As soon as they traded space kariv and agilities i knew they were fucked
#esports-discussion
hot heart
trim shadow
As soon as custa retired for casting that was basically closing the casket on valiants 2020
sullen berry
Unsure if they have announced if he gets re-signed
trim shadow
Theyre dps core is gonna be shax ksf ksp and apply
sullen berry
But if they know his worth they will sell him
hot heart
Thats fine
trim shadow
Well liquidpedia still has em up there
hot heart
Shax is a good sombra from what i remember
sullen berry
"know his worth" is the fun part
trim shadow
But the dps will be the only light in the darkness for valiant
trim shadow
Because there tank lines are contenders level
Hence dream possibly gig Mcgravy then you have lastro and someother guy i dont know about
sullen berry
I want to see trill really play for Dallas this year
hot heart
trim shadow
Honestly the only time valiant gets a win is at home
hot heart
Trill
trim shadow
And even then theyll have to fight for it
sullen berry
Have you seen gamsu play rein
sullen berry
Trill would be the ideal ball and rein maker, it's just lost potential at this rate
trim shadow
Gamsus rein is
hot heart
Okay
trim shadow
Ok
trim shadow
He isnt flashy like bumper or muma
sullen berry
Gamsu's ball is better, I'm not saying I would delete the entire point of adding gamsu to the fuel
trim shadow
But hes a very team based rein
hot heart
Hes a leader
trim shadow
Gamsu’s ball is probably close to amengs ball
hot heart
Dallas need that desperately
sullen berry
He has amazing syngery in whatever team he slots into
hot heart
Wait
trim shadow
But aero is still the head coach
trim shadow
And then theyre division is 8 hours away from em in california
hot heart
Im not even convinced he's gonna do any good ever on any team
sullen berry
Then give the helm to Jayne 😏
hot heart
Jayne
Is better than aero imo
But i dont know alot about coaches
So i might be wrong there
sullen berry
I just laughed at how aero just had a good run with Fusion Uni and joins Dallas as soon as Mickie got good at playing a hero
hot heart
Yeah
sullen berry
He's the most transparent of the current coaches in tje league
hot heart
True
sullen berry
Oftentimes it's because his hands are tied with the decision making process
trim shadow
For me going 1-13 after ur homestand shows me alot about aero
Dallas wouldve made playoffs if they showed up in stage 3
sullen berry
Hopefully it narrows down how much control who has in Fuel's org since KyKy's attempt at being called a competent coach
pearl stratus
You can't coach a team where you're not allowed to make decisions.
Which is the problem with reddit people, not understanding basic issues.
When hastr0 gives you no control for 3/4 of the year, you're not a head coach.
You're an assistant with a fancy title.
trim shadow
Looking at dallas it just looks kike
Like*
Gamsu will run the team
Aero will just say fix this fix that and spectate
Like he usually looks like hes doing in the videos
balmy wolf
I expect decay to be an average dps
Who has the chance to become super star level
He came into season 2 hyped as the next jjonak of dps, but roar and decay never even touch that level of super star play
hot heart
trim shadow
Decay will stagnate
sullen berry
@pearl stratus my problem with the reddit charade is having a figurehead like hastro, anybody to blame the poor performance of custa on zen and harryhook on mercy
balmy wolf
Well hes more open about it then most owners
trim shadow
Which is good and bad
balmy wolf
I mean hes not spending because he just wants to dump money
All the owners who bought into the league are expecting a profit back 1 day
trim shadow
But a profit wont come till 2021 with revenue sharing and what not
And im damn sure Cod leauge wont have a profit either
balmy wolf
Who knows
Franchised leagues are popping up in the most popular esport games or already exist
trim shadow
Well technically lol was the first todo it
And there kinda going strong
There kinda peeking again as of the lasy 6-7 splits
I honestly think if leauge adopted a city based leauge it would sky rocket its popularity
Like 6-8 cities per region in each of the 4 major regions
Europe Americas China korea
balmy wolf
Lol is already the most popular esport in the world
trim shadow
I know but imagine what riot could do with a city based leauge
And then they can have a g leauge with the orgs sister teams under them
Almost like contenders but itll be like how the current splits works
balmy wolf
riot seems to prefer just a league that isnt city based
trim shadow
I would say its more along the lines they never thought about it
And probably still arent
balmy wolf
Well their pulling millions in money
and their worlds tournament was also pretty insane
trim shadow
Worlds is probably
the best concept of a tournament to this date
And leauge did adopt a city based leauge it would be even nuttier due to all the fans pride in their nations and cities
balmy wolf
worlds has been boring for 3 years dont @ me
grand finals have been a 3-0 for 3 years now
and you said 4 major regions..
more like 3..
Americas is borderline wildcard region now
they're rlly rlly bad
trim shadow
Worlds up until playoffs have been quite fun
the americas are still apart of the big 4
tropic herald
trim shadow
Yo wtf
sullen berry
Who is this
trim shadow
Yxl from chengdu
sullen berry
Are we talking chengdu yxl
trim shadow
Or former of chengdu
sullen berry
... From ottawa
tropic herald
I just saw yangxiao lol
sullen berry
Why is peak following this guy and not this one?
Take a look at YangXiaoLong (@YangXiaoLong_OW): https://twitter.com/YangXiaoLong_OW?s=09
Twitter
I've seen too many people trip up
But there's more than one person who can love the name and the character
cough
sullen berry
It's on point
mint flower
Twitter
hot heart
Boi
supple prism
how the hell did Mayhem somehow pick even worse colors?
late kite
colourblind
karmic grotto
I like the purple color more than the yellow one
hidden vault
Yeah the "new" colours are better
Assume they are true
I do hope that one team in the future would use the colour yellow to it's potential
balmy wolf
raw ermine
ooh
karmic grotto
Each day we get closer to OWL season 3.
hot heart
And Every 60 seconds a minute passes in africa
karmic grotto
37 days to go
Paris Eternal vs Toronto Defiant
This will be a match to see how the new players and teams will perform
Same day London Spitfire plays
That match will decide if they will smash or not
Not high hopes for it but they can come out great
tropic herald
First time we get a championship rematch is week 15, May 17
Then another week 21, June 28
It’s kind of funny though because they go to almost every home stand together
raw ermine
I'm just watching old stage 4 matches to pass the time
hot heart
Sounds cozy
hot heart
Yeah
I mean
Honestly i just wanna see Toronto roll paris
They dont have sp9rk1e
Dont they have hanbin
They don't
Like 4 games later they do i think
trim shadow
Theyll have hanbin after the first week i believe
hot heart
Nice
trim shadow
February 20tj so like the first 3 weeks
trim shadow
Which is different then waiting half the season for sparkle
trim shadow
Honestly paris if u wanted a mt that was korean ya still had tizi
hot heart
Paris are gonna suffer for a week straight
True
And they have the money
Tizi
Is perfect
hidden vault
nosmite is great
hidden vault
still better than benbest
but honestly if I was paris I would have gotten Takoyaki
or Alpha who ever is the better one
trim shadow
I don’t understand why alpha wasnt picked up
hot heart
Ive heard od takoyaki
trim shadow
Alpha was on em with sparkle
trim shadow
He was the mt with hanbin
balmy wolf
@karmic grotto Its spitfire vs NYXL - it wont show much
limber pine
tropic herald
Houston really is just the bois
short sparrow
Depending on the meta Danteh might play or linkzr
But yes
And honestly
It doesn't sound too bad
Jecse is supposed to be very vocal as well
Wonder how vocal he is in English though...
limber pine
if things stay hanzo/Mei it'll be blase/hydration
pearl stratus
He's above average, and takes a leadership role which is Houstons biggest lack right now.
Their best, current, IGL is probably their least effective DPS.
So this gives them a secondary option, provided the language issues get resolved.
I still don't expect them to go above 12th.
None of their Koreans have been on mixed teams before.
tropic herald
They aren’t going to be good but they aren’t shit
limber pine
hence the not above 12th comment
tropic herald
Ye
pearl stratus
I also expect them to backtrack after flailing a bit in the first quarter fo the season.
And we'll see Rawkus replace Rapel, even though Rapel is a higher quality player.
But they'll want the vocal leader.
Which Rawkus shared with Jake.
And that'll screw them over too.
If -however- we see Coolmatt/Spree get dropped/removed and they pick up a back up/side Korean Main tank
That'd actually be their largest single improvement.
This isn't Goats anymore, DPS doesn't need a brain.
tropic herald
They haven’t dropped Matt or Spree yet??
pearl stratus
They're most likely still under contract
So it becomes a matter of how/why.
Dallas did the same thing with contract renewals early.
tropic herald
Matt is washed and spree isn’t to far from that either
pearl stratus
You need a not shit main tank though if you're going to go Korean.
So Bumper is off the list.
You go for a Tizi
limber pine
Vancouver South
karmic grotto
?
pearl stratus
he's saying that Houston is lots of ex-Vancouver, and the addition of Tizi would kind of cement it.
Hence, Vancouver South.
limber pine
plus Harsha
pearl stratus
Harsha, hooreg, Rapel, Tizi at that point.
Kaiser wouldn't be a bad pick up, but he's never impressed me to the level I'd want on non-Rein tanks.
However Kaiser does have mixed team experience.
Which would be great.
Ideally the tank you'd want in this situation is the one Dallas stole.
Papa Gamsu.
pearl stratus
Dallas pays, and if rumor is correct they offered him over 200k.
pearl stratus
It's a risk reward thing in my brain.
I've gone to a dumpster fire location before and fixed it.
And it got me a giant raise in the following year.
tropic herald
Then again Gamsu is really old for esports standards
So he probably cares less about titles and what not
raw ermine
ayy they did get jecse
was this leaked?
or are sideshow, custa, and reinforce 10k IQ
this is interesting
karmic grotto
xqc lmao
jagged crater
no surprise to see popular streamers
and the MVPs
mendo's been kinda irrelevant in OW for a while surprised to still see him
balmy wolf
oh
already sent
oops
@limber pine not Hydration Blase
they have same hero pool
and who is gonna lead?
Muma wont
Hydration is quiet
Linkzr wont
Danteh or Blase?
tropic herald
Jecse
short sparrow
jecse once he knows english
also
Is it just me who thinks double projectile is gonna be a big thing?
I think Hydration + Blase might actually be a starting duo for them
you cant have hydration on hanzo and mei simultaneously
tropic herald
Well hitscan hasn’t been relevant for a fat second
karmic grotto
Hawk is savage on twitter
raw ermine
double projectile is likely, unless a meta shift happens
celest spear
Valiant's DPS is the only thing that's noteworthy
The rest are kinda bad (except Flex support)
celest spear
Paintbrush is on Gladiators and plays Main support
celest spear
Valiant's flex supports are Lastro and Slur
tropic herald
I got them all mixed up
raw ermine
"If you put a gun to my head, and asked me to name the LA valiant 2020 roster... tell my family I love them"
trim shadow
tropic herald
Expecting me to know the roster of #19
balmy wolf
next thing u know their actually half decent
trim shadow
Ha yeet
tropic herald
Funny, laughed
celest spear
KSF, Apply, Shax, GiG (leaked by Halo), Dreamer, McGravy, RaiN, Lastro and Slur
trim shadow
Theres a korean who played for a australian team
A korean from a failed team
Mcgravy and apply have been team@bouncing
So no one knows there potential
Shax is sometimes consistent
Ksf is irrelevant
balmy wolf
u mean that one AUS team that won contenders 3 times in a row
balmy wolf
I believe packing 10 will make good work of this team, just like he did with the turnaround last season
celest spear
GiG is from Chicken Contendies and XL2, where he casually fed his brains out in every game
Slur is from Samsung Morning Stars Black and Lastro is from Skyfoxes
GiG was not the move imo. I can guarantee that there were better MTs on the market than him.
trim shadow
Like cloneman
celest spear
KSF, Shax, Apply and McGravy are solid.
Lastro is good if Ana becomes meta, Slur if Zen is meta. I haven't seen either of them play Moira.
Dreamer has reportedly been struggling in scrims.
I don't have too much of RaiN to go off of besides Mayhem and the very few O2 Blast games I saw with him in it.
tropic herald
The fact he got dropped over Kris might be a sign for something
upper niche
Yeah, I could not name a single person on LAV.
Though that's true of most teams TBH. Even before all the moves.
I don't really follow individual players too much - it's a team sport.
balmy wolf
U know platchat is filmed in 1 go and then split into different videos
since they aint streaming it
hot heart
I know none of these people
karmic grotto
It's their academy
celest spear
^
The main O2 Blast roster is: https://twitter.com/O2Blast_OW/status/1211932094781251585
hidden vault
soo neko and yakpung went from toronto to o2
blissful heron
Kalios😳😳😳
blissful heron
@analog lark damn bro that's funny
analog lark
Wha?
blissful heron
I was watching geguri's stream and she heard about o2s roster
Someone said who tf is kalios and I wrote "Boston's s1 left benchwarmer"
tropic herald
#BringTheMayhem
celest spear
Not just that, but back in 2018 r2der told Zappis that he could try out for his spot on Mayhem 2019 after the World Cup, but when Zappis was gone in Incheon, r2der kicked him.
pearl stratus
Ruined by meta and financial situation =
Completed a bachelors law degree and has a law internship and won't be available for the timing required
I wish I could have angst and illiteracy.
That damn Zappis.
Wanting to get a Masters degree in law.
God next thing you know he'll be like ML7
jagged crater
zappis is 30 woah
tropic herald
He’s an esports fossil
jagged crater
yay he is my age 🙂
tropic herald
Hi fossil
jagged crater
Not to say 30 year olds arent capable
but very unlikely scouts would pick them up
age might be another reason harb is not getting picked up
jagged crater
jehong is the oldest player in OWL right?
he joined when he 26
but that was 1st season
tropic herald
HarryHook Ryu and Fragi are the oldest
raw ermine
I thought it was coolmatt
jagged crater
nowadays scouts are more likely to go for young bloods, top contenders players from korea
tropic herald
All being 28
jagged crater
yea but will he play at all
jagged crater
coolmatt ma boi
jagged crater
only 30 dont worry bout it
jagged crater
contract?
tropic herald
They should move him over to coach maybe
jagged crater
who's the oldest player most likely to start?
tropic herald
Then again Chara is team captain iirc
jagged crater
super is team captain for shock and he didnt play stage 4 +
dont know if it means much
tropic herald
Nice
jagged crater
prob team dependent
trim shadow
Coolmatt is like
Way past his gamer shelf life
By 26-27 ur sense get dulled heavily
jagged crater
not tru
trim shadow
And 30 its about gone
The gamer shelf life is usually 13-25 before u reaction times and what not start to waver
But thats for intense esports
Like csgo overwatch halo etc
Leauge
jagged crater
dont think there's any proof your reactions actually go down at all at 30
it really depends on other things, not necessarily just age
less reactions, more on motivation
when you'r young and unaccomplished, you have tons of things to prove
and time as well
trim shadow
Theres a shit ton of scientific evidence that shows as someone ages there reaction times go down
Unless they exercise heavily
jagged crater
young players tend to have more time, less adult life matters to deal with
trim shadow
And this isnt just for games
Plus with how much blue light us gamers expose ourself to it speeds up the process
Nd then theres working 8-10 hours in front of blue light
celest spear
short sparrow
celest spear
Both Mayhem 1.0 off tanks gone 
jagged crater
#bringthemayhem
jagged crater
nah manneten only 22
tropic herald
Oh
pearl stratus
Minus Tviq who washed pretty quickly none of the original Florida squad should have been in the OWL.
Logix I don't count since he proved himself other places.
jagged crater
rehire tviq as bus driver
pearl stratus
They were the the EU version of Shanghai.
pearl stratus
Some are, some aren't. Some are just sitting in contenders.
jagged crater
i dont even know how even have motivation to play the game anymore if you go 0-40
while practicing 10+ hours a day
that's just mental suicide
which reminds me, which player went thru the most actual match or map losses?
pearl stratus
Ado.
jagged crater
geguri joined mid-season
pearl stratus
Ado has the longest loss streak in OWL.
jagged crater
ado joined mid-season too, but he went thru first 3 poor stages of justice
and he didnt play justice's only good stage
now imagine ado, going 0-25 on shanghai, then forced to play brig while losing almost every game on justice
Ado been thru some shit
I praise this man for his mental fortitude
celest spear
He was last seen trialing for Runaway. He didn't get in seeing as Fl0w3r is on the team now.
jagged crater
flow3r power
mint flower
I thought Diya had the longest consecutive loss streak in owl
celest spear
Unlike Ado, Diya has never won a single match
pearl stratus
Ado technically never has either.
celest spear
They drew that map
Dragons attacked first and got full held, Outlaws got full held on their attack
pearl stratus
Yeah but he played in a match in the game, and still won. Draw or not.
So he does, technically, have a win.
Also
His team actually kept him.
Point for Diya.
Twice.
😛
mint flower
Poor ado
pearl stratus
I also don't put any blame of S1 on Diya.
Diya honestly worked harder than anyone on that team.
mint flower
Won like 1 match out of 16 he played in
pearl stratus
Route 66 Diya vs. Pine is still a highlight in my mind.
Because Diya forced Pine off Widow, and it was fun.
jagged crater
Carryhook
pearl stratus
So that question will have to wait till monday when the teachers are back.
verbal roost
You'd make a really great commentator really 😮
mint flower
What's the point of the muted role of it doesn't actually mute them...
tropic herald
It mutes you
jagged crater
what did he do this time?
chilly pine
I’m gonna was a fun day until the last episode was fun but it didn’t make it so fun I just went back and went to play the whole time I was going on my way home 🏠
hidden vault
Twitter
hidden vault
Nth just a fun fact from flame?
fleet thunder
A me hi
hot heart
raw ermine
I had a dream Moxy and XQC got signed as streamers for the Dallas fuel or something
karmic grotto
??
karmic grotto
lol
raw ermine
lmao
trim shadow
@karmic grotto fran and danteh are dating i believe
tropic herald
They are
karmic grotto
Wasn't danteh dating someone else?
hot heart
ForcenCD Two timer
tropic herald
6’8” gaming powerhouse
hidden vault
who was he dating lolz
celest spear
We're 5 weeks away until OWL
celest spear
ornate junco
Seoul Dynasty is best team
little silo
at what time does the Mayhem tournament start?
hot heart
@ornate junco why?
hot heart
Seoul is like top 10
tropic herald
I can name at least 6 teams that are for sure better than them
And then more that might
sullen berry
against Seoul?
they are just retooling this season to maintain their middling performance
on paper there are many teams above them lately
tropic herald
Ye
sullen berry
can't buy into some of the hype in some of the teams though
Reign is one I measure with a grain of salt
tropic herald
Reign looks like a top 4 imo
Just missing a back up for Dog
Other than ATL do you think any other teams are overhyped?
ornate junco
I don’t even watch other teams so I wouldn’t know. Should I watch other teams or naw
sullen berry
@ornate junco I'm of the type to watch a majority of the teams - not like "rewatch every washington justice match"
pick two or three teams that would interest you, personally it was a good year to be a vancouver or a shanghai fan
sullen berry
LMAO
ornate junco
I have Seoul dynasty shirt. I only watch other teams if they go against Seoul
ornate junco
Wait?!? When does the new season start of OWL
sullen berry
5 weeks
mint flower
Scared the shit outta me for a sec cuz I love bren and sideshow
ornate junco
Me?
ornate junco
How do I rewatch them
tropic herald
They are vv good
sullen berry
Twitch and Youtube
tropic herald
There should be VODs in OWL twitch
sullen berry
link to the twitch in the description of this channel
ornate junco
Ok
sullen berry
⏳
tropic herald
That’s going to be interesting
sullen berry
do you see why this is awesome
ornate junco
I used to play comp on Xbox. Sold my overwatch to get a switch. But now I have it on pic but I ain’t level 25 yet
tropic herald
Better than semmhex
sullen berry
in terms of accessibility, semmhex would be rock bottom
tropic herald
Semmler is dry
sullen berry
hopefully less so coming into 2020, I want something to improve when hex can do a formiddable job
Semmler's delivery sounds like he has a hard time keeping up during intense teamfights
so I don't even go back to the play-in match and the dozen GZC games they casted together
raw ermine
Wait is the bren and sideshow casting thing a jebait or real?
tropic herald
Real
sullen berry
Very real
raw ermine
Yay
sullen berry
he posted seconds after he said he's moving on from the desk
raw ermine
This will be fun
sullen berry
Desk going to look like Malik, Custa, Soe, and whichever caster is left over or in town
raw ermine
Is doa confirmed gone or is he still in contracting?
dreamy tangle
Well we're going to see bren hit sideshow live
dreamy tangle
Yeah r really funny together
ornate junco
Whoa
sullen berry
Desk going to look like Malik, Custa, Soe, and whichever caster is left over or in town
ornate junco
There buddy
sullen berry
it seems fine
ornate junco
Atlanta
tropic herald
The desk PepeHands
sullen berry
interview gang are there for interviews
so too early to tell
but you have danny who has to be available for korean translation (not sure how that's going to work across two countries during a given week)
trim shadow
Maybe the leauge is hiring more people
tropic herald
They have two Korean translators I thought
sullen berry
if she's that forgetful, tell me how we're going to want her on the desk
tropic herald
Reinforce can desk right?
sullen berry
@tropic herald i remember there was one specifically for Mayhem
Reinforce should be able to, depends on changes to his producer role going global
keep in mind the desks will have to be split in some way
trim shadow
I don’t remember how her name is@spelled
raw ermine
Levar Burton's daughter
trim shadow
That girl ye
trim shadow
Theres soe Emily mica translation Soe malik desk sideshow bren Wolf achillios Semmlemer and maybe doa if he stays
trim shadow
Then the next up is lemonkiwi or Legday
Lemonkiwi and jake already have synergy and they pair like butter on bread
sullen berry
TempoZP sits there in contenders prison
tropic herald
Avast as an OWL caster pog
raw ermine
Analysts: Soe, Malik, Custa
Casters: Jake, Bren, Sideshow, Semmler, wolf, Achillios
Translater/interviewers:Mica, Danny, Emily
sullen berry
pretty much how it looks if we take the setup done during season 2
my assumptions could be wrong and that they never attend these home games
trim shadow
Honestly
With all the korean signings
I could forsee mica trying out the desk
Cause remember soe was a translator as well/interviewer
sullen berry
I only recall an interview with soe after season 1
she mentioned there was a LOT she was expected to do on the desk
hence being moved into the interview role full time
trim shadow
She lowkey carried the desk while sideshow was in visa hell
sullen berry
coupled with mustachio monte for parts of it
mint flower
@raw ermine what about hex?
sullen berry
just missed him, he's still alive
along with Uber and Mr X
but nothing has been announced since I guess a re-signing of their OWL contracts aren't as buzzworthy as a player re-sign
tropic herald
They should totally bring up a Contenders duo
sullen berry
correct
raw ermine
For time zones
sullen berry
I'd love to see AVRL and Pixie make a guest appearance in some fashion during the china route
as unlikely as it may be
the only team closest to OCE are all in china iirc
raw ermine
Puckett and maybe monte will freelance
sullen berry
Goldenboy also
raw ermine
Yeah
sullen berry
monte has announced he's had less interest for OWL Content
sullen berry
I'm guessing based on monte's own words in his discord
he may well be planning something like this as a guest appearance, but not a whole lot more
if creative differences say otherwise on twitter too
trim shadow
Id imagine wolf and achillios will do the brunt of the Atlantic Norths Games
Pacfic north*
Bren and sideshow will cover the Atlantic south
Semm and hex will cover The pacific West?
Then jake and his unknown parterner will do the atlantic nortj
mint flower
Jake with doa possibly?
If doa can't renegotiate a new contract then maybe lemonkiwi
Or zp
jagged crater
is zp getting blackballed
sharp mural
When is OWL?
worn cedar
sharp mural
Long time Lmao
celest spear
5 weeks to be exact
First 4 games are:
Paris vs Toronto
NYXL vs London
Titans vs Gladiators
Fuel vs Valiant
trim shadow
All in new york i believe
celest spear
Not entirely
there will be two homestands going on every week. So the first two/three games every day will be in one place while the last few games will be in another. For example, the first two games listed above are in New York, but the last two are in Dallas
tropic herald
All the Chinese and Korean games are at awkward times for NA, feelsEUman
trim shadow
The first week will be for me at least yea 1:00 pm and 3:00 pm for the new york games then itll be about 5:00 pm and 7:00 pm for the dallas games
trim shadow
Next week in shanghai will be about 7 in the morning for me i think?
Im in est
Same time zone as philly and new york
Its 8:22 am in shanghai right now
trim shadow
The games would be at 5:am then?
celest spear
Also in EST, Chinese and Korean games are gonna suck
tropic herald
Ahh it’s Singapore that’s 12 ahead
trim shadow
celest spear
Akshon Esports might get lots of subs in the subs off of it though
trim shadow
From my phone clock
tropic herald
trim shadow
Hard to read but alright
balmy wolf
Bren is gone 🥺
tropic herald
No
balmy wolf
yes
limber pine
He’s gonna be a caster
sharp mural
Yeah I heard they were changing the times to be less NA like.
trim shadow
Well i mean they are switching to a homestand format
tropic herald
They won’t be trash
sharp mural
How do you know?
viral meteor
I want to post on YouTube but it says (18 mins ) it’s to long can any one help pls
hot heart
PogU
sullen berry
YXL is listed as part of Contenders China this year
he'll be part of the casting over there with a few other ex-OWL players
hidden vault
casting? hmmm
hot heart
Thats weird
trim shadow
Yxl casting monkaS
still bluff
Where can I find an explanation of how travel works for the teams in 2020?
still bluff
Oh so all the teams are going to be at that home stand together?
tropic herald
Only the teams that play at the home stand go to it
still bluff
What do the others do?
tropic herald
Go to another home stand or have the week off
still bluff
Oh I see, so there can be multiple homestands happening at the same time?
short sparrow
Yep
trim shadow
The orgs pay for flights I believe
But theres also a 90 day rule where the teams have to provide housing
Before players can attain there own housing
As of now idk any teams with private charters
haughty latch
worn cedar
jagged crater
Hello
hot heart
Hey @jagged crater
hidden vault
endoken still muted 🤔
hidden vault
What is is? 
hot heart
@trim shadow
hidden vault
I can't believe there would be a day where by the reason why endoken get muted
would be the talking point of esports here in overwatch discord
worn cedar
(it probably shouldnt be)
hard mural
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mint flower
yeah these colors are much nicer
little silo
i wonder what the skins look like now
little silo
Very nice
jagged crater
Been a long time coming
jagged crater
Didn't zp and Jake cast together before Avast?
celest spear
Yes, during the 2018 World Cup
karmic grotto
Maybe I become Mayhem fan because of Colors? Same as when Spark came into the league
jagged crater
Good to see zp have some synergy with both former LG evil
trim shadow
Twitter
jagged crater
Monte doa replaced with zp jake
Not a bad replacement
Tho feel like maybe there should be one more duo for international travel sake
celest spear
jagged crater
i want avast as analyst or caster for OWL, but at the same time i love his companion streams
short sparrow
Skins look nicer than the logo imo, but might be too close to spark
little silo
plus black
supple prism
I dont even care much for monte or doa
jagged crater
gimme back mcdonalds colors
worn falcon
raw ermine
They said they will have both available for purchase
karmic grotto
:(
:)
Mayhem, new start, new chance s
And with the players they've obtained
Ready to bast others away
little silo
I wonder what team Tizi and Bdosin will end up on
jagged crater
weird not hearing anything about them
tizi literally played last grand finals
and bdosin known as 2nd best korean flex supp behind jjonak
surely they can join a contenders at least?
so either they retired from OW or they're being scouted against for being veterans (or just plain old not that good)
little silo
i heard rumours of Bdosin joining Seoul but nothing about Tizi
jagged crater
seoul still got 4 more slots, no backup flex, plausible
for #1 destination for koreans, they got the power to nab almost any korean talent they want
raw ermine
Bdosin is second best FS?
idk about that
I rank it
twilight
Jjonak
Viol2t
then maybe Kariv or Bdosin, I guess Bdosin since he beat out Kariv for WC
worn cedar
guess we need new mayhem icons huh
jagged crater
it's a lil closer now
season 1 it was clear jjonak then bdosin
season 2 harder to tell since they played moira most of the time for goats
gaunt acorn
@worn cedar i will shortly
tropic herald
I don’t think Bdosin is 2nd anymore
karmic grotto
Dogman Ana incoming
worn cedar
I was gonna make em if u didnt want to
tbh kinda hate the fact that we left mcdonalds behind
but I hope this means my team does better this season!!
tropic herald
Mayhem is definitely not going to be #20
trim shadow
karmic grotto
Someone is gotta be 20th
As long as the matches are not stomps, being 20th isn't bad as long as you can show performance and gain fans
viral solar
are there any teams with a mercy main?
jagged crater
in OWL no
upper niche
Wait, so the OWL casting team for 2020 is Tempo and Jake, Uber and MrX, Wolf and Achilios, and Bren and Sideshow?? Did I miss anyone?
upper niche
Hex seems to be talking like he's back for 2020 but I haven't seen anything from Semmler other than that he hasn't said he's not in...
So I'm guessing Semmler/Hex is the final pair?
upper niche
Pretty amusing the way Doa got confirmed by OWL as moving on just like 5 days or whatever after posting a 'dont listen to reddit' tweet lol
balmy wolf
@mint flower you really saying LDN bot 3? have u seen paris? they dont have sp9rkle for 16 games
justice havent actually improved much
mayhem only got 2 good players
and resigned saya
london has potential to be top10
nobody knows with them
as they're so unproven
tropic herald
I’d argue that Justice improved
They remade their tank line
Got rid of Gido and Sleepy for AimGod
And added to their talented dps
karmic grotto
Wanna see cracked Corey in the House
sand violet
Washington definitely improved
Better tank line and the price of their HC is no longer a bottle neck for their team
Since before even if they wanted to make big changes they couldn't cause wizard cost too much
leaden blade
Where are the Titans in the rankings rn I haven't been following and too lazy to look it up lol
gaunt acorn
i don't see much reason not to still consider them top 4
gaunt acorn
thanks
sullen berry
Also Titans is guaranteed top 8
Trust me that the competition can change around them during role lock but hey, they’re probably killing it in their own division vs shock
tropic herald
#BringTheMayhem #LightItUp
karmic grotto
raw ermine
W
hot heart
W
mint flower
W
balmy wolf
@sand violet @tropic herald Washington didnt really improve their tank line, they got roar who was average/below average, they got Ellivote and Lullsish (I think that's his name) who were just the best available pickup for goats, they've not had much success in 2-2-2
dawn pasture
Shanghai Dragons
last oar
I watch sleepy stream
hot heart
Me too
last oar
Didn’t he play for shock like as a sub
hot heart
Yeah
last oar
His chill
hot heart
Then justice
last oar
Ya unlaki got replaced by violet
hot heart
Violet is huge tho so its okay
raw ermine
He was 2018's flex support and a game or 2 in 2019
last oar
Ya I like sf
hot heart
If he got replaced by trash id be sad
tropic herald
Kephrii got signed somewhere
hot heart
Whaaaat????
last oar
Kekw
hot heart
WHYYYYY
last oar
How
raw ermine
celest spear
Fuel already have 12, don't they?