUL

echo fog Jan 24, 2020, 11:24 PM

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I think it was a smart idea to go to YT for general security reasons, phat YT money, and the better bitrate. I have no idea how viewerbase will be impacted but who knows. Changing from Twitch to Youtube is a little risky in that regard

balmy wolf Jan 24, 2020, 11:24 PM

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twitch does not have the status of being the one the most viewed websites on the world

tropic herald Jan 24, 2020, 11:24 PM

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Viewers will stay consistent if not go up

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Also

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Better times for CN and Korea

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So that’s huge

balmy wolf Jan 24, 2020, 11:25 PM

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The video player for youtube is arguably one the best

low stone Jan 24, 2020, 11:25 PM

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4 ads in a row say otherwise

jagged crater Jan 24, 2020, 11:26 PM

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How are youtube accounts linked? Just email?

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For the token drops

tropic herald Jan 24, 2020, 11:26 PM

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Probably just like twitch

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Connect it through the site

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Or through blizzard

low stone Jan 24, 2020, 11:27 PM

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from what I know youtube doesnt have that feature all set up yet

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assuming they even will

celest spear Jan 24, 2020, 11:27 PM

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https://www.reddit.com/r/Competitiveoverwatch/comments/etifim/there_is_some_spicy_overwatch_stuff_coming_out/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share

"There is some spicy overwatch stuff coming out" xQc signed a NDA ...

Posted in r/Competitiveoverwatch by u/snow17_ • 11 points and 5 comments

low stone Jan 24, 2020, 11:27 PM

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who knows maybe free tokens will be removed

jagged crater Jan 24, 2020, 11:27 PM

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Ripperino

tropic herald Jan 24, 2020, 11:27 PM

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They have NDAs now lol

low stone Jan 24, 2020, 11:28 PM

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I mean yeah

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its spicy

#

how spicy yall think it is?

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on a scale of bastion to genji

balmy wolf Jan 24, 2020, 11:29 PM

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well we do know its gonna involved a faster balancing schedule

low stone Jan 24, 2020, 11:29 PM

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oh dear kaplan no

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the faster they get the more inconsistent they balancing becomes

balmy wolf Jan 24, 2020, 11:30 PM

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or the u get the otherside which is staleness for months

low stone Jan 24, 2020, 11:30 PM

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I dont mean they should go as slow as tf2

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but

balmy wolf Jan 24, 2020, 11:31 PM

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no one likes the same thing over and over

low stone Jan 24, 2020, 11:31 PM

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im not sure thats true

jagged crater Jan 24, 2020, 11:31 PM

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I'm surprised they told xqc anything

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He the type of dude to leak

low stone Jan 24, 2020, 11:31 PM

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^

echo fog Jan 24, 2020, 11:31 PM

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the last tf2 balance update was literally years ago @low stone

jagged crater Jan 24, 2020, 11:31 PM

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And he barely been playing OW

#

Last I watched xqc he was playing some weeb game lmao

low stone Jan 24, 2020, 11:32 PM

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ok thats technically not true but my point was that game is slow as shit to balance

tropic herald Jan 24, 2020, 11:32 PM

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Fast balance isn’t terrible

echo fog Jan 24, 2020, 11:32 PM

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it is absolutely true @low stone

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there may have been like 1 small tweak between then and now

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but otherwise yes its been years

balmy wolf Jan 24, 2020, 11:32 PM

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u think watching goats for 3 stages was fun?

tropic herald Jan 24, 2020, 11:33 PM

#

xQcOW is still associated with OW

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But he’s variety

jagged crater Jan 24, 2020, 11:33 PM

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Leak da juice

echo fog Jan 24, 2020, 11:34 PM

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it's coming by the end of this month!

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you'll know soon

low stone Jan 24, 2020, 11:35 PM

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uPdAtEd lOcAlIzAtIoN FiLeS

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if youre talkin major balance then yeah I agree

celest spear Jan 24, 2020, 11:43 PM

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https://www.reddit.com/r/Competitiveoverwatch/comments/etin8w/avast_confirms_that_twitch_was_in_the_bidding_war/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share

Avast Confirms that Twitch was in the Bidding War to Get OWL

Posted in r/Competitiveoverwatch by u/Supreme_Battle_Jesus • 8 points and 1 comment

hot heart Jan 24, 2020, 11:43 PM

#

Oh wait fuck

#

Oh no

#

WidowLUL

#

Bidding war WidowLUL

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Who the fuck bid for OWL

#

I wanna know WidowLUL

#

@celest spear gimme juice if you have any

#

I need to know who was bidding

#

I swear if Facebook bid

celest spear Jan 24, 2020, 11:44 PM

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It was mainly just for broadcasting rights

#

I don't know who else was bidding

hot heart Jan 24, 2020, 11:45 PM

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Any Amount of money WidowLUL

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Ah i see

celest spear Jan 24, 2020, 11:45 PM

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Higher than $47 mil

hot heart Jan 24, 2020, 11:45 PM

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Hopefully its leaked

#

Holy

#

Thats a little steep

celest spear Jan 24, 2020, 11:45 PM

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Because that's what Twitch was paying OWL for broadcasting

hot heart Jan 24, 2020, 11:45 PM

#

HanzoDisbelief

balmy wolf Jan 24, 2020, 11:45 PM

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considering its youtube they'll outbid anyone for those rights

hot heart Jan 24, 2020, 11:45 PM

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That aint it chief

#

@balmy wolf yeah

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But i just wanna know who tried their luck

#

Against fucking google

celest spear Jan 24, 2020, 11:46 PM

#

COKE GAMING POGGERS

hot heart Jan 24, 2020, 11:46 PM

#

Poggers

balmy wolf Jan 24, 2020, 11:46 PM

#

Fb could've put a bid in

celest spear Jan 24, 2020, 11:46 PM

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There's no beating Google in a bidding war

hot heart Jan 24, 2020, 11:46 PM

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True

#

You just dont

tropic herald Jan 24, 2020, 11:46 PM

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Coke Gaming??? 👉👈😳

hot heart Jan 24, 2020, 11:46 PM

#

You bid something

tropic herald Jan 24, 2020, 11:46 PM

#

What do you mean

hot heart Jan 24, 2020, 11:46 PM

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But you dont win

balmy wolf Jan 24, 2020, 11:46 PM

#

I mean twitch has amazon

hot heart Jan 24, 2020, 11:47 PM

#

Yeah

balmy wolf Jan 24, 2020, 11:47 PM

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Just depends who wants it more

hot heart Jan 24, 2020, 11:47 PM

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Ye

balmy wolf Jan 24, 2020, 11:47 PM

#

And google needs something big to make their platform be more appealing than twitch

hot heart Jan 24, 2020, 11:47 PM

#

Guess twitch was just trying bidding to keep google from having it

#

Or anyone

#

Ye

#

COD league too

#

Thats crazy

tropic herald Jan 24, 2020, 11:49 PM

#

Oh wait

#

They got COD with OWL

jagged crater Jan 24, 2020, 11:51 PM

#

Is cod league going to change games every year? Pretty lame

celest spear Jan 24, 2020, 11:57 PM

#

COD, OW and Hearthstone

#

And yes

#

COD has to change games every year

tropic herald Jan 25, 2020, 12:03 AM

#

Hydration on tank

balmy wolf Jan 25, 2020, 12:22 AM

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COD running at 83k viewers on youtube right now

jagged crater Jan 25, 2020, 12:26 AM

#

Miss Chris

worn falcon Jan 25, 2020, 12:45 AM

#

how its the youtube bitrate?

celest spear Jan 25, 2020, 12:53 AM

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Good. Well, better than Twitch's

balmy wolf Jan 25, 2020, 12:56 AM

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willing to bet youtube’s mobile app also doesn’t have as bad a delay as twitch’s app

wintry kraken Jan 25, 2020, 12:57 AM

#

only thing i hope from owl streams is that drops will trickle again in 'ineligible countries' 😛

#

might happen now that they are switching to youtube 😄

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(someone reacted with a red shirt guy to the tweet from OWL)

worn cedar Jan 25, 2020, 1:11 AM

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I'm just hoping mayhem does okay this year...

worn falcon Jan 25, 2020, 1:12 AM

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Wait this mean we'rent getting token drops? can you link youtube/google acc to battlenet?

worn cedar Jan 25, 2020, 1:13 AM

#

They haven't provided info on that yet

#

I assume that sort of info is coming

#

Since they said more details later

#

But yeah YouTube bitrate is a lot higher than twitch

#

And always has been

lost glade Jan 25, 2020, 1:20 AM

#

wtf why did they switch to youtube gaming

#

i thought twitch and OWL had a partnership

worn cedar Jan 25, 2020, 1:30 AM

#

The contract likely expired

#

And they resigned with yt

#

Because there are more promising prospects

#

Potentially

#

Since blizz/Activision seems to be moving to yt as a whole they might not have a choice

jagged crater Jan 25, 2020, 1:35 AM

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Twitch bitrate is ass

#

But the emotes are top notch

worn falcon Jan 25, 2020, 2:13 AM

#

this mean no more trihard7 for xqc?

#

jokes aside, i want to see how its gonna be with the new casters and stuff. Hope more entertaining.

balmy wolf Jan 25, 2020, 2:15 AM

#

i don’t understand the anger i see on twitter over the move, makes me feel so weird because to me it’s no big deal ;(

worn cedar Jan 25, 2020, 2:29 AM

#

yeah tbh it really isnt a big deal

#

but people on the internet like to make it a big deal

raw ermine Jan 25, 2020, 2:30 AM

#

Do any of you guys believe dafran when he says there is a map editor coming?

#

idk how he would know that

#

same with XQC and his "NDA"

#

I would just think they are building on the "leaking knowledge" meme from emongg

balmy wolf Jan 25, 2020, 2:48 AM

#

what would a map editor fix

#

when compared to hero band

#

bans*

#

and what would a map editor even entail

#

just custom maps for custom games?

#

that’s cool but

#

doesn’t do much

#

if it’s a part of a huge update

#

then it would be pretty cool

odd sedge Jan 25, 2020, 3:46 AM

#

im new to OW what team would people reccomend for me to root for?

mint flower Jan 25, 2020, 3:46 AM

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root for the dragons 🙂

tropic herald Jan 25, 2020, 3:46 AM

#

Atlanta NYXL and Shock are all very strong teams

#

However

#

Root for whoever you want

#

And if there’s a team near you

odd sedge Jan 25, 2020, 3:47 AM

#

im in OR

mint flower Jan 25, 2020, 3:47 AM

#

thats oregon correct?

#

or am i being dumb

odd sedge Jan 25, 2020, 3:48 AM

#

yes

mint flower Jan 25, 2020, 3:48 AM

#

shock

tropic herald Jan 25, 2020, 3:48 AM

#

Vancouver and San Francisco are close to you

#

So Titans or Shock

mint flower Jan 25, 2020, 3:48 AM

#

assuming you want to root for US go shock

odd sedge Jan 25, 2020, 3:48 AM

#

ok

mint flower Jan 25, 2020, 3:48 AM

#

titans are also close as mentioned previously

#

shock also won the most recent season so needless to say, they're pretty nutty

upper hawk Jan 25, 2020, 3:58 AM

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I feel like im gonna have a rough season watching the Gladiators

#

I love Space. as a player and a person. But surefour was the whole soul of the team

tropic herald Jan 25, 2020, 4:04 AM

#

The chad AtlantaReign

#

Erster and Edison noises

trim shadow Jan 25, 2020, 5:49 AM

#

https://twitter.com/howleir/status/1220876235619913729

Brian Davis (@howleir)

#OWL2020 Jersey/Jacket thread

@FLMayhem

#

Not gone lie

#

Theese jerseys have grown on me

#

But those jackets

#

Ill buy all of em

#

Ill@fucking do it i swear

#

And since im late to the conversation

#

And i watch cdl day 1 on youtube

#

I can tell you one thing

#

Yt smoother streams
Less Twitch ads
Instant vod upload within completion of stream

balmy wolf Jan 25, 2020, 6:24 AM

#

Youtube ewwwwww

mint flower Jan 25, 2020, 6:34 AM

#

i honestly hate the merch

#

the jerseys look okay

#

but still a downgrade from the season 1 and 2 jerseys

trim shadow Jan 25, 2020, 6:36 AM

#

Sometimes

#

I just dont understand the human race

#

So i dont try

mint flower Jan 25, 2020, 6:57 AM

#

Lol

wintry kraken Jan 25, 2020, 9:30 AM

#

@balmy wolf anger on twitter is because of "change". People hate change. Just look at every Youtube/Twitter/Facebook redesign

#

at moment of change, mass hysteria happens

hot heart Jan 25, 2020, 9:55 AM

#

Ye

#

But change is needed sometimes

trim shadow Jan 25, 2020, 11:18 AM

#

Overall the youtube switch could benefit owl

#

The fact i went the whole cdl stream

#

And didnt lose a frame

#

Didnt have a random ad

#

Or stream suddenly pause

#

Has me@optimistic

#

On my p h o n e of all things

hot heart Jan 25, 2020, 11:20 AM

#

PogChimp

gaunt acorn Jan 25, 2020, 11:20 AM

#

@trim shadow meanwhile the youtube app doesn't support pop-out viewing on mobile

#

or playing the stream with your screen off

#

seems like a much worse mobile experience, if i'm speaking honestly

#

on pc i think it's probably better due to the higher bitrate & pausing

#

but mobile..

trim shadow Jan 25, 2020, 11:21 AM

#

A small sacrifice to pay

#

But overall i had no problems with youtube

#

My biggest issue with twitch has the random frame lost and occasional stream crash

#

Hell there was one point you had togo mlg because twitch just died

wintry kraken Jan 25, 2020, 12:53 PM

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@gaunt acorn youtube premium feature

hot gull Jan 25, 2020, 1:26 PM

#

Honestly the YouTube deal is overall better

#

And not only is YouTube paying OWL, which is only helping the scene overall, the quality is pretty much better for most people.

#

There are some features people want, but they don’t need it.

karmic grotto Jan 25, 2020, 1:46 PM

#

So, they want to add something that streamers will go back to overwatch

#

I had a crazy idea what it could be

#

Giving some streamers the possibility to have their games livestreamed in-game

#

in real-time spectating your favourite streamer, but just now I realise

#

The idea itself is absurd

#

Probably something else

#

Yet the new system could also be

#

That some maps are being mirrored and others played in reverse

#

📎 unknown.png

#

📎 unknown.png

#

So yeah, I mean, if you want to bring something new, why not have some maps mirrored?

#

Like, you can have new maps being developed

#

But also maps mirrored to bring more diversity in map view

#

Old maps suddenly feel like completely new ones

wintry kraken Jan 25, 2020, 1:58 PM

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@karmic grotto they have it for OWL, no ? I mean the spectating option

karmic grotto Jan 25, 2020, 1:59 PM

#

Worldcup had that

#

OWL didn't because of Twitch contract, the pov where livestreamed on twitch

#

In-game livestream is the best since there's no lag or buff

#

Looks exactly as if you would have played it

#

Also

#

📎 unknown.png

#

LEAKED, REIN DOUBLE HAMMER EXTENDED RIALTO MAP /s

#

Anyways, yes

#

mirrored maps

#

Would that a great idea, or nah?

#

Would it make owl more diverse by watching team comps on the same maps, that are just opposite?

#

We will receive more information next week about it

#

Can't wait to hear what it is

cedar sluice Jan 25, 2020, 2:10 PM

#

Does anyone even watch overwatch legue

hot heart Jan 25, 2020, 2:13 PM

#

Yes

raw ermine Jan 25, 2020, 2:13 PM

#

yes

trim shadow Jan 25, 2020, 2:13 PM

#

Yes

raw ermine Jan 25, 2020, 2:13 PM

#

hasn't started for the year tho

hot heart Jan 25, 2020, 2:13 PM

#

WidowLUL

jagged crater Jan 25, 2020, 2:13 PM

#

what am i looking at

trim shadow Jan 25, 2020, 2:14 PM

#

Beauty

hot heart Jan 25, 2020, 2:15 PM

#

GachiBass

#

Do you like what you see

agile lake Jan 25, 2020, 6:17 PM

#

Just came here to say, OWL switching to Youtube will probably make me less enterested, cya

cloud latch Jan 25, 2020, 6:18 PM

#

ok

hot heart Jan 25, 2020, 6:22 PM

#

Okay

trim shadow Jan 25, 2020, 6:30 PM

#

Came here to say

#

No one cares

hot heart Jan 25, 2020, 6:39 PM

#

Nice

velvet dove Jan 25, 2020, 6:46 PM

#

@karmic grotto
Who's the streamer?

karmic grotto Jan 25, 2020, 6:51 PM

#

Si Not Found

celest spear Jan 25, 2020, 7:15 PM

#

From Yiska: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/489665226715824139/670700944669016074/image0.png

raw ermine Jan 25, 2020, 7:17 PM

#

well RIP Dallas

trim shadow Jan 25, 2020, 7:18 PM

#

Whoopity do what a suprise

karmic grotto Jan 25, 2020, 7:26 PM

#

Give them time

#

And if you read

#

"initial scrim rumour"

raw ermine Jan 25, 2020, 7:28 PM

#

but if you read

#

"Dalla fuel record: 0-10"

#

you know you were right

night tusk Jan 25, 2020, 8:52 PM

#

Obi

#

Was charge picture ?

trail lodge Jan 25, 2020, 8:53 PM

#

@cedar sluice https://twitter.com/Grazen/status/1217767965615185920

Adam E. Adamou (@Grazen)

The most popular esports leagues of 2019 (hours watched):

Overwatch League @overwatchleague
League of Legends Korea #LCK
League of Legends Europe #LEC
League of Legends US #LCS
PUBG Mobile

Likes

409

#

"Does anyone even watch OWL"

#

WeirdChamp

#

Who

#

OMEGALUL

raw ermine Jan 25, 2020, 8:54 PM

#

wow

#

I love OWL, but I didn't expect it to be number 1

vernal summit Jan 25, 2020, 8:54 PM

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I didn't expect that either

raw ermine Jan 25, 2020, 8:55 PM

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tbf LOL has 3 in the top 5, combined they are bigger, way bigger

trail lodge Jan 25, 2020, 8:55 PM

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OW esports is still top 3

vernal summit Jan 25, 2020, 8:55 PM

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Bout double if combined

balmy wolf Jan 25, 2020, 9:05 PM

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OWL is streamed a lot too

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but yes OWL is one of the bigger esports for sure

sullen berry Jan 25, 2020, 9:17 PM

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@night tusk GuangzhouCharge

upper niche Jan 25, 2020, 9:59 PM

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OWL has a lot of people just sitting it in the background for token drops.

balmy wolf Jan 25, 2020, 10:03 PM

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we don’t know exactly how many it is that do that to be fair

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could be half, could be 20% of ppl

bright cypress Jan 25, 2020, 10:09 PM

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Still, as long as people are watching, OWL is getting more money

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Which means it'll stay for longer

raw ermine Jan 25, 2020, 10:11 PM

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yeah

balmy wolf Jan 25, 2020, 10:44 PM

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What are tokens

raw ermine Jan 25, 2020, 10:45 PM

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they are the currency that allows you to buy OWL skins and other OWL related things ingame

balmy wolf Jan 25, 2020, 10:48 PM

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You have to watch OWL for them?

raw ermine Jan 25, 2020, 10:48 PM

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yes

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or buy them

tropic herald Jan 25, 2020, 10:58 PM

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Yes

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It’s 100 tokens for 5.00 USD iirc

hot heart Jan 25, 2020, 10:59 PM

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@sullen berry so from VAN to GZ

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PogChimp

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My boi

mint flower Jan 25, 2020, 11:06 PM

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Pretty sure at the beginning of season 2 he was GZ

hot heart Jan 25, 2020, 11:11 PM

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Didnt notice

celest spear Jan 25, 2020, 11:35 PM

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https://twitter.com/MattMersel/status/1221206909677473793

BackpackMatt 🦉 (@MattMersel)

Put together a list of each team's final blow record in a match, and there are some big winners here:

@Surefour is the all-timer with 121
@Bazziow got his for Spark the same day (best of 7)
@SoOn99 has the record for 2 teams
@Outlaws has 3 players all tied at 69
@A_Seagul...

raw ermine Jan 25, 2020, 11:48 PM

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S4?

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HZ must have been clapped that day

tropic herald Jan 25, 2020, 11:50 PM

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I’d be interested to know the specific game each of these happened

raw ermine Jan 25, 2020, 11:51 PM

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yeah

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the Seagull and Striker one was the same game

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Oh thats what they meant by the same day thing

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then 3 days later, SMS comes in at 3rd

tropic herald Jan 25, 2020, 11:55 PM

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Wait

raw ermine Jan 25, 2020, 11:55 PM

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I am suprised Sinatraa has only 1 appearance

tropic herald Jan 25, 2020, 11:55 PM

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HZS and GLA were the same game

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It was playoffs

raw ermine Jan 25, 2020, 11:55 PM

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yeah

tropic herald Jan 25, 2020, 11:55 PM

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Bazzi on doom

raw ermine Jan 25, 2020, 11:55 PM

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thats what best of 7 meant

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oh

tropic herald Jan 25, 2020, 11:55 PM

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Sure four on Reaper

raw ermine Jan 25, 2020, 11:55 PM

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yeah

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I automatically thought most of these were goats

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makes sense

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S4 is a insane reaper

tropic herald Jan 25, 2020, 11:56 PM

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Neither Houston or Boston broke their records in Season 2

raw ermine Jan 25, 2020, 11:57 PM

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coolmatt linkzr and j LUL ke with the triple 69

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nice

tropic herald Jan 25, 2020, 11:57 PM

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Nice

sullen berry Jan 26, 2020, 12:27 AM

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@celest spear peak outlaws in final blows

sharp mural Jan 26, 2020, 1:22 AM

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How are we supposed to get OWL tokens besides paying for them now?

raw ermine Jan 26, 2020, 1:26 AM

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There might be a system similar to drops in youtube streams also

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stay tuned to see what is said about them

gaunt acorn Jan 26, 2020, 1:29 AM

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@sharp mural youtube supports drops, but as of right now owl token drops are TBD

sharp mural Jan 26, 2020, 1:30 AM

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Oh ok

mint flower Jan 26, 2020, 1:49 AM

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there better be a free way of getting tokens

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i swear...

sullen berry Jan 26, 2020, 1:59 AM

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listen, if it works for clash royale, why not ow league?

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https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/535520793426132995/670741869700972555/unknown-5.png

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you can can at least connect your battle.net like you would on Twitch

balmy wolf Jan 26, 2020, 2:34 AM

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fortnite had drops too i think

sullen berry Jan 26, 2020, 7:37 AM

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okay boston
https://mobile.twitter.com/BostonUprising/status/1219396992000057345

Boston Uprising (@BostonUprising)

Snow day resourcefulness. ❄️🌨

@Jerry__ow | #BostonUp https://t.co/KY7gBvEEoG

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Jerry giving everyone good vibes this offseason

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he'll love the snow available in the rest of the northern hemisphere

raw ermine Jan 26, 2020, 1:33 PM

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sideshow got his eyebrows back

hot heart Jan 26, 2020, 1:43 PM

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WidowLUL

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Show me

raw ermine Jan 26, 2020, 1:49 PM

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EUgIiaoQjbA&t=649s

YouTube

Sideshow

OWL goes to YouTube: what does it all mean?!

Lot to break down here. It's an incredibly interesting move for Overwatch League, the wider esports scene, and also the battle between cloud magnates AWS and GCP. -- Watch live at https://www.twitch.tv/sideshow

▶ Play video

hot heart Jan 26, 2020, 1:54 PM

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Fucking beautiful

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Thank you

jagged crater Jan 26, 2020, 2:02 PM

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need my drops

mint flower Jan 26, 2020, 2:29 PM

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Same

trim shadow Jan 26, 2020, 3:06 PM

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When did sideshow become french

hot heart Jan 26, 2020, 3:08 PM

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Bruh WidowLUL

green fiber Jan 26, 2020, 3:17 PM

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yo

raw ermine Jan 26, 2020, 3:52 PM

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less then 2 weeks til OWL

mint flower Jan 26, 2020, 3:55 PM

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enter some dumbass super sticker here

raw ermine Jan 26, 2020, 3:56 PM

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super sticker?

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am I whooshing, cause I am thinking of a literal plastic sticker, with Super from SF shock on it

mint flower Jan 26, 2020, 3:57 PM

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Yeah super stickers are YouTube's chat

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Since we no longer have twitch chat

raw ermine Jan 26, 2020, 3:58 PM

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oh

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youtube emotes

mint flower Jan 26, 2020, 3:58 PM

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Yea

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The word super stickers makes me want to die

raw ermine Jan 26, 2020, 3:58 PM

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🤔

mint flower Jan 26, 2020, 3:58 PM

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It's so fucking childish

raw ermine Jan 26, 2020, 3:59 PM

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In a similar vein, I have been thinking of another name for clips, so YT can add a clip feature to streams

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I feel like youtube, if they do make one, will call it something that carries a similar meme level that saying super stickers does

mint flower Jan 26, 2020, 3:59 PM

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https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/565767429180096512/670397475701522432/20639226-7652927-image-a-22_1572984145023.png
Like srsly wtf

raw ermine Jan 26, 2020, 4:00 PM

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...

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A pear?

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why

mint flower Jan 26, 2020, 4:00 PM

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Just shoot me

raw ermine Jan 26, 2020, 4:00 PM

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just why

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that will be spammed ironically tho

mint flower Jan 26, 2020, 4:00 PM

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This is what we have for PogChamp now

raw ermine Jan 26, 2020, 4:00 PM

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whenever there is a boomer moment on stream

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PearChamp?

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nah

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lmao

mint flower Jan 26, 2020, 4:00 PM

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Lmao

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https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/565767429180096512/670396701667885075/63061385291073.png

raw ermine Jan 26, 2020, 4:02 PM

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bruh

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just bruh

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why the pears

mint flower Jan 26, 2020, 4:02 PM

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Ikr

raw ermine Jan 26, 2020, 4:02 PM

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who came up with them

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like, it would be better to just rip off twitch at this point

mint flower Jan 26, 2020, 4:03 PM

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How are we going to spam the chat with J LUL KE

raw ermine Jan 26, 2020, 4:03 PM

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control c and v pogchamp, lul, and other emotes

mint flower Jan 26, 2020, 4:03 PM

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Lol

raw ermine Jan 26, 2020, 4:03 PM

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put a pear in place of the LUL?

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J🍐 KE

mint flower Jan 26, 2020, 4:03 PM

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lmao

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Should've used a potato

raw ermine Jan 26, 2020, 4:04 PM

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J🥔KE

mint flower Jan 26, 2020, 4:04 PM

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Then we can call people out for having potato aim

raw ermine Jan 26, 2020, 4:05 PM

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perfect

worn cedar Jan 26, 2020, 4:09 PM

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Users will band together despite the changes to fight off the evil of corporate

hot heart Jan 26, 2020, 4:46 PM

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Or

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Users will babyrage

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Or whatever yt comes up with instead of babyrage

raw ermine Jan 26, 2020, 4:48 PM

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AngryPearMan

hot heart Jan 26, 2020, 4:49 PM

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WidowLUL

tropic herald Jan 26, 2020, 4:53 PM

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Bruh

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None of those are good

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Except Cool

mint flower Jan 26, 2020, 4:54 PM

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I disagree

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They're all trash

tropic herald Jan 26, 2020, 4:56 PM

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Cool is the only one I can use ironically

remote cradle Jan 26, 2020, 6:33 PM

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How does overwatch tokens work? And also it says that u have to be associated to on of the countres listed

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@me

cloud latch Jan 26, 2020, 6:56 PM

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you get 3 per hour of watch owl

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sometimes there are random drops and you can get like 200 I think

balmy wolf Jan 26, 2020, 7:01 PM

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The drops are usually worth 100

celest spear Jan 26, 2020, 7:07 PM

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https://twitter.com/ashjlong/status/1220166304616894465?s=21

Chu (@AshJLong)

Scrims are going well.... @FinnsiOW https://t.co/47v0IYPE4e

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110

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905

▶ Play video

hot heart Jan 26, 2020, 8:39 PM

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WidowLUL

sand violet Jan 26, 2020, 9:09 PM

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ok does anyone remember that coaching workshop/discussion I said I was gonna run

raw ermine Jan 26, 2020, 9:09 PM

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yes

hot heart Jan 26, 2020, 9:12 PM

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Ye

sand violet Jan 26, 2020, 9:13 PM

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so uh

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an OWL head coach sat in

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LOL

tropic herald Jan 26, 2020, 9:14 PM

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Who

raw ermine Jan 26, 2020, 9:15 PM

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what

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WHAT

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Lmao

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which team?

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In other news, rick fox is not dead, thank god

sand violet Jan 26, 2020, 9:16 PM

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John Galt of Washington Justice

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a few EU contenders ppl sat in too which was nice

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actually a ton of EU people sat in I was expecting more NA

tropic herald Jan 26, 2020, 9:16 PM

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My first guess was him for some reason

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Idk why I thought John

raw ermine Jan 26, 2020, 9:16 PM

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John Galt

sand violet Jan 26, 2020, 9:16 PM

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hes p involved in community things

raw ermine Jan 26, 2020, 9:16 PM

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that is impressive

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what coaching experience do you have?

sand violet Jan 26, 2020, 9:18 PM

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Was in T2 with Chicken Contendies, in T3 with GRUNTo rn

raw ermine Jan 26, 2020, 9:18 PM

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nice

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You met Harb?

sand violet Jan 26, 2020, 9:21 PM

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Ye

tropic herald Jan 26, 2020, 9:22 PM

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I feel bad for Harb

cloud latch Jan 26, 2020, 9:32 PM

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isn't he 28?

hot heart Jan 26, 2020, 9:34 PM

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Something like that yeah

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26 maybe?

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@sand violet PogChimp

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Huge

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PogChimp

tropic herald Jan 26, 2020, 9:48 PM

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He’s 26

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He’s past the age that he will get scouted or contracted

raw ermine Jan 26, 2020, 9:56 PM

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too much of a boomer

hot heart Jan 26, 2020, 11:14 PM

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True

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How would harb do in owl

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WidowLUL

raw ermine Jan 26, 2020, 11:15 PM

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he has hit rank 1, but that isn't that impressive for an OWL player

tropic herald Jan 26, 2020, 11:16 PM

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Idk

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Not every OWL player is a rank 1 gamer

raw ermine Jan 26, 2020, 11:19 PM

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They could do it, but choose not to cause they don't have the time

hot heart Jan 26, 2020, 11:36 PM

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Yes

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Now

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I can use the one emote i wanted to use for forever

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Wtf

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Nyo

hot heart Jan 27, 2020, 2:32 AM

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It works

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GExqcM

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aniconfuseddog

karmic grotto Jan 27, 2020, 6:25 AM

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ATL10k ATL10k ATL10k ATL10k

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12 DAYS TO GO

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HYPE HYPE HYPE

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VAN10k NYE10k DAL10k SFS10k

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BOS10k GLA10k PAR10k TOR10k

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OVERWATCH LEAGUE 2020 SEASON 3

remote cradle Jan 27, 2020, 7:00 AM

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Does overwatch league tokens drop in all countries cause on blizzard.net they said that u had to be associated with these countries and a list

balmy wolf Jan 27, 2020, 7:03 AM

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in some countries u cant get it

remote cradle Jan 27, 2020, 7:45 AM

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@balmy wolf thats kinda unfair?

sullen berry Jan 27, 2020, 8:48 AM

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Not really something blizzard can do

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In some countries either the legislation doesn't specify if token drops are considered gambling or not

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or
Blizzard has no interest in countries who have insignificant market share

upper niche Jan 27, 2020, 9:26 AM

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Yah. Like in Aus the laws on gambling are state by state

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makes it really difficult and a lot of countries would just chuck it in the too-hard basket. Likely they'd have some third-party that negotiates competition licenses on their behalf and gets it sorted in all states for them.

karmic grotto Jan 27, 2020, 9:31 AM

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Comparing tokens to gambling is ridiculous

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I feels like gambling because you predict the outcome and got something in return

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But neither money nor property is involved

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This is just for the fun

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But I can understand why they did that because when buying loot boxes, it's like gambling

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Except

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What you get from loot boxes is nothing worthy

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If you could get a golden glow skin, or silver weapon, or even a modified weapon or spray, it would make a lot of sense

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But I now know from experience that skins aren't something we care about these days

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We care more about ranked, the game and possibilities

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You can grind the skins while leveling up and participating in arcade

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And roles...

upper niche Jan 27, 2020, 9:36 AM

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Yes, but we don't make that decision. Blizzard have obviously decided that they either need to have those licenses or that in those particular regions they might be at risk of being in breach of some kind of law so they simply don't offer them.

karmic grotto Jan 27, 2020, 9:36 AM

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VPN D_Pepega

upper niche Jan 27, 2020, 9:37 AM

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I suppose that also depends on whether the drops are tied to where you're viewing from, or where the account is registered as having your location set.

karmic grotto Jan 27, 2020, 9:37 AM

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hmm

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That's a key question that needs an answer

remote cradle Jan 27, 2020, 11:18 AM

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just found out i can get tokens xD. I just was lookng on my phone so i could only see half of the countries xD

karmic grotto Jan 27, 2020, 11:49 AM

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wtf

serene jackal Jan 27, 2020, 12:03 PM

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Are there any Esports orgs where the have a team for every state in their time zones

karmic grotto Jan 27, 2020, 12:08 PM

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Yes

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Matches going to be in NA, Canada, England, France, China, South-Korea

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And more

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There will always be one timezone for you

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If you talk about NA and esports in generalv

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Then

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Hmm

serene jackal Jan 27, 2020, 12:18 PM

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I want a Florida team

sullen berry Jan 27, 2020, 12:20 PM

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Well here's all the teams in Overwatch League @serene jackal
https://overwatchleague.com/en-us/teams

serene jackal Jan 27, 2020, 12:38 PM

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I know

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I mean like smaller teams

tropic herald Jan 27, 2020, 12:42 PM

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There do be a Florida team doe 😳

rare magnet Jan 27, 2020, 3:51 PM

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Apparently Leetaejun was duo'd up with the actual Bumper on his stream. He played Rein and Winston. I only caught one match and I think he left.

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I asked someone from chat if it was real bumper they said yes and he sounded like bumper

karmic grotto Jan 27, 2020, 5:26 PM

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who?

rare magnet Jan 27, 2020, 5:32 PM

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He used to play in Lunatic Hai (same team Ryujehong played before Dynasty) he's very popular korean twitch streamer plays a lot of OW still

raw ermine Jan 27, 2020, 5:39 PM

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Jjonak likes to piss him off

cloud latch Jan 27, 2020, 5:41 PM

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lol really?

raw ermine Jan 27, 2020, 5:42 PM

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look up on YT "Jjonak's favourite person to pissed off"

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I think its him, although I could have mistaken the name, as it is similar to other names

trim shadow Jan 27, 2020, 8:40 PM

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https://twitter.com/VancouverTitans/status/1221883766458552322?s=20

Vancouver Titans (@VancouverTitans)

We are excited for the 2020 season with the Pacific West Division! 💙💚 https://t.co/XKGZMTQzbc

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raw ermine Jan 27, 2020, 8:41 PM

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ohhhhh

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oh snap

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LMAOOOOOOOOOOO

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https://twitter.com/LAValiant/status/1221888081235591168

Los Angeles Valiant (@LAValiant)

@VancouverTitans @LAGladiators @SFShock @DallasFuel

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they don't like that

jagged crater Jan 27, 2020, 8:57 PM

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it really do be like that

sullen berry Jan 27, 2020, 9:53 PM

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@tropic herald I know

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But he meant like

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"smaller teams"

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Not sure how much smaller you can get if you don't know Mayhem Academy exists..

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Probably a local scene

celest spear Jan 27, 2020, 10:06 PM

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https://twitter.com/proxywolf/status/1221893149015982081?s=19

Wolf Schröder (@proxywolf)

Here are my initial power rankings for the pre-season of OWL 2020. It’s a fairly controversial list, but it’s mine.

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raw ermine Jan 27, 2020, 10:07 PM

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yeah thats kinda whack

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washington above philly, toronto 2nd last, NYXL 4th, florida 7th

mint flower Jan 27, 2020, 10:10 PM

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did you guys notice that slur isnt on OWL's announcement of LAV's roster?

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i wonder if he got cut or something

raw ermine Jan 27, 2020, 10:14 PM

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yeah

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We would have heard tho

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I found out

mint flower Jan 27, 2020, 10:16 PM

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you know what he did tho right

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found out?

raw ermine Jan 27, 2020, 10:16 PM

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He made racist comments apparently

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granted, this is couple ppl on twitter saying this only

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but

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thats the consensus so far

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https://twitter.com/overwatchleague/status/1221840290996047872

Overwatch League (@overwatchleague)

Nothing but clear skies for this young team in #OWL2020

Drop a #WingsOut to show the @LAValiant your support 🙌

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mint flower Jan 27, 2020, 10:17 PM

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yeah he said the N word, and then changed his handle too

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cuz that was ironic

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pulled a PewDiePie

raw ermine Jan 27, 2020, 10:17 PM

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scroll down, you will see ppl asking about him

mint flower Jan 27, 2020, 10:17 PM

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o ok

raw ermine Jan 27, 2020, 10:18 PM

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https://liquipedia.net/overwatch/Provide

Liquipedia Overwatch Wiki

provide

Owen "provide" Warner is a British player who was most recently signed to (but never played for) the Los Angeles Valiant. He was formally known as 'Slur'.

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there he is

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gone 3 days ago

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I mean, at least they have lastro

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but jeez, how could this team get worse

sand violet Jan 27, 2020, 10:26 PM

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It is well known that he made tons of racist comments

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not a pewdiepie like he accidentally let it slip once

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specifically targeted people and called them those words