It is their meta
#esports-discussion
hot heart
mint flower
morrow
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Not champs
balmy wolf
I don't think washington is gonna win but I'm gonna enjoy seeing Cory do his do
mint flower
what a joker
hot heart
Corey is pog
mint flower
corey is their only superstar tho
balmy wolf
I do wish there was a meta shift every stage tho or however many weeks equals a stage before; idk keep the game fresh and everyone on their toes as they scramble to find best characters or play what their best at
I mean it worked in stage 4
mint flower
everyone else is above average at best imo
mint flower
maybe... like aimgod... but i don't see anyone else
hot heart
But he isnt gonna effect this yeam
balmy wolf
Oh yea forgot they picked Roar
hot heart
Aimgod
balmy wolf
Roar's been... underwhelming on every team
hot heart
@balmy wolfye
mint flower
ive seen some people say he's still gonna be dogshit tho
balmy wolf
Yea but you don't want "just okay"
mint flower
someone in the WAS plat chat episode said roar is like a coach
hot heart
Okay isnt gonna cut it
mint flower
like he'll play more of a coach role
hot heart
You need a leader and superstar at MT
mint flower
idk if thats true or not
balmy wolf
I actually disagree
balmy wolf
you just need someone who knows how to captain
balmy wolf
it's why I think SBB is like 40% of the reason why I love NY; married man meta forever
and also why watching nenne stresses me the hell out
mint flower
supers pretty good and he's pretty vocal too iirc
mint flower
lol
mint flower
omg i remember that in stage 3 finals
so fucking annoying watching dragons lose 3 maps cuz of that shit
balmy wolf
I think stage 3 was where everyone just learned how much of an actual boss he was
my god
mint flower
i thought we were gonna lose after that third map loss
balmy wolf
I just hope Mano fixes his Orisa play cause my god that is brutal
hot heart
Sombra tracer ball winton zen and whatever other support is played with dive
mint flower
gtg yalls
balmy wolf
Mano's great just his orisa play is noticably bad
balmy wolf
Also is it just me
but whenever they show highlights now
it's all so boring cause it's nothing but goats meta?
hot heart
Highlights?
Also
What do you think of the ansan pickup by SFS?
Honestly
I think he's really good
Ive been following him for the longest time
He is an amazing widow
@balmy wolf
balmy wolf
I don't follow really much of contenders or other scenes besides OWL mate sorry to say idk
but it's nice they picked up a widow specialist I guess?
sullen berry
Which it did
For those not watching for more broader reasons than star players and pop-off matches
hot heart
Which is most of the viewers
balmy wolf
I just want a meta shift every month man
trim shadow
Or a larger variety of heros would help
balmy wolf
What use is a large variety of heroes if it's only going to be mirror matches all the time for basically 4-6 months
with the same heroes for those 4-6 months
balmy wolf
hero bans are an interesting idea for sure
just don’t know how it would be implemented
it would make it very interesting tho
supple prism
nah, just need more heroes
jagged crater
who's gonna be the host without malik or puckett?
hot heart
Who knows
sullen berry
karmic grotto
sullen berry
from pacific to eu contenders https://twitter.com/EternalAcademy/status/1216795511400722438?s=19
sullen berry
dude the pacific region of sugarfree
if you don't know him
he's part of Thailand's world cup team
hot heart
Why would Paris pick him up
Also
Second Thai player in OWL
Now mickie wont feel lonely in that department
sullen berry
this is Paris' contenders team
karmic grotto
sullen berry
yeah eternal academy logo is not the laziest thing to misread
hot heart
Anything t1 im at least a littlw knowledgeable at
sullen berry
at least learn some when you get the chance, that's how I got into australia contendies
hot heart
Oh wow they added a circle to the logo
Pretty creative
@sullen berry where should i start?
T2 is sometimes a bit of a mess for me
sullen berry
interesting choice
hot heart
Are china still meta breakers?
If so
Im watching them too
China has always been an interesting region
sullen berry
Contenders consists of 2-3 regions that rarely come up in conversation
but they're honestly awesome enough for OCE folk like me to follow
China aren't only meta breakers
they used to be the most isolated region with their teams
I'm just watching China Contenders for their academy teams
hot heart
Which ones?
Wait
Does chengdu have an acad team
Or Hangzhou?
Anyway
Back to the starting point
sullen berry
My Tier list of the chinese academy teams
Team CC
LGE.Huya
T1W.GZA
Bilibili Gaming
sullen berry
for china?
sullen berry
up to you ofc
hot heart
Im watching EM rn
But that's about it
There was another team
Hm
Dont remember
@sullen berry what are your recommendations then?
sullen berry
It's literally contenders level, of what I'm watching - I'm fine with sharing it here because there's nothing to judge anyways
Europe - Eternal Academy (2020), Clockwork Vendetta (watch anything from them, they're that fun to watch)
Korea - O2 Blast
Australia - Ground Zero, Warriors esports, Mindfreak
NA East/West - Envy, ATL Academy, Uprising Academy, Skyfoxes
China - Academy teams and Lucky Future (all Korean team in China lol)
that's me on the surface
hot heart
Pretty good list
sullen berry
I know Korea has quality players, so any of the teams there is fine
sullen berry
I haven't really paid attention to them
hot heart
Hmm
sullen berry
I only knew about Kaiser was on that team like last year
and GZ bringing in cr0ng from their team
that's how I managed to put stonks on Meta Bellum last year
hot heart
Cr0ng
Wait have i asked you for your power rankings before?
Ive asked endoken and rusha
sullen berry
sure did
sullen berry
not my type of question I answer this early tbh
sullen berry
too many unknowns this season compared to last year
hot heart
True
But
Okay let me rephrase
Who do you think has the most potential of all the OWL teams?
Basically who could win it all
Other than SFS because they would make it unfair
sullen berry
hmmm
I'm kinda thinking it through now
I'd say there's about 5 in that list right now
if you're really looking for one - that's what I can really ham it down to
NYXL's roster is so-so when it comes to their upgrades but it looks great
Fuel is looking to seriously reboot with Gamsu/NotE/Decay
Vancouver is Vancouver, bringing in Jehong and Fissure
Shock is Shock if Crusty's coaching holds water for the third year and he's still interested in coaching a successful team
upper niche
The way you describe Vancouver with bringing in Fissure is like saying 'Ferrari is Ferrari, bringing in Romain Grosjean' 😄
trim shadow
Advance memeing there
trim shadow
And then asking for nerfs to the nerfs
austere quest
is the shock keeping the same roster
@sinful mica fuel is badddd
@sinful mica so disguising my dog as my mom worked
Pepehands
Lmao you got deleted
All this for the worst team in owl?
raw ermine
The shock have kept virtually the same roster, except getting rid of nevix who wasn't being played and picking up ANS, a Korean widow OTP hand picked by crusty.
austere quest
Why do i feel like sinatraa is going to be playing tracer again
Doom is fucked so chipsa getting layed off
And striker and corey will be played alot more
raw ermine
I love how chipsa said that they OWL teams sent a memo to the league asking them to nerd doom cause they were scared of him lmao
hot heart
Honestly
ChipSa
And this is an unpopular opinion
Would destory teams on doom
If given the proper support
He'd fucking roll mid tier teams with ease
He just has so much knowledge on the hero
Thats why the drama with thr pathtopro thing with chipSa doesnt exactly work
He is skilled
Just happened to be a streamer
balmy wolf
Nice copypasta
hot heart
Wha
raw ermine
What is wrong with moth? Extremely good, extremely stable, any team would want him.
short sparrow
Best MS in the league imo
raw ermine
I haven't seen much of him, but he seems like he has been around for a while and could easily be added to the top Flex support talk with jjonak , twilight, and viol2t. He has skill and some veteran presence.
little silo
We'll see how Alarm adapts to this new environment. He is used to winning we don't know if he can deal with hardships. He also rarely had someone who could match him on flex support
austere quest
Will the shock win again lol they have the best off tank and best dps in owl on their team
Wait moth is an ms? I though he was a reddit lucio
Also why does the shock has so many dps players
Ik like more variety but do they really need 4?
austere quest
I mean why
cloud latch
shock also has the best coach I think
austere quest
They pay sinatraa half the outlaws salary
Whole team
@cloud latch this is biased but they do
They also have the best offtank
And best dps
cloud latch
they also have a top 1-3 mt
austere quest
Yeah but super is more of an entertainer like if you know what i mean. Hes not an allstar like choi and jay
cloud latch
still a really great mt though
austere quest
Hes still really good but i like him for him not his gameplay
cloud latch
isn't he the captain of the team?
austere quest
Yes he is
Also i like that San Francisco isnt just a South Korean team based in x city
Like nyxl and spitfire
trim shadow
cloud latch
raw ermine
All the good main supports last year had a bit of reddit lucio in there dna
Expect maybe anamo
mint flower
@austere quest where do you get the numbers for the salaries
supple prism
interesting
raw ermine
Shock has 5 dps now
cloud latch
?
raw ermine
Sinatraa, striker,architect, rascal, ANS
mint flower
That's so nutty
raw ermine
It is insanly
No hero doesn't have a top tier player on the team
Expect for the niche like torb
austere quest
@mint flower sometimes players leak their contracts
or even the team does
the min is 50k
and sinatraas was 150k in 2017
probs more now cuz he carried wc
supple prism
with rumors of various others being higher
tropic herald
All I know is the Dallas pockets are deep
karmic grotto
You know what else is deep?
celest spear
News from Yiska in Tactical Crouch:
-Gesture has been doing poorly in scrims
-London is doing as poorly as everyone predicted in scrims
karmic grotto
London doing poorly. Cause putting a team of randos that have less than, what, 4-5 months scrim time is gonna work well vs teams that have been playing for years or since season 2
Who would have thought 
raw ermine
resigning all 7 must have been expensive, but at leas they could have spent a bunch on 1 really good player frpm old LS, like fury or profit
karmic grotto
Yeah
raw ermine
All of last years team is better than this years
except maybe glister, and only if he replaces birdring
celest spear
raw ermine
oh man that custa situation is funny as hell
cloud latch
Idek
hot heart
Ye
tropic herald
Harsha tweet makes it sound like that
austere quest
@mint flower seeming as they are not the best team. saying that nicely. The players are not making stupid amounts of money. What adds is that Houston has an 11 man roster.
celest spear
mint flower
Yeah that's pretty fucking strange
runic vapor
LOL
hidden vault
I meant the koreans do that too
So why not
Yeah and I found it weird that rumours were saying coldest would join chengdu when he is from bilibi
trim shadow
Id imagine if it was a bidding war
If it was real
But the reason chengdu said it wouldnt happen maybe because they pulled out for molly and lensaga?
trim shadow
I at first thought it was lensa
sullen berry
Lasagne
jagged crater
uber leaving would be fuckin RIP man
echo quest
Kyo Finna be a bench boy
hidden vault
Yveltal too
sullen berry
and with Leave and JinMu for dps?
hidden vault
There's still baconjack
hidden vault
Why the comment?
sullen berry
Baconjack for the most part is their sub
hot heart
Leave Jinmu
short sparrow
Ikr @raw ermine
hot heart
@pearl stratus are you dead?
tropic herald
Muted still
jagged crater
off season is lit
raw ermine
We need a big flow chart to do this
worn falcon
Endoken still muted
mint flower
Rip endoken
trim shadow
I think chengdu and hangzhou are gonna have a nice rivalry
The chineese boys vs the lonely snow and the 6 koreans
jagged crater
gonna miss that red panda
sand violet
How is he still muted lmao the shit he said was so minor
karmic grotto
It's not something that happened once
jagged crater
what did he say
trim shadow
Endo has always been open with what he says so they could be tired of that
balmy wolf
I dip when endo gets tiradey
jagged crater
i dont
mint slate
shock and valiant changed their colors, do the skins i have will they change color too
worn falcon
No
raw ermine
today is the cutoff day for old skins, so sometime today you will no longer be able to buy the old ones, so yes you will still have the old ones but the new ones you must buy
mint slate
ok thank you
mint flower
little silo
That's such an ugly graphic
balmy wolf
this looks like something I expect out of mayhem
but valiant has gone for broke
so makes sense
tropic herald
KSP Pog
little silo
gonna be fun for the production with KSP and KSF being on the same team
raw ermine
why so many ppl name KS(insert letter here)? he have KSF,KSP, and 3 more ppl on twitter named in a similar fashion
https://twitter.com/LAValiant/status/1217586566110908417
Lmao they rename themselves on twitter KSValiant
Twitter
trim shadow
Df is he muted permanently?
jagged crater
Rip red panda boi
hasty flare
If I have old mayhem do I get new mayhem or do I have to buy new mayhem?
sick sundial
Can the la gladiators go against the Shanghai dragons 🐉 
I want la gladiators to win
And I wanna join la gladiators
jagged crater
Gladiata
raw ermine
currently I think glads would lose
cloud latch
same
celest spear
Twitter
trim shadow
I mean sure matt took a pay cut so that you can sign a above average flex support
But matt was never gonna start?
So he wouldnt waste his time
raw ermine
He could have rode the bench will full salary
worn falcon
11 players tho
raw ermine
but he took a cut for the team and moved to coaching
trim shadow
How much were they fucking paying him if he took a pay cut just for jecse
jagged crater
Contracts how do they work!?
trim shadow
I know theres a cap space
But how big was his contract that you. Couldnt fill the 12th spot
tropic herald
His contract was 3 years iirc so it could’ve been pretty big
trim shadow
trim shadow
I wonder where they are gonna hang the jerseys
jagged crater
in the bathroom stalls
trim shadow
weve been working dilligently to pick up a competitive roster
signs a bunch of mid table t2’s and a t3
raw ermine
ba-dum tssssssss
trim shadow
Tried to punch glister in there
jagged crater
karmic grotto
No, it isn't?
sullen berry
For seeding
Atl academy aren’t disadvantaged by this
You guys talking about endo earlier
blissful heron
owl>contenders no matter how much you wanna hate on some teams
boston will 4-0 atlanta academy 9/10 times
hot heart
Okay idk about 9/10 times
But yeah
Most owl teams are better than contenders teams
Even at their worst sometimes
Wair
If EM were in the league
They'd be decent
blissful heron
i might give you that s1 stage1 dragons would be defeated by atl academy
hot heart
Before sp9r1ke and doha were yoinked ofc
blissful heron
i'd give EM a 5-23 record in owl
blissful heron
i take that back
hot heart
Id put them a bit higher
blissful heron
3-25
blissful heron
a victory against london, one against LAV, an upset against a midtier team
hot heart
Id go with 8-20
blissful heron
tbf atlanta academy could go 5-5 with shanghai freefeel era probably
bro boston went 8-20
blissful heron
and they were a good team on paper
hot heart
On paper doesnt really matter
blissful heron
s2 boston hadn't peaked stage 1
blissful heron
boston in full form could have gone 19-9 ez
blissful heron
i can only dream...
hot heart
I don't see anything in bostons future
The franchise has failed
And there's coming back
blissful heron
EM adding hagopeun is pretty good
blissful heron
no
hot heart
hot heart
But yeah
blissful heron
he's a good player tho
hot heart
How old is hagopeun?
blissful heron
bro coolmatt popped s1 at 29
hot heart
I didnt follow them
So i wouldnt know
But Houston was just below average last year
Now
blissful heron
also o2 blast as itstands could make a run in owl
hot heart
I think theyll do good
Im just starting to watch them
I think theyre good
But idk much about 'em
blissful heron
let me assure you, koreans do not equal wins. they are more determined to win across the board, but watch out for rapel, he may not start over rawkus
blissful heron
meko has 1 competitor, and i don't see much in spree
blissful heron
rawkus might be playing again
hot heart
Yeah
blissful heron
coolmatt admitedly didn't want to play anymore
hot heart
Sharing play time with rapel
blissful heron
but when he had it he was the carry
hot heart
His dva was really good
tropic herald
Was
blissful heron
it was crazy
hot heart
Was
blissful heron
he didn't sit right in goats, but 222 was a fresh chance for him
hot heart
Yeah
tropic herald
He’s washed on stage but I think he’d be a good coach
blissful heron
he could have brought it back, all i'm saying
hot heart
30
blissful heron
spree might turn it around. i argue if spree and rawkus outperform their korean counterparts, the third might not start at all
tropic herald
At 30
tropic herald
You really aren’t in your prime anymore
blissful heron
fair
tropic herald
Especially in esports
blissful heron
meko might not sit right in this roster.
blissful heron
spree might see starting security at risk and grind
tropic herald
I got a gut feeling
blissful heron
spree might have had the fire lit under his ass essentially
tropic herald
And I haven’t seen Meko play Zarya ever
blissful heron
it's a sigma meta
tropic herald
It is
blissful heron
and if he learned sigma he's fine
tropic herald
Meko sigma wasn’t to shabby
blissful heron
because that's the meta
hot heart
And you expect him to be better than MekO?
balmy wolf
meko was considered one of the top 5 sigmas in the league if i remember correctly
tropic herald
Idk
We had sigma for such a short time
So ranking players on that is a little unfair
I’d love Harb in OWL
But he’s 26 so he’s not getting scouted
hot heart
Yeah shock are probably winning
@austere quest
But this season
Id say they barely win
well not barely
But like
They wont stomp the competition
trim shadow
Harb is 26 holy fuck
trim shadow
1 over the shelf life of a pro gamer
trail lodge
@blissful heron Bruh
are you stupid
EM would clap worse shanghai dragons every day
they were barely even a T2 team
trim shadow
trail lodge
and I would say the best Tier 2 teams are better then the worst OWL teams in any meta
Theres a reason why those players who were dogshit in OWL struggle to find a way to get back into even tier 2 teams
And holy shit dude
stop going saying people think "Koreans equal wins"
Rawkus was straight up dogshit
in S2
Rapel is better then Rawkus in every from of the way
@karmic grotto Whats a bigger contenders upset?
rare magnet
hmmm
trim shadow
rare magnet
i know its a new hero
trim shadow
hot heart
upper niche
Come on. We all know BlizzCon and OWWC was a huge group job interview for talent across the streaming community.
Seagull was one of those people.
rare magnet
No but it's actually a streetwear collab between OWL and Jeff Staple and that is a pigeon
hot heart
Cool
sullen berry
Interesting cutout of the OW League logo
jagged crater
believe in the birdy
jagged crater
Seagull said before he didn't want to be an analyst so iunno
jagged crater
There you go
raw ermine
Who is know for pigeons then?
trim shadow
L u l
stable quarry
Hey uh I’m an ok player, and it’s been a dream of mine to be in the London spitfire, and I’ve been training for about a year or two now, and obviously I’ll keep training until I know I’m worthy, but the first question to pop up in my mind is how EXACTLY to join them? I know they have a full roster already, and I’m guessing it changes every year, but I kind of need to know how exactly to be accepted if I ever have the guts to apply, so just need some info for the future, thanks (hopefully this is the right channel)
hot heart
It isnt
But
Who cares
I dont even know
You have to go through path to pro
And even then
You ain't getting picked up by an OWL team
But eh
@stable quarry
stable quarry
Aight thanks for the info
cloud latch
sometimes teams have open tryouts probably like 4600+ sr
sullen berry
They have done
select few have opened themselves to player applications for a small window
I tried looking for the tweet from a couple teams who were asking for players interested for the middle of the pack teams
cloud latch
I think seoul did it once
mint flower
so thats probs the whole pigeon thing
trim shadow
Twitter
mint flower
yeah shits been going downhill since nanzer left
trim shadow
You dont walk upto monte and say hey can you take a 30% pay cut
And expect him to be cool
karmic grotto
I'm not sure what direction owl team wants to go
But this need to stop
If they don't have financial resources, they should have not done it in the first place
All the fault because this esports thing was forced
Apex was not forced but was a collaboration with sponsors, peak competitive overwatch, as team
not franchise
trim shadow
Blizzard seems to be imploding 
trim shadow
Owl on full life support
hot heart
trim shadow
Nate come back and save owl
celest spear
sand violet
My hope is that even if OWL dies collegiate stays alive
Or if OWL hard dies that smaller leagues and tournaments worth more pop up
karmic grotto
MY hope is
@sand violet yes
wanted to say tha
back to what it was again
good old competitive teams tournament
sand violet
My biggest hope is still collegiate because that provides good opportunities for players, whether it's still in the game or irl
It is far and away the best opportunity for anyone who isn't highly looked at for OWL
tropic herald
GOATS brig Pog
gentle kettle
What are the general meta teamcomps atm? Cause I'm hearing everything from double sniper to brawl with rein/zarya/reaper/mei
gentle kettle
Didn't change too much, just mean in general rn
celest spear
I'd imagine that Orisa is a lot worse with the fortify nerf
Mei felt awful to play on the ptr
gentle kettle
What maps/situations is rein/zarya better than orisa sigma?
celest spear
Again, I can't tell what's meta right now. But I'd imagine more flat maps, like King's Row
gentle kettle
Why are they better on flat maps?
I get why winston is better on vertical maps cause he has vertical movement but sigma orisa don't
celest spear
Sigma Orisa (for the most part) was good mainly dude to barrier health, how busted Sigma was at launch, and how good Orisa was in a post GOATS world (as she got quite a few good ones during that period). Flatter maps like King's Row and Lijang Garden/Control Center, and Eichewalde last, were usually popular deathball spots (even during dive) mainly due to a lack of high ground and verticality that could be used by both teams.
gentle kettle
Aight thanks!
cloud latch
that goats skin is actually pog
mint flower
do league tokens reset at the beginning of the season?
sullen berry
nope
you purchased/earned whatever tokens you have
rip old school valiant/mayhem skins
mint flower
oh thank god, someone told me they reset at the beginning of the season or some shit
sullen berry
shock won't be forgotten
mint flower
so only the OG skins are gone
tropic herald
Shock looks like orange replaced red in Toronto now
feral wing
meh
i didnt check all the skins but from what i saw
toronto has a lot more black on their skins
meanwhile the shock skins have more grey accents
mint flower
Toronto's genji skin looks dope
feral wing
i honestly prefer the new shock genji skin
tropic herald
Mayhem Doom though 😳
mint flower
Haven't checked it out yet tbh
tropic herald
mint flower
I've only a few of the new shock skins
celest spear
Twitter
raw ermine
rlly?
mint flower
Nah valiant
worn falcon
Nah London
sullen berry
Nah Guangzhou
cloud latch
nah dallas
hidden vault
Is johngalt supposed to be a meme?
solemn shell
grand silo
trim shadow
WhT performance bazzi was meh at best
cold pier
just from that list league doubles the hours of OWL and then some
trim shadow
If it was leauge as a whole it wouldnt be close tbf
wary falcon
where i can watch korean contenders?
gaunt acorn
@wary falcon it's not being streamed
since right now it's in the seeding phase
when the season actually begins, it will be streamed on https://www.twitch.tv/overwatchcontenders
wary falcon
can't believe match between o2 and gen.g is not streamed
trail lodge
@cold pier and?
All your saying there is that
LOL esports has more viewers then OWL
That still means OWL gets more viewers then other big esports like CSGO and Dota 2
And that graphic dosent count for OWWC as well
balmy wolf
am i the only one who doesn’t mind ppl like semmler doa and monte leaving in exchange for people who could do better jobs and love the game still
trim shadow
You cant rlly
Replace monte doa and semmler
And expect the quality to stay the same
And expect post shoes to be decent after malik and pucket left
balmy wolf
That's a lot of energy and hype and charm just outright gone
trim shadow
Losing those 5 almost plummets marketability
balmy wolf
and while I like ZP's commentary and energy
I do not like lookin at him when compared to say literally any of the other casters
trim shadow
The only outright personality on the team now is sidedhow and bren
balmy wolf
ZP knows what to say but if you're trying to drag esports out of the realm of nerdy dudes who don't look good; you need fashionable and high energy people.
It's often why in Atlanta you wanna see Babybay stepping up
or why on houston Jake or Rawkus taking the plate
balmy wolf
and while that's not bad
you need the people who can explain it to the normie's in a fast, entertaining, and understandable fashion
who are also not too bad on the eyes
trim shadow
You also need hype which is what doa had
trim shadow
So far only sideshow bren zp and jake are the new additions to casting
And uber is hinting at something big like maybe leaving
If uber leaves its over
balmy wolf
now that the OWL is like going international games and such; I imagine most viewership in the west would kinda plummet more meaning maybe they wanna pull away from that a bit? It's not like before where all the games were set at a standard time
balmy wolf
yea thought so
trim shadow
Semm got bored and left
But everyone else was asked to take pay cuts because there was more time between games
But if theres more time then wouldnt that mean production would have togo up in quality
And we still dont have information on how the desk and casting will work
Cause theres a week where we are in philly for the afternoon
Then at night were in guangzhou
Or in the morning
balmy wolf
I imagine it'll be more focused on the individual countries where they'll put the most focus than say putting more effort into the US if it's a korean game
like when it's US then the US is gonna go hard but when it gets to korea; then they're gonna downgrade the quality cause they know most ppl probs arent gonna be watching
trim shadow
The thing is chineese and korean folk will definitely shell out for the games
It might be a scenario where the english stream will have low numbers
But the korean and chineese will have relativetly high numbers
trim shadow
For there own games
There will be alot of us prescence for us teams
And less korean/chineese
But more korean chineese for there own games
Cause no american wants to get up at 4 am to watch postshow and then at 5 am the games start and wont end up until maybe 8 am
balmy wolf
from a money stance I get why it makes sense but for US audiences I expect a lower quality of entertainment from watching said games with the casters we have now
I expect relatively same level of high performance from the players
but just smh for the game as a whole
balmy wolf
I meant shock and atlanta
valiant, florida, houston, dallas
and boston
expecting mediocre plays at best
trim shadow
Boston homestands are gonna be shite
balmy wolf
without a doubt
trail lodge
Sem leaving
good
worst caster
Pukket leaving
eh idc I always tuned out when it was the desk
Monte Doa actually hurts but if they didnt like the game they didnt like it and it gives way for casters who actually like the game (Zp and Jake) a chance in OWL that they deserve
balmy wolf
I'll miss Monte's fashion sense
whole rain
hi
balmy wolf
and am definitely not a fan of ZP's appearance in general.
trim shadow
I still don’t understand why everyone hates semm
But everyone loved semm when he casted csgo
slow walrus
ZP has not yet been shown under the full force of OWL hair and makeup. I imagine he'll look a little bit less scuffed afterwards, but if the guy likes how he looks, we shouldn't be telling him to change 🙂
sullen berry
He really shouldn't have ZP go clean shaven unless it's for some really dank memes like impersonating semmler
balmy wolf
You make like ZP but if you're trying to branch to a more mainstream market then you're going to need to look good and professional. It's like how when Jake was temporarily casting that one time and his suit was very noticeably too big on him. He did a fine job casting but that physical appearance matters.
sullen berry
I know, all that effort when you get maybe 10 minutes on screen time during the presentation of each map is not that surprising
hidden vault
Old news lol
idle beacon
i am checking liqui just now
wondering if vanc will be able playing with fissure
lol
and what about bumber? did he call it a day or why did he retire?
or something like that
hidden vault
He was booted
I assume van would do somewhat well with fissure since their playstyles are both agressive
Of course notwithstanding other factors
idle beacon
with booted you mean voted out?
hot heart
balmy wolf
Yea I don't see that ending well
I really don't think Fissure has changed at all
He just thirsts for the attention and spotlight again
trim shadow
But the fact he signed a contract stating he cant leave until his contract is up
Tells me he might have changed
balmy wolf
Signing a contract and actual growth are two different things. I'll believe it when I see it.
balmy wolf
Bright side
most of vancouver doesn't really have to change their playstyle
hyper aggressive maintank?
they're beyond used to that
limber pine
Vancouver gets a similarly aggressive Reinhardt with a possibly well rounded tank pool
on paper, it's a net positive
hot heart
But what if the guy breaks
Wait
Nvm
I dont think he'll break that fast
Maybe 1 stage
Thats enough to sign someone else
Wait no more stages e
Uhh
Idk
cloud latch
is fissure gonna shotcall for the titans?
karmic grotto
Why do you assume a player has a problem for life?
hot heart
I don't
I think he's gotten better
But
If he hasnt
And its still there
Its a matter of tine
*time
Before he breaks
hot heart
Yeah i guess thats true
I just hope he doesnt
And he has fun
And pops the fuck off
raw ermine
How good is fissure at orisa
hot heart
Idk
celest spear
His Orisa is pretty good
cloud latch
trim shadow
See sideshow no
You cant say that
And look at valiant and london and say theyre off season was better
raw ermine
Shanghai 4th lmao
jagged crater
what does good orisa mean
glass frigate
Looks like this update that brought the event also changed some OWL teams colors and skins. So...
Florida Mayhem (2018-19 was Red and yellow) now is pink and blue.
LA Valiant (2018-19 was gold and olive green) now is blue and yellow.
SF SHOCK (2018-19 was orange white and gold) now is white black and orange
Weird thing is if you bought the 2018 skins you get to keep those. But if not then it will be skins you will never be able to get. just something I saw that was interesting
limber pine
Do you get to keep old sports jersey that you never buy?
glass frigate
@limber pine hmm. Idk 
feral wing
i agree with reinforce, they (plat chat) need to swap fusion and shanghai
balmy wolf
Idk dragons roster is stack expected for the MT position
but Moon even with his fuckups with LA, hes still a good coach
Unless fusions new HC is actually decent this time
jagged crater
swap for what?
balmy wolf
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